WOKE British Comedians Are the Absolute WORST - Graham Linehan

[@shredx81]

I like how Frankie Boyle can make jokes about Jade Goody dying of cervical cancer or Katie Price’s disabled son and then claim how horrible Jeremy Clarkson is.

[@matthewcoombs3282]

Both are misanthropic. Left or right makes no difference. However the left think their shit smells better of course.

[@BrianBoru5523]

He's an irony free zone!

[@StillAliveAndKicking_]

@@shredx81 Yes, Clarkson who supports British farmers and Help for Heros, how dreadful.

[@napalmslayer]

​@@StillAliveAndKicking_boyle and Clarkson are both twats

[@chrisbfreelance]

He is the Angry Scotsman schtick done to death, Sadowitz did it years before.

[@herbiegobananas1744]

Stewart Lee is a genius. And so am I because I like him

[@Gos1234567]

hes a twat

[@insightphoto]

I don't understand what point yu are trying to make

[@pickersplayspop]

was he the main one?

[@davidthompson9141]

I hate liberals but Stewart Lee is hilarious...a master of comedic performance.

[@nameaccount8749]

@@davidthompson9141 a master of repeating himself endlessly

[@brutusoftroy2810]

The problem we have is an epidemic of cowardice in the middle classes.

[@pigknickers2975]

💯

[@KnellofPartingDay]

It's not that they're cowards, they genuinely believe the nonsense.

[@pigknickers2975]

@@KnellofPartingDay and that is because they are intellectual cowards. They are all in 80s student politics for life because they are scared to see and know more.

[@brutusoftroy2810]

@KnellofPartingDay I know they do sometimes but you'll be surprised how many think like us but are too cowardly to say it. It's the cycle, middle class twerps get seduced by some foreign ideology and us common folk have to sort it, either by sweat or by blood.

[@mr.mayhem7402]

The problem is the middle class. Read George Orwell's essay, "The Lion and the Unicorn."

[@andrewjackson8089]

Frankie Boyle has to be the absolute worst!

[@TheZackkary1]

He’s the biggest hypocrite ever. And an absolute pussy as well.

[@onlyonewhyphy]

From one of the best. _"From"._

[@matthewcoombs3282]

Nickrd his shtick from Jerry Sadowitz, a comedian with 100% more integrity. Hence why you don't see him on MSM.

[@BenSmith-od8fc]

🤣 Go back to your Michael McIntyre and Rosie Jones you wet wipe.

[@BenSmith-od8fc]

You'd better stick to Michael McIntyre and Rosie Jones then 🤢

[@imstillhere6678]

Give it to them straight Graham, like a pear cider that’s made from 100% pears.

[@neilsun2521]

Repetition isn't as funny as Stewart Lee likes to think it is.

[@jasonlawson01]

Shitbottle

[@medalion1390]

@@neilsun2521 Yeah but at least he gives it to them straight, like a pear cider that's made from 100% pears.

[@sparagmos4748]

​@@neilsun2521Smugness definitely isn't as funny as Stewart Lee thinks.😒

[@K33f11]

100% pear s

[@stevenmurray5715]

Stewart Lee has the best delivery of any stand up comedian,if he is "woke" so be it...but he is fucking funny!

[@77jamess]

I just like how he gives it to the audience straight… like a pear cider, made from 100% pears.

[@stevenmurray5715]

Yes,just because you do not like his principles does not mean you should follow the narrative and not watch him!!..I like lineham's comedy,I don't like Miranda Hart or Rosie Jones or Sarah millicent,am I against women!!...

[@neilsun2521]

He does have great timing and delivery. But his opinions on the working class whom he hates with a passion are the opinions of an intellectual-midget.

[@Stevo_YouTube]

I think Bernard Manning was better but Stewart Lee does have an inimitable style that makes me laugh even if I hate most of what he stands for.

[@lextalonis839]

@@77jamess Yeah but Ted from Hi De Hi has “Let Himself Go”….🤦🏼‍♂

[@supercadcc]

I've always loved Grahams work. He's an amazing comedy writer. But my god, he has become consumed by bitterness. He makes a lot of very sensible points, but he loses me with his naming and shaming. I dont get the impression he is willing to discuss this topic with anyone who doesn't wholly agree with him. It's such a shame to see a great talent lost to a temporary movement in society, which is not really doing anywhere near the kind of damage he thinks it is.

[@TheRealist2022]

@supercadcc People SHOULD be exposed for having such a lack of morality and being two-faced. I'm with Glinner all the way.

[@supercadcc]

@TheRealist2022 Morals change all the time. I don't think the people Linehan lists are two faced, they are very much one faced. You can't have a conversation with someone who isn't willing to have a conversation, much like yourself with YOUR BIG SHOUTY CAPITAL LETTERS!

[@Hugh_Morris]

Tbh he got totally cancelled, he has a right to be a bit bitter

[@richardpreston8309]

Agree. Think this always happens to contrarians in the end: they lose sight of the lines they are crossing.

[@tatata1543]

@@supercadcc The guy had completely lost the plot over this, to the extent he is willing to ruin his life. Utterly bizarre behaviour and not the actions of a rational, well adjusted person.

[@donaldjuan4934]

Graham Linehan unfortunately got a bee in his bonnet about an episode of the IT Crowd on Twitter and then destroyed his entire career, marriage and life.

[@sparagmos4748]

@@donaldjuan4934 well it was a bit more than that🫤

[@mattrishton]

troll schill

[@sparagmos4748]

@mattrishton Or someone who feels passionately about things. He's certainly not made money from sticking to his beliefs, and he has lost a lot. So hardly a 'schill'.

[@tatata1543]

@@mattrishtonshill

[@tatata1543]

@@sparagmos4748They were referring to the op. How could you manage to misinterpret that?

[@kimholland9316]

Father Ted and Count Arthur Strong are comedy legends

[@arnold-hu4vk]

Count Arthur Strong was not created by Graham Linehan, he existed for many, many years before Linehan came along and made the shit TV show

[@kimholland9316]

@arnold-hu4vk I know. I used to listen to his radio show.

[@neilwilson5785]

And the IT crowd. We all agree, but there is an issue on top of that, and I can't quite pin it down...

[@johngalantini6910]

they're also fictional characters.

[@megacapulet6470]

Graham Linehan has written some of the very best comedy over the past 20+ years and has more courage and integrity than most of his old comedian/writer pals ;It stinks that he is prevented from working and gifting us with his great work, I thought the Cass report would change things and people would wake up to this harmful nonsense .

[@pauldootson7889]

As graham said the people who promoted these trans ideals will die on the hill saying they were right to do so, as to admit they were wrong would be to admit to the harm and abuse they've committed against children for their own feelings of self righteousness, all the increasing evidence like the cass report will be dismissed as the frightening reality of what they've done is too much for them to face

[@elcorado83]

Integrity? Graham is as two faced and hypocritical as they come-he was the FIRST to ban people from his social media, AND encourage his fans to attack them, if they disagreed with him about feminism. Now its 2 years later, and now that HE got banned and cancelled himself he has the cheek to whine and whinge about being cancelled!!!! HE was EAGER to do it himself when it suited him!

[@brainofmarcy]

He doesn't work anymore because he's not funny anymore. That's what happens when you become a loser who spends all day on Twitter. A huge waste of his talent and a real fucking shame.

[@b.bradley6525]

The difference is Graham has acknowledged what he did and apologised for what he did. He publicly stood up and apologised to Count Dankula on camera for demonising him.

[@stephen300o6]

The irony of using the phrase 'wake up' is hilarious.

[@sn4rff]

nothing but love for graham linehan ❤

[@williampotato1221]

Careful now.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

​@@williampotato1221You're a 🥔.

[@unowen-nh9ov]

He has educated me, not only are women being abused but @ risk youth are being tortured to death, sterilized, mutilated, murdered.

[@gordonmcadam2400]

​@@unowen-nh9ov 😂😂😂😂 no they're not you stupid cnut.

[@BrianBoru5523]

He was quite woke himself until they came for him!

[@danielspencer4157]

I cannot listen to Radio 4 live anymore. Every time I listen live I hear some insufferable woke comedian telling me that if I don't find their jokes funny I am Hitler.

[@SashaLea-g5j]

When did that come in?

[@Jay-Kay-Em]

BBC full stop.

[@lukebarton5075]

@daniel Stop chatting bollocks ya plum.

[@dannydreadnought-xk4qx]

​@@SashaLea-g5j These days, if you even just say you're English...

[@Doublebasist]

Could you give an example of that please?

[@smythharris2635]

Snobbery is at the core of it. The left-leaning chattering classes are consumed by it.

[@neilsun2521]

S. Lee hates football 'cause it represents the working class.

[@Nowhy]

envy and ressentment...

[@Nowhy]

oh and nihilism...

[@philipferguson8570]

They're not really leftwing at all; they are just moral cowards.

[@BrianHart-s2d]

​@@Nowhyfear and loathing!

[@SP-1414]

He is of course 100% correct and he has my admiration and solidarity. The spinelessness of these so called progressives is very evident.

[@AEJones-dl9nn]

I used to watch panel shows. I wouldn’t be caught dead watching them now. They’re all so shit.

[@kangaroo3708]

Stop trying to appear smart by using big words…. No one gives a fuck about your admiration

[@KawazukiYama]

He did exactly what he’s describing woke people doing for five years on Twitter, he’s a cunt, and a massive spineless hypocrite who got found out.

[@wutangpaul]

Pretty cringe tbh

[@eddiedunn8061]

imagine their shit dinner parties where they have to display their worthiness.

[@fanfeck2844]

Stewart Lee is the James O’Brien of comedy

[@neilsun2521]

Definitely!

[@jasonlawson01]

When did this come in?...

[@brightonduder]

@@jasonlawson01Tuesday

[@harbl99]

I am so stealing that line. Well played.

[@jasonlawson01]

These days if you say yr a Stewart Lee fan, they lock you up...and throw you in jail.

[@missluna5]

As a woman I am eternally grateful to Graham for speaking out and standing up for us. Wonderful man.

[@wutangpaul]

As a father of children, I am eternally grateful to Graham for showing me the opposite of what to do.

[@knikolas3145]

@@wutangpaulyour poor kids. And you are a poor father.

[@lukebarton5075]

@luna Get in touch with him. I hear he’s in need of wife having driven his previous one away.

[@neilsun2521]

It's not just women he's speaking out for -- he's speaking out for children in general; and any young people who've been duped into carving themselves up.

[@marty1459]

@@neilsun2521 Yeah that's what transphobic people say all the time. Who are you to lecture anyone on who they can and can't be?

[@joescott5322]

British standup scene is horrendous

[@every1665]

Same in Australia. The 'comedians' freeze still so the audience know when to clap or try laughing.

[@neilsun2521]

It's never been worse.

[@chrisbfreelance]

And TV, panel shows all dire pathetic drivel from the same factory produced drones.

[@AutomaticDuck300]

Did stand-up for a while but I quit. I was quite good and non-PC. I feel like I need to get back into it, to show people it can be done.

[@Dob_Ogurt]

Stewart Lee is a legend though, he's our best comic for sure

[@microfarming8583]

When i was a teenager i used to go and see Stewart Lee and Richard Herring. Now looking back they are very clearly regime comedian's. They are both Oxford educated NPC's and cowards in my opinion. Graham has a backbone as hes Irish and its in his DNA to fight against tyranny.

[@neilsun2521]

Lee and Herring painted themselves as outsiders but the only thing they were outside was the working class. (Oxbridge toffs, basically.)

[@Lee-bv6iv]

​@@neilsun2521I used to live near Uxbridge. Pretty standard outer London suburb, from what I remember? Don't recall many, if any, toffs?

[@tonemc6047]

@@neilsun2521Did you mean Oxbridge?

[@franceshaypenny8481]

Ireland is as much buckling under leftist groupthink as any other western nation at the moment.

[@matthewcoombs3282]

As an English man myself I have to say lots of English people lack guts. A national characteristic to be ostrich like about what is going on around them.

[@LUFC123]

So called "comedians" like Nish Kumar, James Acaster and even Stewart Lee are absolutely dreadful

[@Isleofskye]

Rosie Jones or are we not allowed to think that?

[@ciaranblake3398]

Yes, all wankers.

[@WondrousMindTrick]

James Acaster is naturally funny and eccentric which makes it more disappointing. Aren't people on the spectrum supposed to not care as much about fashionable beliefs and avoid getting sucked unto cults? Double disappointment.

[@sticksman1979]

@@IsleofskyeThink it and said it.

[@m62films-upthenorth]

There isn't even a connection between those three stylistically. Lee and Kumar are opposite ends of the comedy spectrum completely; arguably Kumar isn't even on that spectrum at all.

[@kroon275]

If adults are keeping quiet about this to protect other adults or friendships or social circles then they are more disgusting and cowardly than I already thought they were 🤮

[@derekwhite2929]

Ignorance is bliss like nothing else is

[@dfrntlvltc5095]

Wake up kid.

[@williampotato1221]

I'm getting the word.....

[@carlisroy6666]

​@@dfrntlvltc5095 Who are you talking to?

[@neilsun2521]

That's the modern day left for you. In a nutshell. (Anyone who tries to break free is cast out and smeared.)

[@cordyone]

Graham is right, they are all terrified. Its quite pitiful, really. I grew up watching people like Adam Buxton and Stuart Lee. But I have no respect for them now. They are weak, scared little men.

[@samhudson1169]

Not a fan of the woke stuff, but Stuart Lee is still the greatest stand up on the planet

[@mathewseddon8825]

​@@samhudson1169 No he's not. He just repeats things for dramatic effect over and over and over again, and his fans go crazy for it.

[@bobcunningflaps7479]

Stewart lee makes me laugh a lot but I've always known he's a complete snob that id probably hate in real life

[@clivet3252]

​@@bobcunningflaps7479 Stewart Lee is a world class pisstaker which you would think would put him at odds with the woke mob. The problem is as you get older you either move to the right or disappear up your own backside.

[@clivet3252]

​@@samhudson1169 I think Trump has surpassed him now.

[@AirdrieRambler]

Not one example of Stewart Lee "throwing someone under the bus". Perhaps Graham is annoyed that having thrown himself under the bus, no one wishes to follow his example?

[@fgcp2964]

Yeah this the key to the whole right wing grift: the persecution complex.

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

100%, he definitely believes what he's saying and it isn't a grift. In his mind everyone secretly agrees with him and is too scared to say it rather than, say, having different views. It's genuinely a little sad to see what hes become, going from a great writer to someone whos life is consumed by this one non-issue.

[@WarMomPT]

Graham's biggest problem is that he wants to remain in showbusiness, a scene about connections, while maintaining grudges and building more of them.

[@vincentlauria7857]

Keep fighting Graham - you have far more support from normal, decent, sane people than it probably seems. Thank you.

[@neilbower9052]

LMFAO, you call people like YOU, 'normal' & 'decent'?

[@DessieTots]

Bill Bailey won Strictly Dancing ffs and then did idiotic adverts for Currys electrical. That's all anyone needs to know.

[@clivet3252]

Then cut his hair so he could support Starmer without looking like a weird old lefty.

[@clivet3252]

@@gpw203 I don't think it's about money with him, he strikes me as the type who wants to fit in with the gang.

[@allymcmoist1484]

It always seems to be the case where "counter-culture" or "edgy" comedians mostly eventually become the establishment.

[@clivet3252]

@@allymcmoist1484 I don't think Bill Bailey was ever that

[@allymcmoist1484]

@@clivet3252 I was thinking more about the Frankie Boyle's (Whom I seen in The Stand in Edinburgh long before he was famous) & the completely un-funny Stewart Lee's.

[@daveplunkett4273]

One of the all-time top TV comedy writers became completely obsessed with this one topic. So obsessed that it has cost him his career, his marriage and his mental health. It's such a sad case.

[@lewissmith350]

It was important to fight against this orwellian idealogy that there were politicians, and celebrities to fight back. JK Rowling and Richard Dawkins, Ricky gervais, were too big to cancel, the small fry like the odd dance director or social worker were successfully cancelled by orwellian Bigots on this issue, but linehan was in between, more a back room staff guy who most people of that ilk were successfully cancelled, but as he appeared on camera every so often, he was able to use this, and ironically he has become more famous for opposing this orwellian ideai than the comedy circuit he has been banned from. His voice is important in fighting this obviously hateful orwellian idealogy. I am not saying he is perfect, but he is a bit of a dark angel on this issue, really annoys the trans rights bully wing. Love to trans people, but the gender deology fanatics is so bad, even their moderates campaign for jailing people who don't agree with them. I m am their main sportsperson in Britain said JK Rowling should be arrested, that's mad extreme.

[@PE-dq2em]

Stewart Lee is obnoxious.

[@neilsun2521]

Indeed. He's as mainstream as it gets. (Always hated the way he used The Fall to try and look cool by proxy.)

[@Domn879]

That’s his whole act. Hardly a revelatory comment.

[@michaeldunning5923]

And rarely funny

[@shoeflaps]

Stewart Lee is a genius and so am I because I like him.

[@Domn879]

@ Graham Linehan is a hero and so I am because I nod at his videos.

[@blundershock]

Graham Linehan has let himself go...

[@MrGenedancingmachine]

I will never forgive Graham Linehan for his continued disgraceful behaviour during the gamergate skirmish, everything that happened to him since is the chickens coming home to roost

[@sparagmos4748]

Let it go laddie, Dankula did!

[@Hereford1642]

I would be interested to hear a summary of what you are talking about there. My own position is that nobody should be cancelled for any opinion or work of art at all. America did it with McCarthy and eventually came to realize it as a mistake and now it is being repeated with the opinions inverted.

[@ChimpingBulldog]

He did form part of the woke establishment back then but, as a Christian, I forgive him.

[@richardhebden5603]

What?

[@I-have-blue-hair]

Not this nonsense again, let it go

[@neilgarvey2201]

It's interesting when you hear claims made in conversations like the one made about Adam Buxton being rude to Robbie Williams on his podcast, and then you listen to the said podcast and hear the two of them having a very open and heartfelt conversation about insecurity, death and the challenges of life.

[@ianlarsen]

Yes, and Buxton was openly embarrassed about being snooty about Williams in the past.

[@tewrgh]

It's almost like Linehan is that fussed about lying

[@tiredman4540]

This insanity has proliferated in the corporate world by incentivising the career paths of sycophants. How it works is that if you regurgitate "trans-inclusive" language, you get the nod that it will help your career progression., and from then on it builds and builds...

[@m62films-upthenorth]

Where have you seen this?

[@tiredman4540]

With my own eyes. Just look where Stonewall get their money from.

[@sparagmos4748]

​@@m62films-upthenorth The banks have been at it. I can't remember which one, but there was a kerfuffle a few months ago because one of them was really pushing for pronoun declaration. John Lewis did it too, AND allowing men in the women's changing rooms / staffroom, can't quite remember.

[@Nowhy]

"just one seat at the table"...

[@tiredman4540]

@@Nowhy Then another, and another...

[@hazza5999]

They throw you in prison if you say you're English these days 😂

[@db4035]

Is that you Morrissey?

[@hazza5999]

@db4035 🤣🤣

[@stevencopeland1401]

@@hazza5999 when did this come in??

[@Tuffjobs]

Stewart Lee is a very clever man.

[@hazza5999]

@@stevencopeland1401 Dunno. I'm quoting Stewart Lee.

[@johnmclean1046]

It is insane that we have to have this discussion, men are men women are women, we can’t change sex or alter our physiology. Graham Linehan is not only right but sensible.

[@facthunt2facthunt245]

True. Only women can give birth and only men can produce sperm. Biology matters. Tomboys and effeminate males are getting swept up in a social contagion which wouldn't have happened to them 20 years ago.

[@KevinSheedy10]

That’s that sorted then. Can you do Israel Palestine next please? What are your opinions on gender and woman having jobs?

[@vc4546]

@@KevinSheedy10 2 groups disagreeing over religious views, in the 21st century, in the age of information? - Just because one believes that there is a lack of choice when it comes to gender at birth, as with skin colour or location of birth, it doesn't mean that one would also believe in archaic or patriarchal roles.

[@KevinSheedy10]

@@vc4546 My point was that many people think gender (as opposed to biological sex) is at least partly a social construct. But that flew over your head.

[@vc4546]

@@KevinSheedy10 Jesus man, is that how you have a conversation face to face? Second line and you're already throwing insults?

[@harrypalmer3481]

Graham Linehan gets my vote - a person of real substance.

[@Stupoider]

A shame that substance is also brown, sticky and smells like shit!

[@commentorcommentor-s6l]

That substance is electricity and ham

[@danw1086]

Stewart lee is hilarious. He's the pear cider made from 100% pears of comedy.

[@shughy1]

Graham is a legend and history is already changing to be kinder to him as more people wake up from chronic wokeness to realise he was right all along

[@geryainte]

He's still divorced though.........

[@bignasty6395]

What do you mean "right all along"? Graham is incredibly "woke" and has tried to cancel several comedians over jokes.

[@shughy1]

@geryainte yeah his wife was an idiot, but hey better to find that out later than never

[@sparagmos4748]

​@@geryainteLike SO many people.

[@johnnypickering7688]

​@@geryainte probably better off that way

[@jam-nc8ut]

Why does Graham only ever mention women and girls? Why does he never mention the welfare of boys? And Stewart Lee, who is a comedy genius, hasn't been on the BBC for about a decade. And Robbie Williams is a complete narcissist. I love all of Graham's sitcom's, and I think he's in this for the right reason, but I think he's taken an approach that will never persuade people who don't already agree with him.

Divorced man blames woke comedians for his failed marriage.

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

His marriage definitely failed because of wokeness, trans activists, cancel culture and the radical left... Can't see any other possible reason 🙄

[@mlthoma]

Thank you, Graham, for all you've done and are doing for women and children! I loved you for the IT Crowd but I love you even more for this. ♥

[@agra941]

He doesn’t think it’s odd that all of his friends decided to ditch him at the same time? The common factor is Graham Linehan.

[@LukeofSmeg]

But now he's got all these wonderful, definitely not obsessed and toxic friends online!

[@markdavies5508]

Stewart Lee is like modern art. His audience are too scared to admit he's shite because they will be accused of being too thick to "get him".

[@jimmyp7928]

Never bought into the hype surrounding him. Always felt underwhelmed by his act.

[@alanknotts1844]

Totally, he's always been pish 😂😊

[@neilsun2521]

Kind of. He did used to be very good, in my opinion, during his '05/'06 'comeback. It was a clever and subtle act. But has disappeared up its own bung hole some 10 year ago.

[@fusionfan6883]

Thankfully I saw through Lee’s new clothes from day one and always expressed my dislike for his pseudo intellectual schtick🤮 Massive respect to Graham for standing up for the rights of women and children❤️

[@Dob_Ogurt]

But he always makes me laugh, I rarely ever laugh out loud watching comedy on my phone, but Stew gets it done

[@pizzaDhut]

Robbie Williams is NOT a sweet guy, he nearly ruined Gary Barlow's life.

[@eps0m1066]

Thats what important. Take That fans still resentful about past members 😴

[@timedwards5734]

Gary could just ask his MASSIVE SON to sort Robbie out! 😜

[@pitbull2005]

There's one big reason you cannot criticise Graham and that is....Father Ted!

[@richardhebden5603]

"I hear you're a racist now, Father"

[@jules2545]

Graham Linehan would make a real friend.

[@Summer21.]

I agree. I would love to meet him. 😃😊

[@neilsun2521]

@@Summer21. I met him once. In Norwich. I think he was rushing to the train station though, so it was ill-timed! (He had a "what do you want from me" look on his face! lol)

[@Summer21.]

@@neilsun2521 Haha. Oh, I’m sorry about the ill-timed chance of meeting him as he was rushing to the train station in Norwich. 😄

[@danyoutube7491]

What would he make them out of and what gender would the friend be? Perhaps more to the point, would Graham be allowed to change the gender of the friend he was creating half way through, if he had a change of heart or thought a different gender would better suit his creation? Hmmm...

[@jules2545]

@@danyoutube7491 I will have some of what you are smoking.

[@Chief_Brody]

Richard Herring has NEVER been funny. I despise him.

[@viewfromtheeast]

Neither is the left-wing wokerati poster boy Stewart Lee. Linehan has got it spot on about that little cretin, with his fake cockney accent and "right-on", sneering politics.

[@blucow]

This really adds to the debate 🙄

[@joeb5765]

I understand that this is an emotive topic and that the facts are in opposition to many people's instincts. But the scientific and factual evidence is simply indisputable, and it runs completely contrary to everything Linehan says (see below). It's very sad that he has gotten caught up in this. It's a medical issue, and he is not a doctor. I would advise anyone to just look up some basic information and try and have some empathy for these children. Here's a brief summation (link provided below) of the situation: 'The truth is that data from more than a dozen studies of more than 30,000 transgender and gender-diverse young people consistently show that access to gender-affirming care is associated with better mental health outcomes-and that lack of access to such care is associated with higher rates of suicidality, depression and self-harming behavior. (Gender diversity refers to the extent to which a person’s gendered behaviors, appearance and identities are culturally incongruent with the sex they were assigned at birth. Gender-diverse people can identify along the transgender spectrum, but not all do.) Major medical organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the Endocrine Society, the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association, have published policy statements and guidelines on how to provide age-appropriate gender-affirming care. All of those medical societies find such care to be evidence-based and medically necessary.' www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-the-science-on-gender-affirming-care-for-transgender-kids-really-shows/

[@lewissmith350]

But is it fair, to deny biological sex exists, and to label people bigots a d far right for saying in certain situations we can accept it exists and has consequences. Is the pain just being pushed around, with people being ostrichized just for saying biological sex exists,

[@JonHall-t6c]

Finally some facts in the comments. Thank you.

[@ronan3607]

The one thing I am concerned about is the word everyone uses freely.....Children. You said it yourself " have some empathy for these children."..Why is there such a rush to get hormones and surgery done to children who arent legally allowed to do anything else like vote, sex, drink, smoke, go to war, drive etc....but mutilating your body seems perfectly fine. And mental health vs mutilation doesnt seem an equal argument. Giving a 6 yr old puberty/hormone therapy that cant be fully reversed seems to me like abuse. If I let a child eat as much sweets and fatty food they want and they got morbidly obese is that considered abuse or therapy? After all, im just giving them what they want. . except getting fat is actually reversable unlike hormone therapy. The studies you quote say 3/4 are happy? for how long though? 5yrs? 10 yrs?40 yrs? pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10027312/ williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transpop-suicide-press-release/ legitimate source material on the high trans gender suic!de rates etc..Not as happy as you may suggest unfortunately. Adults do what you like, but leave the kids alone. How about we treat mental health issues without surgery and hormones? They dont cut limbs off psychotic patients who REALLY believe they have no legs because that would be insane.

[@joeb5765]

@ronan3607 Thank you for responding in good faith and I appreciate your concerns. I have looked at both of the links you provided. The first link from the National Library of Medicine is a review of studies concerning 'Suicide-Related Outcomes Following Gender-Affirming Treatment.'. The review confirms that the overwhelming majority of studies prove that gender-affirming care reduces suicidal ideation amongst the recipients of said care. Here are some quotes from the article you provided: 1). 'Turban et al. (2020) analyzed data from the 2015 USTS to include “3,494 individuals between the ages of 18 and 36 who ever wanted pubertal suppression as part of their gender-affirming medical care” as an adolescent. The results indicated that 89 (2.5%) of this sample received puberty blockers. Univariate analyses indicated lower odds of lifetime suicidal ideation as well as suicidal ideation within the past year for those who received puberty blockers.' 2). 'Access to these treatments in early adolescence was associated with lower odds of suicidal ideation over the past year compared to those who desired but did not attain these treatments. For late adolescence and for adulthood there were also lower odds of suicidality over the year preceding the survey for those who had access to gender-affirming hormones during those periods of life." 3). 'The suicide-attempt rate before gender-affirming surgery was 29.3%; following gender-affirming surgery, the suicide-attempt rate decreased to 5.1%. Patients who received all of their desired surgeries had lower odds of suicidal ideation and suicide attempt(s) compared to those who desired gender-affirming surgery but had not received any.' So the question then might be (and I think this is your concern?) why is there a higher rate of suicidal ideation in the transgender community? Are transgender people just mentally unstable to begin with? Thankfully the second link you provided (from the UCLA School of Law) addresses these concerns: 'The rates of suicidal ideation and self-injury among transgender people are alarming-particularly for transgender nonbinary adults,” said study author Ilan H. Meyer, Distinguished Senior Scholar of Public Policy at the Williams Institute. “A lack of societal recognition and acceptance of gender identities outside of the binary of cisgender man or woman and increasing politically motivated attacks on transgender individuals, increase stigma and prejudice and related exposure to minority stress, which contributes to the high rates of substance use and suicidality we see among transgender people.” The study also concludes: 'Evidence-based interventions are needed to mitigate the risk of serious mental health outcomes among transgender people,” said lead author Jeremy D. Kidd, Assistant Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Columbia University. “This might include increasing access to gender-affirming care, or improving transgender community connectedness, which are related to lower rates of suicidality.'.

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

I think a big issue is in a lot of peoples minds "Gender affirming care" = "Cutting off someone's tonker" like thats the first port of call. Rather than talking therapies, hormone therapies and all the other care someone gets before surgery. I'm against surgery for children/adolescents, but I live in the real world where a kid can't just walk into a GP's office, say "Sort out my junk" and then be in an operating theatre the next week.

[@Sean-q5j]

So, his only argument is those people are bad because they dared to disagree with him?

[@monkeybudge]

Yeah, he never seem to account for people disagreeing with his opinion. He just infers that they all disagree because they’re evil or afraid to speak up. Heaven forbid they used their mind to come to a different conclusion. If you want to critique things that’s fine. This guy has made it his whole identity and become obsessed to the point that he’s destroying himself.

[@lewissmith350]

​​@@monkeybudgebut are you saying that Stewart lee really believes in gender idealogy. I mean the cool dude American comedians like Chapelle, Joe Rogan and Colin Quinn don't fall in line with that, people who have stronger critical thinking, and high iqs. And have you heard Norm MacDonald on this issue.

[@monkeybudge]

@ Forget technocracy or meritocracy, time comedicocracy

[@Sean-q5j]

@@lewissmith350 Joe Rogan? I saw clips of his latest special. I don't think he qualifies as a comedian any more. Norm MacDonald was Canadian. Do you know who Stuart Lee is married to? He understands gender "idealogy".

[@monkeybudge]

@@Sean-q5j I’m reasonably sure lewissmith was being ironic. He’s not actually holding comedians up as the authority we should listen to for complex social issues.

[@TheRealist2022]

Grahams anger is palpable at about 8:00 talking about Rosie Kay. Absolutely LUDICROUS that a woman can be cancelled from her OWN COMPANY!

[@stevencopeland1401]

Mate, just wait until you hear what they did to Norman Osborne.

[@TheRealist2022]

@@stevencopeland1401 The Green Goblin?

[@IamNotanumber-z3j]

Used to love Stewart Lee , his anti everything said something to me , then he started to show that he wasn’t anti establishment but part of it.

[@sparagmos4748]

But of course, they always revert to type when middle age sets in and they're financially 'comfortable'.

[@Katzenjammer82]

Same, apparently The Character Stewart Lee was the one with the spine and principles all along.

[@danyoutube7491]

What makes him part of 'the establishment'? Not being contrarian to everything that 'the establishment' stands for or says?

[@cb465]

There's alot of celebrities that I will never listen to or watch again due to these issues, the ones who threw Graham under the bus and others. it's cowardly behaviour .

[@AEJones-dl9nn]

Bill bailey was always a dickhead.

[@neilbower9052]

guess what, NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU DO.

[@marmadukesandwich]

He threw himself under the bus.

[@NC-ck5oj]

Stewart Lee is one of the all time greats. The fact that he's liberal is irrelevant. He's completely hilarious and razor sharp

[@garethhughes1167]

Not sure what two white middle class males reeling off a list of comedians they don't like does for gender politics. Am i missing something?

[@johnanthonyp]

Free speech.

[@rael1999]

Why should it matter that they're white ?? Or even middle class for that matter ?? Racism and inverted snobbery isn't a great look !

[@KateWandless]

When you get claps instead of laughs it’s a bit of a giveaway

[@AffectedArea]

lol that's most leftist comedians and all late night network US TV chat shows.

[@ThomasBusby]

That's really good. I'm stealing that.

[@bongohermann6343]

@@ThomasBusby it was already stolen, from Stuart himself. "Was he funny? No, but I agreed the fuck out of it".

[@mkdy218]

Oh spot on with that !!

[@Stupoider]

Vaudeville never recovered from this comment

[@African_Rose]

There are no British comedians....there are just entertainers wasting audiences time until the British bake off gives them a job. UK comedy is awful. Sean Locke was the last good guy we had the rest are waiting on TV deals.

[@SuperNevile]

Ben Elton co-wrote the brilliant Blackadder series with Richard Curtis. Unfortunately his "Fatcher" stage comedy got a bit wearing.

[@drengskap]

I used to like Stewart Lee and Bill Bailey as comedians, but now I've lost all respect for them. They have no guts or integrity, they just want to stay employed by the BBC.

[@atmywitsend1984]

Same here. Both had me in fits of laughter. And I am certain they are still funny guys,but they have a platform and an audience,and could help end the insanity,and real world harm,if they only had a spine.

[@ICT17]

Are either of them actually employed by the BBC? As far as I can see Stewart Lee's last show for the BBC was in 2016.

[@richardharrity1389]

Neither work for the bbc, they work for themselves cock

[@Doublebasist]

Or maybe they have a progressive nature to the world and the issues people have and find compassion . Could you give an example of something they have said that you dislike?

[@davidpoetry1491]

actually, it's the opposite; they have too much integrity for you. just go back to being confused about whether to approach a woman in a bar or not even though you never will. cheers.

[@monty3854]

He's the 41st best stand-up ever.

[@hotstepofficial]

Couldn’t agree more about Stewart Lee et al. Absolute embarrassment.

[@neilsun2521]

Ashamed to say I paid to see that shill at the Soho Theatre in 2006. I wonder if he's always secretly been this bad, or whether he's just become so entrenched in his upper class mainstream clique that it's had an effect on him over the past 20 years?!

[@Matt-km7yk]

He's probably a bit too high brow for you mate, stick to Mrs Brown's Boys

[@sorbofunn3036]

@@Matt-km7yk Stuart's too much of a snivelling little coward for my taste

[@restlesscow2137]

​@sorbofunn3036 Where as you watching Mrs Brown's Boys is heroic. You're very brave for enjoying it. Well done you!

[@sorbofunn3036]

@@restlesscow2137 Everybody knows Mrs Browns boys is shit & Lee is a self-serving coward who's not got the courage to speak what he knows to be the truth.

[@drxym]

See the problem here is that the people criticizing Linehan aren't all "woke". Some might be, and some are definitely not. The fundamental issue is Linehan opened his big gob and said a bunch of offensive crap and didn't bother to qualify or justify it in any way that could be construed as a reasoned opinion or point of view. And then he kept digging. And now he's a pariah. I think that is the major difference between himself, and some other people who have opinions on things like trans. For example I think JK Rowling makes completely legitimate points and attempts to discuss them in a reasonable way even if some of her opponents (and supporters) are extremely unreasonable. There are others who also have opinions between biological and identified gender. But Linehan isn't in that group. He should have kept out of it, or at least gone in with a point. So I think what has happened to him is self inflicted. He should look in the mirror if he wants to see who to blame for this.

[@mikethebloodthirsty]

I know people, MASSIVE Harry Potter fans who got rid of all their books etc after she dared to voice her opinion, they'd disagree with you.

[@drxym]

@@mikethebloodthirsty I'm sure there are people like that. I've encountered lunatics accusing her of "trans genocide". It's kind of stupid that people read all her books but can't even read what she said about trans rights or why it's nothing like the crazy bananas straw man they're attacking.

[@NPSee-dv2xr]

Herring, Lee and Buxton simp hard for leftist wokery.

[@lewissmith350]

What did he say, that you regard to be offensive crap.

[@schiz0phren1c]

I had a bit of a surprise the other day when a(so I thought) strong man said "I just don't want to get into it" about the current wars...there are many, many people with their heads in the sand about this...

[@cb465]

indeed, this and moany other things. I;ve given up on some people, they are too entrched in the 'narrative' to be accepting of looking further.

[@madcyclist58]

It was Paul Whitehouse falling in line that saddened me the most.

[@lookandlisten5740]

@@madcyclist58 - I think he's a Quare now..yes, yes definitely a Quare.

[@leboeuf05]

What did he do?

[@seyerus]

@@lookandlisten5740Ha ha 🤭

[@Supersleuth42]

Well, have you seen his wife?………..Just saying, we’ll leave it there.

[@Matt-km7yk]

What do you mean 'falling in line'? Wouldn't agreeing with you instead be also 'falling in line'? Can't people have different opinions to you, or does that offend you? Snowflake

[@denzel270]

I detest The Last Leg and the people on it. Have I got News for You used to be political satire, I can't watch it now. Hislop is so smug and partisan.

[@johnmclean1046]

I was always baffled by the last leg, an Australian one legged “ comedian “ criticising the uk ? Does Australia never do anything wrong and the other two ?

[@stephentaylor993]

Watch hislop take down the post office and tell me he's smug

[@Hereford1642]

@@stephentaylor993 Hislop is well informed and can be very funny. He can also be smug at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive.

[@joolz-hearall1p126]

Many who are right are smug about it: does it not therefore standard to reason that many who are smug are right?

[@ChimpingBulldog]

What is Josh Widdecombe's disability?

[@michaeldoolan7595]

English Irish Welsh and Scottish humour was peerless. We are the world's experts at taking the piss out of the world, each other, and ourselves without getting the hump. If you can't laugh at yourself, you can't laugh at others. We are losing something unique on the planet the gift of not taking ourselves to seriously and looking on " The Bright side of life."",

[@bar10ml44]

There is no such thing as the bright side. Only darkness and evil. Having a sense of humour is now very dangerous

[@voodoosurgeon9337]

Well said. I have taken much pride in it❤ Many banter battles won and lost😅

[@restlesscow2137]

You should like Stewart Lee then, a fine example of self deprecation

[@DarrenLiverpool]

Is the trans subject not a really big topic that needs a sensible conversation in society, rather than militant statements from both sides. Rather than denounce without merit, the opposing sides' argument. Society should talk. Graham is a remarkable talent. The way he has gone about his messaging is questionable, but some of his questions are reasonable.. As are the desire for inclusion for trans people, who have existed as long as there have been humans. None of us have the answers on our own. It's only by coming together do we solve it.

[@liverpoolpictorial]

Whenever I see Graham, I just want to give the lad a big hug. He's been through so much shit. He's one of the gratest comedy writers of the 20th century and I'm sure he will be in the 21st too when he eventually writes his comedy about this transgender fad.

[@lukebarton5075]

I know right. Whenever I hear the word victim I picture his big crying face.

[@liverpoolpictorial]

@@lukebarton5075 I think I see what you may have done there, if you included commas in your reply.

[@KevinSheedy10]

@@lukebarton5075There needs to be an intervention at some stage. Such bitterness isn’t healthy.

[@TheWorldisAccessible]

"She was only trying to make a point about how her sex was important to her and then she got cancelled!!" ... Sir, you need to polish your gaslighting techniques.

[@louismcteggart]

The brave walk alone

[@ROC14088]

Love that

[@I-have-blue-hair]

Except on twitter where they froth at mouth in their millions

[@CraigNiel]

Agree with Mr. Linehan 100%. You are not alone in your thinking, the vast majority (in my opinion) agree with you! Keep fighting! 👍👍

[@MrUmandMrEr]

Good for you, Father!!!

[@Cakeashake]

This reminds me of Father Ted's Golden Cleric speech

[@Paul.R.F]

It’s political correctness gone mad. I remember when you used to be able to get your whole family and jump in a threshing machine and now they’re going: “oh, they’ve banned Christmas”. It’s political correctness gone mad.

[@moc9893]

I actually used to like Stewart Lee 10-15 years ago but I had no interest in politics at that age so a lot of his shtick went right over my head. It's clear to me now that man is super woke.

[@neilsun2521]

Same. It was when he started mentioning his lefty politics without actually saying anything. He knew he could get a cheap laugh from his student audience by just mentioning "UKIP" in a sarcastic way; but wouldn't actually address any of the concerns raised by UKIP at the time.

[@Domn879]

@@neilsun2521You know he is a comedian right?

[@pyeriotsquad]

​@Domn879 is he? I thought he was a whiny regime man.

[@Domn879]

@@pyeriotsquad No, he is a comedian. The thing you said isn’t a thing.

[@menshevik1012]

@@Domn879is he though…..really?

[@rc5759]

Stewart Lee is dreadfully afraid of losing the student audience? Ah, c'mon now, Dougal!

[@ExHaste]

stewart Iee is 100000000000000x funnier than graham Limpdick

[@stevepayne5965]

That's a low bar, but you're not wrong.

[@terryboland3816]

OK incel 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@artofsam]

Stewart Lee is undoubtedly an amazing stand up maybe even the best, but being funny doesn't save you from being a far left hypocrite when it comes to genuine real world issues.

[@denythenaysayer]

Talking about how he's been thrown under a bus but is namechecking others.....i never had Stuart Lee down as someone who avoided any taboo subjects....

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

"I keep a list" he seems like a tragically sad man.

[@beastrabban5991]

As for Stewart Lee, he and Herring were sneering at whatever they decided was 'mediocre' when they had their series Fist of Fun. They joked you couldn't et back at them for being mediocre as well, 'cause they knew it already. So there you: they're self-admitted mediocrities.

[@mabusestestament]

Fist of Fun?

[@Isleofskye]

@@mabusestestament You remember "Welcome To The Fist Of Fun".It was Madnes..

[@mabusestestament]

@ No I haven’t. Fist of Fun sounds like a porn movie🍻

[@thedirectorschair1054]

@@mabusestestament It had an annoying orange.

[@mabusestestament]

@@Isleofskye No never heard of it, sounds to me like adult entertainment🍻

[@xensonar9652]

People in the future will look back on Graham Linehan the same way people now look back on those who used to make these same arguments about gay people.

[@AffectedArea]

You're so out of touch it's painful. You're invested in the eternal leftist regime timeline and its permanent revolution. Most people are not.

[@paintsilj]

Stewart Lee 🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@Dob_Ogurt]

He is the best stand up though

[@alstrong5115]

Came here to enjoy some Stewart Lee hate

[@paintsilj]

@@Dob_Ogurt for curing insomnia and those with weak, woke minds.

[@jamesmcc5147]

@@Dob_Ogurt Stewart Lee is an abject coward. and an establishment stooge.

[@Scripture-Man]

He's really let himself go.

[@jexxajess6837]

Stuart Lee, the least funniest man in the world.. Frankie Boyle the most offensive comedian ever, now gone to the dark side and finding offense in others, yeah right... Graham is brilliant, been treated abysmaly..

[@ChimpingBulldog]

What about Stewart Lee? 😂

[@dddgtsd]

41st best stand up I think you'll find.

[@unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765]

British comedy is terrible now. All panel shows with the same left BBC activists jumping from one show to another.

[@dddgtsd]

if you're judging British comedy on panel shows then I think I've found your problem.

[@johnjoeflanagan]

Graham Linehan is one decent honest person not afraid to put his head above the parapet. We need more like him. The pendulum is beginning to swing the other way. We are indebted to his candour.

[@steved2008]

Is this the guy that wrote F Ted ? If it is he’s a flipping legend

[@Adam-sd2ow]

Of course he is.

[@donaldjuan4934]

He's gone way down hill recently though.

[@Adam-sd2ow]

@@donaldjuan4934 He's not comformimg to bs 99% of us agreed was ridiculous 10 years.

[@donaldjuan4934]

@@Adam-sd2ow Trans people exist, always have, always will. He chose a strange hill to die on, ruined his career, marriage and life. Gained nothing.

[@Adam-sd2ow]

@donaldjuan4934 Yeah the militant extreme ones telling everyone what they should believe and ruining female sports and forcing themselves into female spaces is new and people are sick of it.

[@marsh8417]

Graham is a brave man and an absolute hero.

[@jonescrusher1]

Sad for Graham, chewed up and bitter. The thought that Gold thinks he's landing zingers on such a supremely talented comedian as Stewart Lee is just laughable.

[@scrunts666]

If I was sat there with him I would not be able to resist talking about Father Ted.

[@seaniek9175]

It's ironic that back in the day Graham was part of the same liberal, lefty circle of comedians. Thankfully he has seen the light where other views are allowed

[@DavG88]

Back in the day he was being well paid. Now...not so much. None of this is about ideology. None of this is about taking a stand. Matt Le Tissier was once well paid until he wasn't...then he took this path. This isn't people turning away from the status quo... This is people throwing the status quo under the bus, to borrow from one of Graham's phrases. Forget the left v right, all encompassing political nonsense, what matters is this: the right for us ALL to live in PEACE. Why doesn't Graham want that? It seems like he's angrier at his critics than any trans or queer person, and his comments only compound that.

[@ThomasBusby]

I got blocked by him on twitter in 2014 for the mildest criticism of his hyper woke views. He used to be one of them, 100%, so he's come along way.

[@neilsun2521]

'cappuccino sippin' north London lefties' -- my relatives used to call them, back when I was one in the '00s. (It was meant with affection but was accurate.)

[@bobboonah]

The problem for the left is that if you can logically discriminate based on gender, then you can also do it based on race. Unless you want to deny race is an objective thing. You are dammed if you do and you are damned if you don't.

[@bobboonah]

Censored!

[@marcuscoquer5958]

I’ve never quite been sure what Stuart Lee is for, or why.

[@mobsiesixsixsix9785]

He really can't understand why most of these people don't want him in their social circle. None so blind.

[@lewissmith350]

But surely it is as they fear the orwellian power of gender idealogy activists.

[@kristianturner-zq2fm]

James acaster need I say more

[@Casualclips17]

Enlighten me what did he do?

[@menshevik1012]

@@Casualclips17exactly.

[@kristianturner-zq2fm]

@@Casualclips17 become a comedian

[@stephentaylor993]

I agree he's as,funny as a,bag of crap

[@sparagmos4748]

Omg he's annoying🤔

[@michaelsimpson4400]

Graham Linehan did what was completely not in his own financial interests, what was not easy but was hard but right. You can see this isn't a personal grift, it's a conviction and add all of that together, this is what kids should aspire to be. Be the goat, not the sheep.

[@misterhughes.2935]

These people are basically supporting a Westernised version on FGM.

[@beastrabban5991]

Very low of Buxton to sneer at Robbie Williams. Williams really does come across as a genuinely sweet bloke, and very grounded.

[@L1am21]

How can the guy who played with teddy's on ch4 diss anyone.

[@AEJones-dl9nn]

Buxton was always a fuckwit. I remember once on 8ootc he showed this unfunny video of him dancing with louis theroux when they were young. It was literally “look i know louis”. And it felt like everyone was like “awesome dude 🤷🏻‍♂️”

[@Lee-bv6iv]

​@@L1am21Completely off topic, but, great pfp! 👍

[@bennolevin42]

I like Robbie Williams…but ‘grounded’ is not a word I’d use to describe him. He’s into every conspiracy going!

[@L1am21]

@@Lee-bv6iv Real Gz Stay Ruthless.

[@MarkPalmer-t9f]

Does he define "woke" in this interview, or is he just using a "scary" buzzword to promote his personal agenda?

[@ChristopherALewis]

Yhea but they can’t define it.

[@user-gp6cc8jj6d]

They can't define woke, it meant being socially aware from what I know, they just use it as a perogative

[@peteredwards338]

Woke comedians : their cowardice shines through.Went off Bailey when I found he is friends with Brand .

[@neilsun2521]

Brand's been waking up recently. I'd always hated him; but I do agree with a lot of his content he's posted over the last year or so.

[@peteredwards338]

@neilsun2521 I am referring to the other Brand the "big boned"one 😳

[@Eagle-eye-pie]

@@peteredwards338first names are important lol.

[@neilsun2521]

@@peteredwards338 Oh. You mean Jo Brand? Is she still comedy-ing these days? (I haven't watched a TV in 20 years so she hasn't crossed my radar, fortunately.)

[@sratus]

@@neilsun2521 Maybe you should do some reading up on Russell Brand then Neil.

[@snowdog9954]

I love Graham so much. His comedy is brilliant but his fight for women and children is heroic.

[@NPSee-dv2xr]

Richard Herring is an absolute coward. He had been a legend of the nineties, who was mischievous and edgy, but since 2009 he became a comedically cautious, pro-cancellation, anti-Christian, 'orange man bad', woke coward. Stewart Lee is the same he just isn't as desperate for validation from women. But remember.......Graham here WAS EXACTLY the same until he was fully cancelled. To Linehan's credit, when he lost everything, he was red pilled and spoke up against cowards like Herring and Buxton.

[@neilsun2521]

Max respect, Graham! Even though 20 years ago I was a bigger fan of Stewart Lee, he's now establishment "new man" to the core.

[@Kiárán92]

Also, don’t forget Dara O’ Briain he was on the Big fat quiz of the year show one year and told a man was indeed a man dressed in women’s clothing and so on. Now, nope he’s now a woman. Another spineless man.

[@Hereford1642]

And he also claimed that he did not make any jokes about Islam because he is not a muslim and so does not understand it properly. Such a weak excuse for cowardice. Like you have to be whatever it is you make a joke about!

[@ChrisR395]

@@Hereford1642 To be fair, his full bit was: 'There are two reasons I don't make jokes about Islam: 1) I don't know anything about the Muslim faith 2) Neither do you (the audience). We live in a Christian country thus we all know a least something about Christianity - even if we didn't grow up Christian. If he were to make jokes about the 5 pillars, the Kaaba stone, or anything in the Qu'ran or the Hadith - the vast majority of British/Irish/US audiences would not know what he was talking about. Same if he did a bit on Quantum Physics. I agree he is a coward on the trans issue, but not on the Muslim issue - that one makes sense.

[@jamesreynolds4811]

@@ChrisR395why is he a coward on trans issues? Don’t you think that he might just be broadly sympathetic to the issue and, if he has changed his public stance on the issue, that reflects his own changing opinion. There are things I said and opinions I held when I was younger that I don’t hold now. Either because I have a better understanding of the subject, the people it affects or, most likely, both.

[@ChrisR395]

@@jamesreynolds4811 It's possible that he just changed his mind on the issue, but the fact that the BBC will not allow you to appear on any of their shows unless you accept the trans issue makes me think he's paying lip service to the BBC so he can retain his biggest paycheck. I don't blame him for this, it makes sense that he would look after his wallet first and foremost - but pretending to agree with an issue that negatively impacts women and children so you can look good for your employer is certainly not a brave thing to do.

[@BrianHart-s2d]

​@@jamesreynolds4811yeah but learning and time are linear,he doesnt go through life thinking men are men then suddenly grow up to think men can be females,like no,its basic biology and common sense,hes either brainwashed into an ideology or is doing it because it pays and he wouldnt make much stating facts in the modern comedy scene,whatever that is!!

[@Anygodwilldo]

Stuert lee is the Gary Lineker of comedy nowadays, mainstream state-approved opinions, Just more hateful and cowardly He was good in the 90s before he became bitter, dishonest and weak

[@neilsun2521]

Agree. Started off as smart and clever in the '90s on Fist of Fun. Slowly morphed into the opposite.

[@ChimpingBulldog]

Stuert Lee? Never heard of him

[@forfuchsache]

yeah, who is this stooert leigh they're all going on about🤷‍♂️

[@andymerrett]

@@ChimpingBulldog He's not even a real hamster.

[@wolfgangrecordings]

except gary lineker has a long history of being very outspoken against the government on social media, and has been dropped from match of the day *twice* because what he wrote "breached the bbc's rules on impartiality"

[@clivecalculator3300]

It's weird to see mainstream comedy being dismantled today in the same way as Benny Hill was in the 80s.

[@agdewey]

Modern stand-up is so safe and sanitised, it's completely lost it's reason for existing!

[@ArcofZen]

I can't help but think we will look back at this time with horror at the damage caused by this. Pandering to a small but very vocal group who have very questionable motives is never going to end well. Well done on sticking to your principles.

[@fenrifegads5571]

Grahams principals were "ok this is great, lets do it more" until he was kicked out of the club. Now he's been kicked out it's bad, and no one should act like the people in the club do. Or how Graham did when he was in the club. Before he was kicked out. Against his will. Principals indeed.

[@sparagmos4748]

​@@fenrifegads5571I think GL learnt a lot from all that. Dankula accepted his apology, etc.

[@fenrifegads5571]

@@sparagmos4748 I think any supposed lessons learned about how bad the mean people club is are to be taken with a massive grain of salt when they only come after said invidual has been kicked out of the mean people club against his will. Had he not been purity-spiralled out he would still be a full on illiberal left extremist. I don't care what dank does or doesn't do. I am my own man. Without a career in the media I need to safeguard and network for.