World of Tanks - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 57

[@leonardhofstadter8008]

That ending though. Oh, Jingles, don't ever change.

[@invalid4205]

Amen to that....back to the salt mines for a quad shift for me!

[@liamkramer2836]

never change..

[@photic9855]

The arty game is rough to watch lol the bullet tracer is very very clear where the other arty is and yet this guy takes like 5 shots 50feet behind the tracer ofc missing 😂

[@Burningarrow7]

Oh Leonard don't ever change

[@glyndavies2828]

It's that bloody boat game aga....wait what?

[@blakebaker830]

Glyn Davies I prefer to call it the bloody firefighter simulator but right on!

[@Our_Sole_Pusch]

The bloody floating artillery simulator again.....

[@Gamer-zn2oc]

Hey in the ''bloody boat game'' doesnt have prem ammo so i consider it better than the bloody tank game

[@blakebaker830]

MIsho jelev Absolutely right, there’s no selecting the wallet to do damage, although HE always does some kind of damage which is nice, try throwing 90mm HE at the front of a maus lol

[@Gamer-zn2oc]

I dare say that World of Warships is better than World of Tanks simply because ,even if u are in a tier 1 ship you can still sink a tier 10ship .

[@MrX-un8cz]

*_Is This The Bloody Submarine Game?_*

[@maxomai]

LAND SUBMARINES

[@BlackWolf18C]

Only when Arty is involved...

[@jordananderson2728]

I miss the bloody submarine game

[@MarkoDash]

yeah we need another round of jingles managing to crash land a nuclear attack submarine. edit: has jingles played KSP? that'd be hilarious

[@cesarfelipe7138]

Oh my god that needs to happen

Jingles comment sums up all issues known in WoT for years and shows that WG really doesn't care about fixing all those issues. More gold, more OP tanks, more senseless nerfs and changes which requires next series of even more senseless nerfs and changes. We have 2018 now and WG is surprised with decreasing number of players. Seriously...

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Wg has a chronic case of "symptom fixing" instead of doing something crazy like FIXING THE FUCKING PROBLEM. With messing with all the symptoms that pop up all over the place it lost all it's balance and introduced so so many new issues everytime that i doubt if this trainwreck can actually be saved still.

TBH it could be fixed within six months. 1. Withdraw gold ammo and balance armor around standard AP/APCR and weakspots. Then bring back gold ammo and limit it to about 5% of total shells. That way T-10 with 30 shells in ammorack could take just 2 gold rounds and T-54 with 50 shells in ammorack could take just 3 rounds of HEAT. Of course it would bring whining of all statpadders but we could witness the miracle - armor would be important as well as knowledge of weakspots. Just like in 2014. 2. No more bullshit "no changes in premtanks" which makes OP ones not touched and old ones even more shitty than in old days. Nerf OP ones which break the balance, buff UP ones so players could use all those rusting IS-6s or Super Pershings. And balance all tanks properly from that point, including removing OP features in leFH, E-25 and so on like extra view range. 3. No more failed design on purpose like shitty VI tier Polish med which is annoying even to watch. I saw Sir Foch streaming and seriously I could feel his pain. Grind can be long but tanks should be OK. When people have to grind in shitty tank, some of them use free XP but most will give up. 4. Remove bots. OK, this is not that big issue due to decreasing number of players but seriously - if people in their VIII tier HT have 42% WR, average dmg about 200 and very low ratio of hits with low numbers of rounds fired you don't have to be Sherlock to see that this isn't normal. Warn such users, limit their ability to play in mid or high tier tanks and give them number of tasks which they have to finish before they can play on higher tiers. Humans will do it, bot accounts no. 5. Stop being greedy. Of course WG is not charity but seriously, many players will not pay a dime when they see that game company is greedy but they will gladly pay some hard cash to support favourite game if manufacturer is OK. WG isn't and break their promises so often that I don't think if there is someone who is able to count all of that moments. WG can earn a lot of cash being more fair and being less greedy. 6. Fix SPGs. This video may be tutorial where you've fucked up and what you should do instead of failing time after time. 7. Fix failed MM. Well known rant of Circon can be your guide. But if you make all fixes above maybe current MM will be not that bad because VIII tier tanks will not be fucked all the time by X tiers. _____ Of course WG will not do anything from that list, they don't give a shit about current state of game. All they want is to milk EU cow as long that cow is alive. Maybe they will wake up in 2020 when only 10 thousands of players will be playing on EU servers while just 5 years earlier there were 100 thousands. But well... I don't think so.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@ yeah, like i said. If they actually fix the underlying problems the never ending stream of symptoms will dry up instantly.. But i don't think it is possible anymore. They messed to much with everything. It would basicly leave a game that would barely be comparable with what it is now.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 at the same time, tearing down a whole house that's rotted through to the core and building a completely new one on the same property is both safer and cheaper and faster than adding yet another roll of duct tape and plastic padding...

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@SonsOfLorgar we are dealing with a masive corperation here. As long as the money keeps roling in it will be nothing but simply patching the most gamebreaking issues and adressing outrages. Any fixing has to be done in way that will in no way influence income in a bad way. It is just how corperations work. That's also why mm will not be fixed properly, it will be marginally better then it is now but still anoying. And a lot of people will be disapointed and the idiots will come out again saying people are whining and should shut up..

[@Epicredeemer]

I like AW's old approach to arty. Every time any arty would fire, it would set off a large ping of it's GENERAL location on the map for the enemy artillery, that would grow smaller the more you fired from that position

[@M0DERN_B0REFARE]

I disagree completely. Your team want you to support them. In AW, because of that mechanic pretty much every single battle the arties would spend the entire time trying (and often failing) to kill each other. They may as well have been playing a completely different game, because they were never involved in the rest of the battles happening across the entire map for the duration of the fight...

[@jameson1239]

Modern BoreFare I have never seen that happen

[@TheDeathSinger]

JINGLE ITS 4 SECONDS TO LONG AGGHHHHHH

[@hashfifon]

too*

[@someonesdog3125]

That's what Rita said

[@jaketeppis]

How you can misspell 3 letter word?! Is this the state of english speakers who can't spell even simplest of words?

[@sineupp]

Elmer Plox *a 3-letter word. Ftfy.

[@Teekeks]

Man, imagine a world where not everyone is a native english speaker!

[@Coolkiller-rn3rp]

So let me get this straight; this episode of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly features The Good, The Good .....and...... The Good? Ah Master Overlord Jinlges I fear I may have spotted a flaw in your plan.

[@alexlee4171]

To the salt mines with you!! Nobody questions our gracious gnome overlord!! You will work double shifts until the next episode of Alien Isolation for your insubordination!

[@Coolkiller-rn3rp]

Bugger

[@ahmetsaidalkur50]

the cute, the sky shit, and the good?

[@jayvonwebb4864]

First game was ugly because of the tank he was in. Second game was bad because it was a draw and jingles felt the arty driver should have won. Third game was good because, well that was a pretty good game.

[@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety]

@@jayvonwebb4864 First game was ugly because Luchs bounced off the back of an M37

[@williwass6837]

Perfect analysis how WG destroyed the Arty game

[@ThomasEPeters]

The only problem there ever has been with the artillery in this game is that real time top down camera view they use to aim. There would never have had to be any nerfs to artillery if that view did not exist. They should be aiming with a larger version of the minimap that does not show falling trees, and tank tracks and you aim by putting your aiming circle around a symbol generated by the tanks on your team spotting the enemy for you. Or alternately you just play TD with regular sights like all the other tanks.

[@Peregrine101]

That and some very strange choices made in certain tech trees in arty. I am trying to grind the English arty tree. And only got a grinding halt when getting to the Bishop. That thing is so different to the first tiers, you have to forget everything you learned about English arty from the first tiers. The stock Bishop is a disaster. No range, no punch, no agility and no speed. It is almost like a downgrade instead of an upgrade.

[@ThomasEPeters]

Bishop probably has suffered the heaviest of all the SPGs from the various nerfs. The Bishop was the first and most common SPG in the North Africa campaign and it made its name not for its performance as artillery- it had less elevation and therefore range than the towed 25pdr- but because of its direct fire performance with AP. It was more akin to the Soviet SUs and it was not liked well enough to keep once they could get Priests and Sextons. Now its had accuracy nerfs, rate of fire nerfs, damage nerfs, and finally removing AP entirely so the one thing it was good at it cannot do.

[@glen_8453]

Anyone who says anything other than "arty needs to be removed" have to be delusional 3 per game, permanently stunned, in some cases focused by all, your hp drops very quickly coupled by the fact it barely ever misses makes in still one of the most irritating and frustrating things

[@Manfurias]

lel, arty players should be forced to calculate their shots with distance and wind mechanics, that will put some actual "skill" in clicking, but ofc, your average arty player is a pig that sits in the red line masturbating and is unable to solve 2+2

[@VekhGaming]

Looked like the T-150 was using the stock turret so at least we can forgive him derping since he doesn't seem to have the 107. While I had the same general ideas about arty, you did sum it up pretty much perfectly. And makes me realise that arty are the goalkeepers of WoT, doesn't matter how good you play or how bad your team plays, everything is always your fault and if you do anything other than what is expected of you you get called a noob even if it was a smart idea. BTW, is there actually a list of what tanks are considered OP at any given time? Cus while I like playing certain "OP tenks" I tend to play them in a silly way to negate either its main or one of the main advantages and want to know if that still counts as playing a OP tenk.

[@corwinhyatt519]

T-150 = KV-1 with bigger gun and turret but next to no armor around the gun (at least last I checked, KV-3 and KV-4 are/were worse, you can fly a Cessna through the gap in the armor of the KV-4's mantlet).

[@DiabloDBS]

Just look at overall win percentage of vehicles that haven't entered the game fairly recently (2-3 weeks is usually the time where the better player dominate).

[@VekhGaming]

Problem with that is that if you look at the dataset(using vBAddict now), the FCM 36 Pak 40 is the most OP tank available, and some random picks say that some acending in OP-ness are the SU-122-44, Light Mk.VIC, Type 5, Matilda, KV-5, Cromwell B, Defender, SU-18, T95, E25, ELC EVEN 90, Obj. 252U and the goddamn AC1 Sentinel in 10th place. This list makes no goddamn sense since while I like the KV-5 it really can't be better allround than the Type 5 unless the Type 5 is driven by 80% windowlickers, and the Sentinel should not be that high, even with the small sample sizes.

[@DiabloDBS]

Well the FCM36 is quite the beast if played correctly especially since you often meet a lot of new players. The VIC also falls into that category. The Su-122-44 is a very good tank as well the like the Cromwell, E25 and EVEN 90. They often require a higher skill level to be played well thou. The Defender / 252U are quite the monster especially if you end in a T8 MM. The KV-5 in a T8 MM and / or gold ammo only is a very good tank as well especially if driven by a good player. And considering most people today rather drive a Defender i'd argue that most people taking a KV-5 out are better in it than the average player would be. The problem with the Type-5 is that the armor isn't that effective against heat and nearly anybody is willing to tip on that 2-Key for a Type-5. The AC1 is probably mostly played by very skilled players so if the dataset is to close to 1k ignore it. Still the VBAddicts listing makes a lot of sense to me. If you want to extend the analysis you could also consider weighting such stats as WR / DMG ratio / Kills / WN8 etc. and integrate them. That might well shift some ranks. In the end it's just statistics thou, if you have enough people pulling the stats of one vehicle down by their bad play, lets name the T67 as example which comes in at 110 or even the IS-7 at 112, then the stats will be watered down quite a bit and not be telling as much. Especially tanks that have a high skillcap and are easily available get pulled down and even more so when they become known as *OP*. That is true for the T67 as well as for the E25 which was probably sold really hard after they resold it, after saying they'd never again, and it already got the *OP* tag attached. Anyways good luck with your search ^^

[@jarretticeearthguard8614]

Corwin Hyatt- I disagree with your opinion.........

[@Gsoda35]

Jingles, thank you for the nice artillery discussion! You just gave me a reason to search youtube for: world of tanks let's play artillery. Artillery is a core part of WoT and I see no issue with the battle at 19:33 because it only removed about 30% armour and self defence is legitimate.

[@gundamzaku]

When Jingles talk about WoT back in the day. I be to like to say this, back in my days Jingles used the soundtrack of Girls und Panzer serie to troll people for Why You Heff To Be Mad videos.

[@Matakshaman]

And it was glorious

[@arnoldrimmer1000]

Its that bloody car game again

[@OFS_Razgriz]

C... Car? Cars? Um, mate, IDK how to tell you this but...

[@arnoldrimmer1000]

@@OFS_Razgriz they have wheels an engine and travel on roads there fore there cars just a bit bigger and have guns

[@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety]

It's the bloody wagon game again.

[@arwing20]

I thought this was called the good, the bad and the ugly. I saw the good, the good and the good.

[@jarretticeearthguard8614]

Yep.

[@Rakshiir]

But I really liked the third game. Sure, he had luck, quite a bit of it actually, but at the same time: Bottom tier tank, doesn't spam his 2 key, so yeah, I quite like to see that. Sadly, the current state of the game you tend to not see those games any more, even on channels who are still dedicated to WoT only, at least on the bigger ones you see people who are more like 50/50 on their standard to premium ammo...

[@ghita.herdean.1979]

Ahh, you just see the good in the world. The ugly was the one you heard speaking the entire video and the bad is the one whose comment you are reading now.

[@matthbva]

Wow, Jingles. Your reflections on the old days in WOT made me nostalgic. I've been playing this game six and a half years, and I remember all the stuff you're talking about. Great Scott, I feel old.

[@Matakshaman]

5:24 It's not actually quite as stupid as it Luchs. ;)

[@angiegamez8600]

Yea i noticed that too :D

[@Inexorablehorror]

Dear Jingles, this is my obsolute favourite series. When I started WoT two years ago, I binge watched every episode. Please, release more of it, I love it!! Greetings from Germany!

[@kodiakanubis16]

Where's the chicken lizard game?

[@TheExecutorr]

I'm also starting to miss that drowning simulation game, but unfortunately he's done with that for now

[@spjmrlahey4008]

I concur. Moar chicken lizards!

[@flypast9725]

Always good to have a jingles video to watch on your 18th birthday :)

[@Torkantarion]

It's not an hour long video though. :p

[@DiabloDBS]

Mmh always wondered why WG didn't put in the all angle tracers in top down view again... Loved how AW did SPGs...

[@prd6617]

maybe because having an option to use a mod make the game system more vulnerable to any hacking/changing game file than not.

[@DiabloDBS]

Well not like you need an open API to install such modifications but yes that was the original reasoning. Still there are a ton of other mods they ban people for and it was never such a big fuss. It is the same as with aimbot noobs .. detect the modification and ban the account. And scanning the game files in the background for any kind of mod isn't something new to 2018, that is a thing for like 20 years now. The thing that always bothered me was what Jingles also pointed out. The easiest solution would have been for the SPGs to just move between shots which would help in the majority of cases. The thing with SPGs is that they currently don't take much to be operated. Due to the toned up RNG over the years it is often irrelevant how you aim as the more important part is how the dice roll. That is also what i loved about SPGs in AW. They had to move since the were lit up to all enemy SPGs for a short time after firing. The enemy inside your target area would get a warning of an incoming shell, which actually could be used quite well. The SPGs could also take a supporting role in terms of providing cover / lighting up enemies. While the most important part for me was always that SPGs had to be wary of enemy SPGs and actually actively balance between counter bat. and regular support.

[@snakefannum1]

DIABLODBS I agree completely, when I played arty in AW that was the first thing I did was locate and counter battery the enemy arty, next I was looking for where smoke would be useful (although there wasn't usually much for me to do on that front cause of learned enemy spawn positions

[@DiabloDBS]

@snakefannum1 I found the smoke quite useful especially when an enemy AFV was on a suiside spotting run. Did they finally fix the NPCs in PVE to not ignore smoke screens? :-X That annoyed me like hell back in the early days.

[@arueshalaetablebuildingsociety]

I mean, WoWS already uses a heavy-handed program that targets all .dll injectors, and all mods inherently mod the .dll, so...

[@SirAdrian87]

This must be World of Waship's new land-ship mode I've been hearing about

[@TallulahSoie]

This is the carrier rebalance iirc

[@chrisdel87]

loved the last replay, i have been there a couple times and it feels great, i have my regular cromwell, a KV-2 and some other few regular tanks to hang around but they can't get into top tier as usual as it was back in the days where it was not about template Match Making...

[@Bigbacon]

Suck they couldn't make arty like AW arty worked. It was awesome there and a pure support class.

[@Maddog3060]

Because then the mouth-breathers one-handed clickers would complain that they actually have to play the game instead of just sitting in one spot the whole match.

[@officialglueeater123]

Daniel Nilsson The difference between TDs and arty is TDs actually have to expose themselves to do their damage and can be countered, meanwhile there is no counter to being clicked across the map

[@bob_._.]

Connor Lee Yes there is a very simple effective counter to being clicked, but so many would rather bitch and moan instead of learning and doing it. It is the tears of those players with which Arty brews its coffee.

[@bob_._.]

Play arty for a while and you should be able to figure it out easily enough. If not, I doubt my telling you would help.

[@hashfifon]

lol bob, you clearly don't know a damn thing. let's see how you counter arty while playing a slow heavy tank on a map like malinovka or any other open map

[@crazysquid0227]

"I am one with the Rock, and the Rock is With me!" Fleet Week or Tank Fest...doesn't matter...all your videos are awesome!

[@neon5099]

Just as i come home ,the good, the bad and the ugly comes out, nice one Jingles.

[@lukeyard100]

You sure do bring me a lot of joy with these wot videos, I know this is an old one but still

[@wihamaki]

The problem with counter-arty, there's no guarantee a direct hit will be strong enough for a kill now. Damage is now a nice side bonus. The priority is stunning enemy tanks your team is about to shoot at. Stun the enemy arty, there's a good chance it's worn off before his next shot is reloaded anyways. You get nothing, it doesn't help the team if no one else can shoot at him. If you're lucky to have your fellow arty marking targets, you immediately hit them first... the stun assist will easily give you a Mastery Badge. Personally, I rather get hit by an unseen arty that doesn't 'put himself in danger', then all the high caliber TD's that need to be proxy spotted in order to find them, who have shell velocities that require very little skill to lead a shot with. I'm able to drink a lot more Mountain Dew playing a TD then arty, which I'm constantly moving after every shot, and sometimes even jump on the enemy cap circle late game if we've won a flank.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Yeah, and that is bad design..

[@kevinmckay5052]

on occasion its enough for arty to fire a round or two early in the match CLOSE enough without dmg, or stun to suppress enemy artillery - makes em rethink their favorite spot on the map is still a good idea - and they skedaddle away. Arty players are creatures of habit , however some believe P stands for Propelled and the hapless others think its for Parked. And yes, its true, killing an enemy arty via blind shot in the first 60 seconds of the match in a deliberate attempt to suppress enemy arty, goes unnoticed and unappreciated because if your tanks didnt see it, it didnt happen :) IMHO

[@michaelritzen8138]

Wayne Ihamaki I am grinding out the T92 and sometimes, even on tier 9, I need that counterbattery one shot after my first shot, to remind myself to move. However, I also have games where I am stunning multiple tanks every shot, and my allies just sit there, wonder what those Numbers above the tank mean and fire when the stun wears off. Very frustrating when you are doing missions that require 3k stun/track damage.

[@wihamaki]

I remember if my heavy tanks were out-numbered 2-3, my shells could make a big enough significant emotional event to even the odds up if the other arty wasn't helping them out. Now chances are, my only thoughts on the situation will be to think about relocating as I know that flank will fail, with or without me. Hell with some SPG's, I won't even fire because they fail to cause any damage to heavy tanks.

[@Takamiki]

+Preston even if artillery dpm been buffed it doesn't mean much for artillery since it fires HE now with no AP or HEAT ammunition. cause how likely are you going to get atleast the average damage from your shot with HE unless you fire at something with little or no armor? and that is if you hit where you aim. i mean even in the perfect condition with multiple targets constantly spotted and staying still while presenting the biggest target available with the artillery constantly firing how likely will that artillery after a minute of firing hit their listed dpm and not instead of half of it or under.

[@kEjblful]

I don't play this game anymore, but still watching Jingles videos due to his hilarious laugh he has. Love you Jingles :D:D:D You made my day again

[@joshdudeguy2830]

As a long-time arty player who played every arty line, but got frustrated and sold all but the M53 (for missions), I can say it is no longer fun to play arty. It's not even sustainable, you don't get much compensation for stunning people so you go poor quickly. You can get a direct hit on a Maus and not do ANYTHING. I was a fan of removing the AP (because I play actual tanks too and know that frustration), but I didn't like removing the alpha of the HE, maybe just have higher drop offs for the damage depending on the distance by which you missed. Basically, a direct hit with HE should mess you up like it used to, but if they miss by 10 feet, it should greatly reduce what they do, moreso than it used to. I say add back in the concealment for light tank and tank destroyer players. That way the TDs can't use the excuse that they HAVE to camp because there are very few bushes on the map. Add back in the tracers that make arty have to move every once in a while and makes counterbattery fun again. I was an arty player who did this all the time, even going as far as to ask teammates to tell me when they get hit and where they thought it was from so I could help them. I didn't play arty to be a dick, I played it to get challenging shots across the map. Those shots on super fast light tanks going at full speed across the maps? That was me practicing calculating your speed vs my shell's travel speed and distance as well as predicting your direction of movement. I am not ashamed of that, because that took skill. I wish arty was rewarding again.

[@rip9298]

people don't appreciate you enough jingles, continuously giving top notch content for us plebs i thank you sir

[@Matakshaman]

Jingles, the Polish TKS is the new cutest tank in the game. Fight me

[@jackee-is-silent2938]

As far as I can remember from what was described, the tracer bug exploited by that mod didn't just allow hilighting arty tracerrs, it turned all tracers from all tanks into persistent glowing lines in the sky

[@moffepolle]

Your are missleading the plebs there is still arty tracer just harder to spot, and thats what he was shooting after. But these arties moved after they shoot!

[@Danspy501st]

Or his shot moved abit too far so splash didnt kill them. I had tried to counter the arties in SU-8 and darn it is hard to do when your gun has it's own mind

[@moffepolle]

the m44 move with each shoot there were three tracers that was from differnet positions!

[@Elodarian]

A cannon cocker who actually KNOWS his play... Will wonders ever cease?

[@Danspy501st]

Well, I would never knew that, but at least we try XD

[@Martynas954]

nah those artys certainly did move meaning they did not sit in their top down view and actually noticed that the first shell landed behind them. realized that they are being countered and started moving after the shots. which is incredibly rare thing to do for artys...

[@jessew5152]

RIP old camo system. Man. I miss sneaking around in the old Chaffee, holding my breath as a Jagdtiger passes by directly in front of me without detecting my tank, right before I pop out and do the circle of death. RIP old Chaffee

[@MutieThePig]

WTF Jingles! Many arty players participate in counterbattery when appropriate! That never goes out of fashion...

[@ollieedwards4169]

Not at low tiers. Although that might be because there are more dumb people than people who retained their brain cells

[@MutieThePig]

Yes but at low tiers you would expect more of all types to be inexperienced, not just arty.

[@qssneaky]

You can also still see the tracer, it's just a lot shorter and quicker and when you spot the tracer, the enemy arty is about a tank lengths behind it. Watch at 25% speed starting at 14:01 and you'll spot the enemy arty tracer just as his shell was landing just above where he aimed

[@bobodj9]

8h

[@M0DERN_B0REFARE]

@Ollie Edwards The reason there is much less counter battery at low tiers is the fact many of the arty do not even have the range to hit the other side of the map, where the enemy arty are most likely located.

[@juniik5522]

Perfect conclusion and examination of the artillery problem. Good job!

[@ericsuter-bull1359]

What if they made it so that if a tank stayed in the same location for too long a cloud of exhaust would start to appear behind it

[@lhd7105]

My first intro to World of Tank, to have this wonderful commentary on our gaming is awesome!

[@zwinmar21]

armored warfare had the best arty mechanics..too bad the rest of the game blew ass (except pve, but even then)

[@Olav_Hansen]

Damn jingles and his minute of recordscrewing everyone. you evil little gnome we love ya.

[@steeltrap3800]

Your comments about arty, and then during the (excellent) Easy 8 game, pretty much summed up why I (a player from Beta in 2010) and everyone I know stopped playing WoT. It's boring, low skill and such a 'lowest common denominator' experience I'm surprised people bother with it. Such a shame; definitely a better game just before tier 10 TDs, arty and unlimited gold ammo were all introduced. Things like flanking, refusing combat and several other skills that marked a good player from an average/poor one seem largely to have vanished in most instances.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

It has become more punishing over the years by poor design decisions. They took the wrong aproach to counter that by introducing stupid "fixes" Instead of making it less punishing again like it used to be.

[@glen_8453]

People that whine about premium ammo are so outdated that it makes no sense, I dont complain when I get shot by it not sure how others can. Take that back to 2012 and leave it there

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@glen_8453 it was bad design back then and it is bad design now. And it is still worth fixing so still worth complaining about..

[@bravehome4276]

NewbnessAwaits _ Such an easy fix to premium ammo. Make all premium like the ammo on the SU-100Y. You can either have higher pen and lower damage, or lower pen and higher damage. So simple....

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@bravehome4276 the problem always has been is the fact that it makes armour impossible to balance. Especially since +2 mm allready makes it a nightmare allready. Doing less damage does nothing to change that. It is simply bad design.

[@anthonyyang7633]

Liked because of that classic Jingles ending and of course the content plus the mighty gnome overlord himself! Well done good sir!

[@Oldgit51]

I always counter battery arty when I'm in mine and usually get good results, and it's not so unusual as you think.

[@williamodom7823]

I do the same and it paid off yesterday. Bombardier's 🏅

[@mcmajor91]

Yes mate, it is ok when you have good spg but that map must be for tier 6 only! Not just because of SPG, burst radius, etc etc....it is so small map for tier 8's and way,way to small for tier 10's. Problem with WoT and spg's is if you are in spg, you know on which map more likely enemy spg will be, and that's it. :) p.s.- I too, love to counter enemy spg but only when I have time for that because I want to help my team to kill enemy scouts or enemy push on some flank.

[@davethompson3326]

That first one ought be a Claus Kellerman video - I can hear him screaming with laughter

[@mrexists5400]

well it is bt7 *artillery*

[@Amir4king]

As someone who is a big fan of the easy 8 and who has all 3 stars on its barrel much like underlyingIssues, I can't tell you how happy I am to see the E8 be featured in a replay. It is such an amazing and underrated tank. Amazing on the move capabilities, huge dpm, epic gun depression and impressive mobility. Sure it has no armor but Ive got enough steel walls in it to say it doesnt matter in certain situations. I just love the thing. It's great to see another tanker who appreciates the tank as much as I do.

[@Elodarian]

Jingles, You are 100% correct about teammates whining about Counter-Battery fire. Whenever I play arty I try to CB enemy arty but I also move immediately after I fire too... But I have very strong philosophical issues with War Gaming's idea of what Arty can do. When I was just starting my training in the USA Army as a MOS13B on the M102 105mm Howitzer we trained for "maximum barrage". With that gun out and ready we could sustain 12 rounds a minute until the BYO-Ammo ran out. When you have a full battalion of 105mm going as hot and heavy as possible, the carnage on the far end can be impressive! But this was in the bad old days when the Fulda Gap was a real concern. (Yes, I know how old that makes me)... BTW:> I know you were RN, but were you in during the Falklands War?

[@ollieedwards4169]

I think he might have been. He says he was on HMS Coventry (whilst it was afloat) and went after a Kirov. Watch his cold waters Turkey shoot video(the top one, there’s two) and he references this

[@Elodarian]

Thanks! I don't feel quite so old now, LOL BTW:> Love your videos Mr. Jingles, please don't ever change! The wife was watching your "Jingles Effect" video about how you troll your wife and she was laughing to tears... She was saying "See! I'm not the only one to screw up a game for their spouse!" LOL

[@markparker5585]

Elodarian I haven’t watched that video but does it go something like this: - playing game - door opens - wife asks question - 5 seconds later wife says “aw, your tank got blown up” - 5 seconds later wife then says “did I do that?”

[@lMarcusl]

Gosh I remember when these used to be almost weekly :( Miss those days. I don't even play WoT anymore but watching Jingles' videos of it always brings a tear of nostalgia in my eye.

[@robertdevito5001]

MarcusTheAbsolute they were starting to get cookie cutter, his why you heff to be Memes... Err... Mad, videos had become entirely cookie cutter. I'm glad he took a break and did something new when he brought it back. Not only was it fresh, but long anticipated which made it all the better.

[@perhagglund5595]

It struck me the other day that if arty was NOT in the game today, but there was a mod that gave you the ability to aim from top-down view with a proper tank, that mod would be banned and players would go absolutly crazy because that mod would "give you an unfair advantage"... But i thank you for this (and all other too of course) video. I really like that you actually learn thing about the game whilst being entertained! And concidering the state of the game nowadays: we need your videos. Some more than others. Thank you!

[@warhawk3719]

how on earth would aiming from the top down give any advantage to direct fire guns? The whole reason arty have that view is because their guns have a firing arc, not a direct firing line.

[@musicduck4538]

@@warhawk3719 maybe it would help tanks with derp guns to shoot over hills.

[@goodman528]

As a tier 10 Artillery player, I agree with Jingles. I grind to Obj261 because of the accuracy and AP ammo. But when I got it they nerfed it so now it has neither. I feel cheated by WG.

[@kevinmccloy3442]

Jingles, you are in almost every way my spirit animal, (same age, sense of humor, skill, (as in lack of) and opinion) but I'm going to have to disagree with you here on some fundamental issues. I play arty... a lot. French and American mostly, and my second most used vehicle is my M44. I love it. And although I admit that too many arty players coward out and drown themselves at the end, (when they are the only tank left and whatever is left of the entire enemy team is salivating so hard they need wipers for their screens in anticipation of virtually raping defending arty) I can honestly say that I have never done this. If I'm reloading and facing off against a tank that has seen me with no hope of reloading in time or hiding, I charge like a deranged chihuahua, still hoping for the ramming kill. This however wasn't the issue I disagree with you on. No, that one is that "arty players take no risks" while clicking away and sucking down mountain dew. How, exactly are arty players *supposed* to "take risks", given the current realities of arty capabilities? The M44 is one of the quicker artys I've driven, yet it couldn't get away from any medium or light tank, ever. It's turn rate is abysmal, so it's never going to be out-turn anything that gets behind them. With my crew and equipment the reload rate is aobut 17 seconds, which isn't bad I'll admit, but how many non-arty tanks can take out an arty with their reload rate and dpm? Arty armor almost universally sucks, (with a few exceptions) and I am regularly one-shotted, and not just by "stronk" Russian guns. To "take risks" and put their SPG where other tanks could see, the arty player would have to go out in the fields and try to survive in an environment that they aren't designed to survive. Lets be honest...if arty "took risks", they would get slaughtered. (They do anyway.) Arty is *not designed* to go head to head with any other tank with a reasonable chance of survival. And if arty is so broken...then why aren't the top tanks in almost every category (damage, captures points, kills, damage blocked, wins, etc.) arty? (Thanks to Quickybaby and his videos, I do admit that the M44 is a non-premium credit machine, and I do use it that way, but that's not the only reason I drive it.) I think the reason people hate arty so much is that when they get hit, they can't take any instant revenge. (It's why everyone *not* in arty takes such pleasure in slaughtering arty.... because in that game or another, they took a hit/got taken out by arty and couldn't immediately click on the perpetrator and blast out their anger.) And unlike your criticisms of the Conquerer in WoW, (for hanging back and dealing damage from a great distance) while arty many times is/are the last tanks on the field, (because of that very same hang-in-back-and-deal-damage-from-a-distance mechanic), arty *certainly* cannot survive that end game very easily if there are any other tanks on the other side besides arty. I know I'm going to get flamed and trolled for this. But I would also like to send you some of *my* videos and show you arty life from the point of the view of arty drivers. I've just hesitated and not sent any because you seem to really hate arty, and your opinion carries a lot of weight and influences the thinking of lots of WoT players.

[@bannor_murphy369]

he is not interested mate he only puts up wot vids to keep subs thats why his statements are glib and without any real thought

[@derekb3653]

Kevin, I tend to support you in this. I play arty a fair bit, and often end up shotgunning tanks because, no one left. It is meant to be a support gun, and I play it to support my team as best I can. But I can't really take damage (Fr UK and US lines so far). I hate seeing arty players kill themselves (I've done it twice, both by accident - first, didn't realise I was aiming at a wall when I tried a last shot - ouch!. Second time, I fell off a ridge into water and drowned). I much prefer to either take a shotgun chance, or even ram! And I've seen quite a few who act the same way. I've even managed to run away once and force a draw! Hilarious. I've scouted (Bert the Avenger and Crusader!!)(and no I don't recommend it, but needs must), played TD, and sometimes just plain went out to get shot and let my meds and heavies get killing shots in, and have seen other arty do the same. One charged in front of me to take a hit (I was in a light!). Other players do forget that reloads are up to 30 sec though, and it takes time to reset an aiming point on a lot of arty. That frustrates me. The one big thing I don't agree with though, is 3 arty in a game. Even I think that's a bit much, esp in high tier, and then on a city map. The other thing is, co-ordination. I don't have the mouse control for intense close action game play all the time (age thing), yet it lets me play game to some degree. I know, spam Jingles with Arty replays........OK I'm off back to the Salt Mines now. Anyway, good gaming to you and Jingles, and everyone else.

[@durachoks]

Arty is broken and period. Yes its not on top in any statistics but biggest problem with arty is that it ruins game and fun experience of other players, people have to camp in the back trying to avoid getting spotted or they will get artied, also usually front line tanks which are trying to make plays like pushing flanks also get punished for it because they are obv spotted all the time. maybe you are having your fun sitting in the base clicking every 30 secons but other people meanwhile are suffering or getting bored in the corner of a map. Try playing slow tank on open map with 3 arties and you will see how fun it is, and I mean playing not sitting in the corner...

[@icenose7]

I used to be a supporter of arty back when it could one shot you even, but when arty is dealing 1k damage consistently and in the top five on damage done on both teams every other game or so, usually taking little risk (because it is a support tank, I understand this is it's role and it *shouldn't* be taking risks) and getting rewarded that heavily, that isn't healthy for gamer satisfaction of non-arty players, who are the majority. The only issue I have with arty in it's current state is it's reload. I'd be fine if it had it's old alpha back, even if it kept the stun mechanic (which gives arty the xp it needs to actually have a tolerable grind and give it more use and satisfaction to the arty player). Before the arty changes I usually would play a game without getting hit; maybe every so often I would be hit and punished if I didn't reposition or I was considerably unlucky. But when I'm driving a mobile medium and getting gunned down by an arty or two every 20 seconds while proactively moving on a map and see their results later, it's disheartening. I don't blindly hate on arty or it's players, but I am not happy with how often arty ends up on both teams near top on damage done and how effective they are at suppressing a flank to the point it's unplayable for *both* sides. I'm an avid watcher of Circon and not too long ago he showed off the arty craters on the hill of Malinovka. There were at least 30+ craters by his count. 30. 4 artillery total. Granted, if I was playing arty on that map, that's where I would be aiming, but when nobody wins a flank because they've all been destroyed by artillery is ridiculous. I know this isn't every game as well, but it's often enough to be noticeable and judging by how much of the (rather toxic) community hates on arty specifically must say something about the state it's in. I do think you provided an excellent point about not being able to retaliate back to arty. It's hard to swallow that "I just got rekt and I can't hit him back" pill. With my hopefully not too aggravating rant over, I wish you the best of luck and good tanking! Teach me to counter arty sometime so I can vent out some arty frustration sometime :P

[@camieabz]

He stopped playing arty, and now bats for the non-arty side. Funny that.

[@traumatic__2183]

Jingles 2018 - "And now he's behind the priest" not the usual way LOL

[@tl5108]

That's 4 seconds of my life ill never get back

[@jedirevan5892]

The way that you talked about the thankless task facing artillery gunners, reminded me of one of Jokers first lines in Dark Knight, What happened to the other guy, boss said that when the job is done to take him out I'm guessing he told you to do the same thing, No I killed the bus driver.

[@njugunotsowildmonkey8338]

Just a couple of issues, oh bigoted one. 1) Most maps are too small to be able to 'sit at the back and simply click away'. See today's vid as an example of our hero killing an arty on Mines. In any case ALL vehicles that have crap armour- lights excepted - sit at the back/camp AND they're slow (Frenchies excepted) so moving can be very tricky. 2)Many arty players DO indicate their target when necessary/desirable - most tanks seem to totally ignore it 3) Tracer mod is still a thing though not many use it 4) many arties don't move much in early game because there are usually only a limited number of useful and relatively safe positions that suit an arty. 5) Top tier arties are very big, very slow and have the camo value of a pink elephant on a well lit stage. So if you were playing one I suppose you'd be right up there on the front lines, eh? Oh yeah. I forgot. You like the TOG II, don't you? LOL ( at least it fires quickly) 6) Most arty players do not commit suicide

[@HazeGreyAndUnderway]

I just happened to search up WoT videos and on a whim I clicked this one. I used to be a Jingles subscriber, until he fully evolved into a whiny bigoted talking head. A lot of the shit he complains about I honestly don't have trouble encountering. I'm convinced in his current state he just likes to bitch and moan about any little thing that he thinks could upset him.

[@mikegentile6879]

Jingles, i've been playing arty that way forever, including letting my team know when i'm reloading, unfortunately they don't usually appreciate it, and I never get protection, but I do get a fair amount of Pascucci medals :) Keep up the terse attitude, it really makes my day.

[@craig6680]

I would rather play against arty these days rather than the gold spammers that just pretty much point and shoot and play for stats and not for team. xvm is like porn to them lol.

[@L.Pondera]

Craig Rosser that's why they are called unicums

[@misterwipeout]

A good the bad and the ugly half an hour long?! Can't argue with that, bless ye Mighty Jingles

[@hazardous401]

Chaffee is cuter than the Luchs *runs off*

[@themooreclan1220]

LTP is cuter.

[@alexlee4171]

@@themooreclan1220 KV2 is cuter

[@danielr.l.mccullough600]

Tetrarch is cutest tonk, I will fight anyone to the death who denies it

[@prd6617]

no no no no amx 40 are cuter, especially if u use the duck skin

[@TheGeoCheese]

Go back to the beauty surgeon everyone knows the Luchs has natural cuteness. Chaffee is what you’ll find from Hollywood.

[@derekw8475]

Ya, I want my old M 53/55 back. One shot-ing T30's with AP was the highlight of my play session.

[@xxsillywabbitxx]

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[@1234femmarc]

The only realy first

[@daletrecartin1563]

"Arty can sit in the back and be safe" except for Bert and the Bishop. They still have to go forward into the heat to do their job, and they got caught in the nerf anyway. Poor ole Bert just isn't what he used to be.

[@Gilvaras]

Short summary: WoT gameplay with Jingles waxing poetic about past glory in WoT.

[@giroromek8423]

Arty relocating between shots: surest way to be called n00b

[@Carstuff111]

Always a great start to the day when a random episode of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is posted :)

[@StabKingPro]

"It didn't used to be the case that the team with the most flavor of the month OP premium tank would win." Tell that to the Type 59

[@christophervanoster]

The best video series ever in the history of mankind. It’s so beautiful

[@qcarr]

Great video, Jingles! Thank you for showing the great Easy 8 match - I still love that little beast, despite the fact that it is definitely NOT overpowered. It can be lots of fun and very rewarding when played like that. Have a great weekend! qcarr, NA

[@kovolis7219]

Thank you Jingles for great replay from todays battles.

[@thomaschase1719]

Never head about the tracer hack. I loved old style artillery play. Skill making sport sporting lended itself to being actual fun.

[@yehuda1990]

"It's because of things like this, that we swapped sides in 1943" - LMAO - I never laughed so hard

[@maddox0110]

When pressed, I go banzai in my arty, even the Bishop or LeFH (Always funny to see how light tanks try to ram those arties) Or, when needed, I go forward. And this was in one of your replays Jingles, Siegfried line, you were commenting on the Chinese TD. I went forward in my Grille.

[@graynorsama9198]

Mr Jingles, the M7 Priest has always been bouncy, back in the day even T29's bounced on it

[@Eliastion]

Correction. AMX 40 actually COULD follow him downhill, with or perhaps even without something giving it a push. The duck has actually very respectable top speed of 50km/h, which would make her a pretty fast tank. The problem is that this top speed is quite hard to achieve because, while the suspension supports it, Frenchmen forgot to install an engine.

[@corpsoundaudio]

Everything you said about Arty is so spot on. It feels like one of those crazy movies where everybody but the main character is clueless. How the hell does Wargaming still miss the point so consistently?

[@sgtwizzleteats4130]

The Luchs driver aid he wanted to finish his coffee😂

[@leelime9857]

made my day when the amx 40 in the first game said ''quack quack'' XD XD (1:07)

[@roberthart3305]

Loved all three replays. Many people dismiss the M4's (E2, E8, Firefly) but they are fairly solid medium tanks. Even with a ridiculous number of tier 10 tanks (around 20), I use my M4's far more than the tier 10s these days. They are just much more fun and enjoyable to play.

[@Kurgosh1]

The Luchs might be the cutest, but Mr. Hetzer and Ms. Matilda are surely in contention for favorite tier 4 murder machine.

[@richardsizemore9293]

A gun that size would have stripped every bush is an understatements, most things at tier 5 and above would strip the bushes if you have ever seen one of these fire, even an american 76mm the percussive blast lays everything down lol. Jingles you funny Love it.

[@mcm95403]

I do counter battery quite often and it's usually helpful. I do pay attention though so that I don't miss available targets.

[@MurderousEagle]

you'll love the stormbucket on console, jingles. It's a luchs with spaced armor and the bofors, so you get an autogun with a short cycle time

[@Kellen6795]

WOO! 30 Minute video! Now to get him back to the old 40-45 minute videos. Please?!!!! Just once in a while?! We love you gnome overlord!

[@CareerKnight]

21:54 Oh they did when it first came out in the beta, I remember a lot of people complaining that it fired way too fast. WG never changed its rate of fire, they just introduced the French and their auto loaders.

[@mmx4gaming12]

Jingles:where's the priest most likely to be Me: probably where the most little boys are

[@rhyshughes2839]

Love the Ace Attorney 'Gotcha!' at the end! 😂😂😂

[@kyrrilos7768]

OMG did not see that coming I've been watching and following jingles for over three years and altho my girlfriend doesn't listen or isn't interested in video games she actually noticed my routine of jingles and breakfast every morning and secretly emailed him for that shout out in his video description. OMG I'm so shocked and happy thank you papa jingles for this.

[@Magavynhigara]

i used to do the counter battery as well, not only did i get compaints from my team the sheer rage i would get from the enemy team was extreme. Had one time when i got 6 kills, 2k damage, but i was to blame for losing the match.

[@ThomasWinget]

That easy 8 game reminded me of a lot of my T37 games on my way to 3-marking it. Only fired gold when I had to and carried a fair number of tier 8 games much like this one...even on this map.

[@five5105]

I'm no artillery player, but guzzling down a bucket of Mountain Dew sounds delicious.

[@StrwbryCoyote]

My prayers have been answered, a thirty minute video of WOT

[@PureZOOKS]

Hearing jingles talk about arty shows that he really hasn't played WoT in a long time.

[@CmdrChrisArcher]

The only good thing that comes with waking up early is seeing the "uploaded > 1 hour ago."

[@samuelt7438]

that last second of the video was pure gold

[@scottdrone-silvers5179]

Well played, sir. You’re my kind of devious Gnomish overlord...

[@Straswa]

Great vid Jingles! Really liked the E8 replay, well played UnderlyingIssues.

[@PrivateWillyRichardJohnson]

The fact that even 1 of fresh paints "teammates" shot at 2 different tanks is a miracle to behold and almost wet yourself in WOT. (Wargaming dev laughing in the distance)

[@GemDragon99]

Just really like "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" series, jingles, thanks for some good content :)

[@gregoryeverett9811]

Holly Space Jiz Jingles, no one would ever accuse you of that!

[@StrwbryCoyote]

10:08 " I just wanted to finish my coffee" in the chat 😂😂