American Psycho: Is It Deep or Dumb? - Wisecrack Edition

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American Psycho has been stirring up controversy since the day it hit the theaters. Some see it as a searing indictment of 1980s yuppie culture, while others see it as a depraved celebration of that very lifestyle. So who’s right? Let’s find out in this Wisecrack Edition on American Psycho: Deep or Dumb?
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[@WisecrackEDU]

Hey Folks, you’re not seeing double - we had to re-upload the video because KZbin didn’t like our first cut. Are they Deep or Dumb? ;)

[@jjtomecek1623]

Not so much deep or dumb as they are just out of their minds.

[@reverendfawkes6138]

What was the problem?

[@ahmedadem2227]

They are dense ;)

[@deformemvita]

KZbin content Nazi strikes again!

[@WisecrackEDU]

Ranting Reverend They said we had too much sexual content... To quote Clueless: “As if!”

[@Speleomimus]

If you can't understand the actual depth of this movie, you will never be able to get a reservation at Dorsia

[@Joseph_yy]

Matt McCue but at least you will get a slightly better haircut?

[@tarnishedpose]

@@Joseph_yy It is very cool, Bateman. But that's nothing. *pulls a really nice card out of his wallet* Look at this. Eggshell with Romalian type. Wadaya'think?

[@Anubis-xk4ht]

Ever heard of nihilism it means emptiness this kind of characters don't need development or depth they're plot driven characters this is what you call a flat character arc they don't need development you just watch them go it's not about how they change but how they change the world around you still can make a flat character but still flexible and engaging as long they're done right them perfect examples of this are goku Sherlock Holmes Paddington Tony stark after IM 3 joker Dr Manhattan and blade and hisoka and lex luthor and bale in this movie and Harrison Ford in fugitive yet they still can be interesting characters,there's more depth to characters like superman and spider man and batman and wonder woman and flash and daredevil heck even norse kratos and saitama and guts even ezio those are called round and dynamic characters those characters are deeper because they're more fleshed out and more developed and have growth their characters change throughout the story they learn new things and they have multiple faces mostly they are main characters.it's pretty easy to understand and explain also when learn definition of words it'll be easier to understand your characters even more.

[@jjhassy]

Matt McCue Lol

[@dewfan14]

Matt McCue No one goes there anymore anyways

[@PurpleDingoPress]

I didn't realize this until years later, but.... ...Dorsia is so exclusive, even the audience never gets to see the inside of it.

[@AxleTrade]

It was good visual storytelling. Bateman does manage to get in, at least in the novel. He gets in the place twice, once while on a date with his secretary and the second when his brother was in town.

[@punishedlexi]

Daken-dono the differences between the book and the novel are more like content than thematic but I think having Patrick not be able to get into dorsia in the movie was a very smart move. It changes the whole meaning of Dorsia in the movie it's a symbol of ehat Patrick wishes he could be and it is in the novel too but having it be this unobtanium for him and the audience is kinda genius. Honestly not many movies are as good as the novel but you could honestly make a case for either being better

[@AxleTrade]

@@punishedlexi I wished they put more scenes in from the novel. Would've loved to see the date between Patrick and his ex.

[@jaapl8342]

Would have loved to see the U2 concert scene, and the elevator scene with Tom Cruise

[@mopnem]

Give this person a reward

[@elise1354]

most unrealistic part of the movie was when he took off his facemask in one piece

[@Shad0wsSA]

but it didn't come off in one piece, it broke off in different spots looker closer lmfao

[@adrijasarkar330]

well you know, he is a psychopath..

[@avezan82]

and he pulled it off downwards...I thought you're supposed to peel it off upwards.

[@robdixson196]

If you can't pull your face mask off in one piece how are you ever going to get reservations for Dorsia?

[@andresalvaradolizano3838]

That’s how clean and taken care of his face is

[@paulallen2474]

I’m better than everyone in this comment section..

[@jimmyjohnson8065]

Paul Allen WATCH OUT BEHIND YOU!!

[@jleffel6969]

TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW, YOU STUPID FUCKING BASTARD!!

[@ethanskys857]

Paul Allen do you like Huey Lewis and the news?

[@mozesvanrees8320]

Lets see your comment section

[@tarnishedpose]

Hey Paul!!!

[@AmabossReally]

American Psycho taught me one thing. If you have someone mildly jealous of your business card, run as fast as you can.

[@davidgn40]

Unless you're attracted to him ;)

[@Werewolf914]

That's why my business card uses the Comic Sans font, a basic white background no fancy beige or creme needed. No watermarks either, and the texture is similar to that of Origami paper. The sub par quality of the card means no Patrick's, Paul's, Phil's, Philip's, Patricia's, or anyone will be murdering me over my card.

[@DoughBoy45]

werewolf914 🤔 you’re thinking like Patrick.

[@Werewolf914]

@Diogenes ummm... I have to go return some DVDs to Redbox...

[@JM-tf4nk]

werewolf914 lmao 😂

[@LucilleWagas]

I love how "murders and executions" can absolutely be misheard as "mergers and acquisitions" over loud nightclub music.

[@sibanbgd100]

Anything can be misheard as anything else over loud nightclub music

[@symumalamjholok2307]

I might be wrong but they heard right. Bates just imagined saying it like that but in actuality he said mergers and acquisitions.

[@Twannnng]

I love the way Bateman sits forward after the woman replies "Do you like it?". For a moment he is thinking "Wow, someone actually listened and wants to talk to me about this!", before he realised she just mis-heard him. A great bit of acting from Christian Bale.

[@imnothere202]

Works the other way around too

[@ood26]

@@symumalamjholok2307 That's what I always assumed. When he makes reference to his crimes, or threatens to kill someone, it's just in his head. Except for maybe when he threatens the Asian woman who works at the dry cleaning place.

[@TenderTrap86]

A rarely talked about part of the movie is Patrick's relationship with his secretary, Jean. She is exactly the kind of woman he prefers to murder. Yet, when given the opportunity Patrick decides not to. Jean is the only authentic character in the film. She's plain and chooses to go to Dorsia's because she's probably heard alot of chatter about it, and assumes it must be a great place to get to know somebody better. She doesn't know that the chatter is coming from people who've never been there. Jean is unaware of what reservations at Dorsia's really means to Patrick and his cronies. She really sees Patrick. And in the end, it's Jean, the only genuine person Patrick knows and the only one who truly cares about him, who discovers how sick he really is.

[@Cyborg_1612]

Excellently put

[@Eleventyeleventh]

i hope she quit.

[@amraouza4937]

bro ... sorry to break it to you but the only thing that "stopped" him from killing her is that phone call ... SURE, he gave her a pass but i would say, he just didn't wanna mess the couch and floors unlike Paul Allen !

[@nonchalantcrab3486]

I was thinking the same thing about the gay guy Luis. Apparently in the book Luis gives him recommendations for a fitness trainer and other things, and Patrick actually takes them seriously. It shows that he probably has some respect or at the very least values his opinion in some way. Luis is also very observant of Patrick and he never confused him for someone else. So it’s funny how the two people who actually paid attention and cared about Patrick were the ones that he didn’t kill. Also on a side note, everyone that he killed in the movie thought he was someone else and didn’t know his identity. He was consistently giving women false names, Paul Allen thought he was someone else, and the homeless dude didn’t even know Patrick at all. Yet the people who did know who he was didn’t get touched. So I don’t know if he spared them because he felt bad or spared them because he thought he would get caught.

[@faiz.shaikh]

@@nonchalantcrab3486 very nice point

[@Joseph_yy]

Batman:WHERE IS SHE??? Joker:She’s at dorsia Batman:Damn it I can never get reservation there

[@samwellick1706]

You got a chuckle out of me 💀👏

[@aceous99]

future Batman and Joker.... in the same movie in the past lol

[@DrunkenCoward1]

Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's analysis of American Psycho.

[@michaelm3691]

"The movie doesn't even have a watermark on it"

[@jqyhlmnp]

this meme does not get enough credit!

[@Satanail323]

I saw Paul Allen's analysis twice in London...just ten days ago...

[@Noir0rioN]

Great sea urchin ceviché!

[@Folkmoot]

Hey Paul

[@j.r.1704]

What do you mean re-upload? I watched this video at dinner twice in London just ten days ago

[@shano6899]

No, you... didn’t.

[@butterflyqueen9260]

Lol

[@darpankumar6742]

Well you may feel it a re-upload but IT SIMPLY IS NOT THERE!

[@ryanbenson4610]

Best comment ever

[@saynaazimiyan3372]

😂😂😂😂

[@fatkiller1000]

The business card scene was fucking god tier. I almost shat my pants when he felt attacked by a slightly different color of white.

[@Enthusiast230]

I burst out laughing when he got to the tasteful thickness part.

[@nexroh3610]

lets see paul allens pants.

[@carolfromhr9900]

Probably one of the funniest scenes in film history.

[@MalMotorDedo]

Patrick: **gets really angry about the business card** Me: "Dude, they literally look the same XD"

[@aceous99]

@@MalMotorDedo all his friends act like it is so fucking impressive the design of a tiny 4 b 2 inch piece of cardboard

[@Vishal_____-]

He never does any work.... either in his office or his home... But he is rich.

[@Beast80001]

His fiancée mentions that his father pretty much runs the company and he could easily take off work for a wedding if he wanted to. Its safe to say he grew up with money, also probably how he got into Harvard

[@urfavweapon719]

Welcome to office life

[@carlisisaiah4506]

Trump

[@fellowgoyimwhite7630]

@@carlisisaiah4506 lmao

[@rinowx5]

Most rich people are that way lol have you seen how many breaks and vacations politicians have taken this year? They barely work

[@rahcollier7006]

I noticed that Bateman tends to shy away when someone acts in a genuine manner around him. (Lewis, his secratary.) And I felt that he kind of wanted to be caught, but the people around him were to self-involved to see his growing psychosis. There's a theme of disconnection.

[@georgepaulson6664]

Rah Collier it could be argued he only let these people live to feed his own ego, like “Yes! Finally, someone acknowledges me and respects me for who i am”. It would be more in line with his character considering how callous he’s portrayed to be. Just my guess though, I’m pretty sure it’s up to interpretation.

[@rahcollier7006]

True, it's up to interpretation, but in Lewis' case, he was grossed out. In the secretary's case, he seemed to be warning her to stay away, and egomaniacs love groupies.

[@WinterSPF15]

That’s behavior consistent with serial killers as well. For many of them, they want to be caught- they want the attention and notoriety

[@punishedlexi]

Ali Shabbiri yeah the whole serial killers secretly want to get caught thing is just Co opted from serial killer media imo. A pretty large amount of them tried desperately to not get caught and it only seems like they wanted to get caught because it was dumb shit that got them caught

[@jakek1735]

It's not just that he secretly wants to be caught, he flat-out confesses to people and they either don't believe him or don't listen

[@sabinasabino141]

Honestly, if the audience worships Patrick Bateman, the problem is with the audience, not with the film itself. Maybe this is the most disturbing message of the film, even though the main character is an absolute monster, we don’t care, he is rich, and America has a thing for the rich.

[@DIO-ls7zi]

Inventei um nome novo yeah people see it as you sometimes have to be a monster to obtain that wealth

[@jackxiao9702]

The audience identifies with Patrick. Not the serial killing, but the feeling of impotence, irrelevancy and lack of identity. Patrick is fucking miserable, his job has no impact, nothing he does matters and he does nothing. Even his murders are ignored or did not happen, and so he stays in his own version of hell.

[@KingBrooklynman]

This is true, but won't stop people from letting this sort of thing encourage them and miss the point entirely. Look at how influential The Prince has been through history, even though that too was originally written as parody.

[@sabinasabino141]

@@jackxiao9702 That's a very good point. This actually kind of reminds me of something, there was this analysis a teacher of mine did a long time ago (he was the type to quote and never bother to tell us who he was quoting, so I'd wager it wasn't actually his analysis), it was about self-inflicted harm in counter culture movements, mostly the punks, but it does resonate with what you said. With the death of Experience, experience with a capital e, in late capitalistic society and the dissolution of meaning in one's life that is not tied to the manufactured wants of the culture industry, the modern human (or the post-modern human, to be more accurate) became increasingly fluid and shapeless in his identity. The objects of status and fetishistic consumption became simutaneously the thing that constantly dislodged identity, and the only grounder for identity, or even reality honestly. The thing about this dialectic is that it is inherently unstable, especially if you cannot access these objects of status (ie. punks). And human beings crave Experience, historical, political, comunal Experience, so they will seek it wherever the market cannot reach. And for the punks, according to my teacher, that was pain, that was destruction, to themselves and to the world that rejected them. Patrick Bateman seeks Experience in murder, in death, and we, the Audience, seek experience in his murdering, in our media. The thing is, both in the film as in our search for experience in the film, we are left with nothing. There is no rebellion, there is merely simulacra of rebellion, the Experience that was promised to us is either dead or fake. But I do think the worship of Patrick Bateman, that in itself is the worship of his lifestyle, of his lack of substance, not really of his tragedy. We worship him for his fetishes of status that he so masterfully dominates, for his bling and his vapid consumption, because we have become like Patrick Bateman, endlessly searching for Experience, maybe not in "real" life like he did, but in our media.

[@sabinasabino141]

By the way, sorry for the bad english, I am a tiny bit drunk and english is not my first language.

[@Ironheart73]

Was it real? Was it all in Partrick's head? The answer is, It does not matter! Either way Patrick is insane Either way the society around him is so consumed by materialism they dont even see his insanity

[@RaviGupta-pm4wb]

Its about capitalism

[@samstuff8554]

@@RaviGupta-pm4wb I mean capitalism in general at least the way it is now is pretty much all about materialism

[@moonblade7564]

@@RaviGupta-pm4wb Don't confuse capitalism with materialism. Those often come together but are very different terms.

[@dm_hater8388]

@@RaviGupta-pm4wb No it’s not, it’s about yuppie culture, which enjoys a particular standing within a capitalist society. Most critique of capitalism comes from assumptions and over-simplification

[@piterpraker3399]

@@dm_hater8388 Exactly - and in that same vein, less advanced cultures broadly have a hard time separating success from excess when it comes to capitalism. It's a misunderstanding of fundamental values, when basic concepts like personal property are considered luxurious or selfish. Wealth is not evil by default.

[@GabrielFalcon760]

don’t stare at it, EAT IT!

[@gabiocampos]

Underrated quote 😂

[@CHANN3L_NAME]

Luke skywalker? I trained the apprentice of the same species as your master. Also what the mynock are you doing here.

[@sofiapax8993]

This is Batman before he went nuts and started dressing as a bat

[@ArcanePath360]

I actually read that as Bateman.

[@Fumble469]

And completely stopped killing everyone

[@paulallen2474]

I’m damaged.

[@TheMagiciansLoveX]

or Batman after and finally kills

[@sonictitan5604]

Before he went nuts riiiiiiight

[@wezzlyn]

I love that no one knows who anyone is. They're all so narcissistic that everyone calls each other by the wrong names. It leaves so many possibilities in the movie. I know it's maybe over analyzed, but I'm surprised you didn't touch even once on the debate over whether or not any of the murders even happened

[@hpvspeedmachine4183]

You can argue if paul bateman was really telling off to the girl at the bar in the opening scene considering she seems to ignore him. he is ignored also at the end of the movie by his lawyer.

[@hedhunta3767]

Paul Allen was murdered yet someone said he talked with him in London, aka he mistook that guy for Paul Allen. No one knows who anyone is indeed

[@SFxTAGG3]

As far as the original author of American Psycho is concerned, the murders really did happen. So I'm going with that.

[@ollytherevenant1653]

@@SFxTAGG3 I feel like the calendar with all his scribbles was his way of living out these fantasies and what we saw was what he imagined while drawing these. Plus I think with all the subtle hints and clues that a lot of stuff that he says and sees aren’t actually there like the ATM “feed me a stray cat” and how people seemingly don’t hear him when he says horrible things just feel like there’s so much to support thy didn’t happen. Not to mention how easily he would have been caught during the final scene or chainsaw murder.

[@Alice-cl9cf]

@@SFxTAGG3 the original author also said woman can't direct so I'm taking his word with a grain of salt

[@holyfreak8]

When I saw the movie the first time, my impression of the film is that you can be a pshycopath, but in the end the world can be indifferent to that. And that is what really hurts Patrick Bateman, he wants to be relevant but he isn't, he is just one more who everyone confusses him for other colleague.

[@ndepedentobserver4237]

People with mental illnesses tend to hide their diseases.

[@enflamedhuevos]

Bruh if you think Patrick Bateman is an anti-hero, please stay away from me. An anti-hero kind of hinges on doing something altruistic despite the characters bad nature. Patrick Bateman does nothing good for anybody except himself the entire movie.

[@rabbychan]

Why isn't it possible you stupid bastard?

[@backstabboi4559]

Is he evil

[@jimfortnite7810]

@@backstabboi4559 I don’t think you understand the difference between a villain protagonist and an antihero. An antihero is a person who influences the story positively despite their moral dubiousness, like Batman. A villain protagonist is a bad person who does bad things and is also the main character, like Bateman. An antihero is not an evil protagonist, as your comment seems to suggest you believe. Forgive me if I’ve interpreted your question wrong.

[@33up24]

To think people would be so dumb to say: "well acshually..." To a fucking serial killer. It's like even when a character like Patrick Bateman is the polar opposite of subtlety, people will still say he's an antihero.

[@thabang80]

@@33up24 well you can look at it from a lens of he actually didn’t kill anyone and it was all in his mind 🤷🏾‍♂️not saying he’s an anti-hero but he’s also not a “serial killer”

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

The fact that some people feel attracted to his vacuous lifestyle despite his murders shows how deep the movie really is. Like Patrick says "Inside doesn't matter".

[@MLBlue30]

It really reflects the true human condition.

[@mr.jameson218]

*cringe*

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

@@mr.jameson218 ????????

[@Coelacanthimorpha]

maybe even because of the murders

[@GorcStew]

This is a great point lol. Even Wolf of Wall Street was accused of glorifying this lifestyle (you know Leonardo Decaprio was offered this role before him eh?) even though he loses his wife that he beats the crap out of, his kids, his dignity and his entire life when he goes to prison....yea who doesn't want that?

[@ramilioverduzco]

Any movie that kills Jared Leto has the right idea.

[@acedefective2220]

Sadly Jared Leto didn't actually die in this film. Bateman just thought he killed him

[@DonkeyBoyVids]

@@acedefective2220 theory but ok

[@dromnk]

@@DonkeyBoyVids literally any interpretation of the truth in this film is theory. That's the whole point. Paul living is the theory with the most water.

[@nathancrosswhite8292]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@VividFilmProductions]

Emilio Verduzco he was a great actor up until suicide squad

[@chiyo-chanholocaust8143]

So the way people actually for idealized Bateman's life style and found the movie darkly funny literally makes the "this confession has meant nothing" line work as a meta message. Absolutely f*ckin genius

[@matthewrocca4197]

Good points presented, but I would just add that anyone who reads anything “cool” or “admirable” into Patrick is clearly the type of person that the story is making fun of. Failure to understand satire doesn’t make the satire itself a failure, it makes the intelligence of the viewer or reader a failure, IMO

[@samwellick1706]

Exactly! Just because the majority doesn't get it doesn't make it a failure. It's the people who failed to understand the depth, not the fault of the writer or the director. If they really failed, this video wouldn't exist.

[@ryansanchez9893]

Pat’s got the physique of a god though

[@alexanderlea7882]

Bro I understand the satire, I just think murder is based.

[@piterpraker3399]

@@alexanderlea7882 Absolutely based.

[@piterpraker3399]

@The Urban Spaceman Bateman IS cool because he's sharp. The dialogue between characters establishes that all of the guys are in fact cool. Perhaps the coolest. Their obsessive tendencies provide an artificial arena for them to safely vent their anxiety in a plastic world that doesn't stop moving. Bateman thinks he breaks out of this by physically indulging in the angst caused by his disconnection. I think this was just hallucination though - really he snapped under the pressure of playing the game too well. To the degree that it wouldn't matter if he had the best business card - he would constantly be under siege by the next nonissue. This is simulated challenge in a tier of fulfilled needs. The struggles that people need to make their lives whole aren't here. They're living a shell game. But they're fucking cool.

[@Matt-gh2zm]

It took me about 10 viewings to realize that the model who “mishears” PB say murders and executions may have just considered it wall street slang for mergers and acquisitions

[@jakfrost25]

Matt I think it’s just a simple case of mishearing, as the words are so similar. In any case, I don’t think she as a character would know any slang for mergers and acquisitions anyway.

[@diogeneslantern18]

Very nice.

[@Matt-gh2zm]

@@jakfrost25 As a model frequenting clubs where the wall street elite attend (and she actively engages with PB and the boys in the film), I don't see why she wouldn't pick up on the slang

[@NoOneUsesTheirRealName]

Isn’t part of their interchangeable nature that they all say “murders and executions” as if it’s clever and she’s heard it a tedious number of times? I thought she conveyed that.

[@Ahmadbeik99]

If you were correct she wouldn't have asked him if he liked it or not

[@kensyre]

Near-obsessive skin care routine✅ Pride in my trivial knowledge✅ Serial killings: pending

[@amichair]

I also take pride in my trivial knowledge but I feel I am far from a psychopath. (I did realize your comment was meant jokingly btw)

[@kensyre]

@@amichair Far from it too, and plan on keeping it that way.

[@fathel9221]

Haha

[@notyou8716]

I have a list of people I'm going to take out the day I finally lose my shit.

[@fathel9221]

@@notyou8716 talk to a therapist.

[@Migzter05]

This is the role that ultimately got him the attention of Christopher Nolan for the role of Batman. He does the dual identity thing really good.

[@danielolortegui8422]

I heard the same thing

[@rossturpin747]

In this ever growing narcissistic world this film only becomes more relevant. Not many films can claim that.

[@Luca-bv5ic]

@Selim Sultan Akbar shut it akbar

[@cerealmilk1803]

@@Luca-bv5ic poor general Akbar

[@darklazerx7913]

The morning routine is literally just a youtube video.

[@Liquid_Mike]

"Idiocracy" sure can

[@ZigealFaust]

Did you know that Whitney Houston's debut LP, called simply Whitney Houston, had 4 number one singles on it?? Did you know that, Christie???

[@f.boogaloospook2318]

its impossible to emphatize with others we can always emphatize wtih ourselves

[@jakek1735]

You listen to Whitney Houston? You actually OWN a Whitney Houston CD? MORE THAN ONE?!

[@rabbychan]

@@jakek1735 That's the moment she had chosen death

[@Wolfphototech]

Christian bale is among on the the modern acting gods .

[@Loki-sk7bi]

Wolfphototech Entertainment No doubt! Dude is an amazing actor

[@WickedKnightAlbel]

"I'm not wearing hockey pads" is still laugh-out-loud bad dialogue, both in writing and delivery

[@angelgjr1999]

He was the BEST batman!

[@muhammedshefin3939]

He is the best option to play the joker

[@Fumble469]

The veins poping as hes sweating his balls out

[@charlesconfino165]

I think my favorite thing about the film is how all the people who talk to Patrick hear him but don’t actually listen to what he’s saying. People are often so preoccupied with their own lives, it’s probably how a lot of serial killers were able to get away with their crimes for so long

[@fakename3440]

The reason why Paul's death was the only one acknowledged is because he's somehow important and people care about him. Sadly, no one cares about poor prostitutes and homeless men.

[@kellyloax28]

Wait that might be another part to the theme “ they only care about themselves” like how they only care about Paul’s death even tho Bateman killed other people and since they’re not rich or established they don’t care (I hope that made sense)

[@teody7240]

It was only acknowledge by his fiance Meredith. Meredit called a private investigator to find what happened to Paul. Even the Private investigator seems to give Bateman an alibi by telling he was with his friends. The real estate lady even said have you seen an ad in the times? (She knows the killings but chose to no longer discuss it as it might lower the status of the property if ppl know they were murders) She eventually said there are no ads in the Times, implying to Bateman that nothing happened and never talk about. Simply, they just dont care if there were murders, they were simply self obsessed.

[@gregmorris2022]

The funniest part of this film to me has always been how poorly placed his hi fi speakers are. He has, what appears to be, a very high end two channel system. However, the placement of the speakers is absurd. The bass response would be extremely bloated and unbalanced with the speakers stuffed into the corners as they are. This may seem trivial to the casual observer, however it brilliantly demonstrates just how superficial Bateman (Batman?) is. It serves as an almost subliminal indication of his use of material possession to demonstrate his status. His hilarious rant on the nuance of Huey Lewis and the News and his supposed love of the band is made even funnier by how little he cares for what must be a terrible sounding reproduction of the performance.

[@conbon3564]

I read your comment in Bateman's voice.

[@honeybadger1810]

Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's analysis on Bateman's speaker set up.

[@Th3Downz]

No clue if that's intentional or not, but it totally lines up with his character. As long as he has a nice setup and call tell other people he does, it's worth it.

[@theonewhobullies]

Impressive. Very nice Now let's hear Zimmer's analysis of the speakers positions

[@impact0r]

This is an interesting point. However, the speakers have front-facing bass reflex tubes which makes the corner setup plausible. Also, it would be very much in Bateman's character to hire some top sound company in the city to set his audio up (just so that he can later mention it in conversations), rather than do anything by himself in his apartment where everything looks like from magazine photos, devoid of any personal touch of the occupant.

[@alphacause]

American Psycho's most impactful commentary about the deleterious effect of consumerism on society is the fact that much of the audience that saw the film, instead of looking at Patrick Bateman's story as a cautionary tale, instead wrongly found much of his superficial obsessions worth emulating.

[@milton7763]

Drake Santiago Finally! Someone with a brain

[@PrimetimeX]

I for one think Bateman is the only sane character in that whole movie.

[@dragoncannon]

@@milton7763 That's basically the point of the video.

[@milton7763]

Synesthesia on the contrary, it states that if that was the point the movie failed, it states the absence of more explicitly violent scenes makes Bateman likable (somehow) and many other things that run contrary to this theme/‘message’

[@Cory989]

Milton77 you’re projecting what you want the movie to be. He’s just a fucking psycho to most viewers, get over it.

[@adizzmal]

I think all the murders are imaginary. That’s why they show the notebook with all the murder drawings, he would draw them and we’d be in his head as he is imagining them.

[@egekazkayas8968]

He litterally takes medication that is used for hallucinations.

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

Also that rampage near the end was way too surreal. The ATM and cop car exploding were blatant hallucinations.

[@mackychloe]

Agreed. only in his imagination could he achieve that shot with the chainsaw.

[@trikebeatstrexnodiff]

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[@egekazkayas8968]

@@trikebeatstrexnodiff filmde

[@anbuu6848]

This is one of the only movies that made me audibly say “Wtf did I just watch”

[@samstuff8554]

Look up ex machina it’s another one of those wtf kinda movies

[@rakune7252]

You should read the book, you’ll run out of air after saying that

[@imsanjivdhami]

watch the lighhouse of robert pattinson & william dafoe

[@thebicycleman8062]

oh then you should watch any david lynch movie if you want more of that

[@dristan9785]

Yeah... I don't get why people think that's a good thing. Same with the whole Joker hype, he's a victim of society, we get that in the first 20 minutes, it's not that deep, and it's certainly not new. And it also doesn't become deep by giving that message in a confusing way.

[@WayneBristol]

The book makes the movie look like Mr. Roger's Neighborhood in terms of grisly violence. It's a slow build, but once it gets to it, it's almost too repulsive to read.

[@jimmyjohnson8065]

Oh shut up you paper nazi. You have to invest into the same story for weeks. I watched the movie in 2 hours.

[@theeoddments960]

Jimmy Johnson thank you mr jimmy johnson

[@ChrisR395]

@@jimmyjohnson8065 We're all proud of you, Jimmy lol

[@jimmyjohnson8065]

Chris Ruston im so proud of you for imagining shit you could see

[@alexshepherd1801]

It's the only book I've ever quit reading halfway through and never picked up again. Bret Easton Ellis should be on a watchlist.

[@milton7763]

For more explanation of a movie to so-called movie critics: There is absolutely no doubt that Bateman killed those people. Disappearing bodies? Even the movie (let alone the book) makes it blindingly clear that the bodies in the apartment in Hell’s Kitchen were gotten rid of by the real estate agent. As yet another brilliant metaphor for ‘80s yuppie culture: better to ‘bury’ the truth than have the value of your property diminish. As soon as Patrick checks the closet and seems confused by the bodies not being there, the real estate agent realizes he’s the killer and ushers him out the apartment rather than calling the police.

[@Th3Downz]

Of course there's doubt. It was written to instill doubtfulness as to whether he's imagining it all or not. I agree with you that more than likely he killed some/all those people, but doubt is absolutely supposed to be part of the narrative. Him talking to his lawyer saying he had lunch with Allen recently, nobody being able to distinguish one yuppie from another. The fucking ATM telling him to feed it a cat? Specifically, that last act is designed to make you feel that way...

[@sigurdkaputnik7022]

I think you misunderstand: (In the book) He had rented storage space in an otherwisely unused warehouse in Hell's Kitchen, a city district in Manhattan. There he disposed the body of Paul Allen (in the book named Paul Owen) in a bathtub. Pauls Apartment however, as he mentions in the movie, overlooked the central park. Since Hell's Kitchen ends one block before Columbus Circle and the big TimeWarner building, it's not possible to have an apartment in HK that overlooks the central park. That would only be possible from West 59th St, 5th Avenue (the section next to central park) and central park west/north. So the hells kitchen place is NOT Paul's place. He also doesn't seem to know his own adress. In the beginning he says "West 51st St" but to the detective he said "West 54th St". Better double check before you call someone "so called".

[@sigurdkaputnik7022]

It's not "blindingly clear" as you think. Returning to Paul's Apartment over and over again is extremly risky. PB doesn't know who else got keys for that place. Could be Paul's relatives or his girlfriend walking in on him, as he is having fun with girls. No, too much exposure. And the place could staked out by a P.I. hired by Paul's family to investigate his disappearance. And stashing decaying corpses over months and months in one place - that stench must be infernal. Someone would have taken notice of that smell very quickly. Jeffrey Dahmer was caught because his neighbors noticed the smell of rotten bodies in his apartment. I dont think he killed all that people. Maybe some but not all.

[@sigurdkaputnik7022]

@Scott T she could also take him for a burglar. Someone who knew Paul Allen, knew about his disappearance could try to break in and search for score.

[@rakune7252]

You actually cleared it up for me. Thanks a lot. I’ve read the book and seen the film and it did have me wondering

[@PokeMario-pk4ot]

I believe that the scene where Patrick says he killed Paul wasn't meant to show that it was fake, it was supposed to show how there's nothing unique about any of the employees. You even said that Patrick is mistaken for a guy named Davis, so this is likely what happened. Someone else was mistaken as Paul

[@araknair9605]

I think it "fails" on purpose, showing the audience that they are part of the problem for wanting parts of Bateman's life.

[@kkcake5771]

I agree

[@abderrezakmerabet4824]

Jared looked different today, maybe he changed his haircut !! any clues ?

[@onje_berdy1590]

Probably he just put on a gas mask?

[@OutlawAladdin]

He looked older back then lmao

[@found_documents]

This new Jared is awesome.

[@dunkalunk]

I miss Jared's beard.

[@Jorge-cl1pr]

I thought you meant Jared as in Kushner 😅 like a Patrick Bateman look alike.

[@GorillaBeaver]

You've made a little mistake. At 7:44 that's not Marcus Halberstram... that's David Van Patten. Marcus and David look very alike and mistaking people for others is a recurring thing in the film It's quite funny how you too confuse these men.

[@saidtrinidad814]

GorillaBeaver maybe that’s the point dun dun dunnnnn

[@Meghnaaad]

She might have mistaken him for Marcus, like everyone in this movie.

[@simono.5698]

doubt she edited the video since wisecrack has a whole team for these things

[@yourdaddy6030]

Not a LITTLE mistake. A huge deal. An editing blunder beyond belief.

[@Meghnaaad]

@@yourdaddy6030 I think they did it deliberately. Cause everyone in this movie is mistaken for someone else.

[@MisterTutor2010]

It would be a great twist if Bateman were to find out that all of his colleagues are also serial killers and be depressed to find out that they have bigger body counts and more impressive kills than him :)

[@ak73372]

Batman kills the joker and then the green goblin starts investigating him. Sounds like a great movie

[@vm5500]

As a graphic designer I resent your comment about the triviality of fonts.

[@99sins]

As the son of one, i second this. Fonts make the mood of the message just as colors do.

[@blackfish86]

Agreed, I can't take someone writing formally in a sans serif font seriously!

SHE SAID HELVETICA, THAT'S NOT HELVETICA!

[@akatheflailingchicken7807]

I also agree. We took a whole month to two discussing fonts and their importance.

[@benjaminbankwin5690]

she means trivial to graphic design, no, a trivial reason to kill someone, yes

[@MrFeyerwire]

Deep or Dumb is irrelevant, its still one of my favorite movies of all time. The other day at work, I had all my employees laughing half to death, while doing my Patrick Bateman Beauty Routine impersonation. "While I do my crunches, I can do a thousand now"

[@369TurtleMan]

Your employees were laughing politely because they don't want you to fire them

[@53chabit]

@@369TurtleMan or be killed

[@shaddowmystwolf]

@@369TurtleMan I think you mean,...to get the Axe.

[@theorangeoof926]

I have to go get some videotapes

[@TheMartyredextras]

I have no idea how anyone can view him as a role model or an anti-hero. It's clear that, despite being the protagonist of the film, he is a bad dude. His status as a villain is perhaps debatable just as the state of reality in the movie is, but that's what makes it such a good film. Patrick Bateman is a Psychopath no matter how you slice it. Whether you think he killed all those people or merely fantasized it and is losing touch with reality, unable to discern facts from fiction, two things are clear. Not everything we see is real and Patrick Bateman is a TERRIBLE human being. (if you can even consider him that any more) The film is simultaneously a commentary on how out of touch and clueless the elites are and how insane they all are, constantly making points about their interchangeability along with their cluelessness. On another level, I think the film is a commentary on how all of us, not only the wall street big wigs have some piece of the American Psycho within us. Superficial, detached, desensitized, bottling up emotions while hiding darker thoughts, pretending to care about the issues like homelessness and world hunger and wars in distant countries when really we don't. It's all a show and I think the film wants us to look into ourselves on this as well. But ultimately, as the movie states, it won't matter. Because we'll still all play the part. We'll still go about our days, ignoring the problems of others while pretending to care to appear morally superior. We may admit it to ourselves, but at the end of the day, no one will really do anything about it. Our punishment eludes us in this unjust society. Our confession means nothing. Regardless if you agree with my interpretation, I think that what makes this film great is that it is prone to these many interpretations. And thanks to lots of artsy metaphors told through an unreliable narrator, none of them can really be confirmed or denied.

[@BigBrianBruce]

I agree I think the reason we never knew if he really killed these people or not is cause he’s lost his mind, he’s a unreliable narrator I believe it half fantasy and half real I think did fantasize about killing some people and he actually did murder some people in the film. I think the murders, confessions, and the way he talks and acts toward others is what he really wants to say to that person or really act. I do believe he thinks about killing his secretary but never does it cause she is the only one who generally sees his bullshit and the sickness within himself, I believe he’s is surrounded by super facial people who don’t care about him and kind of take him as a joke which cause Bateman to rage out in his mind and ends up possibility murdering someone or ends up fantasizing about it. I do believe his sexual behaviors is a way to act out even his frustrations with women and it’s a way to feed his ego to make trick himself into believing he’s actually in control of a situation. In the day I think the story like fight club is a metaphor on society and commercialism and how just like Bateman you could have everything in the world and still be the most miserable person in the world . I do believe Bateman was the most miserable person and become a product of his own surroundings to the point he felt trapped and slaved in it that it literally caused him to lose his mind by the time we begin the story with Bateman

[@JamesGaming257]

One thing though is that he’s not a psychopath he’s a sociopath/narcissist. Very different things, a psychopath wouldn’t have spiralled into craziness like Bateman did.

[@BigBrianBruce]

@@JamesGaming257 interesting can you please explain the differences between all of them

[@ndepedentobserver4237]

I have the opinion that this film shows also a detouchment from reality. We live in a non perfect world, yet we try to be the best version of ourselves. The thing that Bateman says, that you can sense him but he is really not there, shows this side of ourselves and of our world.

[@JamesGaming257]

@@BigBrianBruce sorry for the wait didnt see your reply, but a quick rundown would be that psychopaths do not feel fear in the same way me and you do. since birth they have never felt the weight of anxiety that causes children to become empathetic and fit into social roles, and so youre not going to find a psychopath that has low self esteem or neurotism. they'll usually be people who are extremely popular and charismatic and won't ever need to find a meaning in their life to be happy, because happiness and sadness just doesn't really make sense to them. so psychopathy is more of a biological disorder of not feeling fear. Patrick Bateman's co-workers would be very likely to be psychopaths, as they're fine living a life with no love or connection with other people. so a sociopath and a narcissist are born just like normal people, but are usually heavily traumatised during their childhood. the difference between the two is that a sociopath develops psychopathic-traits as a coping mechanism, whereas a narcissist develops an extremely egotistic view of themselves as a coping mechanism. both of them simply harbour a fear of love and rejection, and i think it fits patrick bateman more; to fit into this society full of psychopaths, he's had to put up a facade or mask of apathy. but just like any normal person without any love, he becomes manic and egotistic (think the scene where theyre showing their business cards to each other, where patrick is so desperate to fill the hole inside him by being the best that even someone having a better business card leads him to extreme jealousy and eventually murder.) i think his psychosis is from him wanting to fit in with everyone else but also wanting something to fill the emptiness he feels, and when he finds that its impossible he can't handle it anymore and goes crazy. i think its also why he spares the girl at the end (his assistant) because shes actually a normal person who wants to truly care for patrick, and he sees that. so to end this, basically psychopathy is a biological disorder of fearlessness, whereas sociopathy and narcissism are coping mechanisms normal people develop to hide the pain and emotions they feel deep down.

[@IAmNumber4000]

I’m getting pretty sick of audiences criticizing movies because they can’t grasp that films may have a deeper meaning than what appears on the surface. They did this movie dirty. Along with Starship Troopers and Inglourious Basterds.

[@dristan9785]

Maybe it's just not that deep...

[@BryWithAWhy]

I always kinda read the scene where they are discussing world issues at dinner as more about Bateman being a sociopath, incapable of actually connecting with others. His friend is genuinely discussing an issue, where Patrick just parrots news headlines to try and appear more well-read than he is. The scene emphasizes the reactions of others at dinner, who don't really take him seriously; his facade slipping in the moment.

[@Shadow-Storm]

She : you are inhuman He : No, I m in touch with humanity.. LOL

[@SFxTAGG3]

It's funny because in a way, he kinda is the only one in his group of peers who is in touch with reality.

[@shookiesnookie4249]

What I’ve gathered from this movie: Bateman isn’t the only psycho in the movie. Don’t read the specials if I wanna keep my spleen.

[@ZEPIfriedchicken]

It’s a dark comedy, especially the book

[@tonytorrez1256]

For some reason, I thought all the murders and violence that occurred in this movie were fantasized... to me this movie was all about class and status sure, but also how ironic with all of Bateman’s efforts, nobody can remember him because he (and his actions) were essentially meaningless. He can’t climb to the height of his profession, just like he couldn’t actually kill people. Definitely worth the rewatch though :)

[@ejc2064]

no your right, patrick never tortured or killed anyone it's fun to interpret it as he did but its not whats in the screen or in the book. Its all in his fantasy and the scary thing is that the very thing that lead him to fantasize about the killing and torture is the very thing that kept him from doing it, that everyone around him is so self absorbed they barley notice him. No one cares or nurtured him except for those that he views beneath him and claims he hates. So he continues his life cold, self deciting, tortured, in denial and doomed to be this cog wanted to be different by being just like everyone else. Unable to escape or confess his true feelings of worthlessness and rage at the very people he aspires to become. Not because he see's them as being evil or wronging him but because they deny him want he wants most, attention, proof of existence. Do I matter? No mr. bateman, you do not.

[@munjee2]

Saying it's definatly a fantasy is entirely wrong its is clearly designed so that both assessments are equally valid

[@ejc2064]

@@munjee2 well according to the writer director and the author their intent was that it was a fantasy. Postmodernism aside which is totally valid and endorsed by them. The intent was it was a fantasy mental breakdown. As far as I have read from interviews with them. I know ellis got tired of the question and likes screwing with people so who knows on that end for sure but I think I read a few early on interviews where he stated such. And the book if I recall as it has been awhile is pretty obvious about it being in his head by the end.

[@Purpleturtlehurtler]

Finally got a comment thread that is thoughtful and insightful.

[@ejc2064]

@bigpimpdaddy69 well hell, I know ellis was more in the unreliable narrator camp. Didn't know about the Charlie rose interview. Thats interesting that Harron wanted to take that approach of it being real. It seems ellis wasnt happy with the intent but seemed ok with the final product failing to deliver the directors intent. Funny side note I was firmly in the it really happen camp when i was a teen until some jerks at a movie store gave me crap for it and I read the book and ellis interview and I guess they cherry picked interview passages to prove their point. Though it seems ellis did feel some of the stuff happened and others did not. Remember kids sometimes people that seem to know more, don't always do. Do the research! Thanks for the quotes also awesome that you gave us those. Forgive me as well its been almost 20 years since the last time I looked into the movie things get hazy. :)

[@retardedvaxxedliberal]

This movie is absolutely genius and there are several layers to it. The first word of the title, "American", describes the setting that Bateman thrives in, while the second word, "Psycho" is used to describe Bateman but also American society. Bateman represents America at its worst, but that doesn't mean that his environment is automatically good. Everyone around Batman is narcissistic, self-important, greedy, and exploiting. Everyone has psychopathic qualities, not just Patrick. He is only an exaggeration of the psychopathy around him. The real point of the film is that Wall Street itself is the "American Psycho" because it ignores and confuses the victims of crime and everyone is too self-absorbed to establish any meaningful relationships with anybody, because everybody is identical and everybody has the same goal: to fit in.

[@ozzylepunknown551]

The morning routine is literally what every vlogger morning routine video is like

[@CameraPunk5049]

Lmao that's actually true.

[@_tronk_2529]

Do you like Helen and the news? Their early work was a little too philosophical for my taste, but when American Physco: is it deep or dumb came out in '19, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The video has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate philosophy, that really gives the video a big boost. She's been compared to Jared, but I think Helen has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. "Why are their copies of American Physco everywhere, do you have a youtube channel or something?" No Allen. "is that a raincoat?" Yes, it is! In '18 Wisecrack released this, "Gaze into the abyss" their most accomplished video, and undisputed masterpiece. A video so catchy, most probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should! Because it's not just about nihilism and a depressed horse, it's also a personal statement about the channel itself. Hey Paul!

[@bobbymcfobby5068]

Helen and the news?

[@thomasrichardson5661]

(Kills with axe to the face.)

[@lb2kxx]

Hey Paul! AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@goatamatix894]

Oh hi Mark.

[@saeedbaig4249]

Criminally underrated comment 😂

[@yagomi32]

I love this movie & I also use my favorite line when people try to get in my business, "I have to return some videotapes".

[@georgepaulson6664]

seven of 9 startrekie I just say I need to charge my phone lmao

[@mr.dipsticc1119]

Genuinely baffled by people who uphold Bateman as a hero and compare him to characters such as the Joker. In what ways is he free-thinking and anti-establishment? No reading comprehension whatsoever

[@johnolsen8772]

The theory that he doesn't actually kill anyone changes the meaning to me. I believe that the kind of working life he lives has actually killed any passion and drive he had as a person, buying things is the only way to now validate his existence. The dreams of killings are more an outlet for all the repressed emotions in putting up a facade around all those fake people

[@voodoopls2856]

"A billionaire Wall-Street business tycoon with a bombshell wife..." How loosely are we using the word "bombshell" here?

[@ChrisR395]

That woman looked like a troll.

[@noir8864]

Chris Ruston That’s an insult to trolls

[@jjhassy]

Voodoo Pls it’s lost all meaning at that point

[@Robbythegod]

Ironic that you're all failing to learn the lesson of this film after it's just been spelled out to you and continuing to objectify a woman you don't know as a means of displaying your social superiority.

[@jjhassy]

@@Robbythegod hahaha woman ugly

[@_EVANERV_]

Well, at least the "fat rat" part of the book is not included in the movie. Also I really like how they adopted the chaotic nature of the book and how materialistically obsessive all the characters are into the movie. I would even say this movie is perhaps one of the most accurate and faithful to the original material when comes to movies adopted from books.

[@davidlucas8487]

Yeah...when Helen mentioned how the movie brushes off the violence or plays it for laughs, that would explain why audiences glorify Bateman. The book forces you to confront the horrifying violence with the same dispassion as a description of a suit or a review of a Huey Lewis album so there's no ambiguity left.

[@RickReasonnz]

It's funny tho, for a movie that cut a LOT from the book, it still remains very true to the source material. Hats off the the director for that.

[@diegoernestovarelaparra3820]

@@davidlucas8487 On the other hand, jumping the violence of the book help to cast doubt of whatever he did or not murder those people, making is final stament that it dosent matter the inside.

[@milton7763]

💆‍♀️ People! Have you ever heard of the FDA and ratings? If this movie had all the scenes of the book depicted it would have stood a black person’s chance at the oscars to have made it to release

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

@@milton7763 that’s the mpaa I believe, certainly it’s not the food and drug administration

[@WaltuhWhitey]

I'm glad you asked ;) Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.

[@ranjan_v]

Most importantly Batman killed the Joker

[@Cruz474]

Now yuo see

[@iCookCrystalMeth]

@@Cruz474 lol

[@politereminder6284]

Bateman or Batman?😅

[@politereminder6284]

@@ranjan_v did you know that Peter Parker is Spiderman? A lot of people don't know that 🤭😉

[@cobywan0519]

Y’all just used parody and satire interchangeably which is dumb considering y’all have a video detailing the difference between the two

[@metronicmagician1816]

I would argue that this film is more or less both a parody and a satire, but for different topics and from different viewpoints. Looking at as a critique of consumerism and 80s yuppie culture it’s a parody, looking at as a critique of 80s masculinity it’s a satire, and looking at it as a whole can be either a parody or a satire depending on one’s own view point (either connected to this type of culture or not). Just because satire and parody are different things doesn’t mean they can’t be in the same chunk of medium.

[@prettypleasewithsugarontop4858]

I would argue that any Time you use the phase ( ya’all ) the battle is lost ( just my personal opinion ya’all)

[@ericthomas5963]

Pretty please With sugar on top Says the guy who capitalised only 1st and 3rd word in his name?

[@futurestoryteller]

Wow - you got in the top comments for (incorrect) pedantry. Parody and Satire are like squares and rectangles. A satire is not necessarily a parody, but a parody is necessarily a satire. Specifically a parody is a form of satire intended to ridicule through the use of comedy. Therefore in speaking about any film which is a parody, the words parody and satire can be used interchangeably in most cases.

[@cobywan0519]

futurestoryteller they specifically said in their earlier video that a satire is a criticism of what it is depicting and a parody is in an embrace of it, to show it can be done differently. So how can they possibly be one in the same

[@MrGeo-EmitFodrol]

"Bombshall wife" damn standards must of went up from the 80s

[@johnniez]

That's Reese Witherspoon isn't it? Yeah, I never thought she was a looker either.

[@Luca-bv5ic]

@@johnniez what? Reese Witherspoon is a looker IMO. I think he's talking about trump's wife at the time

[@memesouls8653]

So basically this also represents our modern “influencers” on social media? I wouldn’t say it’s a far stretch to say how the social commentary made in this movie still applies to our world even today. We live in a world now where status is an even bigger thing in our culture.

[@bremensims6086]

I think that Bateman did kill Allen, but that because everyone is so alike and personality basically doesn't matter, the guy didn't realize it wasn't him.

[@disenchanted987]

The second time I saw the film I realised the last shot is of him sitting in front of a No Exit sign and thought maybe it was a Sartre reference and he was actually in his own pocket of Hell

[@sigurdkaputnik7022]

It is. It is a reference to a Sarte play- i forgot the name.

[@llcdrdndgrbd]

@@sigurdkaputnik7022 the title is literally translated as “no exit” and is the one where they famously say hell is other people

[@JGHinton1989]

It's essentially a test, the movie, it only glorifies these things if the viewer aspires to this lifestyle, in which case it serves as a mirror to that viewer.

[@WHYFISHTAKEN]

christian bale acted so well that when patrick bateman called his lawyer, you could actually feel pity for a insane psychopath who kills for fun

[@CoreyisBarackObama]

Fun fact: In preparation for the role, Christian Bale chose to spend time in my house, working my job and talking to my friends to accurately depict, literally me.

[@Bojoschannel]

I believe the film was ultimately used as mentioned in the video, as a glorification of Patrick's lifestyle, because it's a reflection and reaffirmation of capitalism. Everyone just looks at the superficial "Bateman is so cool omg", "i wanna be rich like him". Nearly no one looks at the deeper, at Patrick's mental situation and his struggles and how him being a murderer or not doesn't matter for shit. "This confession meant nothing","My pain is constant and sharp and do not wish a better world for anyone". He WISHES he was a murderer to at least feel something, to at least BE something, he yearns for that meaning in the meaningless world of pure capitalism. That's why he couldn't "kill" his assistant, he actually felt something for her, yet he didn't know how to legimately approach a loved one. He is stuck in this world of appearences and can't get away from it because that's all he can do, whatever it is he does. Maybe he is actually a murderer, but it won't matter because lawyers and his company can make as if nothing ever happened. Truth, being human, none of this matters in patrick's world, only what you have, how you look and how the Other perceives you.

[@Vladlll]

"My pain is constant and sharp and do not wish a better world for anyone" -He feels pain and emptiness

[@Cory989]

So if it he didn’t exist in a country thriving on capitalism he would be fine with his life? Libs are weird.

[@Spasstiful]

@@Cory989 No, but it means that societies values are much more focused on hyperficial commodities. "Clothes make people's", capitalism thrives in implanting new trends and wantings from which many of us derive their self conscious/worth. It doesn't say without capitalism there will be no fucked up people anymore, it says we all would be less psychotic. Isn't it quite the funny correlation that our societies grow bigger in narcissism phenomena? You see the satire of him explaining his beauty routine as if it is the most important thing, basically critizising us buying all kind of bullcrap we spend 2 hours wiping our precious faces with? Everyone becomes just a subjectivation of their own wanting, people _it_self become commodities to each other without even realising. That has in some cases personality issues and in some systematic ones. What we are doing is disgusting. We rather argue if people should dress a certain way than actually asking ourselves if it is moral to hunt every new trend regarding the conditions of how many clothes are made. We do not realise anymore, we are disconnected from so many things, I don't take myself out of it. Capitalism sure does a lot of helping in bringing out the bad traits of our human condition.

[@Cory989]

Oli FF lol where tf do you live? Probably in a place thriving off of capitalism

[@Spasstiful]

@@Cory989 Yes, and? What does that has to do with the critique?

[@Turtleproof]

Bateman is either immune from the law due to his wealth or merely fantasized his actions, like in Shame. Bateman himself looks at his pistol in disbelief.

[@alyissaaragon6943]

Or he lives in an AU where all of his actions are inconsequential

[@johnnyrevenge2512]

I do think he fantasizes everything he's shown doing... In some instances things appear out of nowhere...

[@MySerpentine]

I think it's about half and half.

[@faithkidwell9757]

Can I just say that this is the first video of yours that I watched and I loved it. I like how unlike most people you actually tried to understand the film and didn’t just go with “I don’t get it so it’s dumb” I mean the parts that seemed to confuse you you also tried to interpret as best you could and analyze. Great video.

[@steveewunder]

Just watched the movie, took me like 20 minutes to piece all the themes together, and without a doubt, this is a scathing critique of status obsession. The killings were all an expression of his frustration of feeling superior, yet not seeing those results in reality. The greatest component is that he never imagined repercussions of killing women, even when killing his secretary would have sunk him with the detective. This is most definitely a feminist message in that it shows how deluded men can be. God this movie has layers.

[@rogueprince1341]

When i first saw this movie in theaters I was so damn confused cuz i didnt know it was taking place in the 80s.

[@pipermarie8393]

Rogue Prince, I remember thinking the same thing, once he brought out the Walkman I was like this has to be set in the 80’s

[@MatthewC33199]

Same here (except I didn't see it in theaters)!

[@theeoddments960]

Seriously the car the music where Bateman said multiple times that they were new releases either you grew as a person drastically in those 19 years and your attention span widened or you were 7 when you watched it

[@rogueprince1341]

@@theeoddments960 well if I hadnt grown in those 19 years I might have grown up to be like you. I'm glad to say that wasnt the case.

[@theeoddments960]

Rogue Prince haha! LOL! Funni! Very good burn! “I might end up like you” HAHA!!LOL!!

[@AspLode]

13:42 "and yet the issues American Psycho RAILS against…" while they do a couple rails, nice timing.

[@mrshadrack8554]

She has a really generic voice I don’t know how to describe it but it basically means she sounds like every other big female youtuber it’s strange.

[@Opethfeldt]

I'm convinced they're all the same woman.

[@h.celine9303]

Yeah, that stroke me as well. First few seconds of the video I was like "They all have the same narrator, strange"

[@darkomen1290]

this was so informative and concise. loved it! great script and great narration.

[@jf1456]

The film takes Bateman side because we are supposed to see it from his POV except when we see the illusion shattering

[@georgemichael5417]

When I’m on my first tinder date Me “So ask me a question” Woman “What do you do?” Me “I’m into murder and executions mostly”

[@sarahmcdonald9624]

I hear the author said that even he doesn’t know if it was real or all in his head. As a writer, I call bullshit. No one writes a novel without knowing all the answers to all the questions. He knows, he created that character. He’s had to sit down and ask himself if the killings were real, and answer it. It’s just weird that we don’t have a solid answer😑

[@DonatienAlphonse]

The writer is an admitted liar. He's said as much in recent interviews.

[@Ang3l_ad3n]

Seeing as mistaken identity is a big theme in the film how do we know that bateman didn’t/did mistaken someone else for Paul Allen and kill this “paul Allen” character

[@arp1345]

or the lawyer mistook the man he went to lunch with in london as Paul Allen, showing that even the highest up yuppies are still skin deep and easily mistaken for others

[@screechingowl7613]

The book is actually more graphic than any movie I've ever seen. I consider this a pretty tame adaptation.

[@davidmenty611]

Was there ever a question of it being deep? I thought satires that get mistaken for what they are satirizing are the ones that hit their mark the hardest.

[@MsSwitchblade13]

He looks like Bruce wayne when he's sitting there in the restaurant giving his speech to his table. Lol

[@akoskovacs6830]

Yeah, Nolan hired a similarly looking actor as Batman not much later. Maybe Samuel L Jackson, I am unsure.

[@graham8643]

I appreciate the quality of these videos, especially this one! They're very well-researched.

[@danielchung2633]

Do you know im utterly insane

[@universal_wisdom3416]

daniel chung Did* ..... JEEZUS!

[@dyle7967]

Dont even have to see this to say that American Psycho is a genius story

[@codygillard]

I like to think that Patrick is just a dude high on Datura flowers going insane

[@cyphlawd9143]

I found this movie so funny dude but Bale was insanely good. Like really good

[@mackychloe]

it's one of my fav' comedies.

[@Edvinaronson]

It sucked.

[@mackychloe]

@@Edvinaronson teho

[@utryping]

describing ivana as a “bombshell” is a bit of a stretch

[@joeski1073]

So much of a stretch they probably dislocated their shoulder

[@lenkajunova7419]

you have to use infamous 80's metrics - generally bad hair-do's, cringy clothes, obsession with gold and jewellery, strong make-up and all. Standards of almost 40 years ago.

[@MrTJPAS]

That moment when someone has to reupload a video, and you're thinking about whether or not to repost your comment from the first upload because a lot of people upvoted it.

[@TheAshMcG]

Patrick did not hate his friends, he was completely assimilated with them. No personal identity he just wanted to fit in.

[@ajmalahmed9192]

Irony is that "mergers and acquisitions" and "murders and executions" are in a sense of the same meaning. By merging half f people lose job and acquisition will execute the acquiring company.

[@funkytikigod7039]

I've only read the book, but this video made me appreciate it more. Previously I was never 100% sure what it was getting at, and I had to skip the chapters Bateman just talked about music trivia.

[@reneehunt5590]

V for Vendetta: Deep or Dumb?

[@MagiciteHeart]

Its like this movie. It's deep, but has a LOT of dumb fanboys.

[@realar]

DEEP.

[@temple3271]

Jesus Christ I always saw him as Batman and now I just saw him rip someone’s spine open with a FUCKING axe I....I need a minute

[@Jacob-jg6cd]

I think it is also worth noting how obsessed Patrick is with perfection. When he thinks someone has a better business card than him or doesn’t place a cup on a coaster he becomes frantic. It seems that part of his murderous rampage (or fantasy) stems from the fact he can never reach perfection, because perfection does not exist. His constant desire to be better than everyone else fuels his bloodlust.