Witcher: Nightmare of the Wolf - Movie Review

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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex review Netflix's Witcher Spin-off starring AngryJoe... I mean Vesemir in Witcher: Nightmare of the Wolf! Is it worth a watch?
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[@Dovahninja]

Netflix asked the question: "So how many kids you wanna kill in this thing?" and the Director answered "Yes"

[@YouTubeCensors]

Bout time, making up for them Skyrim kids cuz I play on console.

[@WillieHoule]

netflix loves killing them and sexualising them lol

[@juantony]

@@WillieHoule I wouldn’t go that far. They still don’t like the mythical European culture because…white people, which is a bit racist in logic sense. So they put out mixed race from all over the world so that people can feel special, and a modern day American culture as well. A minor error in my opinion, but it is a good movie.👍🏼

[@makairidah8354]

The movie was awesome but i feel the stories should have had been made into its own trilogy that way we could see in more detail the han solo phase of vesemir and how the fall of the witchers came about in more detail

[@CrowAtNight]

Agreed. It doesn’t feel like a 3-act structure. It feels like they instead took parts of the 3 acts, threaded them together and went with that. I loved the movie, but it did feel like I got dropped in the middle of an ongoing story

[@makairidah8354]

@@CrowAtNight literally everything during the fall of khaer morhen feels rushed AF, i feel it would had been better to make this an introductory story for a trilogy instead of what it seems to be a really comprised adaptation of a book

[@2cents4u]

It could be. Because they introduced all the Witchers that Vesemir trained at the end from the school of the Wolf. They could tell the story of how each student went on to different Witcher schools or their journeys as friends. Geralt saving Lambert and showing how he got his iconic face scar and such.

[@edsonsengo2684]

I agree. It all went by so fast that it had no weight to it. I literally felt nothing for the death of the characters because of the pacing in which this was going through. But the animation though...

[@gingerbaker_toad696]

Either that or they could have at least make it longer, but hopefully they can make a second and maybe even third part of the entire backstory of the rest of the Witcher School up until the books and series begin

[@skjaldulfr]

A few criticisms: 1. The crossguard on Vesemir's sword is backwards. It would restrict his hand's range of motion, and frustrate his swordplay. 2. In prior lore the Trial of the Grasses is the actual administration of the witcher mutagens to the boys. It's this stage of the witcher-creation process which kills the majority of the candidates. After the Trial of the Grasses, the survivors who already have the advantage of the mutations, go through further training involving monsters. It only makes sense that the successful candidates are then awarded their witcher medallions. But in this show the boys are all given medallions before they are witchers, and are dropped in a monster-infested swamp with 0 tools or defenses, to be randomly slaughtered. This cut down the candidate-pool by some 80 plus percent for NO REASON. That's dumb. 3. In prior lore, the sacking of Kaer Morhen was undertaken by an angry mob, with the assistance of mages. There is no mention of monsters. In this show, the angry mob wants to sack Kaer Morhen because the witchers created more monsters. The mob's motivation is its antipathy towards monsters. However, their mage leader brings a swarm of monsters to the battle, and the peasants charge in alongside said monsters. Comrades in arms. That makes no sense. That's dumb.

[@AztecUnshaven]

On your point #3, I would say the old saying, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" applies...

[@Tyanus2]

2. I would explain it through other Joe's comment that they have too many witchers. They can't say we can't accept you because there are not enough monsters because if that information would spread then people would lower prices for witcher contracts or start to question the necessity of witchers, they have to accept them but even the Trial of the Grasses is not enough to lower their numbers and they are not as bad to just kill them so they made even more brutal and otherwise ridicules trial. It would fit nicely to the overall story making witchers even more evil and desperate in trying to hide their monster problem though is that what really is going on? Unlikely.

[@markusbisma5015]

I agree with number 2, it's way overkill.

[@thats4thebirds]

A mage helping the villagers with monsters makes more sense than a bunch of villagers beating an entire group of Witcher’s imo

[@lytherael2309]

I don't think the crossguard would be a big problem. It's not angled downwards enough to really get in the way except for some really specific moves that can be easily adjusted to fit the guard. If it had spikes, or a more aggressive angle or curve, I'd fully agree, but I think they can get away with that much. Note, yes, it's still a shitty crossguard that wouldn't catch another blade from sliding down unto the wielder's arm. But disturbing the wielder's movements are the least of its problems imo.

[@RS-kt6bo]

Vesemir looks like Adam Jensen without the badass futuristic shades.

[@darthcinema4262]

But he has a cape. Edna: "No capes!"

[@joe74509migo]

He never asked for this

[@landlockedcroat1554]

thought that too i never asked for this remove random crits

[@butterflymage5623]

Agreed

[@knightslayer6161]

DAMN Ik he looked so familiar. Couldn’t put my finger on who it was.

[@anthonyargueta131]

I thought the film was pretty cool however an issue I had with it was how OP the magic signs were. Aard and Igni were like completely different attacks. In the games and books, Aard is like a push but in this film its like firing the kamehameha. Atleast it looked really cool

[@Tigatron1448]

I thought the same thing but didn’t mind it due to the route they took artistically. The animation was sick and I think they simply did that to make it look cool and fit in with the anime style they went with.

[@farbod21]

Not all witchers are equal when it comes to their magical signs. Geralt is actually very average with signs. Eskel and apparently Vesemir are much stronger with signs.

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

Also while I've only played the games, they're relatively short range. You might get a few meters in front of you but that's it. Aaard is a powerful windblast that as you said is mainly about pushing, while igni is fire but it's more like a quickly dispating wave or cone in front of you, that's good for lighting a fire without a flint stone or taking advantage of something with a weakness to fire, but it's not going to be a Witcher's primary form of damage dealing. A Witcher uses his swords and whatever other tools he can get his hands on that might work (because sometimes an axe or a chain might work better than slashing with a sword).

[@River-pg1uk]

not to mention the signs reqiure specific hand movements even a broken finger could stop them for working nevermind being a bloody amputee.

[@CaracuSC]

@@farbod21 did you get this information from the books? I'm currently reading The Tower of Swallows (MILD SPOILERS TO FOLLOW, read at your own risk) and the only things I've read about signs in the series (the previous 5 books) is that witches like Yennefer think of Witcher signs as a nice party trick but uses a ver small amount of power derived from Chaos compared to what actual witches can do. But I haven't read anything saying that Vesemir or any other Witcher has better use of signs that Geralt. If anything, Geralt has a unique advantage of being the son of a witch/sorcerer so he has an advantage over regular people to become a powerful sorcerer, according to Vilgefortz. Nevertheless, I would like to know of you have some information I may have overlooked. Thanks!

[@DamascoGamer]

The thing that made no sense whatsoever is the ending fight where peasants fight alongside monsters... Like, for real? There's no way in hell that a peasant would just accept a fucking man-eating monster to help them kill witchers. Yes, it is creative liberty, but there's also the question of disbelieve when it comes to such things. Other than that, good show.

[@YouTubeCensors]

Agreed, I'd have been like 👀 alright I'm out of this crap fest. No way I'm fighting on the side of real monster summoning sorceress. Unless they were bewitched by that mutant.

[@jakub7244]

there is multiple things that didnt make any sense ... but if you ignore the books its not bad movie.

[@xenoplayz4524]

Its a major flaw for sure. Its why i question joes 9/10 for this for me it was enjoyable to watch but not close to perfect give it a 7/10

[@ma76em49]

I mean, the peasants probably think Tetra has it all under control, and after the first 15 minutes of monsters slaying witchers they prolly went "Welp, they ain't mounting our 'eads on them claws, so we be safe to kill 'em mutant freaks."

[@TacticalDimples]

Tbf tho, the peasants wouldn’t have had a chance at beating the Witcher’s. It would’ve been a one sided massacre. While the whole monsters teaming up with humans was bad, it gave us some crazy action and a fun finale.

[@el_martinez3275]

Yes!!!!!😂They brought back, “ Do you wanna play a zombie game?”😂

[@thegreatresetofthehumanrac664]

Dying Light 2 is going to drive him insane

[@MrTheSmokinman]

Shit is played out honestly.

[@reasonjefferey4644]

@@MrTheSmokinman that’s the whole point lmaooo

[@reasonjefferey4644]

@12canadianboy12 ooooh big boy with big sense of humour okay... comedy police fuck outta here bozo lmaoo

[@alexsilva28]

@12canadianboy12 Imagine watching AJS and not liking overplayed stupid jokes lol

[@Deadzonex21]

I like how Joe is cosplaying as the mother of dragons Daenerys Targaryen lol

[@MrMorkh]

In books actual monster fighting trial comes after mutations. And i think both killing monsters and just running away counts towards passing grade which is survival it's touched upon in the game if you quest around Kaer Morhen.

[@asuicidalclown]

*Let all their kids, who haven't even gone through the mutations, walk around a haunted swamp completely unarmed* Netflix Witchers: "WhY So MaNy kIdS DieD?"

[@RavusRiven]

This actually makes more sense 😂

[@kuroichiro8422]

It works either way. Read up on your spartan history. There are several cultures where young boys are sent out as a testament to strength and adulthood if they return. The same applies here, the strongest are the ones who are chosen. Either way works just fine and makes sense

[@hotpocketH]

It's like the Griffin School which sounds the easiest to me. Just rehearse an entire history of over having to fight a Griffin for its egg? Yes please!

[@slavj]

That's true. I have posted this before, but will explain why I think the trial with the boys in the swamp is actually more sinister than it appears. It's not a "training" exercise... It's a feeding session. Remember at this point in history the Witchers were making monsters to stay in business. These monsters need something to feed on. Early in the anime a comment was made that the abandoned boys were a dime a dozen, there was no shortage of candidates. And the Witchers already had a good idea who would survive and die. So the surplus was just food for their beasties that they raise each year and release for jobs / coin. Is it stupid to train new Witchers this way? Yes. But remember, these are Vesemir's memories, and he had no idea about what was really happening. So it is a filtered view. However, it's a pretty smart way to raise monsters... Given no one would mourn the missing boys or call contracts for them.

[@romank5823]

The animation was great, but the "pogrom" that is described in the books has been fully done by humans with the help of mages who wanted to get the Kaer Mohren secrets (the mutagens). That was the whole purpose, to show how mob of humans driven by hate and superstitions could defeat all of the genetic modified monster killers because of the greed of mages who helped them sack the keep by blowing up the walls and helping with fighting the witchers. Now, by adding this monster stuff, and witchers causing the problem for themselves because they've created hybrids, it makes this story much more shallow in my opinion. Not to mention it doesn't make sense at all, that the same humans that hate witchers and calling them "monsters" would just stood and watch a horde of other monsters summoned by the mage who led them there.

[@nothingtosay2288]

Yeah I'm with you on this one.

[@kingunderthebarrel3925]

omg finally im not the only one!

[@ma76em49]

I would say it makes a lot more sense that a bunch of humans and mages would win against witchers in their own territory with the help of monsters. Its the other scenario that makes little sense, because there is no way they took down multiple witchers on their own. And of course they stood by and watched monsters be slaughtered by monsters because to them, the witchers are being killed by the monsters they created. Beautiful Irony.

[@bartoszn1609]

@@ma76em49 Do you think some random peasant gives a sing;e fuck about irony? To them they just suddenly see monsters, not even the mutated ones for the most part, suddenly fighting ALONGSIDE you.

[@ma76em49]

@@bartoszn1609 Didn't see any of them declare a nekker their brother, so I don't see what's the problem. Its an enemy of my enemy situation, Tetra is a well reputed (or reputably skilled) sorceress and it isn't out of the question that she would have monsters enslaved to her. They are fucking peasants, they don't give a flying fuck about WHY monsters are helping so long as the one at the helm is a human and the ones they are attacking are witchers.

[@maxjax977]

I imagined it as Vesimir retelling the story while drunk a few years later. That's why it's so over the top and makes no sense in certain places... Vesimir is just like "and then I killed 20... No, 30 basilisks singlehandedly as I jumped from their backs while they flew 1000ft into the air!".

[@VoyagersRevenge]

The iconic wig 🥲 I love anything Witcher

[@parallax7789]

Even the Author?

[@jasonzaragoza9413]

@@parallax7789 if not for the author there'd be no witcher

[@Undertaker606]

@Todd Packer Auberon is better

[@Foxfire_forty-nine]

What about furry Witcher

[@Revan-eb1wb]

even the horrible show??? ufff

[@highluffy]

I think Kitsu is only mutated with a monster called "Mahr", not many monsters genes like you said. Mahr is the monster that posessed the woman, Vesemir's lady master in the beginning of the film. Delgan was specifically finding a Mahr for mutating Kitsu. He suspected Vesemir and Illyana in the market. He knew the stuff they were buying, were remedy for a patient who suffer from Mahr.

[@AztecUnshaven]

The cameo of Filavandrel was dope! It was cool that it shows that he's been around for a long time... and it sounded like they used the actual live actor to voice him too, which was a cool touch.

[@jarosaww2825]

as Witcher addict, amount of inconsistencies with lore considerably diminished joy of the movie. I get they needed to make it flashy and slashy, but lot of charm of wither ip lays in grounded mechanics, which is ignored A LOT, some of it in games, where compromises had to be taken for player's sake, much more in show, but this one is written like some kind of fanfiction. I want more of the IP to reach mainstream, just...

[@flexmusi]

The lore inconsitencies kills me no mention of the conjunction of the spheres monsters now apparently came from sorcerers batteling elfs and they created witchers to kill monsters. signs way to op and why just not stick to the original lore of the reason for the sacking of kaer morhen being racism against witcher the whole monster subplot could have been skipped and the movie would be better

[@jezzmaninjapan]

Totally get it man, it just kept piling up. Minor stuff at first, but by the end (the Sacking) I considered this more of a fan fiction. My main gripes: - Vesemir says "They've sent Lambert and Eskel to scout ahead" or something like that. Lambert and Eskel are younger than Geralt. Lambert is the youngest one iirc, so he wasn't even born at the time of the Sacking. So unless they're talking about a completely different Lambert and Eskel, it doesn't make sense. - Witcher signs are too powerful here. Witchers aren't mages and they can only perform rudamentary spells via HAND signs. So the dwarf shooting magic with his stump isn't really possible. You can't melt a whole lake with igni. Aard looks more like a Kamehameha (sometimes) than a force push. - Like Alex said, the whole cooperation between monsters and normal people is kind of bullshit. It's hard to believe that this is how the Sack of Kaer Morhen went. At this point in the movie, I started to consider it more of a fanfiction than actual lore. I don't know if Sapkowski signed off on this, but to tell you the truth, I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I don't think he really cares anymore. As long as he gets a paycheck, he's fine with anything. Once again, the movie is great, but I guess that's what happens with the stuff I love: I get critical about it. That's also why I dislike the Netflix series. That just threw away Witcher lore and made up its own, with magic eels and a Yennefer that's obsessed with pregnancy.

[@phoenixj1299]

There is no better source than the witcher books to quote the inconveniences. The movie doesny even have inconsistencies with its live action counterpart unlike the books. It's absolutely inconsistent,stupid to think bunch of peasants can defeat group of witchers.

[@jarosaww2825]

@@phoenixj1299 errr... ok but remember how Geralt died.

[@casual1118]

@@jezzmaninjapan honestly the signs arent really a problem to me. It made the scene look awesome with sweet effects, and they also had to get every witcher to stand next to each other to cast that giant ward sign. So its not like they have that at their fingertips constantly.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Honestly, Netflix does make some good anime video game adaptations I mean Look at Castlevania, can’t wait for DMC

[@brandonmoya3322]

Wish they’d do a Dark souls

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

@@brandonmoya3322 I mean Castlevania creators want to adapt Berserk as well so Dark souls might have a chance

[@johnny05100]

Castlevania was surprisingly good

[@RexTiredAF]

Had no idea DMC was coming!

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

@@RexTiredAF The Castelvania Producers said something about DMC being adapted and they also want a berserk adaptation

[@DreadfulDisaster30]

Eh, great action and voice acting, but the mage didn't need to dance to do her magic but that's a minor complaint. It felt rushed, it was more action focused than it was story focused and so I was a tad disappointed.

[@jmr5792]

It felt really rushed. I wish they had turned this into a series instead.

[@DreadfulDisaster30]

@@jmr5792 oh man a series would have been amazing and set just the right pacing.

[@brandonontama2415]

I agree.

[@Brekner]

Yeah the fact that the humans were fighting alongside the demons was so dumb, really ruined the whole movie for me.

[@dr_cachetes6822]

So my understanding is: witchers get kids when the client has no coin, and Deglan says "it is just a numbers game" or something like that, maybe he throws the kids in the swamp with monsters cause there are too much witchers now, and very few monsters (so much that he starts making some)... hence "just a numbers game"

[@David-nq8cv]

The swamp part is BS. And Witchers wouldn't make monsters

[@cathulionetharn5139]

"law of surprise" when you go back home the first thing you see, you have, that you didn't know you have, you will give to me. witchers don't make monsters, mages on the other hand...

[@TharusPSN]

The show changes lore. 7/10 Witcher die to the mutation process not being dropped into some swamp with no weapons in some idiotic test. Then the mages that create Witcher’s and monsters in the books never care about or listen to the Witchers. But it’s still an enjoyable show.

[@jamespaul6315]

@@David-nq8cv it was a few corrupt witchers not all of them. Remember as well this is a different take to the games and books.

[@dogsbreakfast4952]

@@David-nq8cv an evil one would

[@arkwhite23]

I will be honest, as much as I love the film and the first season of the Witcher, I think the main issue for me is the creative freedom it has taken with the lore to the point where it breaks it. I would recommend reading the books and playing the games before watching the Netflix Witcher franchise.

[@CPTZK11]

I definitely won’t take that recommendation if it means not enjoying these AWESOME animations and series like you aren’t. I’m loving it, it’s amazing. I can tell it is meant to be longer but there is a time limit clearly given to them to tell the story

[@ThisGuysMason]

@@CPTZK11 you could enjoy way better witcher media and then come back to admire the pretty effects

[@BUSSTISEBOOST]

I definitely should give the books ago and actually sit down and play all 3 games one day.

[@nimsay3531]

While animation itself was generally ok, I really didn't like how they twisted original story. You have an established fanbase with esbalished expectations, and instead of giving people what they want, you take characters, main plot point (destruction of Kaer Morhen) and rewrite the story around it completely for no apparent reason. The original story was actually good enough for the cartoon. So those changes are annoying. The plot in Nightmare of the wolf is quite simple and predictable. And it does not leave you with better understanding of the witchers, how they are created, why they tend to be emotionless and so fond of doing anything for coin. I feel like it could have been explained better.

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

In regard to the recruitment, consider the mortality rate of the various trials. The Trial of the Grasses generally kills at least one or 2 by itself and together with the various other trials and the mortality rate of even fully trained Witchers Would be not too high but still enough for already small numbers to dwindle further. The ones who enjoy a long life like Geralt or Vesemir are incredibly rare.

[@pnutz_2]

"and how many of the survivors were dead within a year, killing drowners at 50 orens a head?"

[@SG-qg2pg]

It was hinted at that the red swamp trial was purely to reduce the amount of potential witchers. When Vesemir asked: “How many survive these trials?”, Deglan answered: “Depends, how many are witchers?”.

[@Jokingskull99]

I liked it, but I have a hard time buying that this character is Vesemir

[@alialkhamis9058]

In regards to the witcher trials, it was Vezimere's mentor's way of training, and Vezimere was suppose to change this. Which is why he told Vezimere to make better men towards the end. Basically, his way was wrong to begin with.

[@Darkvortex11]

I liked the movie but I thought it was a little unfaithful to the lore. All of the Witcher signs were super overpowered in the film to the point of being mage tier magic. Like Vesemir's Igni was a massive explosion.

[@KirihitoSan]

"a little"

[@maulressurected4405]

I felt the same way I liked though, Eskel and Geralt weren't there and Lambert is younger then both of them. I disliked bald Geralt. I'm not an expert into the lore outside of the games but it's clearly stated in them Eskel and Geralt were in the same class of witchers and Lambert was in a later class.

[@henrivahakangas2858]

all the combat was over exaggerated

[@RoastedJustice]

The animation and voice acting were great. I just wish they would have made the fight scenes more grounded like the source material instead of completely over the top anime nonsense and explosions lol. Just because the movie is anime styled doesn't mean it needs to play out like The Witcher Ball Z

[@SG-qg2pg]

I disagree. If you’ve read the books, Geralt often moves faster than the human eye can see and also some mages like Vilgefortz enhance their bodies as well. The Geralt vs Vilgefortz battle is very similar to the Tetra vs Vesemir fight. The signs were too OP though, but that’s it. There was a fight in the books where you read out of Cahir’s perspective and all he sees is limbs flying. If they did this in the games or live action series it could look stupid so I understand if they don’t do it this way.

[@mr.crowgamer6250]

Completely agree ! To overdone

[@mr.crowgamer6250]

@@SG-qg2pg idk man don’t get me wrong loved the watch but fighting was abit meh.. Witcher magic was abit op even just for a Witcher I agree with u there

[@SG-qg2pg]

@@mr.crowgamer6250 the signs absolutely, but for the rest I think it’s fine, or atleast not more than the games. In the battle against the wild hunt Yennefer also created a huge barrier and Triss rained down fireballs, so I don’t think it’s very different from what we’re used to. I personally even think the live action series magic is too weak and “espensive” with them needing life force to use meh spells unlike in the books where they draw from a hidden source called chaos. I understand it’s for budget reasons and clearer magic limitations, but still.

[@sir-dolphino]

The animation and voice acting were the only good things about the movie

[@nugking2021]

The point you can make to shut alex and other Joe up is that at the start they said lost a dozen witchers just this week and obviously there’s no monsters around Kaer Morhen it’s the witcher strong hold, so obviously people would skeptical of them, the more you branch out and travel they’ll be more monsters

[@joeyfigueroa4748]

Listen to Vesemir's Trial. Its his theme in the movie. You'll like the music more.

[@RatusMax]

I won't lie to you, I saw a clip of it passingly (auto play) and and thought it was a fan made joke of putting adam jensen into the witcher series. Then I found out it was real.

[@Zenioul]

There is a logic behind Tetra not going full on mage powers during the final battle with Vesemir. When Vesemir exits Kitsu's illusion, he actually enters Tetra's illusion (or it's just another level of Kitsu's illusion). He sees his friends escaping, but that's not the case since he actually kills them all during the fight. She is toying with him, and he's probably actually fighting the Wolf school mage and other hostages she had. They don't understand why Vesemir is going all berserk on them, but try to defend themselves.

[@Noobphobic]

I really enjoyed the film, I would highly recommend it for both Witcher fans and those who are new to the series :D

[@alekdoesvideos]

Witcher fans wouldn't enjoy this trash. Fans like Joe maybe. Who haven't read any books from the Witcher series.

[@Azakadune]

Original fans of books would not like this show, it doesn't even do the sacking of kaer morhen correctly.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

@@alekdoesvideos spoken like a true chad. Cheap animation is cringe

[@giantdad6487]

@UCQTiaHP3vdp6adJqLB-MV2w the animation was 10/10 you idiot

[@Azakadune]

@@alekdoesvideos Joe is a casual fan, nothing more. Its what netflix witcher is made for, the casual fandom.

[@gphjr1444]

Mischievously smiling kid Geralt is prime meme material.

[@AleHernandez]

Enjoy it very much but with the exception of the Lore smashing, Kids do the Trial of the Grasses and then the survivors do the training, When they Train Ciri they explain it, she was all the way into training with out the Trial of the Grasses because They cant do the mutagens no more, and she was a female, they just did what they can do, train her all the way without the Trial. Also didn't like the fact they make Kaer Morhen the ones behind the new monsters, The sack of Kaer Morgen was supposed to be result of the ignorance and hatred, no with probable Couse. They should make the Mages be the ones behind it and maybe just Deglan finding out and keep the secret for the sake of his way of life. and Maybe Vesemir as the sole Witcher survivor of the attack then go and kill the mages responsable for the creation of the monsters and their Lab. but not making Kaer Morgen the ground zero for monster creation it feels too dam wrong.

[@Mayihavesomeoats1886]

The monsters were the result of the event called The Conjunction of the Spheres, basically kinda to do with the planets lining up (or realities)and portals going haywire which results in random beings getting transported to different worlds. But other than that you were pretty spot on. They really try to blame it on Kaer Morhen?? Havent watched the animation yet because of the bad show, was wondering if its worth a watch

[@dblundz]

So weird seeing bald Geralt lmao

[@FritzFoxPirate]

Garalt: "I am a very tall midget"

[@SourRobo8364]

I'm just happy to see Studio Mir doing more projects. Such a great studio.

[@luca_lwls]

The exact day the witcher came out, Netflix had deactivated my account bc of some payment issue and they still haven't activated it again, hardest week of my life

[@Jacob_Tribal]

A scene where the humans in the final battle questioning why there fighting along side monsters would of helped alot. Humanz "We'll not fight alongside these monsters witch!" Mage "The monsters tha witchers help create will now help destroy them." Humanz "Sounds reasonable."

[@thatrandomderp]

Enjoyable watch, but I didn't like how illogical the final act was. Having monsters alongside humans didn't make sense, and Kitsu's layers of illusions were hard to follow.

[@pedroloera-marin348]

I mean honestly seems more believable to kill them because a bunch of peasants and a few mages vs witchers....yeah I'd say they needed the monsters

[@artorius4809]

My only real problem with the movie was the humans and monsters fighting together rather than the humans running away

[@DamascoGamer]

That's the biggest mistake in the movie for me. You'd have to completely disregard everything you've known about the witcher universe and how the common folk ABSOLUTELY hate anything different (elfs, monsters, mages and even witchers) so the last fight would just... work.

[@MicahDarkFantasy]

It’s a great return to the Witcher universe, I had a great time with this!

[@adamryan6915]

The iconic phrase "Wanna play a zombie game?" makes its glorious return. lmao

[@0verWay]

Can't wait for the Dying Light 2 review to bring back the actual reference of Joe playing a (hopefully good) zombie game 🐴

[@ReuvelMusic]

I was certainly entertained by this one, loved the animation and the action. The story was fine and I liked the exploration of Vessemir's past

[@Luis-jn7qu]

Alex doesn't realize that Vesemir didnt fight tetra at all that was an illusion so that is why the "tetra" AKA the illusion was fighting with arrows.

[@username7735]

OJ and Alex are making good points. This is a decent anime.. but it really has nothing to do with the actual witcher story. It's fanfic basically.

[@Pokerface-tr1ds]

Uncle Vesemir is a badass in his own right and it felt good to see what happened to the Witchers in Caer Morhen and how Vesemir survived.. buried under corpses. So.... a witcher's life is not all cards and liquor... but also wooing the damsels :)

[@donaldbell2554]

I liked it was disappointed how they didn't really follow the books but still liked to see it on screen

[@Cwronaga216]

I like how they seemingly used the exact same voice actors from the Castlevania series which were great by the way

[@ShootAUT]

It's not perfect, but definitely a nice build-up for Netflix' season 2, to explain who Vesemir is, where he comes from and what he is to Geralt before the show starts in December. I think it takes a bit of pressure off the Netflix show and answers a few questions beforehand, so they don't have to cram _all_ the backstory into a hand full of episodes.

[@Hatorimus]

Umm, Vesemir didn't fight Tetra at the end, he was fighting his mage friend. Kitsu used mind magic on Vesemir so he saw his friends as enemies. That's why "Tetra" didn't use those awesome fire magic and only used a bow and portals. The mage was fighting his friend and wasn't trying to kill him, only to stop him.

[@flydungas]

This feels like watching someone rave about Picard

[@Alfonso88279]

Tetra (however it's spelled) was right after all, and her story is tragic. And even then, she appeared to be able to forgive them, if all of them were like Vesemir. There was hope, in her eyes. In that movie there are only one character that is not grey, the old lady. All the others are incredibly grey which feels fascinating.

[@dblundz]

The games and books describe the training/ trials better. The training in this show as like "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a dodge ball" There's monsters but not enough. It's the law of surprise, when people can't pay. As well they mentioned they lost a lot and that why Ves had to train that winter

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

IKR! As much as I loved the animation and action, I felt like the training scenes were just weird and unexplained. Like, why would you send a bunch of scared kids into a monster-filled swamp at this stage, where they barely know how to fight or do anything? It felt stupidly wasteful rather than necessarily brutal & realistic to raise tough witchers.

[@altavspace9847]

Geralt suffer a hevy beat up by Vilgefortz, when Geralt and Vilgefortz finally found a moment to fight one-on-one, he wiped the floor with Geralt, using his silver mane as a mop, so Tetra using a Bow is little op xD

[@Jacob_S13]

Wouldnt call it a rly bad beat, and he was probably one of the very few that could actually beat him... Most mages would get smacked

[@af1carter]

Vilgefortz gave Gerlat the business. Vilgefortz was built different. Very few people can do that to a witcher especially Geralt.

[@shadowlinkbds]

I actually didn't even know about this. Better check this out since I do love the Witcher. Btw excited for Netflix Witcher series season 2 coming in December.

[@YouTubeCensors]

Thanks! Don't keep up with release dates, even for shows I care about. Figuring I'll find out by word of mouth before it drops.

[@RealMemphisTrap]

I love Witcher live action (I have never in my life been a Witcher fan btw) but when you watch the anime it makes the live action look sub par!!!

[@pftburchell5197]

The only thing I had a problem with was the Witcher’s scheme. If there’s lack of work, why create stronger monsters for you to fight & put yourself in danger? Historically, when soldiers have nothing to fight, they become mercenaries. I mean, a Witcher could probably decimate a large group of humans.

[@David-nq8cv]

Yeah in the games Witchers from school of the cat became mercenaries

[@pftburchell5197]

@@David-nq8cv So was this just poorly written then? Or is this how and why the school/home of the Witcher’s was destroyed in the books/games & it made more sense there?

[@David-nq8cv]

@@pftburchell5197 Poorly written and took many creative liberties. But yes many Witchers died and Kaer Morhen was attacked because of angry peasants and mages there was no Tetra or monsters involved. Also in the books and games Witchers would never create monsters

[@pftburchell5197]

@@David-nq8cv How about sending the kids to die with basically no training and no weapons?

[@remidee7276]

besides the choice of hair cut I really enjoyed the origin story. Overall it was a great movie and I hope they explore more Witcher stories in the future.

[@saucymcrib4047]

Yeah the haircut was a bit off huh

[@sir-dolphino]

This was a terrible origin story and overall a terrible movie

[@soul2928]

@@sir-dolphino damn

[@saucymcrib4047]

@@sir-dolphino maybe for the book fans ive never read them but playing the games got me somewhat into the lore and watching the netflix adaptation got me more into it. I say it was fun and full of action and depicted the witchers as how I feel i see them as, monster slaying mercenaries who don't care about morals and just want sum coin

[@ChilledMango]

@@sir-dolphino hard disagree. 10/10 watch and I can’t wait for more

[@bigdaddy2706]

Im with Angry Joe on this one. Getting to see Vesimer go from being a young selfish loner into the leader of the wolves was great to see. And the Geralt easter egg at the end was terrific.

[@Madame702]

Big Daddy let me ask you something. Why is it with these kind of shows these characters never consult a map??? It like they have built in GPS in their heads or something. LOL😁

[@Madame702]

I mean if you are in Cintra great were is Cintra is it in the mountains is it on the coast, is it near a haunted forest?

[@elliotwatson3964]

Alex is great. He speaks alot of truth when it comes to these reviews. But I feel he gets snubbed when he speaks. Alex should make his own show

[@Ronfost89]

The thing that bugged me was they kind of messed up by putting Geralt in the story as he wasn't around yet and Lambert was younger than Geralt and also now around yet.

[@David-nq8cv]

Actually Geralt was already in his 20s on the path when it happened which it got completely inaccurate

[@MrVad3r]

i wasnt a fan of netflix witcher series and lately everything they touch seemed to be pretty bad at good story telling. they seemed to have lost the whole point of witcher in the netflix series as there is no true good or evil and its just perspective etc.. the subtlity was gone especially with that butcher of blaviken story line etc. its like they dont trust audience to get the message.. they gotto tell us who is bad and who is good that i feel is bit insulting. wondering how this anime is in that regard? is it worth it for people looking for good story telling? or is it just big spectacle with no meaningful story?

[@David-nq8cv]

Book fans don't like it

[@DamascoGamer]

If the movie was more grounded and made more sense, I would definitely recommend it. But I have to say no. Over the top anime action scenes, lots of plot holes and things that make no sense, and not being accurate to the source material at all. It's a 5/10 max. The animation is pretty good, but the choreography doesn't suit the witcher fighting style.

[@lokilalisan7078]

"The kids that ran away become witchers" I kinda understand why. Those that didn't hesitate and ran trusted their survival instincts.

[@David-nq8cv]

The swamp part completely uncanon

[@dangelforever690]

EIther thats some great perspective, or alex is like 4 feet taller than other joe lol!

[@efesezer3058]

they are the exactly the opposite in terms of numbers. Alex is 6'5 and OJ is 5'6. İ know this because everybody keeps asking the same height question every friggin stream on twitch, so much so that Alex sometimes says stupid numbers just to mess people thats how he is fed up with the height question :D Addition: Oh yeah and AJ is 5'9

[@dangelforever690]

@@efesezer3058 nice lol

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. A few things didn't make sense like the peasants being ok with monsters fighting alongside them. I also thought the second part felt rushed. Other than that the animation was good and action scenes quite impressive.

[@ReaperOfLuigi]

The biggest problem with this movie is the power they gave to witchers like Vesemir using igni and he casts a giant flamethrower of an cast, with that power 1 kingdom would only need 10 witchers to conquer another kingdom.

[@0000mot]

Most monsters are human. -Geralt of Rivera

[@tzviru]

honestly, that wasn't Vesemir, even Geralt can't fight against tens of monsters and blast fire like a mage

[@JohnnyFamas139]

So many people aren’t getting the trail in the swamp. Its about the will power to survive. Vesemire literally jumped off a cliff to survive. It’s like when some people in second and third stories jump off burning buildings to survive but break their legs and other bones. Or when a wolf gets trapped in a bear trap it’ll chew off its own leg to survive. If you don’t have that will power your not gonna survive the Mutagenics.

[@David-nq8cv]

Yeah but that trial isn't canon and it should've happened after the trial of the grasses

[@mid_knight4940]

So nobody is gonna talk about how he has a sofa outside his house

[@austin.....]

in socal we got mfers with straight entire upholstered living rooms out in their backyard. perks of never raining I guess...

[@davidbodor1762]

26:00 - About the training, my headcanon is that they used a much more brutal/stupid version because they already had too many witchers, they wanted to weed out a lot of them. Maybe they believe that they're going to be weaklings anyways and only the best should even get the chance...

[@CrowAtNight]

This movie is the fusion between Invincible and The Witcher and it's great. I hope they make more content like this.

[@rizzz___]

It is in no manner bad, but personally i don't really like it. Kinda weird to see Vesemir and some other witchers animated and portrayed quite too "expressive"-ly while in the lore it should be less so because of the trial (which i think the game and the live action does better). I'm familiar with Studio Mir's previous works, they've done superb animations, but i think their style not quite work that well here, i think they could've done better in amplifying the dark and grittiness in their designs and shadings. Overall, 6.5/10 for me. Note that it is NOT A BAD ANIMATION, it just what i feel personally.

[@leonardocruz6715]

Running is also a form of survival, Alex and OJ are just bummed because cardio is a no at the angryjoeshow 🤣

[@TheScrubNubb]

They reveal at the end in dialog that Vesemir is the one who paid the cook to swindle the priest and his actions created the monster that Tetra is.

[@darthcinema4262]

I thought Nightmare of the Wolf was awesome and despite some issues, I had fun watching it. Hope the same people get the chance to make a Doom anime at some point.

[@potato_god_03]

I agree. A Doom anime would be very dope! I hope they get the same animators from the Castlevania series!

[@Docmain3]

Remus died in season 1 in the meat locker.

[@jefferysavage4946]

Was worried we wouldn't get this review haven't seen them say anything about the witcher not even the new season did they say somthing on stream

[@byronjones4635]

I think Alex missed, it took time for Tetra to use her advanced magical powers. Vesemir is fast and it would take too much time for her to use those abilities against him.

[@SoldierSpiderx]

I like how Tetra looks like a cliche hot sorceress, you'd think she'd be Vesemir's leading lady. Boy, was I confused when she turns out to be unbearable and satisfied at her death

[@isa2758]

why tho? she got gruge about witchers and was proven right at the end lmao

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

Lol, I felt like Tetra was a karen that needed to be stopped. A hypocritical & bigoted karen that would scold you for doing wicked things while doing more or less the same things-against you, if you cross her.

[@David-nq8cv]

@@isa2758 Clearly you don't pay attention to the books/games because she was spreading Anti-Witcher propaganda and the Witchers creating monsters and the swamp is only a Netflix thing

[@isa2758]

@@David-nq8cv yeah and we are talking about character motivations in this movie, and witchers action from this movies, what's your point?

[@David-nq8cv]

@@isa2758 Yeah which I disliked how loosely faithful it is to the source material

[@StrongOaker]

Dont bother reviewing Humankind unless you want to be ANGRY at bugs and glitches that make save games invalid, units that get stuck not moving and then you go to load an autosave for it to say corrupt. Already several patches since launch and still glitchy af

[@luisotavio7859]

It's a cool watch, but the story telling is terrible, they decided to use illusion as well in already badly explained motivations and twists. 6 or 7 is a deservable grade, Joe is clearly buyest because is Witcher stuff.

[@BossTripp1]

AJ i’m with you… The quickest way to expire as an organization is to only recruit when you need numbers. Especially, when it’s not guaranteed you’re going to get people. Plus if they recruit 100 kids, 5 may survive. So adding 5 to their ranks is not horrible.

[@CaptainMauser]

6.5 out of 10. Felt more like an average Castlevania episode.

[@pandapancakes37]

I agree with this my thoughts exactly.

[@elgatobravo360]

With regards to the training.. I got the impression that the part where they were left in the forest was simply to kill them because there are so many orphans being handed to the Witchers, and if every orphan survived then there would be no need for Witchers cus they would obliterate every monster out there. It would of been so much better if they made a series of this to go into more depth as to why they do everything they do

[@unitfour24]

We need a Aliens Fireteam Elite review

[@kevinmillerwaynejr5852]

He Already Said He Is Gonna But It’s gonna be a lil while

[@Bdizzle-tm6bt]

It’s up

[@エル-d7e]

I Would buy that Shirt “ Do you wanna play a zombie game?” if i could

[@Supaawesomeification]

The magic thing IS the bottleneck in the lore. The trial of grasses (those mutagens and magic and all that stuff) kills 10/10 girls and 7/10 boys

[@Erunest]

Not true. There are actually schools that have female witchers

[@theaveragegamer2821]

@@Erunest their trial is also different too

[@Supaawesomeification]

@@Erunest true. But that’s only because of other schools who have different methods. Like the Cats who… well they don’t really have rules. They do whatever they want. The Wolves and their Trial of the Grasses, which is what we’re talking about here, don’t make female Witchers. It’s been specifically stated they’ve tried and it’s never worked. That’s also part of the reason why Ciri was never made a real Witcher, though she is one in every other way

[@Erunest]

@@Supaawesomeification just imagine how strong ciri would be as a witcher

[@xcaluhbration]

Tetra was a Bowmaster, Uber mage, Kung Fu specialist and sword fighter. Good lord

[@frankiecamacho6232]

I like how you reading the thousand sun's codex hope to see you play a game with them

[@konradpietrzak3842]

The Slaughter younglings on swamp was beacause there was too much witcher. If witcher are to small, then they skip this part. Vesemir: How many people survive this Deglan : It's count, how many witchers are for this moment

[@irgendjemand1265]

Why would a Witcher Anime movie be given to a director obviously unfamiliar with the topic? Why would a Witcher Anime movie be given to a writing staff obviously unfamiliar with the topic? Why would a movie about Witchers be made which paints Witchers in an unfavorable light? Witchers have hunted monsters to the point of extinction, therefore threatening their livelihood? C'mon. Why would Vesemir loot a dead body for payment when he was not under contract, and then refuse the child help because he's not under contract? Why was Geralt bald as a child? Was it for the ol' switcheroo at the ending? Pretty sure we all saw it coming a mile away. Why would the Witchers go to all the time and expense in trying to create cross-breed monsters when they could just mass produce regular monsters? Why would the Witchers throw untrained, unmutated children into a swamp for the trial of the "grasses" and THEN mutate them, possibly causing death. Why did the summoned monsters not attack everyone? Surely if there's a trick to controlling monsters it would be worth more to the Witchers than just making more. Why did a Witcher allow himself to be held down and beheaded? Why was this movie even made?

[@lightbearer6644]

When you become a hardcore critic, you somehow forget how to just enjoy a game or a movie.

[@chrisk5837]

I love the books and the games. This movie was almost completely non-canon. This is just bad written fan fiction.

[@oscarfc1993]

It’s canon to the live action Witcher series.

[@chrisk5837]

@@oscarfc1993 The only thing canon to the live action were the non-cateyes, nothing else.

[@chrisk5837]

@Mar Wolfking The games are a very faithful and respectful continuation of the books and considered by many canon, officially they are not, according to Sapkowski.

[@Halo3VT]

Man I miss 2015 where I kept rewatching Joes Witcher 3 Review and playing Witcher 3 at the same time. Its been 6 years already... man time is flyingg

[@MoDuZzz]

You need to do signs with hands to do magic, 0 of which was present in the movie. Its the lowest level of magic learnt by witchers to come clutch, since most of them hate magic (involuntary transformation and all that).

[@DarthBerial]

Coming from somebody who's listen to all of the books and each book run between 8 to 12 hours and it's eight of them the trial of grasses is never really explained. It's all left to interpretation, the only thing we do know is that they do inject them with concoctions. So what the director of this anime did is quite fair. Also when it comes to the signs the hand movements and gestures makes the spell more powerful it's sort of like an incantation. And also when it comes to being a Witcher is having really high mortality rates because of their expertise so that's probably why they were recruiting so many kids because they die so often. Another thing the trial of grasses is a 1 in 10 chance of survival so they bring a lot of kids to make sure that they at least get one Witcher out of it.

[@dblundz]

Was really good! Hope they do more! Like maybe papa Ves raising them and training them

[@fatallyfatcat5274]

I need a 100+ episodes series of Vesemir playing dad

[@benbro4074]

I guess joe forgot about bad batch entirely

[@maximtcaciuc2904]

Lorewise is just a mess, it doesn't feel like a story taking place in the witcher world at all, there's no way this can be considered canon. All the rest, the animation and the VA, was awesome. Though it seems that we'll never get lore accurate Witcher series and movies from Netflix, but hey at least we're getting something that's good at a technical level.

[@Lordoziom]

The guy casting aard without his fingers... I guess witcher signs are just a very primitive sorcerer's spells so he could potentially get a mage to teach him but that would involve magical talent and a lot of time. And a mage willing to teach him.