Woman Vanished from Boyfriend's Yacht, Then He Replaced the Freezer: PI Tells All

[@sgg200]

Dude got away with murder.

[@1972dsrai]

I’m sure the police on the island do a decent job with day to day crimes, but are probably not equipped to handle cases like this. There were clear lapses in evidence collection which now makes it very hard building a strong cases even though he’s the prime suspect. It seems the police treated him like a grieving husband rather than the potential murderer. He does have history of abuse so he probably did just go too far after an argument.

[@yourlifeisagreatstory]

Every time I hear about an unsolved murder in the V.I’s. there are basic questions left unanswered to the point it just makes the investigators look incompetent. It’s almost as if you want to ⚰️ do it in the VI’s…

[@BL-yj2wp]

Yeah, I don‘t think they have any physical evidence.

[@immapotato1]

@@1972dsrai probably why he picked that location to do it

[@yreasony]

At least SO HE THINKS. The arc of the moral universe is long, but it eventually bends towards JUSTICE!!!!

[@Pippi-Longstocking]

Kudos for this attorney to assist without charge to the family.

[@chhansen9813]

Of course this is free publicity to get his name out there for future investigations, so it aint free.

[@melissasmidt222]

@@chhansen9813🤦🏼‍♀️

[@dansrod5952]

Attorneys dont investigate. The british private investigator is the one assisting without charge, not the suspects attorney.

[@caroll6541]

David Johnston is correct, why did Baine not offer to get involved and help Sara’s family?? Could her family and a PI go to that area in the Virgin Islands 🇻🇮 go on a so-called vacation and start asking questions with the local people? As they say, ‘SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING’ 💔

[@daofjudith]

How could he not be a suspect???????

[@unkulwilly]

money!

[@mistrjt9213]

OMFG if law enforcement can't do their jobs right, then society is doomed.

[@kangacrew540]

Question is why wasnt he treated like a suspect.

[@myp0h]

Because he was rich ​@@kangacrew540

[@micadean1600]

@@unkulwilly you hit the nail on the head. 😢

[@Miss_ESL]

Thank you for covering this, Sarm was one of my friend's best friends and they are all devastated at the lack of action by authorities

[@TabbyToes]

“She was just gone” Ok buddy

[@sleigh4019]

Well with no proof she fell off or this dirtbad killed her we never will know know ..this is on the police doing a terrible job

[@Barbedwiredgifts]

Terrifying

[@onelittlelamb4030]

@@sleigh4019It’s just you and the water.

[@mariatorres9789]

Sneaker waves do happen.

[@jikan-tabi-1888]

The ocean is one big graveyard.

[@RichardsWorld]

Lesson learned. Don't go on a boat in the middle of the ocean with someone you met on Tinder.

[@natashamcmullen6559]

They were dating for several months

[@denisenasca9629]

Also, never go on your ex-husband's yacht in the middle of the Caribbean. Had I'd accepted his invitation. 💯 I would have been shark bait. And he would have never been questioned.

[@kathrynsevers8532]

Always tell someone who you are with and what you are doing

[@caroll6541]

Well Said! Only 2min in and that was my 1st thought… after my thought of prayers and condolences to her family 💔

[@caroll6541]

@@denisenasca9629?? What?! Please clarify. ‘Your exhusband’. It’s not her exhusbands’ boat, it was her boyfriend’s boat! 😜

[@sinead187]

He was her boyfriend & she was with him when she went missing.. Of course he killed her.

[@mariatorres9789]

Or a sneaker wave washed her to sea, or she took off swimming, & couldn't get back. Or pirates kidnapped her off deck, when he took a nap. Could've been anything.

[@hearmenow909]

@@mariatorres9789 If that was the case you wouldn't refuse for the boat to be searched.

[@mariatorres9789]

@hearmenow909 I would never give cops permission to search ANYTHING of mine, lol. Not purse or my house, or a boat, or my car. Are you serious? Lmao

[@mariatorres9789]

@@happy_fecker Idk what that means? You found someone that knows & cookies the law?

[@shanns135]

She left her phone and wallet so we all know he did it. SMH

[@1972dsrai]

What i don’t understand is his motive unless he just wanted to kill her for the thrill of it. They weren’t married so he could have just asked to break up and move on.

[@ajnegro2052]

@@1972dsraiyeah it’s one of those strange cases which don’t make sense. He probably has a mental health issue or something like that

[@Sophie-ip2vt]

@@1972dsraidoesn’t need to be a motive if the fact is he went too far in an argument and snapped. His history of domestic violence speaks volumes.

[@charliepiland3285]

If your fellow sailor disappears while you’re off watch, asleep, the first thing you SHOULD do is contact the local maritime rescue organizations. In US territorial waters this would include the USCG. So, the fact this man waited almost a full day to contact them is highly suspicious.

[@1972dsrai]

When it’s so often the partner why is he not a suspect from the beginning, at least until he’s cleared or charged?

[@pinkpugginz]

rich guy

[@chrispict42]

You said it.

[@taxiuniversum]

It seems obvious that he had murdered her and disposed of her body.

[@tabora_]

Future girlfriends, BEWARE !!!! DO NOT BOARD THE BOAT

[@Sup3rB4dVideos]

Future girlfriends! Beware!!! Don't go outside. Don't get a boyfriend. Don't go on boats. Don't go on tinder! Do y'all realize riding in a car kills more people than anything else?

[@Justasandwitch]

Do not swipe right

[@MAAT11]

I had 4 wonderful ex . And they wanted Me to go sailing with them so bad . And even though we lived together . And they were some very caring men too, I could'nt . So yea "missed me with that. Not here 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thatbeaatcch9884]

lol idk, I went and survived

[@mtunguyaz5057]

Lol! They like such guys..they can't be saved.

[@shariboyle1166]

Feel so bad for her family. 😢

[@suzieb8366]

The Island's authorities are an utter DISGRACE!!!

[@hotdude655]

So many horrible crimes get covered up on islands

[@edrathephoenix]

If he told them they needed a warrant, WHY DISNT THEY GET ONE?

[@Langlangsland]

You don’t need a warrant when they’re searching for a human life …. Especially on the water 💧

[@matthewnewton8812]

@@LanglangslandOk. This is not true. There is no such exception in the Constitution. All searches against a persons will require a warrant, unless there are exigent circumstances, meaning that a crime is being committed at that very moment and a person needs to be rescued immediately or they will come to harm. You cannot simply turn up at someone’s boat, or home, or car, and say, we’re looking for “human life” so get the F outta the way. It doesn’t matter even if you suspect that he’s the guy who did it. You can’t just step onto his or anybody else’s boat without permission or a warrant. Please don’t just say things that seem right in your mind and assume that you’re correct. You’ve got to be a responsible person and not speak authoritatively about a topic unless you know what you’re saying.

[@Im_on_couch_arrest]

@@matthewnewton8812dunning Kruger effect, gotta love it!

[@Rapido20]

Why?? After the weeks it will get them to get it, he would’ve erase everything and clean everything

[@mattpressley4063]

@@Rapido20 it would have taken hours, not weeks.

[@scoobydewbie]

his history of domestic vol. speaks volumes.

[@1972dsrai]

Its got to be why he killed her. He clearly has a problem handling confrontation and lashes out and just went too far this time. They weren’t married and theres no clear motive, but there doesn’t need to be. The local police really screwed up with the evidence collection. They gave him more than enough time to remove any bodily fluids.

[@LM-yn5xq]

💯

[@vlachyna]

Exactly…

[@urex1717]

One of her loved ones needs to take the law into their own hands.

[@bodymindsoul60]

He’s guilty AF!

[@danidaydreaming919]

I used to live in the USVI and unfortunately not surprised at their LE's inaction.

[@whatmatters683]

I'm from the UK and this is the first time I've heard of this!

[@smallperson7522]

I’m from the UK too and heard about this case 2yrs ago from a documentary on a Sky channel, there have been some tiny articles in the papers but it defo hasn’t received the coverage it deserves, I don’t know why….🤷🏻‍♀️

[@mirjamweibel9678]

I am from Switzerland and heard a lot about that case. Not in Swiss news papers but on KZbin, international tv etc.

[@delilahboa]

Me too @whatmatters663

[@G-host0069]

Not now, it’s all over the news in the UK now

[@SteveWondered-nt9vj]

Are u 12

[@kibeparis8204]

Why on EARTH did they NOT investigate the boyfriend and get a warrant to search the boat immediately?! This is ridiculous. She went missing on a boat with him. Surely he should at least be questioned?!!! WTAF ?!

[@dianeyoung8068]

Why are the island police not cooperating? That just stinks, maybe he paid someone off or the boyfriend and some official is involved together in some criminal activity.

[@merle-wq9ir]

"Captured" via greased palms.

[@willalynn89]

matched on Tinder enough said rest well n prayers for her family and friends 😢

[@Izzy-dl9nw]

Agree 👍

[@tom_something]

If I were the person who bought the boat, I'd be pretty ticked off if the seller didn't say beforehand, "By the way, the authorities really would like to seize this boat as evidence in a disappearance." Suddenly the boat's monetary value plummets.

[@yreasony]

He would NOT have willingly offered up this information if his intentions were nefarious.

[@camiloduran3907]

I lived there for three years, and the Police was famous for not investigating if you were not a local person. They don't want bad publicity, and they hop that people leave, so they claim they never showed up for court or to help in the investigation.

[@onelittlelamb4030]

Makes them look worse.

[@suewillman26]

The only way to compel officials would be for victims parents to bring media attention to the lack of concern. Bring them bad publicity.

[@onelittlelamb4030]

@@suewillman26 Money.

[@Ketowski]

Lesson learned from Robert Wagner. Don’t spend time on the water with bf or “hubbie”.

[@farzana6676]

Can't even trust your own partner these days. It's a crazy World out there.

[@Ernest-vh1zm]

You said that, right!!

[@NinjaRunningWild]

@@farzana6676Then why even have a partner? These two met on Tinder. The 42% of successful marriages I'm going to make an educated guess don't start on Tinder, which is basically a glorified hookup site.

[@NinjaRunningWild]

⁠Then why even have a partner? These two met on Tinder. The 42% of successful marriages I'm going to make an educated guess don't start on Tinder, which is basically a glorified hookup place.

[@Ketowski]

@@NinjaRunningWild It’s tongue in cheek. Do you know the story?

[@weeyee60]

Karma needs to get to work, on that creepy guy!

[@anneritchie426]

Nobody disappears, if they were alive they would definitely inform family.Anne from Scotland

[@jikan-tabi-1888]

He is most likely the one and only suspect who is getting away with a crime. So many hideous crimes are committed on water and never solved. Yachts, cruises, boats, etc.

[@davidjma7226]

Yep the ocean is a natural and convenient graveyard.....

[@Anemos-e8m]

It was about time someone picked up this case. The family got no help till now. Thank you

[@bugsea54]

Dating anyone deserves a background check

[@thesportsguy126]

Women like dangerous men who treat them like trash

[@dominics7565]

🤫

[@Justasandwitch]

And 9 references

[@Queenmebonnie]

He likely doesn't have any alarming background stuff..likely never arrested..so your advice is flawed

[@GruenerGummistiefel]

Agree and full 12:06 medical exam incl psychiatrist evaluation from 2 independent psychiatrist 3 months surveillance from PI

[@Alwaysoverlandnz]

Money to hire an expensive lawyer, but not to fund an extensive search for her 🤔? According to him she is still "missing". Maybe he should help to look for her. Unless... 😮

[@AmberForgey]

Unless he can't waste his expensive time 🙄 justice4sarm

[@DjatouDiawara]

Shame on that killer boyfriend

[@crispyduck1706]

what is wrong with the Virgin Islands justice system - this should be top of their priorities

[@sandrabreedlove3661]

I don't think the island won't the attention on some one dead look at Aruba

[@bryanjeske6856]

nobody should visit there - don't support them - case closed !!!

[@ExtremelyClever555]

@@bryanjeske6856 Are you kidding me? The driving force of the U.S. Virgin Islands economy is tourism.

[@smallperson7522]

Lets hope the lawyer and investigator joining forces will get this case investigated properly….🙏🏼🇬🇧

[@G-host0069]

Already begun 🧐 today the MSM is all over it in the UK 🇬🇧

[@susanloftus641]

There is an enormous yachting community out there. Why doesn't someone name and shame the current owners, and/or whereabouts of the yacht. The fact that the current owners have not come forward suggests that they are accomplises or colluded with this guy to cover up a crime.

[@SuperDave-vj9en]

The boat was sunk so that one could find it or search it for evidence! That yacht is at the bottom of the big blue sea.

[@cheryl5994]

THE FACT HE WOULDN’T AGREE TO THE SEARCH SAYS IT ALL. . . IMO.

[@VigilanceTech]

doubtful that could be used in court against him however

[@Pippi-Longstocking]

Judging a book by the cover - the boyfriend looks very dodgy in these photos.

[@Ashley__Rose]

Yeah in some instances you really do need to judge- it could end up saving your life

[@ErickMcNerney]

5:57 - here's my amateur sleuth take on it. The guy has money. He paid off the local authorities. Then, the authorities charged him with something petty like "obstruction" just so they could look innocent of anything themselves. I mean, come on, how else do you explain it?

[@Stacyr4567]

The incompetence is real. Idiotic to say the least.

[@Ummo2850]

But everywhere in EPIC Proportions, almost seems as if law enforcement disregards lives of all the killings of the women over the planet. Just make one think.

[@HappyPlace48]

“Matched on Tinder” is the first red flag.

[@Sup3rB4dVideos]

What is a red flag about that. My grandma and my nieces even have tinder, it's 2024 where do you meet people?

[@Juke582]

Definitely!!!

[@hbos9709]

​@@Sup3rB4dVideosin the real world. There is a world away from screens

[@SteveWondered-nt9vj]

The real world

[@LumiSisuSusi]

I met my current partner of almost 7 years on Tinder. He's amazing and I even moved to his home country where I've just applied for citizenship ❤

[@XLFries]

Yea he did it.

[@Venus-gn5oi]

Dating websites shouldn’t be allowed to have a business unless they provide a background check on every member.

[@beegee7573]

They do have a disclaimer saying that you need to use caution and to not put yourself out there like that unless you are sure. Plenty of ppl do background checks on a new bf or gf..it's not up to the website!

[@hotdude655]

Well all the girls like bad boys...

[@mattpressley4063]

do your own. who provides background checks when you meet people in "the real world"?

[@Venus-gn5oi]

@@mattpressley4063 In the real world no one is asking me to pay a membership before meeting someone. Dating websites are a business model where members are paying a membership fee. For that reason, no, if they want to be a credible business, they need to do that. It’s ridiculous how people are willing to take so much BS from those websites.

[@RuckCatz]

Loving this idea. Background check on all profiles, pass the cost to the member back ground checks are one time fees for crying out loud. Even better, background checks annually. So what, charge an annual fee. Lower cost than paying for LE or FBI and all that goes with a bad outcome. Be the first to put that dating site policy in place.

[@Smokiebraah]

The following day around lunchtime? Nice reporting

[@tnkn969]

Can't believe how inept the police was in this investigation.

[@SunniSide1]

This is my first time hearing “sail into the sunset” in its literal sense. So many balls dropped on this one. If only investigators would treat these cases like the victims were someone they loved. I hope they nail this guy! She deserves justice!

[@99names16]

The UK detective is exactly right. The problem is anytime there is a hint of impropriety you need to clear that up right away to do a proper investigation if you’re leaving a bunch of stones unturned then you’re leaving a bunch of theories conspiracies etc. etc. to take root

[@doctordemento965]

No body was found. He had a history of abuse. They hook up on "Tinder." Keystone cops.

[@naninolovyou6388]

Is there any international law that would require the island to give up that cell phone info?? Seems that should be the least that her family could legally gain access to. This is so sad, given that he has a violent past 😢 RIP Angel - what a horrible way to go and how angry it makes me that this guy 3years on hasn’t been charged, or interviewed by the FBI. This is what money gets you?? 😮😡

[@carieyounginsurance]

This is absolutely ridiculous…no justice has been done here. Guilty AF

[@1972dsrai]

Everything he did after the police got involved points at him doing everything to get rid of the evidence and the police let him do it. If he was treated like a suspect from the onset they could have taken the boat from him and carry out proper forensic testing. They basically helped him get away with it. Now we’re mostly left with circumstantial and a strong hunch.

[@fishdave40]

That poor woman's parents need some closure. This guy seems like he is hiding something. Tinder nightmares are real.

[@SuomiMama]

I haven't heard of this case. Thank you for bringing light it. I hope he is held accountable.

[@elizeleroux6388]

this is suspicious on him for certain

[@johnatkinson8946]

It's the perfect crime. "She apparently fell overboard while I was sleeping" What really happened (possibly) is that he lost his temper, killed her, threw the body overboard and let the sharks destroy the evidence. Then sanitized and sold the boat. Impossible to prove he's the murderer. Every year thousands of people are murdered without anyone being convicted. It's a reality. The parents have the advantage of knowing who is responsible so they need to pool their resources and exact their own "justice". The system can't help them.

[@mariatorres9789]

Or, a sneaker wave swept her away. I think it's funny, how all these people that never spend time on the water, assume he did something. Everybody that has spent time on the water, knows 100 things could've happened. She could've been hit with the boom. Could've been a sneaker wave. Could've been a gust of wind. Could've been pirates kidnapped her, and yes, that happens. Could've been she was hot & went for a brief dip & couldn't get back from a current. Could've been 100 things.

[@basicallyno1722]

@mariatorres his behavior afterward is incredibly strange

[@magdebates2697]

yeah your right unless they find a body thats weighed down or tied up washed up on the shore its imposssible to say if he killed her . even if they find remains of any kind how would you know what happened to her . the sea and wildlife wld have destroyed most evidence by now . your so vulnerable on a boat in the middle of the ocean wow i wldnt get on a boat with NO ONE PERIOD.

[@mercedeswestbrook4356]

@@mariatorres9789 or the only other human being in her vicinity who has a history of abuse against women...

[@mariatorres9789]

@mercedeswestbrook4356 Convictions for murder are Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. That's supposed to be a very high bar. Way past maybe, could've, or might have happened.

[@mistrjt9213]

Bane got away with murder.

[@coristevenson3013]

I think you’re onto something….

[@apoc341]

History of DV and wouldn’t let the investigators into certain areas of the boat. Yeah he’s guilty. Condolences to the family.

[@Ashley__Rose]

He obviously took so long alerting the authorities because he needed time to clean up

[@keepingitreal601]

Guility big time Bane. FBI needed to take control.

[@maleighjohnson7020]

This sounds similar to the movie Double Jeopardy, where he’s gone when she wakes up on the boat. Wow He has a domestic abuse report AND refused to let the police check out the boat! He’s GUILTY af

[@robingagan6288]

Do a background check before being alone with a tinder date. Would a DV conviction have shown up?

[@kumarg3598]

While I don't mind the check, I'm not giving my SSN to anyone.

[@sparrow.6392]

@@kumarg3598you are able to do background checks without ssn. You need info like full name, birthday, and one mailing address they were at while they registered for voting. And if their name is fully unique (which is uncommon but still happens) then that’s all you need.

[@69Ameristang]

Yes all arrests or court dates show

[@coristevenson3013]

Is very hard to find any information on this man. It was extremely difficult for a ton of reporters to even find the domestic violence. He also has another domestic violence from 2003. That is extremely hard to find. His parents have friends in high places, and have his whole criminal background expunged.

[@lynncaldwell8345]

Normal people report disappearances promptly

[@bpwhitcomb1]

he definitely killed her but her body went in the ocean. unfortunately he will get away with it. no face no case

[@lsseaside7303]

😢🕯 Sarm sincerest sympathies... the worst injustice ... Sarm lives in our prayers, our hearts forever ❤️

[@ljtribble]

I wonder if some of the officials in the Virgin Islands were given something to line their pockets with by Mr. Baine to look the other way. He has money. It certainly seems they haven't done their job and do not care. I feel so bad for the family of this victim who have no answers as to what happened to their precious daughter.

[@coristevenson3013]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…….

[@pcwolfie]

He beat the living crap out of his ex girlfriend (he dragged her by her hair)….i mean hello???

[@coristevenson3013]

Ex-wife. Also broke front tooth, bloodied ear and choked her out and then went to bed. Went to bed like nothing ever happened…. but this man has no conscience. This man has no empathy he could care less about people in general.

[@kathyvick2710]

If he’s innocent…..why wouldn’t he allow a search of the boat? 🤔If he’s innocent….why take off and sell the boat?? 🤔 If he’s innocent…..why hire a high price lawyer??? 🤔 Kinda sounds like someone is guilty. The police screwed this up and her poor family has no closure. 🙏

[@coristevenson3013]

I believe you are on the correct path

[@chinadoll534]

Wow. It sounds like he might have sold her to someone or killed her. That’s a damn shame. These men are disgusting and disgraceful

[@jet4415]

Tosses like trash.

[@amyquinn9609]

I hope he is brought to justice

[@ste1872]

Weird i just started to watch this & it came up on British news just now at the same time about the missing woman 👍🏻

[@lynadamson9079]

Red flag if ever there was one Maxwell & Epstein mentioned, Bane is no doubt connected.

[@hmng_brd]

top notch interview - praying for progress in locating Sarm!

[@AmberForgey]

Great job to both guests! They are amazing!!!

[@CTGDesigner]

So much incompetence. This guy is guilty though. Without a doubt. Prevention of any investigation is absolutely suspect.

[@mw9537]

Shame on the authorities to not do their due diligence to investigate a possible homicide. You start wondering if they were paid off....Just a thought.....

[@helpyourcattodrive]

He got away w it!

[@wangbang2356]

I like very much at the end when the Gentlemen decide to talk more after the interviews. Law&Crime Networks help solving cases!

[@1MrSpooky]

She was last seen on a Catamaran. The videos keep showing pictures of very expensive random Monohulls 🤔🤦‍♀️

[@Easternworld420]

Americans are extremely low functioning, don’t expect better from any American media. Chinese media is much more intelligent and reliable for reporting things, if you watch some of it you’ll never take US media seriously again

[@shanonkay907]

Yep. It would be far easier to lose your balance and fall overboard on a mono hull. Damn near impossible on a cat.

[@anthonysears871]

Anyone with a "yacht" is making up for something!

[@suzieb8366]

Sighhh I fear this one will get away with it. But one day his past will come to haunt him!

[@omadjourney]

Rest in peace to that lady.

[@anneritchie426]

Definitely guilty, Watching from Scotland

[@onelittlelamb4030]

Cross Timbers, MO here.

[@rfjohns4452]

The worse types to go after are those that know how to control body language from smiling,innocent looks. Most criminals don't know this and are found easier. What happened did she become dispensable so she had to go and he went about recruiting more at fitness gyms.

[@cherylhaskell9830]

How do families endure this type of loss.

[@katjay3125]

Accepting you raised a Tinder girl

[@Venus-gn5oi]

@@katjay3125You must be such a great person.

[@Greeceismygoto]

@@katjay3125That’s just an awful statement!

[@karenj8406]

He was the last person to see her and has many questions to answer and should not be eliminated as a suspect

[@talltrees358]

Murderers get away with murder to often.

[@G-host0069]

You murdered the spelling *too

[@billmcg1676]

Given the situation not sure this case will be solved but the British PI seems top notch - if there's a chance he'd probably be the man to do it. RIP Sarm - peace to her family.

[@sims398]

Condolences to the family. 🌻

[@Woozlewuzzleable]

Nothing sketchy here....

[@elnuggetfnf]

Anybody who commits murder at sea is a different type of psycho and it’s simply because it’s hard to prove a murder at sea.. especially is the body was disposed at sea.. he knew exactly what he was doing!

[@gabrielletanner5339]

A few people have been killed through this dating app..cannot the British embassy arrest him on suspicion...

[@VigilanceTech]

The fully enclosed living space inside a vessel requires a warrant just like a home would require one.

[@theresechretien3764]

Poor woman this is unreal 😢

[@WallaceScores]

Well David Johnston isn't so private now is he.

[@tunemaking]

What a crock of cow dung! If someone is missing while at sea, it should be assumed that it could be foul play! Otherwise, if it is foul play, and they never searched the boat, the perp will literally get away with murder! RIDICULOUS!

[@michaelcarter3699]

So she was in the fridge right?

[@PhonePhone-sf8te]

it would make more sense that he turned her into chum. fridge isn't really needed.

[@delilahboa]

He wouldn’t let authorities on his boat? That in itself screams hiding something 😡

[@kangacrew540]

Dont be suprised if the boats a couple of kms beneath the ocean or blown up. He is walking free. Why didnt they do forensics on the boat. The police will be able to tell you.

[@carlosdeno]

She’s gone! OK dude no worries don’t worry about it, crack on!

[@Ernest-vh1zm]

Guilty!!!

[@carrow1057]

Get him Dave.