Women Endure Surprising Bias in the Workplace

When interviewing for a job, men and women might behave the same but get treated differently.

[@TheLCusi]

Maybe it was the actor? If they seriously just used two videos, then they don't know how to conduct a scientific study. They need more than two actors. Furthermore, at the beginning, around 0:14, they say that twice as many women feel that they were turned down at a job because of their gender. Maybe they feel that way because of videos like this?

[@bjfull8]

You got it extremely right.

[@ThePimmy11]

I've felt that way before seeing this video or any like it. I've been told because I am really good at my position, they see me best suited to that position where *someone* else would be considered for promotion. No one but a savant is only good at one thing. Someone who quickly picks up a method can probably quickly pick up many methods. It boiled down to "I'm comfortable telling you want to do rather than collaborating more as equals". But please, continue to find excuses to not consider real experiences by real people.

[@Cinicraft00]

Lol even the women thought she wasn't good enough

[@ireneswackyjournals8810]

Because women have unconscious bias as well.

[@michaelcoffey1969ish]

It's not just what you say but HOW you say it, the female actor was alot harsher and abrupt in how she spoke, the male calmer and more controlled, the "study" was obviously conducted in such a way as to bias the outcome in favour the male actor and although it makes a valid point is not a valid test.

[@spyman3000]

This was a not a good experiment, they should do it on more people to draw conclusive evidence.

[@rosrychaplet]

Speech pattern did it.

[@zer0edgy952]

The man had different speaking patterns and came off as more confident

[@Sprinkleycakes]

The script was exactly the same.

[@lotstosay6359]

Not at all.

[@ireneswackyjournals8810]

But that’s because men are seen as more confident. Women are forced to behave a specific way, if we become assertive it’s seen as condescending

[@kawarauwoods9335]

It was quite clearly the intonation of the actors. Hardly a scientific result.

[@alexhimes232]

1:20 Maybe it's the fact that the women sounds condescending, and the man doesn't, maybe it's not because of gender but it's the fact theyre two different people who sound different, and there is much different bias then you think, women are more likely to gain a stem, law, or consecutive job just because they're empowering, and it's simply "sexist" for them to not get the job at all!

[@ireneswackyjournals8810]

But why? They have done enough studies to realize there’s a hidden bias that both women and men share against women x

[@Essays4College]

I'm not sure where this study was conducted but women generally hire women. I have worked at many small companies and I have yet to see an all-male office but I have seen and worked in many all-female organizations.

[@Cool_Rain_12]

Exactly many of them just tell balant lies, to get unfair advantages.

[@thisisforschool4184]

They need to re-conduct this experiment, cus the man was speaking more fluently and his tone was more confident opposed to the woman which would make people lean towards the man.

[@lotstosay6359]

The woman was just as confident you all are biased.

[@ireneswackyjournals8810]

You realize you prove the study correct right? The fact that you see one as more confident than the other when both are acting that part means you unconsciously see men are more confident than women

[@leahtheestallion7687]

@@ireneswackyjournals8810 they're too stupid to evaluate themselves honestly.

[@michaelwoodall7922]

But they weren't identical. The words were, but there is much more to communication than the words we use.

[@Gontrill]

To be precise, an 80% of the communication is the much more to communication than the words we use.

[@Twestliw]

Let say it’s true and we subconsciously expect women to be perfect in every way AND NURTURING sounds to me like we should be paying women more than men since more is expected out of them

[@melaniexoxo]

yep

[@otisanon5176]

ARE U F***ING kidding me, "the candidates are identical" That is complete BS, if they haven´t prior to the study evaluated the actors with regard to all parameters that we know affects bias in others they can not make that claim. Also the effect of the job they are applying for also has bearing on how the candidates are precieved. The study would need to be replicated dozens of times using different actor (evaluated beforehand of course) and a wide range of jobs in order to draw conclusions of the sort they are implying here. Also the people judging the candidates should not be in the same room as they can also have an effect on eachother (social power). Also I think it´s hilarious that "so few women" are ceos of fortune 500 companies and that more women should be in these positions. Why? given that the sexes are more alike then different but at the extremes it becomes less so, would´t a reasonable arguement be that it doesen´t matter if the ceo is a man or woman because in order to get to that position there they would have to have alot of the same personality traits, so what difference would the gender really make? Are female leaders better then men? objectively I would argue no. Are there differences in leading style between men and women, I would say no however I precieve a difference between managers and leaders gender notwithstanding. Becoming a ceo, manager, leader in a workplace setting has a lot to do with your social networks and very little to do with your skills.

[@MSpeedThree]

Women and men are exactly the same. There is nothing different physically or psychologically between the two. Therefore we should judge them equally. Any differences you might perceive are only social constructs created to hurt and enslave.....or maybe that sounds ridiculous.

[@SitaraAleu]

Hence, the basis and actual meaning of feminism. THIS is exactly what it is and always will be. Proper equal treatment. That's all.

[@TheToledoTrumpton]

It does sound ridiculous. You might be interested in this: 50 REAL Differences Between Men & Women kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5nagGuradiNY5o

[@tisko7188]

@@SitaraAleu there is no physical diff bw men and women, so no period leaves ofr women

[@Essays4College]

It also works the other way around because women prefer hiring other women.

[@SendooranSCAR]

Honestly People complain about gender But people with different race Have it hardest

[@gavinsloma]

inflated egos thing they deserve/entitled to every thing. if you were as good as you think you are then you will have the job!

[@coreyhabbas]

Unfortunately this type of thing is still as alive today years after. Women are told that they must deal with negative perceptions without an acknowledgement that unconscious bias has to be addressed.

[@Bethlehem.Getaneh]

So true

[@Cool_Rain_12]

Get out of ur METAVERSE

[@michaelcitrenbaum1345]

I don’t want to sound like I’m hating on women but let me just go over facts I realize about them in my social circle: -They exaggerate their stories -They express a lot of emotions that men would not dare speak of -Other women is a bigger problem to them than other men in the workplace

[@witchplease9695]

Lol at the comments trying to justify sexism. If anything, the man sounded more agressive and conceited (especially with all those hand motions), while the female sounded much calmer, just a bit deadpan. How come everytime sexism against women is called out men get all defensive as if we are accusing them? We're accusing society, because as this experiment shows its not just men who have this biased mindset. Sexism against women is alive and real, so stop trying to deny it or claim that men have it worse.

[@witchplease9695]

I'm aware that racism is more common than sexism and while I agree with your statement, what does it have to do with my comment or anything in this video?

[@michaelwoodall7922]

Your confirmation bias is showing

[@PeggyKimmey]

No,that's not what I saw. Your resume simply gets you in the door, after that it's about the connection you make. The female applicant was seen as "Arrogant" because her eye contact was not consistent, when she looked up to think, she tended to roll her eyes; her head is tilted back slightly so she seems to be looking down her nose at us; her slight shrug comes at a time when she seems to be putting off the idea the question asked, and she never smiled. The male applicant looked more constantly at the interviewer, face on the level, pleasant expression, and his shoulder shrug was timed to be slightly humble, take the edge off tooting his own horn. From these brief pieces, I'd rather work with the man day-in and day-out than the woman. When the words/resume are equal then it comes back to the connection you make in person. He was doing what Diane does - make us like him. The reason we invite Diane into our homes every night is not because of her resume, it's because we feel she enjoys being there (on TV and with us) and asks the questions we want to know - we feel connected. These are skills that can be learned (I teach them) but the first step is being aware, not assuming that it was purely gender bias.

[@ashleyashleym2969]

Peggy Kimmey I didn't even pick up on that, that's a great analysis!

[@peggykimmey1662]

Ashley ASHLEYM Thanks :-)

[@lotstosay6359]

You prove the studies that say women are harsher on women. I would add that women with less hard skills than their female interviewees will be threatened by her and dissect her every word and action in a way they would not for men. As HR reps tend to have less hard skills and simply support male led organizations as gatekeepers.

[@lotstosay6359]

Didn’t even read your last comments you don’t even like women to begin with.

[@Ascension_3030]

staging two actors to perform a "study" with a single outcome as acceptable is just a waste of time and complete nonsense.

[@zzim2853]

Why do women not start with building their own companies like the majority of these large companies were by men? If women and men are equal capable, why is it always women going after jobs all ready created at the hands of men? In my company, women have top priority when applying for jobs right now. All the push to equal the work force. Problem is every job posting see's far more men applicants than women. Where is the example being made for the support of women being equal and just wanting to be equal in all sectors?

[@dazza4345]

female bosses are aggressive.i had things thrown at me and had saying she would smash my face in if i didn't do something on time.i have more than my fair share.When brought to the company as bullying for one boss,it was brushed under the carpet.She left shortly after .But they brought her back to the workplace 3 years later!Despite being a 6 ft2 215lb man of athletic build i think they think they can be stronger than this big man if i abuse him work.I never had any problems with the male bosses i have had and have had high performing rating from them.I have had one very good female boss.The power goes to their head .i call it 'Queen syndrome"

[@ireneswackyjournals8810]

Both men and women can be aggressive. It’s mostly due to tenure and years of experience; fear of replacement

[@raphaelfaerber6279]

Yo les bts

[@twiit8164]

Salut mec

[@tperry9687]

this video is not that great. But I can tell you for a fact that women are discriminated against in the executive world.

[@beckyelledge4365]

Of the short glimpses we saw of the interviews, did anyone else detect a less than professional tone in the female's voice? Both candidates may have been saying the same thing, but I got a hostile and condescending vibe from the female through her tone and nonverbal communication. Her body language and eye movements were less professional. The word choice did seem like bragging and arrogance from both male and female, but she made it seem like she was put out to be answering questions with her eye rolls and movements - like the whole interview process was beneath her. Did anyone else sense this?

[@drmode]

False accusations is something men deal with everyday

[@KatherineTheGreat501]

No they don't. Proof?

[@markgonzalez2657]

why are women treated like this men and women are equil and men and women should both be open to jobs and we both men and women are equil and should be treated the same

[@z00h]

Well I'm sorry but regardless of what they have in their pants her softskills were worse. That's what made them choose the guy, it's a fact nothing to do with gender.

[@gavinsloma]

wow it's not cool how we have to pretend we are all the same, and have the same capabilities. fare is not always even 5th grade teacher said that. Example: stereotypes why do they exist ? (not always true but based in some overall impression) Stereotype: women dont get treated the same in the work place, ...not always true...

[@aidenalexander391]

You want to here a joke? The 19th amendment

[@toserveman9317]

Be more concerned with the VERY OBVIOUS conscious bias IN FAVOR of females in everything, than the unverified (and reality defying) assertion that there is bias against them.

[@lotstosay6359]

This is disgusting. This ignorance is why America is declining as the leader of the free world. There’s a reason why there are so many women engineers and mathematicians out of Russia, India, and Europe in general. This immaturity and bias will be the decline of our society.

[@ireneswackyjournals8810]

Wrong, they do it because of need. The countries you mention minus Europe that has the same issues as us and have spoken about this and actually acted on it (see Nordic countries) have women that take engineering degrees because that’s the only way out of their societies. Further in India most of the female engineers are in the higher caste. Sorry but look at the facts

[@lotstosay6359]

@@ireneswackyjournals8810 Just by your argument I can tell you’re another dense American woman who probably works in PR and can’t have a conversation of depth on the topic aside from “Wah wah, you’re wrong.” I’m not. I know what I’m talking about and it’s the same reason European countries have had numerous women leaders of parliament (our equivalent of president) time and time over. American women don’t even talk about anything other than gossip sex and beauty products. You stop a Ukrainian or German, or Indian (even certain African countries) woman, and ask them about politics or any topic and they will give you a strong answer without fear of being too forward. Work life is better for women overseas as is career advancement. American society likes to pretend we’re still in 1650 and remain angered at strong opinionated women. This is why we are loosing. Even our news websites. Yahoo news is all watered down. No international news, nothing thought provoking, just placement adverts and celebrities. Onlyfans ads, mindless regurgitated new stories. Look at even the Canadian version of Yahoo news or French Yahoo. It is comprehensive and not just about celebrities and porn site placement ads. MSN is only a few percentage points better. America is in decay and everything here is intended to keep our minds at a very basic level. We need women leaders who get it. Ones who know how to speak up and self promote on interviews to start.

[@mdgsk824]

Just look at the word bitch or bitchy. It originally means female dog so it's a word specificly used to insult a woman perceived in a negative way, being argumentative, impure etc whereas a guy behaving the same would get more respect and be deemed threatening. That's some deep-rooted sexism on both sides actually. Dont forget about benevolent sexism.

[@Specialcowgirl69]

There’s major differences quit playing. The girl literally looks like she just rolled out of bed. There’s different tones in their voices. In all honesty, that girl looks kind of scary like she will show up to your house at night. I am a female, and I honestly would rather have a male boss over a female because they are less emotional.

[@RocketeerRich]

What?!?! There's a difference between men and women? No way! Women, for the most part, are just better at caregiving jobs with infants and the elderly becuase that's how they're DNA is coded. Every time I go to the grocery store and see an elderly person with a younger helper, the helper is always a female (and God bless her). All of the nurses I know are female (filipinos don't count). I think women make great doctors. For the most part, if women can't fight the urge to run with the big corporate dogs, then they forfeit being ladies - no more pulling out chairs or holding doors or chauffeuring to the movies. From then on we go dutch for dinner; you shut up about your coworkers, relatives, soap operas, and other boring crap; and you pull your own weight in the sack. Ladies, did you ever wonder why chivalry is dead?... or do you only enjoy complaining about it?

[@ashleyashleym2969]

I don't like either of them, both of their tones sound very arrogant as well as the sentence in how they said it could have been phrased better.

[@ashleyashleym2969]

Ashley ASHLEYM but also the women's tone at the beginning was a lot more arrogant than the man's because of the pitch of voice she choice to use, if she used a lower pitch she wouldn't have sounded so arrogant, but then again I probably didn't like either because confidence to me comes across as arrogance which means asshole.

[@michaelcoffey1969ish]

It's not just what you say but HOW you say it, the female actor was alot harsher and abrupt in how she spoke, the male calmer and more controlled, the "study" was obviously conducted in such a way as to bias the outcome in favour the male actor and although it makes a valid point is not a valid test.