Witcher 3: Mysterious Quest in Velen [Book References & Cut Content]

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xLetalis

xLetalis

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@ilmentore7
@ilmentore7 3 жыл бұрын
Upon all these details imagine if the game had an extra year or two in developement, we could've gotten Devil's Pit, Iorveth questline and the Wild Hunt attacking Novigrad, would've been actually mad.
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 3 жыл бұрын
don't forget the cut questline involving the Lodge of Sorceresses
@Marquis-Sade
@Marquis-Sade 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the lorveth questline?
@Marquis-Sade
@Marquis-Sade 3 жыл бұрын
@@darko-man8549 Whats that?
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the Lodge was another thing :( Their fate is basically unknown and Margarita + Fringilla have no quests at all
@tobiasL1991
@tobiasL1991 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marquis-Sade Well anything involving Iorveth? I found it really disgraceful he didn't appear in TW3. Really gripes me if I think about it too much.
@landismithCOJ
@landismithCOJ 3 жыл бұрын
"I was in the middle of committing crimes against Ciri". Best way to open the video🤣🤣🤣
@angel8fingers
@angel8fingers 3 жыл бұрын
To right. Pretty epic! (Ciri irritates me in every way possible)
@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s
@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s 3 жыл бұрын
Oh good, cause those who did love Ciri would have chopped his balls like beef.
@-WarCriminal-22
@-WarCriminal-22 3 жыл бұрын
And he actually was committing crimes
@Zireael_1251
@Zireael_1251 3 жыл бұрын
Best way indeed... 🙃
@ipraytovodka
@ipraytovodka 3 жыл бұрын
haha - and his iconic "BUTT"
@khonanfulcher4432
@khonanfulcher4432 3 жыл бұрын
Not even 5 seconds and Letal is already giving in to his inner daugther-selling nature
@themidnightcocktail2003
@themidnightcocktail2003 3 жыл бұрын
Belethor?
@khonanfulcher4432
@khonanfulcher4432 3 жыл бұрын
@@themidnightcocktail2003 Pretty much, he deals more in sisters, though
@Eugine1888
@Eugine1888 3 жыл бұрын
Sad that it’s not triss-torturing nature.
@khonanfulcher4432
@khonanfulcher4432 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eugine1888 Damn
@Elle_Driver
@Elle_Driver 3 жыл бұрын
The plague maiden quest at Fyke Isle is also a reference to the Polish legend about evil king Popiel who was eaten alive by mice when he was hiding in a tower on an island. The original name of the prace from the legend - Kruszwica - is simlar to the polish name of the place in game - Kłomnica.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight! I suppose CDPR loves combining Polish/Slavic stories with other references.
@anda3487
@anda3487 3 жыл бұрын
Ha we got a very similar myth down in southwestern Germany. Except its a tower on an island in the rhine river (said tower still stands todsy, near the city of Bingen)
@piotrdworowy183
@piotrdworowy183 3 жыл бұрын
Please write me the english name of that place- just out od pure curiosity- played it in polish.-please.
@LessbetterJoe
@LessbetterJoe 3 жыл бұрын
also we ve got to mention that this eaten king was so greedy that all peasents around were dying of starvation. Lake sourunding the Tower was called " Goplo". Mice killed him and his family
@paweczyryca1643
@paweczyryca1643 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis 80% of witcher 3 is from Polish/Slavic mythology. Whole heart of stone dlc is based at Polish legend of Jan Twardovsky mixed with character of Kmicic (Olgierd in witcher) from "Potop". Also most of the monsters in game are from slavic mithology :)
@facelessgreen8997
@facelessgreen8997 Жыл бұрын
Finding this video now after Devil's Pit got it's own quest this makes even more sense now. Maybe the guy was briefly influencedby the Red Miasmal and that's why he couldn't die, just like the rest of the plague victims.
@hails.bells99
@hails.bells99 Жыл бұрын
Glad someone came back, just watched this video for the first time after playing the new content and crazy how spot on he was!
@iterationfackshet1990
@iterationfackshet1990 Жыл бұрын
Nah, this was related to the Catriona plague which has been in all 3 games and started at the very end of the Witcher books due to Ciri accidentally bringing the Bubonic plague from our world into the Witcher’s world as she fled the Wild Hunt. The devil’s pit repurposed the original intention and created a new plague that happened in Velen in the 10th century, but the plot was relatively the same just replacing Martin the Nilfgaardian medic with Reinald the Witcher. The Red Miasmal doesn’t spread plague like the plague maiden, instead it feeds off the collective torment of plague victims, which is why it would’ve existed in both versions (probably possessed Martin in the original version). That would also explain the lumps on its body, as that would be similar to the bubonic plague which catriona is.
@medionr3043
@medionr3043 3 жыл бұрын
As a player who likes to think he has done every single quest and explored everything...you managed to surprise me once again, sir!
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
my pleasure :)
@Spinosaurus44
@Spinosaurus44 3 жыл бұрын
True. I have played this quest but I’ve never met the guy again after saving him the first time, didn’t know that was a possibility
@Creecher98
@Creecher98 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I know this one I had actually found though completely bay accident on one of my most recent play throughs.
@masterwitcher317
@masterwitcher317 3 жыл бұрын
Have a list of quest and you'll never missed a single quest.
@dorongrossman-naples9207
@dorongrossman-naples9207 3 жыл бұрын
It was confirmed by one of the developers in a thread on SomethingAwful that this was related to the Catriona plague. Given that, I think it's a safe bet that he was hauling corpses from Devil's Pit. Another fun fact: the Nilfgaardian demonologist was supposed to be working with Gaunter O'Dimm. When the questline was cut, he was repurposed for Hearts of Stone.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@kirakovacs4877
@kirakovacs4877 3 жыл бұрын
I would exchange the upcoming Netflix-based witcher gear dlc for this quest anytime. I want Iorveth in the game. And this quest sounds so amazing, it has so much potential. It's a shame they cut it
@Dianuxkasfenix
@Dianuxkasfenix 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the definitive version they are meant to release was going to have these quests that they didn't develop in the first game. I believe xLetalis mentioned it before but the game was meant to have more quest lines around the Nilfgardian camp in Velen and it didn't. I would understand the delay of the release if the reason was the optimisation and adding of these quests
@kirakovacs4877
@kirakovacs4877 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dianuxkasfenix It would be a nice surprise, but I don't think they will. As far as I know, the next-gen version will only contain the Netflix add-on and some visual enhancement
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there :) and I would too!
@Bjjbhcoa86
@Bjjbhcoa86 3 жыл бұрын
@@kirakovacs4877 What do you mean by Netflix add on?
@kirakovacs4877
@kirakovacs4877 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bjjbhcoa86 They will add Geralt's weapon and armor from the show
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine all the stuff that could've been happening in that place we need a new DLC or something... Also I always chuckle when the guy refers to the corpses as a pile of stiffs
@foxman_pl5914
@foxman_pl5914 3 жыл бұрын
They probably won't do it since only NOW they are doing a new dlc (that is connected to Netflix series). If they would wanted to make it but they had no time before release they would have come up with a free dlc like with the cat school quest or fools gold. Maybe if we actually try to talk with cdpr then something may come out? But they are probably moving now to the new witcher game
@Marquis-Sade
@Marquis-Sade 3 жыл бұрын
The new witcher game isnt enough?
@KHK001
@KHK001 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah imagine if CDPR working on adding all this cut content Iorveth, Saskia... in the next gen upgrade They r taking their sweet time updating Cyperpunk, so they either working on it or already hard at work ''Witcher 4''
@berkeozdizdar2510
@berkeozdizdar2510 3 жыл бұрын
forget about witcher 4 give us more DLC s lol
@sav.perister.354
@sav.perister.354 3 жыл бұрын
I will pay full game price for a DLC like blood & wine. Fuck CP2077
@calumdeighton
@calumdeighton 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew Ciri came to our world. Kinda glad she didn't bring back firearms. Geralt with a pair of flintlocks or percussion cap pistols and using them like Edward Kenway would be a sight.
@Silly_Illidan
@Silly_Illidan 3 жыл бұрын
Or a Apache helicopter...
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 3 жыл бұрын
@@Silly_Illidan Fueled by what? Alcohest?
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
The books don't dwell too much on these parts and I'm glad the games didn't either
@mungo7136
@mungo7136 3 жыл бұрын
There is a mod for the Witcher 3 that brings firearms ... strange thing no-one invented such a technology despite quite advance magic and alchemy. Or they were just not yet imported from Zerrikania ...
@stevenscott2136
@stevenscott2136 3 жыл бұрын
Every king has mages, so a combustion-damping spell would be a top priority for any state facing cannonfire. If damping works better than anti-damping, then gunpowder wouldn't be practical in war, and would quickly fade to a lab curiosity. Alternately, some bit of chemistry might be off in a magic-filled world, sort of like how Harry Dresden interferes with advanced tech, whether he wants to or not. The mage guilds might even have conspired to suppress gunpowder development, seeing it as threatening their monopoly on terrifying long-range blasty effects.
@abdoujabbari5447
@abdoujabbari5447 3 жыл бұрын
Tris being allergic to magic is like a carpenter who is allergic to wood.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
She's only allergic when she consumes magically enhanced stuff, as far as I understand. She can cast spells without issues ;]
@blurryfca3
@blurryfca3 3 жыл бұрын
@Pixel Punisher this comment 💀💀💀
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 3 жыл бұрын
But carpenter occasionally got some nasty splinter.
@andyf1235
@andyf1235 3 жыл бұрын
@Pixel Punisher Not witcher wood anyway
@Silly_Illidan
@Silly_Illidan 3 жыл бұрын
She would make a piss poor witcher
@noahmihic1486
@noahmihic1486 3 жыл бұрын
The opening of this video is further proof that xLetalis is actually secretly Leo Bonhart
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@montblanc6982
@montblanc6982 3 жыл бұрын
Bonhard wasn't even that bad in The Tower of the Swallow, in the Sense that he was no one-dimensional Villain, and had some briliant dialogue like "There are Men coming on Horses." "I would be more surprised if they'd be riding Monkeys" (Don't know if this is the correct Translation) Only in the last book did he became an utter Bastard. A Shame that Yen didn't quite hit where she wanted, but she should have aimed much lower...
@republic0_032
@republic0_032 3 жыл бұрын
@@montblanc6982 But I like bonhart's combat ability at least. Man can go toe to toe with witchers without any mutation, and even killed some.
@arun7998
@arun7998 3 жыл бұрын
@@republic0_032 but it's never revealed how he killed thoe witchers ? He could have poisoned them or crossbowed them for all we know .
@Silly_Illidan
@Silly_Illidan 3 жыл бұрын
@@arun7998 for a class of warriors who's senses are their bread butter, getting killed by an arrow would have been so embarassing
@macgarnicle
@macgarnicle 3 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that the area of Frischlow in southern Velen was supposed to be closely related to the devil's pit.
@macgarnicle
@macgarnicle 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Byways has a Nilfgaard related, higher-level quest suggests that Nilfgaard was supposed to have a much larger presence within southern Velen.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@yaho5785
@yaho5785 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what's your theory?
@macgarnicle
@macgarnicle 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaho5785 Nothing very developed. Frischlow clearly had some deeper plot intended for it. All the piles of burning bodies are pretty similar to those that are burning underneath the devil's pit. Nilfgaard clearly seems to have a hold in the south, south-eastern area of Velen, exactly where a lot of the Nilfgaardian plot got cut from.... But that's really all I have.
@SonGoku-ll5gf
@SonGoku-ll5gf 20 күн бұрын
@@macgarnicle also it had a lot of wraiths spawning there for some reason
@LightningNC
@LightningNC 3 жыл бұрын
3:20 - For witchers, I'd assumed that they were immune to diseases because their mutated physiology was so different from that of normal humans. A virus or bacterium that had evolved to be able to infect normal humans wouldn't be able to infect someone if their body was sufficiently different. For mages, unless the use of magic somehow alters their physiology like a witchers' mutations do, I'd thought that their "immunity" to disease was more of a shorthand for a mage being able to use magic to prevent disease -- either a spell to quickly kill any infection that they might get, or some lasting magical effect to ward off diseases before they can even take hold -- as opposed to an actual physiological immunity. This is all still just assumption, but for Triss, since she talks about being young and inexperienced as a mage, and since she seems embarrassed when Geralt brings up immunity as something that she _should_ be able to do... I'd assumed that Triss just wasn't yet proficient enough in that kind of magic to be able to ward off diseases like a "normal," more experienced mage could. It would be like if you asked a writing student a grammar question that any proper author would know. And you hoped that the student would know it too, given their subject of study. And then they just avoided answering the question. You'd think, "oh, they probably don't know it."
@mungo7136
@mungo7136 3 жыл бұрын
- witchers are puprosely enhanced also in terms of immunity against poisons and diseases - regarding their nature, they would otherwise died of all toxins, viruses and bacteria present in bodies and burrows of their "clients" - bodies of mage are somehow mutated - at least their sterility is caused by use of magic - other side effects are not described. But I thin that i.e. in books someone claims that they can be poisoned - but it was not mage, so it could be truth as well as just another myth about mages
@kubakutyna7633
@kubakutyna7633 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I remember from books, Triss had likely never got through any magical alterations of her body, she was as beautifull as she was naturally. It was very uncommon for natural beauties to become mages so maybe magical alterations were connected with disease immunity.
@Wealily
@Wealily 2 жыл бұрын
Triss was allergic to magic potions. That’s why she wasn’t able to cure herself.
@Evelinaa
@Evelinaa 3 жыл бұрын
12:59 XLetails, as a Polish person I am coming in to let you know about a Polish 'folklore' story. There is a story about a legendary Polish king called Popiel. He was evil and the story goes that he ended up eaten alive by rats in his tower. The whole fyke isle quest is a reference to this story :3
@nicholascureton933
@nicholascureton933 3 жыл бұрын
Is there African people on Polish? I'm an Asian and I'm confused about netflix witcher series. There're a lot of African people on the witcher TV show. I thought witcher is based on middle europe region and I'm pretty sure there is no african people on middle europe in old days.
@Evelinaa
@Evelinaa 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholascureton933 not really, but the show is not produced in Poland is it
@nicholascureton933
@nicholascureton933 3 жыл бұрын
@@Evelinaa No, the show is produced by netflix and they put their own nonsense into the show.
@Evelinaa
@Evelinaa 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholascureton933 They do, some of the casting is really bad
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Your presence is always welcome :)
@starbuck1257
@starbuck1257 3 жыл бұрын
Triss dodges the question because she doesn't want to admit another weakness and she is ashamed. it is pretty pathetic for a mage to not be imune and allergic to magic potion. Since she reaches KM, she admits her failure in Sodden, she failed protecting Ciri and now she failed to not being a burden during their travel. I really see no advantage for her to force herself into being sick, even toward Geralt, It really makes no sense.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
She clearly wants attention from Geralt in Kaer Morhen so I thought it made some sense
@starbuck1257
@starbuck1257 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis I know :) and I know the trend that consist to analyse everything Triss is doing only in the light of her infatuation for Geralt but I don't think it is the case here. When she wake up of the transe, she gave up everything, she won't be able to take care of Ciri because she is not strong enough and as a consequence she told him that it has to be Yen and not her. I think the concience of these weakness is the true dynamic of her character in books. Much more than her love for Geralt. And here, when she is sick, she have to admit once again than, yes, she is not immune, she is allergic, she is not strong as Yennefer or a lot of others mages and that's why she is not so keen to answer. Anyway we have all our views and I love your videos :)
@melodysymphonystar
@melodysymphonystar 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered what was in the Devil's Pit, it seemed a bit too well indicated, with a fast travel post right near it, to be just a den of bandits. Never would have guessed it was fully rendered, and with such... disturbing details. I always thought it was just a circular cave beyond the doors, full of mushrooms and stalactites.
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I've always wondering why there are no quest related to the devil's pit?
@fador1337
@fador1337 2 жыл бұрын
It's such a waste of dev time, though, why finish all the assets for the story line and then abandon it? That dev time could have been used better on polishing the rest of the game as certain parts definitely need it, but no, we got an entire Nilfgardian base and the Devil's pit and who knows what else just sitting there wasted.
@MinorZero
@MinorZero 2 жыл бұрын
@@fador1337 Yes, how weird they couldn't see the future when they started. Why start something only to know you will abandon it later when you know you will run out of time.
@023Whiplash
@023Whiplash Жыл бұрын
@@fajaradi1223 there is now
@longmink
@longmink 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see all the Velen cut-content reimplemented at some point.
@DioDinero
@DioDinero 3 жыл бұрын
Never have I met someone with such a pure dedication to selling Ciri in my life- I salute you
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@vaeirin
@vaeirin 3 жыл бұрын
I've met that guy in my first playthrough i think and it was so sad to find him later already sick, I knew that he's not immune, not in the witcher world, but he was so confident about it. Glad to know that there might be more to the story and that they've actually hid some suspicious things, it's making the wheel turning on in my head, seeking connection, I love it. Thank you for digging that out so cool!
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
my pleasure ;]
@pablochiarelli7818
@pablochiarelli7818 3 жыл бұрын
3:38 ah yes, still a man of culture
@tami3456
@tami3456 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you're always finding bits and pieces of information in the witcher 3 even though the game's been out for 500 years. Love your videos, keep up the good work💜
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
:) I just love it
@michaelnewman7468
@michaelnewman7468 3 жыл бұрын
xLetalis, you need to become a developer for The Witcher 4, you know more about the game than the developers themselves 🤣 👍
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
I could be convinced :)
@SevCaswell
@SevCaswell 2 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis especially as a lot of the talent that worked on the Witcher games has moved on from CDPR!
@jasonjohn3612
@jasonjohn3612 3 жыл бұрын
I just took a look at the books [blood of elves chapter four page 113].Triss says she cant take the magic eixirs she is 'sensitized, allergic' and that she had always been and indeed, it dosen't specify why how or what the cause is.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
She tells Geralt this, yet kinda dodges the question when he asks how come she isn't immune. So my theory based on that is that immunity is not granted by magical potions.
@agilemind6241
@agilemind6241 2 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis Honestly my thought when I read that part of the books is that "sorceresses are immune to disease" is a lie that Yennifer (or another sorceress) told Geralt if he raised questions about STDs given the rampant promiscuity of sorceresses.
@elifriedman8812
@elifriedman8812 Жыл бұрын
Re-watching this video now is interesting since we recently got the next-gen update that has an added quest in the Devil's Pit. Some of the design of the inside of the mines appears to have been changed although I definitely see similarities and the overall layout is probably the same. It's also a shame they didn't find a way to connect the Fyke Isle quest line with the Pesta to this new quest or the quest with that guy hauling the cart, not to mention the connections with the witch hunter Graden coughing.
@Lizodiaque
@Lizodiaque Жыл бұрын
In fact there is a dialogue in the devil's pit in which the red miasme tells you to spare him like you did with the pesta (if it is the case) So a litte connection exists
@jackhanma5039
@jackhanma5039 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of these videos just won't go down
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
why should it :)
@SteezyMPeezy
@SteezyMPeezy 3 жыл бұрын
Neither will Jack Hanmas height
@Didi-yt2uz
@Didi-yt2uz 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, I would so love playing this quest. I know it's foolish hoping they put it in new version, but I hope at least one of mod makers could take this as inspiration. Since I played Witcher 2 I always kinda miss Ioverth in Witcher 3. And the place also bothered me every time! I don't remember how many times I tried to find keys or something to the damm door. If any of you was so sweet and tell me how to get there with commands or different way, you would be so great♡
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
indeed...
@SarsTheSecond
@SarsTheSecond 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis When I played Witcher 3 for the first time I helped that guy who was transporting corpses. I stumbled on his house and found a letter in whitch he wrote about how he infected his own family.
@phoenyxargamella8820
@phoenyxargamella8820 3 жыл бұрын
Another possible cut or modified quest: Love's Cruel Snares I replayed it recently and it just struck me how quick and unfinished it feels. It's next to the cannibal camps, Condyle and the large cannibal camp (where there's a body with the red quest color lying at the center with which Geralt can interact). It feels to me as though this quest was supposed to involve these cannibal groups, but got reworked into what we got now because of time restraints.
@Gregorymiller5
@Gregorymiller5 Жыл бұрын
seems you were right about devil's pit considering the new quest
@Lynv
@Lynv 3 жыл бұрын
Found that guy on the road but never thought I can meet him again, lol. Maybe we have said it thousand times but this game is incredible. Still top 1 after 6 years, above Bloodborne, RD2, or anything.
@powerpcx86
@powerpcx86 Жыл бұрын
Allow me to say that you are the best / most advance witcher channel on KZbin sir
@stc3145
@stc3145 3 жыл бұрын
Man: «Have mercy! Don’t leave me here!» Geralt: «Sorry, got a more important Gwent tournament to win»
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@mungo7136
@mungo7136 3 жыл бұрын
means "I have another participant in it to F***"
@xXXDeadlyHavocXXx
@xXXDeadlyHavocXXx 3 жыл бұрын
On this episode of... "Will xLetalis sell Ciri?"
@cstains5543
@cstains5543 3 жыл бұрын
Actually that "circle thing" in the cave system bears a strong resemblance to several H.P. Lovecraft descriptions of runic gates and runic circles for the summoning of Dagon and Nyarlathotep. Both are "old deep ones" or ancient god creatures from out of the human sphere in that lore and are at least somewhat involved in both deforming plagues and plagues of madness so it could have been some sort of touchstone to include Lovecraftian lore in the game.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Oh it does sound interesting!
@Tacklepig
@Tacklepig 2 жыл бұрын
Nyarlathotep exists in some of Sapkowski's stories (not the Witcher books, but his Reynevan cycle set in the "real" medieval world), so this might be possible.
@ben8929
@ben8929 3 жыл бұрын
It would be so cool if CDProject came back on TW3 and completed all cut content, maybe as part of a DLC... we want Iorveth, damn it!
@NicholasBrakespear
@NicholasBrakespear 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to think there's a chance they'll do this for the "next gen" update that's coming. But I think they'll be too busy fixing Cyberpunk...
@jessel3621
@jessel3621 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Triss' sickness was magical in nature from Ciri's visions that Triss participated in. Maybe it was a magical attack by Vilgerfortz if the first was not possible?
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Were the visions in close proximity to them leaving Kaer Morhen?
@jessel3621
@jessel3621 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure on if the timeline is clear or not.
@MrBay-be5ld
@MrBay-be5ld 3 жыл бұрын
I think not I am reading the blood of elves now and the visions were when Triss first came to Kaer Morhen during her first few days, she get sick when they were on the road after leaving Kaer Morhen which means there has to be at least few months they spend the whole winter in Kaer Morhen
@calonkat
@calonkat 3 жыл бұрын
agreed. She seems to think it's food poisoning or a bug she picked up on the road. And she nearly dies. I don't think she did it deliberately (though she certainly didn't seem to restrain her clinginess during her recovery)
@stefanbre92
@stefanbre92 2 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis just checked the book, she participated in vision on Midinváerne which is winter solstice (dec. 21st), and she says it is the best night for it. They left Kaer Morhen when spring started which is end of march. So it's not from the visions. My guess is that it was dysentery of Paratyphoid fever. Trisses exact words were (in book written in my language): "Cramps Geralt are nothing, but if i get a fever... It might be... Dysentery. Or Paratyphoid fever." First, Triss was the one that suggest that it might be one of those two which indicates that she knows she is not immune to it. When Geralt asked "aren't you immune" she turned around, bit her lip and cramped up even more, and from the way it was written it seems to me that she was just ashamed that she is not immune to it. Before that, she confirmed she was allergic to elixirs, and that she heals herself only using amulets (which she forgot in kaer morhen), and when geralt suggested she cast a spell on herself she says only that she can't concentrate because of the cramps. After Geralt gave her one of his elixirs to reduce cramps, she got a fever. Geralt was hoping that it was an alergic reaction to elixir he gave her (which had a little bit of magic), but he didn't believe it (which means he probably believed that fever is actually because of what she said). Second, this lasted long time in books, since they left kear morhen, then when they arrived at some camp, and later while traveling with Yarpen Zigrin (dwarf). I don't think food poisoning would have lasted that long. Third, in the books, Yarpen Zigrin askes Geralt could it be Dysentery or Typhus, the book states "It can't be dysentery or typhus, Geralt lied convincingly, Sorcerers are immune to those diseases". Reading 'geralt lied convincingly' kind of suggests that it is one of those. Forth, Geralt wanted Ciri to stay away from Triss, but Ciri said that if dwarves and rest of company see that he is keeping her away, they might ask them to leave.
@AnthonyCarrick
@AnthonyCarrick 3 жыл бұрын
That was amazing! I don't know how you even begin to find this stuff. Or cross reference the games and books. Well done. I don't think I even found that quest, let alone would even think to come back to it later.
@shahqurbanbaba1873
@shahqurbanbaba1873 3 жыл бұрын
Holy ravioli! I have done this quest but didnt know that it continues after you burn the cart. Well, thats why we have you xletalis! Thanks
@toyboxlemonza3293
@toyboxlemonza3293 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much for continuing to explore this game, there is so much contained within it's just great to see. I'm replaying it after a few years of putting it down and you just continue to keep me entertained.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
my pleasure ;]
@tam_76
@tam_76 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Triss made herself sick, having your potential lover helping you go shit in the bushes is probably not the best seduction strategy. But she definitely has her eyes set on Geralt. Wow that's a cool cave system. I love the Catriona link. I love all the little connections from the game to the novels.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
That is in the English version as well, what I was more interested in is the part where Triss tells Geralt she may have a certain illness and he wonders how it's possible since she should be immune, and she refuses to answer.
@TrykusMykus
@TrykusMykus 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis It could just be that those are mages' secrets and she felt she already said too much. After all, at the beginning of the story, Triss doesn't really trust Geralt with too much of the truth, she is lost in what she should say in both worlds even in the games. She starts being truthful in Witcher 2.
@Osafune2
@Osafune2 3 жыл бұрын
I'd give anything to help Triss shit in the bushes.
@tam_76
@tam_76 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis Here's the part... “Geralt, the cramps … they’re nothing. But if I run a fever … It could be … dysentery. Or paratyphoid.” “Aren’t you immune?” Triss turned her head away without replying, bit her lip and curled up even tighter. The witcher did not pursue the question. So, she lost her amulet: “I always have been! I can’t tolerate elixirs! I can treat others with them but can only treat myself with amulets.” “Where is the amulet?” “I don’t know.” She ground her teeth. “I must have left it in Kaer Morhen. Or lost it-” * I can treat others with them but can only treat myself with amulets. Imagine that, maybe wizards lie? Maybe it's a misconception that they are immune? Simply that they are able to heal themselves with ease when they do get ill? I don't remember anything being written about Triss being very different from other sorcerers. (Other than her odd allergy) The interesting thing about the amulet, Witcher powers are dependent on their amulets too. But then... Triss does have magic later on when they are attacked. Another reference... “It could be some plague.” The soldier frowned. “Or that, what’s it called … Zintery. If it were to spread to our men-” “She is a wizard,” protested the witcher. “Wizards don’t fall sick …” “Just so,” the knight who had followed them out threw in cynically. “Yours, as I see, is just emanating good health. My theory is wizards heal themselves with their magic, and keep it a secret among themselves. Otherwise, they'd be expected to heal everyone around, like a common human. Can't have that. (Kind of like Geralt's Witcher Code)
@Savvasthekiller
@Savvasthekiller 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis I might be wrong because its been a while since i read the book, but i think she wasnt sick (like an illness), but allergic to magic, and maybe she was under the effect because of the weird interaction she had in Ciri's mind (i really dont remember this detail quite well). Plus Tam B makes a really good point, it is certainly not the best seduction strategy, although (i guess) it can also be argued that its a way to test if he had any feelings for her.
@whatsinaname7289
@whatsinaname7289 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the visuals almost always match your voiceover, and they're all scenes from the game. Using giant Triss when talking about a "larger quest", using the gossiping women from The Witcher 2 when talking about "rumors". You really put a lot of attention to detail into making these videos just as the devs put into making the game
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 2 жыл бұрын
@frogman4700
@frogman4700 3 жыл бұрын
When the Witcher 3 gets a remaster like 10 years from now they should definitely add this quest line in
@SpiderEternal
@SpiderEternal 2 жыл бұрын
And then xLetalis will NEVER sleep again. 😂
@Pereplut
@Pereplut 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it is translation fault but in original polish version Triss could not heal herself with magic potions because she said she was allergic and only thing that works on her was amulets, and she left it at Kaer Morhen or lost... It seem pretty straightforward and not sinister on her part at all.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
That is in the English version as well, the part which interests me is where Triss tells Geralt that she may have a certain type of disease, and he asks her how it's possible since she should be immune... and then she refuses to answer.
@Pereplut
@Pereplut 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis Maybe magicians immunity is achieved by use of elixirs? As far as I know only infertility most magicians get is irreversible physical change and if they stop using potions and spells they would just get old and die.
@luckiller019
@luckiller019 3 жыл бұрын
While I agree that the whole scene is way more suspicious, it just sounds like a droped plotline which can be generally said about book Triss (and I say it as someone who had red books after playing the games and was surprised by how much minuscule role Triss has in the books.) (EDIT:This will get slightly ranty but Im in the middle of my second W3 playthrough and I need to get some thoughts about W3 story out of my system.) Game Triss was always in an akward possition of being pushed into prominence by games despite being just tertiary book character. This is especially noticeable in the finall game instalment. You can tell how much CDPR was looking for to finally add Yennefer into the main plot but like in the case of wild hunt being a main antagonist, they in my honest opinion failed to insert her into their esthablished vision for the witcher world and its state after two instalment. Meanwhile Triss was there since the game one and fully embroiled into its game continuity but like the first two games she has very little to say and do in W3 finall. It is actaully telling that while Triss romance is this casablanca-esque story trying to salvage some game frenchise continuity, Yen romace is just replay of her and Geralt previous love scenes while trying to distance itself from having any impact on the world (cought cought Yen rediscovered a trial of the grass and its never brough up again, like her dealing with Nilfgaard, or her being abducted by Eredin and the list goes on)
@tam_76
@tam_76 3 жыл бұрын
@@luckiller019 Yen was done dirty in the game. She's not nearly as horrible in the books. I don't think the CDPR liked her, they were definitely rooting for Triss.
@speedy7040
@speedy7040 3 жыл бұрын
@@tam_76 well, if you are an adult , it's hard to like Yen. She is pretty horrible in the books too. is just that Sapkowski rooted for her, no matter her actual deeds, and presented the scenes with Yen in an idyllic manner . If you strip all the sugar coating, and just look at the facts , Yen has little to be liked for. In fact , nobody likes her in the books either.
@toncek9981
@toncek9981 3 жыл бұрын
Would be so cool to have all these quests back in the game one day in form of DLC or some anniversary edition. It always seemed to me that the plague was supposed to have bigger role originally, given the Keira Metz quests and her story with Lambert... BTW just for the record, some of the historical "plagues" are indeed considered to be caused by smallpox by today historians.
@John-996
@John-996 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was Just watching A strange man video with all the cut content in Red dead2. These games really need directors Cuts. Unlike Death stranding and Ghost which were just added DLC. It Really does suck knowing That such Good content Gets cut. But They need to please investors And make A profit.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
I must say I haven't analyzed Ciri's sexuality too much but I've had no reason to believe she's anything other than Bisexual
@toncek9981
@toncek9981 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis I agree, although I have to admit that I really don't see the connection between my wish for the cut game content being implement in DLC, plague, smallpox and Ciri's sexuality... In other words, was this answer really supposed to be under my comment? If it was, please elaborate, because I really have no idea what the connection is.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@@toncek9981 oh sorry, TY has been messing around with the comments interface (on the creator's end) and I accidentally responded to the wrong comment! Someone asked me what I think about Ciri's sexuality.
@VanDamnator
@VanDamnator 2 жыл бұрын
My theory on why the guy got sick is either his cart was enchanted and gave him immunity as long as he was close to it, or that when he (presumably for the first time) washed himself on Geralt’s recommendation he ended up being more vulnerable to diseases.
@Alan.DL7
@Alan.DL7 Жыл бұрын
Well, with the latest update the finally used the Devil's Pit for a quest, though not what most would have expected related to Catriona plague but more about "zombie-like" plague :D
@bd145dc
@bd145dc 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much time this man plays Witcher 3 per day.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
The game's been out for about 2400 days and I've played about 1500-1600 hours so it's like 40 minutes per day on average :)
@darkpluto6441
@darkpluto6441 3 жыл бұрын
This is a meme of kind: - How much time do you spend playing the Witcher 3? - Yes.
@senseithomes
@senseithomes 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis you are a man of focus commitment and sheer fucking will
@wildhunt6350
@wildhunt6350 3 жыл бұрын
Im at my 31st playtrough now i don't know how much time i have i don't even care time is a illusion.
@es-rh8oo
@es-rh8oo 2 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis 40 minutes? Is that it bruh I thought you played like 4-5 hours a day
@arneprosen7511
@arneprosen7511 3 жыл бұрын
Damn those new clips you included in to this video are fire.
@arneprosen7511
@arneprosen7511 3 жыл бұрын
Literally!
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@ERRR-bp9go
@ERRR-bp9go 3 жыл бұрын
The thing with the plague maiden and being eaten by rats is most definitely a nod or rather was inspired by a polish legend about King Popiel. He lived in a tower and was eaten by rats
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
There is actually a small section of it that suddenly cuts out and you fall through the world, but lots of it seems complete!
@BreeDragoness
@BreeDragoness Жыл бұрын
I'm really sad about the lack of this questline now
@GrimK77
@GrimK77 3 жыл бұрын
You missed one connection about Catriona. Infected flea that Ciri transported between worlds jumped onto.... large black rat. Alexander, sorcerer who worked on cure for Catriona, mentions in his notes a large black rat that seemed to observe his work, as if it understood what's happening.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@ZertusDarkSun
@ZertusDarkSun 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I love videos about cut content, loose ends, and what could've been.
@FaerieDust
@FaerieDust 3 жыл бұрын
If I ever soomehow got filthy rich, I'd definitely fund the completion of the game - just finish everything that got cut due to time or tech constraints. I've gotten 400 hours out of it already, can you imagine how awesome it'd be if the third act was as full and detailed as the previous two?
@nathanielzarny1176
@nathanielzarny1176 3 жыл бұрын
I spent so much time wondering about in the devil's pit, sure I had missed something! Crazy how much was cut
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
indeed!
@sav.perister.354
@sav.perister.354 3 жыл бұрын
Damn it Letalis... Every time I say to myself that I should start playing some of the other games that I have purchased, but never even installed, you make me ONCE AGAIN want to spend another 100 hours on the greatest game in the world....
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 3 жыл бұрын
Then try to do a speedrun
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
I know how you feel ;]
@elijah_oofoof8891
@elijah_oofoof8891 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@malet727
@malet727 2 жыл бұрын
Woooh, you crossed that door ??? I was so upset to be stuck outside... awesome to see it !
@jessicamueller280
@jessicamueller280 Жыл бұрын
This aged really well considering the next generation update 🤔
@anordinaryguy8121
@anordinaryguy8121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding me once again how cool and caring for details this game is.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
my pleasure :)
@itsmattshankles
@itsmattshankles 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like they filled the cave with Skyrim-esque decor... maybe as an Easter egg after they knew it was cut? That whole Devil's Pit area really feels like a Skyrim "set" to me.
@PrdJane
@PrdJane 2 жыл бұрын
Omg this is so freaking interesting! The cut content and especially Iorweth not being present in the 3rd game is making me scream! The Devil's pit "interior" behind the locked gate is giving me some serious goosebumps. Your videos are super catchy, I appreciate your effort very much. Keep it up! 👍🏻
@ingloriuspumpkinpie9367
@ingloriuspumpkinpie9367 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine in game Doctor figuring out that catriona is not from the continent but from other world.
@TheCoolBeeTVgamesGR
@TheCoolBeeTVgamesGR 3 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that even from just a word you create a whole New subject and think and talk about. Love your hard work
@ciasteczkowypotwor1
@ciasteczkowypotwor1 Жыл бұрын
And here we are - December 2022, quest in Devil's Pit added by CD projekt Red;)
@muhammadhuzaifa7600
@muhammadhuzaifa7600 Жыл бұрын
watching this video after an year when the new gen update has arrived and in it a new quest has been added in the same place Letalis is talking about: Devils Pit and that quest is all about plague infected people and how are some doctors of Eternal Fire were experimenting on them. I'm really impressed by the his knowledge and theories about the Witcher World. He was right before even developers put that quest lol. Hes genius!
@ButterflyManar98
@ButterflyManar98 3 жыл бұрын
Yay a new Witcher video!
@trine9652
@trine9652 2 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this part of the quest with Gert, where he asks Geralt to kill him, today. Its my 5th playthrough (I think, I've lost count) and I can't believe I've never come across it before. This truly is the game that keeps on giving.
@NicholasBrakespear
@NicholasBrakespear 2 жыл бұрын
Just a note - Geralt's use of the term "pox" doesn't need to refer to smallpox. Pox just means... ailment. Illness. In English, it's a catch-all for disease... sometimes even includes curses. As in, "A pox on you!" - being a general insult meaning, I hope you catch something nasty. Anyway, it rather makes me wish they'd ditched the "open world" gimmick and stuck with what was clearly their original design - of having a lot of big free-roam but ultimately smaller zones, accessed via world map (like White Orchard and Kaer Morhen). Because then the game's development probably would have been somewhat easier (compartmentalisation makes everything more manageable, whether we're talking code, quest or level design), and anything they couldn't ship at launch could have been patched in later pretty seamlessly, without worrying about breaking the main maps. Additionally, it would have allowed them to make certain areas as significant in design as they are in lore - Crookback Bog, for example, could have been a zone unto itself, with the task of finding the orphans and the crones something far more interesting than walking towards the only visible structure as soon as you arrive. Similarly, if dungeon areas were zoned off, more time could have been spent making them intricate and interesting, with the developers not constrained by the physical presence of nearby scenery. Oh, and another bonus to returning to the older design of loading screens and lots of smaller zones? Load times would have been way quicker, because you wouldn't have to load the entirety of the Velen/Novigrad map any time you die.
@prasetyod7033
@prasetyod7033 Жыл бұрын
damn, your explanation about devil's pit inspiring the new quest
@BalgaBear
@BalgaBear 3 жыл бұрын
Triss is truly that deeply in love with Geralt? O_O I can only wish
@Yo_AB_Breaks
@Yo_AB_Breaks 3 жыл бұрын
This was awesome. Have you done a vid where you unlock all of the unlockable doors/areas that were likely deleted content just to see what was left behind like you did here? I swear, every time I watch one of your vids, I play the game for 3 or 4 hours that day just checking stuff out. Not that I need an excuse but you definitely keep things even more interesting than they already are. Thanks again.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
:) That's great to hear, no I haven't done such a video... but it's not a bad idea
@Yo_AB_Breaks
@Yo_AB_Breaks 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis Sweet! I hope there's enough content there to get on the channel. Good luck!
@tricwriterr
@tricwriterr 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew you could open that door, awesome. With regards to the mages' immunity though, if I recall Ortolan from Season of Storms also had several illnesses. Could this mean the whole immunity thing is actually overexaggerated? Think I saw it on reddit but one user suggested mage trinkets is what actually makes them immune. The Devil's pit also reminds me of Kaer Amhult in Skellige and Cthulhu, could there be a way to dig deeper there as well?
@tricwriterr
@tricwriterr 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and this got me thinking about Yontek, the one from the Fool's gold quest. You know how he demonstrates magical abilities which means that perhaps he is one of those people Tissaia de Vries talks about, that are born with magic talent but were never taught to use it so it ends up causing them great harm. Then again there is a theory Yontek knew the gold was cursed. Also I think in Blood of Elves it was implied Vilgefortz became a little crazy due to using the element of Fire, meaning maybe mages just have different weaknesses than ordinary dh'oine. Anyway, just sending video ideas your way :D
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
I should make a video about Yontek, been thinking about it for awhile!
@Tacklepig
@Tacklepig 2 жыл бұрын
iirc Ortolan was sickly and aged before the magic against aging and sicknesses was even discovered, so it couldn't be used on him.
@kingsoren2010
@kingsoren2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis l have a soft spot in my heart for yontek he's sweet, honest, and funny. Hate the way his story ended, where could he have gone ?? So I made up a story in my mind that as a baby, he was kidnapped for ransom. Parents paid ransom but the child was never returned to them. One day while picking herbs on the side of the road, an elderly woman was passing by and stopped to get directions to a town that was far away. When he pointed which way was the shortest route, she noticed a famaliar mark on the hand he pointed with. With shocked surprised, she knew that mark.! It was a family tatoo , put on the hand of an infant she nursed as a baby. She asked him where was he from, he replied.." here and there, there and here" with a big grin on his face. To make this long story short, Yontek was reunited with family he never knew he had. He now lives in Novagrad with 2 sisters younger than him, and his mother. Sadly, his father passed away a few years after Yontex was taken. (They are one of the Noble famalies) in Novagrad, and he is so happy to have a family. I see Yontek now and then around the markets and it does my heart good to see him so happy.
@kingsoren2010
@kingsoren2010 2 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis please do, maybe using ideas from my made up story.
@jrodriguez9608
@jrodriguez9608 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I remember running across the guy carting corpses a second time and being pleasantly surprised that it wasn't just a one-off encounter, even if the guys story ended in a... not so good way
@erikgamm8050
@erikgamm8050 3 жыл бұрын
Upon seeing the burning bodies in the Devil's Pit caverns, I was reminded of the similar ignitable piles of corpses in Frischlow (south Velen). I don't think we can ever learn the story of this village over the course of the game. Could it be part of the Catriona line too?
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Could be indeed!
@Ur_Sam_
@Ur_Sam_ 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just mad that cd project cut this good and unknown part
@AdiBSPL
@AdiBSPL Жыл бұрын
Who is watching after next gen update ?
@xLetalis
@xLetalis Жыл бұрын
sadly it's gone for good now ;[
@AdiBSPL
@AdiBSPL Жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis I am playing on next gen update now and I think I met him I'll check later but Im sure they didn't removed it
@AdiBSPL
@AdiBSPL Жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis I have this quest finished on next gen its not gone
@xLetalis
@xLetalis Жыл бұрын
@@AdiBSPL I meant that the old version of the Devil's pit is gone
@AdiBSPL
@AdiBSPL Жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis I thought you were talking about hazardous goods quest
@andretavares5424
@andretavares5424 Жыл бұрын
11:30 - "I guess we may never know". Well, now we do lol. Maybe you could do a new video connecting with this one
@frankstone8930
@frankstone8930 Жыл бұрын
Why not put everything together and sell another expansion? I don't get it.
@denijane89
@denijane89 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I was referred to this video from your today's video and I had no idea there's smt behind this gate. So cool. I wish they finished this questline, sounds super interesting.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@oweno4478
@oweno4478 3 жыл бұрын
Never change letalis, never change
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
I'll try
@TylerTemp
@TylerTemp 3 жыл бұрын
A small fun fact about the first quest: according to the description, Aard sign can put off fire, including fire set up by igni. However, after you burn the car by igni, you can NOT put the fire off by Aard
@PhillyPhanVinny
@PhillyPhanVinny 3 жыл бұрын
It will be so cool if the delay for the next-gen version of the Witcher 3 was caused because they want to add more missions to the game that they cut out such as the Catriona Plague missions that you and CDPR have talked about. I really hope that the Next-Gen version will have more then just graphical updates and that we get a bit more added on in terms of missions. As for Triss I don't think she got herself sick on purpose in the books. Since she is allergic to medical spells/potions she said she uses amulets to protect herself from illnesses. She says/thinks in her head that she forgot her amulet at Kaer Morhen. If she was just trying to get Geralt's attention she could have done that so many other ways. And ways that would be much more attractive to Geralt then her needing his help to go to the bathroom which I think she would just see as embarrassing. Also I think she would have at least brought the amulet with her if she was just trying to get sick to get Geralt's attention to protect herself if she really needed. For example she fears she may die from the sickness in the books and also she could have died when they were attacked my the Squirrels as well. If she had brought the amulet with her she could of just pulled it out and healed herself so she could help fight off the Squirrels when they attacked the Dwarves carts Geralt, Ciri and Triss were traveling with. So I do think she just forgot it at Kaer Morhen and that is coming from someone who always picks Yennifer over Triss lol. Lastly I have a video idea for you. Maybe you could talk about if you think Ciri is straight, bi-sexual or a lesbian in your opinion. I see many people argue about this constantly on the internet. Though something I notice they always forget is that Ciri says she has her first orgasms when having sex with the Elf King. Which is weird if she really liked Mistle that much (as a lover at least) that she would never have a orgasm with her if she really were a lesbian or even bi-sexual. I think at a minimum Ciri is only bi-sexual since she has obvious attraction to men throughout the books while only having attraction to one woman in the books. And that one woman (Mistle) it can be argued took advantage of her and tricked her into a relationship that Ciri didn't really want. Evidence shows for this in the books in that Ciri constantly doesn't want Mistle touching her until their last night together when Ciri plans to leave her and the Rats behind (I hate the Rats and how they change Ciri from a innocent little girl into a murderer). It seems to me that Ciri is more the victim of Stockholm syndrome during her stay with the Rats. She thinks everyone has abandoned her so she does anything she can to be able to stay with that gang (the Rats). I think this would be a good video topic to talk about now before Ciri gets with the Rats (probably in season 3) in the Netflix show. Based on how the show has done things so far I have a feeling that the show will make Ciri a exclusive lesbian (not that there is anything wrong with that). But I do think it goes against how Ciri is in the books and for what people argue about her on the internet.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't spent too much time analyzing Ciri's sexuality, but I've always assumed she is Bisexual
@PhillyPhanVinny
@PhillyPhanVinny 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis Yeah, if you google it you'll see lots of Witcher fans arguing back and forth on if Ciri is straight, bisexual or gay. Seems like the most major Witcher discussion you have not yet covered yet. Though it may not be a KZbin friendly video as well I guess. Just an idea there I was throwing out for you man. Keep up the great work. Can't wait for Season 2 of the Witcher show. I guess you will be doing a lot of videos on that when it comes out as well.
@xh7385
@xh7385 3 жыл бұрын
0:43 that composure and gait are super hilarious.
@LegatusLigeratus
@LegatusLigeratus 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the corpse hauler: I think he was just naturally resistant to diseases, as some humans are in the real world. It would explain why he was unaffected by diseases as a lad but couldn't stop getting infected when literally having plague filled corpses on top of his head. His natural immunity could also explain why he didn't die as quickly as a regular person but stayed alive until Geralt finds him again. Simple explanation but sometimes that's all it is!
@willlasdf123
@willlasdf123 3 жыл бұрын
Dude looking like he's trying to get that Herman Cain award!
@elizabethalderman8749
@elizabethalderman8749 3 жыл бұрын
I have a sneaky theory about Triss’ illness. I think she CHOSE not to go through all the mage enhancements. The books never state what they all are - women are typically made more beautiful and sterilized but the immunity to disease could be either a further enhancement or a direct result of how powerful a mage is. Triss in the books is strong but not as experienced. Maybe when she was taking care of Ciri she left her self vulnerable by depleting her magic? Her refusal to answer might have been her unwillingness to admit she had skipped the immunization and thus was actually at risk of death by stupidity
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
heh, could be the case
@arcturusblack03
@arcturusblack03 2 жыл бұрын
every stage of this video kept blowing my mind! my mans videos are too op
@vivaosantos
@vivaosantos 3 жыл бұрын
triss as gorgeous as always
@Panzer_the_Merganser
@Panzer_the_Merganser 3 жыл бұрын
3:38 Ah thank you for shedding some light on the assets.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
@ashleyien1222
@ashleyien1222 3 жыл бұрын
Concerning Triss being sick, I got the feeling that mages weren't really immune to illness, it was just something people believed (perhaps the mages themselves spread rumours) sort of like Witchers are unfeeling monsters. Rumours that they'd prefer not to correct. Perhaps they kept illness away/ or treated it using magic potions, potions which Triss can't take. I don't think she would have made herself sick like that to get close to Geralt. I wonder why they cut the quest. Why didn't they add it as DLC if they already had the location and everything. I'm sure people would have paid for another DLC.
@Zhentarim
@Zhentarim Жыл бұрын
I believe you already know, and maybe it's too late for you to see, but in the mission "Precious Cargo" if you deliver the Temerian bandit to the Nilfigardians they talked about the soldiers being sick, probably part of that bigger arc that would have to be done
@morganrose7022
@morganrose7022 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a theory that the real Triss died at Sodden Hill and the Triss we know from the games and later books is actually Coral pretending to be Triss.
@SImrobert2001
@SImrobert2001 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any evidence that supports this, or is it just people saying random things?
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've mentioned it briefly in a video or 2, I might discuss it at length at some point, but I personally don't think it's true. Strongest argument against it imo is that it's basically pointless. Coral has no clear reason to assume Triss' personality, she achieves no significant goals as Triss, and everything that Triss does in the books is after her supposed switch, so why bother at all.
@morganrose7022
@morganrose7022 3 жыл бұрын
@@SImrobert2001 Triss was badly injured at Sodden Hill and Lytta died so the theory is that the healers got them mixed up and restored Lytta using Triss’s facial features but kept her hair and eyes which is why book Triss has chestnut hair and blue eyes while game Triss has bright red hair and green eyes. It also explains some seeming inconsistency in how she acts toward Geralt before and after Sodden Hill. Most notably re this video it explains the time “Triss” was suddenly sick as Coral having used an alchemical mixture (which she is allergic to) to remove a tattoo that would’ve identified her. Still I agree with Letalis that the missing ingredient is why Coral would do it and I definitely don’t think it’s the intended plot of either the games or the books it’s more just a fun “what if” fan theory.
@Kibatsume1
@Kibatsume1 2 жыл бұрын
@@morganrose7022 the issue is translations weren't exactly that good when The Witcher originally came out .the reprints were never corrected. According to the actual book writer she is supposed to be a redhead.
@Philipp2968
@Philipp2968 3 жыл бұрын
Please don’t ever stop making Witcher Videos!!!
@alexandereichenschild102
@alexandereichenschild102 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think mages are immune because the mage hen gedymdeith died on a heart attack so the body of mages isn't "stronger" them the body of normal people like by witchers the case. I think that in the witcher world the people believe that mages are immune because they can heal the most illness with their magic.
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that makes sense
@toncek9981
@toncek9981 3 жыл бұрын
well one thing is being immune to gradual degradation of body (which if I recall correctly they are not, unless they drink some special potion) and destruction of body (which they are definitely not) and other thing is being immune to diseases, which they should be. I guess the using of magic probably doesn't enhance their bodies but somehow boost their immune system or something, which may be also connected to mage's infertility or even Triss' allergy to magic potions...
@russellwatkins854
@russellwatkins854 Жыл бұрын
My head cannon says that mages in the Witcherverse use magic rituals to protect themselves from various types of diseases and afflictions. Meaning there is more than one magical protection they cast on themselves. And, unlike a witcher's mutations, they are not necessarily permanent and require some upkeep. Some may last longer than others and such, but it probably a bit like "taking their magical vitamins" or some such. One of the reasons I have this view is some info in Alexander's notes (the guy who was researching the plague in the tower on Fyke Island), He talks about fearing that the had not kept up with this magical protection against the disease because he thought he might have gotten sick.
@Gwynnbleid95
@Gwynnbleid95 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt Triss used sickness to seduce Geralt, in the books there's not alot of other info on it so that's just an assumption. Also Triss isn't allergic to magic, she's allergic to glamour, thats why she doesn't use it and doesn't need to as her beauty is real whereas all other sorceresses are ugly hunchbacks like yennefer😂
@shahqurbanbaba1873
@shahqurbanbaba1873 3 жыл бұрын
Team yen will assemble against you shortly😂 Edit: also what is your source to she is allergic to glamour? I cant recall glamour ever being mentioned in witcher books, games or even tv shows
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Triss is allergic to digesting magically enhanced substances (aka potions/elixirs). Don't recall her being allergic to glamour. And it wouldn't make sense for a 50-or-so-year-old Triss to look the way she does in Witcher 3, or to be described as a Teenager 10 years earlier in the books
@Gwynnbleid95
@Gwynnbleid95 3 жыл бұрын
@@xLetalis i think my reply didn't go through. it specifies in the books that she is allergic to glamour and her beauty is real, if i remember it is early on when andrej introduces/describes Triss. I swear no one properly read the books😂 the amount of people that think geralt is in love with yen or that Triss is somehow not a good character is hilarious
@1957DLT
@1957DLT 3 жыл бұрын
I've helped that dude a few times in past plays, but I would never think to wait several days and go back to look in on him. He was always, to me, just random short quest on the side of the road dude. Sheesh, I should know better by now. The Devils Pit secret area though, that was a real surprise. I always thought of the Pit as that place to go knock out several combat achievements. lol. Well done with the mystery, XLetalis.
@SharkVaderYT
@SharkVaderYT 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible they reinstate this quest in enhanced edition?
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I doubt it :(
@arun_m_nair
@arun_m_nair 3 жыл бұрын
So this is the whole story! I never got the first part of the quest (saving him from the monsters) in any of my playthrough, but, I somehow got the second part, and I was so confused since I never knew the whole story.
@speedy7040
@speedy7040 3 жыл бұрын
my understanding is that mages are just humans that use magic, and the usage of magic takes it's toll from their bodies, GRADUALLY . So , older they are , more usage of magic , more mage like - immune to certain spells, immune to diseases , not aging in the same way , unfertile ... Triss is kind of young for a sorceress., and kind of week at that point of the story , from magical point of view... and I think she is embarrased to admit it to Geralt. And you have to remember, Geralt's mother was a sorceress ... so there ARE exceptions...again , probably she got pregnant during her training at Aretuza, when she was not a full mage ...
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 3 жыл бұрын
That's not how it works though. We know that magic users are born sterile. We also know that they are stoping their aging themselves and it is not a side effect of their magic. It is a direct effect of their own actions.
@speedy7040
@speedy7040 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamilszadkowski8864 so how did Geralt-s mother got pregnant if she was born sterile ? And why is everybody after Ciri-s potential offspring , if she is sterile ? she IS a magic user ....
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedy7040 Because some magic users in rare occurrences are not sterile. Vissena was one of such rare cases.
@speedy7040
@speedy7040 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamilszadkowski8864 And Ciri ?... ..nope ...it makes no sense ... if they are truly BORN STERILE, don't you think the Lodge WOULD KNOW IT ? .. but they still want Ciri's child ...Vilgefortz too ... and the elves, who know everything about genetics and magic. and if Vissena was such a rare case, don't you think her genetic would have been a TREASURE to the mages ? you think they would allow her offspring to be just a mere witcher, sterilized by the trial of the grasses ?!...have you ever heard of Lara Dorren and what ppl did to her for her genetic heritage ?! But , instead, Vissena is just a low rank mage that nobody heard about it ...and her kid is not ever going to have kids of his own ....Yeah, right. and you are wrong about the aging too, because you are shallow and belive aging is about your wrinkles . The mages use spells to LOOK younger , but they do not use anything to LIVE MUCH LONGER then the average human. But they do live for hundreds of years . And Triss DOES NOT use spells to change her looks. And she still looks a lot younger then her real age . They just do not age like humans do.
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 3 жыл бұрын
@@speedy7040 Ok, first off, DID you even read the books? Because from what you are writing here my guess is no. "And Ciri ?... ..nope ...it makes no sense ... " --- It is never explained why carriers of the Hen Ichaer are not sterile like all other female magic users. It may have something to do with the fact it came from elves. "and if Vissena was such a rare case, don't you think her genetic would have been a TREASURE to the mages ? " --- The opposite. Tissaia de Vries was calling for the sterilization of all young adepts of magic to avoid them having offspring which usually ended up insane. "and you are wrong about the aging too, because you are shallow and belive aging is about your wrinkles" --- Oh, so now you are calling me shallow? Real mature. Asshole. "The mages use spells to LOOK younger , but they do not use anything to LIVE MUCH LONGER then the average human. But they do live for hundreds of years " --- Wrong again. Sorcerers and sorceresses were using the alarun decoction to stop the process of aging. It was invented by the sorcerer Ortolan by the way. "And Triss DOES NOT use spells to change her looks. And she still looks a lot younger then her real age ." --- Pfft. Then provide me a quote that proves that Triss does not alter her appearance or doesn't stop her aging. You are rambling and speculating yet you treat your own phantasmagories as some divine truth. You should become a priest... or better yet a woke activist. You are just as self-righteous as they are.
@mikberga550
@mikberga550 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: “peste” is the word we use in Italian for “plague”. “Peste bubbonica” is “bubonic plague” so the name “pesta” is very similar to “appestata” which means affected by the plague. This is another clue enforcing your thesis about the wraith and the mage studying the catriona plague! Great video as always man 💪🏼
@xLetalis
@xLetalis 3 жыл бұрын
interesting ;] thank you
@NicholasBrakespear
@NicholasBrakespear 2 жыл бұрын
Peste, as in pestilence. Common latin derivation, "pestis".
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