Why Ireland Split into the Republic of Ireland & Northern Ireland

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WonderWhy

WonderWhy

9 жыл бұрын

A brief overview of the history of Ireland and the events that led to the political division of the island.
Including: the Norman and Tudor conquest of Ireland, the break away from the Roman Catholic Church, the Union of the Crowns, the various Irish Rebellions, Oliver Cromwell's effect on Ireland, Irish joining the Union, the Irish War for Independence, the following Civil War, and the recent violence in Northern Ireland known as The Troubles.
MUSIC:
"Lord of the Land" by
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com/music/royalty-...)

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@billybobobenner
@billybobobenner 6 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's I was walking in Belfast when I was accosted by a masked man, brandishing a gun. He asked "Are you a Catholic or a Protestant"? I replied "Neither, I'm an Atheist". The Gunman was silent for a moment, then finally said "Is that a Catholic Atheist or a Protestant Atheist"?
@sujithnair8660
@sujithnair8660 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason; the question made me laugh to tears
@gerose1964
@gerose1964 5 жыл бұрын
the old ones are the best
@d_j_g8764
@d_j_g8764 5 жыл бұрын
Thats the way we used to be if your the opposite religion they probably would’ve attacked you
@davidryan0808
@davidryan0808 5 жыл бұрын
this i heard before...are you that man or is it one of those myths ? Not knocking you just a question ...no need of reply because i like the idea of this logic because it shows the thick way folks can be without thinking we are all on the same world...1848 spring of nations did change our view of it but its still dumb to hate folks while living next to them
@jessycac6311
@jessycac6311 5 жыл бұрын
That was during the troubles.
@sampowell1649
@sampowell1649 3 жыл бұрын
As a Scotsman I think a lot of people are confused, it wasn’t exclusively England but Britain as a whole, the majority of Protestants in NI are descended from Scotland
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 3 жыл бұрын
Thats true, The Irish don't hate the scots though so most of them just say the english or refer to the England as "the british" You're right and the accent was a result of scottish and Irish mixed
@beaucaspar3990
@beaucaspar3990 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Northern Ireland was settled by Scottish and English settlers, because of the Plantation of Ulster. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@andym9571
@andym9571 3 жыл бұрын
And what is now now Scotland was settled by the Scotti....who were Irish raiders ...long before any of this.
@sampowell1649
@sampowell1649 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonlaw9234 my father is a quarter welsh, basically all the men who carry the surname
@beaucaspar3990
@beaucaspar3990 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonlaw9234 Why are you being a self hating Brit? It's pathetic.
@tjello8923
@tjello8923 3 жыл бұрын
In summary: It was Henry VIII’s fault because he wanted more wives
@humann5682
@humann5682 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ah sort of. Obviously this is a quick overview but there are nuances too. Like the Earl of Kildare at the time supporting Yorkists claim to the English throne after the civil war. Henry VIII was concerned the Yorkists would regroup in Ireland with a sympathetic Earl of Kildare. That was a key motivation in Henry taking over Ireland. And a lot of the "proud Irish Gaelic chieftains" at the time of the Tudor conquest were more than happy to sell out their countrymen to the English Crown for a metaphorical 30 pieces of silver. Look up the _Surrender and Regrant policy_ in regards to the Tudor conquest of Ireland. And before anyone goes off on one with some uninformed propganada, I was raised in Ireland and went through the Catholic education system. Doesn't mean I'm going to be biased about history or ignore historical fact to suit propganada.
@dannye8525
@dannye8525 3 жыл бұрын
@TJ Bell Yes, and didn't Anne and Catherine pay a heavy price .
@udin2x
@udin2x 3 жыл бұрын
And the world war 2 happen because Hitler was rejected to go to art school?
@davewhite756
@davewhite756 2 жыл бұрын
He wanted a son
@user-ti6nr5cg9t
@user-ti6nr5cg9t 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gary-bz1rf h1tl3r was a Roman catholic tho.
@mycalltoadventure9712
@mycalltoadventure9712 Жыл бұрын
Very informative summery. Obviously there is a lot of details left out, but a complete history would take hours and hours. Great job at condensing it down to 12 min. I’ve read dozens of books on the history of Ireland and after watching this realize I’ve only scratched the surface.
@Crick1952
@Crick1952 9 жыл бұрын
1000 years of Irish history in under 12 minutes... Impressive
@WannabeMarsanach
@WannabeMarsanach 9 жыл бұрын
Crick1952 ~850*
@daddyleon
@daddyleon 9 жыл бұрын
Toron Those earlier years are't important :P
@WannabeMarsanach
@WannabeMarsanach 9 жыл бұрын
daddyleon what?
@Crick1952
@Crick1952 9 жыл бұрын
Toron He starts with William the conquer then goes to Henry II. I thought it was a passable hyperbole.
@WannabeMarsanach
@WannabeMarsanach 9 жыл бұрын
Crick1952 William the Conquer is not part of Irish History. He invaded England in 1066. The Normans wouldn't come to Ireland till around 1170/1171, i.e. long after William.
@FMJIRISH
@FMJIRISH 3 жыл бұрын
... "Split" is an interesting way to say "colonised"
@thomkinrade9314
@thomkinrade9314 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of but not really... "colonised" is typically used to refer to a slightly different process of government-sponsored movement of peoples, in order to establish political control. The reason I find "colonised" to be the wrong word is that the King of England/Scotland already held the title to rule Ireland and did so prior to the time British people were sent. Thus, the right to govern was established, and technically law, right or wrong. "Colonised" would imply that in order to establish control in the first place, the government sponsored settlers, which is untrue in the case of British rule of Ireland. However, it is true in the case of The Americas. Funny, I am not even sure "colonised" is the correct word to describe what the British Empire did to control India, since that process was more similar to "conquest" than "colonisation". But maybe my interpretation of what's written in the dictionary is untrue. While it may just be semantics, it's important to use the correct terminology when applicable.
@FMJIRISH
@FMJIRISH 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomkinrade9314 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland The Plantations of Ireland were literally colonisation of the island by English and Scottish settlers on confiscated land. You just displayed complete ignorance of Irish history.
@saintcignatius
@saintcignatius 3 жыл бұрын
Thom Kinrade if you don’t think Britain colonized India clearly you have a seriously flawed understanding of history
@thomkinrade9314
@thomkinrade9314 3 жыл бұрын
@@saintcignatius not flawed, I am using the dictionary to look at what the correct word is. Conquered seems to fit better, for both cases of Ireland and India. Am I not correct or are you going to argue without purpose ? I'm basing my whole debate off of semantics
@FMJIRISH
@FMJIRISH 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomkinrade9314 ... Colonisation involves setting up colonies; settlement of your own people on land that was not previously yours. Your semantic argument has the weight of a wet fart historically.
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 2 жыл бұрын
My experience Is Mainly with Northern Ireland, Mostly Belfast But the vast majority of people I know and have met are all 100%. They are very friendly and very genuine. It has been like a second home to me over the years.
@adambrown1654
@adambrown1654 2 жыл бұрын
As a Protestant Scots man, piss off ya
@imperialwolf7872
@imperialwolf7872 Жыл бұрын
As a Northern Irish Protestant myself, I have absolutely no ill will to anyone, Catholic or otherwise. I consider myself neither solely Irish or British, I consider myself both. Some of the nicest people I’ve ever met were from the south and honestly hope this divide can heal itself, as unfortunately given recent actions I’m worried about it rearing it’s head again.
@rustykilt
@rustykilt Жыл бұрын
As an Australian, it difficult to comprehend how the People of Northern Ireland continue to face a life fraught with violence. It seems a war that will never end.
@BB-is5xo
@BB-is5xo Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares, furry.
@vikramrao6391
@vikramrao6391 4 жыл бұрын
Never met an Irishman whom I didn’t like. Always the biggest smile and the most welcoming demeanor. Would love to visit someday.
@michaelportaloo1981
@michaelportaloo1981 4 жыл бұрын
That's because they were drunk
@Jack-jh5uh
@Jack-jh5uh 4 жыл бұрын
michael portaloo 🤦🏼‍♂️
@MADMANB68
@MADMANB68 4 жыл бұрын
Take a stroll through a place called limerick in Ireland.. You may not return with your shoes let alone a smile lol
@tittymilk5979
@tittymilk5979 4 жыл бұрын
Respect buddy you’re welcome to come
@bohsgerry
@bohsgerry 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelportaloo1981 ????
@adamgillespie3393
@adamgillespie3393 4 жыл бұрын
He kind of skipped over the reason the Irish rebelled. There was a lot of oppression.
@ReviloWedj
@ReviloWedj 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, no mention of the blight. Or how the british worsened the situation.
@kayzar293
@kayzar293 4 жыл бұрын
700 years of brutal occupation seems a glaring error. Whatever the British did across the globe they trialled it all on the Irish first
@glenbe4026
@glenbe4026 4 жыл бұрын
@@kayzar293 FFS, Whatever the "British" were guilty of during colonialism, the Irish were EQUALLY guilty of. The Irish were often willing participants.
@pepsi3466
@pepsi3466 4 жыл бұрын
@@glenbe4026 okay so you're gonna talk shit but not mention how they caused a genocide of my people?? Killing 1 million people and causing 1 million to emigrate. How are you gonna sit there and say we're the fucking same?
@nxxynx5039
@nxxynx5039 4 жыл бұрын
@@pepsi3466 the London elite may have fucked you guys over but don't blame the common English civilian for the combined efforts of the Irish elite, Scottish, Welsh and English *elite* who oppressed the Irish. The ordinary Brit did nothing to the Irish yet the IRA felt it ok to blow them up and cripple them. Ireland has lost its morality and religious values in favour of petty bloody revenge on innocent people.
@shaunadamson4634
@shaunadamson4634 3 жыл бұрын
Very well put together, well done! Like many Australians I have both English and Irish ancestry (along with several other nations) so that makes this all the more interesting.
@adambrown1654
@adambrown1654 2 жыл бұрын
We in Scotland don’t like Australia , yous lot remind us of the paddy’s, yous are paddy’s with a sun tan, drunken fighting fools I dislike the Aussies more than the Irish even, I love New Zealand tho at least they are civilised
@CraigalFun
@CraigalFun 2 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland born and bred. Love the South too. Great people 👏
@soggy8713
@soggy8713 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah that's great I'm from the south. Northerners are great, glad that something like that can be said now without having to worry about my car being blown up
@rmp7400
@rmp7400 2 жыл бұрын
So...are you Catholic? Or are you proud of the fact that Catholics have been mercilessly persecuted by false ideologies.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
Pretty soon you will all be one people again. If the British government continues to push its luck.
@ShaneFagan
@ShaneFagan 9 жыл бұрын
My only gripe is you did leave out the context of why Ireland wanted the spilt in the first place. It wasn't religion, there were protestants on the Republican side of every Irish rebellion. The reason why Ireland wanted the split was more about the abusive rule of England. We had pretty much only farmers exporting their product and the country was very poor actually so poor most people were slaves to land owners. There was also the famine which England didn't help us at all so many people died.
@another_day4783
@another_day4783 9 жыл бұрын
England? You mean UK
@seansmith2223
@seansmith2223 9 жыл бұрын
Adamc1233 No, he doesn't. The act of union was passed in 1707 - meaning that any atrocities committed before this time (e.g. The (Cromwellian) Plantations) were a result of the English and not the British.
@andysmith5077
@andysmith5077 9 жыл бұрын
Shane Fagan It wasn't England mate, you've been sold false history. Nobody has been good to the Irish including the British (ie the English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish) also the Roman Catholic church hasn't been good to the Irish, also guess who hasn't been very good to the Irish? The Irish. Now that's historical facts all throughout Irish history there has been a class divide. It doesn't matter if it's a duke or a monarch or a landowner from Ireland or England or Rome. The working classes have always had the short straw. Therefore this is not a nationality issue, this is a class issue and the lower working classes of society in Ireland, also England by the way have always had it bad. Don't forget that the English had to live closer to the monarchy than the Irish did. In some ways that worse.
@seansmith2223
@seansmith2223 9 жыл бұрын
Andy Smith Wait .... So your saying it wasn't England/Britain at fault but it was the Irish class system - which was created by the British imposing Penal Laws. And then you go and turn the story around and say that the British had it worse. I'm sorry mate but you've been sold the wrong history ..... by your faltering, propaganda/education system. :)
@andysmith5077
@andysmith5077 9 жыл бұрын
Sean Smith I like the way you took absolutely everything I said completely the wrong way. Wow you need to go back to school. British imposing penal laws? Lol wow just wow. Did we not have class systems before Britain was even a word?
@Batten-jc6ws
@Batten-jc6ws 3 жыл бұрын
Five minutes into this video and my head is spinning so bad that I need a pint of Guinness.
@jamesshoemaker684
@jamesshoemaker684 3 жыл бұрын
Was alot of facts comming fast.
@ruddinliew2688
@ruddinliew2688 3 жыл бұрын
Dont blame you, i took an aspirin and went to sleep. My dream was clearer of the history.. i cud understand the naration🙂🙂
@NornIronMan5
@NornIronMan5 2 жыл бұрын
And Guinness isn't even an Irish drink......
@frankhornby6873
@frankhornby6873 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry....after 10 pints of Guinness it will start to make sense.....
@trhvids
@trhvids 2 жыл бұрын
@@NornIronMan5 it is
@adekajar4943
@adekajar4943 Жыл бұрын
A great source, a lot of information on the conflict, very understandable and detailed, I didn't even know that it went all the way back to the Norman conquest...and how much history the Northern Irish conflict had...Amazing video, highly recommend to anyone who needs info on this!👍👍👍
@hisambenar
@hisambenar 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@politicallyabstract6559
@politicallyabstract6559 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Swede, trying to educate my self a bit about this conflict and damn, it's been going on for far longer than I thought.
@LorcanG
@LorcanG 3 жыл бұрын
Anything after 1936 is boring as fuck, and the troubles are aight i guess. But the amount of first hand records of the civil war and the uprising is soo much, interesting too, i had a great grandfather who escaped the cork jail, shot loyalists rats and made chemical bombs for em black and tans they well deserved it..... okay Im done now haha.
@georgeasmundwiik6688
@georgeasmundwiik6688 3 жыл бұрын
Hai Think NORWAY and Sweden, as rivals. Yeah. My Farr komma fra Alesund, ja. Yeah. 🤔😗
@-RunninNGunnin-
@-RunninNGunnin- 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Finland and I really like reading about the history and conflicts of other countries, in this case The Troubles. The history of Finland is so boring, the WW2 being an exception.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 3 жыл бұрын
Some Norwegians were involved, around 900 years ago.
@Sjnez
@Sjnez 3 жыл бұрын
Swedish people have
@JeffisWinning
@JeffisWinning 5 жыл бұрын
Well, that was confusing.
@roofieandraggy16
@roofieandraggy16 5 жыл бұрын
And I thought the south was petty for not getting over a war that was 200 years ago😅
@LeSethX
@LeSethX 5 жыл бұрын
That's European history in general. Make that most history. One thing leads to another which has unexpected consequences and simple matters are now complex.
@Rosa-xk1xs
@Rosa-xk1xs 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not got better No government for over 2 years It’s a world record
@noifurze6397
@noifurze6397 4 жыл бұрын
Most people in the UK and Ireland find it extremely confusing imagine if you come from a different country
@stephenwright8824
@stephenwright8824 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rosa-xk1xs The pols would be better off to forget both native languages ever existed. But rationality prevents them from choosing such an exit.
@jamesfitzpatrick1042
@jamesfitzpatrick1042 Жыл бұрын
So informal thank you so much ❤
@will_hargreaves
@will_hargreaves 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this informative video 👍
@cbrockbishop1566
@cbrockbishop1566 4 жыл бұрын
This story of Ireland reminds me of Edward R Murrows comment about Vietnam, "If you're not confused by what's going on over there, you don't understand the situation..."
@colin-campbell
@colin-campbell 4 жыл бұрын
How can you tell if someone’s an atheist? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
@henryphilippeaux3566
@henryphilippeaux3566 3 жыл бұрын
@@colin-campbell where I am, Christians are much louder about their beliefs
@kevinkehoe6407
@kevinkehoe6407 3 жыл бұрын
@@henryphilippeaux3566 sure they write it on their legal tender in some countries"in God we trust" I wonder which of the thousands of gods throughout human history they are talking about ,hope they chose they right on to trust 😄
@paddymuldoon6718
@paddymuldoon6718 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not that confusing to be honest
@erwinz5926
@erwinz5926 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinkehoe6407 actually, it does not really matter. even if they basically mean the same, priest will give their blessings behind both frontlines and when the desserteurs are executed.
@k60355286
@k60355286 3 жыл бұрын
If OzzyMan explained this, he would basically say "It's fooked up."
@funkykriz21
@funkykriz21 3 жыл бұрын
:D yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@thedoreman8537
@thedoreman8537 3 жыл бұрын
Shit mixed
@haroldinho9930
@haroldinho9930 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see him talk about this. I’m Northern Irish.
@davidalancarroll2456
@davidalancarroll2456 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your generous boundary markings.
@ShiningNoctowls
@ShiningNoctowls 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing; take care 🔥
@thndr_5468
@thndr_5468 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is supposed to be a simplified version but I am not even half way through and I'm totally lost.
@MikeGreenwood51
@MikeGreenwood51 5 жыл бұрын
He covers a thousand years in 11:48 minutes. So unless it is already your history or in your blood then he is covering a lot at speed.
@reb-xu9di
@reb-xu9di 5 жыл бұрын
You probably took a wrong turn around Dundalk, about turn & retrace your steps until you find somewhere you recognise.
@MikeGreenwood51
@MikeGreenwood51 5 жыл бұрын
@@reb-xu9di Dundalk is likely a lot bigger since Year 1066-1087. That's not the hour but the year. But to some one not of the Nations directly evolved it can seem complicated I am sure as the video uses expressions such as 'The King of England. Where as he was about as much the King of England as Adolf Hitler was the French Fuhrer. So whilst the video says 'King of England' The English were aware they already had a King and their King was not William the Bastard as some call him. Duke of Normandy. But that is how some historians refer to him. With out mentioning the Normans were not actual English but claimants by axe, sword and bloody conquest and the murder of King Harold Godwinson who was the King of England. Before he, Harold deceased suddenly in 1066 at the Battle of Hastings. So even the Irish may have been scratching their heads when Henry II Beauclerc 1154-1189 landed in Ireland in 1171 claiming he was the King of England when in fact he was the son of William the Bastard Norman who had murdered the King of England in Battle. Edgar Atheling the rightful King was not up to the challenge of turning the Normans away and so William the Bastard crowned himself on Christmas Day 1066. So if there were thousands of Norman's running around Ireland 105 years later claiming they were English then it is understandable from the English point of view that there may be a lot of good seriously bloody reasons why some people even at that time got a bit lost. Especially if the Normans showed the Irish their piece of paper saying they were rightfully there by authorisation of the Papacy (Pope Adrian 4th) to strengthen the hold of the Papacy over the Irish Catholic Church. So there it is. The Pope authorising a Norman to invade Ireland claiming he was the King or England whilst the real King of England was in a secret location not objecting as vigorously as needed if he wanted to turn away the conquest. But obviously Henry II Anjou Curtmantle was not in parley with the King of England who was not crowned as William the bastard had taken the crown and so Henry the II was in parley with the Pope. So whilst a supposed invasion by the King of England was occurring the English were likely not even aware they were apparently supposed to be invading on behalf of the bloody Pope. As it was not an English invasion but a Norman Anjou Invasion claiming they were English. But regardless of the fact the invaders were Papist Normans and Anjou Angevins claiming they were the King of England. The real English people were not likely to complain or stress the point over enthusiastically as they were aware that any argument with the Normans could result in their head laying on the ground not able to stand as the head had been parted f rom its legs and shoulders. Likely a few Irish ceased any ideas of any further argument with the Norman Bates King Henry II when they saw their fellow heads laying silently in the mud. Well they may have said (Not the severed heads) but the remaining. 'If the Pope wants to reform the control of the Irish Church with the King of England who is really the Son of William the bastard then maybe as with the King of England we should just let him get on with it'. So very easy to get lost! There are further complications or reasons why some got lost as many did lose or get lost. The Invasion by Henry was an invasion after the Invasion by 'Strongbow' the Earl of Penbroke and Diarmait Mac Murchada King of Leinster to Conquer Dublin (Dyvlin) which had been a Viking settlement. So whilst some may have considered the invasions to be invasions of Ireland they may have in fact been invasions of the Vikings slavery tyrants who had invaded Ireland and operated rape and pillage for slaves against the English Welsh and Scottish for more than a century from Ireland. So in fact Ireland fell to the King of England (Henry II - The Norman) by agreement with an arrangement with the deposed King of Leinster who had sought Henry the seconds assistance to regain his Leinster Kingdom. So the so called Anglo Norman Henry II was invading with the Irish (Leinster Kingdom Irish) to retake his Kingdom and defeat the invader Vikings. So whilst it is often referred to as an Invasion of Ireland by the King of England. It was more an organised co-operation posy who entered from Wales and England with the Leinster Irish to oust their enemies the Viking piratical rapist murderers. So it was a bit more comparable with the joint task force posy entering the Viking Norman Bates mansion to oust the aggressor Norman Bates who was not Irish but an invader from the Norse Viking raiders. So the house may have been on Irish soil on Ireland. The targets were not Irish as they were Vikings who may have claimed to be the King of Ireland. They had settled in Dublin (Darkpool) as early as the year 841. So they had been there for nigh 300 years.
@noifurze6397
@noifurze6397 5 жыл бұрын
the full in-depth history would leave you totally baffled
@Miarosepetals
@Miarosepetals 4 жыл бұрын
Noi Furze I mean..... not really... It’s not that complicated. It’s just justice against Money and Power over and over again. Take out the prods and it’s just chief and clans who owned the land, (I am technically apart of one of them, the O’Cahans) and everything else is simple. For anyone who isn’t irish it may not necessarily be hard for them, it just depends on the person.
@gimligloinson972
@gimligloinson972 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has lived in Northern Ireland all his life it rly sucks that people resort to violence so quickly, I’m 20 and wasn’t alive during the troubles but I hear many horror stories from my parents and grandparents about threats on business and the employees and such. I just hope that one day we can simply resolve these issues without violence and even as a Protestant Christian I couldn’t care less if it came about through joining Ireland or staying in the UK, I just wish all this crap would stop
@bigjuicypotato1482
@bigjuicypotato1482 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I didn't live during the troubles but my mum lived right beside a police station in a catholic area. That's not the best combo and she has so many horrifying stories.
@mito88
@mito88 3 жыл бұрын
you haven't lived in Northern Ireland all your life yet. :)
@robert6106
@robert6106 3 жыл бұрын
@@mito88 That is fun, No Surrender!
@gimligloinson972
@gimligloinson972 3 жыл бұрын
@First Name feel free to enlighten me on how clueless I am
@tonysmith5566
@tonysmith5566 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigjuicypotato1482 what are they
@elizaengen4141
@elizaengen4141 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good overview.
@lincolnsgirl8831
@lincolnsgirl8831 11 ай бұрын
this is excellent ~ i appreciate the ton of info jammed into a short vid -- but as an American, i find it a little difficult to understand. i'm watching it again with the speed adjusted to 0.75 -- that, along with Closed Captioning -- makes it easier to catch every word and retain the info. fascinating stuff!!
@EmiFolkMusic
@EmiFolkMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the subtitles. Is a big help for those of us who don't know English that well, but enough to read and listen.
@jo--jw7hv
@jo--jw7hv 5 жыл бұрын
U explained this better than 2 documentaries, each 1,5 h long, which we watched with my english teacher Thanks mate
@Socman-fu1gs
@Socman-fu1gs 4 жыл бұрын
Shame on you
@Cora-ck1du
@Cora-ck1du 4 жыл бұрын
Sam O'Connor ..?
@blackoak4978
@blackoak4978 4 жыл бұрын
Now we need another one just to follow what happens with Brexit, lol
@lawrencedillard9938
@lawrencedillard9938 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is a complicated history, that you managed to distill down to it's constituent parts very very well. I commend you sir. Thank you.
@jimrubadue358
@jimrubadue358 2 жыл бұрын
uk and Ireland are the same thing
@eireball
@eireball 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimrubadue358 okay. What does that have to do with the comment though.
@darthonian8857
@darthonian8857 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice explaination the whole subject has baffled me for years, Now I'm at .least a little clearer :)
@sarahduggan2794
@sarahduggan2794 3 жыл бұрын
Well it was a nightmare for me growing up as a kid.. Even though both parents was Irish, I was born in England, London.. I had a British accent and British passport ... Only Irish family on our street, the British kids on my road would sometimes be a unfriendly with me... saying I that my father thick and was nothing but a terrorist. But I went to a catholic primary and secondary school, which was good, because the most of us was London Irish kids.. But in the summer going to limerick, because of my British accent, I would have things said to me by other kids and also my cousin’s would take the piss out of me, I felt like I didn’t fit in anywhere.. this is why us plastic paddy’s fitted in so well at primary and secondary school together..
@kd2239
@kd2239 3 жыл бұрын
sorry about that dude. as an irishman i can only say you are welcome home to ireland anytime.
@gw2955
@gw2955 3 жыл бұрын
I don't believe you're a plastic paddy. You're Irish by ancestry and culturally English/Irish. A plastic paddy is like some American who has a great Grandpa from Ireland and calls themselves Irish instead of Irish American.
@sarahduggan2794
@sarahduggan2794 3 жыл бұрын
@@gw2955 arrhh thank you so much for kind words... My Father, still as a joke calls me a plastic paddy or on Christmas Day when the queen does her speech, dad says stand up the nations song is on.. she’s your queen... lol.. lol...and I say to him, say number three and I say no that’s a tree outside... so yeah we take the piss out of each other...
@WiseOne93
@WiseOne93 3 жыл бұрын
That's just immature and low minded people for you. Not all Brits are like that though and some are decent but very hard to find in England. I had a tough time in school aswell in England. Once, I was called "Chinese" by an Irishman and find that very insulting. Discrimination and racism is used by every race. Plus my cousins would take the piss out of me since they were God gifted just because they were born into a rich family.
@Deiseboi
@Deiseboi 2 жыл бұрын
I am a cork man who moved to UK at the age of ten in 1977..I was called paddy mick etc...I lived in Brighton and when it was bombed I was then called ira c##t..I soon lost my Irish accent...I returned to Ireland 15yrs ago and worked in a hotel as a barman then I get called the black and tanned..you can't win..
@emilyanthony9105
@emilyanthony9105 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy watching this in 2021, as a young person from Belfast, while the city burns due to more sectarian violence. Makes me sad to just see history repeating itself, especially after we had come so far 💔
@borninthewoods4482
@borninthewoods4482 3 жыл бұрын
History is destined to repeat itself. Just look what's going on in Russia and Ukraine.
@Luka-zf2ye
@Luka-zf2ye 3 жыл бұрын
@@borninthewoods4482 What's going on in Ukraine?
@cutesy1631
@cutesy1631 3 жыл бұрын
yes, is so sad see this religion conflict in 2021 still going on in Europe...
@ric112
@ric112 3 жыл бұрын
sadly, there will always be greedy, incompetent bastards who have little to no understanding of the situation, rising to positions of power, and right now we have the most incompetent in a long while.
@jimmyohara2601
@jimmyohara2601 3 жыл бұрын
Yahs never ever even came so far at all. Just but only skin deep ready to explode at the drop of a feather (or coin). All countries that were colonies or parts of eastern block, ruled over etc, fell into disrepair, tribal warfare, ethnic cleansing & sectarian tensions & or violence. South Sudan being a most recent example. hmmm 🤔🙄😐☹️.
@glasgowmcglasgowfacevotegr7049
@glasgowmcglasgowfacevotegr7049 3 жыл бұрын
"Why Ireland split" is a bit misleading - it implies it was the decision of the Irish. "Why did Britain conquer and partition Ireland" is more apt. Ah the British - leaving absolute chaos in their wake no matter where they go.
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the partition agreed with the Irish Govt ?
@thedoreman8537
@thedoreman8537 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelprobert4014 that's a complicated question
@objectivet2022
@objectivet2022 3 жыл бұрын
Its in the past. You can learn from it but not change it. Lots of countries have a chequered history.
@mickjslavin2109
@mickjslavin2109 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelprobert4014 and why did you think they agreed. Sick of seeing there subjects murdered and raped.
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 3 жыл бұрын
@@mickjslavin2109 To prevent another civil war , I think .
@at_brunch3852
@at_brunch3852 11 ай бұрын
The last words you said are the best words I’ve heard in decades. Thank you. 🕊
@marcelinaperezshaner8121
@marcelinaperezshaner8121 3 жыл бұрын
Im an American ,and i hope all the people of Ireland,Norhern Ireland and England have an everlasting love and peace .thats my prayer.
@vacey2623
@vacey2623 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marcelinaperezshaner8121
@marcelinaperezshaner8121 3 жыл бұрын
I live in a city that had 400 murders in 2020 ,i been capped myself cutty.i said a humble prayer.you must drinking Killiens Red at the pub .your comment os as distasteful as your choice of beer ..i bind you in the namme of San Antonio Shanus or watever that midevil name is .lol
@Mark_Master1
@Mark_Master1 3 жыл бұрын
oh nieve americans
@gnom98
@gnom98 Жыл бұрын
Shut up protestant as a American Catholic I hope that the Irish take back their rightful land from English scum
@davidsivills3599
@davidsivills3599 Жыл бұрын
Never work between English and the Irish.
@whiterabbit9141
@whiterabbit9141 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a small town called Corby in the middle of England, it had a lot of Scottish and Irish living there and I can remember whenever you met someone you didn't know the very first question you asked them was , " are you catholic or protestant ", it seems an odd thing to start a conversation with now but at the time in the 80s it felt completely normal.
@antseanbheanbocht4993
@antseanbheanbocht4993 4 жыл бұрын
I asked a Scot on the run in Achille island in mayo that very question when I used to visit the place 25 years ago, his answer was I'm a protestant but it makes me no better or worse. I never asked anyone else that question again. His girl and child came over and stayed a while but one day I went down and they had left. Really sound lad. Never seen them again.
@bingola45
@bingola45 4 жыл бұрын
@@antseanbheanbocht4993 It used to be important. Not so much now.
@Supreme_321
@Supreme_321 4 жыл бұрын
I know theres a huge Scottish presence there, but irish?! Never heard that one before...
@hbsblkk3842
@hbsblkk3842 3 жыл бұрын
I worked in Corby for two years and what struck me was the amount of Rangers and Celtic kits being worn in a town in middle England, so much so that the JD Sports were selling the kits! Also the children/grandchildren of the Scottish immigrants born and raised in Corby had a Scottish twang to their accents, was bizarre lol!
@antoindearg5614
@antoindearg5614 3 жыл бұрын
A good few folks from the area I grew up (Motherwell in Lanarkshire, Scotland) moved down to Corby to work in the local heavy industries, due to all the Steelworks etc in our area being cut back and eventually closed. Not surprised the shirts of Glasgow's 'Ugly Sisters' were selling well.
@Alex-id6eb
@Alex-id6eb Жыл бұрын
As a Scotsman I’ve always been interested in the history of ulster, this video explained it pretty well 👍🏻
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
@Tran Duy He was more than likely a Glasgow Rangers supporter. Those people are the worst.
@jamesshoemaker684
@jamesshoemaker684 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Alot I didn't know.
@therandomhat_
@therandomhat_ 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder what kind of intellectual, meaningful conversations are going on in the comment section... *Oh*
@raya.estevez3354
@raya.estevez3354 6 жыл бұрын
*OH*
@someonenoneofyourbuisnessn5194
@someonenoneofyourbuisnessn5194 6 жыл бұрын
Irish and british clashing it out. (Im on no side)
@Hela03
@Hela03 6 жыл бұрын
XD
@petarmitkov1056
@petarmitkov1056 5 жыл бұрын
*_O H_*
@jacquiewalton1355
@jacquiewalton1355 5 жыл бұрын
@BigBlackBootyDaddy Good job you know your place micky .....While you're down there ...!
@mat7279
@mat7279 5 жыл бұрын
The terms Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland don't work because the most northern point on the island of Ireland is in "southern Ireland"
@MikeGreenwood51
@MikeGreenwood51 5 жыл бұрын
No no no. Northern Ireland is the part of Ireland north of the south. The geographics are related to compass bearings so even in the south there is a north. Even Fastnet rock has a northern side.
@carpetslime
@carpetslime 5 жыл бұрын
@@MikeGreenwood51 The northernmost point on the island of Ireland is in Donegal - a county in Ireland, not in Northern Ireland. So part of "the south" is actually more northern than "the north".
@Miarosepetals
@Miarosepetals 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, so what about North West and North East, South West and South East?
@kierancrowne3478
@kierancrowne3478 4 жыл бұрын
Should be called the 6 counties because 1/3 of the North is in the Republic.
@DisconnectedRoamer
@DisconnectedRoamer 4 жыл бұрын
I never hear anyone say southern ireland. Its either northern or republic
@ciaran3207
@ciaran3207 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, just one point I would add at the very start. The Normans in England were encouraged into Ireland by the then King of Leinster, Dermot McMurrough in 1170. What an eejit!!!
@debratansey6074
@debratansey6074 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering what people on both sides think about the film The Wind That Blows the Barley, it was that film that made me look into everything I thought I knew about Ireland
@knockshinnoch1950
@knockshinnoch1950 9 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel. Short informative & entertaining videos. You should be applauded for taking often complex subjects, breaking them down, simplifying them and making them accessible for all. Simple text/narrative & relevant visuals. You are an excellent communicator and I guess a teacher by profession?
@WonderWhy
@WonderWhy 9 жыл бұрын
knockshinnoch1950 Wow, thanks very much for the comment. No, I have absolutely no teaching experience whatsoever. I'm just a guy who had a lot of free time and decided to start making KZbin videos!
@knockshinnoch1950
@knockshinnoch1950 9 жыл бұрын
Well keep going Mr. Are you from Glasgow? I'm also a Scot- nice to hear our accent online.
@WonderWhy
@WonderWhy 9 жыл бұрын
Well... pretty near Glasgow. It's definitely the closest city to where I'm from.
@knockshinnoch1950
@knockshinnoch1950 9 жыл бұрын
Same her Mr. Keep up the excellent work!
@Adrian-ju7cm
@Adrian-ju7cm 8 жыл бұрын
+Rico Suave not the same mate dutch are Germanic people, Scottish are mostly Celtic like the Irish
@hariesen1177
@hariesen1177 5 жыл бұрын
Word of advice: play this video at 0.75 speed
@dmkuchins6646
@dmkuchins6646 5 жыл бұрын
because narrator talks way too fast and has a weird accent.
@psyke1391
@psyke1391 5 жыл бұрын
@@dmkuchins6646 i really dont know what your talking about, his speech is really clear!
5 жыл бұрын
No
@Stoneface_
@Stoneface_ 5 жыл бұрын
Final Tuned damm are you triggered?
@holliebrooke7327
@holliebrooke7327 4 жыл бұрын
it doesn't sound scottish anymore woah
@rosieleaverton
@rosieleaverton 7 ай бұрын
My grandmother immigrated from Belfast in the 70s after marrying my grandfather (who was a missionary from the US). She had an exceptional memory and was born a few years after WWII when there was all the bombings across the UK, so she had a lot of trauma. I never formally met her (she died when I was a baby), but she went through a lot and I wish I could've learned a thing or two from her. I do hope to travel to NI someday and meet her family who still lives there and learn more about their personal history.
@spiffy7019
@spiffy7019 2 жыл бұрын
My great granduncle was actually the captain of the main military leader of the anti treaty side during the war of independence, but then fought against him in the civil war.
@5888max
@5888max Жыл бұрын
Rubbish there was no ''anti treaty side '' in the war of Independence due to there being at that time no treaty ! The civil war did have a anti treaty side .God knows what side your granduncle was on you are confused
@krish5445
@krish5445 4 жыл бұрын
The whole area around U.K and Ireland is pretty complicated for an outsider to understand. So many countries inside countries, controversies.
@krish5445
@krish5445 4 жыл бұрын
@@randomvidios09 Yea you right maybe Northern Ireland will join Ireland and be the Rep of Ireland but even inside Britain there are 3 countries and Isle of Man etc etc. I think the British like things complicated.
@benis4958
@benis4958 4 жыл бұрын
Not that hard though. Wales is small and fucks sheep but nice, Scotland's nice enough, England is fucking England, northern Ireland is a bruh moment and republic of irepand is nice.
@containedhurricane
@containedhurricane 4 жыл бұрын
@@randomvidios09 Did you mean English people instead British people? Wasn't it the English royal family who ruled at that time?
@tychu9
@tychu9 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not that complicated. The Island of Britain has three Home Nations: England, Scotland, and Wales. Scotland has its own parliament. Then there are the Crown Colonies of the Island of Wight and Island of Man. Then the Channel Islands of Jersey, Guernsey, and (starts with an “A” I believe) and then there’s Northern Ireland. Which is a full member of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
@bradd188
@bradd188 4 жыл бұрын
Damn right is confusing lol I always hear England Ireland Scotland Britain great Britain and the UK and I can never remember who's apart of who lol the only thing I know for sure is that they're all in Europe lol
@dylanbrownie
@dylanbrownie 8 жыл бұрын
WonderWhy, have you quit KZbin?
@WonderWhy
@WonderWhy 8 жыл бұрын
No, I'm still here. Next video is in the works but still a lot to be done. Haven't had much time lately.
@circle275
@circle275 8 жыл бұрын
WonderWhy, You're a great youtuber. I always enjoy your videos, and I'm anticipating for the next!
@RyesChannel1
@RyesChannel1 8 жыл бұрын
+Pedro. Jr These videos are very well done. I'm not surprised it takes as long as it does, especially if his real life is also very busy.
@MolotovBurner100
@MolotovBurner100 8 жыл бұрын
Can you give a link to your profile pic Dylan?
@dylanbrownie
@dylanbrownie 8 жыл бұрын
I made it myself. But you can go onto my Google+ and copy and paste it if you want.
@watdafuk21
@watdafuk21 3 жыл бұрын
Been living in Ireland for 20 years, such humble and lovely people. Always love their guinness as I do too 🙌
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 2 жыл бұрын
Have you met every Irish person?
@TangoNevada
@TangoNevada 2 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland or Southern and is Northern Ireland actually Ireland? I have no clue at this point. They're all on he same Island. Just call the whole thing Ireland regardless of religion. You know, like how the US is so peaceful being the "United States". No problems here. It's not like anyone is trying to overthrow the Government or anything.
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 2 жыл бұрын
@@TangoNevada All countries are part of the same globe.
@TangoNevada
@TangoNevada 2 жыл бұрын
@@saxglend9439 You actually think the Earth is a Globe and not Flat? /s
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 2 жыл бұрын
@@TangoNevada I've been brainwashed to believe that.
@Myself-yf5do
@Myself-yf5do Жыл бұрын
There is a song about the Easter Rising. It is called The Foggy Dew.
@AliciaNyblade
@AliciaNyblade 5 жыл бұрын
As an American who grew up in the '90s, I remember first learning about The Troubles in segments on the news as the buildup to the Good Friday Agreement was unfolding. Being quite young--I was 10 in '98--I didn't fully understand the conflict at the time, but it broke my heart to hear about people suffering in such a vicious cycle of violence. This video seemed very insightful and explained a lot. Thanks for sharing. May everyone in Ireland find and strive for healing, peace, and love. Blessed be. )O(
@Normalguy1690
@Normalguy1690 4 жыл бұрын
Alicia Nyblade from Belfast a loyal Ulster man and I thank you for your kind words.
@wor53lg50
@wor53lg50 Жыл бұрын
@@Normalguy1690 well said, something tells me she didnt have the loyalist irish people in mind, i bet she didnt even know they existed, she just thinking those poor irish getting bullied by them nasty british..GSTK brother...
@somebody9232
@somebody9232 10 ай бұрын
​@@Normalguy1690the red right hand
@Chubbchubbzza007
@Chubbchubbzza007 9 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland is Irish!
@bluekirky
@bluekirky 9 жыл бұрын
No, it's British
@kinseyeire
@kinseyeire 9 жыл бұрын
bluekirky Northern Ireland is located in the United Kingdom. Britain is the island containing England, Scotland and Wales.
@WannabeMarsanach
@WannabeMarsanach 9 жыл бұрын
***** No, he means Northern Ireland. It exists whether we like it or not.
@WannabeMarsanach
@WannabeMarsanach 9 жыл бұрын
***** Ulster Plantation? Ever heard of it? Not all can be considered ethnically Irish.
@WannabeMarsanach
@WannabeMarsanach 9 жыл бұрын
***** The land maybe, but not all the people are Irish no do all have Irish heritage, and that shouldn't be forgotten because they're here to stay whether you like it or not.
@RedRiverMan
@RedRiverMan Жыл бұрын
this was a good synopsis of an exhaustive history but good gracious how much he leaves out!
@DJRAJEE
@DJRAJEE 3 жыл бұрын
good video
@RookieCook
@RookieCook 6 жыл бұрын
I realise it's difficult to reduce the entire history into 12 minutes but brushing past the extreme brutality of the Black and Tans does a huge disservice to the Irish people of the time.
@briandooley49
@briandooley49 6 жыл бұрын
Its British, ignore bad stuff and talk about queens and kings and knight and battles till it appears like an episode of Game of Thrones. Not burning a city centres down and removing Irish people of their land and replacing them with ''irish'' protestants from Britain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Cork
@keithgray4905
@keithgray4905 6 жыл бұрын
I think that declaring that the troubles occurred solely as a result of Catholics wishing to join Ireland is incredibly over simplified too. Glosses over the lack of civil rights for Northern Irish catholics at the time
@jimholloway615
@jimholloway615 5 жыл бұрын
I think the Famine might have deserved a mention, but it's a decent attempt to get beyond stereotypes.
@galaxyred7
@galaxyred7 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Holloway A reaaon i think Ireland rebelled against britain was because of how unresponsive Britain were against the famine in Ireland. Our population at that time was 8 million and rising quickly until The Famine came along.
@gojimovedchannel1478
@gojimovedchannel1478 2 жыл бұрын
@@briandooley49 cope
@FRISHR
@FRISHR 4 жыл бұрын
Ireland is basically British Invasion: Level 1
@paullooney2522
@paullooney2522 4 жыл бұрын
YEP and level 10 are globalists,and they are going to do majour dammage.
@CelticFan-tv5kt
@CelticFan-tv5kt 4 жыл бұрын
YEP and level 20 are gypsies,their caravans will take over the motorway and other roads.
@dinoxman8584
@dinoxman8584 3 жыл бұрын
YEP and level 30 are the Travellers, they live on roundabouts and are bound to steal your dog!
@CelticFan-tv5kt
@CelticFan-tv5kt 3 жыл бұрын
YEP and Level 40 the Canadians would have moved in and ireland will all be snow
@rabboyce4770
@rabboyce4770 3 жыл бұрын
English invasion Scotland never invaded anywhere
@MichaelDelaware
@MichaelDelaware 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see an update on this video now that it is 2021. Have they been removing the walls?
@Stephno86
@Stephno86 3 жыл бұрын
nope!...nor will they for years to come sadly :(
@pecadodeorgullo5963
@pecadodeorgullo5963 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stephno86 I think Fermanagh is the only place where you don't see much signs of them.
@rhymeplayerkudio3307
@rhymeplayerkudio3307 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Could you please send me the background pic of the video?
@priyamtolani1480
@priyamtolani1480 6 жыл бұрын
It's ironic how the northern Irish were the first to revolt against the British rule but later ended up joining Britain instead of becoming independent
@fionawilliams6276
@fionawilliams6276 6 жыл бұрын
Who in Northern Ireland? The native Irish(catholics) or the British colonists(Protestant) Northern was created in 1921. The British colonists never revolted against their ''mother'' country and most Irish people in Northern Ireland, dont even call themselves ''northern'' Irish''. Thats an artificial construct post 1921.
@chiefgilray
@chiefgilray 6 жыл бұрын
Priyam Tolani northern Ireland is not in Britain
@JMBPro
@JMBPro 6 жыл бұрын
Priyam Tolani that's because the majority of those living in Northern Ireland are descendents of British people who also consider themselves British
@chiefgilray
@chiefgilray 6 жыл бұрын
Danny Archer the clue is in the title 'the united kingdom of GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND!!! The uk gov also bankroll many other countries who are also NOT british!
@chiefgilray
@chiefgilray 6 жыл бұрын
JMB Pro 'consider' but they are NOT british they have not been british since the plantations!
@Irish780
@Irish780 7 жыл бұрын
Irish history is very little discussed in British schools'. we all know why
@JuanKuzov
@JuanKuzov 6 жыл бұрын
because its shit
@JuanKuzov
@JuanKuzov 6 жыл бұрын
truth hurt chief? oh i forgot inviting american companys to dodge their taxes, you are superb at that.
@fifth-yaboi8914
@fifth-yaboi8914 6 жыл бұрын
FireCrackerJim And what did the English do? They invaded all but 22 countries killing thousands but overall every country has done bad things
@JuanKuzov
@JuanKuzov 6 жыл бұрын
Commander Cody it was our fun and we loved it, clusters army that slaughtered the natives was mostly Irish......nice
@fifth-yaboi8914
@fifth-yaboi8914 6 жыл бұрын
FireCrackerJim The English did it to rule the country’s
@Shinji_1943
@Shinji_1943 3 жыл бұрын
Ireland never had an option in splitting it was forcefully partitioned by the British.
@DT-yd6ex
@DT-yd6ex 2 жыл бұрын
Read up on the Border Commission.
@SEANBANOG4
@SEANBANOG4 2 жыл бұрын
@@DT-yd6ex look up Gerrymandering
@pearseashebowden4744
@pearseashebowden4744 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly but don’t worry they’ll give us our county back soon but for the wrong reasons. It cost British government nearly 1 million pound a day to run Belfast alone so they’ll give in soon within next ten years I’m guessing
@JoJo_Mariee
@JoJo_Mariee 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, somebody makes sense for once.
@freneticness6927
@freneticness6927 2 жыл бұрын
@@pearseashebowden4744 As an irish guess there is a 100% chance the guess is wrong.
@JessicaMiller-pc4dj
@JessicaMiller-pc4dj 3 жыл бұрын
This was super hard to follow 🤯🥺.
@Couly
@Couly 6 жыл бұрын
Guy in Belfast: "I'm British" Ali G - "Is you on holidays?"
@rayvaughan3197
@rayvaughan3197 6 жыл бұрын
Derek Coulahan his greatest and ballsyest ever ..... "what you is all on crack....rispec!"
@jamesdevlin6373
@jamesdevlin6373 6 жыл бұрын
LAHTiger222 not part of Great Britain but the UK
@bluenightwolf1423
@bluenightwolf1423 6 жыл бұрын
I live in Belfast and no one says that most people in Belfast would like it to go back the way it was where the north of Ireland was part of the south again
@pauldunneska
@pauldunneska 6 жыл бұрын
BlueNightWolf That's because all of Ireland was under British rule before 1922,nobody wants that,what we want is a 32 county Irish Republic. Check the latest opinion polls from the BBC/Lucidtalk which found 45% of people in the occupied stolen six counties of Ulster wanted to stay with the UK and 42.1 wanted a United Ireland and 13% don't know. I would say from those figures that's it's roughly 50/50 and the more the British government and DUP screw up brexit the more a United Ireland will be voted in favour in a border referendum in around 2024.
@Jack-ou1pq
@Jack-ou1pq 6 жыл бұрын
"In findings which have added significance because of the Prime Minister’s reported suggestion to Tory MPs last week that she was not confident a border poll would definitely be won by unionism, an Ipsos MORI poll for academics found that just 21.1% of people in Northern Ireland would vote for Irish unity after the UK leaves the EU. The poll, commissioned by academics at Queen’s University Belfast for a major piece of research examining how Brexit is shaping political opinion in Northern Ireland, found that not even half of Catholics would vote for a united Ireland, with just 42.6% of Catholics favouring that option - although a large percentage, 26%, were undecided." (21/05/2018) Paul Dunne the amount of absolute nonsense you've written is unbelievable, honestly didn't expect much from someone saying "nobody wants that,what we want is a 32 county Irish Republic" so i assume you speak for everyone in the island of Ireland when you say this? So the vast majority of protestants and a sizeable proportion of Catholics in Northern Ireland or as you call it "occupied stolen six counties of Ulster" supporting the Union is just a myth?
@SilentEire
@SilentEire 9 жыл бұрын
Until both sides can learn to forget the past and look to the future the hate between the communities in the North will never cease. The violence and hate is pointless and achieves nothing.
@WannabeMarsanach
@WannabeMarsanach 9 жыл бұрын
Conor Kinsella Peace is just another form of unionism, if everything's peaceful British control is normalized, and the Good Friday Agreement secures it. Republicans don't want a union and therefore there can never truly be peace.
@SilentEire
@SilentEire 9 жыл бұрын
Toron That's such a hopeless view to hold. Nothing has been achieved and nothing ever will be as long as we hate one another
@delusionnnnn
@delusionnnnn 9 жыл бұрын
Conor Kinsella Part of the problem with talking about issues like this is that they get recontextualized into whether people want "peace" or not. People who are satisfied with the status quo almost always contextualize a conflict in terms of wanting peace. People who are not satisfied with the status quo can contextualize a conflict in other terms, such as justice, independence, nationalism, human rights, etc. Not that all of these apply in every situation, but one or more usually do, depending on your perspective. "Peace" in the face of injustice is often a blanket term for "peace, but only on our terms". PS: I do not have a horse in this race, being neither Irish nor British, neither Catholic nor Protestant, though I have various European roots to which I don't really hold much of an identity.
@mbanana23456
@mbanana23456 9 жыл бұрын
Well the Irish aren't going to forget easily
@andysmith5077
@andysmith5077 9 жыл бұрын
***** Oh shut up for fuck sake people like you do nothing but add fuel to the fire. I live in Northern Ireland and I love the Irish and Ireland is a gorgeous country. But I would rather be British, I was born British and the majority of Irish and Brits get along fine nowadays. Nobody needs people like you saying " Oh the Irish will never forget blah blah blah " there's right and wrong on both sides.
@e.a.p3174
@e.a.p3174 Жыл бұрын
As a Canadian it's pretty hard to understand why there is so much quarrel between Ireland and Britain. I remember flying over Southern England and it took the 787 about 10-15 minutes to cross from one side to the other, than maybe another 5-10 minutes over Ireland than we entered Canadian airspace over Labrador it takes 7 hours to fly across the country to get to Vancouver.
@dione6388
@dione6388 Жыл бұрын
*Republic of Ireland, not Southern Ireland.
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 Жыл бұрын
"As a Canadian it's pretty hard to understand why there is so much quarrel between Ireland and Britain." Not hard at all if you can pick up some history books (preferably not written from the perspective of the British Empire).
@e.a.p3174
@e.a.p3174 Жыл бұрын
@@pritapp788 duh. The point is we are not living in the 19th century but in 21st. Borders don't really mean much. How many Irish people live in England or vice versa?
@CrookedSkew
@CrookedSkew Жыл бұрын
@@e.a.p3174 It's a fair point but you're looking at it from an outsiders view. If you lived in NI and through The Troubles or were a child whose parents did, you'd see it's not as simple as just using "common sense". Even now both sides antagonise each other.
@e.a.p3174
@e.a.p3174 Жыл бұрын
@@CrookedSkew yes I know I have a friend who is from the "north of Ireland" as he puts it, and I have friends from Ireland, my friend from the North of Ireland hates absolutely anything English, he couldn't even be gracious about the passing of the Queen. My other Irish friends have great relations with the English, one even served in the British army. My point is how are you going to ever solve the hatred, if you don't make conscious start to stop hating. Both sides in the North in my view bring shame to Jesus Christ, neither side in my view is Christian but in name only and the pervert the name of our Saviour.
@weximan1
@weximan1 2 жыл бұрын
Very good
@YukiPyro
@YukiPyro 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine, The Brits had an Empire that was all over the World.. 2020: They can barely control their own country.
@fullenglishbreakfast3289
@fullenglishbreakfast3289 4 жыл бұрын
Really??? We don't have an empire anymore, we call it the commonwealth now 😉 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@fullenglishbreakfast3289
@fullenglishbreakfast3289 4 жыл бұрын
@@saugaat4672 is that why it's an honour to serve in the Gurkhas in the British army??? I served myself with the Gurkhas
@fullenglishbreakfast3289
@fullenglishbreakfast3289 4 жыл бұрын
@@saugaat4672 we'd rather have you as as allies. I certainly would anyway, best troops I ever worked with
@nobrang5146
@nobrang5146 4 жыл бұрын
Now they are selling themselves out to Trump after Brexit ~ now its a US puppet state
@nobrang5146
@nobrang5146 4 жыл бұрын
@Roy Ccc Nah its because I've seem videos of Pro-Brexiters praising Trump and all that sh1t. So basically you became his B1tch
@europa_bambaataa
@europa_bambaataa 3 жыл бұрын
I have arrived back at this fine video today. I've watched the first 18 seconds and it's all flooding back - THIS VIDEO IS REALLY REALLY FUCKING GOOD. OK now I'mma watch it again.
@launchit0a155
@launchit0a155 3 ай бұрын
thank you, im from Manchester UK, i appreciate the education i have received
@Logangil515
@Logangil515 3 жыл бұрын
I’m from the US and I think this is so interesting
@syn_tekken3055
@syn_tekken3055 3 жыл бұрын
I was today years old when I realised where the phrase ‘beyond the pale’ comes from...
@wandaperi
@wandaperi 3 жыл бұрын
O'Normie years old
@turner83shane78
@turner83shane78 3 жыл бұрын
The explanation of the troubles from the 1960s is lacking accuracy in its description. The troubles began when Catholics in Northern Ireland marched in peaceful demonstrations to protest against discrimination. Catholics were treated as second class citizens where they were denied housing, jobs and the right to vote. At the time you needed to own a house to have a vote or have tenancy. Many young Catholic families were forced to live with their grandparents as they could be on a waiting list for house that lasted over 10 years. This also meant wealthy protestant landowners with a number of properties had a number of votes. The gerrymandering (by protestant unionists) was very effective at the time in denying Catholics a vote, so in majority Catholic areas the local councils were majority protestant which wasn't an accurate reflection of the people living in that constituency. It was the act of the British government to use violence as a deterrent to these legal democratic protests. The marchers became more determined and the British government became ever more violent. This escalation eventually led to young men fighting for equality to take up arms against Brithish rule which willingly denied Irish Catholics their most basic human rights.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make a longer video to explain it? And explain the Marxist Official IRA and the split with the Provisional IRA, and the support from the Soviets and their puppets for the Provisional IRA?
@turner83shane78
@turner83shane78 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdMcF1 So your argument with the IRA is not that they blew people up, it's that a faction of them are Marxists? I think you should make the video......
@pritapp788
@pritapp788 Жыл бұрын
Don't let your facts and your history get in the way of the narrative please! The Protestants in NI only wanted to give their Catholic peers a taste of, um, "civilisation".
@wor53lg50
@wor53lg50 Жыл бұрын
You failed to mention the reason british was there so the catholics could carry on with their marches and not be hurt maimed or murdered just the same with the prods....get of the woke bus, it really dosnt suit...
@jambocochelli9189
@jambocochelli9189 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those videos you zone out for four seconds and miss 40 years and your lost
@danielvertens6787
@danielvertens6787 3 жыл бұрын
Me: watching Ireland and Yugoslavian history. Mine Brain cells: REALLY!
@JeremyC574
@JeremyC574 4 жыл бұрын
Short answer we didnt have a choice really
@unpixel3797
@unpixel3797 3 жыл бұрын
R u thick
@JeremyC574
@JeremyC574 3 жыл бұрын
?
@unpixel3797
@unpixel3797 3 жыл бұрын
The whole reason northern Ireland exists is cause we did have a choice and we chose to stay in the uk
@JeremyC574
@JeremyC574 3 жыл бұрын
@@unpixel3797 51% of that disagree
@unpixel3797
@unpixel3797 3 жыл бұрын
@@JeremyC574 whered u hear this
@mtdmca
@mtdmca 3 жыл бұрын
As a modern Irish person and after reading the horror of this comment section I just want to say now in days in the Republic practically most people don’t hate the British people, the Government and history yes, but as the old saying is ‘ Sons are not guilty of there Fathers sins ‘. There is also a growing amount of Irish people who don’t want Northern Ireland back even if they did vote to rejoin the rest of the Republic.
@mtdmca
@mtdmca 2 жыл бұрын
@Servus Domini In what sense ?
@jamesiii502
@jamesiii502 2 жыл бұрын
@Servus Domini Southern Ireland has become a corrupt capitalist puppet state run by multinationals and vulture funds. We have very much lost the ways of our 1916 socialist rebellion brothers and sisters, many Irish in the south have been corrupted and have been drawn into capitalist propaganda that we must leave our forgotten and discarded brothers and sisters who were discarded post treaty when partition came in because it will “cost too much money” which is an unfounded claim. The oppressed Irish of old would be ashamed of how this land has turned out a century later. I fear the account that made the initial comment claiming more and more southerners don’t want the north is another person who fallen into capitalist delusion. Any Irish person who still holds the values of the oppressed Irish and the Irish who rebelled vehemently want this island united.
@SteveDorrans
@SteveDorrans 2 жыл бұрын
@Servus Domini I'm from Northern Ireland and can totally understand it. I wouldn't wish the DUP and their supporters on anyone, especially not out neighbours.
@spirit4607
@spirit4607 2 жыл бұрын
"Sons are not guilty of there Fathers sins" Okay, what if sons giving justifications of their father's cruelty? Many Brits try to justify colonization and sometimes even slavery.
@freneticness6927
@freneticness6927 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteveDorrans You have to remember that the republic of ireland fought their own war with republican extremists and many moderate republicans died. The republic of ireland doesnt really want the sinn feinn extremists either. Northern ireland is pretty much the only place in the british isles where people take religion anywhere near seriously.
@geoffreystephens4357
@geoffreystephens4357 Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting! I am Scotch-Irish and love to hear about my family’s homeland! Please tell me if there are a lot of Stephens in Ireland or are they in Scotland! The first Stephens in America came into the US in Pennsylvania! He was an officer in the Revolutionary War! Thanks for the informative video!
@geoffreystephens4357
@geoffreystephens4357 Жыл бұрын
I forgot to tell you what year, sorry! I believe it was in the late1776 or 1777!
@havana9979
@havana9979 Жыл бұрын
bro wtf
@gnom98
@gnom98 Жыл бұрын
It’s an English name.
@FSCforal
@FSCforal 3 жыл бұрын
why can't we all just get along ,spread peace and love ,not hate
@nmikloiche
@nmikloiche 4 жыл бұрын
You know you are American when you roll your eyes at “well, it started in the 12th century”
@dnhy7951
@dnhy7951 4 жыл бұрын
@red x17 Medical Europe is certainly one of the best areas.Great place for a holiday, although not right now of course.Yep, I love Medical Europe!
@dnhy7951
@dnhy7951 4 жыл бұрын
@red x17 Methinks English is not your first language.
@jamesmccomb9525
@jamesmccomb9525 4 жыл бұрын
@red x17 Medical.
@jamesmccomb9525
@jamesmccomb9525 4 жыл бұрын
@red x17 You can't play along with a joke if you're the one that started it...
@cacambo589
@cacambo589 4 жыл бұрын
America existed in the 12th century. Who'da thunk!
@jacquelinemullan4900
@jacquelinemullan4900 4 жыл бұрын
Why wasnt the famine mentioned as it was one off the greatest loss to population estimated one million starved to death!!!!
@ioannislazaridis4887
@ioannislazaridis4887 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for the comment ! Warmedt regards from Greece.
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 4 жыл бұрын
because while it's central to anti british sentiments especially in the modern day looking back it wasn't itself the trigger or cause for the events covered here
@dukeofwellies5963
@dukeofwellies5963 4 жыл бұрын
@@sosikofit Oliver Cromwell (the Puritan Bastard) committed genocide. The famine was gross negligence (still bad, but no way near genocide).
@andyblack5687
@andyblack5687 4 жыл бұрын
This is one reason why it's said that there are more people of Irish descent living in other countries than there are in Ireland. I'm one of them.
@user-qi5jw2hg1c
@user-qi5jw2hg1c 4 жыл бұрын
Because the famine has fuck all to do with partition perhaps?
@Jim54_
@Jim54_ Жыл бұрын
When talking about modern Ireland, one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights. This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on). People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics ever since.
@gizema7387
@gizema7387 3 ай бұрын
thank you so much
@MrDragon1968
@MrDragon1968 7 жыл бұрын
Who'd've thunk a vid on the history of NI and Ireland would bring up angry disagreements and insults by Nationalists and Unionists in the comment section!!!??? :-O
@Willy-nu3oc
@Willy-nu3oc 7 жыл бұрын
me
@thomasodonoghue3239
@thomasodonoghue3239 7 жыл бұрын
MrDragon1968 thunk isn't a word
@siZeDcuBe
@siZeDcuBe 6 жыл бұрын
MrDragon1968 I don't see any unionists
@albertrogers8537
@albertrogers8537 6 жыл бұрын
Don't be silly, MrDragon, of course it would. But have you seen the video in which a Scots comedian, Frankie Boyle I think, although Billy Connolly has another, scoffs at the idea of an Islamic terrorist bringing a religious quarrel to Glasgow when he hasn't even a football team?
@metalviking974
@metalviking974 6 жыл бұрын
Ever seen a video or post about the Irish partition without any Irish Republican comments?^^
@Dampyr94
@Dampyr94 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to all Irish people who give their lives in ww1 on Balkan,when they fight with us (Serbs) against Bulgarian,and when they try to stop 100.000 soldiers with just 8.000.This is not something about this video but is a nice fact.
@Beanbag777
@Beanbag777 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you i didn’t know that 👍
@eoinwilson4228
@eoinwilson4228 4 жыл бұрын
@Artemis Goddess Of Hunting u clueless bastard....christ
@Beanbag777
@Beanbag777 4 жыл бұрын
Artemis Goddess Of Hunting your grammar is a complete embarrassment
@Beanbag777
@Beanbag777 4 жыл бұрын
Artemis Goddess Of Hunting I’ll forgive you for that horrible statement
@eoinwilson4228
@eoinwilson4228 4 жыл бұрын
@Artemis Goddess Of Hunting ye cause we defo went around throwin potatoes at the brits u absolute spud. Btw we gained independance from a country wit 10 times our population which is pretty impressive if u ask me
@DanielVerberne
@DanielVerberne 3 жыл бұрын
As a non-religious person, I'm always puzzled by the divisions that religious affiliation of beliefs can cause. It seems so bizarre to me - to divide each other up based on which particular version of 'faith' is right. Of course, it's not always about beliefs, it's clearly (at least in history described this way) deeply entwined with politics, power, representation, etc.
@Steampunksaly
@Steampunksaly 2 жыл бұрын
Sectarianism bigotry and racism are the three great evils of our time. All based on finding an excuse to hate
@deise69
@deise69 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about religion. The reason it has been framed as such is because Ireland was a majority Catholic country and the invaders were mainly Protestant British. This is why penal laws against Catholics were put in place to keep the native population down.
@Maul505
@Maul505 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about religion as much as it's about the brits oppressing the irish
@oldedwardian1778
@oldedwardian1778 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maul505 Ah yes let’s blame the English, it always comes down to that.
@Maul505
@Maul505 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldedwardian1778 Yes it always does come down to it because it's the truth that the English went around colonizing 25% of the fucking planet.
@davidtrask4099
@davidtrask4099 3 жыл бұрын
The oft repeated view that Henry VIII established the "Church of England" is not true. Henry considered himself to be a Catholic. The C of E was not established until 1559 by an act of parliament during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I who followed the Catholic Queen Mary I ("Bloody Mary").
@bobmcbob6901
@bobmcbob6901 6 жыл бұрын
Love our Irish brothers from Scotland.
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 5 жыл бұрын
I guess scottland is good
@patricka1475
@patricka1475 5 жыл бұрын
Anglia Alba what
@galaxyred7
@galaxyred7 5 жыл бұрын
Scotland and Ireland are friends in my head.
@DisconnectedRoamer
@DisconnectedRoamer 4 жыл бұрын
Love to Scotland and Northern Ireland 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@Craig-gq4gb
@Craig-gq4gb 4 жыл бұрын
Disconnected Roamer What about the 3.5 million Scots that want nothing to with the Union and Loyalists?
@stephenarcher8929
@stephenarcher8929 4 жыл бұрын
So pretty straightforward really.
@nesirosern8596
@nesirosern8596 Жыл бұрын
"Occupied", "annexed", "colonised", "conquered", "stolen" are all much better words, but sure I guess "split" works too
@matei-gabrielshelby3480
@matei-gabrielshelby3480 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't even give Michael Collins a common solidarity and speak his name out loud, let alone mention that he was assassinated, but spoke so poised and with neutral grace about De Valera?
@anthonytaylor9232
@anthonytaylor9232 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative but would have appreciated it much more had your delivery been at a slower pace, what was the rush about?
@Agiven32
@Agiven32 5 жыл бұрын
He’s a Scottish man It’s the way they speak U get used 2 it
@veovis523
@veovis523 3 жыл бұрын
Ireland didn't split. Ireland WAS split by the British.
@geekyradical4985
@geekyradical4985 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the majority of folks in Northern Ireland were unionists who saw themselves as British. They had a right to self-determination just as much as proponents of Irish independence.
@nobrang5146
@nobrang5146 3 жыл бұрын
So it did split. Doesn't make a difference, you just sound brainless
@user-qi5jw2hg1c
@user-qi5jw2hg1c 3 жыл бұрын
@@geekyradical4985 Bull. So are you telling me if Essex for example wanted to stay in the EU and the rest of England wanted to leave, this would justify partition of England? Don't be foolish
@nobrang5146
@nobrang5146 3 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Sky blue 87 Northern Ireland isn't English and didn't want to be English, they wanted to be British
@DTGMRuns
@DTGMRuns 3 жыл бұрын
Here we are again, with Irish catholic’s acting like the only country on earth that we ever invaded.
@elpatoyque5939
@elpatoyque5939 Жыл бұрын
Why am I just getting this video in my recommendation 7 YEARS LATER?!?!
@kevinc1218
@kevinc1218 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a TLDR version of this?
@GibbonsTalksBoxing
@GibbonsTalksBoxing 4 жыл бұрын
A good brief introduction to the division of Ireland.
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 4 жыл бұрын
indeed
@189Blake
@189Blake 3 жыл бұрын
Well, with what's happening right now, it seems like the "Peace walls" will remain way after 2023.
@DankReaper420
@DankReaper420 3 жыл бұрын
Peace walls lol sounds so Orwellian.
@irrationalreasoning6368
@irrationalreasoning6368 3 жыл бұрын
Belfast is essentially just a mini Berlin separated on the basis of religion instead of economic ideology.
@TangoNevada
@TangoNevada 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like calling a Bomb Crater in Iraq a Freedom Hole.
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 2 жыл бұрын
@@irrationalreasoning6368 as someone who actually lives in the north, the conflict is not because of religion at all, i know protestants who consider themselves irish and even one of the founders of the inla, was ronnie bunting who was a protestant. The conflict here is about politics and nationality and with the way things are going these peace walls don’t separate religion, they separate 2 people of different political ideologies
@irrationalreasoning6368
@irrationalreasoning6368 2 жыл бұрын
@@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 political ideologies that have their roots in religious segregation and sectarianism.
@maxyi2672
@maxyi2672 3 жыл бұрын
What accent is this? So cool!!
@markmurphy3462
@markmurphy3462 2 жыл бұрын
'but these laws were largely ineffective' - despite the fact that the banning of our language and burning of our books resulted in the near death of our tongue.
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