Wood Burning Inserts for an existing fireplace (What are the best inserts?)

[@thisiskeverything]

this video was so dang helpful. I went from knowing nothing at all to feeling totally confident that I can now select the right one for our home. I thank you so very much.

[@embersliving]

Nice!

[@cfreezy45]

This video is very helpful. I'm in the market for something to help reduce my propane usage because it's so dang expensive to heat my 2 story house. I've got a large open hearth fireplace that just is useless as it is. Barely heats the living room. Before watching this i was set thinking i wanted a catalytic insert but you stressing how it really doesn't matter seems to help ease my mind and realize i can focus on price and aesthetic details more than what type of secondary combustion it's using. My wife was saying she wants one with a ledge she can put a kettle on.

[@sleepii15]

Man thank you so much; I know I’m 3 years late, but man thank you thank you thank you!❤

[@embersliving]

No problem glad to help!

[@TheGrkBoy]

LOVEEEEE THIS FIRE PLACE!!!!! We get endless compliments on it!!! SO many colors, no weird ticking sounds, and different speeds. Absolutely love it!

[@mikej7414]

The more videos the better us woodburning people appreciate these video

[@embersliving]

good to know

[@danawd]

I cannot explain how much i like your videos!!! Thank you so much for all that information. It’s helping me a lot! 👌

[@embersliving]

thanks for watching!

[@MarcCardwell]

At 6;43, you talk about a catalytic combuster and a video link. I don’t see that, did you do one?

[@embersliving]

We have a full length video revurn for catalytic here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqfGhnaKn6ymerc

[@ericwiltz6584]

Very helpful! I'm in TX and will likely be calling! Thank you for such a nice clear and concise presentation.

[@ericwiltz6584]

I find they don't have any interest in working period. No return calls etc.. I'm waiting on a young man to do a wood stove chimney in my garage, still waiting. Our fireplace eats a 30" logs 3-4 at a time and up in smoke, feed it again in a few hours. I've got cancer and no way is the wife going to keep up with it, thus the insert. what part of tx? . @@Test_1-2-3-i1h

[@coachtim6188]

Just bought an old farm house where the previous owner converted the fireplace to a gas fireplace. It doesn't do much for our house. This is amazing info. I think I just learned more about wood heater inserts than I ever knew. Now to figure out which one will heat our whole house. Thank you for the information!!

[@embersliving]

thanks for watching!

[@chiomae3689]

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[@DaDaDanceProject]

Do you need an electric outlet for the fan? Is there any rating for such an outlet since behind the insert I imagine it would be hot.

[@beebob1279]

At my mountain house I have an arch opening to the fireplace. It's quite large and I'm concerned about the surround piece covering it correctly. It is a masonry fireplace but has a metal 'heatilator' insert. You mentioned the metal boxes aren't good for inserts. Suggestions? Also, are you going to carry any rocket heaters (certified UL)? P.S. My primary home has an Osburn 2400 in the masonry fireplace. What a great stove. It was installed about 20 years ago, give or take a few years. It's the stove that sticks out from the face of the fireplace. Fantastic stove. One thing to remember about the inserts that could cause an issue. If you have a hearth that is just enough for the fireplace then put in the flush insert. If not you have to add a fireproof piece in front of it. There is a clearance needed to combustables such as the floor. This is the issue with the mountain house. I'll need a flush mount.

[@embersliving]

hmm I think it would be best to have a local company inspect it

[@shovelhead3507]

@@embersliving can I put an insert in my heatilator?

[@shovelhead3507]

I have a masonry fireplace...front,sides.. it protrudes outside of the house. It's about 8' wide and sticks out the back of the house 3'...there is nothing wrong with my heatilator, my fans blow heated air into the room...I just need something more efficient. I burn 2-3 times more wood than my friend with an insert...thanks

[@steviesevieria1868]

@@shovelhead3507 looks like if a sale isn’t imminent, then an answer is slow.

[@jeffjohnson2792]

When you say old fireplace, I wish you would distinguish between masonry and firebox. Can an insert be added to a non-masonry fireplace?

[@embersliving]

No you will need a normal fireplace. A gas insert fits into an old brick chimney

[@simmonds6063]

Do all blowers have to be plugged in, or are there any that have fans that run on heat?

[@embersliving]

usally theyre in the fireplace. I've seen people put fans by the insert.

[@blondeboywilson9221]

are the metal panels framing the unit a must to install (Which would hide my historic mosaic fireplace mantel) or can we go with the unit without the collar panels

[@embersliving]

They come with different options depending on the unit

[@caraphillips8534]

What if you have original tile work that you don't want to cover with a faceplate? Do they make inserts that don't cover any of the outside of the fireplace?

[@embersliving]

Most of these have different trim options. You should watch our newest top 5 inserts video here and you can see some different thinner trims. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKGbhKOria1-erM

[@JeanneKinland]

You mentioned that these inserts are typically intended for masonry fireplaces. We have a prefabricated fireplace with a small box. What do you recommend in our case? We have apprx. 1600 sq. ft. to heat. Our chimney is made of steel and we have a good 2-3 ft. dead air space all around the chimney.

[@embersliving]

I would do a gas insert

[@JeanneKinland]

@@embersliving We don't have gas on our property and everybody is complaining about gas prices going up. We have a huge wood lot and plenty of wood so that's why we're planning on wood.

[@nathalie703]

@@embersliving will you please elaborate? Im in a similar situation. Warped fire box from previous owners having bonfires inside. I have gas available but would prefer wood burning.

[@steviesevieria1868]

@@JeanneKinland hmmm, not very responsive, it seems

[@taemian]

At 7:25 you talk about the damper. Are all your wood burning inserts airtight, or are they supposed to be if you have the door and damper closed? Thanks!

[@embersliving]

yes they all are

[@426superbee4]

I like them to stick out. Means more heat into the room. I think a plus would be able to cook on it. That one reason i'am looking for a wood burning kitchen stove. summer time i can use electric

[@embersliving]

Nice! It's always good to have options!

[@426superbee4]

@@embersliving Yes sir

[@tacitus7]

I looking to have my Dad install a Lopi. Any thoughts on its quality?

[@embersliving]

Not sure about that one

[@tacitus7]

@@embersliving Here they are.

[@narutosasuke8580]

Can a wood fireplace insert be used with a chaste? I know gas fireplace inserts cant.

[@embersliving]

Is this an install question? You will have to call the store or call a local installer.

[@thomaseng6514]

Thanks. This was super helpful!

[@embersliving]

No problem!

[@juandiaz-mo8qd]

Can you use a wood burning insert for outdoors?

[@embersliving]

Please call the store

[@miketourangeau6400]

Great video......We have an old fireplace that the chimney has been roofed over (outside wall) Do we need to rebuild a brick chimney off the roof or can we have a stainless steel "chimney"?

[@embersliving]

you would need to rebuild it with this product

[@nataliarosenbaum6707]

What do you think of the Hearthstone Clydesdale? I have tons of windows but a small home 1,300 square feet. Not alot fits into my space but since it comes out into the room that one would fit.

[@embersliving]

that is very nice

[@johnoceanyang5522]

U seem experience about wood burning insert fireplace, how or what does the fireplace heat up the room or where does the heat came from the heater

[@embersliving]

radiantly through the glass normally

[@johnoceanyang5522]

Embers Fireplaces & Outdoor Living 🤔

[@_Moto215]

Great video and great info. I would have liked to hear more about the blower performance on these. Our current insert blower is fairly noisy but it’s an older unit. Have the blowers improved in that regard over the last decade or so?

[@embersliving]

they have actually, they are a lot more quite now

[@redoak3809]

Would it be better to put a woodburning stove on a pedestal out in the room and run it out through the back into the drafty metal firebox fireplace or try to install an insert?

[@embersliving]

for efficiency? I dont think it would make too much of a difference

[@fantonio234]

0:57 seconds in and he told me I’m looking for the wrong thing. Awesome video

[@embersliving]

ok

[@fantonio234]

@@embersliving I meant it as a good thing, I thought I could just buy an insert and cut a hole in the wall and I was done.

[@dontworry1568]

i dont want to install an outlet in my fireplace. Will I still get good heat without a blower?

[@embersliving]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4iYZ6mJZ7x-e9U Depends on what fireplace you get. It depends a lot on the glass used.

[@marynawhitmore1622]

I bought a house that has a fireplace, and before I got it I guess that there was a wood stove insert. I am wondering if now I need to buy another or if I could use it like a traditional fireplace if I got a woodstand and a cover?

[@embersliving]

what do you mean exactly?

[@oregonbowguy1979]

EPA 2020 New Source Performance Standards have no efficiency requirements. The EPA currently only regulates emissions. Nice Video.

[@embersliving]

thanks

[@Aunteakeys]

So informative. Thank you for explaining this.

[@embersliving]

thanks for watching!

[@philcoinflip923]

This was very helpful, thanks.

[@embersliving]

thanks for watching!

[@happytimes8037]

can you remove an existing natural gas fireplace and insert a woodburning fire insert

[@embersliving]

Yes you can.

[@michelleosborne1431]

So these wouldn't work for an intertherm fireplace?

[@embersliving]

what do you mean

[@michelleosborne1431]

@@embersliving our home is a modular home so it's not a traditional fireplace with masonry brick. Of course we still use it but don't like our heat going up the chimney. Is there a woodstove insert that would work with one of these?

[@capitalpoint4618]

Do they make a firebox wood insert that is 1.20 M2 X. 70M2 ?

[@momoe7267]

What brand wood burning insert would you recommend with heat dump? Keep up with the great videos!

[@embersliving]

what do you mean by heat pump

[@Frankiarmz]

Excellent video! I was not aware how advanced these had become!

[@embersliving]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Frankiarmz]

@@embersliving yes , very helpful ! I have been wanting one for thirty years , but money was always going for other things like classes for the girls when they were younger and then college. I think now with heating oil prices skyrocketing, I can convince my wife to invest .

[@samohtecirp]

does the door have to remain closed while in use? can you still hear the wood crackling?

[@embersliving]

it does for efficiency yes. Also you can still hear it

[@lynne4406]

Oh my, as I wrote on another video, we need an insert. But I heard you say something about a metal box firebox. We have a metal firebox. The damper is gone, rusted out and I use the handle to stir the wood when burning now. It has brick and cement block around the metal box. Is it possible to buy an insert? Would we have to take out the metal sides and back to the box? The floor is brick.

[@embersliving]

I would not recommend it

[@lynne4406]

@@embersliving Okay, I've been reading many older posts on how to go about this. What we have is a Heatform fireplace. The guy who came to offer me a bid on my old homes roof also does fireplace inserts. (We are waiting on roof as it would have to be stripped down to original 1878 wood and built up ...etc. He said we have time. Ugh! ) Anyway, he also said the metal firebox surround was in decent shape except for the top flue which was rusted out. Came apart actually and he suggested an insert. It's not terribly big 36"wide by 24" high... First we must get a good clean out by a chimney sweep person. Do you have any ideas on a good insert. I understand there remains a tax rebate till the end of this year. Don't think we should wait until later too.

[@bigboss1053]

Will a matrix 2700 heat a 2600sq ft 1 level house? If not what would you prefer?

[@embersliving]

it will be close in size, how big is your opening?

[@bigboss1053]

@@embersliving roughly 44 inch wide x 32 inch high 25 inch deep

[@amythai2647]

Is there any way to convert an old triple wall pipe (old wood burner) into an updated insert (type) option Goal is to have a wood burner set back into alcove so it’s not unsightly

[@embersliving]

not really

[@robinjopo9352]

I've seen heat activated fans, do any inserts have these or do I have to hire an electrician for the blowers?

[@embersliving]

no they are

[@Rojo1044]

How about some details on why you don't recommend inserts for a metal firebox with vents. I have one, and I am looking for an insert.

[@embersliving]

they are too hard to clean with an insert inside them, and eventually present a fire hazard

[@ChicagoSteve69]

What you don’t talk about is the installation process, what’s needed to make the inserts work. I currently don’t have any electrical power in my wood burning fireplace. Is a insert possible?

[@embersliving]

yes it is without power

[@jongriffin2125]

Trevor is it possible to remove a gas insert and replace with a wood burning insert? Our home is 10 years old and came with a gas fireplace.

[@embersliving]

what is the original fireplace. A brick fireplace?

[@blujeans9462]

Do you have a video on what you can do with a zero clearance fireplace to allow for actual heating of the home, as opposed to just ambiance? Thanks!

[@embersliving]

we would go gas in a zero clearance

[@steventipton5130]

great video

[@embersliving]

Thanks for watching!

[@TheToonamiRevolution]

What are the options for venting these out if the chimney has been removed below a roof line (During a new roof install). The fireplace had never been used so it was removed but the fireplace is still there. Are there ways to vent without the chimney or would it have to be rebuilt?

[@embersliving]

hmm it would have to be rebuilt

[@tylerbhumphries]

Hi, I have quick question. I’m new to wood burning fireplaces and I’m currently renovating a historic 1899 Victorian 2,000 sq ft house in St. Louis, Mo. The original fireplaces in the house were coal burning but were bricked up. I’m reopening the living room fireplace for aesthetic and heating purposes. I’m also going to get the chimney serviced. Would a wood burning insert be a good idea for my situation?

[@embersliving]

Not a bad idea

[@tylerbhumphries]

@@embersliving thank you

[@danorion369]

do most of these inserts have a kit to install an outside/direct air vent? Also, do you recommend installing that kit so there's absolutely no air from inside the house is being used?

[@embersliving]

it depends on the models, some do but not all. It is beneficial for sure

[@steviesevieria1868]

Dan ….great question, combustible air is a necessity, not having it would be a deal killer.

[@brentyancich]

Thank you. Very informative

[@embersliving]

thanks!

[@ctscantechnologist]

Wish you guys had a store in the dfw area. The stores lack financing and to some level, service.

[@embersliving]

bummer

[@batgirlte9953]

SO WHAT WOULD YOU RECCOMEND FOR REPLACING AN OLD METAL BOX FIREPLACE? WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME MORE EFFICIENT HEATING.

[@embersliving]

are you taking out the old box?

[@me2zzfyi]

I have this same set up but would not want to remove our box. It is gas log or wood 8 inch round damper but no doors solid real rock wall in front. 1800 sq. Ft. To heat. Am I looking at a box in a box application? Zero clearance? 1999 built ranch home.

[@thomasd.kearns1468]

What is more efficient and better: gas or wood fireplace insert? I don’t need whole house heating.

[@embersliving]

great question! I just wrapped a video discussing the pros and cons of wood vs, gas and it should be posting in a few weeks

[@barbour121]

Can you use the insert to convert a gas burning fp to wood burning?

[@embersliving]

no you cannot

[@Theevilporkchop]

So you cannot put an insert into an existing fireplace that is a steel insert? Can't get the tubing to run down the existing chimney like you would with a brick chimney?

[@embersliving]

yes that is exactly it

[@soundofsilence21]

We have a 3000 sq ft home with an old wood burning fireplace in the middle of the house. The metal liner is rusted and cracked, so we are not currently using the fireplace. We love the idea of a wood burning insert, but I'm a little concerned about how this kind of unit would distribute heat to the areas of the house that are furthest from the fireplace. Is this a valid concern, or have you seen these units distribute heat efficiently throughout the house?

[@embersliving]

all fireplaces are designed to zone heat so they for sure heat the space they are in the most, but usually works out great cause most people prefer the bedrooms a few degrees colder

[@TRguy64]

Our place is 1850 sq ft., we have bitterly cold winters, our older insert isn't of the highest capacity, though the heat slowly fills the entire house if the doors to the bedrooms are left open and there's NO cold zones! The heat radiates and is absorbed by all objects for that really cozy feeling that you just don't get from a forced air furnace!

[@1ltcap]

i wish you were closer. i need to upgrade. i've got a napoleon 1402, and i can't for the life of me get more than 4 or 5 hours out of it. i've been looking around and it seems that blaze king has 12+ hour burn times? my home is only around 1,000sqft

[@embersliving]

how old is your 1402

[@1ltcap]

@@embersliving right around 5 years. even when i first got it i couldn't get good burn times.....i figured it was a combination of it being new needing break in, the wood, and the loose nut behind the controls(me)......

[@me2zzfyi]

I have a metal brick lined box fireplace no doors gas log but can be wood we want more efficient. I don’t want to remove that box. It is gas log or wood 8 or 6 inch round damper solid real rock wall in front. 1800 sq. Ft. To heat. Am I looking at doing a box in a box application? Zero clearance? 1999 built ranch home.

[@me2zzfyi]

It’s a heatilator EC36 1997 model. Here’s some I’m sure bad news listed on it. Compliance period: Jan. 1, 1997 to Jan. 1, 2002 😳😭

[@embersliving]

haha, you are wanting to do a wood insert or a gas?

[@me2zzfyi]

Wood insert. I know now I’ll have to take rock off take out old insert then have it rebuilt for wood insert. Never easy. If you want it done right. That or add outdoor wood stove to house. 🥺

[@kevinpowers675]

Review on montlake 300?

[@embersliving]

its coming up in our new top 5 video posting this week!

[@susana5052]

Very informative video. Subbed! I will be watching more of your videos.👍

[@embersliving]

Welcome aboard!

[@xthexadvantagex]

Where was the link for the explanation of catalytic

[@embersliving]

if you browse our channel you can see the video there

[@80neptune]

Great video! Very helpful. Thanks!

[@embersliving]

Glad it was helpful!

[@EVDan532]

My fireplace has a metal open-faced box in it with a metal angled top to the flue. Can't all that be removed & replaced with an insert? Really like your videos!

[@embersliving]

if you remove everything you would want to start with a new wood fireplace not an insert at that point

[@Ritterkritterz]

Are you aware if any wood inserts that are 2 door? Looking to heat 1000 sq ft. Thanks!

[@embersliving]

Not that I know of

[@colleenthomas353]

We have a "Little Buck" insert and it has 2 doors-It was made in the 80s but they MAY still make them?

[@glenparks5175]

My dad had a buck that thing heated really well double door

[@andreiklimov6044]

Wood stove insert is it for looks or is it real can heat the home?

[@embersliving]

it is a big heater

[@susana5052]

Will an insert work on a fireplace that is gas and wood burning? *1200 st ft home and just looking to heat living and dining room areas. Apx 500 sq ft

[@embersliving]

yes we have a new video coming out on this,

[@mayankupadhyay6058]

I have a rock fireplace can it be modified?

[@embersliving]

probably not

[@mrjimenez64]

How do you determine if you need fresh air supply?

[@embersliving]

its required in mobile homes, otherwise its just a benefit

[@rennpart]

I have a house built in 1774 and went on Facebook marketplace and bought a built in made in the 90s. I installed a 8 inch insulated stainless pipe (fun times!!). This unit has a blower and my fireplace is huge, I am so disappointed with its performance despite the manual claiming over 70% efficiency and 45k BTU. I will be giving you guys a call because I’m tired of burning 50 gallons of propane a week.

[@embersliving]

nice!

[@ohbora84]

If I want to burn all night (overnight), should I get catalytic insert?

[@embersliving]

either one will work

[@ohbora84]

@@embersliving I am thinking regency ci2700 or napoleon s25i. Can you suggest which one will be better ? I know napoleon is not catalytic and regency is hybrid that has both. I never saw the napoleon in person, but regency looked too small inside to put a lot of woods to burn overnight. Or it doesn’t need to fill it up full?

[@boedillard8807]

Do you sell efficient wood fireplaces for new construction?

[@embersliving]

Yes

[@embersliving]

So we have some inserts in this video that might work kzbin.info/www/bejne/epeQpImDYs2rqKc

[@candacefowers7348]

Can you cook on a fireplace insert?

[@embersliving]

some but its tough to do

[@angeloruiz4211]

Can these be inserts for a gas fireplace?

[@embersliving]

no wood only

[@ncooty]

Thanks. Minor nit to pick, since it's your profession: "masonary" and "heighth" are not words.

[@embersliving]

true

[@loribernardisunwell9663]

I hate to be nitpicky but Websters does in fact recognize Heighth as a Noun and dialectal variant of height. You're correct on Masonary. Js.

[@loribernardisunwell9663]

​@@emberslivingheighth is fine, masonary not so much 😉

[@ncooty]

@loribernardisunwell9663 Indeed, Webster's will tell you themselves that they record dialects. In that sense, "iffin" is a word. People defer to any source that agrees with them. Say "heighth" all you like. After all, what is diction but the Brownian motion of blathering mouths?

[@spearonehard]

Great info. Thank you

[@embersliving]

Glad it was helpful!

[@LamLawIndy]

I'd say that "style" is the Most important feature: #HappyWifeHappyLife

[@embersliving]

very true

[@beverlycaselman5234]

I have a traditional rock fireplace. When I had it built I was able to find a unit that was a wood rack held by 2 inch square tubing. The thermostat was inside the tubing and connected to a covered box with a 100cfm blower. Everything set inside the fireplace except the blower vent which the face cover sat on, so the heat blows directly in the room. It works wonderful and still does. I purchased it in 1998 and installed it myself. The tubing is begining to crack slightly so I have been searching for another unit just like it. I have not been able to find it again. Do you have any resource that could find this type of unit?. It works wonderful!

[@embersliving]

hmm those are pretty much obsolete

[@treemanchris]

Very helpful

[@embersliving]

Glad you think so!

[@pambennett8967]

Why don't they have one that doubles as a cook stove?

[@embersliving]

they are not EPA

[@tomhill1001]

If you get an insert raging hot will it still heat a decent size area without the blower?

[@embersliving]

yes

[@thegrimmer]

2:45 It's not heighth

[@embersliving]

Thanks for watching

[@jakesarms8996]

Wow ! You just described us . We're 3000ft2 on propane. I'd put a small led tv in that firebox before I'd install an electric unit.

[@embersliving]

cool

[@crazyoldbroad4871]

Just purchased the Montpelier II in black. Looking forward to using it. Unfortunately we already need warranty work on it. Some of the screws were broken off at the factory. They're giving us a new front door.

[@embersliving]

oh bummer

[@tomtripptree5079]

How do you like the stove today Does it heat your house well and can you tell me how mant sq ft you have

[@thegofastkid806]

I have a Vermont castings Montpellier.. longest burn you’re going to get on that insert is like 3-4 hours tops... no such thing as an “overnight” burn.. EPA ruined these, I can’t choke the fire down it’s wide open roaring 100% of the time

[@embersliving]

what kind of wood are you using?

[@axeleither9991]

Yes I have the regency catalytic and coals every morning never have to restart new fire all winter, so nice!!

[@badmatt4227]

0:04 “Today I am going to be teaching you.” That is an arrogant thing to say to an audience. 6:58 “What I try to educate consumers” this is the type of language to use to bring in customers.

[@embersliving]

Thanks for the input!

[@gerardosiliceo7239]

I want the regency CI2700 but I saw a review about, when you open the door the smoke come out and you get the smoke in the room

[@embersliving]

that can happen on any model, if you dont have a good draft going.

[@mikej7414]

Try and open the door slowly to reduce the smoke coming in your house

[@axeleither9991]

Once the fire burns down to coals no smoke comes out, but if your adding wood without it burnt down crack the door open just enough to poke the fire around with the poker then the draft will work better to fully open door

[@scotthoughton7245]

Once again Pacific Energy is the very best. Don't understand why more wood stove retailers etc don't include this company in their evaluations of product.

[@embersliving]

they won't let us

[@ytsoc]

6/1/23. This is so wierd ... I just looked at this comment < 5 minutes ago and found a response to this comment ~ ' because they won't let us' .... and now when I come back here, the comment is gone??? Am I halucinating? I bring this up because I'm looking at a PE but see lots of bad customer support comments..... Thoughts?? Don't see any PE products here....

[@bobkucharski9425]

FYI, it's masonry, not masonary.

[@embersliving]

ok

[@lastdon6585]

I’m not sure if you’re aware, but your countertops out back are on fire. I hope I’m not too late!

[@embersliving]

haha

[@LRhiannon1]

This must cost a fortune

[@embersliving]

Not too bad

[@juke925]

Someone told me to look into a fireplace insert. I didn't even know what that was. I don't understand. These look like microwaves. I don't want a microwave in my fireplace.

[@embersliving]

haha

[@cece3194]

Size matters

[@embersliving]

ha

[@bphuettner]

Heighth is not a word. Height is.

[@embersliving]

ok

[@cece3194]

Napolean s20

[@embersliving]

thats a nice one

[@diefirstthenquit6802]

This guy is selling you ass. Buy yourself a Lopi, fireplace X, Travis industries product and thank me later. Get it installed professionally.

[@embersliving]

ok

[@michaelbluejay]

Downvoted for asking for Like & Subscribe before saying anything useful. It's like asking me to review a movie before I've even seen it, or a waiter expecting a tip before even taking the order.

[@embersliving]

Ok thanks for watching!

[@LincolnSP150]

You being in the business should know better. The proper word is MASONRY, .... Not MASONARY.

[@embersliving]

thanks for the lesson