World of Warships - Smoke Me A Kipper, Skipper

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[@MrLBPug]

You have featured a Graf Zeppelin video years ago in which the player wreaked havoc with the secondaries WITHOUT the benefit of smoke screens. That was before the carrier rework, if I'm not mistaken, and the range of the secondaries was so long that nobody expected to be hit by them. The Ta 152C variant was the low-to-medium altitude variant of the Ta 152, so technically it could be used for ground attack or even as a torpedo bomber. The Ta 152H was the medium-to-high altitude interceptor variant for use against bombers.

[@TrailblazerAlpha]

There was actually another one after rework, with the same CV...and the same player.

[@TrailblazerAlpha]

Found the old one kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJiVh4OPr7B7j5I

[@JyWalker1603]

I believe it's titled "bring me closer, I want to hit them with my sword"

[@kristoffermangila]

That's the one thing I hate about Graf Zeppelin: the Focke-Wulf birds were not historic to this ship. Its aircraft complement were Bf 109Ts (essentially Bf 109Es with a tailhook) and Ju 87Ds modified as torpedo bombers.

[@kristoffermangila]

Also, if there would have been a replacement for the Bf 109Ts, it would have been the Me/Bv 155.

[@mattmountanian844]

Legally? It's questionable Morally? It's disgusting Personally? I like it

[@mynameiswritinwater]

not to say lovely to see an old meme making it in... always loved the fact that CVs could aunch and land airplanes while cloaked in dense clouds of smoke^^

[@ChIGuY-town22_]

😅

[@billhanna2148]

Yeah we're only human ffs😅😂

[@mings6491]

Lmao this exact player has been featured doing the exact thing on this exact channel "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword"

[@mings6491]

Well, except without the crawling smoke

[@ParkHillProjects]

Wanted to write that aswell

[@RenzeKoper]

This is just an evolution, siliwangis get Hydro, so you end up with perma hydro as well + Pan Asian smokes that are Hybrid between US and UK DD, means that while alternating you can stay moving almost permanently, there's a 30 or so gap between the smoke of DD2, and DD1s smoke coming back up

[@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES]

An aircraft carrier player with a sword fetish...

[@prometheuslxi3125]

Weren't the dd's bots in that video?

[@thatguy_nick2937]

This is 1: fun as hell to see and 2: disgusting that it's in the game

[@thedon9670]

Thanks for just repeating what Jingles just said multiple times.

[@hokuspokus8766]

Flambas did something similar with Venezia division.

[@dkBybee]

I am surprised, now that Jingles showed it, more carriers don’t do this. OP

[@StrikerWolf91]

@@dkBybee Please don't give the Fun Police ideas xD

[@jonathanflugge3557]

​@@hokuspokus8766That was Flambas.

[@Gladius-XC]

I love the red team player asking “Wanna try a smoke train?” And CV Main answering “What do you mean try?”

[@hendrikgreiner8449]

From a purely visual standpoint i kinda loved the movement together, i'd made it look like a proper, if quite small, carrier task force.

[@vanvan-oc4nj]

Yeah, does look like very good strategic play (well, its a game......) !! !

[@VikingTeddy]

I bet it looks hilarious from the outside. Just an approaching cloud of death.

[@samsadowitz1724]

​@Viking Teddy the very definition of an angry smokescreen

[@MrThemilk14]

So without getting past 45 seconds, I feel a "drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword" video coming and immediately recognised our heroes username from the last time 😂

[@soldierofwessex7616]

considering its the same ship and same player i agree

[@johanmolendijk9811]

“Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast” - Ace Rimmer, Red Dwarf I see what you did there, old man.

[@Kirkmaximus]

Ah, someone with excellent taste in space comedies. o7 mate

[@KorbinX]

I raised my kids on Red Dwarf. I was a bit too young to view it originally but I've made up for that fact by spreading it down the generations ^-^ Cheers ya smegheads!

[@azathoth3700]

Stoke me a clipper, I'll be home for Christmas!

[@Ianskogberg]

"Drive Closer, I want to hit them with my Sword II: Eclectic Bogaloo" The original video was called"Drive Closer etc.." and featured the same player IIRC

[@nickhutton9216]

"Drive me closer~...." lol that was a masterpiece

[@magnuslindgren9460]

Thank you so much, you saved me a lot of time trying to find it 🤗

[@giroromek8423]

Jingles finally succumbed to the Dark side.😅

[@adammarcinkowski-ko3el]

He was allways there , he just come out ;) (You relize that Jingles is so old , in time of his RN duty Battleships where in active service ...)

[@paulvamos7319]

Does he have cookies? 🤣

[@wierdalien1]

​@Huzarion I mean he isn't that old 😂

[@SavageRush012]

​@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el Jingles was born in 1970. The HMS Vanguard, the last Royal Navy BB was retired in 1960.

[@adammarcinkowski-ko3el]

@@SavageRush012 I right Jingles was born 10.03.1970 , in 1989 he joined RN , he is also veteran of Gulf War , in Gulf War USS Missouri was active and provided support fire ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Missouri_(BB-63)

[@old_guard2431]

If WG, in their decidedly finite wisdom, are going to give the players the tools, you can’t really blame them for using them. The Unindicted Co-Conspirator Award should go to Bowfine in the U-190, for helping the smoky boys with spotting and also realizing that they were dangerously close to losing on CAPs.

[@jjdude5531]

I guess. You can also quit playing the game because of BS like this

[@angelapolinar5343]

@@jjdude5531 skill issue

[@jjdude5531]

@@angelapolinar5343 Interesting. On one hand I trashed the one division I've seen try this using my Lo Yang. On the other hand your mom had a skill issue

[@angelapolinar5343]

@@jjdude5531 I know,she broke her back carrying. Literally, so don't laugh about it.

[@Flamus4head]

Automatic secondaries, automatic ASW, automatic DCP, auto pilot, automatic plane regeneration, automatic fighter plane. Great game design Wargaming👍

[@h0rk3d]

Warcheese

[@dany1441]

Perfectly designed for 1/4 of the WG playerbase.

[@connycontainer9459]

Thank you.

[@mattmac4087]

Automatic fighters as well

[@chaosengine4597]

although the Autopilot is less of a feature and more of a trolling easter egg...

[@IceTeaF00t]

"Tier 8 French cruiser the Algerie" Love you so much Jingles, never change!!

[@shortwave737]

The World of Warships team is going to see this video. “Wait a minute! That is extremely overpowered! …. …. We need to nerf destroyer smokescreens!”

[@austink4712]

nah... more of a we need to nerf battleships

[@syzgany8378]

Couple of things here Jingles, 1: The Algerie is a T7 cruiser, 2: You have, in fact, covered this exact GZ build before, in a video called "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword", featuring...Definitely_Noc_A_CV_Main... yep. Also he was Dave in the last video

[@god_of_war_170bc]

ngl when I saw the graf zeppelin thumbnail, I remembered the old graf zeppelin secondaries video

[@arduous222]

And even featuring the same guy!

[@CeltSfodster]

I remember being on the receiving end of this tactic a while back. Saw a random smoke screen slowly crawling towards my Z23 and thought “Aaha! This DD has just done f*cked up” I popped my hydro and headed in balls deep…. Didn’t even make it into hydro range before I got absolutely wrecked by by the sneaky bloody GZ! Lesson well and truly learnt!

[@TheKobiDror]

It wasn't even a blowout match. This was fairly close and therefore even more funny. The 2 DDs were beaten down pretty hard when detected and this division the only ships left alive in the end.

[@BgStalker]

It was fairly close game because of the carrier division, without them this was gone be a miserable defeat.

[@jjdude5531]

Their single division killed all but 1 of the enemy team. His team was basically a non-factor in the match. What great balance ffs

[@virt1one]

The most unfortunate part of this tactic is they deny their team the use of their two DDs because they are exclusively busy escorting their carrier. Meanwhile the enemy has its two DDs running around unchecked. So every time you see a reply of this it's going to be close because the carrier's other teammates don't have targets and no screen to prevent them from getting spotted themselves. Really if you drop into a match like this and see the filth on your team, the best plan is to tag along with the CV and take advantage of the spotting and ASW. That, and maybe hold back a little and keep the caps flipped.

[@sensha5470]

@@virt1one yes, joining it is exactly what you should do. You think this is scary with 3 ships? Imagine something with German Hydro joining the party. And heaven forbid if real firepower joins like an atlanta. The counter to this BTW, as someone who does a very similar thing in a CurryWurst, is to literally just shoot torps at the front of the smoke. That's it no extra details needed.

[@Shicksalblume]

"General Offensive" award alongside the Kraken? Such a well named award for what we've just seen.

[@BPKPhoenix]

The Graf Zeppelin: "WHY CAN'T I HOLD ALL THESE RIBBONS?!"

[@Aabergm]

As soon as I saw the authors name I knew what was coming and I loved every moment of it. I think the previous video was "let me stab you with my sword" or something similar

[@bintan5218]

"Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword"

[@Glowmoff]

I am 100% certain that you've covered cv main doing this exct thing before, I'm getting massive deja vous. Though it's always a blast to see someone gaming the system like this

[@kyleroach-smith1291]

yeah Noc has been featured doing this before

[@TheBaBySiTteR90]

Thanks for covering this game Jingles:) We had a blast playing this! if you guys want to watch more of these shenanigans - we will be live this evening around 6pm cest @ twitch.tv/nocturnalscream ! have a good one everyone :)

[@halucinator1]

You dirty dirty CV main. Glad you got jingles to feature it.

[@bns_victoryleeuw9233]

This is the way.

[@mynameiswritinwater]

the force (and the secondaries ) are strong in this one. Congratz to that cricket score

[@illiaflannery7312]

christ almightly. I remember that last smoke train graf zepplin game being a goofy fun time but this was just cartoonish. Have we seen 10 kills before? that was a wild match to watch

[@PaulFurber]

This was as fun to watch as Ban This Sick Filth when Flambass goes out with two friends in Italian cruisers with leapfrog smokescreens and blows everyone away.

[@mojom.9221]

Ah Yes, the Empire Strikes Back Again. We saw this in "Drive me closer I want to hi him with my sword" very reat to see this still works

[@simonmorris9877]

I can only say "if it's stupid but it works"

[@ServantOfOdin]

Funny sidenote from a German here. cigarette in Germany has the casual term Kippe....

[@korbell1089]

That was pure evil!!👹 I love watching when someone thinks outside the box then makes it work.😃

[@trevorconnatser6161]

It’s been over 7 years since I watched the Christmas Special Panzer 2D video you made on World of Tanks, and you’re still a goat today Jingles

[@Hightierian]

its so cool to see them work like this together like a convoy.

[@PanzerFalcon2232]

Would you like your kipper for breakfast, Jingles?

[@aaronjeroski3489]

I remember the zeppelin when it was introduced and actually participated in the zeppelin's rework that happened directly after it was introduced. I remember that the ship itself always seemed strong, the problem and all the testing I did always seemed to be trying different aircraft strike arrangements and the parameters, it was a fun experience, too bad Wargaming isn't the same anymore.

[@starflame34]

19:26 I mean, you COULD, but it'd be more difficult. I think part of why he got away with it is cause it's a T8 match. It'd be a lot trickier at T10 where radar is more likely.

[@09epyon]

Jingles: wait I promise, this isn't what is looks like! Us: hmmm.... doesn't it?

[@daszieher]

In all honesty, the Ta152 was not only a high-altitude interceptor. The Ta152H subvariant with extended wingspan, pressurised cockpit and GM1 (NOS)/MW50 (water-methanol) injection was. There were also fighters and fighter-bombers planned

[@paulvamos7319]

That was badass and funny to watch! GG and thank you for sending it in. Thank you Mr. J for featuring this awesome, disgusting, funny and wtf replay!

[@cha0sr1pper]

CV Main's second tour of duty on this channel. His first was the video "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword".

[@Cakepotato]

Some could say, Drive me Closer, I Want To Hit Them With My Sword :D

[@DuncanC05]

3 years ago that was, good times 😂

[@rakura]

I'm sorry can we appreciate the sheer amount of coordination this took to pull off along with the dedication to the build itself?

[@draigaur9543]

the sound of the enemy teams cheeks was loud in this one XD

[@anonnymousperson]

Jingles: 0:23 ... but it's not what you think... Me: Actually I'm betting it's exactly what I think. We know exactly what to expect from a Graf Zepplin + 2xDD division replay.

[@Vinemaple]

He was flying a Romeo flag and had the ball-diamond-ball hoisted on his mast... Watching from the viewpoint of a big ship, while destroyers keep pace on either side, takes me back to my fleet support days!

[@mrjockt]

Don’t see how Wargaming can’t adjust the Heinkel to operate from a carrier, they’ve managed to adjust the British Canberra twin engined jet bomber to operate from a British carrier.

[@zoecornish]

next it will be B52s from the USA CV lmao

[@fernandomarques5166]

I mean the Fw 190 A-5/U-14 was right there it had three prototypes that did trials with torpedoes Yes, it was just as bad as the Ta-152C would be on the role, but at least it was trialed

[@tyrusrechs3018]

‘The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider…unnatural.”….Jingles is a sixth lord lol

[@old_guard2431]

Or maybe a Sith Lord, if it weren’t for the *&$# auto-correct.

[@kdog3908]

"CVs are Balans, Tovarisch. Spreadsheet says this." - WeeGee.

[@MerrimanDevonshire]

Master of the Game Mechanics = Most Despised of Enemies

[@jamesfisher5233]

“Trust your Uncle Jingles, it’s gonna be worth it”, is enough words for me today. I’m done with the internet 🤣😭

[@lordstriker7920]

I rememeber the last one, the video was called: "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword"

[@kellhound7227]

The first Graf Zeppelin replay had a lot of warhammer 40k references to commanders wanting to drive their tanks close enough to hit them with their swords! This was both hilarious and sad.

[@thomasgarrison3949]

This is a perfect example of a division working together, for the win! The DD's smoke covered the CV, so the enemy almost never seen where they were taking fatal fire from. I can only dream of ever being in a division this good.

[@kyleroach-smith1291]

Second time Noc has been featured doing this, I find it funny Jingles didn't think to go back and check to see if it was the same player. Noc is known for doing this kind of thing in the same way as Flambass is known for two brothers mid rushing

[@aclevername9381]

This plan has but one glaring weakness....... you must have friends. 😿

[@TheEmmetdocbrown]

A nice Example what a Carrier Strike Force can do. It worked because of the lack of any Radar in this Battle. Edit: I just want to appreciate how good the Platoon performed together.

[@nlforces2079]

♥

[@old_guard2431]

There was the Belfast. But it got consumed by the smoke-breathing Conga line fairly early on.

[@mariuszsobieraj1208]

Traditional WoWs greeting to sub player at 10:55

[@bqcafis1470]

Jingles, now you are in dog house xD

[@sameiler1683]

I do believe that you showed cased this exact player on April 17th, 2020 doing the exact same thing. Glad to see he is continuing to play CVs the right way

[@johnking1896]

' Drive me closer I want to hit them with my sword ' LOL.

[@CatCow97]

One of my favorite battles... Two brothers, a Graf Zepplin, and a DD smoking me. Yeah, I went through the channel. It was epic.

[@jasonfike4548]

The fact that at 12:25 he hits himself with his *own torpedo,* marking the first real time he's been hit the whole game, *and* the fact it did no damage, is just such insult to injury.

[@johnnynielsen3006]

Oh. Sith Overlord Jingles. May the Graf be with you. May the fog of war hide you. And may the salt in the Dead Sea keep you afloat.

[@matthewwadwell6100]

The Graf Zeppelin - as PointyHairedJedi pointed out, is a carrier where the aircraft are the secondary weapons......

[@Rebelrocker69]

Brilliant tactics. As the professional wrestler Ric Flair used to say, "Whatever works, baby! Whatever works! To be the man, you've got to beat the man! And I am the man!"

[@leftcoaster67]

As a Red Dwarf fan. I approve this title.

[@0102rider]

I feel so dirty just from watching this, I can only imagine the amount of scrubing the three of them are going to have to do before they feel clean again.

[@spacebadger21]

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast." Ace Rimmer

[@thurstablelane7567]

Jingles. Sadly yes I’m a console scrub on World of Warships Legends. Myself and two friends divisioned up with a Yolo Emilio, Bismarck & Brandenburg. What we’ve done on a number of occasions is sail towards the enemy at full speed the destroyer leading. Allow the destroyer to pop its rolling high speed smokescreen with both battleships behind, secondary’s only firing away! I’d be lying if all three of us weren’t laughing our heads off when we kept attempting this. I will say, we’ve only been successful once but it’s been bloody hilarious watching other players scramble to try an stop us.

[@PRS9091]

Love the Red Dwarf reference in the title.

[@aaronmaas7843]

12:27, graf hits himself with his own topedo

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

12:25 hahahaha. He torpedoes himself. (doing no damage of course, but still)

[@domhardiman6437]

Version 2.0 of one of my favourite Jingles vids of the past? Yes Please!

[@drrocketman7794]

Definitely Not a Carrier Main is definitely a cheeky bastard.

[@Gadae600]

I feel like i need a shower after watching this

[@MrThePrankstar]

I just wanna say. In his teams defense. When they pull a manouver like this, the rest of the team, get no DD to spot and lay down torpedo cover for them. So any flank, that doesn't have the train coming, are at a disadvantage.

[@jamesquentin7844]

Jingles, I've always thought of your World of Warships videos as some light entertainment but this one had me laughing on the floor. Fell off the sofa!

[@robinsanchez25]

Normally I don't care for Battleship replays or Carrier replays but it was a Jingles video therefore I knew it would be entertaining.😂❤

[@duvagr007]

The Graff Zeppelin is just Germany's first Hybrid battleship, that's all. Nothing super broken about this. :P

[@davidbell5528]

the reason for no smoke firing penalty is probably due to them automatically firing and would often prevent a BB hiding in smoke (as noone other than destroyers even learn they can be turned off)

[@mattmac4087]

I've seen Thunderer being tortured by t8 CV with his AA turned off whole time. Secondary armaments management is way too hard for this playerbase.

[@suryia6706]

Isnt teamwork is what WOWS is about, said absolutely no one?

[@Elenheru]

I find it interesting that I ate a Kipper for the first time ever, and the next morning I see "Smoke me a Kipper, Skipper". I found that I love Kippers, and I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you Jingles!

[@DuncanCaddick]

That could be a new phrase in World of Warships, "Sorry Pal, you really should play another game, because you're just 'One short of Kraken' ... now get of my team!'' 8:00

[@testaccountpleaseignore2653]

The Atlantico has 234 mm secondaries, so that's even more ridiculous to not have a smoke firing penalty on

[@jamesnicholson3658]

My God.. I can feel the cancer forming with every choo choo

[@oskarrasmussen7137]

To be fair, the Graf Zeppelin was basically a heavy cruiser in terms of armor and firepower. Except it had a thicker belt and twice as many guns as the contemporary heavy cruisers. They really liked the idea of aircraft carriers being cruisers that could launch aircraft.

[@TheWiseFool_]

Amazing teamwork, great job to the division, that took pre-planning a good discipline.

[@rbassettjr]

I feel fortunate to have never been matched with this setup. Almost nothing stopping it.

[@ChIGuY-town22_]

A while back, I had asked my fellow salt minners If it was a wise decision to start playing WOW....thank you for the sage advice.

[@sloth0jr]

For the first five minutes I'm gritting my teeth: CV replay, grr.... Then, seeing his division timing their rolling smoke screen so well ... the secondary kills ... CVs moving around .... You got me, I am ashamed to admit. CV so broken.

[@AdvocatusDiaboliFin]

"Trust your Uncle Jingles!" I trusted my uncle once and it did not lead to a fun time. For me.

[@SpardauDebesi]

Don't be sutch an egoist, shere 😏😌

[@tallleprechaun1318]

Jingles: Why aren’t you firing from smoke Graf Zeppelin Fires from Smoke Jingles: How dare you!

[@458DESTRO]

Jingles I don’t know if you know this but the secondary build used to be even better. When they changed it to ships having specific skills for ship type it took a couple of secondary skills away from aircraft carriers.

[@thepiratemongoose8965]

Secondary builds: when you want the game to play itself so you can go out for a smoke instead of getting good

[@Dr_Mauser]

I remember the last time you featured a Secondary build Graf Zepplin with two destroyers trading off smoking duty. I'm surprised he didn't take more blind firing hits. this one was even better.

[@apyllyon]

jingles talking about HE-111H used for naval bomber role, meanwhile Fw-200 C1 kondor at the background:´´bitch please..atleast i could cover the atlantic ocean and you are name dropping him?!´´

[@RichTheEngineer]

Silly Jingles, don't you know that wooden flight decks are immune to 8" AP?

[@jmc7034]

Amazing team work but I’m now going to have to have a wash in disinfectant, scrubbing with a wire brush. Oh so dirty😂😂😂😂

[@peteturner3928]

Ta-152 was actually a much improved variant of the 190 Jumo engined 'Dora' family, which like you say was designed purely as a high altitude bomber interceptor. The FW 190F-8 (with the BMW 801 radial engine) was a very capable torpedo bomber (could also be used a CAS fighter, dive bomber and tank buster - it could do it whilst still being a competent dogfighter too without a bomb load on board), interestingly due to the length of the 1.4 ton torpedo it could carry, this particular version of radial engined version of the 190 family was fitted with a longer tail wheel fitting (for better ground clearance ) and also the larger vertical tail from the Ta-152H, so perhaps the game designers of the 190 variants mixed up, but then again it is Wargaming and they probably just made it up!

[@Aurorik78]

i love weird tactics.!!! and just how bad does his team have to be to have a carrier carry them like that 😅🤣😂

[@billhanna2148]

VERY BAD.... possibly WG's match making going full tilt to compensate 🤔

[@Mthammere2010]

This isn't a wierd tactic, but a well established CB tactic of chain smokin an Atlanta or Cleveland and going GoT Mad Queen: burn the city kind of thing... They just used a secondary barge in the game to do it this time. Meanwhile, if it wasn't for the German Bias, this battle would have been another 11 ship blowout.

[@imjashingyou3461]

Pretty sure why the rest of the team didn't do well and only got one kill, is because by pulling this stunt he as a carrier wasn't providing much spotting or fighter cover outside his own cap, and he took 2 DDs and all of the functions they perform away from the rest of the team. Its horrible team play. Plain and simple. As the rest of the team outside of his immediate area were essentially playing with 2 AFK DDs and an AFK Carrier.

[@Mthammere2010]

@@imjashingyou3461 Ehile the red team had the full monty to back them up. That team still beat up the reds enough for these three blokes to pave their names into fame...

[@jannegrey593]

"Get me closer I want to hit him with my sword" - was I think the title of previous such video.

[@6perk]

Close to where I live, there is a set of the 150mm guns from the Graf Zeppelin on shore. Used as coastal batteries after they were removed from the ship. I Sent photos to you July 13th 2020, if you still have emails from way back in your inbox:)