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The Mighty Jingles

The Mighty Jingles

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@DERP_Squad
@DERP_Squad Жыл бұрын
Actually Jingles... The quote "There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today" was from Admiral Beatty, not Admiral Jellicoe. Don't worry though, it was entirely his fault for pressuring the officers and men to remove the safety systems in an attempt to improve rate of fire, resulting in spare charges being held in the turrets, and interlocks between the magazines and handling rooms being removed. Further, don't worry more, this had no detrimental effect on his career, as he went on to be First Sea Lord between 1919 and 1927.
@WalterReimer
@WalterReimer Жыл бұрын
The Mad Minute worked well for the Army; not necessarily as well for the Navy.
@DERP_Squad
@DERP_Squad Жыл бұрын
@@WalterReimer Though, the Army did tend to avoid purposefully setting up their artillery magazines to explode if the enemy had the audacity to return fire.
@pologoone6639
@pologoone6639 Жыл бұрын
AND. Jingles did voice-over work in Drachinifels excellent battle of Jutland videos.
@alandowney5851
@alandowney5851 Жыл бұрын
All true. But the armour on the battlecruisers could be penetrated directly anyhow. Indefatigable (6" armour) was likely sunk by a direct magazine penetration. As was the Hood. And British cordite, unlike German cordite (see Seydlitz), exploded rather than burned....
@LewisPulsipher
@LewisPulsipher Жыл бұрын
Last I knew, this is regarded as an apophrycal quote (that is, did not actually happen). But it's a good story.
@filipkotlaja8697
@filipkotlaja8697 Жыл бұрын
"Howdy folks, hope you're all having a good one, and welcome back to World of Broken Replays with Rear Admiral Jingles"
@shoesr21
@shoesr21 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@IndyBrainWave
@IndyBrainWave Жыл бұрын
Saw Flambass rush the middle of Two Brothers in an aircraft carrier once, and *still* made it work. It was just jaw-dropping.
@tsunami729
@tsunami729 Жыл бұрын
In a carrier!? What did he do, go the Daniel Rusev route and made it a secondary build carrier?
@sunshower6560
@sunshower6560 Жыл бұрын
@@tsunami729 Wouldn’t surprise me if he went balls deep with the Zeppelin.
@treycorbin1828
@treycorbin1828 Жыл бұрын
​@@tsunami729 I believe he was in Kaga if the original comment is about the same match im thinking of. He had 2 division mates as well.
@naggarond
@naggarond Жыл бұрын
Flambass could sail a turd down the middle of two brothers and still make it work!! That guy is just hilariously epic 😂😂😂
@lvthud
@lvthud Жыл бұрын
@@sunshower6560 Nope, it was a Kaga kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJzXZ32Vgtx8qKM&t
@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll
@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that the floating storages of aviation fuel and ammo known as CVs are one of the classes (can you guess the second?) which are immune to *Detonation.*
@benhall7574
@benhall7574 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't it Admiral Beatty who said something along the lines of, "there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today"?
@joshuahughes5647
@joshuahughes5647 Жыл бұрын
And our bloody system. He made this remark after Queen Mary blew up while he was chasing Hipper’s Battlecruiser Squadron. Come on Jingles.
@johnfisher9692
@johnfisher9692 Жыл бұрын
It was Beatty who said that to his Flag Captain Chatfield.
@Joel-tv2tt
@Joel-tv2tt Жыл бұрын
"Uuuuh actually Jingles"
@DERP_Squad
@DERP_Squad Жыл бұрын
@@johnfisher9692 Beatty then went on to blame his failures on his Flag Officer, Seymour, whom he employed in that role knowing that Seymour wasn't qualified as a Flag Officer and hadn't completed training in fleet communications. Seymour had a mental breakdown and died by suicide in the early 20s after Beatty essentially publicly laid the blame for the losses at Jutland on his shoulders.
@korbell1089
@korbell1089 Жыл бұрын
@@DERP_Squad the sign of a good leader...always make sure there is someone in line to take the blame if things go South!
@domhardiman6437
@domhardiman6437 Жыл бұрын
Jingles videos are such a joy and a pleasure. No matter hwo crap the day is, listening to his knowledge and laughter is just the fucking best.
@alanhughes6753
@alanhughes6753 Жыл бұрын
The G3 design were actually very, very powerful and had an armour scheme that was unsurpassed by any other battlecruiser; in fact the armour was better than some battleships. The N3 design, the battleship companions to the G3s, would have had guns matching the Yamato class and armour that was even thicker. Vert much kick-ass ships had they been built.
@forcea1454
@forcea1454 Жыл бұрын
World of Warships doesn't measure all-or-nothing internal armour schemes that well, so ships with that armour schemes end up eating significant amounts of penetration damage on the unarmoured parts of their hulls and superstructures.
@Trigm
@Trigm Жыл бұрын
Exactly. My favorite discription of the G3s goes like so: An Iowa class, but 20 years earlier, and with better armor. Yeah, don't tell me these things were badly protected, also, imagine the refit potential.
@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ
@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ Жыл бұрын
@@forcea1454 WOWS doesn’t measure any armour schemes very well. Ships that don’t have the all or nothing style just get chewed to bits through their superstructure.
@novatopaz9880
@novatopaz9880 Жыл бұрын
The last time WoWS accurately did citadel armor, was also the last time there was only 2 tech trees in the game.
@Driver-ur9mf
@Driver-ur9mf Жыл бұрын
​@@novatopaz9880 Cleveland has two cits, small ones. Somehow it grew vertically a lot, and runs nose to tail. But, once upon a time ...
@nighthawk7485
@nighthawk7485 Жыл бұрын
Can we take a second to appreciate the final map position of the Haarlem? Still protected by that island, long after the carrier had left.
@abhoren13
@abhoren13 Жыл бұрын
"There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today" Adm David Beatty
@mynameiswritinwater
@mynameiswritinwater Жыл бұрын
....and historically Jingles is wrong : The British BCs (HMS Indefatigable, HMS Queen Mary and HMS Invincible - ironic name there ) all got blown to pieces (well detonated in the WoWs' sense) by German 11" Battlecruiser Guns, not the 13"-15" guns deployed by the BB in that battle. While the German Battlecruisers - better armoured with smaller guns (11" vs 12" and up to 15" in in HMS Renown and HMS Repulse ) took a monstrous pounding by everyone and every shell type including 15" shell hits ( on KMS Seydlitz ) but made it home safely except for KMS Lützow who sank on the way back because on the retreat she could not be assisted in pumping out her smashed bows. Goes to show : you can build sturdy BCs who do their job and make it home, just't don't follow the "pack of cats" doctrine with speed as their armour that the Royal Navy espoused
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын
If Beatty had self-awareness, it would have been 'there's something wrong with my gunnery practice, flag officer and my own brain today'
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын
@@mynameiswritinwater Nothing wrong with speed as your armour in practice or theory. Just don't send them into battle with lax safety standards and poor gunnery against large caliber enemy weapons. Even if Beatty had been more competent, they still weren't designed for that. Notably, he squandered the large range advantage the bigger guns on his BCs compared to their German equivalents due to incompetence, robbing the British of the opportunity to counter superior German armour with their superior guns.
@Wolfeson28
@Wolfeson28 Жыл бұрын
@@mynameiswritinwater Technically, the 11 and 12-inch guns on the German BCs were the same guns as what their BBs had. The German capital ships just used smaller guns than the British ones across the board. Also, part of the reason several German ships survived as much of a pounding as they did was that the British shells at the time were largely defective. Properly-functioning shells would have sunk at least a couple more German BCs, though it's certainly true that the German BCs were more durable than the British ones.
@psychoshy211
@psychoshy211 Жыл бұрын
​@@silverhost9782 it also doesn't help when all the battle cruisers ignore safety standards and keep all of the bulkhead doors open to increase reloading speed, effectively increasing the size of the magazines outside of their armor protection and ensuring a massive chain reaction when they got hit.
@davidlabedz2046
@davidlabedz2046 Жыл бұрын
Jingles, thank you for providing some fun listening and a few laughs this morning!!
@brennanodea1878
@brennanodea1878 Жыл бұрын
I almost wanted to correct the mighty jingles when he was describing a carrier as a citadel from the water line to the flight deck. I was on the now decommissioned USS John F Kennedy. Older carrier. As I wasn't in the air wing explosive departments, I have seen them parading bombs and missles around not only the hangar Bay but also the flight deck. A small elevator brought up the ordnance to the hangar Bay from a protective hold deep in the ship. And then the ordnance went to the flight deck by way of the big elevators. So, yeah. During combat, a carrier IS a probably the best Pickens for instant clapping of their a$$ cheeks.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 Жыл бұрын
It is very ironic that people obsess about the battleships that were sunk by airpower when it was the aircraft carriers that were really the most vulnerable to air attack. Basically no battleships sailing as part of a major fleet going at speed in open water were lost to aircraft, all the BBs sunk being either surprised at anchor like at Pearl Harbor or traveling with little to no support, allowing airpower to overwhelm them like Operation Ten Go. Meanwhile, be it Midway or other battles, even well-protected CVs with lots of escorts were being lost regularly because it only took one good hit to start an uncontrollable death spiral for the carrier.
@crazywarriorscatfan9061
@crazywarriorscatfan9061 Жыл бұрын
Currently sick but still need to go to school. Thank you Jingles for this slight reprieve. Also, no DDs in this battle. First time I've seen that before
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 Жыл бұрын
Small correction: the G3's were actually very well armoured. Much like Hood, they would've been fast battleships, just twenty years early. The G3 design was actually, on paper, superior to most WW2 battleships.
@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ
@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ Жыл бұрын
I mean, you can say that about anything. Doesn’t mean it holds any bearing in reality. I could make a BB designed with superior armour to any other ship, four quadruple turrets of 510 rifles, and a top speed of 40kts, but that doesn’t mean it’s actually possible to make it.
@troopieeeeee
@troopieeeeee Жыл бұрын
@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ work started on the G3s, they were only cancelled because of the washington treaty. they absolutely could have, and would have been built. and if completed, they would have been the most powerful ships afloat.
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 Жыл бұрын
​@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ The G3's weren't fantasy designs. The Royal Navy completed the design work and were on the cusp of laying down the first keel when the Washington Naval Treaty forced the class's cancellation. The G3's numbers are faily accurate to what the ships would've been like.
@chaingun1701
@chaingun1701 Жыл бұрын
Actually Jingles it was Admiral Beatty who said, "there seems to be something wrong with out bloody ships today." Jingles? *Shotgun cocking*
@dylantaylor6766
@dylantaylor6766 Жыл бұрын
Another day, another battle. Thanks for the video as always! :]
@drrocketman7794
@drrocketman7794 Жыл бұрын
"Thor's ass cheeks remain un-clapped." Well, there's a reason why you are called Rear Admiral Jingles
@exodocian
@exodocian 10 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@TheStefanskoglund1
@TheStefanskoglund1 Жыл бұрын
The turret layout in the G3 design is basically another type of compromise - we need even with a long ship a lot of power = large machinery spaces (with 1920 tech) We would like this armament = this type of ammu How to maximize ? Put the magazines fairly close together with the machinery spaces aft (and use most of our armour budge for these areas.) A large queen Anne mansion for the command crew between B and X gun battery. We need a fair bit of armour for installations in the mansion... !
@shaytheswift_4327
@shaytheswift_4327 Жыл бұрын
The mental image of someone getting their ass clapped from the front was quite interesting to say the least.
@bofoenss8393
@bofoenss8393 Жыл бұрын
Actually Jingles... Sorry, but couldn't resist. It is somewhat of a myth that battlecruisers were not designed or meant to go up against battleships. In Fisher's initial meetings with the board he had set down to envision and specify the specifications for these new fast armoured cruisers, there was a specific point that was brought up again and again in the design phase. They were not only meant as a fast scouting force but also to act as the fast division of the battle line, to steam ahead and cross the enemy's T. They were meant to go up against battleships from the very beginning. And if you see Beatty's deployment of his battlecruisers once he joined up with the Grand Fleet, he did exactly that. Positioned his division ahead of the battle line to act as the line's fast division.
@thegeneral123
@thegeneral123 Жыл бұрын
Unlocked this ship a few days ago. Really good ship if you understand angling and overmatch game mechanics.
@VorTheRhino
@VorTheRhino Жыл бұрын
Watching this at work, air pods decide to swap to my phone randomly just in time for my laptop to play out loud in the office: "Thor's rosey arse cheeks remain unclapped" LOL
@korbell1089
@korbell1089 Жыл бұрын
Whoops! 🤣🤣
@Mark_Bickerton
@Mark_Bickerton Жыл бұрын
Jellico? It was Beatty that said that!
@AdmiralMidway
@AdmiralMidway Жыл бұрын
Hurray! Jingles upload
@gblowe62
@gblowe62 Жыл бұрын
It has been a long time since I laughed out loud on watching a video, but I salute your humor by laughing out loud during the Kearsarge part.
@korbell1089
@korbell1089 Жыл бұрын
Jingles:"They're all glass cannons." :Hood has entered the chat😄
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын
Hood's belt armour was actually comparable to a North Carolina Class Battleship, so jokes and unlucky hits aside, she wasn't really a glass cannon
@waverleyjournalise5757
@waverleyjournalise5757 Жыл бұрын
Hood was designed with a similar level of armour protection to the Queen Elizabeth class BBs: try calling Warspite fragile.
@deltazeta5506
@deltazeta5506 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing about the kearsarge. He is running an ammo det flag to prevent citadels. His flight deck is a massive AP sponge cause it never damage saturates. Can say this from experience of both fighting and playing kearsarge.
@macherooni
@macherooni Жыл бұрын
That poor Albemarle though, that thing is basically a t5 cruiser stuck at t8. Show a bit of broadside = instant boom.
@lorddatastorm7139
@lorddatastorm7139 Жыл бұрын
Jingles, I just got the Duncan.
@jgalena
@jgalena Жыл бұрын
I love seeing aggressive gameplay from someone that knows what they're doing.
@draigaur9543
@draigaur9543 Жыл бұрын
Can I applaud the non clapping of the clappable rosey parts!
@boomboomf2268
@boomboomf2268 Жыл бұрын
Worth noting that the British BCs lost at Jutland was during the run south while they were fighting the German BCs, something they *were* intended to do. Additionally as evolutions of the Armoured Cruiser concept BCs were actually intended from the start for most nations as secondary battleline units. It's only really the Americans and some of the very early Brit BCs that were intended to disengage during a fleet action. By the time you get to the G3 design proposals of the early interwar they are clearly still BCs, but have significantly better armouring.
@boomboomf2268
@boomboomf2268 Жыл бұрын
Additionally, forgot to mention it, but WG, modeling of AP performance, "overmatch" and angling is.... incredibly iffy. How a ship and it's armour layout performs in WoWs isn't even vaguely accurate to reality, especially when discussing AoN style armour layouts.
@imjashingyou3461
@imjashingyou3461 Жыл бұрын
Got to note. While the G3 was never built. The Keel was laid. So the designs were finalized and not unengineered sketches like most of a certain other nation. Edit: according to drach the G3 should have been better armored then an Iowa and KGV. So there's wargames bullshit.
@drhoagy_4459
@drhoagy_4459 Жыл бұрын
I've never taken a trip to the salt mines... but wasn't it Beatty who said the "there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today" line not Jellicoe?
@troopieeeeee
@troopieeeeee Жыл бұрын
yeah jingles got a lot wrong this vid. that's ok he's our entertaining old man, just don't take him too seriously when he talks history
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila Жыл бұрын
For a moment, I thought that this was the Type 45 destroyer... then I realized that this was the never-built G3 battlecruiser. Then I learned that the crazy WoWS driver #Flambass was driving it! Yup, just another classic game of his...
@kyleroach-smith1291
@kyleroach-smith1291 Жыл бұрын
This wasn't flambass, jingles was just talking about him cuz he's known for two brothers
@kristoffermangila
@kristoffermangila Жыл бұрын
@@kyleroach-smith1291 oh, my bad... oh well.
@CED99
@CED99 Жыл бұрын
Once Mr Torpedo has left the launcher, he's not your friend
@02961
@02961 Жыл бұрын
i love that quote from mr. Jingles when he was playing cold waters and got nuked by his own fish xD
@elijahdaves1305
@elijahdaves1305 Жыл бұрын
Battlecruisers...eggshells armed with sledgehammers.
@glennlockley9087
@glennlockley9087 Жыл бұрын
It was Admiral Beattie who made the comment about there seems to be something wrong with our ships today not Jellicoe. This after Princess Royal wax reported to have been blown up when she was actually covered by smoke and gun salvo splashes
@KorbinX
@KorbinX Жыл бұрын
Hey Jingles appreciate the videos
@CS-zn6pp
@CS-zn6pp Жыл бұрын
WoWS and the word "Bugged" seem so natural together.
@satyrangel2730
@satyrangel2730 Жыл бұрын
jingles welcome back!!!!!!!!
@BottomOfTheBarrelGaming
@BottomOfTheBarrelGaming Жыл бұрын
Earliest I've ever been to a jingles vid blessed to be here this early lol
@Fitzwalrus06
@Fitzwalrus06 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently grinding through the British battlecruiser tech tree. The lack of armor makes them challenging and I frankly wasn't having that much fun with the lower tier ships, but I'm up to Hawke at T8 now and it is a surprisingly good ship - I had one of my best ever games in it yesterday. As Jingles said, you have to recognize your shortcomings while playing to your strengths and you can do well... just don't think you can go head-to-head with REAL battleships! 😳 I wasn't aware the T9 was a G3 design - something to look forward to.😎👍
@dundermuff3402
@dundermuff3402 Жыл бұрын
Really? I'm at the Hawke and the guns, at least for me, have been surprisingly poor. I haven't enjoyed it too much, which is a shame because I was fine with the grind until I got the tier 8.
@Fitzwalrus06
@Fitzwalrus06 Жыл бұрын
@@dundermuff3402 It may well depend on the situation. Yesterday I had one of my best games ever in the Hawke: today I got smacked and sunk almost immediately. In any ship if you get in a bad situation and can't escape easily you're going to get hurt: a battlecruiser's lack of armor just makes things that much worse. I do find the Hawke's larger guns more effective than the earlier tier ships - that may just be me.
@dundermuff3402
@dundermuff3402 Жыл бұрын
That's fair. The 406's are certainly nice when cruisers try and bow in. Although I've had terrible luck on broadside cruisers for some reason.
@Fitzwalrus06
@Fitzwalrus06 Жыл бұрын
@@dundermuff3402 It all depends on RNG. Yesterday I obliterated several broadside cruisers; today I blasted away all (admittedly short) game before finally sinking an Atago. It is what it is.
@erics.786
@erics.786 Жыл бұрын
I think it appropriate that the British had a Naval Admiral named 'Goodenough" speaks so well of the standards involved..
@bella_ciao4608
@bella_ciao4608 Жыл бұрын
I really hope we get a N3 as a premium T10 British BB, maybe steel or coal
@freezoneproject567
@freezoneproject567 Жыл бұрын
Hell yes, just a couple days ago I watched Flambass push Two Brothers mid in the Graf Zeppelin.
@DJAvren
@DJAvren Жыл бұрын
As per your video description, these Dutch people don't just keep popping up in your videos, they are also sneaking into your comment section! Take that Jingles! And have a pleasant day. Ow and that Haarlem was thoroughly useless. The friendly carrier went further ahead than that ship did. Sad Dutch noises.
@Custerd1
@Custerd1 Жыл бұрын
Actually, Jingles, I've citadeled many a carrier (though not a hybrid) even with HE shells.
@thebladeofchaos
@thebladeofchaos Жыл бұрын
I love that somehow the ship designers at WGing have gone full British when it comes to ship designs now. The age of the Battleship ended, and yet they want to make Battlecarriers
@quoniam426
@quoniam426 Жыл бұрын
I nearly only had good games with that ship. I like the Duncan. As a matter fact Jingles, Bismarck and affiliates' turtleback armor scheme has one weakness. It's very vulnerable to 45 degree from the bow or stern at whatever range. You can joust a Bismarck and punch right through it if you fire under turret Anton or Dora at the right angle. Also works on GKs, and other high tier German fatties. On lower tiers, just fire at the bow section with an angle of 45 degrees, it works with other nations BBs as well. I also tried it in Antlantic Fleet. If you don't aim for the center of the ship but under the turrets, a King George can sink a Bismarck in two salvos. I think the Brits didn't know how to really use their guns, they were trained with a 19th Century aiming tactic whereas the engineers where aware of armor angles. In short, Rodney and King Goerge could have sunk the Bismarck much more quickly if they aimed their guns more accurately to tactical effect instead of just pummeling the target down. (of course at too short range, it's not possible...) There is no such thing as a perfect armor scheme in fact.
@adhdengineer
@adhdengineer Жыл бұрын
Was it not "there's something wrong with our bloody ships"
@bombvoyage5686
@bombvoyage5686 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact the G3 battle cruisers were nearly made as the keels had been layed down by the time the Washington naval treaty ended it as well as many other fun big old ships
@chanisarmir5991
@chanisarmir5991 Жыл бұрын
That was a great game. I love those torpedoes! They look drunk, lol
@thomasduhamel6766
@thomasduhamel6766 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that there's a panasian dd lurking around where there's actually no dd in that match
@solanine9205
@solanine9205 Жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, that Ibuki HAD about two thirds of its health before the captain was reminded that he's in a cruiser. Thor just managed to finish the poor bastard off.
@TheColombianSpartan
@TheColombianSpartan Жыл бұрын
Hello Jingles! Hope you're having a great day!
@daviddunster9305
@daviddunster9305 Жыл бұрын
Admiral Jellicoe.. " The prelude to Battle is the responsibility of the Engine Room Department."
@bob-qb9gw
@bob-qb9gw Жыл бұрын
hybrids are so fun to play with was havin fun in my gebard we had ise that playd his ship like a cw sat behind an ilsand
@TheKazragore
@TheKazragore Жыл бұрын
14:25 Was...was that an Ace Rimmer reference?
@davidwhitfield6025
@davidwhitfield6025 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see some know their history and who said what (and that it was his fault that the Battlecruisers were more vulnerable than they should have been).
@PanzerFalcon2232
@PanzerFalcon2232 Жыл бұрын
The torpedos are so comical "Go go gadget torpedo!" ~~~~~~~
@markfrank3307
@markfrank3307 Жыл бұрын
Morning Mighty Jangles
@firehawkdelta
@firehawkdelta Жыл бұрын
12:26 -- citadel on a Russian BB giving full broadside at point-blank range? I call hax! That's impossible unless Thor was using some kind of cheat. 🤣
@SurplusMarket
@SurplusMarket Жыл бұрын
If the Kearsarge is anything like the new hybrid US line, it’s hard to cit not because of the flight deck, but because the entire citadel is underwater.
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084
@nigeldeforrest-pearce8084 Жыл бұрын
Marvelous!!!!!
@OneBiasedOpinion
@OneBiasedOpinion Жыл бұрын
I think Mid-Rushing on Two Brothers is equal parts Flambass’s fault, and Yuro’s fault. The SEA meme lord put his fair share of work into making it a widespread meme.
@NotTheRookie
@NotTheRookie Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to like the weird turret layout of the Duncan but it hasn't hindered me yet. Quite like her, actually.
@texaswrath1490
@texaswrath1490 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Rear Admiral Jingles
@Some_Guy6
@Some_Guy6 Жыл бұрын
I really wished AA did something. I can shoot a handfull of them down in my Izumo. But it's never ever enough. Especially when you are focused on by a CV.
@finnm.2582
@finnm.2582 Жыл бұрын
You can citadel carriers reliably, but you have to use HE, otherwise it’s overpen.
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the one time a battleship vs battleship duel occurred in the Pacific, IJN Kirishima badly lost to USS Washington who had better radar and aiming systems.
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, that was a 27 year old battlecruiser fighting a brand new fast battleship. And Washington got the first salvos in, since Kirishima was busy pounding the hapless South Dakota. That fight was only going to end one way.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't that at night, though? So of course the radar equipped ships will win.
@GGM_Grievous0030
@GGM_Grievous0030 Жыл бұрын
those torpedoes are so funny to watch, lmao.
@Persian-Immortal
@Persian-Immortal Жыл бұрын
did anyone notice the parachutes of shot down planes?
@NFS_Challenger54
@NFS_Challenger54 Жыл бұрын
The concept of the battlecruiser should have remained in the roll of cruiser hunter/cruiser killer. I don't know what the Royal Navy, ESPECIALLY First Sea Lord Jackie Fisher, were thinking putting battlecruisers in the battleline with full-fledged battleships duking it out with enemy battleships. They shouldn't be considered capital ships because of the roll they're primarily to do. Which is why the USS Alaska was the perfect idea and concept of the battlecruiser doctrine. Not as big as the Iowa-class battleships, but bigger and heavily armed than the Baltimore-class and Des Moines-class heavy cruisers and just as fast. The ships that were envisioned like the Alaska fit the roll of what a battlecruiser really is. Anyways, great video as always, Jingles. Love the history talk you normally put out with these videos.
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын
Comparing 1900s-1910s BCs to Alaska is a bit unfair. Back then, a distinction between fast capital ships and slow capital ships was necessary due to technological limitations, especially in terms of the power plants available. You simply couldn't have BB armour and guns with BC speed on the same ship without trying to build some absurd 100k ton monster. By the time Alaska appeared, BCs weren't even a thing any more, since they had merged with BBs to create the fast battleship concept. At that point, with the extremely cost inefficient nature of the Alaskas, just building fast battleships was a better idea anyway, hence why the Iowas survived significantly longer than Alaska or Guam.
@NFS_Challenger54
@NFS_Challenger54 Жыл бұрын
@@silverhost9782 True. I forgot to factor in the technological limitations between them. Though, it does go without question that even when the Alaska-class was being built, the characteristic of the battlecruiser is there.
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын
@@NFS_Challenger54 I agree, although suggesting that the Alaskas were BCs or even BC-esque does tend to annoy some people i've noticed, so be careful with that one lol
@waverleyjournalise5757
@waverleyjournalise5757 Жыл бұрын
@@NFS_Challenger54 it's not: the Alaskas were designed as bigger Baltimores and had neither the speed nor the guns to be classified as battlecruisers. 305mm guns might have been battleship calibre in early WW1 but by WW2 they wouldn't even have been considered.
@NFS_Challenger54
@NFS_Challenger54 Жыл бұрын
@@silverhost9782 Hey, I'm American and it doesn't bother me one bit.
@ninetenduh
@ninetenduh Жыл бұрын
Honestly, two borthers middle rush meme has always been a thing, when I still had people I could play with we always went through it, and for some utterly braindead reason, we mostly succeeded. Also, people still underestimate the British Battlecruiser line, the Duncan and St.vincent are straight up broken. They can outrun cruisers, keep up with some DD's. guns hit like a truck, have good reload, British HE, wiggle torps can also hit like a truck, have low cooldown, reprint half your HP. It took forever for people to wake up and see just how broken they are. Also, Sejong has 4x4 tubes on two sides and a Torpedo reload booster, sooo, you can send out 32 torps out rather quickly.
@RamonInNZ
@RamonInNZ Жыл бұрын
The Talon probably got caught on a submerged rco/part of the island.
@simonmorris9877
@simonmorris9877 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy two brothers, this should be fun
@fallenpalladin
@fallenpalladin Жыл бұрын
#ActuallyJingles the PA Cruisers have smoke and torp reload booster
@Biggsgaming
@Biggsgaming Жыл бұрын
“Clap his asscheeks from the front” Jingles 😂😂😂
@tsuaririndoku
@tsuaririndoku Жыл бұрын
Bismarck: *Killed British Battlecruiser* Also Bismarck: It ain’t much, but it’s honest work.
@theredeyedt9057
@theredeyedt9057 Жыл бұрын
I mean to be completely fair to the British during the Battle of Jutland, at least 2 of the 3 battle cruisers (HMS Indefatigable and HMS Queen Mary) were sunk by Admiral Hipper’s battle cruisers. It was only HMS Invincible that was sunk by german battleships.
@Gothmog2266
@Gothmog2266 Жыл бұрын
it was Beatty not Jellicoe...a Royal Navy man really should know that.
@Ushio01
@Ushio01 Жыл бұрын
G3 battlecruiser armour was as thick as WW2 battleship armour using new boiler tech and a flat stern (can’t remember the name).
@Taliyon
@Taliyon Жыл бұрын
I sure hope we can stay safe until the next video!
@thomasbernecky2078
@thomasbernecky2078 Жыл бұрын
Jingles: you assignment now is to watch all of Drach's Dry Dock episodes (in entirety) going back to the dawn of time for that one...even I, an unschooled former Colonial know the correct answer to that one?
@AdmiralSpaceballs
@AdmiralSpaceballs Жыл бұрын
are the hybrid things out yet ? if not when ?
@leetonge5171
@leetonge5171 Жыл бұрын
when did they add the aa gun effects? Hvaent played it for a while
@TrueCanad1an
@TrueCanad1an Жыл бұрын
I can tell I am not a WOWS player. My 1st though was to sail a carrier down that channel between the islands.
@andreassjoberg3145
@andreassjoberg3145 Жыл бұрын
A battlecruiser is a battleship wearing bathing trunks, wifebeater and golfcap.
@jaquigreenlees
@jaquigreenlees Жыл бұрын
battle cruisers are fun to play. just have to remember they are squishy.
@deadmeat_0152
@deadmeat_0152 Жыл бұрын
wish the Forrest Sherman torps worked like the Duncan
@freddieellis8449
@freddieellis8449 Жыл бұрын
That quote about Battlecruisers is from Beatty,not Jellicoe.
@TeddyBelcher4kultrawide
@TeddyBelcher4kultrawide Жыл бұрын
Thankful for cool vid
@ericsanchez785
@ericsanchez785 Жыл бұрын
just played against a game against a Duncan, it is so broken. the repair is so fucking OP
@Chris-yc3mm
@Chris-yc3mm Жыл бұрын
The torpedoes are meant to work like that?
@TechLeafRanger
@TechLeafRanger Жыл бұрын
.....*awkwardly glances at the full health Serov that I got two citadels against and deleted from existence earlier today while driving my Hyuga* Admittedly, was World of Warships: Legends on the XBone, so I'm sure there will be people screaming 'that doesn't count', but well...there you have it.
@garythornton2593
@garythornton2593 Жыл бұрын
OMG THATS ME! YOU MADE MY DAY
@captbumbler5356
@captbumbler5356 Жыл бұрын
Great game have not tried the BC yet will have to start, I think he wanted revenge for the Hood, After all a single torp hit did in a way cause the Bismarcks death
@Hendog1001
@Hendog1001 Жыл бұрын
Ughh jingles it wasn’t jellicoe who said that quote that was admiral sir David Beatty who was in charge of the British battle cruisers at Jutland…@themightyjingles
@petermgruhn
@petermgruhn Жыл бұрын
[incendiary bombs] Well said.
@mkang8782
@mkang8782 Жыл бұрын
"Akshually, Jingles..." I have citadeled plenty of CVs that weren't low health. And Pan-Asian cruisers get a torpedo reload booster starting at T8 (maybe T7?)
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