That Time We Broke Up... Twice

[@kilimanjaro5537]

“A good man is a man who is led by the Holy Spirit.” Amen, Preston.

[@heather851]

So good

[@WanguiMichelle]

Amen❤

[@kayflwr1239]

!!!

[@klinadee]

😮‍💨

[@richeallily3664]

that got me too! way too deep!

[@evelynfrederick]

I love y'all. "I'ma keep pursuing you." May every woman get to experience that type of love. So sweet

[@turklatasha191]

Amen

[@drippedinglory]

Amen. Because he knew 1000% beforehand that Jackie was his wife

[@Heythere2810]

@@drippedinglory that’s beautiful. It true what they say that a guy knows when she’s the one.

[@sylviacarter6733]

Amen I agree, Especially for my Grand-Sugars ♥️

[@aaliyahd5303]

As long as its consensual cus that can get really creepy really fast

[@startdontstop1]

"I don't think I went to God... I went to my thoughts" - - is all of us at some point.

[@annabrignoni1562]

I get this

[@lizcharisddungu566]

so familiar

[@MAE-nm2tl]

Yep. Looking back…at my 23yr self….I realize how I was totally not in the frame of mind that had God first. Now…the 53yr self… finally! Finally putting Him first. Knowing what the protection process has to be to keep Devil out-&recognize it is what it is… no joke k? 🫶🏻

[@attorneyyaidaford]

His pastor stewarded their courtship and relationship. That's what gave Preston the courage to stick around even when she rejected him.

[@zyleymacruz333]

Wow I love this

[@just.laur3n]

"People don't care what you know until they know that you care." That's a word🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@thatgreenguy9657]

It's is i had to text my fiancée about it I was so moved I had to share it

[@a_d_a_e_z_e]

You heard that too!

[@nicoled8440]

Girrrrl, I played it back IMMEDIATELY when he said that!

[@Adayinthelife1201]

That word hit me at my core. Wow!!

[@kamila424]

Yeah that hit different, Amen!

[@rakaiyapeterman6942]

The revelation behind this comment “I wasn’t able to see you for who you really were until I led you with love” was beautiful

[@PURPLE_ROSE.]

31:37 Preston: "A good man is not a good man in & of himself. A good man is someone who's being led by The Holy Spirit." Great quote❣✝️👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯🔥

[@CoachTaraTucker]

Love that! 🎉💯

[@preciousolea]

PHEW!!! This needs to be a T-SHIRT

[@delorespaigerichardson3365]

#PROFOUND

[@faithmatthews830]

Such a powerful statement but you can also plug in a good woman, a good son, a good father, mother even a good leader such as President, king etc. etc. Wow!!

[@henriettacarter1028]

I felt that when Jackie said “I didn’t have a Dad to teach me how to receive love from a man”.

[@MiloMyriad]

Some have dads who barely showed them what love is , man who would rather drink than spend time with their children.Men who beat their wives and called them names.

[@StopLyinToUs]

​@@MiloMyriad there mothers pick pookies and ray rays , that what they thought real men are!

[@Mrs.WordSmith.GEN_8zero]

Ditto there! And I came from an “ intact home” vs other reality of options BUT the equivalency of neglect & abandonment STILL manifested emotionally & spiritually…. Those emotional /spiritual Bonds of relationship were Not cultivated , they were left to themselves = abandoned.

[@meiyaslaughter4944]

it’s so funny because Jackie appears to be so hard on the outside but Preston makes her all mushy 🤣🤣 i love it

[@LuvKitKatt]

crazy right!?😳

[@abby999]

i hope for a love like this

[@jazmyngreensberry8935]

A literal match made in Heaven and it gives me hope 😂❤

[@hzlil1]

My husband and I just celebrated our 35th anniversary. I thank God it was a happy time. The past 6 years have been the worst of these 35 years. I'm speaking for myself. It wasn't till I started to truly pray for him, show him true respect, and truly love on him that our relationship is changing for good. Marriage is hard. Being selfless is a struggle. But God!

[@marloflowers7648]

Preach Marriage is hard it's not for the WEAK, thanks for sharing These last three years have been a struggle me as well we've been married for 28yrs. And together for 30 years I've been really trusting God

[@t.santana1771]

Thank you for this

[@DMGDwelling]

Yes! Praying for another softens the heart

[@Foreveradriennexo]

Amen ❤🙏🏽

[@winteradunn4377]

This comment is everything.

[@emmanuelardama]

There were moments in this story where I was like ‘those are definitely some red flags.’ I think a lot of times we see red flags in relationships and quit so it’s amazing to see how your faith in God helped you to get beyond them.

[@bykendrajo]

The red flags might be THE BLOOD!!!!! Amen!

[@khroniclesofkoko]

​@@bykendrajo😂😂😂😂😂

[@semmi98]

This is way too funny. Those red flags are a change to call upon the Blood! Because it deffo needs help @@bykendrajo

[@que_fela]

@@bykendrajo🤣😭makes sense!

[@Vhhandle]

😂😂😂

[@shervonne_arts]

Pause, 33:42 “There’s a difference between hard things and toxic things!” 😮 I want to thank y’all for being so open and transparent. I am a newly wed and I have to admit that I was a little afraid going into it because all I heard was “Marriage is hard” “Marriage is hard” “Marriage is hard” And that shook me…I started to get frustrated and think like what does that mean??? You mean I’m going to have to deal my husband doing any and everything just because “marriage is hard”??? I wanted no parts. Lol. Then I got married and my husband, I mean I could not have imagined him up, I mean I had a list 😅 but God exceeded my expectations 🙌🏾 Anyway, I decided to take notes on what was hard so I can explain it to others who may have the same question. This is long so I’m going to only mention one. I came into the marriage with a daughter who really adored him, but didn’t know how to embrace him. She lost her biological father at age 5. We stated dating when she was 9. So I was all she had and she didn’t want to lose me. So as she saw him getting close to me, she wanted to reject him, even though she reeeeaaally liked him! It was crazy. So I saw his heart break over and over again, and him being patient, and kind, and loving, and now they are inseparable and now she prefers him over me! Which I can handle that. Lol. But our family is so blessed! But THAT was hard. 😣 So there’s a difference from dealing with hard things in marriage versus toxic behavior! Thank you for putting words to my thoughts. 🙏🏾 Praise God for you two!

[@esthera3883]

Girl, this is great, share the rest of the hards pls because we all have the same question! ❤️🙏🏾

[@ayezichi]

Thank you so much for sharing this 🥹

[@sanctifiedsessions3518]

Thank you sm for sharing. Sometimes I fight for things that are toxic not things that are hard so seeing a clear line for the first time is so refreshing ❤️

[@shervonne_arts]

@@ayezichi you are so welcome! Be encouraged 🫶🏾

[@shervonne_arts]

@@sanctifiedsessions3518 yes!!! A clear line! I was so happy to hear Jackie say that! 🙌🏾🙏🏾

[@evandertheconqueror1983]

God told me she was my wife, and tild her I was her husband, I pursued her, we broke up. Its been 3months now.... please pray for me family 🙏

[@tawandagchiweshe3709]

We are in this together brother 💪🏾

[@keke7085]

the friendship part of marriage is so important! I think many do not realize this

[@princesskinuthia8788]

This!

[@IBeJay859]

Super important...I agree

[@samerah]

There is so much emotional intelligence & respectful engagement in this dialogue. Love to see it☺️

[@justsobritish]

Okay. I know this podcast is about your relationship and breaking up and whatnot but... Jackie, you worked at Wendy's for 6 years? That's what spoke to me. I keep on trying to fast forward to where I think my ministry should be. What job I should have by now. And here you are growing in discipleship and love for the Lord whilst working at Wendy's. That's shifted my perspective about the goodness of God. Thank you 🙏 Continue...

[@Gadites1Chronicles]

Perfect example of love keeps no record of wrong; in spite of the pain Preston felt, you still loved Jackie and made up in your mind you're still gonna marry her. Thats beautiful love which is a gift from GOD!!!

[@authoranitadavis1205]

"I don't think I went to God, I think I went to my thoughts" ~ Jackie. Sheesh!! I've been working on this.

[@ryebowen]

Preston pulling the “she’s a runner, she’s a track star” has me weakkkkkkkkkk 💀

[@LuzandoMukubu]

Yassss😂

[@shannilove2801]

nah cause why did i say it at the same time

[@ginalucero972]

He's sooo funny...

[@charis7513]

The fact they're so transparent is refreshing. He admitted to not being a good leader at the time of their courtship, and she was carrying a wound during their courtship and how she identified it. The fact they were able to work through it and come back together. Honestly the conversation was so needed.

[@preciousolea]

The “I didn’t have have a daddddd” cracks me up everytime lol

[@olukiyesimi]

cause the way she said it took me out 😭😭😭

[@nataliecibaric8849]

I’m wheezing😭😭😭

[@shirleymoore3706]

😂😂😂😂

[@SuperDjtoomuch]

😂😂😂 the way she said it is funny. But it's real. That statement and her story. Just shows you. You can still make it. You can still be the best person you can be. But you have to decrease. So God that can increase. You have to make a room and put that to the side. And let him be your dad. And her statement was honesty. That statement probably could have fixed some things in the beginning. That statement probably could have helped him to lead her better in the beginning. We have to learn to open up to our spouse in the beginning. We are one now. Less work through each other's things together. Let's feed off one another. This was good like always. Everybody needs friends like them.

[@preciousolea]

@@SuperDjtoomuch so real!!! And relatable to me. God works all things for our good anyhow

[@briannawinters8542]

It’s the “he even answers our raggedy prayers!” 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@RemiOmolosho]

Aw this was so lovely. Jackie I’d love to hear the process of you learning how to be a good girlfriend and wife in terms of expressing love and intimacy.

[@abullard8409]

Yes that would be wonderful to hear. Especially since Preston is the 1st man she's ever been with so I would be interested to how she was able to break down her walls and be venerable.

[@diana.elizabeth022]

Yes! That would be such a good episode!

[@l.c.b78]

THIIISSS 🙌🏼

[@shaniaamodo]

I agree!

[@carolf24]

Me too

[@lovebrooklyn]

28:23 this part is so beautiful because Preston exuded a pure and true example of God by texting Jackie “I love you” even though she had previously “rejected him out of fear.” Often times, we are often the “Jackie’s” to God….running away from His love and not accepting or believing that we are capable of being forgiven by God due to our mistakes, traumas, flaws, etc. And God is so faithful that he never fails to show us that there’s NOTHING that we could do or did do that could ever separate us from His love, grace, mercy, and goodness! Such a blessing!

[@sarahtran8121]

The dad part was real relatable 😭

[@armikuamosby7663]

Sadly it is

[@JMarie-th8xe]

Yes.

[@clorindajames3179]

Same

[@TierraSanea87]

It definitely is. 💙

[@prnssbuttercup]

This was excellent, I needed to hear every word. I thought I was unlovable because of my “anxious preoccupied” style but Jackie was clearly avoidant and God still called Preston to love her through her messiness. It just let me know I could be loved anyway.

[@StopBeingVictimsItsNotGodly]

I’ve been using this word all week, how unloveable I feel and who would want to be with me, be friends with me so it’s good to watch this episode. Even at work and schl I can feel people pulling away as soon as I start talking, I’m trying so hard to figure out what’s wrong with me, I know I’m a messed and not perfect but it’s hard to know there’s something about me people hate or want to stand off from me

[@Rosewave80]

These comments make me sad, not only are you lovable but you are LOVED!

[@amykessler2492]

@@StopBeingVictimsItsNotGodlySis those are the ones God does not want in your life. You are valuable and deserve to have reciprocated love, friendships, relationships. Etc… Please do not settle. When it comes you will know it’s from the Lord. There is Nothing wrong with you. Please speak life over yourself. Light dispels darkness- we are not called to fit in but to stand out. Everything God made on the 7th day he called it good. Sis You are a good thing😊 God Bless you. I pray that God Will strengthen you while on your journey to him. In Jesus Name, Amen!!

[@sofumba]

The Holy Ghost will show us as Men of God how to love and understand our Wives and what they need if we would just ask Him-

[@taiwooyinkansola6742]

"God wants us to model a love that would open people so they can be receptive to the truth that we give!"🙌🏾❤

[@grownwomansoul3791]

These two have captivated me April 2024. Much needed. To God be the honor and glory. 🙏🏿

[@Millennia217]

I feel so seen every time Jackie articulates her experiences

[@AntaneseTooREAL]

Yes 🙌🏾

[@broiechristianorr1276]

“A good man is someone whose led by the Holy Spirit” 🔥🔥🔥

[@jkuzofficial]

When y’all brought the Gospel in at the end… my God I almost lost it. If God first loved us, then why can’t we love each other?

[@dr.andrecranfordministries1008]

I been married 26 years. I’m a few months from 50 yrs old. I’m in awe of how you two have articulated your story. Continue to do what you all do. You’re blessing many💪🏽

[@chandarondaplays]

6 mins in and I AM JACKIE AND SHE IS ME. “I was SCARED!” 😂😂😂 sis I AM SCARED. The fatherlessness is real.

[@JessM20_]

Really real.

[@angelc.murphy4239]

Same here!!! I can totally relate this.

[@monicanicole738]

This podcast broke wide open what exactly my needs are. For over 7 years, when I became aware of relationships and how they’re formed and what it takes to wanna be in them, I never ever knew what my needs were. I was with partners that called me selfish because I did what I wanted to do for them (cook, clean up after them, help them relieve burdens by coming up with plans) but I rejected their intimacy and I was terrified of vulnerability. Therefore, every relationship I went on ti have was superficial. Until my ex. From the moment he met me, he would say “I am loving you in the fear of God himself. I don’t know how I know, but He told me you’re my wife. He called me to you.” For a whole year we fought what felt like every day and he would chase me, come up with a way to fix us. Anything. Every single thing he did scared me to the point of frustration. I wanted him to give up on me. I didn’t feel worthy of his love, I didn’t even want to be seen. I heard Jackie mention she was scared and that’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone else say that. Everyone else accepts love easily and wholeheartedly but not me. I’m hesitant. I’m doubtful. I’m self sabotaging. We parted ways, mutually, and idk that we will ever be together again but the reason was because he wasn’t getting enough intimacy from me. However at the end when you both talked about learning how to love one another which allowed Jackie to open up- it clicked for me. I never ever told him what I needed, but he got frustrated that I wasn’t ALWAYS doing what he needed. But none of my exes ever asked me what I needed. They called me selfish despite me serving them. But I realized what I need is a man who shows up. I need a man who is a leader. My ex would tell me things he’d have to get done but then oversleep. He had bad habits like smoking and drinking which was revolting to me but whatever. We had to take my car everywhere when we hung out because he neglected to get his taken care of properly and the stickers were out of date. I just had this DEEP longing for him to finally get it. To snap into knowing if he’s MY husband he needs to get it together. I built myself up and I was doing well and it felt like he was leeching off me at times. But I can say with my full chest now. I want a man who shows up and leads. I don’t want to remind him to get his stuff done. I want a man that has the ability to recognize where I need help because he knows I struggle asking for it due to my past trauma with being let down/betrayed. Thanks for this podcast…God is working on me but I hope God is working on him, too. I’ll pray for him I suppose. Might be half assed but…God just might answer 🤣

[@deebestest100]

Preston just really wanted to see mangoes 🤣

[@missdee212]

Ikr he mentioned these mangoes twice not even 10mins apart lol

[@mimiakuse]

He kept talking about these Mangoes 🥭 😂😂😂

[@farahharrislcpcceoofworkin3295]

Mangoes are the greatest fruit

[@tebogoledimo1694]

😂😂

[@inokerogoyawa]

Mangoes in the islands hit different 😂

[@the_jemimaa]

I heard a pastor say that God is always concerned about your own character first, not the other persons behavior to you. He is concerned about you first.

[@themiaparis]

I need me and my future husband to lovingly roast each other like this 😂😂😂😂😂

[@beedabee1221]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Godscreation20]

No fr 😂😂

[@StopLyinToUs]

You like pookies and ray rays too much!

[@Ya_girl_Ronni]

Definitely need this!!

[@Alexis-pw8no]

😂 because wydm you had a car and I just had a bus ticket

[@jasmynglamour]

I was sent this by a friend after I told her my partner and I separated .. again. I prayed two days ago for a sign from God that this man was my husband my happily ever after.. 2 minutes into this talk I saw my sign and again a few minutes later. It’s such a simple sign and yet it was so intense. Thank you for being a part of my sign and giving such a beautiful message.❤

[@lindokuhlemphanjukelwa3071]

this had me ugly crying but at the same time it was very reassuring in that it reiterated that the Lord is very intentional about the people who He places in our lives.

[@Articulated84Beauty]

1. I just found you Jackie and Preston and I love you both. 2. I’m from the Go and so it feels like being at home when you called her G, Preston. I mean there’s many meanings behind G for me but still it felt like a pizza puff and Harold’s met Baba’s. So thank you. We don’t hear that in Houston. We also don’t have pizza puffs in Houston either 😂. Send help. 😂 3. I was living as a lesbian for about 10 years from 18-28/29. I was basically kidnapped out of Chicago because I was going to die there…and my dad threw me in the car and we drove to Phoenix. On the border of New Mexico and Arizona, I asked God to take all my sin and when I tell you in an instance, He changed me. It was beautiful. It was purposeful. It was my first liberation of many strong holds He has lifted from me because of the faith I have in Him. 4. I struggle. I cannot find the desire to date or to put myself out there and the adversary plays with my mind and says it’s because I’m truly gay and I’ll never connect with a man. However I know the plans God has for me and there are plans of hope and a future. My best days are ahead of me. So…..can yall pray for me? I’m 39, single, no kids and I am strong in faith but sometimes, I isolate and so here I am. ❤ Thank you all for your work and for being obedient in your calling and being a blessing to all of us. Nicole

[@evangelistesther.o]

Try to fast and pray the scripture over your life and ask God to remove all impure desires from within your heart and to give you a new sense of direction and revelation concerning his will for your life. You can Daniel fast, do a 3 day water fast, do a water fast. Read Isaiah 58 while fasting also. The Bible promises that fasting breaks every yoke! And obviously be Conscious of your health if you cannot fast from food due to medical reasons then a Daniel fast might be best. God bless!

[@jeremiahogbadu]

Beautiful testimony, Nicole. I understand how you feel, and I pray God gives you the strength to fight and the grace and wisdom to trust Him as His spirit sanctifies you. Trust me, this channel will be very helpful to you. I'll also recommend Jackie's book, "Gay Girl, Good God" where she shares her testimony whilst explaining God's amazing redemption power. Always remember, Jesus loves you. The devil is a liar and a master illusionist, yet God's grace is sufficient, and His love conquers all. Much blessings.

[@TheBenitaAngela]

Jackie starting off saying: “I’ve been playing around with blush cause it makes me feel alive” sent me!!! Wednesday Addams type of quote lol

[@wonderwoman7304]

IKR. 🤣🤣🤣

[@joydanleigh7711]

lol

[@LindsayAmelia]

Yeeees i loved it.

[@ashleyjones3487]

Right😂😂😂

[@reneejohnson3704]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@sibongisenisakhele3114]

I love this conversation! The man can only become a husband when they depend on the Maker of the divine marriage. And thus the wife can open up to be be led. It comes to down to humility on both sides recognising the Power at work from God. Praise the Lord!

[@KatDPerez]

Love this story! And Jackie, Preston loves you and God destined him for you!! that’s why despite the arguments he wanted to marry you, he loved you despite your flaws and shortcomings just as Christ loves us despite the moments we mess up. It’s not illogical for him to want to have married you, you’re worth it for him!! He wanted you for you! Beautiful to see that and see a man submit to the Holy Spirit’s guidance. Grateful to God for your podcasts and marriage! Glory to God for that!!

[@theodorachiedu6407]

The part where he sends 'I love you', broke something in me...What manner of love is that?!. Only in God.... Dear God, help me to love the way you Love me

[@kjwilliams100]

This helped me. I have been the old version of Preston with my husband. Perhaps if I just show him love and not enumerate his flaws all the time, I can then experience God's peace and leave the fixing to Him. I appreciate y'all's transparency.

[@k.rochel]

“I had a car and you had a bus ticket is sending me” 😂😂😂😂😂they truly are friends

[@tashae.denise]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Christinapinkk]

😂😂😂😂

[@Akingdomdiva1985]

Thank you Preston and Jackie for this. This podcast was definitely timely. I praise God for you both and your willingness to share your story which points your viewers back to Christ and His word.

[@lexBhere]

Amen!!❤

[@jonathanesayiasberhe3222]

@ 29:32 Preston = "We was pure" Jacky = Kinda Preston and Jacky = "We was pure-ISH" I laughed so hard at that confession. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bless yall heart. This is why I watch yall podcast. Not because I seek the vulnerability. But because yall willingness to not paint a unreal picture inspires me to watch my tongue and be courages to speek out how I messed up aswell.

[@changingme4315]

Timing is everything, and this was right on time. God opened my eyes through this podcast that I am how Preston was back then, with my 16 yo niece now. In that I have been preaching to her on how to change her, instead of showing love to her to be open to truth. My intention has always been out of love for her, but in my own strength, which will NOT work. Thanks for the reminder to truly pray about it. Blessings!

[@tiffanyl4829]

"Get that outta you by my own strength..." and recognizing that God has to lead in everything. I'm in tears.

[@preciousolea]

This podcast is the best 😂😂😂 the way Jackie and Preston be cracking jokes on each other lol

[@heather851]

Yes, love it ❤️

[@annamc8228]

I agree 🥰

[@nehemiahobongono8496]

😂😂

[@kamariasavoy1928]

“I lost my remote back sir! Do you have any for my SONY X25?” 😂😭

[@seivorsichtig]

Jackie is me, I am Jackie. Recently started therapy and I also received that chart lol. It’s been really helpful. Also recently started dating this amazing man and I have to constantly fight the urge to push him away and run away.. it’s hard ngl. So encouraging to see it’s possible to work it out. Thank you so much for your transparency 🙏🏽

[@damisev]

You should check out the book “wired for love” it gives info about attachment styles and helps you and your partner navigate them

[@seivorsichtig]

⁠@@damisev just looked it up, thank you so much. Do you think this is something we should read together or individually?

[@CAdaure]

Yessss girl, same 😭

[@porsheconrad8552]

Wow Preston is so humble in explaining himself to you and the mistakes he made innocently.

[@esmeraldarodriguez7328]

As a wife of a husband that is becoming a pastor, it's getting really lonely and I've been in my feelings trying to be okay with not really seeing him often. Watching you guys brings joy and comfort in me. Giving me a message that it's going to be OK. Thank you and God continue to bless your ministry and BEAUTIFUL family ❤😊

[@josephineboachie-yiadom]

I understand my Love. I pray the holy spirit helps you know how to go about it. You both are blessed

[@alicemusirinofa6351]

😅

[@TheSongNinja]

Praying for you and your husband💚

[@amy22331]

🙏🏼❤️

[@lasheasimmonspogge2435]

You are a part of that ministry too, even though he is in the Pastors position, God will not allow him to forget that he is a husband first. Our ministry is our family first,always. The ministry's families should never be the martyr.

[@rebekahcraiker]

Wow, this is so encouraging and uplifting. I broke up with my husband twice before we got married, and like Preston, my husband prayed and listened to God and didn’t give up even when he had every reason to walk away… twice. Thank you for sharing your story. I thought my story was the only one, so it’s so comforting to know I’m not the only one who went through something very similar and how God continues to work in the unknown and in the fear.

[@Sarah_116_]

Jackie and Preston are people of God for real 🥹🙏🏾 so life giving. Thank You Jesus

[@chloeyorke2560]

Y’all’s story is so relatable because I was afraid of my husband’s affection and intentionality when we were dating too…I literally ran away as he was divulging his feelings for me 💀 loved this one!

[@audreychinhamo1496]

How did you deal with it?

[@crystalblive]

The timing of this episode is definitely God ordained for me. I’m grateful to have heard it at this time and super thankful to be encouraged.

[@donnisha5180]

Idk if anyone has said this, but i love how yall match each other and your home decor. The couch, picture frame and the pillows... just coordinating! ❤❤

[@Loveit45]

This really calmed me down about my breakup although me and him may never get back together this calmed me down that there’s hope I’ll find someone and look back years later laughing off of the past

[@aprilsantos2139]

I love y’all energy with each other. That is so me and my husband. We are best friends and play with each other and most people don’t understand us cleaning each other but it’s our love language.

[@Karlisa]

“Everything that was hard dealing with issues with you, God was showing something in me” WHEWWW this conversation was so good! Your story portrays how Jesus loves US❤️

[@_thejblife_]

One of the realest conversations I’ve ever heard on relationships. Thank you for sharing. Much appreciated.

[@gr8ter2me]

😂❤I love the authenticity! I need real ministers in my life who show their realities. Too many ministers only show the good, like being a Christian will stop struggles and make everything perfect. Thank you both for being real!

[@LeslieLaRay757]

A thinker and a strategist…that was so good! A reminder to Go to God first not my thoughts!

[@cre8whatyouwant]

I had a similar experience with an ex…but after the break up (and me not being able to process….or understand my emotions enough to express them verbally as well), our “reunion” was infected with passive aggressiveness and rejection towards me…due to the hurt I inflicted onto him. We never recovered after that. It felt like what I did (breaking up out of frustration/fear) was unforgivable to him in a sense…when I really just wanted to be met with love. I wanted to be seen past my brokenness and through the eyes of love. This just proves that God really needs to be the center. God is the one who guided Preston to lead with love…and not the hurt cause by Jackie’s rejection. To know someone loves you and can process through those difficult situations (and doesn’t switch up because of those bad days), is a love I feel we all would like to experience. This was a beautiful episode. I’m thankful I found this podcast.

[@arianaways]

I experienced the same thing. Except in my situation I broke up with my partner several times. I tried so hard to heal in that relationship but it wasn’t enough. Once he realized how truly broken I was and holding on to the hurt of my rejection of him, he was unable to love me anymore. He was trying to get to the place he was mentally in the beginning of our relationship but I didn’t want to ask him to open his heart to me again knowing I was still broken inside and confused about the relationship. After we parted ways I prayed to God for clarity on the situation and he made me clear to me that the relationship was not His will for my life. It was in the midst of the relationship that I found Christ and it was difficult being in a relationship with a non believer. I believe that God removed him from my life because I was idolizing marriage and engaging in a unholy relationship. God is preparing me to be with someone who is equally yoked who can lead me with love with the spirit of Christ 🙏🏾

[@adrienneberry1764]

Thank you both for this “real”discussion on real life stuff! There’s not enough of it by those leading in church. It took me too long to realize that I was the walking wounded too long and wouldn’t take accountability. Wounded makes it hard to love, hard to relate. Therapy also has it’s benefits. (anyhew) I’m happy to see you both got through the issues and made it this far, GOD is our help. Truth is you both wanted to change and that’s a fact. I’m a mature woman that’s proud of you both. STAY TOGETHER!!!❤

[@crystal9626]

Relationships are work. You bring two people together with their different everything and it's work to have a successful relationship. Married 32 years! Speaking from experience.

[@chloeyorke2560]

Thank God He hears our raggedy prayers 😩🙌🏾

[@JMarie-th8xe]

😂😮

[@MrsVLGreen]

I love that Preston pointed out that "we're wholistic beings. Our physical being will affect the spiritual and mental, and vice versa." 🤯

[@meki2510]

ABSOLUTELY, there are levels to the anger of a man and there is a specific aggression that women tread lightly..

[@masanismith3004]

Jackie had me thinking I was living in another dimension when she said they started dating in 2021 😅

[@jameshaflowers1242]

lol yeah I was like I think they been married for almost 13 or 14 years

[@simphiwendlela]

me too, , i was so confused bcoz i also saw a video of them when scrolling down written 10 years ago...

[@julianaarriola2931]

😂 me too! I rewinded the video a couple times to see if I heard that correctly

[@mzmeeka315]

“Catch a ride” Jackie is ruthless. ❤

[@akayleeyakennebrew]

The way "Lord, I need your joy" just resonated with me. 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@jesuschrististheonlyway9017]

How do we got 4 kids Jackie giggle because yourrrrrr Preston lost it. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@KSP30]

Cracked me up😂😂😂😂

[@angelalaurel5329]

My husband of 5 years, 2 years coming up in marriage are separated We agreed to attend a weekend to remember in November, our anniversary month I've been praying and searching for podcasts about marriage Christian based by couples Your podcast with the couple that mentor in the weekend to remember My heart started to open and soften I felt Joy and relief Hope and belief of Hope I called my husband to share and he is watching now Praise God and bless you 🙏 🙌 💖

[@SaitonRigha]

I pray that the miracle of reunification has happened

[@isaacmwangaza]

“A good man is not a good man in of Himself but a good man is a man who’s led by the Holy Spirit”

[@shermerianicole1]

I just want to say you two’s relationship truly shows the BEAUTY of the gospel! God bless you both! I truly love this podcast & yes I’m the one who eats snacks & watches KZbin lol. Thank you for yes & obedience! May the Lord continue to enlighten, encourage, & uplift you both 🤍

[@estherKsammy]

Beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing. "Correction is received better when the person has been loved first" 📌🎯

[@OutoftheBoxVirtualAssisting]

This is excellent! Such an edifying, funny & yet mature discussion. Loved it!

[@jaydelynette]

I've listened to this episode twice, I've watched it once (three in total). Every time it brings me something new. I will never not be grateful for the union of you guys relationship, especially as a single girly with a unique calling on my life. But how much God is in the details of a situation even if its the result of our own sin. How amazing it is to be single and listen to you guys and understand the depth of doing life with someone you love in the name of Jesus! thank you !!!!!

[@indiarae9032]

Their relationship is beautiful and so centered around God and their relationship with God I love it

[@tyfdh9]

1 thing for sure, he not only loves her, he’s in love with her. BIG difference! Reason why he fought for her. Let this be an example men, when you’re in love with a woman to pray and ask God for guidance, wait patiently and then obey His guidance; no matter who was right or wrong. The question is, “Do U see her as your wife, the mother of your children?” If the answer is clearly yes; then, ask her. Ask her to be your wife. He knew her ❤, but struggled to get in. WARNING!! Make sure its God talking and not lust, sex, or convenience.

[@JMarie-th8xe]

She did have some healing to do. I think the start of the relationship brought that up to the surface. I can definitely relate. We ask God to clean our hearts and sometimes God uses people to help us see our hearts so we know what to bring before Him. How can our hearts be clean if we don't know what's in it or what healing we need. God wants to clean and heal our hearts. You guy's story touches my heart! Seeing God at work in your relationship is awesome to see!

[@kingdomcharacter7247]

“I wasn’t able to see You until I led you with Love “ ❤️ Preston that’s both deep and poetic!🩷💙🩷

[@chitsanzokatholowamo459]

"Oh yeah let's talk about that, I was a victim there too"😂 this has definitely become one of my favourite episodes

[@sjg5994]

This really touched me. My husband and I struggled but we were not surrounded my strong and challenging Christian leaders or people. It was just "church as usual." We tried but we were getting worse in our hearts the more help was sought. No one spoke real talk and we needed it. Now he's off....way off in the religious world. In the midst I heard God say pray for him, but my brokeness was so deep I didn't. I wish I had to help push back the darkness a bit better. Thank God for real talk and people willing to challenge others in the realness.

[@vaultofria]

Are you guys married now?

[@sjg5994]

@vaultofria Thanks for asking....but no. Divorced now. I did start changing for the better on my own, but my ex-husband was worse off than I thought. He had deeply rooted issues with porn and other women. It was like he was battling the darkness in himself and had no strength to fully surrender to Christ. He participated in counseling many times, but it wasn't strong or real talk at all with either of us. And although he was/is responsible for his own freedom in Christ, Christian leaders are part of our growth. In the Bible, Jesus and His Disciples were very straightforward yet loving. They called out sin but reminded about His Truth. We never got that. But where I'm at today, I know God allowed it because I was searching hard, and then praying hard. My ex actually got worse and meaner towards me. I endured like a good soldier but it was painful. That last day in court was brutal to see a different person who barely could look at me, was lying, and couldn't remember our wedding date when he was the one who really wanted to marry me. He had a lot of brokenness, some I knew about. He turned from The Truth. I'm still not 100% why God let it end that way, but all I know is that I'm at peace at home now. It was tense with him because I always felt like he was hiding something. I still don't know the whole story and don't need it, but he became very unhealthy spiritually and spiraled into sexual sins. God took it away from my life. Unfortunately my ex went with it.

[@galeparsons4731]

"Lead with love" was everything for me. I started not to to listen to this podcast because of the title, buy you two dropped so many nuggets and wisdom on this 40 minutes. It has been one of those moments for me. You all gave words to my thoughts and some struggles. Praise Jesus🙌🏾!

[@kelliew.4285]

This talk was about ALL relationships. It says a lot about the necessity of learning to forgive before marriage and of becoming the person who can solve some of the things we're asking God to do. People in a Godly marriage know what it takes to make relationships work, and I thank you Preston and Jackie for your wisdom and transparency that helps us heal all of our relationships.

[@justlillian__]

God's Timing is perfect. This confirmed so many things for me. ❤

[@terricamiller5894]

😂😂😂 the way Jackie said I had a car and he had a bus pass 😩😩 I love them !!

[@marthaimakando5489]

Me sitting under a mango tree as I listen to this not knowing it's flex to see mangoes hanging in trees. 😂😂😂🙌🏾 Seriously though, loved everything about this conversation. 😍💆🏾‍♀️

[@AshWroteThis]

That's so cool

[@Mrs_Fletcher]

I love how you all pressed through. Marriage is definitely work. I was just giving the Lord an earful when your video popped up and caught my attention. Thanks!

[@jjack323]

Man oh man was this a timely message. The Holy Spirit convicted me from this for sure. Thank y’all for your obedience.

[@aar3325]

Heavenly Father please continue to bless these two people..bless their Union…bless their home…bless their family…bless their walk…bless their ministry in Jesus’ name!!Amen

[@notdynastys]

This ep is so good. Full of wisdom of longevity of relationship.

[@mickeyimmanuel]

Thank you for explaining the difference between the “hard” you’re called to and toxic situations, Jackie. That needed to be said. I literally stayed in an abusive relationship for 4 years because I thought I was doing something noble. When really I was being faithful to abuse.

[@monayiga]

Their humour is sooo...infectious. 😂 "You threw me under the Bus...pun intended...😂"

[@TiaMia0707]

I have so many questions concerning my own marriage after listening to this podcast. God send help my way. ❤ Love the Perrys

[@ogechukwuokpala9607]

The Lord was teaching me how to depend on Him in loving a woman 😢 who is cutting onions in here?!