When God’s Ways Are Confusing - Bishop Barron's Sunday Sermon

Friends, I do a lot of debating and dialoguing with agnostics and atheists, and very often, when they attack the faith, it's along the lines of: How could an all-knowing and all-good God allow (fill in the blank)? Why does he allow childhood leukemia, or natural catastrophes, or animal suffering? Much of the objection hinges upon the puzzle that is proposed by the existence of God. And we hear a classic answer from within the heart of our tradition today in our second reading from St. Paul to the Romans.
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[@sebyjoseph4642]

Like a child who knows how much the parents love but struggles to understand why they do what they do...but still trusts them... that's a great way of looking at it. Thx Bishop Barron.

[@RosalindToh]

I believe, in order to understand; & I understand, the better to believe (St Augustine of Hippo. 354-430 AD).

[@user-yi8qo7jt1t]

to Seby Joseph, "... to understand why they do what they do" 'and be who they are' and in uncertainty of belief trust them as "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe." (RSV John 20:29).

[@marypinakat8594]

"When you are dealing with God who is not a thing in the world, you are going to a place *where the streets have no name."* - BISHOP BARRON

[@xrisc131]

I lived in that place! A little town in west Texas.

[@changedlife1904]

The streets have no name!! I like that

[@Happy-pb8nn]

@@xrisc131 uu 8

[@davidcole333]

I don't fully understand God, but I trust my life to Him completely. I know that He loves me.

[@TheChristianNationalist8692]

Yes, that is a good mind to have. I hope your catholicism does not get in the way, I worry about your party on these things: hopefully no worries are necessary for you. Blessings. God rest

[@tomgreene1843]

Agreed .

[@RosalindToh]

I believe, in order to understand; & I understand, the better to believe (St Augustine of Hippo. 354-430 AD).

[@lovetruth5518]

​@@TheChristianNationalist8692 Why would Catholisum get in the way? Its the one true Church. He is a Bishop of our Church silly.

[@elianaruthbatavrahamavinu353]

He doesn't like idolatry the belief in JC is idolatry

[@eileengaffney]

May God continue to use you , may the Holy Spirit continue to strengthen and encourage you Bishop Barron 🙏 ❤️ 🙌

[@user-mg1iy1hw3c]

Thank you very much, dear Bishop Barron! The best greetings from Ukraine! God bless you! I try to watch your sermons every Sunday. Thank you again. Best regards, Yaroslav

[@CasaBonita1018]

I'm a returning Catholic. Trusting God has never been my strong suit. He's never allayed my fears or despair when struggle and strife stack up in my life with no silver linings to be found. My only conviction in faith is that He exists, and maybe He will help me and my loved ones in our times of need if we ask Him to when He feels like it.

[@CasaBonita1018]

@TheSunnyman3 For anyone confused here, this isnt really a statement of my ultimate trust in God guiding me through or anything. I'm admitting my fatalism. Life often seems like it's just getting worse, I accumulate scars that ache, hope for the future fades, and I wonder why God chose to let these things happen. No answers come, and I'm left feeling sad, frustrated, full of angst, and trusting Him less.

[@rankinstudios5342]

I have a Christian therapist that has guided me through the processes of letting go of past losses, resentments, anger, trauma..... I now have cleared more space in my heart and soul for God to fill. I am learning it requires hard work and courage (facing my fears) to rid myself of these unresolved issues and experiences. Ask for a friend, spiritual advisor, or priest to recommend someone. It make take a few tries to click with the right therapist but don't give up. It works if you work it. 😊❤😊

[@winlovegan]

Everything is grace. We all came from nothing. The sooner we recognize this nothingness, the quicker we learn to be grateful about the things we have, not for our own sake but for others. Consider the lives of the Saints. The victim souls who’ve known the most tragic, most suffering one could ever fathom. How did they overcome those trials? By complete surrender. Letting His will be done in our lives is not easy if we only rely on our natural abilities. It is a supernatural gift that we can only possess if we have God as our only object. Love is giving without counting the cost. There can be no holiness without suffering. Everything is grace. And He is everything.

[@KayaRaleigh13]

I just read this quote in The Dialogue by St. Catherine of Siena that might help: “to exercise them in virtue and to lift them up out of their imperfection, I take back my spiritual comfort and let them experience struggles and vexations. I do this to bring them to perfect knowledge of themselves, so that they will know that of themselves they have neither existence nor any grace. I want them, in time of conflict, to take refuge in me by seeking me and knowing me. This is why I give them these troubles. And though I may take away their comfort, I do not take away grace.”

[@josiemascorro9701]

@@CasaBonita1018 Your sharing reminds me of Job. 😔🙏🏼💔 May you hear God in the silence, and bless you with his healing graces today.

[@Homeinmygardenwithmydog]

Bishop Barron, you are he finest teacher I have ever had. God bless you for that! Thank you so much for all you do.

[@Lerian_V]

Bro help me if you can to get groceries to sustain me for a month. I haven't had a job for many months now. Weird ask I know. 🤦‍♂

[@JoeF-nr6jq]

And do not believe the negative reviews on America article.

[@lamasbonita3679]

Bishop Barron, one of the GREATEST theologians and brightest minds of our time! Thank you

[@lornavaughan-bb7gp]

Thank you Bishop Barron. May GOD bless and protect you always. ➕️ ♥️

[@marialuisa4227]

Praying for you to be save my friend ,

[@timonkokalj5911]

My Bible just opened on the very verse from Romans you were reading, dear Father. Blessings 🙏

[@ritabiro5105]

Thanks benedica il Segnore l try to trast in Good not judge and acept his love.

[@sandradoherty9358]

Not an accident. He wants us to Dig Deep.

[@user-yi8qo7jt1t]

Oliver Clark to Timon, St Paul should be read with caution given his "opinion" at RSV 1Cor7:25-35 that consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ is a higher vocation than consecrated male female marriage vowed to God: re the married man in a consecrated male female marriage RSV 1 Cor 7:34 asserts "his interests are divided". The two consecrated marriages of Mary as celibate at Luke 1:38 and male female at Mt 1:24 are equal in excellence. Bishop Barron in error asserts consecrated celibate marriage is "a higher way of love" at time 51:34 of his interview by Lex Fridman on "Christianity and the Catholic Church" on 21 July 2022. The "worldwide catastrophe" (Pope Francis, 10 June 2021) of sexual abuse has resulted from acting on this opinion of St Paul repeatedly compounded in roman catholic church role group teaching most recently by: 1. Pope St Paul V1 in his Encyclical Letter, "Of Human Life", Humanae Vitae, 1968 at n.12 not adding 'qualitatively equal' to "inseparable ... union and procreation" in marriage, 2. Pope St John Paul 2 in his exhortation Familiaris Consortio in 1981, 16: "Virginity or celibacy, by liberating the human heart in a unique way, "so as to make it burn with greater love for God and all humanity," bears witness that the Kingdom of God and His justice is that pearl of great price which is preferred to every other value no matter how great, and hence must be sought as the only definitive value. It is for this reason that the Church, throughout her history, has always defended the superiority of this charism to that of marriage, by reason of the wholly singular link which it has with the Kingdom of God.".

[@sue5230]

Oh, Bishop Barron!!! This sermon is amazing!!! God bless you!!!

[@hope-yf6ur]

Thank you for the message, Bishop. It answered my very question, "Lord, why you let these things happen to me and my family?"

[@user-yi8qo7jt1t]

from Oliver Clark, my question was of God asking how is kept/allowed the inseparability and qualitative equality of things happening to me and my being becoming?

[@lindanugent4904]

Thank you bishop Barron, I will ponder on this sermon. I like seeing the Crucifix, I have one in my bedroom and when I'm pondering after asking for guidance of Jesus I look at the crucifix and it calls to mind all the goodness, fasting, walking, little sleep , praying to the father that Jesus did for us and yet so many turned from him once they knew that following him meant possibe persecution. People want diluted faith , no sacrifices, they have itching ears and want easier softer way , I did too many decades ago and remained drunk until I took the narrow path, trusted in him through the ups and downs and remained sober as I do still.

[@mapaz555]

The cloud of unknowing, I love. The text with which God brought me back to his church. Back but deeper into Him. Blessing and Joy. Thank you Father for the way you speak to us and the instruments you use in your infinite Grace. Make us Dear Father instruments of your Peace. Bless your child Bishop Robert, your fine tuned instrument of wisdom. Help us hold your face in our eyes always. May You be all we see. We adore you. Amen

[@thecrafteaneighbor5177]

Hello Bishop Barron! Thank you so much for your homily of this section of Romans. Many years ago, I took a Calculus 3 class. I was struggling with my understanding of an XYZ graph. Then, one class, my teacher did a problem on the board and drew the graph. He said something that really hit home in my understanding of the graph...I don't remember what he said exactly, but it worked. All of a sudden, it dawned on me. Though my teacher was drawing a flat XYZ graph on the board, it wasn't really like that. In fact, the Z-axis was actually sticking out of the board. I has been looking at a 3 dimensional graph as a linear object. It totally changed my perspective and after that, I began to do well in the coursework. This explanation of how we need to trust in God was just like that for me. Especially the part about the 4 year old child. It's like the Z-axis came straight out the board and where I was seeing something as linear, it's actually 3 dimensional. I don't know if that makes any sense, but honestly, it certainly has made a difference for me. So, again, thank you for your gift of explaining Scripture, not linearly, but in a deeper 3- dimensional capacity. It is so greatly appreciated!

[@ChildofGod98765]

As Christians it’s vital to trust God no matter what we are facing. God is our only strength in this world. Like many other single parents things are tough on me. Both of my sons are autistic and non verbal. I’m constantly struggling to provide for my boys. Now that I’m home schooling them things are especially hard. I’m having trouble getting their school supplies. I’m overwhelmed and so ashamed. Father God hear my prayers. My faith in you is strong! Even as I constantly struggle to pay my rent. And I constantly struggle to provide groceries for my children! I trust you Lord! I’m choosing to keep faith. Walking with faith is the most important thing us christian’s must do. That’s why love compassion and prayers are all we truly need. Please keep me in your prayers. Prayers are all I need.

[@janemazzola4454]

Dear Ms. or Mr. Miller, Prayers may be all you need, but still that is expected to be concretized into human hands, imho. How/where can we help you, if you want to share that info? I realize today it may just be AI, but I'm "trusting" it is real human being!

[@renacordova9573]

Prayers for you and your family that God!

[@luisamedici5890]

TiffMiller🙏🙏🙏you will be forever in my prayers🙏🙏🙏with Love ♥️♥️♥️

[@rankinstudios5342]

Great homily. I don’t know why I do some of the things I do. I am a mystery to myself. How can I expect to understand and know others and God when I am my own mystery? At some point, I must surrender that it is okay to accept the Mystery of God. I will always be in awe of His ways. I am on a lifetime journey to get more of God and less of me. ❤😊

[@peggyhawkinson3061]

We’ll said.❤️

[@philipcote4882]

Excellent! True and pretty funny too.👍🙏🤤

[@rinky5128]

Thank you Bishop... U r a blessing to all of us.. ❤

[@jennifersandys8473]

Beautiful Bishop Barron.. I always remember from Isiah My ways are not your ways My thoughts are not your thoughts. Really God's ways are mysterious. Yes. Yet I will trust in God.

[@Graceforpurpose86]

Watching from Africa

[@Graceforpurpose86]

Amen

[@kevk3853]

So well done. Paul's letter to the Romans is so difficult to understand... but this homily connected the dots for my simple mind. God bless you, Bishop Barron!

[@traumaballz4189]

I love Paul's writings. Thanks Bishop Baron!

[@barbaradelpino4020]

What do you recommend to start off with ? for someone who has no real knowledge of his writings. Thanks !!!

[@nickcormier8571]

They call his book to Romans the 5th gospel

[@user-yi8qo7jt1t]

to traumaballz, Bishop Barron has let prey by diseased 'familyist' family members on emotionally and or psychologically vulnerable family members for economic advantages of his family by tax-exemption embezzlements and lower insurance cost by fraud. He does this by grooming them with his occult as hidden, incest connected as substitute spouse, non-economic false status inducement of "a higher way of love" (His interview by Lex Fridman in 24 July 2022 at time 51:34) or "higher vocation" (roman catholic church role group teaching - see TTMHS, PCF, 1995, 35 - until Pope Francis was supported to change this on or just after 10 June 2021 but regressed into it in his General Audience on 15 February 2023 when without support to steady him, cf. Exodus 17:11) of consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ to consecrated male female marriage vowed to God.

[@onyeomachinyeremaka6809]

*Father Lord, thank You for the grace of being alive today! Life goes by so quickly:: please help me to live to love well and take nothing for granted! Please help me to be a good steward with my time,my health,and all You've entrusted to me! Help me to let go of regret and all the things I cannot change! Help me to do my best and then trust everything else to Your hands In Jesus precious name I ask these things.Amen*

[@wsap9198]

Childlike faith, thank you for the perspective, Bishop Barron.

[@michaelinminn]

Summation: Jesus, I trust in You.

[@jaklenbasa5215]

Thank you❤ Bishop god bless you 🙏🏼❤️👏🏻🙏🏼❤️👏🏻🙏🏼❤️

[@elizabethmontemayor-aparat4889]

watching from the Philippines….thank you

[@SnookieGalore]

Oh the lightbulb went on when you spoke about the child and parent!

[@MorreHope]

You came just in time with these revelations. Thank you.

[@mikescully6546]

Phenomenal sermon father. Thank you

[@isaiahgonzales9989]

Excellent as always. God works in mysterious ways and i adore that.

[@mariannell]

Thank you for being there, Bishop Barron.

[@emekamarcel]

Your homily, Bishop Barron has added more feather to my Knowledge of God. It’s so true that God is undefinable and unknowable. The right attitude to God is simply trust. As a child, my mother taught me that “God knows,” meaning that God knows what’s going on. But we don’t.

[@ForestAOrmes]

Smiling in gratitude, Bishop Barron. I in no way intend a sliver of irreverence when I say: "Bishop Barron, you are a man of the people." You come down to eye level with us, like a good child therapist does with a child, and speak to our questions. Speaking for myself here. Again, and again and again, I have encountered the questions you address from believers and non-believers and from lapsed believers. All other questions seem subsumed beneath the one you addressed today. Be well, blessings.

[@gugatena4990]

Wooooow woooow woooow!!!! Hermosísima reflexión graaaaaciaaaaas Padre Robert saludos desde Merida a Yucatan así arrancare con las clases de Catequesis para papás

[@hoofixrman]

St Paul and his story and writings are amazing.

[@aleksandrablaszczyk5971]

Very well said Bishop. I do a lot of studying and yes God puzzles me at times. But then I don’t question or entertain that thought too much… I say Jesus I trust in you and let it go. Nothing like solid good Faith!! Thank you. 🙏❤️

[@user-yi8qo7jt1t]

to Aleksandra ..., 'Nothing like solid good in uncertainty belief as the keeping of the inseparability and qualitative equality of thinking procreation role gift mind and having faith heart identity in need of union.

[@romymarquez9111]

WOW! is all I could say. God bless us all.❤

[@bukurie6861]

Thank you Bishop Barron for Sunday Ser❤mon🌏🫠

[@makeitcount179]

"GOD is not a thing among others in the universe" important fact.

[@laureenclarke5485]

The conclusion of Bishop Barron’s sermon left me with peace beyond measure. What a wonderful way to begin my day, this week and the segue into a new month. I trust that my faith in God will bring me everlasting peace.

[@carolpountney7627]

Jesus I trust in You❤

[@cathyphillips9120]

Tha no you got putting this scripture in perspective!! The phrase "Come to me like little children" now also means so much more!

[@louisl1848]

The depth and the wisdom and knowledge of God..!!!😊🙏 thank you father.

[@arthurmaglieri1824]

I love your insights and all of your teachings in books and videos..thank you Bishop Barron and God bless you

[@margokupelian344]

Just fantastic!!! Thank you bishop. 🙏✝️

[@John.Christopher]

Absolutely beautiful and graceful. I hope everyone has a lovely day ❤🕊

[@kellys5442]

"Why do we think for a second that we should be able to fully understand the judgments of God?" That's a huge wow!!!

[@immaculatelum5102]

Thank you Your Grace

[@barbarabritton4687]

Best I've heard yet on this subject. Good arguments and explanations for having trust.

[@brendapiany8930]

Thank you Bishop Barron

[@sknikalje]

PRAISE THE LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST AMEN

[@jonathandnicholson]

God bless you, too.

[@alicemcpherson7961]

God has no boundaries ❤. Thank you Bishop Barron 🙏

[@nathanngumi8467]

Amen. 🙏

[@user-ms4yl8rd8y]

A friend of mine is certain that there are three of you. Sooo much activity from one single person. :D

[@marioramosribeiro7869]

Thanks for the homily Bishop Robert Barron! Thank for sharing with us your faith and the great theological gift God has given to you. Thanks for your extraordinary efforts to evangilize us. God bless you 🙏🙏🙏

[@akhigbeomoera7716]

God bless you Bishop Barron. I have a son who is Austic. Sometimes I do question God, why did he allow it happen to my son. But now I get it, just trust him.

[@bethhoward1982]

Amazing. . . Bishop Barron, I love your logic and rationale. It’s interesting that that line of reasoning often ends up in paradoxical language. It intrigues me, and somehow leads me to a better understanding of the one, true church - our Catholic faith. Blessings.

[@sarahloffler]

Beautiful and lucid message.

[@vincewyn1396]

❤❤❤

[@alicemcpherson7961]

I trust in God's Wisdom. Thank you Bishop Barron for yet another understanding of God ❤🙏

[@markhierholzer1685]

Thank you. May I have that child’s trust in God.

[@JeanPerrem]

Each week I am in awe as I listen to Bishop Barron ‘s sermon, so Spirit inspired. May the good Lord continue to bless & inspire u with the gifts of Knowledge,Wisdom, patience & understanding. God bless u.Jean Perrem ☘️

[@mbb3913]

Trust in God. Thank you Bishop Barron, God bless you.

[@frboscogeorge2172]

The analogy of the relationship of a child with his or her parents is extremely touching...it opens our minds to the infinite mystery of the inscrutable love of God. Remembering my own story of the relationship with my most beloved parents, I am finding it impossible to hold back my tears while writing these few lines...but I am trying to console myself with my faith...that everything has been a part of the mystery of Divine Love which remains inscrutable for me...

[@chrismaxx8528]

Awesome sermon! Thank you Father Barron. 😊

[@SuperTGTV]

powerful!

[@hannakump2419]

Very , very beautiful sermon .

[@Lerian_V]

You knocked this sermon out of the park as usual Bishop. May the Lord continue to bless you as you feed his flock there in Minnesota and here online. God has used you to make my faith in him stronger than ever.

[@conniek8221]

AMEN! I love you Bishop Barron! This message makes it loud and clear! I don’t question the Lords’ ways , only trust!!✝️ Father knows best!!!!!

[@eririe1451]

Currently in such a hard time i feel like id rather die but i know that God is with me

[@Tinkerlooful]

If you give me your first name…I will pray for our Father to guide you through this hard time.

[@eririe1451]

@@Tinkerlooful it is zalfa, please pray for me

[@brigidcannon8130]

Thank you, Bishop Barron for your reflection on Paul’s Letter of Romans 11. So many people raise this question of wanting to understand God’s Ways and Why Does God allow all this suffering in our world? You gave a wonderful explanation , examples and challenge to all of us as believers. God bless your preaching! Peace and all good, Sr. Brigid, OP

[@champikakumaraperu176]

Wonderful sermon Bishop. I continue to trust my God even though I don't understand what is happening around me. GOD BLESS YOUR MINISTRY

[@donnaostojski5478]

You take one sentence and bring to life, in vivid detail, the message of the Gospel and the world of the early Christians. How we hunger for the depth of your interpretation of the Gospel. Thank you Bishop Barron.

[@michaelcarper2185]

I feel like we should still know God better than we do. I feel like God should reveal Himself more than He does. It's too hard to follow Him. He's too hard on us. We're just human beings, after all.

[@jlheidbreder]

You are reaching so many & me. Thank you Bishop🙏🏻🩵🕊

[@mariondomoguen4353]

thank u Bishop Barron. i love listening to your inspired sermons. they're well articulated and on point. We finite humans have a tendency to try to put the infinite indefinable God in a box and imagine we have Him figured out. it really takes the humility of a child to relate to in faith to this loving Being revealed in Christ... I have to add to my vocab the words "I don't know" when people ask "why" about God .. thanks for your faithful teaching.. God bless u always 🙏

[@smsmsm94]

52 years married and yes my wife is a 12:27 mystery wonderfull

[@aptmadooms]

Your comment about why do we think we should be able to understand the depth of God is something that sticks with me. It can be difficult to live in the mystery from both sides

[@rosanneaudritsh5133]

Beautifully Said. Thank you ❤

[@bethpoot8836]

i love this! thanks much Bishop Barron!! God loves me so much He blessed me with instinctive, unbreakable trust in Him from when i was a child up to now (when i'm 60 yrs old). nothing can break my faith and love for God and the Catholic Church even though I don't understand much of His ways. i just trust that He loves me and will always keep me (and the whole world) in His care no matter what -- that i am more than 100% sure. God bless you more Bishop Barron! will always pray for you.

[@racheleaggleston6410]

St. Paul❤His loveletters to every Christians in the empire, who were systematically killed by lions, wild beasts, or hanging on a cross. God bless you, Bishop Barron!

[@hasde1320]

Wow. May God bless you Bishop Barron!! From the bottom of my heart, thank you for this timely talk in my life. Thank you!

[@Rugbylacroose4life]

Beautiful, thank you Bishop!

[@wendyfield7708]

Thank you.

[@cyriacsebastian6820]

Unbelievable Bishop Barron! What a sermon! Prayers.

[@docgillygun9531]

The child and parent analogy really made it sink in for me. Thank you for that understanding.

[@FebrianSihotang-po2uv]

Indonesia slalu hadir menyimak homili Bapa dan kami sangat bertrimakasih atas pengajaran bapa sehingga kamipun makin diteguhkan kami slalu mendoakan Bapa semoga sehat selalu syalom jambi

[@TecOneself]

Thank you father, Paul has been one of my favourite disciples, if not the best. I guess Jhon was as well as all those who followed among this centuries. Wishing a present Testament to unite this earth here on heaven with actual, living characters who do exist, within them, you father, thank you. Amen.

[@drkarenhanson]

Thank you

[@user-eo5ol1qv1n]

If there is no God, There is no reason for life itself.

[@camilllecapellupo6079]

I think that Bishop Barron expressed the truth today. He explained in a way I can understand. My life is because of God. God has saved me many times in my life. I have since I was a child turned to God. I hope everyone gets your message today! God bless!

[@mariaaniela1]

Dziękuję....Maria

[@omobosedefashedemi146]

Dankeschon 🥰

[@elliegasser1575]

thank you Bishop and a blessed Sunday

[@REDSTONE168]

Love the analogy of the child and the parents. I’m going to use that. Ty Bishop Barron.

[@changedlife1904]

People that do not acknowledge there is a creator blows my mind , nobody remembers being born but it happened nobody sees god but he is here

[@Sara-tl5jo]

Thank you bishop Barron, I love the way you explain the Word: you go so high, so deep and you also have the capability of being practical. It's very useful to me to hear you.... It makes me know God and my self better, almost experiencly... You're such a good gift to our church, I hope you can be the next Pope!

[@sabrinamerchant1964]

Faith is the substances of things hoped fir, for evidences not seen. Thank you Bishop for so subtly leading us to this thought. Cant wait to hear more Pauline lectures from you.