>fusion spells >look inside >more skins for colossus and helephant
@jorocАй бұрын
>with extra colossus nipples
@MasterWanАй бұрын
It's great to see this development. However, it's worth noting that many of the animations were already part of the game, which impacts their uniqueness. Still, this is a neat addition!
@lail414Ай бұрын
I mean, what do you want them to do? Make new custom animations for every fusion spell? We barely get new animations as it is. At least you could do is be grateful that they incorporated this spell fusion neatly and not made such risky changes. Putting more time into animation equals less time on the actual concept you are trying to provide.
@imjannizАй бұрын
@@lail414 yeah, i think this is a great way to make a lot of content while not breaking the bank on resources
@GuardianLambАй бұрын
@@lail414 Your standard is so low you're telling someone else to kiss it up? The whole point of a concept in a video game DOES involve animation especially in a game that visualizes spells...In fact it's the most important. It isn't hard to make new animations...not for a fcking old game like this. I'm an animator myself and I have done free work for many studios for my resume and I'm just one person. There are many on yt who do the same. Your game is just lazy.
@AlckeeАй бұрын
@@lail414 Yes. Stop with this "at least" No this game has been going on for over a deacade, stop defending laziness lmao. Stop with the appeal to another evil fallacy.
@MasterWanАй бұрын
It’s disheartening to think that players might need to settle for less than what we know the game is capable of.
@TheSerenoShowАй бұрын
Glad to see all this, but certainly some of the animations could use work
@zzenjuroАй бұрын
Oh yikes, they say these are new but really they're just old or re-used copies of spells that weren't trainable. Still nice to see them making changes and updates, hopefully they change the sound effects of the newer spells so they're more unique
@PinkPixelBunnyАй бұрын
So basically, all the treasure cards now becoming learnable and some new?
@davwigglesworthАй бұрын
13:16 Missed Opportunity: Ash Draconian could have been a reskin of Keeper of the Flame
@sadplatinum755215 күн бұрын
now that youve said it, im mad that it isnt
@alexmcswain880Ай бұрын
You could tell from the card artwork that these were going to be reused spells
@TheGodkittyАй бұрын
Honestly this was an over complicated way to make mob spells accessible
@bankait_rex1860Ай бұрын
OMG I said the same thing! glad I am not the only one that thinks this way, while watching this video all I said was why ? why in the hell make this so complicated instead of putting some cool quest so we can learn this and make it fun and unique for our wizards and not destroy the whole lord or uniqueness of every wizard.
@ajadams3297Ай бұрын
I want wallaru mob spells
@Coolkc456Ай бұрын
Precisely. These are really just mutation and treasure card spells with different abilities and gambits and the trade off is they do a different school's damage. I probably won't be using any of these unless any of them have an incredibly useful utility on them that is worth saving up for.
@specterbektormektor8615Ай бұрын
@@Coolkc456belloq would like to know your name your address what school you are where ya live
@mason3845Ай бұрын
Best/most unique looking (in order of appearance): Scorphion, Mind Blown!, Desert Lord, Centaurion, Pyre Dragon, Stormin Gorgon. Honorable mentions to Primal Stampede, Forest Fire, Joltergeist, and Poisonous Toad.
@specterbektormektor8615Ай бұрын
NGL for balance they could have had a ra helephant fusión named it Horus unless a packs coming with that spell in it wait a minute...
@RontoxityАй бұрын
Ice mammoth- I must protect my family, your a threat..die! Death mammoth- I just wanna kill you, no hard feeling
@universal_wisdom3416Ай бұрын
Some of these animations are actually sick. The death wooly mammoth for example.
@CalebCooks1994Ай бұрын
Hahaha the fire Medusa has an animation error. She comes out of the ground with her snakes/hair already raised. They’re not supposed to raise until she opens her mouth and spits the venom lol. The fire fusion spells are just embarrassing. All of them are just enemy NPC animations from dragonspyre and grizzleheim
@AurelianoBabiloniaАй бұрын
Do you realize they are still working on them? Do you realize this is TEST realm?
@koalaapocАй бұрын
@@AurelianoBabiloniaas if they’ll actually change any of it lol
@TheEyeOfBeardieАй бұрын
@@AurelianoBabilonialil bro they won't fix that, ki is almost as lazy as mojang employees
@FinickyFirebirdАй бұрын
@@TheEyeOfBeardie Realest comment I've seen all day
@specterbektormektor8615Ай бұрын
Us balances are slowly getting closer to snapping
@KokiriHero21 күн бұрын
fr lmao
@daisymaizedotjpgАй бұрын
All of these reskins and still no easily accessible four pip aoe spells for life & death? Girl…
@lordshenhai5321Ай бұрын
I would be surprised if they ever add one that doesn't require you to grind or pay for it.
@Cuddlebear6285Ай бұрын
You can only get these after Dragonspyre so obviously they wouldn't make them 7 pip or less aoes.
@theinternationallanguagees9213Ай бұрын
Rat spin isn’t too hard to get if you farm it with higher levels. Took me a couple days.
@zekromleaderАй бұрын
these spells look great but the sound effects need a bit of tweaking to match the school effects. more zapping/electrical currents for storm weaves as an example. other than that, fun additions!
@dongh8er821Ай бұрын
I dont even mind the re used animations. I like the number of things we can combine and it gives a new use for older spells
@CouchPootatooАй бұрын
Bruh might as well make all the life spells different versions of Forrest Lord
@aZinizterАй бұрын
Green Serpent is Shenron nobody can change my mind
@aspectum1816Ай бұрын
I wish KI had come up with original spells that made sense given each school’s cultural/mythological identity, as well as not simply just reskinning old spells. It’s been done in the past with mutates (sun school) or mutated versions of other spells (non-sun, like colossus and earth walker, or scarab and frost beetle), so this isn’t exactly a new precedent. Ultimately they decided its utility and novel mechanism was worth more than spending more time to make the animation or originality of these spells less jank. It saddens me since I feel like there was a lot of potential, but I guess it’s just not within their budget or timeframe
@batpunk.Ай бұрын
making over a hundred new animations and models would probably delay the update by months
@GuardianLambАй бұрын
@@batpunk. It isn't like they had years to initiate right? U sheep
@TheEyeOfBeardieАй бұрын
The point of spell weaving is basically to replace mutation, as you combine a card of your school with a different school's (via weaved school) to get a new variant, hence why they used the reskins.
@disgustedweeegeee3759Ай бұрын
@@TheEyeOfBeardieand you can actually enchant them
@thatguy2920Ай бұрын
I semi agree. I heard unlocking just one spell from this new mechanic is a huge grind, and I just can’t help but wonder if the devs even play their own game because who thinks it’s fun fighting the same boss over and over for a spell
@christopherwright5837Ай бұрын
Some excellent names (joltergeist, bleh the impaler, scorchpion…), some less great (rock man of ages 😂)
@stinky8056Ай бұрын
they really added 90 new spells and a fusion mechanic just to make it only useful in pvp and its gimmicky and borderline useless there too
@disgustedweeegeee3759Ай бұрын
I think they could've changed sound effects on many of them. Sure, that many different animations in the time frame might be a little ambitious, but at least have new sounds
@dragonhartlivesАй бұрын
is it just me or do these not seem good at all outside of pvp?
@eotto4752Ай бұрын
they could come in handy in pve if you're fighting cheating bosses, especially if you're a solo player
@PixieBladeArtАй бұрын
Even in pvp most of these will suck, but yeah none of these are even remotely useful or close to making you do something else than buff aoe
@DarkmanewandererАй бұрын
@@PixieBladeArt No spell or combination of spell will ever be able to compare to buff aoe unless they released a spell that was literally just 'and then you win the combat with this spell'. Buff-buff-aoe is the stealth archer playstyle of the game, its th most efficient way to play because it exploits the way that the system was built to give the maximum output for the minimum input.
@BossmanVxАй бұрын
The thing is they can't just keep adding AOE's to the game every update. We already got a new meta aoe in the last world update. I like that they're adding stuff outside the buff buff aoe meta without necessarily making either playstyle obsolete. Plus, the new Selenopolis school spells and same school fusion spells are pretty good single target spells.
@dragonhartlivesАй бұрын
@@BossmanVx trust me, I get that they can't just keep adding AOEs and I don't mind single targets. My main issue is the amount of investment you need for marginally better. I'm a Fire main so I'm mostly liiking at fire. Others could be better, but I don't know the classes well enough to judge them, so for now I'm just going to be talking about fire fusions. Lightning Dragon on paper looks like genuinely one of the best ones you can get for fire and is probably going to be the one I pick up, but the investment for it seems ridiculous. You need 9 training points to get Triton, then 2 more to get the actual spell. 11 training points to get a single target version of a spell that will take you to the level cap that does around 100 more base damage, most of which is for a class you don't have stats for, that will be basically be made up for by the stats given by the Water Works gear in a few levels. Granted, base card is better than the next few fire single targets, but any real difference should be easily made up for by gear. Cryo Cat is (in my oppinion) the next best one for Fire to go for due to its detonate. But to me it's just off brand A-baahh-calypse
@xxshadowhunter5149Ай бұрын
Im Kinda dissapponted 😐 since these were "fusion spells" I expected the animation to feel like a fusion. But its just ordinary revamped cards with a different color. It just feels like im casting ordinary spells They could of made it feel like how it does with shadow magic you know something big is about to happen by animation andk sound affects alone. Idk ki slapping the word "new" 80+ spells just to see a re-skin feels like a slap in the face Look at how well yugioh summons egeption god cards or fuse cards Or even persona
@camdenthompson4307Ай бұрын
One: its nice knowing someone else made a connection to Yu-Gi-Oh besides myself. two: I honestly do kinda feel the same way. a lot of these spells don't feel really.....big. I think if they did something similar to the differences between Deer Knight & Reindeer Knight, then I'd be interested, but these really feel quite simplistic. As you kinda mentioned, a lot of the Yu-Gi-Oh fusions, as meaningless as a lot of the early ones were, at least felt impactful, such as Chimera, Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, Dark Paladin, etc. a few of these fusions make sense and actually seem pretty cool, namely the ones with more stronger cards like Grimzilla & Pyre Dragon. In all fairness, I feel as though a better idea would be to not exactly change the animations ( it does kinda make sense at least), but maybe make new models for each fusion card to show how both cards fused together (again, kinda like early Yu-Gi-Oh). the closest one to this is Pyre Dragon, since its on fire, but a few ideas would be stuff like making Grimzilla partially decayed and/or rise from a grave instead of an egg, giving lightning dragon (so far my favorite fusion, since I absolutely adore Fire Dragon) stuff like fins or gills, or making King of Order a Clockwork version of storm lord. a few other ideas would be making a few of the spells combining 2 weaker cards instead combine one weak with one strong card (e.x. Sun vulture fusing Phoenix & dark sprite rather than sun bird, to make it feel impactful), or maybe combining school identity's more, which they "sorta" do, but I'd think they could make it more interesting than just using the PVP versions of the spells, like if Lightning Dragon was some sort of Hit & Trap or even a Hit & Link sort of deal.
@cent5399Ай бұрын
jesus christ this entire comment section is expecting way too much out of ki
@camdenthompson4307Ай бұрын
@cent5399 I mean fair, especially when we're talking about over 100 spells, your bound to try and ease how much you need to do. I honestly think whatever the next update is, they'll add new fusions and all that. Probably not as many compared to what we got, but enough for them to feel comfortable with. My guess is that they'll try to combine every ravenwood spell in at least one fusion, but I think it's also going to be over a long period of time
@codyaaron3371Ай бұрын
I mean tbh I’d say 80% of these I’ve already seen mobs use so what did they really do here in terms of animation or texturing work😂
@tasosGRvocalsАй бұрын
I really like this addition, but most of not all of these ones were already seen before in the game, in item cards or casted by mobs throughout the spiral. So nothing new animation wise, but still a great addition to the game!!
@specterbektormektor8615Ай бұрын
The eye one feels like the only new one imo
@tasosGRvocalsАй бұрын
@specterbektormektor8615 True..
@razerssАй бұрын
Way to recycle spells that were obtainable through mutation training and treasure cards. There's about 8 of these you actually couldn't have, Thank you New Kingsisle Management for letting your lack of ideas shine brightly!
@funnymanhaha7899Ай бұрын
Bro its 80+ new spells. Aint no way you expect them to have 75% of these be new, unique animations made in less than the span of a year. Let’s be realistic. This is coming from someone whose done this work before, and KI’s teams are spread thin. This is easily one of their biggest updates, and extremely unique and a fun spin on it - The animations may be reused but the effects are fun and different, and is a nice introduction.
@razerssАй бұрын
@funnymanhaha7899 L Take.
@funnymanhaha7899Ай бұрын
@@razerss probably not if thats your response to all that
@ThomasTheIVАй бұрын
@@funnymanhaha7899 KI gave you reskins and you took it like a good boy calling it an "extremely unique update" when we already had these spells in the forms of treasure cards.
@bloodstabber7251Ай бұрын
Imagine just retexturing some old animations and saying that "we added new visuals for magicweavint thingg" its like GOING TO THE FUCKING MICHELIN STAR RESTAURANT JUST TO GET A MICROWAVED OLD MEAL FROM CENTURIEA AGO. Oh my god i hate the fact that KI development team is too lazy to do anhthing decent. People pay you money for this game minthly so get your hands in your pocket, hire animators/drawers/designers or whatever it is, do a defent job with an expansion for once. Jesus christ i hate them always being half hearted everytime.
@VoltPirateАй бұрын
I agree 100%. Games over a decade old
@XemonnYTАй бұрын
are those the TC cards?
@jimmtl9736Ай бұрын
This is such a cool concept, it's a shame that it's only use will be in pvp
@LovelyDilly630Ай бұрын
Honestly. I don’t like spell weaving or fusion. I don’t think I’m going to partake:
@San-pvАй бұрын
ty finally someone uploaded the hd version of it you are the same person who checks the new code from the downloaded wiz files and emulates them right? thats how you get the hd imaging, and without the sigil. but what is this area? where is it? did the devs create it? a place in selenopolis? a house? azteca house? i never saw this amazing place
@bearieroblox6451Ай бұрын
I was really hoping we could get any fusions from any schools provided we had the training point “86 new spells” but you can only possibly get 3 of them for your wizard? Also why does balance always get screwed over 😡 I guess this is really just a tiny expansion to make a secondary school more viable. Oh yea except gear.
@Mike-dx5jcАй бұрын
While i like the idea of the spells, ill probably never use them unless i 100% have to. The whole thing about deck building is to add the least amount of cards needed so your not wasting rounds searching for specific ones. So having to make sure i have 2 seperate spells in my hand, in a boss fight would mean having multiple copies of both to increase the odds, which everyone will agree, can get frustrating when you constantly dont get the card you need when. You need it.
@Ben_CleverNameАй бұрын
1:02 goes so hard 👁
@basketrio-joe5843Ай бұрын
its just supernova, the eyeball doesnt even have a unique animation, they should at least gave it its own animation even the eyeball blinking wouldve sufficed.
@Ben_CleverNameАй бұрын
@@basketrio-joe5843 Don't care. It looks cool. It doesn't have to have a unique animation.
@PixieBladeArtАй бұрын
None of these spells even come close to breaking or even affecting the PvE meta of buffing + AoE And considering the only gear set outside of crowns packs that gives dual school damage are the lvl 50 malistaire drops there is 0 reason to use these, and the best school gear sets are school locked. Also, these spells suffer from deck rng, you NEED both spells to make a fusion, if you don't get either of them you're stuck with your school's spell that you might as well just use or the other school spell that is utterly useless on its own
@PixieBladeArtАй бұрын
Also it's ceaselessly funny that they pushed dual schooling this hard but still didn't give a solution to school spells you can't get outside of spell quests like Scarecrow
@Cuddlebear6285Ай бұрын
For the first part, that is literally not the point of the spells, if you wanna always play perfectly optimally, that's fine, but that's not what should be the only option. That is true. That is kinda half true, since if you're using these you're inherently not setting up your deck for quick "Get the exact card you need quickly" gameplay anyways. Honestly, mechanically I have no issue, what I have an issue with is how lazy the spells actually are. At least half should have been quite literally two spells combining. Like Catch Of The Day & Burning Rampage.
@jannfredryckmatias3545Ай бұрын
18 new fusions out of 42
@Nickless1833Ай бұрын
Where is this filmed?? Looks so cool
@ExternalSasukeАй бұрын
You should do a video with what the effects does
@specterbektormektor8615Ай бұрын
Why the myth vamp reminds me of Scooby Doo
@user-yz6jc1tt7oАй бұрын
You know when i first heard of this update i thought we were getting some cool ans new astral spells but these just some lame ass re skins
@geovanneenzo5680Ай бұрын
broo, shenlong is in the game now LMAOO
@MemeduedАй бұрын
Extremely disappointed, to be quite frank. This could’ve been a real chance actually to create new spells and do different things, but it’s just…. I guess it’s something.
@InfamousWackoАй бұрын
BLEH THE IMPAILER 10:15
@DivineBeastVahMedohАй бұрын
So basically they just reused spells and called it new? Also the graphics are hideous. How much longer is wizard101 going to have these grainy and pixelated textures? Smh
@MercysNo.1Ай бұрын
Wait a moment, is Bleh the Impaler supposed to give 100% back, or did KI make a mistake
@Enforcer_Hound1Ай бұрын
I believe one of my pets gives the death beetle
@Anthony_10.20Ай бұрын
Can anyone tell me if these spells can be enchanted with like Epic for instance?
@PieIsGud2808Ай бұрын
They look like they can be given they have the normal spell card look. They aren’t item cards or treasure cards nor are they already enchanted
@derekwhillАй бұрын
I think they said on one of the streams that the spells once fused could still be enchanted as usual
@PixieBladeArtАй бұрын
They can, spell fusions turn the spells into a spell card, not an item or treasure card, so you can enchant it however you please
@ImpassiveSargeАй бұрын
You can
@dancyshadowstorm943Ай бұрын
I'm 50/50 on this some of the spells you get with pets gear and TC they could just gave us these spells through the arcanum to be honest some of them we seen though out the story already it be different of it was spells we could not get or have not seen some of them not worth going for.
@AgilityFireАй бұрын
how do you get rid of the middle ring and only show it on your character???
@cameronwildlyАй бұрын
ATMO.
@ChristianGroff-c1qАй бұрын
How did you get that arena?
@respize3756Ай бұрын
make new spells < reskin old spells and call it new content
@PieIsGud2808Ай бұрын
These are cool but why use these over AOE in PvE ?
@BossmanVxАй бұрын
For variety 🤷🏾♂️ They can't keep brining out new AOE's every year, we just got a new meta AOE in the last world. At least these can be used for raids, cheating bosses, challenge mode etc and provide new endgame content
@epict133719 күн бұрын
0:41 So we're just gonna pretend that "new" fusion spell isnt just leafstorm from the kookaburra pet? Literally 90% of these spells are just spells from gear or pets with goofy ahh names
@555ushiАй бұрын
Can you fusion school your main school?
@AlpheamusАй бұрын
What are these for? I havent been keeping up with Wiz lately. :(
@beanbean1142Ай бұрын
KI is making a big push to make dual schooling more viable! It looks like a lot of what the new area, Selenopilis, is going to be is a hub for these new systems. Selenopilis is going to have, to my knowledge, a new tutorial on archmastery (pip system already added that lets you get other school power pips easily), trainers for these fusions (new system they're adding here, you'll be able to obtain these through training points), and quest givers for spellweaving (looks like it'll be a system to better implement stats to bring you closer to your second school? Not really sure on this one myself). Hope this helps!
@C0mansoАй бұрын
They're allergic to AOE spells now aren't they
@Fin-yi5hdАй бұрын
yea because we kinda got 1 in wallaru, lol
@Benjamin8693Ай бұрын
Every school got their best round-1 AOE in Wallaru. And a handful of these fusion spells are AOEs. There are valid criticisms to make about KI but this one is nonsensical lmao.
@williamgaines9879Ай бұрын
@@Benjamin8693 The wallaru Aoe's are useless they just do in all attack and that's about it and they also look like lvl 15 spells their damage is so low also you would think a lvl 170 would have a higher damage spell making these AOE's wouldn't be so bad at all
@lordshenhai5321Ай бұрын
@@williamgaines9879 Wdym their damage is higher then early accessible 4 pip aoe counter parts. So you might as well be saying sandstorm, blizzard, meteor strike, humongofrog are all weak to. Except for for maybe bunyip when you compare it to tempest.
@PixieBladeArtАй бұрын
@@Benjamin8693 Maybe people complain because you get your best round 1 aoe in the final world of the game at almost if not already max level spellweaving starts at level 50, that's 120 levels of waiting for that aoe
@mrwhitey2027Ай бұрын
This is bad, cmon this is just Mutated cards... I thought something more cool like idk for Fire+Death you will get Pumpkin monster with a flaming head... But we got a bird that no one uses
@xxgamerlegendxx1280Ай бұрын
There goes my ghost rider set up😭
@mrwhitey2027Ай бұрын
@xxgamerlegendxx1280 sorry 😅 I'm an artist and seeing this re used things makes me angry to to point on creating ideas ahaha
@xxgamerlegendxx1280Ай бұрын
@@mrwhitey2027 i understand well RIP me I guess
@xxgamerlegendxx1280Ай бұрын
@@mrwhitey2027 I just wished they would had more creativity with it, like it's a new mechanic put in some effort you know
@xxgamerlegendxx1280Ай бұрын
@@mrwhitey2027 for example dragon and skeletal dragon could of had a sick animation
@VoltPirateАй бұрын
What a huge disappointment
@VoidedNullityАй бұрын
school identity is ruined
@gembardon2486Ай бұрын
Ice defo got the worst ones they really do want to keep ice the worst school
@michaelacaleb7919Ай бұрын
Wow, they’re actually so lazy. 😭 Ice cat and evil magmaman, really? Most of these are just the same spell just changed to a different color. Such originality. The only creative one imo is the Mind Blowout. I just don’t get why they had to reuse old spells that were created in the 2000s instead of changing the format entirely? Would’ve been more groundbreaking.
@specterbektormektor8615Ай бұрын
Here me out mind blown out with cosmic background and astral star damage
@jorocАй бұрын
who tha fk will use those fizzling spells?!
@Cola2013_1Ай бұрын
Uh new players duh
@Niick_RochefortАй бұрын
Those forest lord fusion spells look so janky, they need work.
@EtherealistEquinoxАй бұрын
They just recycled the same animations lmao,ki devs are garbage
@VoltPirateАй бұрын
Yeah this is insane
@Cola2013_1Ай бұрын
Its just the new players
@bijanheydari9810Ай бұрын
going through the entire video, a good 60-70% of these spells are just recycled TCs, item cards, mutates, or boss spells (not to mention the 'new' ones look worse imo). congrats KI
@NotSketchedАй бұрын
that was literally the entire point. from the get-go they were upfront about the fact that they were going to be using all of the old non-trainable spells as a way to combine school identities utility wise. this shouldn't have been a surprise and was never presented as one
@bankait_rex1860Ай бұрын
So let me get this straight , this people could literally just give us the option to learn this spells and keep the whole vibe of uniqueness to every single wizards and just put like quest or adventures for us to learn it, instead the screwed up the whole aspect of the game and give us this colluded combination crap just to learn spells that were already in the game? holy crap talking about waste of TIME!
@specterbektormektor8615Ай бұрын
Well you should have expected this since arc 2-3 bosses are dual schooled mostly arc3
@Cola2013_1Ай бұрын
If they use a satyr fire?
@cent5399Ай бұрын
this entire comment section bro 😭😭😭 like can yall at least mention the actual spells instead of complaining about reskins?
@suibhneeАй бұрын
the actual spells are useless so… what is there to talk about?
@cent5399Ай бұрын
@ you didnt even take the time to look at what all the spells actually even do 😭
@AgilityFireАй бұрын
@@cent5399 I did, they suck. only a few are viable even in pvp
@ImpassiveSargeАй бұрын
@@AgilityFire Yeah most of these are garbage. Especially when you realize the time it takes to get max rank. Which just further locks casual players out of it AND is another gatekeep to pvp if they were good for it. Kingsisle gonna need to redo the entire combat system at some point with how this keeps going. Because if they want a roshambo style so badly, aoes would need to not be a thing. And the only way aoes won't be a thing, is if they aren't needed and cheating bosses are changed
@suibhneeАй бұрын
@@cent5399 that’s definitely an assumption lol
@takemytakiАй бұрын
WASTE OF A LAVA LORD
@crescent077Ай бұрын
Yeah again and again exactly the same animations, textures and models. They are already overcooked with all of these. I really miss so much the time this game feels like unique and exciting. I quit 2 years ago and still waiting for a notable update but it seems this will never happen. Kingisle should not have selled this game to Gamigo for sure.
@NeJaukuZiuretiАй бұрын
Cringe spells
@trackscout4893Ай бұрын
The concept is cool but these are pretty much useless for pve and only seem to really have any use in pvp.