Worlds Fastest Nitrous Stock Bottom End Ford 302

[@OlBlueshound]

Everyone rags on the little Windsor small blocks but I love them!! This is awesome grass roots street car drag racing on a budget. I could watch this all day over the big money racers. Thanks for posting and sharing.

[@jamesreeder5316]

Anyone who rags on about ford windsor engines don't know what they're talking about. They are some of the toughest motors ever produced. The 351 has as big or even larger main & rod bearing journals than most big blocks. I started out as a chevy fan and I can tell you from personal experience those early sbc's would in no way put up with the nitrous abuse these 302's can handle.

[@chrisbarrientes9508]

Idk why? That's where the ls came from. But I would rather go dart sbf

[@michaelguerin4618]

They were made in Cleveland Ohio and Mexico

[@nitroustommy]

​@@michaelguerin4618😂 👌

[@EmanCurry30]

Even some Chevy guys know to appreciate the Windsor blocks

[@wisheye1]

Yes, I love this type of stuff. Go fast for cheap. Anyone can spend huge money and go fast but showing how its done on a cheap budget is really dope. Thanks for putting the videos together.

[@robertclymer6948]

@Felicita Niewiadomski Where do I find flixzone please? Thanks!!!!

[@anonymous_touch]

what cam does he have in this thing and what model heads?

[@ztwntyn8]

Find a cheap fox that’s descent lol

[@dntlss]

These cars came out back in the day where you had to learn how to work on cars and do everything you could to get that one last tenth to beat your buddy at the track, a set of pullies, a different belt, more juice, different clutch etc, now people that have no clue about cars will just pick one up in a lot with 600 horses and think they are Mario Andretti, lol

[@stanlane5322]

The fact that you're willing to tell details is what i love about your videos, keep it up

[@geneward9645]

All go, no show; this is what drag racing used to be all about 👍, the real life working man. Just went to Bradenton down here in FL this weekend - if you didnt have $50 to $100K in your ride, don't show your face. Not at all representative of the roots of the sport or it's real bread and butter: enthusiasts on a budget.

[@erikturner5073]

Exactly, this used to be a blue collar hobby. That's how you really have fun!

[@572dartsport]

It ain't runnnin' right unless the taillights fall out! LOL! Thats a BMF!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Yes

[@GrayMatterBBC]

I'm a Chevy guy but I have to appreciate what your doing with that 302! Congratulations on the new record

[@rickyhunter3514]

This is good shit man. Making fast passes with factory bottom end. That’s what I call a street car bro.

[@HioSSilver1999]

So you call gutted cars that parts fly off of when you mash the gas a street car?? ...lol...ok They did a good job making it do what it does for pretty cheap. But other than that it it's not much. There's more to a street car than a qtr mile pass.

[@henryj6483]

Well first off for weight reduction you take the front clip off there's a still bar in there ways over f****** 100 lb you get rid of it and then you get rid of all that fuel injectors s*** all the b******* wiring like he did and you got a good car good motor reliable and like this fuel injection crap they got out nowadays

[@spankthemonkey3437]

@@scottsmith5623 he probably does have a car its most likely a civic too😭😂

[@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672]

I don't care what anyone says street car is a car you drive to the track if you trailer it doesn't count.

[@shitbox7413]

5.82 is flying, love how basic this car is, congrats guys! 👍🏻

[@billyanderson6457]

Dude seems like he dosen't want to be interviewed lol

[@robertclymer6948]

He don't want to give up any trade secrets?

[@kentgross787]

Please do a full walk around/parts list of this car

[@StainlessTIG2]

Badass! The professor at tuning nitrous and SBF power! He needs to write a book on nitrous tuning? I’ll buy the first print! Great video.

[@shitbox7413]

I would order a copy as well. 👍🏻

[@hoost3056]

You know what, Nitrous Outlet is pretty good about tuning advice.

[@erikalston4496]

9.20 to 9.30s 145... car is flying for stock bottom end!

[@triplehfarmsllc7348]

Idk if it’s stock block though we have split a lot of em 😂 much over a 150 shot and they don’t tend to do well

[@ronjohns8002]

sub 10 sec passes are flying with stock block ford 302 v8!!

[@thefoxdoctor1072]

Back in 1994 I was running 10.40's with a stock bottom end 302 with some old TFS Will Burt Aluminum heads, Wolverine 1087 camshaft, Bennet Racing upper intake w/ GT40 lower, Pro M 77mm maf, Accufab 75mm throttle body, 30lb injectors, SX Fuel Pump and Filter, C4 Transmission w/3000 rpm Stall Converter and 4.30 gears and lakewood shocks and struts, Southside lift bars, Eibach springs and pretty much gutted out 1988 GT and of course a 175 shot Top Gun nitrous system. I had other little bolt ons of course but the bottom end was what came from the factory.

[@gsxrboi1000]

Those 306+nitrous cars are violent Everytime I see one

[@Quarterhorse_Performance]

I’ve seen a stock bottom end 302 in the 5.70’s at a track I work at. He put the moon tune in it trying to outrun a 351 with a turbo and he did just that and kicked a rod out the block.

[@Justa4banger79]

I know of a guy back in the 90s who ran low 10s in the 1/4 every weekend in his stock bottom 84 Capri.

[@kennethpowers8995]

With good heads and a healthy cam the 5.0 HO is actually a pretty good stock shortblock for its period in time. The Pistons are factory forged from TRW so they will take some spray. I’ve gone 10.96 on a stock HO shortblock in an 88 Notch around 2850# race weight on spray. I did put good hardware in the bottom end though and open up the ring gap a bit, but stock pistons/rods/crank, OEM bearings etc. XE274, AFR small chamber heads as cast and a healthy Edelbrock fogger/direct port setup. Lots of chassis prep and suspension bits as well- the car itself had been in the 9.20s with a different combination but when the original engine grenaded I threw this together to play around for the remainder of that season.

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

I thought they stopped putting forged pistons after 86? I'm not trying to say you're wrong because you obviously owned these cars but that's what I've been told

[@robertclymer6948]

Just incredible performance. Joey has worked his magic again. I am still in awe of this 302. Dayyyyyyyyum. Cheers from Motown.

[@richardwarfield7386]

The faster it is the more tailights fall off. That red Chevelle was a rocketship !

[@Quik5oh]

LMAO! I've seen all kinds of crap happen to cars at the strip.... hatches pop up, hoods open, axles break, etc .... never seen taillight lens come off!

[@gregswafford9839]

Sweet ride my man makes me wanna head out to the garage now. I wish 1000x over i would have done some heads, cam and intake swap on mine a long time ago. 11 years ago I went 7.05@ 95mph with a complete long block fuel injected 302, nothing ported with 150 shot.

[@waynebollentin989]

Not sure why some are so doubtful about this. Back in the late 90s early 2000's there were a few of us that went well into the 9s (low 6s in the 1/8) with a stock bottom end with nitrous and supercharger. Obviously the ring gap wasn't stock most of the time and with the vortech I ran Gen 6 DFI and not carb but other than that it had factory pistons, rods and crank. Plus I did it with a manual transmission too. but hey no body believed us back then or had the balls to put their money on the bench to pull the motor to prove it. So why would it be any different today I guess. Shit with an AOD and the stock 235 tires I went 10.80s all day with nitrous back then at a track rental with Disomma before anyone knew who he was. I think I used more nitrous that day than everyone else together lol. If you can get a car to cover the first 300ft quick and clean. Your going to have a great ET. It's amazing how many people don't understand how important that is. It's hilarious in the comment section of Cleetus's channel with Leroy. Many think if it had the factory body on it would be quicker. They actually think aero is going to improve his 60ft to 330 time where the car needs the help most. I don't think they've even been 4.99 in the 8th yet and aero is simply not going to fix that. Getting the car to 60ft where it should will fix the problem. Anyway great video and love the car. Brought back so many fun memories from back in the day. Really makes me want to build another one actual. Stay safe bro and good luck next time out.

[@bdd1469]

I've been saying the same thing about leroy all along. The car is cool but it would be so much faster if they focused on dialing in what they have. On the other hand, if you have unlimited funds, and a stable full of cars, I can see where throwing money at shit to go fast could be a lot of fun.

[@Foxbody_Guy]

Easy with those facts..ppl will bring up the wind tunnel vid lmao.

[@waynebollentin989]

@@Foxbody_Guy you mean the video that most couldn't comprehend when it comes to drag racing ? Then yes. Unless you been fast. Most just don't understand how important that first 0 to 330 feet is especially the first 0 to 60 compared to say the last 300ft. ET is all front half. MPH is all backhalf. Drag racing 101.

[@Boostedjasper]

Great comment, always good to listen to what works, regardless of when it was👍 building a vortech/nitrous combo now, just curious what your ring gap was? Stock bottom end w/HCI is what i’ve got but i’m good with pulling it apart as well 3.12 pulley+75 shot.

[@waynebollentin989]

@@Boostedjasper while it was a stock bottom end. The ring gap was changed. Everyone has their theories but I never had a ring gap problem going back 20+ years. I've ran 250shot on the stock bottom end and factor ring gap too. The tune is very important also, as is the ring gap. If the tune is off. All the gap in the world won't save you but this is what I always found to work for me. Top ring with .0055 × bore size. So 4.00 bore × .055 would be .022 2nd ring .057 × bore size 4.00 ×.055 .022 Now depending on how much more boost you add and nitrous it goes up from their. Maybe .057 to .063 × the bore. If it's a mild set up .005 × the bore would be fine. That's .020 ring gap with a 4.00 Also remember if the block has been bored, you factor that into the equation. Also the more compression the motor has N/A. The more the ring gap. If the car isn't going to be driven on the street. Some will run more on the side of caution and run .002-.005 more gap. If you get new rings. Get the thinner rings with the spacers. The thinner ring can be worth about 10hp on a 600hp engine. They have less friction but still do the job just as good. Hope this helps and feel free to ask anything else. Good luck bro. If you build a motor. Don't be afraid of compression. It's only your enemy if you don't account for it. Otherwise it can be your best friend. It's been mine for decades. Thanks to a good friend of mine by the name of Disomma.

[@driveitlikeyastoleit55]

Nice! It was the taillight delete mod that did it lol.

[@johnnyg9507]

Great Show Man! Great Footage! Your Narration Is Clean as and Smooth!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Thanks

[@bigheadedmartian]

@@TurboJohnRacing I got 1965 ford f100 with a 352 two barrel I'am looking for a drive train you got any thing also in a wheel chair.

[@RegularGuyGarage]

Met Joey and some of Ugly Kid Racing guys at Galot the other day. Solid group of guys. Just talking to him about my turbo stock block sbf setup made me feel a lot better about pushing it a little more.

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

A good tune will stretch out the potential on stock components. That's what many people leave out when trashing Windsor builds.

[@brutallyhonestmf5578]

I never thought this thing will run low 9s... Respect for the tuner/builder.

[@JungaBungaRacing]

Good work mate! That's a stout combo, keep the videos coming

[@kennyallison7201]

damn that rolling! I hate to seeing those lx tail lights bouncing down the track, lol.

[@king18722]

Absolutely a monster car! Thanks for the content and Info!

[@carlgill5946]

Is he running water in the block? I thought i seen a water pump. Man the block must be close to its limit! Im impressed !! This makes me continue to love the 302 man! Oh and still to this day i think the 302 is one of the best sounding street engines ever made!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

It does have water, unfilled

[@johnhickman7922]

Best I’ve seen on a stock bottom end with juice was 6.1 at around 114. High port heads and a plate. Didn’t last long though.

[@smithperformanceracing5848]

Helps dramatically being a coupe car. Great job 👍

[@mikekozi-lester3887]

🎉🎉🎉🎉 Were you tapping the pedal when u zoomed it looked like the tire was doing idel drive with the roors

[@jasonhastings5538]

Man!!!! I really need to get mine done asap!!!! Watch you guys and ls nasty crew makes me wanna just pay someone to finish it up!! Great video Turbo John!!! Thanks

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Racing will be going strong again really soon. Better get busy.

[@marcuskaiser1730]

@@TurboJohnRacing What is cam and intake nitrous set up????

[@ronjohns8002]

that Ford Windsor 302 v8 stock block must be using a mains girdle especially with NOS shots spraying the way to sub 10 sec passes!

[@avp5964]

Love it thanks for the video. Didn't know radials came that tall look like a bias ply.

[@mattwarfel9723]

Super cool turbo john love your variety of the content great to see track time!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Thanks

[@thaddeuswilliams4235]

Keep up the good work, I'm watching and taking notes 👍

[@jasonrizzo3106]

We ran low 6's in 1/8th, stock bottom end, on a 150 dry kit, drilled out NOS jet

[@oldschoolbudgetracing1458]

So he has the stock block nitrous record in his car at 5.11 and he is going for the stock bottom end record with his wife's car. That is dedication.

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Yes, but he is going turbo in the stock block car.......then he will probably sell all his nitrous stuff.....lol......I hope not though.

[@oldschoolbudgetracing1458]

@@TurboJohnRacing I hear ya. I have been a life long nitrous guy (30+ years) but I am looking to put together a turbo LS in the not so distant future.

[@antprice2012]

Nice! Great pass fastest i ever went was 6:60 in 1/8 on stock bottom end but only sprayed 150 shot

[@Andy-bv8gp]

I agree I have a 1986 Fox body I could watch this all day also awesome!

[@K-Effect]

My grandpa told me you know you're going in the right direction when both tail lights come off at the same time

[@robertdouglas3456]

Awesome! Great job of driving & setting the 302 Mustang up!

[@GroverBoysRacing777AdamGrover]

I got an e7 headed stock short block 302 w an anderson n51 goin 6.30s on a 150 shot pump gas and a 5 speed. Just changed a few things to see how fast i can get it to go

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Nice

[@GroverBoysRacing777AdamGrover]

@@TurboJohnRacing thanks. My goals 5.60s and 8.8x in the quarter.

[@TheThemattyo1]

This little small block is violent" You know the Glidden family would love this car. Sounds like a radical duration lift...good hole shot gear..4:11 ?

[@faststang5897]

Back in the 80s Moroso Block filler used to work on High Horsepower Engines !!!!!! Awesome Built

[@hotshothogger]

I love this fox! Such a bad ass! You must have notched the Pistons for the performer rpm heads to work? Killer combo!

[@Uglykidracing8.2]

Thanks, and yes the pistons are notched.

[@woodgrain18]

I swear I cant count how many times iv seen foxbodys spit taillights out!! LoL

[@bigoh5797]

John , You have the most enjoyable racing Channel out there. Average guys like myself can relate completely .. You Don't need to be a Millionaire to Race or go fast and just have fun.. I have a 1990 Fox Body Hatch Gutted and Caged with A "Carbed Lol" Stock bottom end LS Making almost 800hp on a 200 Plate Shot... Thanks for all of the Helpful Videos... We own a Body Shop In Texas, If you were Closer i Would Donate a Paint Job To You !!!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Awesome, sounds like you have a cool hot rod!

[@johnnymoran1177]

He's got an Atlantic Coast converter too!! Shhh, don't tell everyone the secret, Dave is the man!

[@hoost3056]

Yo, Turbo John, typo in the title "Stock Bottem?" Just looking out👍 That 5.82 pass was not that far off the built 306 number. Your guy knows how to tune👍

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Thanks

[@alabamakid9209]

I never seen a 302 run like that

[@alabamakid9209]

Whats the budget? just (motor) on the build on the stock end

[@alabamakid9209]

That's type of racing i grew up on ...

[@alabamakid9209]

Ans can i get in touch with you?

[@barneymiller7894]

@@alabamakid9209 Ugly kid racing, thats who your looking for.

[@bryantracing3022]

Its not stock no stock pistions will take spray

[@theredfordfiles7095]

Are the pistons and rings stock as well? I have a 460 that needs some of that.. I would like to pick his brain a bit on this...👍👍. Good video

[@hoost3056]

Thats the same chassis that the Suicidal 306ci engine was in, right?

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Yes

[@darrincarter8350]

Buy a set of adjustable rears shocks set stiff. 5.0 GT convertible coil springs( cut one coil off) anti-roll bar would be great but if not, Airlift airbag in the right rear. FRONT : 90/10 or coil overs. You need the rearend to plant the tires and the nose to stay-up on launch

[@down2earthparanormal145]

that sounds like my buddy rieleys foxbody that he built i hope he still tinkers with engines hes good a

[@lancefoster2709]

Already went 5.88 on stock shortblock 302 fuelinjected with 5 speed 180 shot dry system Southside upper and lowers wolfcraft antiroll bar daily driver to work.

[@timia0912]

Wow and it’s flat tappet that’s just amazing

[@motorcityracing7319]

Awesome finally got the carb iusse fix on Smurf juice now need to figure out why went throw 6lb of nitrous in two 100 shot passes then back back to track and test more

[@matt-be8kt]

WOW not another pizza cutter mustang with a turbo LS in it. What heads are you running? Atleast some 225 CNC ported, solid roller cam, any chance you will give us cam specs?

[@brianblack6256]

I believe mark Miller is a sauce car and has been 4.9x way ahead of the pace. Their is a list on 8.2 deck mafia showing the top 10 fastest stock bottom end cars and all low low 5’s.

[@awee5816]

I wonder what kind of Carburetor it has?

[@Whatever-gv3gq]

I’d like to see what it runs on a full 1/4th pass

[@ericaikens5339]

All y'all need is a sponsor you got to gif somebody will recognize you guys you will go far in the future

[@steveni00318]

Nice vid as always John!

[@echota23]

What are the rules regarding stock bottom end 302 nitrous? I might be a contender in this race. Ive a 302 powered 1990 isuzu pup building it for 1/8th mile still a few months out before the build is ready to take out to the track to get dialed in. 18 point cage, 9" rear with spool 4.56 gears 4link, 28" tire, 4 speed auto, NX peremeter plate.

[@joshschonfeld3675]

What a savage launch! She's rowdy!

[@Stevesbe]

My fingers use to be so tough from changing hot plugs on my nitrous motors

[@slopoke22]

Seen this car before I think. Is his name sandman or something like that? If so I've seen it ALOT. I had a fast stock 302 as well. I quit goin on it but it was rolling well. Now I got a stock crank Windsor that I'm tryin to hit low 5s and is a street car.

[@twinturbocoyoteftw]

I just got my 408 stock block back.tigether. Getting everything dialed in for the spray! I made some 6 teen passes on motor with low timing so it's gonna get scethy soon when that 250 shot comes in!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Good luck, you shouldn't have an issue!

[@slopoke22]

@@twinturbocoyoteftw If you look at my channel. I have the same stuff but I ported the heads real nice, matched the intake with some epoxy, and I have a 2 stage progressive setup on it this year. I wanna hit some 5.1x-3x licks with it maybe lil faster at season end. On some small drag radials.

[@corsacrew3966]

What nitrous kit and carb is on it? We are building a sleeper thunderbird 5.0 :D

[@stephenmitchell3569]

Super video like you always do! Thank You for sharing!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Thanks

[@patcastro6638]

302 in my new age. Coming soon. Cookin it . Ready to cook my street lights

[@UGGdyno]

7:09 - lower right corner of rear window FTW! Congrats Joey!

[@UGGdyno]

7:03, not 7:09, lol

[@krisjones2265]

Love how it kept knocking the lens out of the tail lights 😂

[@jims5852]

Cool Tj, thanks man🤙

[@BLACKLACDTS]

I love these type of cars and videos. One question tho.. why would I need to hit up a racing engine builder for my SBE engine?

[@TurboJohnRacing]

The tunes,,the bearing and ring clearances, the cam specs, the heads, the carb specs etc.

[@BLACKLACDTS]

Turbo John gotcha. Does he mess with Ls?

[@timothybrennan3169]

True stock bottom end? Stock displacement? Or is this a 306 with fully forget internals ?

[@bryansage6925]

old torker 289 intake haha l love it...

[@Bricklinsv1970]

That little 302 is rowdy!

[@deanlindsey304]

You need to make a video with that white Nova I like to see what he's running

[@toddwester13]

He did one a couple of weeks ago on my car. Great video be sure to go check it out.

[@jcnpresser]

Todd your nova is pretty bad dude!

[@deanlindsey304]

Yeah Todd I seen that I'd like to see some more my Nova's going 590's all steel and bumpers

[@mikemarks1834]

This car and gray mare would be a great race

[@ziptiegarage]

Lol oh the grey mare would eat this up lol but this thing is a rocket for what it is lol

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

That ride is moving fast nice

[@jamiemuncy2219]

John where’d y’all get them brackets from to fit a fox I cannot find them anywhere, couldn’t find them on race craft web site

[@TurboJohnRacing]

www.racecraft.com/88-rear-end-housings-c-460/88-ford-bolt-on-lower-control-arm-housing-brackets-p-1515.html

[@Quik5oh]

Does stock bottom end mean untouched from Ford or just stock Ford parts?

[@oscarvillarreal8951]

It means it has everything stock just like it came out the manufacture.

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

So what are the power numbers on this car? I know track numbers are the ones that matter but I hear everyone talking bout how these blocks can't handle over 500.

[@mikelazar7954]

I love how the smart car was casually parked next to it in the beginning of the video

[@19jody72]

306 is not stock bottom end..just for the record. Love the content man!!

[@wolfracing9504]

Oh wow a 306 lol clown

[@19jody72]

@@wolfracing9504 dont ignore the facts. Any idiot knows a 306 is not a stock bottom end

[@stevengrissom7142]

No they make stock replacement pistons in what ever size you need... what do you think they use in remanufactured replacement engines...duuhhh!

[@19jody72]

Damn..I see common sense is rare these days

[@TurboJohnRacing]

This engine is NOT a 306, it has factory pistons standard bore! The name of the car is Suicidal 306, because that is the engine that he used to run!

[@michaelkilgore6603]

What cylinder heads? Solid roller cam?

[@romaramazan7175]

Nitrous cars launch so Hard, turbo looking slow after this

[@briancanada4850]

He can get the back tire. 5.84 is in the way.. i might have to pull mine out the weeds haven't run it since 2008.

[@coreyfuchs730]

That mustang is wicked...How much nitrous are you running

[@halarivett5820]

Went a 6.09 8 years ago on bone stock e7 short block 86 coupe car weighed 2750 with driver on a 28x9 tire

[@tauras665]

All about you...SMH!! Got any comment about the upload.....???

[@ztwntyn8]

He is barely even spraying 350hp of nitrous to it 😂 Runs hard though so good tuning to stay together

[@philipmazzuca2269]

That bottom end is bone stock? Pistons? Ring gaps? No blueprinting?

[@creeracing4146]

He’s going to have to change the name to Suicidal 302 because no one can understand the car has a name and used to have a 306 lol

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Right! lol

[@woodgrain18]

I'd be doin everything I could to shave numbers ditch those heavy jegs front wheels and tires maybe one of those neat looking plexiglass scoops nitrous guys use! LoL its definitely got low 70's high 60's in it!

[@Nobodyofimportance2u]

That is true innovation and cunning

[@FordMaverickFanatic]

Love this video John! I was wondering since it's. 030" over are they stock-style TRW pistons or domes? The rods and crank I'm sure are original but what about the bolts? The definition of SBE is always a bit hazy. Awesome car regardless!

[@superstocker6574]

It’s not factory stock bore or compression. They mean stock crank and rods, probably with ARP hardware and definitely a lot more compression than stock (so yes, some degree of some on those pistons). Sounds like it more than 11:1 compression for sure, but hard to tell.

[@michaelgiglio1571]

What's wrong with wheel spin, on soft rubber.

[@Crooked_Clown]

He's slowly destroying that Stock Bottom End with the Nitrous, and the tail lights as well.