workplace mobbing

[@knowledgeisthepower1]

One of the most disturbing things about this behaviour is that the people involved will somehow believe that they haven't done anything wrong and the person targeted 'deserved' it!

[@richardschwindt6588]

That is certainly one of the defining characteristics of workplace mobbing. It is often found with a great deal of sanctimony and righteousness. This is both terrifying and disorienting to the target. "Good People" united against them.

[@Leee.467]

And when target reacts. gets aggressive. Then They crazy....

[@Morgan24_7]

This is true, but I believe in karma and I believe in God. He saw ALL of it and it will be brought up when they face him.

[@iheartlol90]

That’s exactly how my bullies thought. The manager enabled them. It feels so unjust and like your voice is taken away.

[@gusgrizzel8397]

Someone once said that stupid people have to find someone to blame. I think that is true, and how the bully operates. The good worker is usually the victim. Most management will see you as the problem. The bully will deny everything. Going to HR is the worst thing you can do.

[@jennysmith2746]

Gus Grizzel So true. Sometimes management goes along with the mobbing/bullying. There should be laws against this workplace abuse.

[@MarionetteMuse]

100%.

[@gusgrizzel8397]

@@jennysmith2746 Yes, clique mentality. Many will subjugate their true values, in order to be part of a group. It's too painful for many to not be accepted by the group, so they go along with a lot of bad stuff.

[@MissAstorDancer]

Narcissistic bullies pick their targets carefully. They target not only the best and brightest, the most competent, well-liked and most ethical, but also the most vulnerable. Like vultures, they learn to identify the employees who are ethical, who care the most about doing a good job, and they find the vulnerabilities of that worker. It is the worker caring for a sick mother, or any number of other vulnerabilities, that gets targeted; the one who cares the most, and needs the job the most

[@jennysmith2746]

Unfortunately, I am currently the target of mobbing in my workplace.

[@joelee5875]

M.A.D. So very true, I answered you because this irony seems to speak to me.

[@supermelodia]

@@jennysmith2746 You have a solution for that. talk to me in private.

[@supermelodia]

Exactly.

[@ckbrad981]

Man,you hit it right on the head,I've got sick parents and a sick wife,depending on me,HAVE to have the insurance,quitting is not an option,they are all depending on me,and some coward has the entire company all hating on me,for four years it's all I can do to drag myself into work everyone knows what is going on the bosses included and they all think it's funny every new employee that comes in they make sure they tell them all the bullshit about me.i don't even know if I could get another job with social media and what these cowards spew.How can people be such cowards!

[@luclongly529]

My work place mobbing followed me home 🏡 I even found out that my own government and family participated in it, it's also called "GANGSTALKING" a.k.a. zersetzung 😢

[@XQzix]

Workplace mobbing also has infiltrated social processes by groups in society as well. There are groups, organizations, and cults that mob people as they go around and do their normal activities of daily living. It is done very subtly, and the perpetrators of such can always have the fall-back argument that they were not doing anything in particular. Once the target becomes "sensitized" to the triggers thrust upon them, they the perpetrators destroy their chosen victim mercilessly.

[@rgschwindt]

I think that mobbing behaviors are universal but are more common where there is an expectation of job security. Put simply, if there is no legitimate way to get rid of someone perceived as a threat (ie honest, innovative, nice employees) jealous inviduals will forment hatred towards the target through rumour, insinuation and undermining. Don't forget there are routine management procedures for dealing with underacheivers and difficult employees. Be wary of any departure from these processes.

[@rgschwindt]

Thanks for the comments, folks. What we call bullying is more often mobbing and rarely a "one man" job.

[@999timepass]

Yes Hope you're well, Richard ? This video was posted over a decade ago.

[@notsonap5981]

That is the tactic they used on me. In order to get my job completed I had to interact with them to resolve the problems they created. Communicating with them was required to resolve these problems. My attempts to Communicate to resolve problems were all branded Harassment.

[@lken14]

Yep, that is how it goes. They push until you fight back and are labeled or leave. Been there, done that.

[@reesedaniel5835]

Satan's Catch 22.

[@shamen2005]

I completely agree with you. I was subjected to work place mobbing when I worked for an email company in 2010. Since then it has been extremely difficult to find jobs. Even If I find one, they find a way to sabotage it. Today, it seems like it is impossible to find another job. They ruined my personal and professional life.

[@joelee5875]

shamen 2005, don't consider yourself or your career ruined, only if YOU consider these thing ruined will it be so, have some self respect and some strength and refuse., and insist. Good Luck.

[@rgschwindt]

My book is out now. "Emotional Recovery from Workplace Mobbing" is available on Kindle, Kobo and all major E-Readers for $3.99.

[@uriituw]

If I turn around and walk out the door, I have no income.

[@gusgrizzel8397]

It's always the people who have never been in this situation who say to just leave. The reason it is bullying, is because you can't just walk out the door. It is very hard to find jobs. A lot of advice isn't based on reality.

[@tutsecret499]

It's so true. I fall on all this category you said. I am being mobbed for the last 17 years. and now I am taking actions lawsuit, etc. The victims you said walk away is because they don't know about their rights, and they don't have enough information.

[@tutsecret499]

@Matija Rupčić Report to HR in writing, and then follow up. If they avoid and do verbally, take notes, them email saying, per our conversation, etc. If you have meeting with them, never go alone, ask for the Union to be present. Remember, if they have problem with you, they keep records-journal, so you, if you have problem with them. You have to make a journal. write everything date, time, people witness present, the offense, the talking. If HR does not take proper actions to repair, get legal intervention. Never allow co-worker, boss bully, abuse you, mobbing, discriminate you, you know when it's happening. You see the signs: retaliation, transfer, termination, promotion, development sabotagem, etc. In the meantime do your job at your best, dont give reason for them to complain about you. So what they are doing to you?

[@ltraltier6009]

HR? Are you trying to speedrun your way to being fired? They are not there to protect you and will get rid of you immediately.

[@crcajo]

I've been going through this since day one of employment 22 months ago. I didn't even realize what was going on for months and then when i did, I was fearful of reporting it and embarrassed at the same time. It went on fir so long, I finally went to my supervisor and of course, it has gotten worse. Suicide ideation now consumes my "quiet time" and I no longer enjoy doing the things I love.

[@LIVdaBrand]

I'm being mobbed. I just laugh cause they are haters and document everything lol. Never let me see you sweat

[@obelix703]

I was on the receiving end of this treatment a couple of times. I actually came out on top the second time, but that's only because I recognized what was happening and acted accordingly.

[@Yo-kl2en]

obelix703 fight it. Expose it

[@ActivismOfCare]

I can relate in some ways. I was a graduate student at The University of Texas at Austin. And nobody there wanted to admit to their biases or bigotry. So instead I became the targeted scapegoat blamed for dozens of small mistakes while the blamers could make many mistakes and then get promoted. At nearly every department there was some foolish and hostile administrator or professor trying to belittle or offend me or trying to obstruct my freedoms.

[@unlockyourstarz]

Thank you so very much for making this video and explaining what work place "mobbing" is - Unfortunately I am the target of workplace mobbing and it has been very difficult to explain the situation to anyone who may be in a position to offer support. Thank you for validating that this is real and for validating my feelings.

[@supermelodia]

Everything you said happened to me. All the faces of the mobbing happened to me by more than 15 people: the masterminds, the followers, the watchers(the ones on the top of the fence). it looks like the mobbers graduated with PHD degree because they do exactly everything described on the mobbing books, news and other victims. Get a lawyer and a psychologist, not a psychiatrist, and the will back off with the tail between their legs like a dog, not because they changed their ugly heart; they are just keeping up the appearance because now they are under the radar, they will respect now by fear and by affecting their wallet, but they will lie a lot in front of the judge saying they did not feel or the meant to do something wrong. Yes they meant to harm, because they treated everybody else normal, except me, and I never harmed them, and why abusing me?, I got discriminated, ostracized, harrassed, etc since day 1 I started working there, almost 20 years they abused me. Now I got a lawyer to stop the abuse, this brutality

[@MrPG1668]

I was mobbed and forced from my workplace after 27 years.More like forced retirement.I was lucky that way at least I'd get a reduced pension.That was 5 years ago and I am still haunted with the memories and dreams.I am damaged and right now and do not enjoy life.We need education and discussion on this matter..A few people mobbed never figure it out.For me I was put in an area in front of a computer and given nothing to do..for many months.I discovered through Google what had happened to me.

[@mwintersweet3538]

Philip Grouchy I'm sorry to hear that. i hope you are doing well now. good luck!

[@reesedaniel5835]

They marginalize you in hopes that you will quit. This is happening to my husband at his job right now. And he was one of the best and most loyal employees they had. The management is behind this. They hired a narcissist middle manager and he "infected" the upper management with his demons and turned them against the long time, higher paid employees.

[@rgschwindt]

These situations almost always run against an organizations best interests. It can be very difficult to be innovative or keep your integrity in the midst of misdirected blame. That said, Janice Harper has noted that mobbing is never about issues but about power and emotion. I wish I had a better solution than "flee" but in most cases that is the best solution. Sometimes my clients escape when they transfer or the person spearheading the mob is promoted.

[@Astair32]

I have witnessed this and experienced this in every j.o.b I have had. Rather worryingly this was prevalent and more violent in the British army where I was gang-stalked by a group of older recruits (I was eighteen at the time). It is also becoming more common as social boundaries are being stripped away. The only way that I could think of ridding myself of it was to become self-employed and starting my own businesses. For those of you who are experiencing this my advice would be to find a group of colleagues to befriend (in my experience those who are considered loners or who are perceived as easy targets get picked apart by psychopathic nihilists).

[@truecrimes1435]

This happened to me before, where a group of gangstalkers organized a thirty day harrassment campaign against me. They all seemed like they were some other species, like a group of vampires or something like that. People that harrass people are mixed with animal DNA and that's why they have such a predatory nature. Somewhere in their family tree lies crossbreading with wolves. You can see this in their group think or hive mind behavior. I know it sounds crazy, but this is where you learn to separate them from you and treat them accordingly.

[@ltraltier6009]

I dont know why there are a lot of random non-advice posts like this that have become aggressively shilled while they laugh at anyone who actually listens to this bullshit.

[@rgschwindt]

God knows I wish this was a quaint lesson in social studies instead of an accurate description of how I lost my career, health and mental health. That said, you are right - the people who do this and certainly the people who did this to me will face no accountability. We need to understand the dynamics of this phenomenon and promote workplace culture where cutting one individual from the pack and abusing them psychologically in unacceptable.

[@wendybryan9856]

This is exactly what is happening to me!! I feel very anxious and i am struggling to cope. Until i saw this i felt like i was losing my mind. My working life is an absolute misery. Even the managers seem to be involved and im frightened to speak my mind as this seems to back fire on me.

[@l.d.m.33]

What ever happened?

[@gilsand9900]

I'm sorry that you went through this yourself. Your video certainly comes across as heartfelt and knowledgeable.

[@2late4glen]

Thanks for this Richard. Mobbing is alive and well in Australia - after 20 years of a highly successful, passionate and popular academic career I decided to fight back and say enough is enough... unfortunately that just spread the mobbing as more and more senior managers covered up the situation beneath them. Freedom of Information legislation has helped a bit, but I'm sure the University has managed to prevent certain things coming to light.

[@rankosimrakovic7427]

Thanks Sr a lot. I was suffered bullying,humiliating,mobing.

[@thetruthisoutthere32]

Some people understand it really well and have perfected it for use to their own advantage to help acquire and maintain power through fear. You can't get to the heart of this problem without understanding they entire arsenal of weapons that are used in conjunction with work place mobbing. It is cultural, as you said, and it is spreading like a wildfire across this great nation of ours.

[@MegaKarume]

Thank you for the video. It's exactly what I'm experiencing...

[@thomasf.9869]

What happens to an organisation when the target leaves? Does it fall apart? Do the perpetrators start quarrelling among each-other? Identify a new target?

[@mikejones9906]

They’ll complain about the extra Work but that will only be until they find someone new. They don’t care about you because you’ve done something to offend them. That’s what the target doesn’t understand, most people are only good people when they have to be.

[@sheilaw12]

Dear sir, you have spoken the truth...it seems hopeless, but this is the message we need right now.

[@Lovetruth99]

Blessings to Richard & everyone!!! These evil,lying, & low-down Bullies will reap, what they have sown!! They use fear & lying to keep people under their control! It's true! Jealousy I was told, play a major factor in my situation! If you are an honest & well liked person by your Clients & most of your Co-workers...then get ready!! Stay encouraged & don't give up!!! It will come back!!! :)

[@gilsand9900]

Thanks for this excellent video. It's very useful. I work in a fairly secure job, and that and the paycheck is what makes me stay. There is an anti-bullying policy, but it's cosmetic. One person was subjected to a lot of backbiting a few years ago, and ended up leaving. Someone in another department has been sent to Coventry, allocated an office away from his colleagues. I try to keep my head down, but that in itself can be seen as a fault. Anxiety and sleeplessness are constant.

[@gilsand9900]

I've just been rewatching this excellent video after an unpleasant experience at a "team event" the other day: disparaging comments/laughter/mockery from a couple of coworkers, one of whom has been unpleasant in the past, and whom I had called out before, the other who I thought was OK, but apparently not. Both in senior positions, though not managers (considered "senior experts" in their fields and therefore entitled to the highest pay grade). As the unpleasant behaviour was done near me when sitting in a large meeting with someone giving a speech, I ignored it and didn't challenge it, but feel foolish (even more so) for not doing so. Realised when re-reading my comment from 8 years ago that it was written a year before I had a complete mental breakdown and suicide attempt, leading to ongoing treatment from a psychiatrist and psychiatric medication. Suicide did cross my mind after this recent mobbing episode but I'm thinking straight enough now not to want to do that to my family.

[@rgschwindt]

Hi, I now have a follow up to my first book called: The Emotional Recovery from Workplace Mobbing Workbook, available on all major e-readers for 2.99.

[@smarke76]

Thank you! Thanks you! So much for this video I’m going thru this right now at my job. The organization going thru a lot due to negligent

[@whitetiggerfam.3125]

I been through this more than one location. I still have not been able to get other jobs having to rely on others for and money

[@seektruth707]

This is so disturbing! It is also truly bizarre. I would be skeptical about this if it hadn't happened to me personally. When you said that people re brand employees as scapegoats and put all of the workplace problems on their shoulders I felt like you were explaining exactly what happened to me. I really wish this wasn't a real phenomena. Thanks for discussing and explaining what this is. I wish more people would talk about this issue.

[@rgschwindt]

That deserves a response. You certainly have my sympathy; when I see targets income is always an issue. I have two thoughts. One, establish how big a price you are prepared to pay in loss of wellbeing and health if you choose to remain. Second; write a safety plan; what exactly you will do if things become intolerable. Even writing it out helps. I tell my clients: I understand why you might choose to stay on a dangerous flight but please take a parachute. Good luck.

[@PMChannel.]

Love the topic and production of your video. It is amazing how information is out there regarding corporate bullying and mobbing. You never know - or knew to put a name to it until research was complete. Since the cost to companies is so deep I wonder why do these incidents continue to happen. Once large complaint can take a company down. Times are tough job wise. People are tolerating intolerable working conditions. Must be other solutions rather than walking away.

[@askyeshka726]

Excellent video! Thank you. Your video covers almost everything that I am presently dealing with. I was wondering if you have any suggestions for a child who is being mobbed by adults in the public school system?

[@richardschwindt6588]

I obviously don't know much about the context but if you want me to shoot me an email at [e-mail] I might be able to share some thoughts. Richard

[@MeYou-rw6or]

I have experienced mobbing on two seperate occasions based on disability. The laws designed to address such issues are veneer in there application and ultimately the culture as a whole requires revoltionary change. Such changes will require both change in legal statutes as will as changes in teachings in classrooms as will as workplace environments. The additudes and social conditions necessary for these behaviors. to take shape a fostered early on in our social educations. It is so deeply rooted in social convention that parents teachers and administrators alike may easily impower team targeting without ever having realized the level of demigaugory that has taken shape through there efforts.

[@NickyM_0]

Richard, this is an interesting comment. Why are victims/survivors of workplace mobbing unable to make them accountable under an employer's liability and duty of care under health & safety laws?

[@tutsecret499]

Get Work compensation if you got sick, and an Employement lawyer.

[@unlockyourstarz]

I understand that you are saying it is best for a victim of workplace mobbing to leave the job - but what if the same situation repeats at the next job? I believe very strongly that there is a person/people who are in contact with my employment references and continue to pursue "new recruits" to continue the mobbing behavior from company to company - so for me - I do not think that leaving is a solution here - leaving has not resolved this issue in my case. Is there anything else that you can recommend?

[@richardschwindt6588]

There is no simple answer to that. What you are describing is a common experience. In the end we have to learn from our experiences and learn about ourselves. There is often something that we can do to present differently at work - not because we deserve mobbing - but because it is empowering to respond wisely to unhealthy situations. There is usually (me included) an element of paranoia after a mobbing in how we now view the wider world. This is because much of what happened was occult (meaning hidden) and now we don't know who to trust. So reality checking becomes a challenge. If often recommend cognitive behavioral therapy for this; it can be very helpful in ordering our thoughts. Good luck.

[@unlockyourstarz]

Thank you Richard - I appreciate your reply and I will follow your advice.

[@richardschwindt6588]

Good luck.

[@uriituw]

That doesn't work. I can get a new job and the bullying follows me. I've never found a workplace without the bullying. Plus, skipping job to job doesn't look good on my resume. I've been asked in the past why there are so many short stints of work.

[@Man-go-Everywhere]

uriituw have you got skills to go it alone.

[@ltraltier6009]

This is the only video on this subject that isn't outright victim blaming. "you're not so innocent yourself" , "blaming everyone but yourself", "you need therapy", etc. When you literally have done nothing negative to anyone at your workplace and yes there are sometimes "people" out to get you at work for literally no reason.

[@richardschwindt6588]

Workplace mobbing is abuse. Full stop. It is NOT the fault of the person targeted. Sometimes, when therapy was well underway, or my client was going to a new job, I did talk about things they could do differently. From a counselling point of view, a person's agency (ability to influence events) is important. But no, the mobbing is never "your fault."

[@klippcb]

Hello, decided tonight to write about bullying at the work I go on, today I was on a farm and a supervisor will open up for the cows that we mochas up from, remove feces from, he decided to mock me with just taking remove one plank of two and said - Now you can run (with wheelbarrow) I felt annoyed but worked carefully on with a coworker anyway. In addition to this, I hear annoying things about my person: dork, and more. (municipality) Grateful for answers. Feel so good! Regards C

[@foxieedee8435]

Excellent video, thank you. I agree that the only solution is to quit: Finally did so after 7 years of this kind of hellish abuse, and am starting to feel whole again! :)

[@hollynapier1473]

Most mobbing cases are younger coworkers wanting to get up the ladder

[@smarke76]

Holly Napier Bull Shit... Its these old hags 4 the most part!

[@TargetedCreole82583]

Well, it's both.

[@TargetedCreole82583]

I'm 36 & have to deal with bossy kids @ work.

[@rgschwindt]

Hi Wendy; I have sent you a few thoughts. I hope you received them. Richard

[@carolstanhope3625]

I am a human trafficking whistleblower,and have worked with a ladies group,in the U.N. Been targeted for 20 yrs,plus.I have to forge ahead,and can't look back.We have to fight for what is right ,even if it means laying down our lives.I experience workplace harrassment,due to jealousy.The people who participate in it,are mostly drug addicts,alcoholics, and gangbangers.I'm cordial,but I don't let anyone get too close.🤔

[@studdruppo]

Good video, can you send this to the CEO of my company?

[@supermelodia]

Send a lawer

[@alphaomega7410]

How it can be addressed and how it can be prevented?! I need some good people whom I can trust and who love their country.

[@richardschwindt6588]

I wish there was a good answer to that. My personal feeling is that change needs to start at the top of organizations and focus on culture, rather than "bad" individuals. The minute you do that you simply recreate the justification for mobbing activities.

[@pinkpearl1967]

Can you recommend a therapist who specializes in workplace mobbing in Toronto? Thanks

[@richardschwindt6588]

Hi, feel free to shoot me an email and I can share a few ideas. Richard [e-mail]

[@pinkpearl1967]

Richard Schwindt Thanks, will do

[@TheAccess3333]

Richard Scwindt Did you experience this yourself at work? This is the only video on your KZbin channel. You could do more you have good insight.

[@richardschwindt6588]

Thanks! I got mucked up on channels and have another one. I have been counselling people targeted by mobbing since this video came out and written 3 books, most recently one on counselling people who have been targeted. And yeah, I did experience mobbing at work. It was awful but pushed my career in a new direction that has been rewarding.

[@TheAccess3333]

Richard Schwindt Same here with your last two sentences. Have you heard of gangstalking? It is an extreme of mobbing where you Also get phone tapped Internet monitored emails watched Stalking 24 seven even out of work such as going to the shop or even Stalking when you move to the another city constant rumors not just at work even outside. When you say mucked on channels do you mean someone has hacked your channels and shut them down? They also turn the targeted individuals against me sometimes. so for example you have interacted with any target online or even on KZbin they will spread rumours to the target so they will no longer talk to me or reply to me when we constantly answered to each other before.

[@TheAccess3333]

Richard Schwindt Dr John Hall is similar. If you Don’t know about gangstalking search in KZbin or Google it there are many targets in that crime and is constantly growing.

[@beehiveear8883]

@@richardschwindt6588 In Toronto, it's been over 25 years, from the days of high unemployment days. Can't get over it, been unemployed. Don't have a life because it's effects are severe now. Many small jobs in a row, after I went to a job what o thought was for me...but the environment was so bad, from day one after the interviewer wanted me to work there fast. But they exploited the 3 month probation after making me the only one who caught them up with overflow and then used the excuse to make it my problem. Need my life back. Do you have any suggestions for therapy? Beyond zero existence gets and no help with social worker. She does not help at all.

[@TargetedCreole82583]

@@TheAccess3333 I wish me & you could connect.

[@rankosimrakovic7427]

We have we who suffered and who still suffering terorizing on work we have spread it and fight for help and our fridom. We have take action. We have create organizations/community's.

[@lken14]

So true.

[@maryfowles807]

This happened to me

[@joelee5875]

First I would like to say, great video, bravo. Secondly I'm afraid that you are wrong on two points, i.e. it is childish and irresponsible to say or for that matter to believe that any adult is "good" one either chooses to be "good" or not ( this being a process and a constant) on the other point, "this" doesn't have to stop and I truly don't believe that it will as there will always be people that will default to being weak and low, but thank you for at least calling them out. P.S. Keep up the good work., and best wishes.

[@MarionetteMuse]

I think HR professionals who are complicit in this behavior should be held liable. Maybe then, they'll take it seriously.

[@anthonykeller3611]

Wow

[@anthonykeller3611]

Yup me

[@sieracki001]

Well, let's get out of the "victim" thinking here and understand why bullying occurs. Because it's REWARDED. Frankly the organizational culture might be an aggressive, competitive one, that rewards backstabbing and other dysfunctional behavior. The thing is you, as an employee, have to recognize this and deal with it. Most of the people bullying you are just trying to fit in. It's more productive to think in terms of what you can do in response. You just might need to leave that company.

[@richardschwindt6588]

Emotional Recovery from Workplace Mobbing now available as an audiobook.

[@richardschwindt6588]

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