Working THROUGH Intrusive Thoughts | Sanders Sides

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It’s been a difficult time for Thomas as of late, and after an especially rough night of insecurity, Thomas made a deal with Logan to get his life in order! But it’s not going to be that easy for him to shake off all the thoughts and anxieties going through his head, and Remus is pulling out all the stops, attempting to ensnare Thomas in stronger intrusive thoughts than ever. Are all of these thoughts random? Or do they all have to do with… one thing in particular?
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Works Cited:
Reasons Why You Make Bad Decisions:
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The Science of Regrettable Decisions:
www.vox.com/2019/7/23/2070298...
Mindfulness: How to Do It:
www.mindful.org/mindfulness-h...
Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts:
adaa.org/learn-from-us/from-t...
5 Ways to Free Your Mind from Intrusive Thoughts:
www.rtor.org/2020/05/18/5-way...
I Used to Panic Over My Intrusive Thoughts. Here’s How I Learned to Cope:
www.healthline.com/health/men...
8 Hacks For Dealing With That Negative Thought That Won't Get Out Of Your Head:
www.bustle.com/p/how-to-actua...
Cognitive Distortions of Magnification and Minimization: www.verywellmind.com/magnific...
What Are Cognitive Distortions and How Can You Change These Thinking Patterns?: www.healthline.com/health/cog...
How to Stop Catastrophizing:
www.medicalnewstoday.com/arti...
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[@fuyuhikokuzukuma4153]

Logan snapping "Stop ignoring me!" Is really important because often people ignore logic or reason when faced with their intrusive thoughts. I should know, because I have them. Logan feels ignored not only because Thomas is having trouble with his intrusive thoughts, but is not getting anything productive done. Intrusive thoughts are very annoying to say the least.

[@dance_ofThaDEAD]

Especially since he's been pushed to the side for the last few episodes

[@froggy7274]

I agree entirely wit this comment, as someone who also deals with intrusive thoughts, ignoring logic and reason when facing them is something I do frequently

[@amberrose9434]

Thomas also ignored logan at the end.

[@jellyss4300]

Man I miss this fandom :']

[@spoopyandtired6704]

Seconded! One of by biggest theories going off this is that Logan *is* the next dark side, and only shows that side of himself when he isn't being listened to. Or, at the very least, the next dark side is a direct counter to Logan. :)

[@that-gay-dork3749]

Logan and Remus’ dynamic is just so funny to me. It’s like the stoic friend who gives 0 fucks having a solo day with the friend who would probably punch a cop then steal their car.

[@cartooncritiqued1539]

I love that even thought its obvious whose who, it could be either of them depending on the day

[@blaccoreo3110]

Honestly, perfection 👌

[@freyexists.3657]

me, the autistic girl who also has adhd: and i'm BOTH OF THEM, JAHAHAHJAJAHA-

[@diamondbandit8385]

I love Logan trying to reason with Remus too, treating him like an accepted side. I'm in tears

[@thevioletskull8158]

It’s more like a weird back and forward

[@eat_the_rich2004]

Remus screaming "IM ALLERGIC TO SOAP YOU B*TCH" is probably my favourite part of this video

[@user-ve4oe4pw3q]

I do love how they made that part of his character I think it is so remus to be allergic to soap

[@Cre8ivBookworm]

I know everyone is excited for the reveal of a new side (orange), or Remus's antics, but can we take a moment to appreciate how Logan was able to repeatedly recognize when Thomas was about to spiral (Through Remus's influence/visualized by what Remus's rube goldbergs), and three separate times, he allowed his schedule to take the back burner in favor of Thomas's wellbeing. Like he is Logic, and adhering to the schedule is not always the most logical thing to do.

[@Fynchfire]

agreed

[@alexjewett7455]

Character development.

[@KitariKitsune]

I would liken this to emotional intelligence, which is still a type of intelligence, so it makes sense that logic(Logan) would grow to understand it

[@sheppin_]

I like how Logan has slowly become more emotionally intelligent overtime. Real character development there!

[@lilia4836]

yesss! exactly what I was thinking

[@maem7462]

It’s amazing I was like why he’s doing so good with caring about C!Thomas’s emotions

[@DemonCatt256]

I am so proud of him!

[@RemyRP]

Yess, and i'm SO proud of him for that! Its awesome to see this character growth!

[@sunsetskye483]

True

[@catbatrat1760]

Everyone's talking about the orange Side and Logan finally reaching his limit and other important things, but I just wanna take a second to appreciate the idea of Remus having a spanking fetish and trying to get Logan to participate in some teacher-student BDSM roleplay with him. It's, like, the most fitting thing ever.

[@stardustartist]

He also had all of his chaos in the form of Rube Goldberg contraptions needlessly complicated and dramatic to do something like throw knives, open doors and, make the bed

[@run_robinrun2249]

@@stardustartist It kinda feels like the leaps in logic that intrusive thoughts sometimes make (no pun intended)

[@SylviaRustyFae]

I had to take a screencap of that part bcuz it was just so good i had to share it xD

[@imagoat273]

OH NO HE WOULD

[@akumo_5006]

I cant stop laughing

[@skyhideaway]

can we appreciate Logan's growth? he started off being completely unconcerned about Thomas's feelings and emotions, even regarding it as annoying or childish. he only paid attention to the logical side of things and didn't care much about how it made Thomas feel. but now he's actually trying to be more empathetic and help Thomas sort out his feelings, calm down when necessary and generally take care of himself more.

[@coyotix]

actually, he started off super ok with thomas being a little lenient with schedules for the sake of mental well being, but at the start of season 2 he kinda dropped all bit of emotion and started being more strict with schedules, but he's realizing slowly but surely it's okay to be emotional, which makes his growth all the more refreshing!

[@ishaalimtiaz6715]

but its not working because he's STILL being ignored and he seems real mad about that@@coyotix

[@ishaalimtiaz6715]

​@@coyotixi feel like he's trying his best to be what thomas needs but its not working so shits about to go down soon

[@AceZeroBalance]

Every time we get more Remus content, he’s turning more and more into Beetlejuice, and I love that

[@spider_leooo]

omg yes

[@Nightsunderthetree]

I’m happy I’m not the only one that thought that Remus is more and more becoming Beetlejuice

[@ELLISS_pattonsversion_]

YESSSSSSS

[@nebulastarlight]

no one: logans orange eyes: *exist* the fandom: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN

[@finnlioldenburggarcia728]

Yea =>= XD

[@sagittarius1687]

Fander theorist 1 : ok So we finally are getting an orange character sadly probably will be evil Logan even though that would be pretty epic Fander theorist 2 : OK but what if it wasn’t even Logan still thinking on your page as well but like what if it’s the dumb side what does that sound stupid Fander theorist 1 : no no I see where you’re coming from Etc

[@rosilynrivas9251]

AND THE END CREDITS!

[@wingedkatgirl]

Heck yes

[@flushy8602]

22:07 if anyone is wondering

[@highdivinity8243]

Okay, can we appreciate how much Logan is growing and taking on criticism? He’s allowing Thomas more free time even if he made plans, EVEN when Thomas doesn’t ask for it, he’s sticking around while Thomas is on edge (notice the lack of other sides) and is making sure he’s okay. We love Logan, is what I’m saying. Oh, and I also feel sad about the ending now :)

[@insertusernamehere3173]

Yes indeed

[@captainpride4734]

Omg same I cried at the end

[@piercedsiren]

I feel sad whenever Logan is ignored, especially when he's like 😐 .. *sink down*

[@plumeria72]

@@piercedsiren ikr

[@charoflakes]

he's also starting to use phrases without the use of the cards! it's a small detail but it does show how he's growing :]

[@xeoney]

I love how Remus says he's allergic to soap, but also eats soap regularly

[@kindashortrat6417]

“There is no rhyme or reason to what I do, I just do.”

[@Foschops70]

Self destructive behaviour

[@kindashortrat6417]

@@Foschops70 Jesus Christ

[@hitherefella]

I swear he has a pain/humiliation kink

[@AngryDemonCat]

Yep that's just why I love him so much!! Doing things he shouldn't do even if it's bad for him💖💚💚💚💚🐙🐙🐙🐀🐀

[@LynnBenny]

Logan is amazing and loving. 1) Helping Thomas get a schedule. 2) Taking care of his health. 3) Validating him. 4) Being gentle to him. 5) Calming his fears.

[@who.is_updog_]

YES. THANK YOU.

[@_.SpaghettiMuffins._]

Ikr? This is why my friend loves Logan

[@catzie_78]

So what you're saying is boyfriend material

[@ImADeity]

I mean he was also possessed by the devil for a second so

[@KrisRN23935]

Can I adopt him?

[@Starfire1634]

To know that Logan is the "Aunt that's done with everyone's crap is just drinking through the pain" is probably the best character arc in 5 seconds.

[@ineedalife6489]

Remus being allergic to soap while eating deodorant on the regular is pretty telling about his personality

[@inkdemon6065]

It reminds me of someone who's lactose intolerant but eats ice cream all the time.

[@123grstu5]

He enjoys the hives

[@tendou_kinnie2636]

Self destructive, the thing intrusive thoughts can do with ease

[@evanoxbrough1456]

intrusive thoughts can be self destructive

[@Vendetteav]

@@inkdemon6065 that’s me bestie.

[@thedemonjester7755]

I actually feel bad for Logan he tried so hard to get Thomas in line but he just ended up being ignored again

[@o0DreamCream0o]

YEAH

[@greekfreak1436]

I love how Remus’s role is actually just forcing people to look at uncomfortable truths

[@Chestnut-xm2pv]

That's a stretch. Looking at such truths is only a byproduct of interacting with Remus; as we've seen, Remus only wants Thomas to acknowledge his ideas.

[@johnnyjoestar850]

@@Chestnut-xm2pv Remus's song had a section where he talks about how understanding oneself is crucial.

[@who.is_updog_]

I love that Remus is basically honesty in some weird way. Logan represses his own feelings, Roman hides his self-esteem issues, Virgil has A TON of secrets, Janus is DECEIT, and Patton has repressed his feelings, Thomas' scary thoughts, and he's tried to sugar-coat what he thought Thomas' morals should be (even when he wasn't sure). Remus has been completely honest this whole time. Remus doesn't care about how Thomas thinks of him, he just wants Thomas to acknowledge his way of creativity (even then, he's just doing his own thing).

[@AwkwardDancer93]

intrusive thoughts aren't necessarily true, though; a lot of them aren't. with intrusive thoughts, you just need to see them, acknowledge them, and then move on with your day (because ignoring them makes them louder). ascribing too much significance to intrusive thoughts can be very destructive.

[@greekfreak1436]

@@AwkwardDancer93 of course normal instructive thoughts have little to no meaning, but when they get more violent and frequent, it’s usually because you’re repressing something

[@surrealrosalynd]

Janus eating the apple after saying "Everything is just fine." - THE SYMBOLISM - foreshadowing that we are going to learn more about the orange side soon!!! AHHHH

[@Ashokas_Wheelhouse]

Plus the snake in the tree? It calls back to the whole adam and eve thing and it's so cool to see

[@surrealrosalynd]

@@Ashokas_Wheelhouse That's what I meant by the symbolism, the apple/tree of knowledge and all that, it is VERY damn cool, I love that stuff in Sanders Sides

[@michaelhampton1724]

Also more biblical meaning because Janus is in a tree eating an apple and he's constantly referred to as a snake boy. Nice touch Thomas

[@michaelhampton1724]

@@surrealrosalynd that's right the fruit of knowledge which was forbidden in Eden! I didn't think of that til you mentioned it, nice

[@foxlinepotat4684]

Thats what he said? Wow

[@naccount5584]

Logan: You knew they (closets) weren't sentient, right? Thomas, who has held a conversation with his stove: ...

[@drawingislife_09]

XD

[@winterfrost589]

Thomas: 👁👄👁

[@ms.crochet30]

He's now the official wine aunt. 🤣

[@winstonpotts9776]

Thomas: *being a typical horror movie protagonist* Logan: DANCE!!

[@g0blin_T04sT]

Can I just say, Thomas woke at 2:00pm, did other stuff for about 20mins, and coloured until 3:20pm. He coloured for an hour, and I don’t know why, but that makes me so happy

[@aniallater33]

It’s 2:30 when he has breakfast.

[@g0blin_T04sT]

@@aniallater33 Yeah- I said *about* 20mins. It's just a relative estimate. But, thank you for the extra info anyway!

[@Fynchfire]

SAAAAAAAME

[@loganu4664]

LOGAN DUMPING OUT HIS COFFEE AND POURING WINE INTO HIS CUP IS SUCH A MOOD

[@theoutsiderjess4869]

It really is

[@atherflame7626]

XDXD

[@munchie69]

True lmao

[@cortneylane200]

Logan being a wine mom confirmed

[@BelladonnaJojo]

He really said "I need something stronger to deal with YOU today"

[@froggydraws_24]

thomas: **just trying to enjoy his lil gay moment** remus: *hey there bestie*

[@hybriddemon7649]

Thomas: So I'm going to do some chores around the house Remus: ... And I took that personally.

[@thatastastan]

Thomas: *is trying to be productive* Remus: *haha no*

[@sarahb2628]

I've always loved that the Dark Sides have positive aspects to them, and the implication in this video that the "good" sides could have darker aspects absolutely thrills me. Any trait in an extreme can be hazardous.

[@claireaquos6532]

Well, the thing about the sides is they only are a part of Thomas personality wich means they are all extremist in there particular domain. And no matter what, being an extremist is never good.

[@grayish2538]

It's so hard to see how Remus has a positive trait though. Like he should have one but like.... WHAT IS IT? It's driving me insane.

[@opal3789]

@@grayish2538 Well, to me atleast, he almost seems to represent truth in a way. Like he said in his introduction episode "I would never lie to you Thomas". Which seems to have rained true and makes sense. Remus encompasses intrusive thoughts primarily, now, I need to make sure I word this correctly because its very confusing and took me a minute to wrap my head around. He's definitely the most complicated side imo, lol. Ok so, intrusive thoughts are.. how do I put this? Not exactly "telling" of a person, they arent something you inherently plan to do or even want to do. But you still thinks those thoughts which CAN mean something. Now, it has been brought up in episodes before that thoughts don't have to have any meaning whatsoever. Im inclined to believe that about say, the bear trap, or the knife flying through the air. However, for the three primary intrusive thoughts of the video 1 thing is consistent and that is what they are alluding to. That being Thomas's fear of being alone. Take the oat meal scene for starters, Remus gives Thomas the thought of "What if there's something in my food and I choke and die" Thomas proceeds to express to Logan that if that happened there'd be no one there to help him. He'd be doomed do to his being alone and would die alone in the process. The closet? While that's probably the most subtle of the examples here, it still contributes to the overall point. Generally when you live with someone the fear of someone hiding in your home to kill you is diminished, and/or if that were to happen you arent alone, you'd have someone there to help you, protect you, watch you back. Also if someone were to break in to kill you and your there alone then dieing alone is simply a thought that will resurface. Lastly there's the Nico scene/the knife scene, a fear that Nico doesn't actually like him and will leave him. Aswell as a perpetuation of the idea that if Thomas doesn't end it first then Nico will and that will hurt more. To put it into words most everyone has heard re-iterated time and time again in some story, or series, or media, Kill or be Killed or more accurately Hurt, or get Hurt. Resulting in ending up right back where we started sad, afraid, and alone. Remus's role is messy, its scary, its uncomfortable but it IS important. He helps Thomas to realize some unsavory truths. In his own, very, very roundabout way. Remus and Janus are almost a weird antithesis to each other. Janus lies to Thomas, i.e Thomas lying to himself about how truthful he is, but he also gets Thomas to lie to others to protect him. Janus or your decit could represent when your mental health is in the gutter and a friend asks if your ok, your uncomfortable and afraid to talk about it, so your decit has you say "Im fine" to protect you, it doesn't want you to be distressed or to break down so it puts a sheild of false stableness up to keep you safe. While Remus can represent those horrible thoughts that you have when your mental health isn't doing well, the thoughts that you explain to you therapist that they proceed to decifer and use to unveil the truth of you issues, and once you have realized those, potentially ugly and uncomfortable truths, you can then work them out. Id go as far as to say Remus is one of if not the most important or prominent side when contributing to working out mental health. He shows you whats wrong so you can fix it. Remus is step number one to being in a good place mentally.

[@arrowsandaces3624]

Most people are rarely angry for no reason, there’s often (at the very least in their mind) a logical reason behind their rage Logan never shows many emotions, or claims to not have them. However, on a many many occasions we have seen him portray one emotion, and that’s anger. It makes sense that logic, could be the center for rage. It also makes sense that he would try to keep it locked away

[@jakoblent4694]

meaning Logan could be both dark blue and orange as a side mhh i see thomas took inspiration from a certain book about a logical man having a anger monster inside of him

[@Lyliarc]

Logan has most definitely shown emotion on a number if occasions. Happiness being one of them. Atleast in the earlier episodes. Logan does not smile anymore.

[@CINDERRR__]

Orange could stand for hopelessness, impatience, and pride. Funny thing to it can stand for deceit and creativity.

[@jarnold]

@@jakoblent4694 no he cannot. please look at the thumbnail for putting others first.

[@jarnold]

anyways responding to op, he also experiences fear. is he virgil? and idk man, Logan isnt the only one getting angry in this episode. even while Logan is talking to Remus we see clips of c!Thomas getting angry at Nico for not responding. and interestingly enough, he gets angry at Nico when they both have knifes, despite this being a fake scenario he imagined. doesnt seem like an exactly logical reason to get worked up

[@troubletroon]

Logan deserves so much. He’s just a distant parent who doesn’t understand emotional but cares for his Thomas very much 🥺

[@faesimone1873]

He cares about all of them very much he cannot express it the way they can understand it.

[@shadowwood549]

Poor Logan, I feel sorry for him. When will he snap and just tell everyone off? Loved the new Sanders sides Thomas. Can't wait for the next one.

[@shadowwood549]

@@faesimone1873 I know. Poor Logan.

[@shanta824]

22:06 damn, Logan 😲

[@liseegeskov8769]

@@shadowwood549 he might need help from orange then

[@shadowcattt]

The fact that Logan doesn't push him to just get on with stuff and looks out for Thomas' wellbeing and understands he's not doing well. That's huge growth from s1. Logan

[@wingedkatgirl]

Yup

[@winterling223]

He’s logic. He’s learning from the experiences

[@caki4695]

@@winterling223 That's fair

[@princessthyemis]

Yeah...!

[@coolstone2599]

100%

[@vixsmith5542]

I just noticed this! When Thomas said, "I'm sorry, and impressed by your reflexes." Logan just replies with "Coffee." That was so funny and it's true with me.

[@nobodyisevenhere]

Yeah that response was great... But you know a bit confusing considering he didn't drink coffee, but actually threw it away for wine 🤔

[@pipedream2556]

It kind of only just sank in that Logan and Remus fighting is literally Thomas's Logic trying to fend off his intrusive thoughts in a visual representation of the battle leaving him a wreck throughout the episode. In the end, Remus wins not bc his distractions worked but bc the random intrusive thoughts were a symptom of Thomas being unable to stop thinking about this issue with Nico, THAT was what was actually intruding on his ability to focus on the tasks, including the little fun tasks Logan sets to try and soothe the random episodes - the alarms (literal reminders of the pressuring schedule Logan set) go off and interrupt the nice and fun task (which he's supposed to do until the intrusive thoughts are soothed I.e. representing him paying attention to his mental health) which both breaks his calm focus on the colouring/puzzle/dancing and draws his attention back to his phone and the still unanswered message to Nico. It's all connected, one thing leading to the next and in the process Logan was distracted by the random intrusive thoughts, missing that it wasn't actually something like a screw in the oatmeal or a house intruder that he's focusing too much on, it's a totally separate issue that the alarms he told Thomas to set are constantly reminding him of! And judging by Remus saying (well, singing) "can't fix him all by yourself" he's aware of the true root of the issue and knows Logan isn't...was this his reason for being such a pain? Logan tried to say that he acknoedges that there must be some use for Remus existence at some point but right now Logan is doing something more relevant and important, but that common sense doesn't change the fact that last night was when Thomas sent that text so it's today he's freaking out over it - no amount of calming yourself down from random intrusive thoughts will change that Thomas has something to be concerned about (From his perspective). Logan is trying so hard but just isn't able to pick up on what's ACTUALLY going through Thomas head, or why he jumps at the chance to reassure himself that Nico wants to spend time with him, I think THATS what Remus can bring to the table - understanding the less reasonable parts of how Thomas's mind works!

[@Fynchfire]

HEY YEAH

[@cr4zyg0r34]

“I don’t care about the knife- BUT THE SOAP” 😂 edit: thank you for all of the likes 😳

[@lmb803]

I relate🤧

[@victoryismine2121]

That one gets me every time I skip back just to watch it

[@victoryismine2121]

@Nathan Stuart ???

[@monicamititelu3189]

The soap!!!!!

[@hazyhope._.]

@@victoryismine2121 ignore him. Just a random troll

[@melodytheatre2887]

“You’re the least favorite side and you know it.” “Logan, can you stop?” “Not that any of you care, but I am unharmed.” This has been happening for a while. Logan :(

[@tyjaelittle36]

I know he’s been so mistreated but I never though he would turn out to be the orange side wrath!!

[@echomoon4693]

Patton even took the chance to skip Logan’s text in Svs redux. Just passed him by like he wasn’t valid. I feel awful for Logan like really he’s so taken for granted

[@alliwolf3627]

@@tyjaelittle36 I don't think he is the orange side i think he's being affected by the orange side

[@ellaphant-6885]

@@echomoon4693 I think Thomas mentioned in a stream that it wasn’t on purpose

[@screamsformemes]

;_;

[@thatdogisjet2892]

I love think about how Thomas just sits reading long complicated comments about theory’s and such just laughing because he actually knows who is correct and who is wrong.

[@Fynchfire]

same

[@ajk4452]

When remus went into the corner with his lil dunce cap its literally the enbodiment of "Don't talk to me, i'm angy"

[@jadelynne8495]

Not any Sander Side in the world: Remus: -screaming in pain- "Oh~" -followed by more painful screaming-

[@cc_ellie_Lily]

IKR

[@hikkiko9050]

This whole episode is basically Remus failing trickshots lmao

[@jamdatail6773]

Sides imperfect

[@patrickcross2923]

@@jamdatail6773 imperfect side

[@alexconners7378]

logan: remember cognitive distortion? me, nodding solemnly: hagendas dispersion

[@korgi_cosplays5506]

9:29 Logan giving the tiniest smile while trying not to laugh at Remus is EVERYTHING to me!!!! I love the subtlety of it!

[@TonySnacc]

The entire fandom is on a ROLL. We get one drop of Content and we're immediately like "ANGST???"

[@echomoon4693]

Fanders are to angst as sharks to blood in the water. We can smell it from miles away

[@koaladits1689]

Indeed we can

[@darkdragon3927]

@@echomoon4693 facts

[@Riateph]

Seagulls from Finding Nemo! "angst? Angst? Angst! :D"

[@dramadobacalhau8059]

@@echomoon4693 actually sharks can’t smell blood miles away, because the particles of blood would need to enter their noses for them to smell them, but I know whatcha meant

[@Emo_Cat]

"I DONT CARE ABOUT THE KNIFE BUT THE SOAP!!!" -Remus 2021

[@atherflame7626]

XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD

[@Your_wired_]

That's going to be my year book quote

[@itz_liv2361]

YES 😂😂😂😂

[@michaelajacobsen3619]

Right after Remus said "And who do you really want to scream that at?" I got an ad for "Mr. Clean magic erasers!" I guess Remus's hatred for soap transcends even into the ads...

[@Norah_The_Silly]

Lmao

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[@princessthyemis]

Haha!

[@tayloringaround8407]

When Logan said ‘Stop ignoring me’ then Nico called what went through my mind was “damn he manifested”

[@letboburnahmburnem3489]

Remus: * literally gets stabbed in the eye * “ *I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE KNIFE BUT THE SOAP!* “

[@lex.is.ordinary]

Are we not gonna talk about how much Remus messed with Virgil to get under Logan’s skin. He was making Thomas hella anxious the entire time.

[@echomoon4693]

I loved how we could still see Virgil at work even if we couldn’t see him physically. Such good attention to detail. And yeah Frl Remus was really just poking Virgil this whole video

[@mistermachiavelli3274]

It is like Remus knows he has no real effect on Logan himself, but his weakness is his love for Thomas and his friends.

[@kdepp90]

I noticed that myself

[@alpacamari1874]

I was like Where the hell is Virgil The entire time…I knew he was there but I wanted to see him

[@kdepp90]

@@alpacamari1874 omg SAME!!!

[@Gunslinger.Maniacs]

The way Logan sinks down after looking all lonely in the end GENUINELY makes me so sad

[@sk3llyb0nes]

I love how Remus could have so easily just done half of the things to freak Thomas out himself, but instead, he relies on the most convoluted 'Home alone' stunts

[@ishaalimtiaz6715]

I think those weird things were a metaphor for the 'subconcious' 'thought process' behind intrusive thoughts that no-one is aware of that end up leading to the intrusive thought.

[@royce6485]

Logan’s speech about not being flashy and not being able to get through to someone was very well written. Logic gets often ignored in favor of more impulsive anxieties and fits of human passion. But we all need a little logic to keep us balanced

[@TheSapphireLeo]

Otherwise, worse case senario, you become Chris-Chan...

[@lolli_popples]

Janus and Remus being the only people remotely aware of how much everyone is ignoring Logan is kind of sad. But it does make sense that they wouldn't point it out, as it will probably allow another Darkside to show up.

[@RikudoMadaraUchiha]

I hope at some point we do away with the concept of “Light and Dark” sides because even “wrath” if that is the orange side has a good purpose in people’s lives. Anger in healthy amounts allows one to stand up for themself or give motivation for something. Same if the orange is instead Pride, we need to be prideful of ourselves but too much pride can lead to huge egos and thus quick to rage.

[@cmd0317]

I feel like they’re the ones who notice because they know what it feels like being ignored

[@angelic252]

@@RikudoMadaraUchiha yeah, the series has continuously showed us that even the "light/good" sides of us can hurt us if allowed to take complete control and overshadow every other side. There's a need for balance and cooperation between all of the sides so that one can lead a healthy life. I think the dark sides are called that because we usually think of exhibiting that kind of behaviour as bad, whereas the Light sides are the ones whose existence we tend to encourage and think of as nothing but good. Lying, living in fear and letting intrusive thoughts take up your mind are seen as something bad and Ambition and Creativity, Empathy and Logic are seen as something great that can keep the former three in check, but the truth is Caution, and whatever Janus and Remus embody (wit and cynicism? nihilism? destructive creativity?) are just as necessary to keep the others from becoming too much.

[@Starlight-Tale]

@@angelic252 Janus can also be seen as governing outer presentation in society and self-preservation, so that's his positive purpose. Remus I'm less sure of, but maybe dark creativity? Or maybe self-awareness, given that he tends to bring darker thoughts to light.

[@felipecesconettomartins2097]

I feel like the main colors of each side are gonna complete a rainbow, with the "dark" sides being the opposites to the "light" sides in the color wheel, because remus was the mirror version of roman, and also the complementary color for roman's red, which might indicate that Janus or deceit is somehow a mirror version of anxiety, going off their colors (maybe even virgil was the "dark" side of janus in the first place, but idk) meaning the new orange side that might be coming is a warped or mirror version of Patton and Logan (the color wheel would give both blues an orange hue as complementaries) with something about them being about a "bad" type of logic. -edit: i think virgil and deceit being "opposites" makes sense, as maybe Thomas might view anxiety as some sort of "self-deceit" into thinking something is scary or... Well... Anxiety deserving, than it should be. (Also sorry for bad English, it isn't my first language)

[@DreamyDiamond]

Intrusive thoughts can magnify underlying problems in your daily life and Remus has now twice brought attention to the source of problems. First being Remus' introduction brought more adult humor and content in the series, now Remus is pointing out that having Nico in Thomas' life is distracting him from taking time to better himself as well as basic self care.

[@sailordeathstar2364]

Which is why I think Patton doesn't like Nico. I can't remember which video but when they brought up Nico, Patton got really uncomfortable. Nico is giving Thomas more things to worry about, which means he's giving Remus more fuel.

[@Unidentified952]

Y’know Remus has a main role when there’s several content warnings 😂

[@unfortunatelymax4187]

LOGAN. VALIDATING. THOMAS’. FEELINGS. AND. ADJUSTING. CHARACTER. DEVELOPMENT.

[@whitecray0en]

THIS. IS. EXACTLY. WHAT. I. WAS. GOING. TO. COMMENT.

[@alexwahoff8767]

YES.

[@juliannacontreras]

*Screams in Logan's arc*

[@DeathGodRiku]

YES!

[@echomoon4693]

BUT WHERE IS THE VALIDATION FOR LOGAN IN RETURN. HE VALIDATED EVERY ONE ELSE IN THIS EP AND WAS NOT VALIDATED IN RETURN 😭😭

[@twistydoodlesandnoodles2701]

I feel like this episode shows how smart Remus can actually be, considering all of his domino puzzles DID work, just backfired-

[@cmd0317]

Fr he’s kind of a genius

[@thatastastan]

It scares me to think that he’s actually smart in some way cause of his personality, he definitely doesn’t seem like he’d be smart

[@tatltails3923]

and then in his second serious appearance he figured out _exactly_ which of Logan's buttons to push, whereas in his first episode he had everyone _but_ Logan pinned down?

[@twistydoodlesandnoodles2701]

@@tatltails3923 Y O U R R I G H T . . .

[@twistydoodlesandnoodles2701]

@@thatastastan i feel like we should of been scared of him before.. BUT NOW WE SHOULD BE ABSOLOUTLY HORRORFIED..-

[@Disaster-zone]

The fact we get to see Logan respond with “coffee.” Despite the fact we know he barely took a few sips of it before replacing it with wine made my day.

[@theshoutingdudes1528]

Logan: You know they aren't sentient Thomas: [Still grabs Keyblade]

[@goatmanhasfallen7685]

I'm gonna cry, the expression on Logans face and the way he held his notepad to his chest just broke my heart.

[@keeleybeer7163]

same

[@watermelonwiki3540]

Same. I just wanna give him a hug and sit down and listen to him because he just needs more love

[@midnights2631]

Same, I want to hug him

[@whitecray0en]

i just wanna give him a big bear hug especially cause he’s my favorite

[@blaccoreo3110]

Exactly, it was so sad 💔

[@KraftyKittenz]

I'm loving the custom book cover, "Ignoring Dummies for Dummies, Are nerds in blue ties bothering you?" 😂

[@blaccoreo3110]

IKR like, I need a copy of that 😭

[@echomoon4693]

The attention to detail is amazing

[@thatastastan]

Reminds me of in the game A Hat In Time, when Snatcher is sitting in his house, he’s reading the book “how to kill kids” and chapter 1 just has a picture of a knife and chapter 2 is a picture of poison

[@ameliajones4883]

Love that Logan mentioned Apollo. Most people only think of the sun when he's mentioned but in this context it means a different sphere of his control. He was very orderly. Logan mentioning a god known for his order and productivity in an episode where he(Logan) is promoting just that is such an amazing detail

[@lepantheon491]

"Logan. I'm a grown man. I would LOVE to colour."

[@thatastastan]

Mood

[@rachelramone]

We all talking about Logan and the wine, but let’s not skip over Remus and his “dunce” hat then proceeding to belt “All by myself” (OR THE LOGAN ORANGE EYES EITHER-)

[@sooft_9725]

i saw an animatic where logan turned into a dark side, becoming the orange side. and i feel like that theory is gaining more weight and might be cannon. idk

[@Niamh2060]

I loved that part XD

[@remussanders648]

and when he was calling logan to come over and hit him with the wood paddle

[@empresscreations7031]

WE ARE NOT GONNA IGNORE THE FACT THAT LOGAN REPLACED HIS COFFEE WITH WINE NO SIR/MA'AM/MIX

[@parisstar9208]

Also with the orange eyes at the very end. I think this new relationship Thomas is having will result in a cheater since Janus was there. Aka meaning deceit in a relationship

[@loganc.2824]

Uh oh, I smell some Logan character development with that “stop ignoring me” clip. I’m absolutely here for this.

[@acetraineraster5171]

what I smell is Orange Side reveal o.o

[@MultiversalSimp]

Just imagine all the theories. It'll be great.

[@tonialexis125]

What i smell is now that Virgil is now a good side…… a good side (Logan) has to turn to the Dark sides.. ????

[@MultiversalSimp]

@@tonialexis125 Possibly.

[@chaotic_vibz3173]

@@acetraineraster5171 also did we get a possible orange side name reveal? During the end card, Logan mentioned Apollo. It could have just been the Greek god of the sun, but Logan wouldn't be one to call upon aso called "god," especially when it's not one that Thomas would believe in. Idk, I just chose to spitball here, get my idea out.

[@Piixie_Hollow]

What Remus said at 22:30 could mean: 1. Logan could off wanted to shout at the others as they always forgot he was there and make fun of him. This could mean this was the creation of Orange (I believe may be Rage, Revenge or Pain) or Awaking of him. 2. Logan wants to shout at Orange as maybe Orange is kinda like a voice in his head. This is a head cannon:Orange was a Light Side but he was annoying and he left to join the Dark sides.

[@alinaowen2635]

Or, Remus might be implying that Logan specifically wants to yell at Thomas

[@yankedoodles6200]

As someone who *LOVES* cleaning, I really just want to drive over there and clean everything

[@XxCrackHeadxX]

FR 😭 I SAW THE HOUSE. AND LITERALLY DIED💀

[@wolftango6084]

Hey if it makes you feel any better they specifically messed up the apartment for the video and cleaned it right after. :)!

[@anonymouslymj1064]

Seeing that room made me cry a bit on the inside

[@poprocks727]

Remus and Logan are like the kind of roommates who hate each other but can’t leave because they have a lease

[@Goofy_friend]

No they can't leave because they know they improve each other

[@rainbownutz]

@Nathan Stuart get out of here, bridget.

[@stillnotfound2040]

@Nathan Stuart who ask?

[@Chips894]

Lol the arguments they would have “I TOLD YOU TO PAY THE BILL” “ *I NEEDED TO BUY MORE DEODORANT* “ “ BIILS FIRST THEN FOOD YOU HETHEN ”

[@jessicathenobody]

This literally made my day🤣

[@annef0x]

The orange side is most likely to be Wrath as everyone is theorizing. But Id just like to take a moment to appreciate how far this series has come as it literally started with him taking to himself in a room and now its a whole ass miniseries with cinematography!

[@Aku_Karya]

I just kept chanting to myself in my head, "PRIMAL RAGE. PRIMAL RAGE.PRIMAL RAGE!" when i first saw logan snapped.

[@moniquet6017]

I feel like the opposite of logic is insanity thou :/

[@Aku_Karya]

@@moniquet6017 why not both? both make sense. :D

[@Snowolfpup04]

Im kinda thinking its like... intuition or something.

[@lifenugget8619]

Or impulsiveness Since when ur impulsive, you can't think logically

[@alexcameron3354]

Anyone else catch the pun when Thomas was afraid something was in his food. There was an imaginary screw that Remus put in the oatmeal, then a few moments later Thomas proceeds to say that he would be screwed if he choked.

[@whenitgrowsbright]

Oh. My. Remus killed braincells and Janus gifted lawyer obsession. You are a GENIUS.

[@alexcameron3354]

@@whenitgrowsbright 🤣

[@LC-ss8qn]

Okay but Janus. Deceit. A snake. In a tree. Biting into an apple. SAYING "everything is just... fine." I CAN'T IT'S SUCH A GOOD SHOT AHHHHHHHH Also, Remus said "Speaking of honesty, recently a snake offered me a morsel from the tree of knowledge" in his intro song with Janus's silhouette- this whole thing is a really cool theme, Janus is my favourite character for so many reasons :)

[@LC-ss8qn]

@@alisond929 Wait how did I not notice that- that's actually such a cool detail! Thanks for noting :) My theory as to why everything isn't actually fine: Thomas feels like he has to force the relationship with Nico despite not knowing him that well and maybe not having a ton of feelings (hence Roman pushing for things to happen in the relationship while none of the other sides seem to know anything about Nico at all). No idea what the orange side will be though or how that'll tie in.

[@LC-ss8qn]

@@alisond929 I'd definitely agree on Orange being wrath/rage/anger of some sort! The way Logan's eyes flashed orange though makes me think that maybe Orange is possesses the other sides in some way? Or maybe he gets channelled through them somehow, like some sort of spirit? Could be interesting, just a thought

[@MandaRenegade]

Logan: do you remember cognitive distortions, Thomas My brain: COGNISANT DISPORTIONS

[@hazimesahe]

Hagendaz Disportions

[@cmd0317]

Getting close: cognitive distortions

[@Fiondra]

Gettin further away.

[@bluescreen237]

Gognizant dispopoportiooon

[@leiffff]

almost

[@romanisthehero8307]

“ah look the closet is BEGGING you to be organised. you see it’s a humorous remark because closets aren’t sentient.” yeah logan. it was funny don’t worry. /srs

[@lucysmith116]

Yeah we’re not gonna forget how cool you are don’t worry😎

[@princessthyemis]

I loved that 🤣

[@thechaosdragon]

14:10 Remus' random good "ooo" between being stabbed is just gold

[@lovekiyo2352]

I expected the other sides to appear... like, Virgil when the door was open (like, THAT was quite a panic attack) or Patton when Thomas was so low and sad about being alone. Or Roman when "Disney princess puzzle", heh. Logan handeled it all very well alone... as always. He's the best 😔. Oh, and... do we know when will the next chapter come out?? I'm sooo intrigued. Lil fun fact: I came here to try to distract myself bc someone is not answering my messages (one of my uhhh three friends) and istead i ended almost crying bc I feel same as Logan. Yay...

[@datgaydangernoodle1315]

No-one: Literally no-one: Duke: *puts a wiener on a skateboard*

[@saguarovoiceschoir6031]

That was my favorite part

[@WeedzTyphoon]

The glizzy be rollin

[@nerddmg]

@@WeedzTyphoon "they see me rolling, they hating"

[@rhealord2691]

His pouty little stomp when it didn't work 😂

[@captainravioli5505]

among all the comments theorizing about the orange eyes and such, is one light in the dark. wiener in a skateboard.

[@rozieredz]

Wait... is Remus craftier than we give him credit for? He was making it out like he was trying to bring down Thomas the whole day, but in the end, it was Logan that had the breakdown...

[@theantagonist2589]

Don't forget. Remus is Creativity as well.

[@mossman15]

@@theantagonist2589 To be fair they are both Thomas, Remus was actively bringing down Thomas by bringing down Logan, it's just that Logan didn't see it coming, which is a bit ironic considering tactical battle strategies should really be in his wheel house

[@mossman15]

oops definitely meant to reply to OP but hi The Antagonist

[@rozieredz]

@@mossman15 That would probably be his forte in a proper battle, but Logan seems to be more focused on "cooperation for maximum efficiency". To his thinking, he's not in a battle, he wants to work *with* Remus and the others, and his priority isn't "winning" but it's giving Thomas the best life he can within his own capabilities.

[@orbweaverx]

I think it's more interesting that Logan acknowledged that whatever Remus was trying to do could help Thomas, just that he disagreed with it and wanted to help him differently today.

[@lokievans6680]

He acts these characters so well and has developed them to such a T that I sometimes forget he's acting them all himself. I know it sounds dumb but I see them and think "Thomas is talking to Logan" not "Thomas is 'talking' to himself playing the character Logan". TL;DR: Great acting, amazing characters, love the audio work and the cinematography! Edit: I love how elabourite Remus' schemes are, really ties in how a tangent of thoughts can spiral into intrusive ones (speaking from experiance at least, idk about others)

[@mikacookiegaming1294]

I HAVE A THEORY!!! I think the orange side might not be a new side at all! I mean, itd be freaking cool if it was, but I think it could just be Logan finally cracking under everything and lashing out, like how Patton turned into a giant frog when things got too intense in Selfishness VS Selflessness Redux!

[@emodoggo1643]

Break, my dude. Break Logic

[@jakoblent4694]

Imagine Orange and Logan being Jekyll and Hyde type of situation its 1 body with 2 characters

[@Fynchfire]

well...yeah but then, why would they show an orange profile in the putting others first thumbnail

[@jakoblent4694]

@@Fynchfire he can still be his own side and own design but canonically hes just like Remus and Roman before the split ya get me?

[@Fynchfire]

@@jakoblent4694 Yeah true or, what if he could become the orange side if he gets angry enough?

[@Aaa-fr1iv]

LOGAN NEEDS A RAISE, HE WAS HELPING THOMAS EVEN WITH HIS SCHEDULE AND THEN GETS LEFT AT THE END AND THEN ORANGE EYES AND THEN JANUS AND HOLY CRAP IM DYING

[@eli8680]

#GiveLoganARaise

[@lesbianfander2085]

Janus? when did he come in?

[@lesbianfander2085]

OMG THE ENDCARD

[@izichgg2675]

#GiveLoganARaise

[@melodyplayz7988]

@@lesbianfander2085 Is it just me but I can’t hear what Janus is saying- is that on purpose or are my headphones messing up?

[@ENlGMA]

I feel so bad for Logan. He's constantly ignored/disregarded, assaulted and he's just trying to help. I could feel his pain when Thomas went to meet with Nico

[@YuriPlisetskyKinnie]

Assaulted

[@kirakaia]

I love the irony of your comment and your pfp cuz yes you are so right and they are so Cassandra-ing him right now!

[@watermelonwiki3540]

Same

[@_amongthe_stars]

It's the fact I almost cried during the scene of Logan standing alone in the apartment

[@crazyleber0185]

Fr I felt so bad for him

[@KoutaNauman]

Video: Content Warning Me: Ah, Remus is back.

[@simonscar_7857]

16:13 "Looks like someone is getting fired up!" Foreshadowing.

[@Jackie-McCann]

Someone on Tumblr pointed out that if you look at Thomas’s phone, the date says *April 20.* That means chronologically, this happened only _a week_ after "Putting Others First". No wonder tensions seem so high between the Sides, especially in the end card. Everything that happened is still very fresh in their minds.

[@cmd0317]

Not to mention it’s 420

[@arighostea]

@@cmd0317 the only thing that matters

[@kingofwhatever1544]

That's so clever, holy heck they put a lot of detail into these episodes-

[@winterling223]

How come Virgil seemed touchy with Patton, tho? Virgil had no participation in that episode. Maybe he was told about it later, and he’s taking a side? Ngl, if he is, and it’s seemingly against Patton, then it would have to be Roman’s side, which could also explain why they seemed to be getting along in Flirt or Flight. Which would be adorable, cause like, PRINXIETYYYYYY

[@kingofwhatever1544]

@@winterling223 I think it's more because he's still sort of mad about Patton treating him like he's younger than the rest, but I also can't imagine he wasn't aware of what happened in POF since everyone else (meaning Remus) seems to be?

[@loligooshimai]

Ooooh the cut from “who do you really want to scream that at” to Logan turning as Niko says “Mr Sanders!” Is just *chefs kiss*. I really love the question cut to answer edits.

[@sagittarius1687]

N-nico?

[@jjaybbird]

I JUST NOTICED THAT OMG

[@galaxyboy1431]

@@sagittarius1687 Nope, Logan wants to scream that at Thomas or "Mr. Sanders"

[@crescentmoon5859]

@@galaxyboy1431 and the other sides who ignore him

[@nesnibila4888]

Thomas - having several consecutive breakdowns Logan - immensely stressed Remus - playing

[@janeoathdragon5793]

I can only imagine how many dominos and home alone style traps Remus must have in his room

[@phoenixinferno9215]

I really like that when Logan is trying to reason with Remus, he explicitly mentions that Remus's role has value and will come in handy eventually, because it's the same lesson the sides had to learn when it came to Virgil.

[@greekfreak1436]

I think that’s exactly what Remus wanted him to say, because Logan wants to feel wanted and Remus is trying to get Logan to express those feelings

[@alexjewett7455]

What exactly that role is remains to be seen.

[@princessthyemis]

Finally someone mentions this!!! I am so confused??? How can intrusive thoughts--Remus's function--be GOOD??????? Or he can be useful somehow?!??!

[@greekfreak1436]

@@princessthyemis the intrusive thoughts are letting you know that you aren’t addressing something. If you’re ignoring something important, intrusive thoughts come to slap you and point you in the right direction

[@greekfreak1436]

The thoughts are also blunt and unfiltered, forcing you to look at unpleasant truths

[@annedalton9054]

Remus made a huge mistake showing Logan the list because he was just giving away what he was gonna do. That is how Logan was able to stop the things happening.

[@magsML122]

didn't notice

[@dianahoffmann5423]

That is true but with Remus' unpredictability it could have all been a trick even doe he isn't much of a liar so he could have if he would have done it more elegantly caught Logan in a paradox of did he say the truth or not but luckily Logan is too smart for that

[@echomoon4693]

Oml I didn’t even realize that. Such a wonderful detail!!!

[@yufaelia]

I thought the list was supposed to be Thomas' to-do list made by Remus? Cause he said Thomas was "double booked," meaning Re already had a schedule for Thomas. Why would Thomas' schedule be to make those traps?

[@annedalton9054]

@@yufaelia It was just a theory and I was saying it could like say something like (Thomas gets stabbed) Just a theory

[@voidbloodrose]

Logan saying "Shake what ya mama gave you" had me wheezing on the floor

[@Cryptic_Frog0]

Logan is honestly one of my favorite sides, he’s like the strict friend but he just wants to help you the best he can^^

[@doodlesanddesigns1232]

@ me realizing that Logan is showing Thomas the *other sides* coping mechanisms… Roman colors, Patton does puzzles, and Virgil listens to music.

[@noelle4159]

I... didn't realize that. Thanks for pointing it out

[@ronaleelopiga2927]

Funny thing is... I just noticed that the first color Thomas took is a RED one!

[@pinkrose8272]

The puzzle thing could actually be a call back to the Q&A video though because Logan's answer to a question like "how do you like to relax after a hard day?" is puzzling. But liking puzzles fits both Logan and Patton's personalities. So you could be correct.

[@irisdejong9787]

OMG

[@eviepercle4563]

Yeah, and the color he chose was red, the puzzle he did was Disney, and the color that appeared with the music was purple!!

[@CoolioCats614]

This actually was heart breaking. Logan was doing his best for a middle ground, especially knowing Remus' was scheming since the beginning (or at least since he found Thomas in the bathroom) and did his best using methods undoubtedly either Virgil, Patton or Roman suggested/showed him. But from what I saw no one mentioned how Janus' words at the end are a huge red flag. Once again, Thomas is deceiving himself. Before it was about Deciet's existence. Then it was about Patton's stability. Now it's Logan and OH BOY A STORM'S A BREWING

[@sino3318]

also the whole roman/janus situation at the end of putting others first. seems like everyone forgot about that- all the sides are fucked up. a storm is coming indeed

[@CoolioCats614]

@@sino3318 Not to mention Patton and Virgil still seem to be at odds

[@Goofy_friend]

@@CoolioCats614 Why is it that Virgil seems to be trying to be mediator and suppress what he's actually feeling? he's rarely letting things slip. Patton is being completely blinded by himself and V recognizes it. he's recognizing the red flags and is trying to stop the storm that could ruin Thomas' life. It's not only dangerous for him, but the danger for the other sides and Thomas seems to be getting worse by the second.

[@CoolioCats614]

@@Goofy_friend It's hard to say if this is before or after the Redux considering Janus seems to be where he can't be seen and Roman and Patton seem to be on decent terms. So this very much could be the lead in before then, but it's hard to say when either the recent Asides took place exactly. Though could be safe to assume it's why Virgil wasn't in the Redux to begin with

[@manbemel]

@@CoolioCats614 It's after the Redux. Thomas and team said that, unless they specify otherwise in the episode, all the episodes of Sides and Asides take place in chronological order of publication

[@thenamesangeldontwearitout7783]

I'm sorry but remus's little walk at 11:25 has me dying 🤣

[@Fynchfire]

SAME

[@Kaylee-Bear]

Okay, idk why, but Remus doesn't seem like his own character. He's like a blank slate. He's an amalgamation of the worst parts of everyone else. Remus's statement in his introduction episode of "you made me this way" makes me think that he's just kinda going along with thomas's situation, and is just a reflection of him. Not like everyone else is. Roman called him a "funtime mirror," and I think that's all he is. He has no personality of his own really. He's what everyone makes him out to be, more so than the other sides.

[@itz_liv2361]

Nobody: Not even Roman: Not even a drop of Water: Remus: *ALLLLLL BYYYYY MYSELLLLLLLFFFFF*

[@itz_liv2361]

@Vaxerious I love that one too 😂😂😂😂😂

[@thatastastan]

Can we just appreciate Thomas’ singing as Remus

[@jakman8515]

ALSO SOOOOOOOOOOOOAPP

[@thatastastan]

@@jakman8515 I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE KNIFE BUT THE SOAP

[@whitecray0en]

S O A P

[@s.s.suzuki4548]

My heart broke when Logan was just standing in the apartment all by himself when he tried so hard and was meeting everyone halfway like even talking to Remus to find a middle ground...Im so sad, i just want to hug Logan so bad...I also feel this so much right now, i have so many chores to do and im gonna go and work through as much as i can! For Logan!

[@Hi_Mom_Ily]

I literally sobbed because Logan looked depressed AF-

[@lexlol6584]

this is exacty how i feel ajsdjkhd i really wanna hug Logan TT

[@leowoni]

FOR LOGAN!!!!

[@ayannahf0702]

He has come so far, and is able to acknowledge when Thomas isn't in the right headspace to think logically so instead of trying to force him to think logically he gives him something to relax and get back to that positive headspace to then do what they need to. But then the other sides and even Thomas sometimes will ignore him, tease him, and just argue against him. Poor boy : (

[@melodys9188]

me tooooo im so sad 🥺 i hope we have a thorough plot with him like we've had the other sides

[@bedrock30_40]

Logan immediately tossing out his coffee and pouring a cup of wine is hilarious

[@AngryDemonCat]

23:18 I wonder if Thomas's house when dirty is how Remus's room is like?

[@WolfLykaios]

Can we appreciate how everything that Remus does is a perfect representation on how intrusive thoughts snowball when you leave them unattended and how one intrusive thought creates a domino effect of intrusive thoughts.

[@communist_oranges]

I didn't even notice that!! Thank you kind stranger for assisting me in appreciating this artistic masterpiece to it's full glory!!

[@megan8992]

Yes exactly!!

[@edmcsteve2156]

Logan: logic Roman: creativity Patton: morality Virgil: anxiety Janus: deceit Remus: the reason we have content warnings

[@fnafworks6228]

Logan as well because i get the feeling if orange is anger/wrath and logan is going to be the orange side he wont be that nice anymore.

[@JayJay-wc5ov]

wait....janus?

[@naqidoesps4860]

@@JayJay-wc5ov in the episode before selfish v selfless redux (or maybe it was that episode) it was revealed that deceits name was janus

[@JayJay-wc5ov]

@@naqidoesps4860 ya, i looked it up and just finished watching it! it is 3:30 in the morning for me and I am tired so now my brain hurts and I didn't really understand much of it but it was good! thanks though

[@claireschelling3406]

Hotel? Trivogo.

[@SaikiKFann]

You know it’s gonna be a good episode when there is a content warning

[@kingofwhatever1544]

Seriously djdndjdjdns

[@persefoniajax]

Love how unnecessarily complex Remus is.

[@princessthyemis]

Unnecessarily??

[@leahkloostra1899]

as someone who pays accidentally notices teeny tiny details, and who overthinks things, imma just say that the background of the messy stairs was brilliant. it was FILLED with green. littered with it basically. green is Remus's color as we know. and the room is littered with it. Thomas's mind is littered with intrusive thoughts. just really cool. edit: HOLY CRAP I HAD NO IDEA THIS WOULD GET SO POPULAR!? AHHH HI LOVELY HUMANS

[@caseyoung1527]

That's awesome I didn't even notice the symbolism there!

[@rhealord2691]

I noticed that too!

[@_dizzyp0p_]

You are too smart for my baby eyes-

[@itsinevartable3207]

Oh and his friends fading from the pictures when he was lamenting about how he’s all alone? So cool, loved that detail

[@fanofeverything5421]

YOU NOTICED IT TOO HAVE YOU ALSO NOTICED THAT THE ENTIRE APARTMENT WAS FILLED WITH PAT VIRGE AND ROMAN AND ONLY SMALL PEICES OF LOGAN DID YOU ALSO NOTICE TEH GREEN OBJECTS REMUS CONTINUEUSLY USED FOR HIS CONTRAPTIONS i def recommend a second or 4th look see

[@orphanobliterator9373]

Logan's eyes.... Uh, THAT opens a whole new WORLD of possibilities

[@candykane8474]

Rage mode

[@scocopat457]

did u notice they were orange? one of the colors that hasn't been a part of them, red for roman orange for no one yellow for deceit light blue for patton dark blue for logan purple for virgil what's missing is pink and orange, my theory for a long time has been that virgil has split just like roman into anxiety and paranoia I'm thinking maybe logan is splitting too?

[@semisentiententity5486]

@@scocopat457 that actually makes sense because one of the things orange represents is ambition (I think). Since Logan is so set in getting this done at certain times, I wouldn't be too surprised if he were to get out of hand and split up.

[@miriamlang4373]

It’s the dark side of rage or wraith, showing its presence in the one side that’s been building up to a break, I’m so glad they’re introducing the new in the next sanders sides!

[@orphanobliterator9373]

Frick y'all are right- this is so EXCITING

[@insertchannelname1223]

The way Thomas says "listen to me" and Logan says "stop ignoring me" 👌top tier

[@loremipsum303]

This video was really helpful for me in coming to terms with my paranoia and intrusive thoughts. I worry about people hiding my dorm room when I'm out at night, but the coping mechanisms shown and just knowing I'm not alone makes it a little easier to live with. Thank you for putting content like this out there!