How to Fix Chipbreaker Clog on a Hand Plane Iron | Woodworking tip

[@ziprock]

Just picked up a cheap hand plane. Sharpened the iron. Took one beautiful shaving then jammed up. I'm glad there are people like yourself sharing tips and making it easier for people like myself to get into using these tools.

[@WoodByWright]

Glad I could help.

[@brianatbtacprod1989]

I think this is something lots of channels overlook when they do plane setups or restorations. I have a plane that for the life of me I could not get to work, and the chips jamming was the problem. I started searching on cap iron clogging, and came on this older video of yours. The cap iron on my plane is actually flat on the front, it is rounded, but there is about a mm of flat on the face. I also learned from another channel, that the cap iron should be a bit bowed, so the screw actually pulls it slightly down when it's tightened. Keep up the good work,but also remember that sometimes you have to show starting with a new inexpensive tool, that may need more effort to get it working than a vintage tool, that isn't in good condition but has many things like the blunt edge on the chip breaker already removed, or the cap iron not bent slightly.

[@mypony891]

Thank you for having one which was twisted too! You just saved this 100 year old plane from the trash!

[@alphaandomegaministry2718]

Thanks for this. Tuned up a new Stanley no5 jack plane dumped in recycling. Nothing worked well. Came from factory like this. Causes huge frustration to unfortunate buyers who occasionally bin them out of sheer desperation! Tackling a plane like this is a joy to see it now cutting and operating how it should do on leaving the factory. Tip. I use a magnifier to check no gaps anywhere. Check particularly the extreme ends left and right.

[@captaincoyote1792]

All my planes are older tools, bought from flea markets, second hand stores, etc., and most of them were pretty rough. Even as a novice, I have brought most of them back to usable condition, all of them look and perform “acceptably well”, but not a one to “perfection”. That’s is, none shave that nicely….and now, thanks to you sir, I think I now know why! Gotta love KZbin! BTW, where did all your tools go? Your wall behind you is naked! Anyway, Bravo-Zulu, we’ll done, on another exceptional tutorial! Thank you, brother!

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks. This is an old video from when I was moving the shop around and hadn't had it all set up yet.

[@lincolndickerson1293]

So this last weekend I had the same bent chip breaker issue. I will use the hit it with a mallet process when I get back in the shop. I did the other steps and still had that slight line of light. Wow how much the shop has changed in 5 years!

[@tomalesbay]

Very helpful. I've recently crossed a threshold with my journey with planing, producing thin shavings with a no. 5, type 20. Took me a lot of practice, sole flattening, sharpening, etc., it's been quite the learning the curve but very happy to be getting nice results now. I do have this one problem with clogging and only just the other day I noticed the gap between the chipbreaker and the iron, on one end but also along the edge. Then I came across this video. Pretty sure this is going to help me. Thank you for posting this!

[@blairkorchinski627]

I've been having this exact problem. You've saved my neighbour's child from learning an inappropriate vocabulary.

[@WoodByWright]

LOL glad I could help!

[@jtscustomcutlery317]

Luckily my neighbors don’t have small children 😂

[@dfu1685]

Thank you thank you James! Very helpful on where even to start. You are a valuable asset in the KZbin community. Your hard work is appreciated by many.

[@stillkickin3919]

Exactly the problem I was having. Followed your procedure and now the problem, like my ex, went away. Thank you! p. s. I also subscribed...

[@mbgoldberg]

Oldie but goodie. It was my chip breaker which had a slight gap, bad angle. Couldn't believe what a difference it made. Thanks!

[@WoodByWright]

Sweet. I love it when a good tool starts working the way it should.

[@aaronspain3387]

I've watched a few videos on fixing the chip breaker over the years, but yours was the only one that mentioned grinding a flat bevel on to the top/front of the chip breaker. Thanks for the tip!

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks. My pleasure?

[@jamesharris5156]

My brand new Stanley #5, the transition of the chip breaker had a blunt lip about 3/32” tall….. took it out and it runs sooo much better! Thank you so much!

[@carlinglis7705]

2 and a half years after you posted it and it's helped me too - thanks!

[@WoodByWright]

thanks Carl. glad i could help!

[@richardhyman6981]

Thank you for making this. I’m finally trying to learn to use my handplanes and I’m trying not to get discouraged and eliminate one issue at a time so that I can learn where it’s the tool and where the problem is me. Really helpful video in that process!

[@WoodByWright]

Nice! I like it. if you ever have questions feel free to ask any time.

[@Victoria-jo3wr]

Thank you for making this video! This is one of the MANY problems I have been having with my plane. As a beginner, I can never tell if it's me, the wood, or the plane. I'm starting to really hate the thing, but I don't want to give up yet.

[@WoodByWright]

that is so much fun to figure out. unfortunately experience is a tough teacher!

[@ratansharma951]

I am not a wood worker, nor have any plans to be one. But this is a downright honest comment. Honesty is a million times above carpentry. The more mistakes we make , the more we learn. Also Life teaches us what we were made for. Sometimes giving up one thing, takes us into another field which we may like more! 'To each his own.'

[@sussexseaangler1858]

Interesting video! I did this to my Jackplane 40 YEARS AGO. Never repeated the operation since. You only need to do it once!

[@WoodByWright]

Right on. As long as you don't accidentally break something or been something it works great.

[@marknewton7081]

Thanks a lot. Now I know why I was struggling to get quality shavings with my #6 foreplane. I'll be correcting the chipbreaker this afternoon.

[@jean-marclabonte2844]

Greetings from the Great White North. Thank you very much for posting this solution. I have one large jointing plane which has this exact problem. The chip breaker is rounded, curved and has a large gap in the centre and I wasn't sure how to fix it, without making it worse. Now, thanks to you I have some specific steps I can follow to resolve this frustrating issue. I appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. Take care and keep up the good work.

[@WoodByWright]

thanks! if you have further questions feel free to ask anytime.

[@Sprengerfamily]

Awesome. Glad I watched this. I have this problem and my inexperience has left me thinking this was just a bad plane. Can't wait to get home and try this out.

[@WoodByWright]

+gobblesmac it is amazing what a good fitting chipbreaker can do.

[@Doc_Fartens]

You are a lifesaver, James. Well not quite my life, but you have saved my sanity by demonstrating this. Thank you.

[@WoodByWright]

+Ryan thanks Ryan. My pleasure.

[@christ9359]

Thanks for this video, James. For seemingly every problem I run into, you have a "fix-it" video. I can't thank you enough.

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks Chris. I aim to please!

[@aarondsalberg]

I appreciate your attention to detail. I’ve got work to do.

[@osvaldocristo]

Thank you, sir. It was exactly what I was looking for! Well done.

[@WoodByWright]

My pleasure! glad I could help!

[@terrywhitworth5350]

Really helpful video, I will check my planes immediately. I’ve been having this issue with my Stanley No 5, thank you for the information.

[@WoodByWright]

+Terry Whitworth thanks Terry. Good luck man. It is so nice when the plane is tuned up.

[@Mitchfork]

Had this exact problem with an antique Stanley No. 4, just wasn't able to cut at all. Spent some time really making sure that the chipbreaker lined up using this video and now I'm getting beautiful curls out of a 120 year old tool. Great tips!

[@WoodByWright]

Sweet. Love seeing a tool do what it was mentioned to do.

[@sethmariscal3428]

I new it had to be something like this! I've been struggling to figure out exactly what I need to modify and this should set it right. Thanks

[@frbrable]

This helped a lot! Thanks for giving me the confidence to give my twisted chip breaker a whack. Between that, and a really good sharpening of my blade, I'm finally getting fine shavings and my plane is working as it's supposed to. I might tune up the chip breaker a little bit more using some of these techniques. Thanks!

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks. Glad I could help.

[@tropifiori]

This is helpful. I have had this problem with a couple of planes. Now I know how to correct the problem.ThanksFrank

[@WoodByWright]

Glad I could help Frank. thanks!

[@Thom4123]

Awesome information that you might not think of being a problem or even looking at the chip breaker causing a problem. Thank You so much for all your help and information.

[@WoodByWright]

thanks Thom! so true!

[@ronniesolomon5235]

Dude........THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now i have a better idea what’s going on with my planes.....

[@WoodByWright]

Glad I could help.

[@CCottonify]

Really useful. I’ve been getting shavings caught under the chip breaker for years, I thought I wasn’t setting the position of the chip breaker correctly but this seems to have fixed it (on a cheap Faithful No 7 plane). Once I’d seen what you’re doing it seemed really obvious. Thanks

[@josephlaviolette146]

Another good no nonsense video James! Next time you sharpen your smoothing plane iron, put an 80 degree bevel on the cap iron (instead of the hump). Set it close and enjoy. The shavings won't curl. They shoot straight up (this further fights tearout too)

[@WoodByWright]

yup I have a whole video on that too, but I only do it for my smoothing plane.

[@kc9aop]

I needed this video! Like you I'm running into this with planes I've restored. I've been very careful about making any adjustment to the chip breaker but clearly it can be the best approach. Thanks for all of your content.

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks Jim. It is my pleasure.

[@garyprasad6354]

Thank you. Great tip for the tradies and newbies. God bless

[@_cb336]

Exactly the information I needed. Clearly and effectively passed along. Grateful. Thank you.

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks Clif. That means a lot!

[@_cb336]

@@WoodByWright And one hour later my #5 is back to being awesome. Cheers.

[@marcspade_pipes]

After buying a cheap hand plane from Harbor Freight, I have had a pivotal realization: I need to watch EVERY Wood By Wright tool video before doing ANYTHING else. Then refer back each individual as necessary. Thank you for this.

[@WoodByWright]

LOL thanks Mak. if you ever have a question just ask.

[@shauncherry7305]

Very helpful. My plane has this exact problem. Should be able to fix it now. Thanks.

[@blacktoothwoodworking6841]

Wow! I was literally having this problem this morning. I have a little more work to do on my chip breaker, and this really helped a ton! Thanks for the timely video!

[@WoodByWright]

+Black Tooth Woodworking my pleasure. Glad I could help!

[@cthobbies7931]

Fantastic, now I know where I was going wrong! I’ll be digging out the box of discarded old planes and hopefully getting some to work this afternoon.

[@WoodByWright]

Sweet! I love seeing planes come back to life!

[@ConfiscatedZyra]

you're a good man . always appreciate your uploads

[@HMABH]

THANK YOU!!!!!! its my first ever plane i bought/used and i figured it's the chipbreaker .. but i needed to make sure that it is the chipbreaker because i saw the gap but didn't know how i'd fix it .. now i need to sand it fine...

[@WoodByWright]

glad I could help!

[@HMABH]

@@WoodByWright you more than helped .. you saved me some cash as well because if i didn't know how to fix it, i would've given up .. i'm a little late to start woodworking .. i spent 5 or 6 years watching woodworking videos but never started anything because of the lack of tools and materials in where i live .. i just mustered the courage to purchase tools and some cheap wood but at first the hand plane didn't work.. so i watched a couple of videos, everyone said you should always sharpen it because the manufacturer never sells it sharp, so i did shapened it and it worked for about 4 passes and then it clogged.. no other youtuber/woodworker talked about the importance of fine tuning the chip breaker .. glad i found you ... SUBBED AND LIKED

[@HMABH]

@@WoodByWright i fixed it using this video !! it worked like a charm .. it planed well ... thanks again

[@BillyMcCord]

I was just wondering why this was happening the other day and I thought I need to write James Wright and ask him how to fix this! Great tip! Thanks!

[@WoodByWright]

+Billy McCord thanks Billy. Glad I could help.

[@alfredog2762]

Hello James, Thanks a ton!! you´ve made my day, great tip..I´m learning every day :) . Cheers from Uruguay. Alfredo

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks man! glad I could help!

[@luciw1632]

This is super helpful. Thanks. My number 4 does this and now I know how to fix it!

[@WoodByWright]

Glad I could help Bill.

[@giuseppedeepakbentihandtoo3809]

Thanks for the video James!! Very useful!!!! 🙂

[@roBLINDhood]

Great video James! You are such a great teacher!

[@WoodByWright]

+Ian Enderby thanks Ian my pleasure.

[@bobb.3023]

Thanks! Im just getting into woodworking and you have been a big help in many areas including this one.

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks. Bob. My pleasure.

[@bothann]

Fantastic tutorial, James. Never thought about twist in the chip breaker. Thanks!

[@WoodByWright]

thanks Johann. I never did either tell I found it one day. it was a head-scratcher for a few minutes. lol

[@gizmo7396]

This helped me so much! Thanks for this James. Keep up the good work.

[@WoodByWright]

My pleasure! thanks for being first today!

[@giorgiochiappini1931]

Thanks a lot from Italy!

[@roguemind]

Perfect, thanks. Excited to check out my plane this weekend. Never considered chips might be catching on the rounded over top side of the chip breaker.

[@WoodByWright]

That is not a common problem but it does happen. it is more comon that there is a gap and they go under it.

[@HillbillyBassets]

Thanks! I was in the shop an hour ago trying to figure out why my plane was clogging up. Then this video appeared on the suggested list.

[@WoodByWright]

nice. here to help!

[@DarwinHarmless]

I ran into this problem with the cheap Footprint plane I bought at Home Depot. I decided it was the fault of the cheap plane and bought a top of the line Stanley which I love. But now I'm motivated to see if I can tweak up the cheap plane. Thanks for this.

[@WoodByWright]

you can fix it up, but that plane has other issues and will not stay tuned.

[@DarwinHarmless]

I've been thinking of turning it into a scrub plane, as per your video. Will that work? i have the good Stanley now so I don't need it for smoothing work.

[@WoodByWright]

That is what I did with mine! works well for that!

[@DarwinHarmless]

Thanks. Big fan here. Really enjoy your videos and I've learned a lot from you. I've decided to concentrate on hand tool work. The power tools are too noisy and create too much dust. So I've started my hand tool collection. You inspire me. Thanks again.

[@WoodByWright]

+David Scott thanks David. That means a lot.

[@robertbamford8266]

Timeless advice. Timely, too.

[@markderry6133]

I have used a feeler gauge to check if there is any possible catch area between the iron and the chip breaker. I prefer not to used a finger nail (and the close proximity of finger skin to the sharp iron). I have also used Paul Sellers technique to really strop the outside front of the chip breaker to micro buff the front edge.

[@sandrinevictorialilylouben7372]

Ah thanks so much. It was the mallet blow who was missing. I've managed to get shavings from my N°5. Thanks so much.

[@arniskalnins1441]

Thanks! This saved my plane.

[@RandomPerson-bd2hv]

Thanks for this. I somehow chipped the heck out of my chip breaker. Total rookie mistake - not sure how I did it yet either. Pissed at myself. Not sure if I can fix the chip breaker or if I need to replace it.

[@imortaldeadead]

Thank you for this lessen, I now see that I've only been going 1\2 with trying to fix mine. How do you know so much? It's always a pleasure to see what New piece of wisdom you leave with us in your videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@WoodByWright]

Thanks man. it comes from messing up so much. it is a great way to learn.

[@alanchappell414]

Thanks for this video👍👍just fixed my problem on my Stanley 4👌👌👌👌

[@timboudreaux2773]

I am having this problem. Now I know how to fix it . Thanks Tim

[@WoodByWright]

glad I could help Tim!

[@watermain48]

There's always a time for brute force, that's why we have big hammers and mallets. Good video James, thanks for posting it.

[@WoodByWright]

LOL I love violent manipulation.

[@rick91443]

FANTASTIC SUBJECT James....Thanks...richard from not so far north....

[@WoodByWright]

+Richard Rider thanks richard!

[@ecofoxtrot2931]

Thanks you very much for this tip. I've this problem until I DIY a scrub plane ... And by the way, thanks for your channel ! I like it, tons of useful infos for a good & efficient use of handtools ! It's scarse and precious :-D Cheers, from Normandy.

[@WoodByWright]

thanks man!

[@claeswikberg8958]

THANK.... YOU!!! now i know what i need to do out in the shed this weekend

[@WoodByWright]

+Claes Wikberg lol my pleasure. Glad I could help.

[@scottbrown3444]

really helpful lesson. thanks

[@GaryGMW]

Excellent piece of info and video.Thanks

[@WoodByWright]

thanks.

[@calebcothron3556]

Thank you for doing this video. I've been having this problem a lot.

[@WoodByWright]

Glad I could help Caleb!

[@evankooiman1988]

This was very helpful. It was frustrating that my freshly sharpened plane was jamming full of chips every time I started to get it set up.

[@WoodByWright]

Lol I have been in that boat. No fun.

[@opasworkshop8373]

I had that problem with the old one I bought now I know how to fix it thanks James.

[@WoodByWright]

Sweet! glad I could help.

[@naralas4737]

Having this exact problem right now so this video couldn't have been better timed.

[@WoodByWright]

thanks Glad I could help

[@garyknight8616]

Thank you. Great video. I'm off to the workshop to "sharpen" the chip breakers.

[@WoodByWright]

+Gary Knight lol don't have too mich fun!

[@blackfender100]

Thanks for the tips James appreciate it as always.

[@WoodByWright]

+Joe Dov any time Joe. Thanks.

[@christ9359]

Hi James. I made this comment on another video, but this one is much more appropriate. I couldn't get the edge of my chip breaker flat. The middle sat flat, but both edges were high. I tried flatting on the stone, but I couldn't get it flat. Now I think I've removed so much material that the entire edge of the chip breaker hovers over the back of the iron. I have no idea what to do.

[@WoodByWright]

oh sorry just mentioned this video on the other one. you can always bend the nose of the chip breaker down. it sounds like when sharpening it you are putting too much pressure on the outsides. the steel is really flexible and can easily deform with too much pressure in one spot or another.

[@christ9359]

@@WoodByWright thank you. I'm guessing I only have a few more shots at this, haha.

[@bobbycarmichael2562]

Hi James, hope you and your family are doing well and staying safe. So I decided to go the sandpaper on tempered glass route for sharpening my plane irons. I have 400 through 2000 grits. My question is can I do the chip breaker with sandpaper, and if so which grits should I use, all that apply? Thanks brother, love your videos and keep up the good work. Bobby

[@WoodByWright]

Yes you can do the chip breaker the exact same way. I would use the same grits just realize the chip breaker is much softer so it will remove material a lot faster. So you may want to start out at something around 6 or 800. but it all depends on how bad the chip breaker is if it needs a lot of work then you might start with 400.

[@christopherpellegrin5147]

Ive recently picked up a few planes and couldnt for the world of me figure out why it was getting jammed up. Thank you; havent been using them because i couldnt figure out how to fix it.

[@WoodByWright]

thanks glad I could be of service.

[@s14slide]

Thanks so much for this video. This is the only thing keeping my beloved #7 Stanley and one of my #4's from performing.

[@WoodByWright]

Sweet! glad I could help!

[@heypockyway6652]

I hate clogging! Thank you for doing this it's a common problem. Btw I'm sorry to say, but it's 'all the way across' not 'acrossed'. Thanks for the videos

[@Bulldog532]

HeyPockyWay that's two sentences. ... for doing this. It's a ... lol

[@WoodByWright]

thanks man! LOL depends on where you are from.

[@BDM_PT]

Hi there from Portugal, Nice :D Obrigado(Thanks)

[@WoodByWright]

thanks man!

[@johnwealthy6044]

I have a brand new No5 Jack Plane and planing edges of hardwood doors is causing me problems. It is hard graft and I feel it shouldnt be. The plane is jerking and producing small shavings (if I can call them shavings) and after a few strokes - maybe two or three, I am having to clear out the mouth. On closer inspection I noticed there was in fact shavings or clogging between the chip breaker and the iron. I spent an awful lot of money on this plane but yet an El Cheapo block plane I found in the loft which has been untouched for 10 years was taking better shavings off the hardwood door very clean and without clogging. So this is what led me to your channel and in particular to this video as this situation cannot be right. Any advice you can offer or any of the subscribers who can help cut down the amount of sweat off this novice would be grately appreciated!!

[@WoodByWright]

I'll be glad to help you out. Feel free to send me an email and I can respond so you can send me pictures of the plane you have. not all planes are equal there are a lot of new planes that are absolutely trash. but most of them with a bit of tweaking can work well. Very few plans can actually work out of the box. You can find my email address in the about me tab on the channel or the contact form on my website.

[@JimDockrellWatertone]

Great tip!

[@WoodByWright]

thanks Jim!

[@youngplayboy786]

thank you for this video, now my issue solve.

[@Trevtao]

Nice work. Thanks.

[@WoodByWright]

+Trevtao thanks.

[@bonoroo5313]

Thanks for the tip James, How about with wooden planes with no chipbreakers? Do you already have a video on that subject?

[@WoodByWright]

I will sometime in the future. They are on my list.

[@davidosullivan3432]

Do you find the strop difficult to use in the plate .i had the same set up but had to have the strop separate to get more control. I also ditch my 1200 grit diamond for a fine oil stone . Great results I find the diamond was that bit rough . Great info thanks

[@WoodByWright]

no for the times I need a loose one (gouges and such) I have several others floating around the shop so there is always one at hand. I just do not like oil stones. used them for a wile and found them way too slow for me. but that is what makes the sport so much fun there is no right way to do it, just the best for each individual.

[@Shizenfism]

Working on restoring an old Stanley no. 3 and these tips will come in very handy. I'm not sure if I missed it in previous videos, but I was wondering what your technique for flattening the back of the iron is? The one I'm working on needs some work for sure (light pitting and not flat). Thanks!

[@WoodByWright]

thanks. for flattening, if there is pitting, I start with sandpaper on glass around 50 grit and work up from there till I get to the strop.

[@Shizenfism]

Yeah, I was thinking of starting with something like 80 grit on a granite tile. Thanks again, James!

[@WoodByWright]

+Shizenfism yup. I go to 50 or 30 if it needs a lot of work but if it is light then start around 80 or100

[@thomasarussellsr]

Great tip.

[@WoodByWright]

thanks Thomas!

[@abbedo]

I have noticed that comments are not present in recent woodworking videos, except for yours. Why was this done, if you know. Good video as always.

[@WoodByWright]

I don't know. I do know that when you scroll down to see comments you now have to wait a few seconds for them to come up. youtube does this so the video will load faster and it only loads the comments when you scroll down for them.

[@alejandrobavassonepotedequ1969]

Hi, I like the videos you do. I have a question: what diamond plates do they have? I send you a big hug from Argentina. Thank you very much.

[@WoodByWright]

here is a link to my sharpening supplies. www.woodbywright.com/tool-suggestions/sharpening

[@alejandrobavassonepotedequ1969]

Thank you very much for your response. I send you a big hug !!!

[@chriscunicelli7070]

Good topic, many new woodworkers don't get its function. I'd like to see you make the totes from scrap wood. I'm gonna do this at some point and I want some good carpenter's input on it.

[@WoodByWright]

+Chris Cunicelli so true Chris. That is on my list as I have a pile of tools to restore.

[@johnraffensperger]

Wish you'd taught my 8th grade industrial arts class. Thank you!

[@gestandard249]

great information i have the same problem so now i have a solution

[@WoodByWright]

+GE STANDARD glad I could help.

[@duminicad]

thank you, excellent video! any idea as to how to fix the adjustment knob on cheap planes? I have a cheap no #4 and the adjustment knob for iron depth spins a lot when switching from thicker to thinner shavings and vice versa, I tried filling the gap with some copper wire, but it didn't help

[@WoodByWright]

that slop in the depth adjustment knob is on most all Bailey Pattern planes.it is there as the yoke goes through at an angle. there is nothing wrong with that. just after backing the iron out run it forward to it puts a bit of pressure on the iron. so that planing does not push the iron further back.

[@giacomobattisti7943]

I always have probs with all my chip breakers! Thanks for this video!

[@WoodByWright]

my pleasure man!

[@cobberpete1]

I'm surprised you still have hairs on your arms with all that testing. Thanks James; awhile back I flattened the face of my chip breaker but did not think about the 'Bevel' on the top, fortunately the plane is running smooth but I will take a look at it in the interest of it being more efficient. Don't you know that half the people who visit your channel come only for the Dad jokes? we actually have a book published here in Oz, and I was thinking of sending one to you :)

[@WoodByWright]

LOL after the arm I use my head. that is why there is no hare up there? LOL I do like my dad jokes!

[@d3strac00l]

Thank you, this video solve my problem.

[@WoodByWright]

Sweet! that is what I like to hear!

[@FredMcIntyre]

Thanks for the info James! 👍

[@WoodByWright]

thanks Fred!

[@Hudson4426]

Had this exact problem... thank you

[@WoodByWright]

Glad I could help 6 nice to have a plane that works properly.

[@gryshie100]

Yeah. Thats it. It solved my problem with my plane ! Gracias ;)

[@WoodByWright]

+gryshie100 perfict. Glad I could help.