World of Warships - The Hard Way

[@jonathanwolfe1984]

Any chance of sending these straight-sailing battleships my way? Because in any game I'm in a DD I only run into cagey ballerinas that can dodge raindrops.

[@Winchester1979]

The reason the Medal of Honor that Frank Fletcher got sounds kind of lackluster is because up until 1918 there were no other medals for valor or gallantry - if you did something brave enough for your superiors to take notice, you either got the Medal of Honor or nothing. During WW1, someone in Congress apparently learned about the Victoria Cross, and decided that the highest decoration in the US military needed to be more like that, so he managed to have the Distinguished Service Cross and the Citation Star (renamed the Silver Star in 1932) created so that the Army could still hand out *something* for "lesser acts of valor", while saving the Medal of Honor for real "above and beyond the call of duty and at risk to life and limb" situations. Then the standards were bumped up higher still in 1942, with the addition of the requirement that the act of valor being rewarded had to be "under fire", so the Medal could only be awarded for things that happened in actual combat. The very next year that caused a bit of a bother, because of an incident with a torpedoed troop ship that sank with four US Army chaplains still aboard - the chaplains had organized the evacuation of the ship, and given up both their seats on the lifeboats and their life vests so that more soldiers would live, but since the sinking wasn't immediate and the U-boat didn't stick around, they weren't actually under fire and couldn't get a Medal of Honor. But Congress tried. And tried. And tried. And in the end they decided that if they couldn't give them a Medal of Honor, they'd create a new medal just for them, the Four Chaplains' Medal, of equal standing with the Medal of Honor and with the same benefits. They finally awarded the medals to their next of kin in 1960, and it's never been used again since.

[@craigkulbaba7564]

+Winchester1979 Great info - Thx for that :)

[@luketfer]

+Winchester1979 that's...actually kind of awesome that they went out of their way to invent a new medal purely for those four Chaplins...

[@fredmidtgaard5487]

Great info there! Thanx! I was thinking about other nations. There were combat valor medals in the Prussian army, the 1813 iron cross for instance, but you are right - most medals are either troop medals or orders (Red Eagle, Black Eagle, and so on). Then there was the 1870 iron cross and there came a whole bunch of combat valor medals for each of the German states, but still with the general troop medals as well as the orders there. It stayed much like that during WW1 but in WW2 the Germans focussed a lot on valor. Yes, generals got their knights cross to the iron cross, but most were given for valor in combat. The highest decoration in WW2 was to Hans-Ulrich Rudel in his Stuka airplane, flying 2530 combat missions, destroying 519 tanks, more than 1000 other vehicles, shooting down (in a Stuka!) 9 airplanes, as well as sinking one battleship. He got diamonds, oakleaves, and swords to his knights cross - the only one during the war. He was a devoted Nazi and as such not a good guy, but he still did impressive stuff. After the war, he built up Argentinas airforce and became a mountain climber (on one leg due to war injuries). He died in 1982.

[@zacchampion423]

As a BB driver, I can confirm that a 15-point captain is needed to enable the rudder. 'Tis an advanced skill only for the veterans of WoWS.

[@Angsaar011]

+Zac Champion Indeed, I can confirm that as well. At 16 points, battleship captains enable a skill called: "use your eyes, dolt". Sadly, that one's only for the top .1% of the captains.

[@jordanrendell7168]

Those dislikes are battleship captains

[@jordanrendell7168]

+Dubsy 102 Haha I don't even play wot I just like to watch

[@comandarpotatoe]

not me :3 but i was really in awe or in disappointment cuz really… tier 9 and tier 10 BB got torped by a gunboat… but i still get torped aswell if its a big spread

[@heatherrockwell9012]

jordan rendell As a battleship player who is very good at dodging torpedoes, I find this hilarious.

[@eriktheflyingdutchman8568]

jordan rendell not me

[@commonce420]

jordan rendell That's slightly too little... others must be hiding with embarrassment lol

[@isaacmcdaniel6278]

wait my battleship can turn?

[@i_kemp_bush9523]

yep

[@northernzeus768]

No.. it’s a lie from the Illuminati to sew dissent among battleship players. Stand strong and sail straight!

[@silaskuemmerle2505]

I'm a battleship driver, and I'm embarrassed by the behavior of these oblivious idiots, not all of us are like that

[@Raz0rking]

+Silas Kuemmerle Every time in game when a bb complains about to many dds i tell him/her to NOT drive in a straight line. A few minutes and a bit of straight line driving later said bb gets blown out of the water by multiple spreads of torpedoes.

[@silaskuemmerle2505]

Raz0rking I only complain about too many destroyers with excellent guns, and also aircraft carriers with excellent torpedo bombers

[@Raz0rking]

Silas Kuemmerle for that i drive cruisers and dds =) I dislike driving bbs because of the massive rng they have. Other dds and/or cv aint that much of an issue imho. I might sound pretentious but it aint that hard to evade torps

[@tommeakin1732]

+Silas Kuemmerle I feel this is kind of like Muslims going, "Okay guys, not all of us enjoy crashing planes into buildings at the weekend...."

[@Raz0rking]

Yuvaez i know i know. Taging along with a division mate. I spot a single torp. "Oh look a torp at your left" The others get spotted...my division mate: "Oh fuck!" boom *sinks* A torp seldom comes alone xD But i am very seldom alone in front with a bb. I use ca and dds at meatshie....eh spotters =)

[@TheCanadiaKiwi]

Two world of warships videos in one week!? Jingles I love you!

[@renardgrise]

+ The Mighty Jingles ! It's not surprising that Adm. Fletcher for the Medal of honor... here's some Info on the Congressional Medal of Honor: The criteria for that medal changed throughout time. It was introduced during the American Civil War... and it was the only medal we had, so simple notable actions during the war were recognized with the medal (saving or capturing unit colors for example). This was the case in one way or another until 1963, when requirements for the Medal of Honor were standardized across all branches (the U.S. Navy gave out several during peacetime before standardization!).

[@VFRSTREETFIGHTER]

Best true story about a Fletcher, read about Cmdr. Ernest E Evans, the USS Johnston and its actions at Samar, 1944. That guy, unlike some officers, earned his Medal of Honor the hard way.

[@aaronchan7839]

just to add on to OP's point. The best way to learn more about the USS Johnston and the Battle off Samar would be to read "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors". every sailor and aviator that day was a true hero.

[@GrahamCStrouse]

+Aharon Chan Love that book!

[@VFRSTREETFIGHTER]

+Aharon Chan By James D. Hornfischer. I've read it twice and about everything else I can find about the Battle of Samar and Taffy 3. I have a particular fascination with Cmdr. Evans, he was an interesting man.

[@glennmartin8664]

+Aharon Chan That one has a permanent spot on my bookshelf -- unless of course I'm busying reading it again!

[@Lt_Voss]

+PBRStreetGang The only reason the Johnston stayed afloat as long as it did was because flotation was being provided by Evans' massive clanking balls.

[@Wo_9]

Stupidity exists in all classes jingles.

[@dunkleosteus8331]

+Ragin Kane ouch

[@ancientwisdome8612]

+Klaus Schonn nothing better than torping a dd in smoke with a cruiser

[@mariofan1ish]

+Jonathan Lundborg I've done that in my Yorck before. A Minekaze and an American DD of some sort are in our cap, I go back, the USA DD pops smoke and starts peppering me with his guns, and the Minekaze is nowhere in sight (he was behind another smoke blob, which I thought someone laid down earlier, then ran off). Throw torps out into the smoke, and the USA DD dies, since he opted to not move. Then the Minekaze appears out of the smoke he laid earlier at extremely close range, and he sends his Torps out. It's game over for my Cruiser of course, but the Minekaze forgot something... the Yorck has two Tubes on HIS side, too! Sent those out just before I die, and I watch him turn to avoid them, only to take one up the ass and die. Netted a Devastating Strike for the American and an "It's Only a Flesh Wound!" for the Minekaze. XD

[@RichieW]

+Ragin Kane We enjoy the meme of Battleship drivers being inept and straight line sailing. deal with it.

[@RichieW]

Ragin Kane wat

[@RailsOfTheSouthProductions]

Two WoWS vids and one week??? Who are you and what have you done with the real Jingles!!!!

[@mihpop9733]

+Panzerkampfwagen Focke-Wulf Muhahahahahahahaha

[@lukekilroy6818]

i was just about to say that XD

[@Sleeper800]

In* (you get another week in your life regardless of if there's WoWS videos or not)

[@RailsOfTheSouthProductions]

+Cosmic ... Lolol

[@violettebenjamin2568]

Don't complain

[@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo]

thank you jingles for posting so many replays that just refuse to not hammer the point home of thinking and breathing at the same time is good

[@davidcollings4750]

Why oh why do I never get any enemy teams like this

[@csdn4483]

+david collings I had one like this (in my Fletcher as well) with oblivious BBs, a Yamato and a Montana. Ended up hitting 15 torps in that match, 8 against the Yamato (unfortuneately, didn't sink it) and 6 against a Montana (again, didn't sink it). In both cases, they both just drove in straight lines and didn't turn at all.

[@MrDgwphotos]

+david collings I second that!

[@davidcollings4750]

+Cs Dn I personally drive the battleships and a never dive in Steiger lines only while firing then I manurer because there always a possibility of destroyers and I am glad to say I have been hit by Torps but never killed by a whole salvo of em and when I feel like dds I jump into my fubuki but still never a game like that

[@xGrizzliex]

Jingles, you truly are an awesome commentator. I don't laugh in any WOWS videos....until I watch yours and you laugh. Keep it up, dude.

[@persnicketyVC]

"It's that bloody boa..." *NO!* _It's that activity undertaken solely for pleasure embedded into a computing device smeared in such human hemoglobin that pertains to such heavily armored water vehicles that are specifically designed to rain down utter destruction onto the enemy!_

[@grievous1938]

For this, you sir deserve the internet. Give this man a prize!

[@Zarphon]

Hey Jingles! Im one of those battleship-players and i would just like to say..... This replay was hillarious xD Props to 0BlackSkull0 for this, impressive how he managed to skim the very edge of the detectionrange with so many enemy ships around. 100% deserving of that win and recognition :)

[@BoZoiD57]

Can I have BBs like these on the enemy team, all mine can see my torps the moment I dump them

[@Ushio01]

+BoZoiD57 Never sail alone, follow you BB's and when they start being fired on then you fire torps like this guy. If you sail alone and spot the BB's and they can't see any BB's themselves that's when they turn a lot.

[@moffjendob6796]

+BoZoiD57 I still have a miserable "land X number of torps in one battle" daily sitting there... mocking me. STOP TURNING YOU COWARDS

[@FredRated1967]

The_One_BoZoiD - Probably more like they see you turning to unleash your torpedoes and turn to avoid

[@ThePreacherJD]

I'm a bb captain and I just want to say, never stop ripping into bb captains. I learned from your videos and my gameplay has dramatically increased. Thanks for good work!

[@George-jg9sy]

I am a Japanese Destroyer user as well as an American Battleship user. Adjusting speed and course occasionally in a Battleship does the trick. End of story. Tip : in the bottom right side of the screen there is something called a ''Minimap'' , guess what, it is a minimap, have a look there too from time to time...

[@233Deadman]

+Don Corleone as a Japanese battleship and destroyer player, I agree. but you know, turning the rudder from left to right and altering the throttle is an extremely complicated art, especially when you need to fire guns as well. seiously though, this shouldn't happen at high teirs. Yes, there will always be some you can't avoid, especially if the enemy carrier knows what he's doing, or there is a wolfpack of DDs on the enemy team who are able to work together efficiently, and you take incoming from multiple angles at once, but these should be exceptions, not the rule. And Battleship players claiming torps are OP should remember that they can annihalate a cruiser or even potentially another battleship in a single volley of their own guns.

[@George-jg9sy]

+233Deadman What you say is correct.

[@dreacken3]

Love your content Jingles! XCOM2, WOT, WOWS, ArmoresWarfare, everything! Keep it up!

[@Qutut]

The Izumo that burned to death though, If you look, when the Destroyer was spotted, she INSTANTLY began to turn away from the smoke screen, so credit where credit is due. Also: It's that bloody Boat game again.

[@commonce420]

I love this video, because it excellently outlines the complete set of tactics for DD and as well as the impenetrable, some might say - BB. 2 ship classes at the opposite ends of the spectrum, that contradictory to the belief are equally important and deadly. + the "Jim Carry meme" - EPIC

[@CaptRye]

where do you DD skippers find these big stupid battleship players. all the ones I go against are so skittish they change direction ever time the wind blows on them. now as a battleship player, I might eat a torp or 2 and have occasionally been hit by a full broadside of them but usually once a I know there's a DD near me and I'm within his torp range I'm on high alert and will change directions. in fact if an enemy dd is within 10km of me I'll switch to shooting at him. even in a BB and even with ap loaded.

[@AndrewTGreen]

Another gem of exposition. The MoH read was fantastic. Sad, but good. Thanks again.

[@thelastholdout]

Oh, and as someone who loves driving battleships, I have to say that the "oblivious battleship driver" stereotype is fully justified. I once fought a New York in my Marblehead and launched my torpedoes at him THREE TIMES from near maximum range, and he took at least one torpedo from all three spreads, and sometimes two. For those who don't know, the Marblehead has quite possibly the absolute worst torpedoes in the game-they have decent range, but only go 48 knots, and there's only 3 of them total. This New York driver, though...he just kept sailing in a straight line. Didn't maneuver, didn't change speed, NOTHING. Through THREE fucking torpedo spreads. It was so sad, and yet so great because I got to benefit from it.

[@lumpilumpinski9951]

That was the PAC-MAN Special. Collect all dots you can see.

[@Huntersinthesky]

To be honest, I've tried my best trying to avoids torpedoes before they're spotted and can usually do it, but when you're driving a New York and can't sail a circle small enough to get around Cape Horn without running into Antarctica, it's hard to avoid torpedoes shot from 5km. Plus, with my turret turn time, and rudder shift time, maneuvers mean less shooting and subsequently even less of a chance at citadels (which are all BB's have to go for). But hey, a damned good show from this fletcher. That Montana really did have no excuse xD.

[@arjentromp12]

ive been on youtube for a while now, and i have to say that you have been the most enjoyable youtuber to watch :)

[@Why_are_you00]

Jingles, I want you to narrate GPS devices and, while traveling on a straight road for a while, I'd love to hear you talking about big dumb battleships who eat torpedoes doing the same thing.

[@mikebattista1523]

I love watching your videos Mr. Jingles, being a history buff and especially the two World Wars, i love learning some new knowledge i didn't know before! Thanks!

[@DarkFire515]

I can be quite supportive of battleship drivers since it's not always so easy given their rudder shift times etc. This video though... I got nothing. Don't get it.

[@TronTuborg]

9 times out of 10 when I bin it in a BB, it's cos I'm not paying attention. 'course most the time it's due to my own team forgetting the golden rule. "When Mr. Torpedo is in the water, Mr. Torpedo is NOBODIES friend"

[@FildasKirk]

Nice, I've just finished the Emden video and lo'n behold, there is another Jingles' video waiting for me, yay

[@arkoleonakos]

6:00 see the chat! 'Merica f*ck yea, coming to save the motherf*cking day now

[@reyvinz8908]

Atsf wannabe XD

[@senioritaporpredor]

2 WOW vids in a row, why have you forsaken us Jingles? was prepared to work in the salt mines before but now...

[@ex59neo53]

This player deserves to quote Duke Nukem : "I go where I please! And I please where I go!"

[@TheBigLanowski]

+ex59neo53 That made me laugh so hard :D thx, glad you like my video. Lets hope he will get my message and I will get my diamonds later on!

[@willphipps6513]

Outstanding battle. Awesome commentary Jingles! :) Makes me want to grind out the American Destroyer line after watching this!

[@HotRod-gv4zt]

I find it funny whenever people do complain about the torpedos being OP. Considering in real life, they didn't have the torpedo warning systems we have in game. I myself am a BB sailor, and I've had bad times with the torps but that doesn't mean they're OP. It only helped me learn how to avoid them, and everyone else can do the same.

[@mithikx]

Jingles lookup the MOH citation for Commander Ernest E. Evans, he was the captain of a Fletcher-class destroyer (probably the most famous one) in WWII and was one of the lead participants in one of the greatest naval battles in WWII. His citation is more in line with what one would expect, and then some.

[@ChaosphereIX]

if us BB drivers turned every time we thought a DD got a salvo off / were in the area, we would never go anywhere [we would be constantly turning and dodging] and be constantly showing our citadels to enemy BBs. YES WE KNOW DDs ARE IN THE AREA, JINGLES. It is just that we sometimes cant really do much about it. If we spent all our time dodging torpedoes, we would never get anything done and get chased to the edge of the map. I blame the lack of cruisers and DDs to help those hapless BBs. Jingles, lay off us BB drivers - we are not all oblivious, but what else can you do when DDs are in torp range, and you are being shot at by enemy high tier BBs?

[@Petkopanchov]

+ChaosphereIX leave it to Jingles to promote "oblivious BBs captains behavior". A bet he haven't played Tier VIII+, outside of team battles to know how we have to deal with the constant "great wall of torpedoes", invisible HE spam etc etc. No he's just seal clubbing in his Minekaze and putting DD replays... keep it up Jingles.

[@classifiedad1]

+ChaosphereIX You don't need to turn much in order to dodge torpedoes. You can also cut speed slightly. Either option will make torps miss.

[@miskatonic6210]

Oh, so you don't turn, when there's 6 torpedos running straight towards your broadside, too? *lol* Most of the hit ships weren't even shot at...

[@gamerZitez]

+ChaosphereIX Jingles did say this before. He is not making fun of all battleship captains, it is only the oblivious one that make him laugh and if there are still many more oblivious captains like you saw in the video, he will have the time of his life laughing at those oblivious battleship captains. I also share your fit of embarrassment there but it will continue if there are battleship captain like this not learning from their mistakes.

[@PagnDad2]

Fun video. Guy really knows how to use ALL the weapons and characteristics of his ship, as well as his enemies mistakes, to his advantage. I enjoyed it a lot

[@AddumEnied]

why cant i get a enemy team full of bbs? its us/russian dds and cvs all day long .

[@thelastholdout]

This...this was beautiful. This is the kind of game destroyer captains dream of-chock full of battleship drivers who are completely oblivious and no destroyers or cruisers cockblocking your torpedo runs.

[@Robonoobatron]

"AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!" -Team America

[@C.Kado18]

Any Jingles video makes my day better.

[@Wolfkin18]

Tirpitz Commander and Montana for fuck sake... Dudes. TORPEDOS IN THE WATER YOU TURN! I get a little sick and tired of BB being called as dumb dumbs but THEN i have to eat my words when people CONTINUE to do stupid shit like this EVEN after Jingles continues to show what not to do!

[@Cthippo1]

+Pedro Portela Don't you hate it when people insist on living up to their stereotypes?

[@Wolfkin18]

It's infuriating! I'm no expert, hell I've had my fair share of torpedos runs but it was well laid traps or miscalculations from my part and I've paid the price but this is just pure stupidity! Both had PLENTY of warning,

[@ErinGaynor]

When I'm in a destroyer, I feel vaguely cheated when there's no BB's on the enemy team to shoot torps at.

[@TheYuPagoda]

As a battleship player I agree that these captains should know how to sail their ships. Especially the first Izumo he sank. However, as a battleship player you are very dependent on your teammates. More times than I would like to admit, I play on teams with zero communication. If you ask for help from your fellow DDs and CLs. You won't get any. Because you are a BB and you can take care of yourself. NO! With the amount of torps that DD's, especially Japanese DDs, can spam. You just can not account for all of them. And no I am not angry, at all. Just read my comment please. ;) Torps are not overpowered. If you sail broadside on to a DD you are kind of setting yourself up. Sure as A BB you can take care of DD's. IF you happened to have High explosives loaded. Which most BBs don't have because going for citadels is the name of the game. That brings me to my first point of nuance regarding the sentiment that "stupid BB-captains are stupid". Why, when I hit 5 out of 8 shots on a DD with my Nagato. Does it only do 5120 damage? Over-penetrations you say? All 5 of them? So, and let me get this clear, you say that 410mm shells do not shred a DD in half? Not even when they sail broadside onto me? I already have to win the desperion lottery to even hit them. I get that High Explosives are more effective, as they should. But I dislike how AP is so ineffective against DDs. If AP could cause flooding, makes sense because of the sizable holes they leave on impact and with DDs being so low above the waterline, it would not make them as unusually useless as they are now. If that is too much to ask, Double their Damage. AP can shred DDs. Getting hit with AP should cause more damage. Especially seeing as OPs on CLs do at least 2k. Secondly. Camouflage index in smoke is over 9k I.E. Spamming guns and torps from smoke. There is literally no counter for a BB is you encounter a DD hiding in his smokescreen and spamming his guns other than making sure you sail perpendicularly onto or away from it. Because, for some reason you are undetectable even if I can see where the shells are coming from. I think smoke should be more a defensive weapon rather than offensive. Or maybe they could make a outlining of the ship so you can kind of guess where he is and in what position. Or, a smokescreen could lose its' effectiveness if you are less than half of a ships' detectibility range away from it. I.E. for the Fletcher that could be

[@kenthedespoiler]

+Jack “AllTrianglesMakeASquare” McDutch This, all of this.

[@bretrudeseal4314]

I agree. In reality, a 14, 15, or 16 inch shell slamming into a DD should either cause flooding (AP) if near the water line or should cause an immediate detonation if hit by HE, unless it is a hit on the superstructure. At the very least half their health should be gone in one blast. I often have to hit them with 4 or 5 HE rounds in order to get a kill. I know this, every time I play a destroyer I generally get slaughtered by CA's due to CV spotting. Playing any of these ships can cause embarrassment and heartburn.

[@theanimecivilian6913]

Love your World of Warships intros Jingles. Nice videos, keep it up. 😁

[@theanimecivilian6913]

Everyone go to 10:08

[@Shrike58]

Regarding Adm. Fletcher's MoH it was incidents like that which led to the demands being serious elevated.

[@danburrill8716]

+Shrike58 From memory didn't Smedley Butler win the first of his medals of honour at Vera Cruz? I think he tried to return it during WWI and was ordered not to do anything of the sort (I think it was in WWI that he won his second).

[@irishguy051]

I have to say, that Amagi takes the cake for me in terms of oblivious battleship drivers. The Izumo spotted the torpedos when they sailed past him, and torpedos never go unspotted until they burn out. Which means he could actually see all three torpedos that hit him from the moment they passed the Izumo to the moment they hit the ship, which is a shocking lack of situational awareness.

[@Platinumsniper]

Jingles, The NA server is being shafted and isn't running the Grand Naval battles event, therefore we would have no use for your diamonds

[@jeeveey]

Sadly :/

[@admiralshepsky6402]

Which is completely BS but this is wargaming we are talking about.

[@Pangora2]

+Skystalker NA never has events. Unless you count the monthly Aurora or Albany sale...

[@oldfrend]

+Skystalker ah. i was wondering what event he was talking about in the last WS video.

[@mariofan1ish]

+Skystalker We're getting shafted for the rest of the ARP Ships too. Unfortunate... I wanted the rest of them in my fleet. :/

[@drumsdudegaming20]

+The Mighty Jingles 3:54 the Skillikaze? Oh Jingles... Don't ever change, we love you just the way you are. The Mighty Jingles, misidentifying vehicles since 2011.

[@thegeekyouseek8229]

Medal of Honor Jingels, NOT the Congressional Medal of honor. Because the medal is presented "in the name of Congress," it is often referred to as the "Congressional Medal of Honor". However, the official name is the "Medal of Honor," which began with the U.S. Army's version. Within United States Code the medal is referred to as the "Medal of Honor", and less frequently as "Congressional Medal of Honor". Re: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor

[@XBradTC]

+Andrew Ihle I would note also that while it would appear Fletcher got the Medal of Honor for much less risk than a junior enlisted would, there simply were no other medals for valor at the time. If you look back at all the MoH citations from back in the day, many were awarded that today would probably not even rate a Silver Star.

[@HashiriyaR32]

"He's actually locked onto the Tirpitz right now, but due to various replay bugs, we can't see that" You can still manually cycle through targets on your end during a replay until you get to the one you THINK the player is aiming for.

[@Valk13125]

7:40 ....just...WTF...i have seen T5 BBs turning like pros and giveing me in my DD/CV a bad time....BUT TIER 10???

[@brilliantlysplendid]

I usually see T6 BBs turning like mad. Fuso captains don't take shit from anybody!

[@Ushio01]

+Valkyrie13 Jingles gets hundreds of replays a day so he can go through them looking for these. Play the actual game you may get a game like this every thousand or so.

[@Valk13125]

+Ushio01 i play the game =P (was also in the CBT)

[@Valk13125]

+brilliantlysplendid can confirme this

[@Ushio01]

***** I miss the closed beta the saipan was such a good carrier but now the game is just shit.

[@darthswagins9056]

My God! where are all these battleship players when i'm grinding out exp. great replay Jingles keep up the great work! :D

[@GenSphinx]

Jingles a four star Admiral is just a Admiral. Five Stars is a Fleet Admiral.

[@ISeekerI]

+GenSphinx hi you have the same profile pic as me :)

[@GenSphinx]

Your is reversed, i think yours is the midwestern brotherhood symbol.

[@Emperor_Niro]

Actually, yours is the Midwestern symbol.

[@leightonlaw7040]

*you're

[@Emperor_Niro]

Leighton Law No, I spelled it correctly. You see, the word "you're" is a contraction of "you are", so if "you are" doesn't fit in the sentence, then "you're" also doesn't work.

[@josefhlavsa2891]

I am gonna go out on account the cruiser captains are as oblivious as BB captains, except DDs do not waste torps on CAs as much, because why would you, since it is much more likely to dodge or get killed before the torps even arrive. But there is as many straight line sailing captains in cruisers as there in BBs. They just don't get fired at with torps as much. Not from afar anyway.

[@adiboss1]

Its EU serwer. "GramDzojstikiem" means "I play with Joystick" in polish

[@johanseinen8245]

+adiboss1 And there also a couple of German players names and an Italian in there as well ;)

[@Telsion]

5:22 how can you track those torps (and shots) AFTER you have fired and you wanna take a quick look at them? when I press that button, the gun fires and it does not track a previously shot shell

[@bensemusx]

+Telsion Z key I believe. Jumps to whatever you fired last. Don't know how to switch between different shells/torps in said volley though.

[@Telsion]

bensemus x aight, thx either way :D

[@bensemusx]

Telsion You can also fire your guns with middle mouse/scroll wheel click and the camera will travel with what you fired.

[@brendanrisney2449]

I've dodged torpedoes that I couldn't see in the South Carolina. And all the while I'm aiming and firing at enemies, albeit ever half a minute. But you can't last long against 3 destroyers you can't see in a South Carolina. Not without the immense luck I had, as I absolutely suck at this game.

[@izikia8319]

I usually laugh quite a bit in your videos, but as soon as you said "the chat is filled with quotes from team america" I started losing it. As an American I can confirm, that is the best way to tell you're on NA servers.

[@anirudhsinghs]

*sigh* IT'S THAT BLOODY BOAT GAME AGAIN

[@zh1272]

+Vladimir Putin its Vladimir Putin Madimir Putin?

[@anirudhsinghs]

+MasterDisaster101 Gaming VERY madimir putin

[@craftmaster3125]

Hey jingles I really do love your vids. Almost to 500k subs. You deserve it!

[@427Arbok]

I'm a BB captain. This hurts to watch. I'm not sure if it's the torpedo rape or the shameless asking for it, but I'm beginning to wonder if most BB players have Hyuuga's mentality with this shit ("Ram more of your torpedoes into me, Lady Iona!). That would explain a great many things, were it the case. I mean, the Amagi was at least far enough away and well enough engaged to have an excuse, but that fuckin' Izumo... That ship's gotta have a Maiden Plug-In.

[@adammullarkey4996]

In the Izumo's defence, it probably wasn't the smokescreen that was firing guns and launching torpedoes. The destroyer inside it, maybe, but probably not the smokescreen itself.

[@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA]

I'm currently at Tier 5 and getting mobbed by TBs is my bane, not DDs.

[@MrJackZhan]

+Jonathan Ashton Then get the Texas and watch these planes burn :)

[@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA]

No.

[@Shiittakes]

Turn before the bombers drop, keep your bow pointed towards them. Torpedo bombers are never an issue for me.

[@cobrazax]

+Jonathan Ashton get a cleveland, dont go alone if u can, focus them with CTRL click, never show side to them.

[@televisionblitz]

Well the reason BB's aren't as likely to turn is that the turrets take forever to rotate, however at that their those guys should be more careful, yesterday I took on a North Carolina and two DD's in a North Carolina, and I dodged the tops by turning and changing my speed. Because the torps have that aiming reticle I find DD's tend to aim there so that if you do change course and speed you'll miss most of the torps

[@enbyadera]

the tirpitz has no excuse though

[@televisionblitz]

yeah fair enough

[@alfrazalam101]

Its that bloody boat game again

[@Uhlan_]

Hey, spam in a can, watch it

[@STNeish]

I think a lot of BBs tend to sail in straight lines because turning will push their guns off target. They turn so slowly, manuevering can prevent you firing at anything.

[@anthonyalmgren1276]

Imwant more world of warships

[@Aotearas]

Now THAT was a genuinely amazing game. Nice find Jingles. One thing though, the Fletcher isn't just a gunboat. After the t8 Benson (and recently the t7 Mahan), the Fletcher and Gearing are hybrid DDs. Not as good gunboats as the russian DDs, not as good torpedoboats as the japanese DDs, but better detectability and torpedoes than the russians and better guns than the japanese. Seeing a US DD from t8 onwards making liberal use of its torpedoes is hardly uncommon, especially considering that the guns alone suffer huge performance penalties with fire chance reduction and HE penetrations thanks to the low caliber as you can see in the report sceenshot: 10k damage with 98 hits (only ~106 average damager per shell!) and only two fires set (t10 ships have a 50% fire chance reduction just for being t10!). Now put the gun away, plz

[@piritskenyer]

EU server, recon one of the guys in the game.

[@grassnake7able]

+EminemLovesGrapes cant tell if sarcasm or this guy thinks americans are good at english

[@piritskenyer]

grassnake7able I really hope sarcasm :|

[@ghostshadow8419]

+The Mighty Jingles Do you think you could do a historical video on the USS Laffey? It has had an amazing service record and is in game as the TIX Fletcher Destroyer. I have asked for it before but it would make my day if you could do an episode on this. Love your videos!

[@toddclayton]

BB driver here. My A and D keys are broken. :)

[@garryburton36]

What about W and S?

[@dom5164]

Jingles

[@katiamarizalazaridou9874]

jeez I'm a low tier Battleship captain and I know that when you see smoke, or a DD first thing you do is manuver, as I can prove with my replays :P, because that mean torps in the water. These guys play a lot longer than I do, and they still haven't learned that???!!! That amazes me lol

[@lcwpg]

+Katia Mariza Lazaridou probably because some high tier players think they are sailing high tier ship they are very experienced player and won't die lol i don't play high tier as well, i'm mid tier when i see a dd coming or smoke or invisi-firing it's time to be cautious expecting torps or even turn away call me coward or anything but no point dying and bring down the whole team

[@katiamarizalazaridou9874]

ahwai82 it's not cowardliness it's actually the right thing to do once you spot an enemy DD near by or even smoke, and who ever tells you that you are a coward, simple doesn't know what he or she is talking about lol...

[@Darksnider05]

I think it's simply Jingles that turning a battleship is a commitment. Playing a BB is also time management your not going to be able to double back multiple times as a BB without having everyone just run away from you. Or harass you with torps in such a way to stop you from joining the battle at any kind of effective range. But either way the hard counter to BB's is torps so yeah.

[@cameronboyce4695]

While there are some oblivious players in World of Warships, the majority of the problems are with the fact that there is no clear way to balance all of these ships on a small map. Most battleship pilots resist turning their ships because of the long rudder shift time as well as the long turret rotation speed makes it almost impossible to be effective when your doing nothing but turning to avoid torpedoes or possible torpedoes anytime a destroyer, cruiser, or torpedo bombers are near. As well as the fact that once a destroyer or a cruiser with torpedoes closes the distance you are pretty much dead because your shot dispersion is such shit. This is why i have stopped playing battleships and only play cruisers.

[@Jollyyy_]

The person who sails the ship isn't a pilot (They'd kick your ass if you called them that in real life.) They Prefer the term 'Captain'.

[@cameronboyce4695]

+JollyShot I am terribly sorry to get that one detail wrong about a video game. I have heard people refer to it as piloting a ship.

[@Jollyyy_]

Cameron Boyce I know, I'm just being an prick out of boredom :P

[@cameronboyce4695]

+JollyShot Also I would not refer to any World of Warships player as a Caption because they do not deserve the title of an O-6 in the Navy.

[@garryburton36]

If a DD fires torpedoes at you from outside detection range then you don't need to turn to avoid them, just changing your speed up and down makes it difficult for them to hit, and it makes it more difficult for sniping BB's to gauge where to aim.

[@SilentRazor1uk]

Another ship-tastic video Mr.C, keep them sailing down the (internet-)line, loved the Emden vid yesterday too ;) And yet another vid as to why some 'Straigthline' Captains run aground or get torped easily - turning is what they consider 'boats' (lesser ships in their eyes) and 'turrets' do, not their own battle ship; unless applied for in writing in a quadruplicate manner between the Helmsman, Navigator and Chief Officer of the Bridge first, before they themselves think of agreeing to a ruddering....

[@yoshironatsume6272]

It would be awesome if I get enemy teams like this :/

[@antz9149]

+Yoshiro Natsume yeah same

[@mooneyes2k478]

12 torps fired. 3 hit. 2 ships sank, one of which? Well, Jingles talk about oblivious BB drivers...but firing a spread at more than 5 klicks away, and have one of them catch and eat a DESTROYER? He must've been ENTIRELY elsewhere.

[@Riceball01]

+MoonEyes2k I've had that happen to me too, one of which I actually targeted in the open from around 7km away, max range for my torps, and somehow, for some reason, I still manage to sink him.

[@lexmaximaguy8788]

that fletcher...lol....BUT WAIT!!!THERE'S MORE!! HEY IM A BB DRIVER.. and all i have to say to those that sail in a straight line and call torpedoes OP....... uninstall the game!

[@TimeElf1]

+LEX Maximaguy87 Uninstall the game? But that will get rid of all those easy credits and XP.

[@SammySathya]

The way the famous Rear Admiral Jingles puts it... i'm glad i'm a cruiser skipper :)

[@finnyfin2057]

where are these players in my games? smh

[@lunaball2112]

Great replay. May I suggest a premium version - USS Johnston. Lt. Cmdr. Ernest E. Evans won the CMH for his actions. (see USS Johnston, Taffy 3 and the Battle off Samar)

[@BHavBA]

If you got torpedoed by IJN DDs, problem is the game balance and torpedo soup issue. But if you got torpedoed by USN DDs or USSR DDs, shame on you lol.

[@bullettube9863]

Please explain why at 15:40 the CA Des Moins fired at him and he launched torps at him!

[@Goisarsle]

+Bullettube Random acts of friendship, of course.

[@decodeddiesel]

wasd hack op, pls nerf

[@jmaaybraak]

luv ur wows content Jingles..plz keep doing what ur doing with this game!!

[@Blankanvaz]

Shi-meh-ka-zeh

[@Blankanvaz]

John Hyrcanus who are u referring 2? and if it's me, this is my first comment doing this so ur argument is invalid

[@mooneyes2k478]

+shadowblobSS Video-not-in-Japanese.

[@strilight]

+shadowblobSS Actually it sounds exactly like it's spelled.

[@Blankanvaz]

strilight i was correcting jingles... it's not she-MAC-azee

[@jabo109]

+shadowblobSS Don't bother, despite he maybe have watched Kancolle, and it certainly looks like that, and heared the name Shimakaze several times thru the series, it seems that Jingles can't pronounce japanese names correctly. No matter what xD

[@Wookie120]

The p[roper name is The Medal of Honor. It is awarded by Congress, hence people call it the Congressional Medal of Honor. Not being a butt Jingle, I thoroughly enjoy your videos.

[@MrRedRye]

In some ways the idiots that drive BBs like this help me out a lot. Most destroyer captains naturally get a huge shock when they run into someone who can dodge their torps and pays attention to where they are.

[@natethet4nk478]

jingles you are the reason why i don't sail in a straight line

[@woodward_wilson1629]

I've noticed in my play expieroenc r since alpha that the oblivious battleship drivers are the ones that have, and have only sailed battleships, IE they went straight up the BB, line, and haven't or didint play anything else, whereas captains who are quite diverse in what they play like me, are often a lot more aware of enemy torpedoes and DD's because we know the mindset of the dd and how player in it will be doing certain things so we can counter it.

[@NSNorfolk]

Wow, Blackstone played the Fletcher superbly. Well done !! NMN_2 on the NaM server.

[@jonskowitz]

I think part of the problem is that most people want BBs to be the nigh-invulnerable, all-powerful behemoths that they were originally conceived to be. Forgetting of course two things; one, this is a game, and games require some level of balance... and two, they weren't, not even in real life.

[@theswordguy5269]

Just an FYI, at the time that Admiral Fletcher was nominated for a received the Medal of Honor, there were no lesser awards that one could receive while in combat operations. It was Medal of Honor or nothing. The USN didn't even really have the equivalent of "mentioned in dispatches" like the Royal Navy had. So, I wouldn't call Admiral Fletcher's citation hilarious. It simply was what it was. A true breakdown or delineation of awards and decorations really only came with World War Two. Early in the war, the Navy Cross was also available (created in 1919) but that didn't really cover enough either, so eventually the Bronze and Silver stars were also made available for combat operations, as they were in the army. Just thought I'd let you know. Admiral Fletcher also had a rather famous nephew, Admiral Frank Jack Fletcher, also a Medal of Honor awardee at Veracruz, who was rather undervalued and whom history has sadly neglected and in some cases vilified. This Admiral Fletcher actually was the victim of his uncle's fame to a degree, as other ranking officers reportedly felt somewhat jealous about his fame and advancement and chalked some of it up to family influence and "that medal" instead of ability. This is a shame, as a reassessment of his ability and work shows that he was in many ways ahead of his time, and despite being a surface warfare officer actually invented many of the carrier task force operating procedures that the fast carrier task forces used later in the war, yet received little to no credit.

[@TsukiKitsune800]

I am a battleship driver and I was oblivious in the closed beta but until I sat up and paid attention I actually started learning how to know when there are going to be torpedoes in the water and now since the open beta came out I have been doing decently well.

[@SW1EmpireAtWar]

As a battleship player myself this was hard to watch especially the Izumo that sails broadside to the smokescreen at 4 fucking kilometers away