Weighing Up Weaponry: German Naval Artillery

[@arandomguy3702]

In the game the ships look big and powerful, until you see that little man next to Bismarck's gun and every other gun, now that's what you call a gun, amazing video guys

[@stefanknauer7180]

In the game the ships look like toy ships xD

[@arandomguy3702]

@@stefanknauer7180 Yeah, they should look bigger, and the guns shouldn't sound like toy guns, very few gun sounds are powerful

[@Old_user123]

@@arandomguy3702 war thunders new gun sounds are pretty good especially the new scarnhorst battle cruiser

[@georgeheld1901]

I live near the USS New Jersey, can confirm, those guns have more area than the first floor of my house

[@boyfriendwannabe1825]

Gun? That's a fricking city leveler.

[@anonymousstout4759]

A little explanation For the gun itself SK= Schnelladekanone (Fast loading canoz) Schiffskanone prior to 1920( Ship canon) Tbts= Torpedoboots Kanone ( Torpedo boat canon) C= Construktionsjahr ( year of construction/ design) L= Lange (length of the gun, how many times the diameter of barrel) For the mounting L = Lafette (mounting) Drh= Drehturm/ Drehscheiben (turntable mounting, or simply translated to a turret) MPL= Mittel-Pivot-Lafette So for Admiral Graff Spee (my favourite German ship) 28 cm SK L/52 C/28, Drh L C/28 would be; 28cm ship canon with length 52 times of it's caliber constructed in 1928 are being mounted on a turret that constructed in 1928. German is so fun, their designation is really self explanatory

[@vizondestroy]

With any care you can decifer any German weapon

[@hyneksmid3293]

150mm on destroyer. 283mm on heavy cruiser. germans were mad :D

[@ChristopherSloane]

Naw, not accurate , you forgot to bend the barrels like in game. Where they miss badly and shells go in random trajectories

[@skdKitsune]

Hey, didn't you know that the germans did never hit anything with their guns back then, but the very real and glorious soviet navy had laser railguns? /s

[@battleship6177]

@@skdKitsune lmao *randomly dev strikes a hood* oh mustve been a lucky hit

[@skdKitsune]

@@battleship6177 Royal navy copium

[@hermannarminius7746]

If we want some "accuracy" (pun intended) why not fix the RNG on German guns...some of the best gunnery in WW1 and WW2.........

[@TineFangaming]

Cost for turtleback armour belt

[@Clearwood_]

@@TineFangaming That's a stupid reason and you know it.

[@arkdeso2864]

"no, i'm not defending German technical superiority i'm stating the f*cking obvious"

[@Atomic_Bomber-man]

"German Engineering the best country in the World". - Rudoll Von Strohiem

[@kyarailumi]

Doitsu no kagaku moment

[@wesleyverhoeks4296]

15cm : 149mm, massive brain

[@marinhaalternativa3829]

Uhm...

[@gunnigasig9084]

Round it up. 149mm would be 14,9cm but 150mm are 15cm. 14,9cm would look weird. 15cm is easier and prettier.

[@VasylTroniX27YT]

Omg, always loved the german ships, the process of fabrication of this guns must be crazy

[@mikemusikable]

Was you loved them

[@SkullHuntah]

Wargaming be like this is history: WG Also be like a yess Schlieffen 420mm aaahh yess Preussen 456mm :_P

[@paulitehidayetp.8682]

I bet british guns will be the weirdest ones

[@nejiacosta369]

Only ships not guns, their guns r cool tho

[@idiporeosinwater5253]

Watching the video on 1.5x is something else

[@MrRammy-bd1gk]

True!

[@hajoos.8360]

SMS Seydlitz is holding the world record in the reloading speed of it's 11'inch-guns at the battle of the Doggerbank, after both stern-turrets blew up. Seydlitz fired with the remaining 3 turrets 123 11'inch-shells in 6 rounds a minute against Beatty's squadron. This could be an idea for WoW-designers.

[@stevevernon1978]

your idea is "load faster when you have destroyed turrets"? really how often do you see that?

[@hajoos.8360]

@@stevevernon1978 it is not my idea, it is historically documented. Seydlitz was burning, flagcaptain/commander von Egidy & crew thought, the ship will blow up, and Seydlitz left the line to cover the escape of the remaining 2 battlecruisers with fast fire. (the order was "fast & good fire".) But the cleverness of the Brits gave Seydlitz time to escape, too. In the wow-game we have already implemented "adrenalin" & reload-speed-booster, but not on German ships.

[@stevevernon1978]

i just meant to say how rarely do you see , in game, two or more turrets knocked out?

[@tumppu1975]

@@hajoos.8360 it's already in the game and it's called adrenaline rush. If you don't use that, you are running an inferior crew :)

[@hajoos.8360]

@@tumppu1975 yes.... some frenchies have got a reload-booster.... but Seydlitz made an extraordinary skill.... Adrenalin is not really so effective

[@yonghuanwang2860]

japan next ?

[@cuddles2634]

I'm a big fan of the german ships in the game.

[@bogdanstan6007]

good guns..no good dispersions

[@kaptenkukang]

German science is number one in the world

[@leek7412]

But the game sucks

[@Old_user123]

@@leek7412 yes it does. It’s sucks beyond belife

[@Justin-sn4vs]

Hold up where is the yorck main battery and where is gaede main battery???

[@TheScania1991]

Hindi wasnt featured aswell. I think they only used turrets for ships that where actually buid or at least laid down.

[@Justin-sn4vs]

@@TheScania1991 so which mean wg are lazy to do their work bruh

[@Justin-sn4vs]

@@TheScania1991 but if really as u said they didn't use gk and hindin or others blueprint ship and u can see yorck and gaede are actually in history so my words are based on proof

[@vietta6424]

@@Justin-sn4vs yorck was considered too expensive and wasn't built, but there was plans for it yes, woulda love to see one irl, but history is history.

[@hanselsihotang]

I think WG only includes ships that has at least their historical guns and/or mounts built (i.e FDG wasn't built but the guns did exist).

[@FarmSimulfr89]

where G.K

[@holden7688]

where are Mainz, G. Kurfurst, Schlieffe, etc?

[@fckyt8222]

The German Guns where one of the most Accurate Guns in WW2. In Game they have such sh!t accuray....

[@Bakotcha]

Do you have any data regarding this? I would like to read it.

[@tgc_-369_]

Please Do Imperial Japanese Naval Artillery & Kingdom Of Italy Naval Artillery.

[@issacfoster1113]

Ah yes the HOPIUM 16"s .

[@riderstrano783]

The guns themselves actually existed and were used in combat, and I believe one can still be visited today. The hopium infused component is the gunhouse itself

[@issacfoster1113]

@@riderstrano783 Well US made 18" gun was built and tested and still have to this day But not shown. WG needs to have at least 1 imposing gun to not disappoint the pro German sans

[@LMLRailfan]

Where is Yorck 210mm main gun?

[@metal-0118]

Yea and kurfurist

[@asancoon2363]

Cause they didn't exist irl

[@brentonteo8273]

If the small calibre guns are 149mm, why in the hell does WG classify it as 150?

[@babbyboy2164]

Same as 8mm mauser is actualy 7.92, germans are weird

[@1963felonee]

@@babbyboy2164 it's to round up and make everything easy, especially with how Germans say numbers, in English it's Seven point ninety two. In German Seben, und Zwei und Neunzig millimeter, or you could just say Acht millimeter

[@braydennleppert3598]

May we the players get 1v1 so I can play with my friend and we whant to battle for fun and to see what the Bismarck vs the Nevada wud look like and we just like the game and it would be fun

[@KarliburYT]

You can play any scenario you like in the training room.

[@7r47ufchfyw7twguwgu]

@@KarliburYT yeah but that's boring

[@7r47ufchfyw7twguwgu]

@@KarliburYT look at modern warship we can go online and battle each others

[@SamuraiNinja_HUN]

Deutsche Qualität👌

[@senglrcmdr3384]

I love the German cruisers!!

[@kalboka6667]

loved it, now do a japanese one

[@heenthousiast383]

we all know whats gonna be the last one :) but sure why not

[@D.AKULA_TK208]

@@heenthousiast383 A-150 probably...

[@GrandPappySkulls]

reallly great work and comparing like this is fantastive give a real perspective too size

[@MateuszKopczynski_]

I am not playing WoW but this music so dope :) Can sb send link to this song please?!

[@mrspy9425]

Gneisenau class isnt a Battleship, Its Battlecrusier btw :D

[@ww1ww258]

Only to the British She is, everyone else she’s a battleship

[@imreallynoob8311]

A fast battle ship Wait...isnt its scharnhorst class? Yeah only the british say shes a battlecruiser

[@mrspy9425]

@@imreallynoob8311 Well, both are correct, but more sources call Scharnhorst class, Its because of the guns, 280mm for me wasnt a BB, i really thought it was a Battlecrusier. But thanks for correcting :D

[@imreallynoob8311]

@@mrspy9425 guns is not what seperate BC from BB the armor is what seperate them battlecruiser have BB guns but cruiser armor :D

[@mrspy9425]

@@imreallynoob8311 Thanks for the tip buddy

[@Saiban56]

Where are GK ones? and Schlieffen? and Preussen?

[@Klimotine]

i think these are guns that existed in real life

[@neverborn1000]

@@Klimotine but the FDG was never made?

[@SebaX92]

@@neverborn1000 the gun itself was used as shore defense .

[@neverborn1000]

@@SebaX92 I just read that, but they are still making it sound like FdG was completed, maybe they should have written (Shore gun intended for FdG) or something along those lines

[@h3llotherefellas]

​@@neverborn1000 it's not about the ships being made but the guns. In total there were twelve 40.6 cm/52 (16") SK C/34 made for intended use on the H-class battleships. Later, plans were drawn up to widen the barrel to allow a higher caliber of 42cm for use on H41 and H42 classes respectively. This change, however, was never performed and therefore the 420mm variant was never actually built and is therefore not mentioned in the video.

[@The_Blue_Knight]

very cool

[@manuelmaas7774]

Nice vid, but i thought that the german bb guns doesnt work so effective as they have to do in the game....

[@UniTopie]

They can deal good damage are shot range but are fucking shotgun

[@imreallynoob8311]

Irl they isnt very effective compare to royal navy

[@banema]

German line, the best line to start playing WoWs :)

[@kv-2232]

Agree

[@terencewong4489]

This song is so professional and god damn awesome

[@Niko__20]

those are some heavy weapons

[@danielpetrasko2283]

Japanesssseeeee please

[@MohdArif-pl3sy]

Is German double barrel 16inch gun mount exist? I know single barrel mount do exist in coastal gun form.

[@oxlynz7328]

no, only project

[@Aelvir114]

Ah yes, German guns like how you replaced the 15 cm/48 KC/36T with 12.8 cm KM40s for Siegfried and Nürnberg’s 15 cm guns for Elbing and Schultz.

[@themechbuilder6171]

BATLESHIP CANNON

[@Haranis_Kawashima]

WhErE iS tHe 457 mm gUn Of tHe PrUsSeN ? My god i hate this caliber.

[@BigD321]

Yeah, Im hoping they change it to a more accurate 450mm, would still be same overmatch value, but just more accurate for the germans as they were developing that gun cal, and not a 457

[@britishneko3906]

german guns looks old whilst still having modern vibe

[@ae3464]

1:47 where is yorck class 210mm??

[@miinh1067]

Love that yall only showed historical turrets, and also respected that the German 6in are 149.1mm guns

[@angelfrom666]

Japanese and British guns please?

[@abielgabriel7095]

He was made to rule the waves across the seven seas!

[@abielgabriel7095]

To lead the war-machine, to rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine!

[@extremisgaming3212]

Two thousand men and fifty thousand tons of steel, set a course for the Atlantic with the allies on the heel

[@BattleshipOrion]

Though I'm a fan of the song...there's alot more than just Bismarck shown in this video. Notice her (yes I use 'her', not 'he') escort's (Prinz Eugen's) guns (Admiral Hipper). Also, can't think of any lyrics, so have guitar solo.

[@abielgabriel7095]

@@BattleshipOrion thanks for reminding, its just they don’t hav song yet

[@BattleshipOrion]

@@abielgabriel7095 give it a few years. Prinz Eugen'l at the very least with her combat record...we don't talk about how she ended up capsized...

[@bigfox2810]

can we have an update with more stats like max. engagement range please? Id love to see some more stats from the real ships!

[@Old_user123]

Dude world of warships stats aren’t realistic at all especially with the fact that some guns aren’t even as powerful as they are or are way too powerful for what they are

[@novo9024]

I missed Yorcks 210mm

[@randommemes7702]

so.. where is yorck, gjm, schultz, elbing, brandenburg/odin, gk, schlieffen, and preussen?

[@DavidBainGaming]

Only ones that were real

[@crispico4727]

@@DavidBainGaming Like FdG?

[@christianklaas2626]

@@crispico4727 the video is just about the guns that were originally built for naval warhsips and on what ships they can be found. so, even the H-class battleship project was cancelled, some of the 40,6 cm guns were built and used for coastal defense

[@Axel23410]

@@crispico4727 FdG's guns were actually built and tested. They were just never fitted on a ship. THey ended up as shore battery on the coast of Normandy.

[@最上-j1t]

個人的にはシャルンホルストの主砲の形が好き。

[@gbwithwings4039]

Excellent video! The soundtrack was amazing!!! Thank you!

[@simonlenart6938]

Imagine the manufacturing process for those guns

[@patrickbender3624]

Odin is missing

[@jrgenschulstock8261]

Its becaus ethey only chose guns that existed irl. The 305 on odin never existed, but the 406 og FDG did.

[@czolgowyBRM5]

What gun was V-170 using?

[@mikrorety4238]

4х1 105-mm

[@FA_pro]

So excited to see YAMATO guns next Xd.

[@permafrostinsanity1799]

It amazes me why German navel artillery almost always came in dual gun form? With the exception of the Graf Spee, Weimar, Mainz, Scharnhorst, GK and probably a few others, but why did German not adopt the triple or quadruple gun platform for their more modern ships, like Bismarck, Tirpitz and Hipper. If other nations were packing some serious firepower with triple gun main batteries, you would think Germany would do the same. Even England and France were boasting quadruple turret designs for their BBs, with the exception of U.S.S. Florida (designed project XVI), which would've had quadruple 356 mm guns in 3 turrets. So it's puzzling why Germany stayed with the 2 gun design for just about every modern ship they built. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about destroyers, but cruisers and BBs.

[@JmbFountain]

As, for example, Drachinifel pointed out, the main reason was probably the Krupp gun design, which used sliding breech blocks instead of screwed breeches. Those did have the advantage of a theoretically higher rate of fire and automation (this is why the USS Des Moines Class also uses sliding breech blocks), at the cost of taking up more space in the turret.

[@permafrostinsanity1799]

@@JmbFountain you wouldn’t happen to know which video, I’m interested to look into it.

[@map5438]

I don't know if that's historically correct but I've heard they used 4x2 instead of 3x3 so if you lose a turret you only lose 25% of your firepower whereas you'd lose 33% with the 3x3 design

[@danh7411]

Because triple guns weighted a lot more than dual guns, making ships slower, plus the German didn't to lose a third of their firepower whenever a triple turret is incapacitated.

[@permafrostinsanity1799]

@@danh7411 I don't think Germany would have been that worried due to weight issues. It could be the design of the guns, it could be something else, idk.

[@pegasusted2504]

I think when you remake this to include all the newer vessels instead of having a single sailor for perspective purposes you should have the amount of sailors that would work in such turrets etc.

[@vietta6424]

Where's the twin 105s as secondaries on all the german cruisers and up?

[@leek7412]

It all means nothing when they fall short or shoot like a shotgun .

[@fernandofigueiredo7899]

German gun's

[@michelecapano2275]

York's 210mm? GK's and Schlieffen's 420mm?

[@robinsonsstudios]

not real guns,paper designs at best

[@derrickstorm6976]

What a weird one. Also, where is GK or Schleiffen?

[@proyecto9326]

This are the real life guns i guess. The ones they really built.

[@jamedbond]

Prinz eugine guns?

[@guarana-suquinho]

1:50 here, in Admiral Hipper.

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

Prinz Eugen is part of the Admiral Hipper class

[@rndm_person]

Japanese guns next please :D

[@yingdihe9286]

nice to know the actual size compared to a man.

[@MrRammy-bd1gk]

WHY THE GERMANS NEVER BUILD 4 TURRET BATTLESHIPS LIKE DUNKERQUE??

[@memegod4674]

Cause they sucked and took ages to reload and half the time were broken down? Plus used more ammo.....

[@wallachia4797]

Your question should've rather been why the French chose to build those abominations to begin with. The answer was to save weight for the Washington Naval Treaty. Having less turrets means you can slap a more armor somewhere else or have a tad better engine. Germany obviously didn't have the same problem.

[@Axel23410]

@@memegod4674 the turrets on Dunkerque never had any significant issues. Only the quad turrets on the Richelieu-class suffered from problems which were due to their precipitated commission, not the design itself. Now of course that doesn't mean they were perfect, but they didn't "suck". In the end it was just a design choice. For example the German twin turrets provided more redundancy, but it also considerably lengthened the citadel, which lead to an increase in weight that could've been used somewhere else.

[@MrRammy-bd1gk]

Thx for the answer, and I have another question, who would win the battle between Großbër Kürfist and Montana?

[@MrRammy-bd1gk]

EVEN TODAY WHY THE GERMANY DID NOT HAVE ANY AIRCRAFT CARRIER?

[@OrangeGuyBlows]

The only comparison is that german bbs guns are crap in your game....yet Russian junk ...who's best ships in this era were given to them for reparations from other countries lmao....are great....oh and this game is cash grab junk ,don't play it.

[@VRichardsn]

In what way are German battleship guns crap? They have average or good accuracy, fast reload times, good penetration, great ballistics and good turret traverse times...

[@OrangeGuyBlows]

@@VRichardsn you must not play the game ...short range, terrible dispersion and sub-par damage is german bbs....

[@VRichardsn]

@@OrangeGuyBlows I do play the game. Quite a lot, in fact: I have almost 1800 battles with German battleships. My WR and PR are both several notches above server average. Short range is not really true. That is for the Italians to complain about. Besides, 20 km is plenty enough. Who needs to fire at 25 km and miss everything because the shells take forever to land? Terrible dispersion is not true either. The German battleships use the US battleships dispersion curve. The new German battlecruiser line (classed as battleships in game) is even better: it has battlecruiser dispersion instead of battleship dispersion. Sub par damage is not true either. Lets look at some Tier VIII BBs, all armed with 15" guns, and make a comparison. Bismarck: 11.600 damage. Vanguard: 11.700 damage. Richelieu: 11.900 damage. I don't see how 300 damage makes any difference.

[@BattleshipOrion]

@@VRichardsn he's only played the game, he don't know that facts yet. Let him learn...before I bring both the Bismarck & Admiral Hipper classes back (replicas, and the waifu (Prinz Eugen) is gonna be a private yacht).

[@BattleshipOrion]

Don't tell me what to do. Seriously, go ahead try it. I do not care for the grab if it means my enjoyment. I'll only ever invest in what makes me happy. One of the reasons I'm leaving a particular game that's popular and based on doing crimes.

[@alphagurke5699]

since when do we place tanks on a battleship hehe :)

[@hms_belfast5628]

thay go from pew pew to BOOM BOOM

[@swag-trap0123]

VII German Crusier Yorck missing?VII German

[@Axel23410]

York was never built. Neither were her guns or turrets.

[@swag-trap0123]

@@Axel23410 Yep, that explains things thanks bud. It's also great to finally get the Konigsberg and Nirnberg turrets side by side. I knew they were similar just didnt realise.

[@izukuclone9217]

Japan pls

[@KugelBlitz5]

Yes

[@DevSolar]

Why are the guns listed with 128mm caliber, but 12,7cm declaration? I've never seen them referred to as 12,7cm before.

[@1963felonee]

Because sometimes a gun would be marked as a 15cm when it's really 149 to round it up, the Chevy 350 ci motor is actually like 345, same thing happens with guns

[@DevSolar]

@@wistarabanyukayana No, it doesn't.

[@DevSolar]

@@1963felonee I understand the rounding part. It's just that, in the last 30+ years, 128mm or 12,8cm is the only number I've come across in both German and English documents, which is why the 12,7cm here took me by surprise.

[@jololol5478]

Music in this video

[@Simon-nn5kx]

We need Derfflinger in Wows Legends

[@ShakaNFSW]

And the nation most hated for WG Yes they were "the bad" but the actually had an Navy dear WG ad your 9 TX soviet fantasy ships

[@veteranassassin4591]

It's odd that the 16in Gun turret from the H-39-class almost identical as the SK C/34 380mm Gun from the Bismarck. Just the 406mm gun barrel is longer

[@MrRammy-bd1gk]

It was awesome and I really like the music , unfortunately I didn't find it on World of Warships channel. PLEASE I REALLY LIKE THAT MUSIC USED IN WEIGHING THE GERMAN ARTILLERY!

[@HaanDuch]

looks very nice

[@MrRammy-bd1gk]

Can anyone give me the music name and my favourite bb is Bismarck!

[@alpacinousvitogaming8774]

Part 2 japan pls

[@battleship6177]

Love the music

[@KugelBlitz5]

What’s it called?

[@battleship6177]

@@KugelBlitz5 how should I know? It's whatever WoWs named it

[@srirambharadhwaj3070]

You guys forgot the Yorck's 210 mm guns

[@leoladnsfs9527]

They didn't, York was never build

[@Draftsman17]

@@leoladnsfs9527 but the guns and shells where real, see SMS Blucher

[@leoladnsfs9527]

@@Draftsman17 oh, yea

[@robertmattson3150]

Good info for new players

[@marnickfox9891]

They forgot the 42 cm 45,7 and 48.3

[@-SairamShift]

where is hindenburg ?

[@KugelBlitz5]

What is the music?

[@vorax4]

missing the GK turret....

[@NightSniper2]

The GK was never built

[@juankovacs6033]

@@NightSniper2 neither was München, nor Friedrich der Grosse and their guns appear in the video.

[@juankovacs6033]

Also the 420mm of the Schlieffen and the 480mm of the Hannover.

[@NightSniper2]

@@juankovacs6033 Yeah, but those guns in particular WERE designed and the ships laid down

[@vietta6424]

@@NightSniper2 the ships were never laid down, atleast not schlieffen and Hannover.

[@im_nooby]

406 mm is so big, but how about 420mm

[@sahruramadhan4909]

name song?😊

[@irvings7413]

Graf Spee 😎

[@systenuccharge7296]

Japanese weaponary pleas!!!

[@danilomancini408]

And 420 mm gun?

[@eMercody]

The 406 was designed to become a 420, they are the same gun.

[@HeikoKetterer]

Cooles Video und Track! Kann mir jemand sagen wie diese Track heist und von wem? wäre ech nice.

[@elencapuchado2690]

Preussen 480 mm

[@noeperez562]

cool beans

[@bienwg6334]

Wait, it's actually 149mm instead of 150mm?

[@pizzerinoitaliano3049]

Always has been

[@Mochilover2334]

We need Japan now

[@357Striker]

German guns, they show white uniform american navy guys ok i guess