World breaks hottest day record for second day in a row | LBC

Monday was the hottest day on record following a record-breaking Sunday, according to preliminary data from Copernicus Climate Change Service, the European Union's climate monitoring agency.
Professor of Energy and Climate Change at University College London Michael Grubb tells Andrew Marr that he's 'not surprised', adding that he believes Tuesday had also beaten Sunday's record.
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[@mightyoss]

Anyone notice the lack of insects?

[@maartenvandam344]

Now that you mention it, yes. No bugs. Not even on the car headlights. Worrying.

[@Skygrey2943]

Yeah, I barely see wasps and bees anymore.

[@tonybarden9187]

I notice your lack of anything coherent to say.

[@javelinXH992]

Yes, very low compared to recent few years. Hoping they took a knock in last years heatwave and will bounce back soon…..

[@rossdavison6526]

​@@c9o8l7i6n5it's not yet too hot there and there's less people in the countryside so they'll still be surviving for now. There's hardly any in built up area's and the country side Stansted south to the southeast coast.

[@elainepettis5075]

When you concrete the earth you can expect the heat to rise.

[@alexcorreia7547]

Exactly.

[@Warbaman]

The worst thing is idiots like my mother who say "the temperature has always fluctuated, we have had ice ages before you know" as if the planet went from volcanoes to ice age and back again within 50 years and not 250 000 😅

[@sarries1]

It is crazy how many people dismiss what Climate experts tell us, as if they somehow know better.Most people seem to bury their heads in the sand or are ignorant.

[@Warbaman]

@@sarries1 they think theyre all in on some worldwide conspiracy to... do something? According to the schizophrenic guy at work its so all the world govenrments run from davos can imprison us in our own homes and tell us how much carbon we can use each day. WHY they want to imprison us though he couldn't tell you

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@sarries1 Climate experts tell us there is no problem, you're the one not listening. The guy above is a cultist, right off the bat he blatantly lied this is the hottest the planet has been for hundreds of thousands of years, losing all credibility, and that's the sort of "expert" you are listening to.

[@tomhannigan2234]

And it still caused huge populations (including humans) to die off!

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@sarries1 Climate experts tell us not to worry actually.

[@raymondchristiansen6851]

The masses will pay for the comfort of the few

[@originalbadboy32]

Even the few aren't going to get away with it.

[@chatham43]

@raymond So what are you moaning about?

[@SisterAbdullahX]

Tell it to China, India, Brazil and the US. Driving the inhabitants of this tiny island further into poverty while those countries continue building coal power plants won’t make the remotest difference to climate change.

[@alansmith4748]

So what do we do? Or are you suggesting we are truly *****

[@DarkHelixia]

​​@@SisterAbdullahX Actually every change does make a difference. Seeing as our island had a large role to play in industrialisation, it would make sense that we again take the lead again in a technological paradigm shift. Furthermore, as one of the richest countries in the world, we purchase a large amount of goods from those aforementioned countries and so have some say in what we choose to import and buy. In the end we are in this together and there's no point whining like a kid in a classroom complaining that the 'other kids are doing it too!'

[@johnrussell3961]

I remember hot sunny summers. Now we have a monsoon season.

[@alanhat5252]

Monsoon is a hot-climate phenomenon...

[@clappedoutmotor]

Check out what's happening to the Atlantic Meridian Overturning Current (AMOC)

[@lisadefries6718]

Melting icecaps ………….maybe. Seriously we need to get our governments to actually DO something NOW not talk about numbers in 5/10/25 years time. Let’s STOP governments kicking the proverbial bucket down the road………………

[@hamishanderson6738]

Medieval warm period, Roman warm period, Minoan warm period.

[@Alex-wg1mb]

Have you checked the gradients of temperature change on these periods and modern one? The rates are cosmic

[@MaxMitch22]

Time to prepare for extremes of all types. We are in a societal collapse phase.

[@toomanyradsin2019]

Watch out for the left windgers.

[@nathanlowe4884]

Watch out for radicals in general I would say 😂

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@nathanlowe4884 Yup, watch out for climate cultists and propaganda like the guy in the video, who blatantly lied we are the hottest we've been for hundreds of thousands of years, and of course LBC didnt even challenge such an obvious lie.

[@patrickporter6536]

Watch out for wingers.

[@toomanyradsin2019]

@patrickporter6536 Sorry, it should be spelt "whingers." 🫡

[@mohsinrao4334]

We are in deep deep trouble folks.

[@rossdavison6526]

​@@GordonDivine7😂 you highlight that perfectly. We are ducked.

[@winstonsmith3690]

I'm hoping that's what they meant. ​@@GordonDivine7

[@mygreatbigfoot1679]

Specially because I’m still wearing a hat and coat at the end of July. I’ll have to get my car running again.

[@andyhulme2274]

Climate propaganda is cover for a celestial body and a large meteorite that were going to know about soon.

[@Winteriscoming...]

Yes we are. The individuals in leadership and those who hold unsanctioned power, will stop at nothing to implement their new economy - one where we all pay more in to their pockets under the guise of 'emergency' and 'necassary'.

[@Droothr]

ELECT MORE RESPONSIBLE LEADERS.

[@rossdavison6526]

The Green party have been making fools of themselves these last couple of weeks. Voting against infrastructure in their local areas that would support green energy.

[@toomanyradsin2019]

In politics stupidity is not a handicap.

[@alanhat5252]

​@@toomanyradsin2019that's our fault 😢

[@philaeon6779]

What for? They are bought by billionaires. If we don´t abolish capitalism we will die for the rich

[@peacheswilliams4539]

That's the same thing i say about our politicians in America, it seems our own politicans are KILLING us all to line their own pockets with MONEY! All because we refused to vote for people who will work for all of our benefit not just their own..We are our own worst enemy....

[@arthurlincoln9093]

We are talking about average global temperatures not what the weather is like in Guildford on any particular day. LBC, the BBC and ITV are not telling people the truth about global warming. You only have read what is happening in other parts of world to understand how climate change is already harming food production, human habitation and human health. And that does not include the damage being done to the natural world that underpins and sustains human civilisation in everything we want. We should all be terrified about climate change because if some human beings keep burning fossil fuels, the entire planet will be tipped into the abyss, into a nightmarish world of climate uncertainty where some people will find life just about bearable while others will be ruined and have to leave where they live to find safety. But not just a few thousands here and there, it will be millions of people seeking sanctuary. If anybody needs to go to jail it should be politicians, lobbyists and the fossil fuel industry who seem deaf, dumb and blind to their crimes.

[@russtaylor2122]

True, Arthur, but people will not vote to be poorer, nor are they going to relinquish their current standard of living for an as yet unborn human, by living more frugally. This supertanker at full speed cannot be turned on a canal of our civilisational direction of consumption. Of course mankind is doomed. The only outcome obvious, which a dispassionate nine year old could see. Hey, don't worry too much, you were going to die anyway, now live what's left with kindness, compassion and empathy...

[@colliehouse3133]

@@arthurlincoln9093 - terrified? Lol 😂

[@longdang2681]

If the warming climate change is already harming human habitation then why has the world population of people increased to new all time highs in recent years ?

[@colliehouse3133]

@@longdang2681 - Don’t ask awkward questions. Their NPC brains go into freeze mode.

[@arthurlincoln9093]

@@russtaylor2122 But they will be. They will pay more for food, more for water, more for insurance and more in terms of their health, both physical and mental. People always think stuff will not happen to them. But it does because guess what, we all live on the same planet with the same atmosphere with nowhere else to go except Mars and Mars is no substitute for our blue and green planet.

[@dmo8895]

All I can say is that Im glad ive not had children.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Yup, because they would have to pay off all the debts of building useless windmills to virtue signal that we can control an ever changing climate.

[@FrankWhite437]

Nobody knows what to do now. We had our chance 30 years ago

[@rhysjaggar4677]

Oh dear, you really do need to educate yourself. For 44 years, the earth has been greening. That's right, it was much more barren in 1980. Whether through planning, design or just letting nature do its own thing, the earth has been starting to heal. If you aren't aware of this, you need to educate yourself away from the MSM. The MSM is not there to inform you, nor to educate you. It is there to make money from you, to brainwash you, to make you feel depressed and useless.

[@Dynasty1818]

We know what we need to do, but money wins. You refuse to stop buying cheap tat, you refuse to stop driving, you refuse to pay for greener sources. Blame the companies all you want buy they only sell what you buy.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

I wonder how you posted this wihout a phone or a computer then....

[@CT-vm4gf]

@@sonofsomerset1695We are all part of the problem.

[@alancooper3473]

66.72 ° F you said, for being a heat record. Hello! 😂

[@gamingtonight1526]

Whenever they talk about the climate crisis, LBC never allows public calls. They spend 5 minutes talking to an expert, and that's it. I can't remember the last time LBC talked about the climate crisis for an hour. Not surprising really, given all their airline and petrol car advertising!

[@blindbrad4719]

I'd rather not hear about people waffling on about cloud seeding and how Net zero is ruining the country 🙄

[@rhysjaggar4677]

So switch off. Don't listen. They go belly up if they don't have any listeners.....

[@blindbrad4719]

@@rhysjaggar4677 LOL, either you think you'd get something constructive from the average man off the street about a complicated issue, or you don't like their other politics and just want them to go belly up. You're not very subtle are you 😂

[@kathri1006]

Desert greening, planting trees everywhere needed. A climate emergency needs to be declared worldwide not wars. All that money diverted towards climate saving acts, thpugh arms sales are the most important exports of major countries. Needs alternate industrial activities. Needs public debate on this as we never speak about arms industry wars and public money spending.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

The deserts are already greening, of course the propaganda media keep that quiet.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

Dear oh dear, go look up basic data on 'greening the earth' since 1980. Forty four years now the earth has been getting greener. Stop watching the global boiling propaganda and go find some hard data from NASA satellites.

[@lifesabeach9451]

The ones who resist fixing our environment hate their kids.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

I say lets spend billions on windmills, doesnt matter if they wont provide enough energy, future generations will have to pay for all the costs of our borrowing now.

[@Jc-ms5vv]

@@sonofsomerset1695 what future generations? The planet is becoming uninhabitable now

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@Jc-ms5vv Then howcome more people are dying from cold than heat?

[@Jc-ms5vv]

@@sonofsomerset1695 what part of climate “change “ do you not understand?

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@Jc-ms5vv The part where people are arrogant or dumb enough to pretend humans can control something thats not even fully understood.

[@martinwilliams9866]

Once the ocean warms up enough & the methane hydrates dissolve, we're dead!

[@john1boggity56]

Yep!!!

[@readmore7180]

Some are, some aren't. The planet has been far far warmer than it is today and life flourished... It may be the end of civilization as we know it now but humans will not go extinct because of temperature rise. We are more likely to destroy ourselves with war or a super volcanic eruption or an asteroid.

[@yousausage]

Nope, the pressure of the sea will only increase with temperature, thus nullifying the issue.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

The planet regulates itself as it always does, there was far more carbon and heat at the time of the dinosaurs and they thrived just fine without any technology to help them.

[@Richard482]

​@@sonofsomerset1695"The planet regulates itself", except for the five known mass extinction events the planet has experienced which have all been linked to a rapid change in climate.

[@jamfen]

Something strange is up with the scottish weather , it has only rained once this year , it started in January

[@rhysjaggar4677]

I can remember a few Open Golf championships held in Scotland under 'drought conditions'. Scotland does have short-term droughts from time to time, you know.

[@andrewjames2814]

It never rains properly anymore and the sun ain't shining!!

[@Mitchell7790]

What? It feels like it hasn’t stopped raining here in the west of Scotland for months. We had one week of sunshine in July and that was pretty much it!

[@jamfen]

@@Mitchell7790 exactly .. my comment says it's only rained once this year it started in January .... It hasn't stopped yet

[@Gruffydom]

We should take up cannibalism rather than veganism. For every person we ate we’d be reducing our carbon footprint by 100%😂

[@timwoodger7896]

Start with the rich! They create a bigger carbon footprint and they will taste better.

[@TheKompromissi]

Ahh, corpse starch. I wonder if medicating people during their lives before being etten would be a problem though? Also, to be clear, this was a joke based on the 40k scifi universe

[@dantapaws8395]

😂 yeah, let's start with the billionaires, far right and oil barons

[@hexenwulfen]

@@dantapaws8395 yeah but who likes the taste of psychopath...yuk

[@taylorsims1506]

@@hexenwulfen you know they say the meaner the person the tastier the meat

[@rdallas81]

Wait until August. Then next year. Then, the year after. Hotter, and hotter and hotter. All will break down.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

It's been so hot this summer, ive almost had to take my sweater off a couple of times, lets panic!!!!!

[@klondike444]

@@sonofsomerset1695 Do you live all over the planet??????

[@WaveOfDestiny]

​@@sonofsomerset1695when it goes 5°C you'll be in panic. I don't get how people so easily forget that problems will get much worse as time passes

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@WaveOfDestiny I'll give you a little spoiler, humnans cant control the climate, no more than we can control the activity of the sun or stop volcanoes erupting.

[@katejackson7432]

we need the elderly t either stop hidingfrom this or stop voting. i know my perents wont talk about it. the way they see it they will be dead soon and dont want t worry about something that wont effect them just make them sad. but still vote and still complain about activism. n refuse t research

[@elainepettis5075]

Ridiculous comment. "If in doubt blame the elderly". That's far better than blaming the real culprits. They are still jetting around I see. Stop voting, who are you to think you can take away their democratic rights?

[@django3422]

@@elainepettis5075 You're missing their point. If the elderly are overwhelmingly voting for political figures who deny or dismiss climate change concerns and continue full speed ahead with fossil fuel projects, then those voters are in-part culprits.

[@Deleted11100]

Never see bees anymore, butterflies which used to be all over the garden, haven’t seen a ladybird for years, wasps I’m not bothered about but they are rare, it’s mental that.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

You should have gone to Spec Savers.

[@Deleted11100]

@@sonofsomerset1695 what a corker

[@terencereeder9830]

You need to get out more Lol

[@petewright4640]

An objective observation: I'm a commercial grower of vegetables. I grow courgettes and courgettes need to be pollinated. This year I'm noticing very poor pollination and so reduced crop. Never had this problem until this year.

[@Deleted11100]

@@petewright4640 it’s sad, must be a nightmare for growers. I’ve noticed loads of ants though which I never used to see many of.

[@Michael0663-qo4wx]

Industrialization in today’s digital era has severely separated mankind from his genetic connection to nature and our ancestral ways. Man has become more like Machine and less like present organism. “Mother Earth” is our true house and “Father Sun” is our most local star we orbit to maintain existence. We will be humbled and horribly forced to reckon with all the environmental damage we have wrought.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

'We': go and say that to the chemtrail sprayers. They are doing masses of harm. We the people, much less.

[@257.4MHz]

"Apes burned the trees and plants" Vorlog looked at the plaque beacon message about Earth "Too bad" he said. "I would have enjoyed a fish"

[@alanhat5252]

Source?

[@Ratboy2004]

Tomorrow will be the third and so on... This year or next will be our ... 😢

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Yeah, if you keep putting snesors in the middle of growing cities of course the temperatures will seem to be rising, satellite data shows there is no change however.

[@richardboland1935]

"Wake up sheeple, its later than you think"

[@Winteriscoming...]

Yes, indeed, wake up media sheeple 🤫

[@sonofsomerset1695]

We should do something really clever, all the smart people lie in front of traffic, protesting about pollution by making more pollution, these are the kind of geniuses we need to listen to!

[@Alex-cw3rz]

This is so depressing.

[@Ironside-fz9vd]

@@Alex-cw3rz Exactly. That's why they're saying it.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Dont worry, this is an end of the world cult, it's nonsense.

[@CT-vm4gf]

I just accept it, it’s the deniers that I don’t understand.

[@alayneperrott9693]

Why are you using Fahrenheit? In the UK, young people like my daughter, who is 37, have only ever been taught the metric system, including degrees Celsius. Climate scientists all work in °C, but are forced to translate their measurements into Fahrenheit l just for Americans.

[@josephdebri8941]

Makes the values higher too. More dramatic.

[@HecticGlenn]

yeah that's definitely the biggest problem to point out on this topic...

[@caterthun4853]

Agree they even talk about inches and weight in pounds.. What is that

[@mandywithell]

4 to 5 years in gaol for Eco Protestors holding up the M25 - 9 years for someone driving a car recklessly at 100MPH, crashing and killing one of his passengers. Make your own judgements!

[@finlayfraser9952]

I didn't mean to suggest that the World is a conscious entity, but that all the different natural processes that take place on Earth will act defensively to external threats, and we are that external threat. I am happy with the descriptor of metaphor

[@adeforeman86]

In other news, water is wet

[@PandoraJonesmodel]

By the time everyone acknowledges the problem it will be too late.

[@javelinXH992]

@@PandoraJonesmodel it doesn’t have to be everyone, just enough to make a difference. 😉

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Do you know what a doomsday cult is? Because you've joined one.

[@deanlowdon8381]

I fear it may already be too late…

[@javelinXH992]

@@deanlowdon8381 Maybe it is. But never give up. Humanity has a long history of pulling together just before the last minute and snatching a victory from the jaws of defeat. The more we do in the meantime, the easier it will be not to lose when the time comes.

[@Jc-ms5vv]

Definitely already to late

[@dinkdankdoo3035]

At least I can fly my private jet, use my yacht and please myself at any whim. I'm privileged. Exempt. Doesn't affect me. I also have a luxury bunker waiting for me when the proverbial hits the fan.

[@jameshill4911]

I now live in country (Italy) with a tropical climate. Whereas we had frosts up until about twenty years ago, now we have none. And two-three months of 37-38-40 degrees every day. And I mean every day.

[@Winteriscoming...]

When did you move to Italy? 🇮🇹 so beautiful

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Maybe you should move to a cooler country then if you dont like it.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

So? Have you studied the climate between 800 and 1800? It had a period called 'The Medieval Warm Period'. Warmer than today. And 'The Little Ice Age', much colder than today. Major changes in temperature over centuries. If you go back further to the Roman Warm Period of 5000 years ago, it was even hotter. Nothing to do with humans, just to do with natural climate variability.

[@jameshill4911]

@@rhysjaggar4677 I’m just complaining about the heat. Didn’t say whether it was man made or not. Just that it’s happening.

[@WaveOfDestiny]

​@@sonofsomerset1695when millions have to move, there will be no more countries that would accept you. The weak will be left behind as always.

[@psikeyhackr6914]

So what do economists say about CO2 production resulting from unnecessary manufacturing due to Planned Obsolescence? What do they say about the depreciation of durable consumer goods?

[@5353Jumper]

Economists are not the best people to ask. They know nothing about sustainable systems and environmental harm. But most people in sustainability fields would say that planned obsolescence is a terrible blight on our society and our environment.

[@psikeyhackr6914]

@@5353Jumper Economists say almost nothing about *Net Domestic Product* . The NDP equation incorporates the Depreciation of Capital Goods but not the Depreciation of durable consumer goods. Funny how they do not point out that omission. It has been omitted since WWII. John Maynard Keynes never saw a television commercial for automobiles. That is probably the explanation.

[@tarquin161234]

It's not about the economists; it's about you, owner of stocks in those manufacturing companies, expecting a return on your investment and for government to not interfere.

[@psikeyhackr6914]

@@tarquin161234 Oh that's right, economists don't live on this planet.

[@SteelExoskeleton]

The international community needs to come together and create laws to protect the globe, and its inhabitents, CEO's of these companies who allow destructive and dangerous behavior must be prosecuted and scentenced for harming the planet and its inhabitent. We need to create a global coalition to protect all life and foster a collective community that encompasses all inhabitents of earth.

[@longdang2681]

With the human population worldwide in recent years hitting yet another all time high despite the rising temperatures, what are these newly created laws protecting people against ?

[@abazely2743]

Britain cannot protect its own inhabitants let alone persuade the other 99.9% of the world.

[@javelinXH992]

@@SteelExoskeleton They have. Then most (not all) the governments that sign up ignore it when it suits them.

[@alanhat5252]

@SteelExoskeleton, you'll be talking about the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), the COP meetings, the Kyoto Protocol, the Paris Agreement, the Bali Action Plan, the Copenhagen Accord, the Cancún agreements, the Durban Platform for Enhanced Action & the Doha Amendment? Canada bailed out because it was facing a $14billion fine.

[@yousausage]

Yeah look how well that worked with the WHO and COVID. You give them the finger and theyl take the whole ....

[@stephenscaife9993]

Must have missed Cornwall somehow😂

[@alanbeaumont4848]

Is Cornwall on another world then?

[@Diamonddavej]

@@alanbeaumont4848 Cornwall is beyond the environment, it’s not in the environment.

[@javelinXH992]

@@stephenscaife9993 It was worried about whether it was cream or jam on top, decided not to risk it, and stayed away.

[@alanhat5252]

@stephenscaife9993, ...and there's the difference between climate & weather! 😂

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@alanhat5252 So howcome LBC and the BBC link any weather events to climate change then?

[@MatthewSmith-j1l]

Why don't the banks et al use the same leverage that they used to drive change with DEI, to introduce a mandatory green production certification for all manufactured goods worldwide?

[@Skygrey2943]

I dont think lip service paid to minorities really costs that much.

[@SisterAbdullahX]

@@MatthewSmith-j1l Because for a start, DEI is discriminatory, and secondly, no goods can be manufactured “green”. It’s a total fallacy.

[@MatthewSmith-j1l]

@@SisterAbdullahX Of course they can. You can manufacture using solar and freight them using sailing ships (or some kind of green energy shipping) / manufacture locally. If the will was there it could be done + we could reduce carbon to virtually nil while still keeping petrol cars

[@SisterAbdullahX]

@@MatthewSmith-j1l That’s the funniest thing I’ve read in a while. Do you actually live in the real world?

[@alanhat5252]

​@@SisterAbdullahXyou don't 😂😂😂

[@jeffhawkins1293]

So let me get this right. A labour government that cares so deeply about the environment, and saving the planet . That is obsessed with Net Zero.... Yet , thinks it's ok to build on much needed farmland and green belt. It's happy for our population to keep on growing ( we already have a population , that is one fifth of the US ) . Major infrastructure projects, to deal with a huge population, will gobble up more open space, and countryside...THIS WILL HAVE A TERRIBLE EFFECT ON OUR ECO SYSTEM, be in no doubt . We need vast areas of open land ,to allow our delicate eco system to flourish and provide life , for us , and our natural habitat. You can't go for Net Zero, then build on your natural habitat, keep on increasing your population.....and expect everything to be ok

[@rhysjaggar4677]

The Labour government cares only about its salaries, brown envelopes and sinecures from donors after they leave Parliament. They are on the gravy train as thespians and they don't care whether you live or die.

[@finlayfraser9952]

Remember the idea of Gaia, the World as a self regulating entity. The World is laying the ground to rid itself of a pestilence, that is us, the human race.

[@chatham43]

@finlay Don't blame it. Just stopping oil won't make an iota of difference.

[@SamuelPyle-t3e]

A load of hippy crock.

[@carelgoodheir692]

@@SamuelPyle-t3e As literal science it is a "load of hippy crock". As a metaphor for what's happening it's spot on.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Wow you just destroyed your own argument, the world does indeed self regulate itself.

[@peacheswilliams4539]

And if we keep on the same path as far as burning oil is concerned, it's going to get even HOTTER!

[@Angel-kf4sg]

Hottest day everywhere but uk and northwest Europe…curse this years poor summer 😩 most of uk have been below average temperatures all through summer so far bar the odd warmer day

[@KaneA87]

The South East was almost unbearably humid the past 5 days

[@robertbunch7829]

It's not weather It's climate !!!

[@ericritchie6783]

Except it always doesn't always get as cool at night.

[@alanhat5252]

​@@robertbunch7829weather is a "chaotic system" - the more energy goes into it the more chaotic it gets 😢

[@EndyMy-z3g]

@@Angel-kf4sg hottest day everywhere but not in Europe or turkey where I live

[@alexanderprice6612]

The population do know what to do, they just don't want to do any of it because it will make their lives more inconvenient.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Renewables are the cheapest form of energy we have it is a no brainer, especially as it relies on what the local area is best for. Rather than shipping in oil from half way across the world, refining it etc.

[@daveball6023]

What planet are you on?

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@daveball6023 just research things before commenting

[@carelgoodheir692]

@@daveball6023 Earth.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

You've been tricked by propaganda, renewables are far from the cheapest form of energy, as the backup thats needed or the manufacture and transport costs are not included in the misleading figures. And guess where all the metals have to come from to make them, oh yes dug out of the ground, to reach a net zero world we would have to dig up more metal than the total that has ever been minded before, far more damaging to the environment.

[@vvwalker7261]

Renewables are intermittent, you have to run 200% of your power for them to work. That makes them expensive and the back up is run by fossil fuels

[@rhysjaggar4677]

'Crisis, Crisis!! Give us $100bn and we can solve it for you!!' And Andrew Marr gets his few tens of thousands for playing along....

[@MirnaMirna-il7lv]

APOCALIPSIS, CHAPTER #16,VER 8,AND 9

[@deco2132]

If you live in the city maybe - I live in a village and there are bees, butterflies, grasshoppers and crickets everywhere. If anything this year I have seen more than ever.

[@WaveOfDestiny]

Definetly a rare sight. Many country siders report much less insects all around the world

[@SmithyD86]

Don't look up

[@Isosto]

There's a clip of an episode of the news room, where a climate scientist comes on and tells the presenter that it's too late, and 20 years ago, all the changes we're suggesting now would have been great. I hope that we're not actually at that point.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Relax, the climate has always changed, we're coming out of an ice age, starting from historically low levels, we should be glad we're warrming and not cooling further, we're just heading back to an average, breaking records that have only been around less than 100 years is a meaningless blip in the planet's history.

[@Isosto]

@@sonofsomerset1695 Option A, I'm wrong (along with scientific consenus), we spend lots of money creating a renewable energy generation system, removing dependence on finite fossil fuels, which still emit harmless particulate pollution. Option B, you're wrong, in which case even the best case scenario is an absolute disaster for most if not all of humanity. Option B would definitely also cost more. Burying our heads in the sand and presuming it has nothing to do with our actions, is not logical.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@Isosto You forget to mention that option A also requires digging up the planet to mine more metals than the total ever mined up until now in history, the massive energy that will need, the energy to to manufacture and transport, as well as creating mountains of unrecylclable waste and pollution. Plus it's far more costly because you have to have backup with reliable power or massive batteries to store energy putting future generations in even more debt and poverty with higher energy bills and taxes to pay off the debts created.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@Isosto As for scientific consensus: "Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.

[@Isosto]

@@sonofsomerset1695 K. So do nothing because it'll cost a lot and make a mess of areas, and the worst scenario happens, billions die, the ice caps melt, the sea rises, global infrastructure collapses, mass refugee migration and wars, humanity loses hundreds of years of progress. Call it choosing the lesser evil.

[@somayyamughal8313]

This is sick.. the weather is getting dangerous every year

[@rhysjaggar4677]

No it isn't, what is dangerous is you believing the MSM. Switch it off, live life listening to nature instead of to windbags like Marr and you will be much, much happier.

[@Tisebb]

Three days of sunshine after months of miserable damp!

[@a13xdunlop]

The planet does not revolve just around you.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

My squash plants have grown less this summer than in the past 5 years. Maybe these three hot days will have accelerated them somewhat?

[@kderules]

Technically we are still emerging from the last ice age.

[@Robcomments]

All countries can do now is build infrastructure that can manage these extreme weather conditions. UK should build 4 new water reservoirs under national security starting up in Scotland and moving down the country with them all being connected so water can be transported to manage floods/heatwaves. Also a big move to insulate older homes. Scrap green tax’s and all that money go straight to new stronger infrastructure. Fossil fuels isn’t renewable so once it’s all gone what happens then.? Tbh I think humanity wipe itself out before that happens but it is an interesting topic that gets no discussion.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

Oh, do get your basic data right. What we need to do is to manage rainfall better. All water off roads into ditches beside the roads. Into sunken roadside growing areas with trees. The problem is not the rainfall, it's the concrete. There's zero evidence that weather in the UK is getting more extreme. Zero. It's just that people like you never go to primary data sources, you listen to MSM lies.

[@paulhinchley3383]

Tax the Gulf Stream 😂

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Thank you for just going to the facts

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Nevermind they made them up huh.

[@nickwhetstone3571]

What does 'hottest day on earth' even mean? More Micky Mouse journalism that is hard to swallow.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

It means that Andrew Marr has instructions from his MI5 handlers and he sings for his supper.

[@robupsidedown]

China knows what to do, and they've been busy doing it for a decade.VERY BUSY. China is not corrupted by oil, though.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Yup, they are busy building more coal power plants to have reliable cheap energy to help deal with an ever changing climate humans have no control over. And profiting from us buying their unrecylable windmills.

[@petero9584]

I don’t know about your country but in mine we don’t have the option to vote in an altruistic politician, ours are all in it for the money….career politicians

[@georgethompson453]

Another record amount of fossil fuel was extracted and used last year and China takes the most and it needs to order to supply the UK and Europe with all those goods ; mobile phones, tv’s, car components which the 2 discussing this have as possessions 🤔

[@revpadma]

51 C in Portugal 2 days running. 😮😢

[@revpadma]

Hello Gordon where are you on our beautiful planet? I hope you are well. I am monitoring ground level temperatures and air temperatures from satellite mapping. I imagine that information is accessible by everyone. Today we have fog here, which I believe the professor said could be one consequence of the elevated temperatures? No doubt you will be able to tell me. Thank you for your interest. Stay cool.

[@revpadma]

By the way, yesterday there was a big fire near me. We could see the smoke. 45 fire engines, 7 planes and over 200 firefighters. They are all heroes. Do you have fire season where you are yet?

[@revpadma]

No it isnt normal. Where do you get your info from? I was first in Portugal 50 years ago. There were no fires or fire season. 2 years ago there were 120 big fires in one day. The air temperature was 47C. Now it's 51C. We still have 57 firefighters here making sure the fire stays out because it travels underground. You suddenly see smoke coming up through the earth, through smoke holes. That phase can go on for weeks. If not doused, the fire will restart. Where do you live? You didn't say ...

[@revpadma]

and your point is?

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@revpadma were you in Portugal 1000 years ago? 50 years is meaningless in terms of world climate, thats like saying it wasnt hot yesterday but its 20% hotter today, panic!!!!

[@Roel922]

I could say move out of earyers with an high population density and move to low populated areas whith cheaper house and land prices where you have the option of generating your own energy and growing your own food both make you independent of fossil fuels and moving off-grid is the only way to do that. What the UN and the WEF wants as solution by putting millions of people in 'smart' cities is NOT going to offset CO2 emmisions but rather INCREASE them!

[@zenco7936]

Main issue is new methane holes getting drilled when old ones aren't plugged correctly. Like it's not even something you can have an opinion on really, corps should be plugging their holes better and we shouldn't allow any new licenses. It makes more sense than common sense.

[@robinrdale8318]

Can we have a debate with scientists from both sides and not just pundits / presenters stating questions from a fixed perspective

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Of course not, how can you brainwash the public if you have top scientists disagreeing with your cherry picked narrative like above, pointing out it was total factual nonsense that "the world hasnt been this hot for hundreds of thousands of years"?

[@deanlowdon8381]

When it comes to the science, there isn’t another side to this.

[@blindbrad4719]

The only other side to this argument comes from those paid big money to say "the right things the employer once them to"…

[@django3422]

Shall we let all of Heartland Institute's paid professors come up and try to convince us that it's not happening, well it is but it's not really to do with us, except if it is but if it is then there's not much point doing anything...

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@django3422 why not, its no different to this paid professor coming on to convince us it is happening and openly lie that this is the hottest its been for "hundreds of thousands of years" despite ice cores proving otherwise.

[@stuartosborne3013]

Boring, it’s also the most people on earth day everyday and it won’t stop. It’s also lowest trees on earth everyday. Oh forgot also the lowest biodiversity everyday as well. But you can’t tax that.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

Just look at NASA satellite data on 'total leaf area' on the planet and you'll find it's gone up plenty since 1980. Things AREN'T getting worse, it's just that you lot believe the MSM instead of seeing them as lying charlatans.

[@somayyamughal8313]

Everybody is worried about their luxury, and nobody bothers about the future

[@rhysjaggar4677]

All you can do is make your own choices. Grow your own food, plant a few fruit trees, make sure your direct rainwater from your roof into soil below your garden. Stop worrying about the whole planet and do what you can. It's the only way.

[@robertjsmith]

The governments are giving a fig

[@nicks4934]

BBC missing this completely

[@mcc5901]

Is this one of those hottest moments ever like we just had the ‘hottest Spring ever on record’ while it is was raining continuously and people had their hearing on at home? Is it one of those records? People wised up after that little propagandist stunt. They really were taking the proverbial then. Hottest Spring ever! 😆

[@CharlesHegarty-d7n]

Gavin Williamson set out a policy paper on dinky toys

[@blindbrad4719]

You should check out who the world's largest toy manufacturer is, it may surprise you.

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

What utter nonsense, records going back to a convenient 1940.

[@PandoraJonesmodel]

It's not nonsense

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@PandoraJonesmodel Its a blatant lie when their so-called expert claims its the hottest its been for hundreds of thousands of years, stop being manipulated!

[@blindbrad4719]

Yes, by the Copernicus foundation 🙄 and although he didn't say it, most of us realise when he said "history" he was talking about recorded history. then there was the "going back hundreds of thousands of years" which is a third level of records, ice cores and fossilised flora et cetera.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

Why do you expect Andrew Marr to tell the truth? MI5 self-serving avaricious, London-centric bike rider, after all....

[@simonaveline5542]

1940 is not ever!

[@johnturner7539]

Due to the increase of wet weather in the uk I have noticed a massive decline in butterfly's, there are a few now but nowhere near the amount we used to have , also the swallows turned up and then went back south again just no food for them , I have only seen one bat this year where there used to be many? it's a crisis that is happening before our very eyes, the honey bees seem to be hanging in there plenty of blooms for them but a lack of bumble bee's. too much evaporation what goes up has to come down.

[@suzyhorrigan1544]

😂 gaslighting little worm

[@danjones8694]

Quoting records that started in 1940 and considering the earth is billions of years old is actually laughable 😂😂

[@chrisspencer6502]

But they don’t the accurate records do but record of from other records stretch back further. Also, anthropologist tell us clearly every human civilisation that tried to ignore climate change that occurred nationally ignored it until their society collapsed.

[@adamkarimian7137]

Which societies?

[@keithw8286]

What’s laughable is the simple minded comments on subjects like this.

[@TheColossalBlanket]

Oh yeah, a bloke named Dan Jones is surely the go to authority on climate change.

[@NapoleonGelignite]

Where do you get the idea temperature records started in the 1940s? You shouldn’t believe everyone TikTok or Twitter.

[@andyhulme2274]

World breaks exaggerating record.

[@alanhat5252]

I'll take the word of a Professor of Climate over some random troll on the internet if you don't mind. 😂

[@DecadeAgoGaming]

Monday crushed sunday's record, and that record will probably be broken too

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Yeah it's so hot in the UK I almsot had to take off my sweater today!

[@DecadeAgoGaming]

@@sonofsomerset1695 you're lucky, it's almost 30°C here in northern Finland

[@rhysjaggar4677]

How many stations do they have all over the southern oceans and on Antarctica? Very few I bet. All that uninhabited space will be very cold...

[@DecadeAgoGaming]

@@rhysjaggar4677 we have satellites too

[@jaz093]

More people die of the cold than the heat but facts.

[@a13xdunlop]

Absolutely irrelevant in relation to global warming.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

But all the whiners haven't gone off to plant trees, restore water tables, grow their own, live in tents! Why not????

[@WaveOfDestiny]

When it gets hotter, more will x from heat than cold. The effects are delayed.

[@TrFjAcOr]

Then stop moaning about Nuclear power and let us build the amount we need. Renewables have a carbon footprint to build and cannot be recycled easily

[@jameslee-dp6cb]

Build under ground. Its cooler below ground. Its just a mater of time until outside work has to be done at night. With all this heat, Im thinking we need to worry about a super volcano erupting. I just dont understand this blame game everyone seems to want to play. How does blame help the situation? People need to build underground in order to save on energy. The earth is cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter if your underground. It needs to be build on a hill away from flood prone areas. And a double perimeter wall needs to be built with a drainage system between the walls to drain water downhill away from the structure. This will reduce sweating and provide an air flow for ventilation. Two or more entranceways need to be provided to ensure acess in case one gets blocked and an central heating and air system can be in a cove area on the downhill side to produce heat in the winter and cooling in the summer. It wont be needed as much as being above ground, but in extreme weather events, its nice to have. I like the design of earthship houses. They provide a garden area in the front part of the house where you can grow food. The big plus of building under ground is lower need for electricity and less outside noise.

[@ripvanwinkle3509]

Oh boy. Am i tired of the horse sh i t about the planet being on fire.

[@caterthun4853]

Well don't comment on a report about the problem..

[@ripvanwinkle3509]

@@caterthun4853 Why on earth not? What's the logic there - only comment on uploads we agree with?

[@benstern310]

Wow, England finally had some nice weather this summer. Lbc is a joke

[@bradb4740]

Hottest day on earth **so far**. We keep going for high scores! Climate change isn’t profitable, oops!

[@petergaskin1811]

Has anyone seen the temperatures in Spain - well over 40°C, and Morocco's in the high 40s.

[@johnlongford1734]

So they said but we have just returned from Spain where it has been around 28 to 30. Of course it is hotter inland but then it always has been.

[@darthbrexit]

Been in Spain the last 2 weeks and the hottest temperature as been 37. It was warmer 40 years ago.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

No way, who would have thought that Spain gets hot in the summer!?! I hear shocking news that it's hot in the Saraha desert too, everyone panic!!!!!

[@rhysjaggar4677]

What's unusual about 40C in Seville? Same in southern Italy. It's called high summer. I do believe the hottest temperature on earth was recorded in Death Valley early in the 20th century, odd that. As it's getting so much hotter, each and every year, why has Death Valley missed out, eh????

[@lisadefries6718]

Time we actually got our governments to DO something NOW to reverse our impact on the planet BEFORE we at the point of no return.

[@tinydancer36]

The govt. is the problem.

[@revpadma]

It's already too late. We have gone over 2.5 degrees increase already. We are beginning to hit the wall. If we do more now we can affect how hard we hit. If we do nothing, like the frogs, our fate and theirs will be the same.

[@klondike444]

We are past that point. We depend on fossil fuels. Can't have "renewables" without fossil fuels. Continue using them, we die from the heat, wars etc. Stop using them, we starve. We can only reduce energy use and stop increasing our population, but will still face civilizational collapse. Sorry.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

Why don't you just do something yourself? You know, plant a plum tree, make your own compost, collect all the rainwater coming off your roof and guide it to flat ground around your house where it can permeate, rather than sending it to drains to cause overflows on roads???? Is that too much work for you?

[@martyncardno2172]

Just in time I reckon with Spain kicking off about tourism... Every cloud.

[@rhysjaggar4677]

Don't talk 'climate crisis', talk opportunity for the Devon Riviera!!!!

[@tradergirljam]

Really...i don't remember that😂😂

[@cyrus2728]

hottest day going back hundreds of thousands of years at least? is that true?

[@davidwestwater2219]

Records that go back to 1940?

[@rhysjaggar4677]

And much of the data has been manipulated to conform to the narrative. They made it colder in the past and warmer today. They call it 'data homogenization'. When you look at the raw data, things are much less 'bad'....

[@soulabear9146]

Models??? Like the same ""Models/Modelling"" used for Covid??? 👀

[@carelgoodheir692]

If you did't start from assumptions that deny the existance of expertese you might learn to think.

[@soulabear9146]

@@carelgoodheir692 not sure the angle where you're coming from🤔 So I'll take a guess...what Booster are you up to now??? 9? 10?? 🍿👀

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@carelgoodheir692 Why is it then that real experts with far more knowledge and history in the field than this guy, say its all a scam and damage their reputation for nothing if they were lying?

[@ProfoundFamiliarity]

1) The world has always had natural temperature variation in the past 2) Climate change doesn't seem to significantly impact most people's day-to-day lives at the moment 3) Most people are currently struggling with worse issues than the weather 4) There are many different ways of measuring the earth's temperature 5) Trying to prevent climate change is probably already killing people e.g. by raising energy costs above affordable levels for some elder people I'm not a climate change denier. I simply want to explain why some people aren't particularly concerned yet

[@Winteriscoming...]

The profligate policies of the political leaders should reveal the actual truth. We are gaslit on the one hand that global warming is a disaster about to happen ... and yet the policy response, although punitive for the people, merely exacerbates all the concerns we are told by the elite need addressing. It just doesn't correspond. Harsh policies are not at all effective at addressing the problem, should the narrative be believed.

[@Warbaman]

1) nowhere near this speed. 2) only people in some countries, clearly you arent from africa. 3) just wait a few years then it'll be the biggest concern we all have. Most people with your view also tend to hate migration, how bad do you think it will get when half the world is uninhabitable?

[@V.42405]

1) yes but not man made. And whether or not the climate has changed before, the fact that its changing is the issue. 2) yes it is! Go ask people in the Pacific, Greenland, Northern siberia, Iceland.. even here in Scotland. 3) some people yes, but I refer you to my answer for 2, for plenty of people it's their main issue. 4) yes, but it's almost universal now, whichever method you apply there is a dramatic rise in global mean temps. 5) are you being funny, or trying to be? Energy costs rising has nothing to do with climate change. That's geo and social economical politics. And how you can compare a global extinction phase to some elderly people's heating bills is beyond small minded 🤦‍♂️ Not trying to be a denier? Well then what's your point? You sound very much like a denier.

[@V.42405]

​@@WarbamanI just replied nearly word for word the same as your reply! Looks like you beat me to it ;)

[@Warbaman]

@@V.42405 i just did it all in shorthand cos its likely wasted words anyway 🤣

[@christaylor8337]

How is it that Florida was once under water mostly but now it's hotter than it was then? Maybe we just don't have measurements? Hasn't the Earth been getting cold then hot, hot then cold, for as long as science can judge? Is there any time in scientific time that the climate was not changing? What temperature are we trying to 'lock in' and who decided that that temperature was the right one? Can someone help me with these things?

[@brentvanzanen6353]

Because the cryosphere takes a long time to reach equilibrium and the temperature change is extremely rapid at planetary timescales. The ice age is about 2.58 million years old, It's been about that long since FL was underwater, and yes there's been a regular glacial/interglacial cycle, though it's important to understand the drivers of that cycle apply mostly to the ice age because of the albedo and carbon cycle effects of glacier advance and retreat, and also that until very recently there was a LOT more ice in the northern hemisphere. A temperature that retains a northern ice cap under insolation, at least until July is IMO the most critical benchmark, but we aren't going to manage that. These are pretty basic questions for somebody who seems to be trying to challenge a whole branch of science.

[@drummingtildeath]

If you really want to know the answers to these questions, I don't understand why you would come to the KZbin comments instead of going to an actual suitable source. In fact, it sort of makes it look like you don't want a proper answer.

[@carelgoodheir692]

Yes. Read the outcomes of research by scientists and you'll get clear answers to all these questions.

[@christaylor8337]

@@carelgoodheir692 WHat is the temperature that we are locking in globally and why? I have never found that answer. Do you have that answer?

[@christaylor8337]

@@drummingtildeath I'm pointing out to you, a human being, that those answers are not given. You can choose to ignore that if you like but at least now you know that you are ignoring science. Tell me the answer if it's so easy. What temperature are we locking in globally and why? Otherwise all the 'lower the trajectory of the temperature through taxing people' doesn't make sense. Right now, it does not make sense. If you can tell me the temperature that we are trying to lock in globally, and why, maybe it might make sense. But you can't, because it doesn't make scientific sense. Say science all you want, it doesn't change anything.

[@nickdaybyday]

An average surface temp of 62°F. That's 16°C 🤔

[@klondike444]

You converted F to C. Well done.

[@nickdaybyday]

@@klondike444 no actually googled it but 16°c isn't hot. They used Fahrenheit when we use Celsius in the UK because if they said 16°c it's a no story

[@adpeels7092]

it's because our second artificial sun. created by the chinese.

[@j.mcgrath3695]

"The deserts will blossom..." Jehovah is making all things new. His will is that the earth be transformed back into the paradise Adam and Eve lost.

[@bobgray1555]

4:19 There is lots we can do - all possible and not hard with the right attitude. 1. Go vegan or cut right back on meat and dairy. 2. Get an ebike or ev or use public transport. 3. Vote for a green new deal or demand it from your mp. 4. Support or join XR or Just stop oil. 5. Switch to renewable energy at home. 6. Fly less. 7. Discuss this with friends. 8. Enjoy life, knowing YOU have done what you can!

[@darthbrexit]

No

[@sonofsomerset1695]

So join a doomsday cult then. No thanks, most of us arent that gullible.

[@Pecisk]

And another news item, another bunch of paid troll farm posts how plants need CO2, it is Earth doing, etc. Your traditional goal posts so no one would dare to do anything serious politically. Look, it is very simple start to talk about it, ignoring all these trolls.

[@salford6]

Government’s across the world MUST quadruple taxes for working people to save the planet!!!!!

[@kathri1006]

Not working people, but tax avoiding multi nationals. Abolish tax havens. Tax need to be paid at wherever it is earned. Also multi billionaires need to pay may be ten percent towards climate improving actions.

[@jimatherton2368]

Erm 2 or 3 years of the US military budget could pretty much replace all generation in the entire world with renewables. Don't need higher taxes, just different priorities...

[@rolandcollins1427]

so everybody is saying not me with their new cars their new houses their new children their new hair cuts their new shoes their new clothes their new pets their new radio shows their new thought on why climate change is happening their new internet shows i dont get it it's always somebody's else's fault and they will probable Maim some body or thing to prove its not their fault

[@chain8847]

What’s really interesting is that in the thirty years since the first climate crisis conferences global fossil fuel usage has doubled. Last year was a record year for oil extraction and coal extraction. We’ve also doubled our plastic production of which only 9 percent is recycled. Add to this almost 75 percent loss of insects and wildlife and the constant destruction of the remaining ancient forests and habitats. I think most people deep down know where this is heading. What a shame.

[@Winteriscoming...]

I don't think anyone, almost anyone, denies the appalling environmental damage as a result of Corporations and their manufacturing and production processes. But, global climate change?

[@sonofsomerset1695]

We have the top experts flying around the world for climate parties every year to tell us we shouldnt be flying around the world, it must be serious right?

[@azscab]

If each day is going to be hotter than the last it seems the human caused part will take care of itself. It's like the federal debt, there is nothing that can be done about it.

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Spoiler: it's not.