Worse Than The Criterion? | Pan’s Labyrinth 4K UltraHD Blu-ray Review

[@MarlinAmada]

The criterion releases are typically really really high quality

[@bradybarrett5354]

I was just going to stick with my Criterion release anyway but good to know. Hard to beat Criterion with their transfers, packaging and features.

[@avgfilm2424]

Brady Trent Especially their transfers!

[@off_key88]

I know this video is from 4 years ago... but, thank you for this! I was on the fence about which version to get. Knowing that the criterion version was supervised by Guillermo del Toro himself is great to know. The 4k version is harder to get now (4 years later) but Amazon still has the stand alone Criterion Blu Ray. It's roughly the same price as the 4k. As you said, that makes it a 'No Brainer'!! Ordered the Criterion version! Can't wait!

[@stephenbarrera9634]

Also worth mentioning is the Arrow Waterworld limited edition blu ray vs Universal 4k. From the reviews I saw the Arrow release was the better of the releases, especially considering the Ulysses cut.

[@jimcameron1234]

Arrow minus UNIVERSAL DTS X immersive audio!

[@monkeker]

There is a 4K release of Don’t Look Now put out by Studio Canal. That movie also has a Criterion blu-ray release.

[@ajc9387]

Disappointing to hear, I love the movie and had high hopes for the 4k

[@ResidentHorror]

O no

[@THATGUYTALKSMOVIES]

Had to watch this first prior to deciding on which disc to grab for the current B&N Criterion 50% off sale. Glad I watched. Going with Criterion. Thanks dude!

[@pizzatime2001]

I was watching the Criterion version on my OLED, but the raised black levels were distracting. Does the 4K actually have deep blacks, or are they still raised?

[@Shenmue06]

The vudu 4k version has Dolby vision and Dolby digital plus so it's a little bit better than the physical 4k release. Overall im happy with the vudu version because I got it on sale for 10 dollars. It's good enough for me 😃!

[@blackfacebogart]

Seven Samurai US rights are owned by Janus Films. That's not coming out on anything BUT Criterion. But that said, I wouldn't mind if they finally released a 4K edition of Seven Samurai as the first Criterion 4K release.

[@mhortop1]

Yeah this is disappointing but you’ve saved me a pile of dough so I’m not too broken up about it! Criterion and Arrow are the best!

[@davepastern]

if you're American and region A, I guess...but for the rest of the world, Criterion and Arrow do SFA for us...so, in all honesty, I couldn't give 2 shits about criterion and arrow...`

[@HorneyHuntsmann]

@@davepastern most arrow releases are region b as they are a uk company.

[@davepastern]

@@HorneyHuntsmann yeah, but aren't they 4k on a standard blu ray, so technically not 4k?

[@HorneyHuntsmann]

@@davepastern yeah, i didnt say they were 4k.

[@davepastern]

@@HorneyHuntsmann not much good then imho...

[@allsportnj]

If you have the previous HD DVD, Blu-ray and Criterion releases you won't see too much of a difference, except for the colors, unless you have a large TV or projector. Also, even though the 5.1 mix seems like a downgrade from the previous 7.1 mix you can't really tell the difference due to how they mixed the channels.

[@moviefan1970s]

“Pan’s Labyrinth” is one of my favorite films! It may be a bit of a downgrade, but I wonder if it’s worth buying the Criterion Collection Blu-ray, even though I own the 4K Blu-ray.

[@hello.im.auggie]

You won't ever regret buying a Criterion, the bonus features on each title is more than enough of a reason to skip a higher picture.

[@KarlFilmLover]

Thanks so much for this video! I’ve been holding out for the 4K release instead of getting Criterion but now I’m going to get it for sure. I love Criterion and I’m happy to give them my business.

[@tylerwatts3347]

As a fan of Pan's labyrinth, to me the WB 4k is actually a great looking transfer

[@gleamingtv3946]

Pan's Labyrinth is such a good movie. luckily I understand spanish. Will be buying the Criterion blu ray.

[@cinema.inspired]

Regarding the criterion release, is it region locked or can you watch it on a regular PS3/PS4? I believe I read that it’s an import ?

[@JeffRauseo]

ThePassionateGamer the Criterion is Region A, as are all of their titles. I think they launched a UK label but I can’t remember how far the went.

[@cinema.inspired]

Films At Home thanks! region a works in US/Canada correct?

[@JeffRauseo]

ThePassionateGamer yes sir. Region A is US/Canada, South America and I Think Japan and South Korea

[@cinema.inspired]

Films At Home that awesome! They have such awesome art work. Time to start buying some stuff. Great video.

[@tony951jl]

Are you going to do Scarface 4k Blu-ray review when it releases?

[@theoneders2056]

Wow...thanks for the detailed review, what a huge disappointment. I almost bought this today but I'm so glad I didn't. I'll be upgrading from my bluray to the Criterion instead.

[@ggaanneesshhaa]

Is there a Trainspotting 4K bluray?

[@jimcameron1234]

Only T2 (not Arnold movie)

[@AdAstra78]

May I please ask what kind of tv you use for these reviews? Given the context, i would hope it's an OLED.

[@JeffRauseo]

I have a Samsung QLED and an Epson 5050 UB Projector

[@AdAstra78]

@@JeffRauseo Ah nice, thank you for the info. Keep up the good work sir. You're a diamond amongst the rough.

[@pepsimax8078]

Found out the criterion was region locked, so I can’t get that one. I have the DVD, so if the 4k will be an upgrade from the blu-ray, it will def be an upgrade from the DVD 😅 so I might just get the 4K 😄

[@benzi1521]

Random question I’m sure you get all the time. I live in California and want to start collecting horror movies. I love the arrow video cases, features, etc. but they’re mostly region B as of now which sucks. I know scream factory and Criterion are region A focused but I’m not really sure which is the best one to invest in. I’d like to have one focus rather than random movies from different companies. Any tips or recommendations?

[@psychomoth06]

You really can’t go wrong with either. Not sure why you would want to limit yourself to one or the other, to be honest. They both are great companies to purchase from. You’ll probably have a wider selection from Shout Factory, but that’s about it.

[@Aarejayy]

Is the blu ray in the mondo steelbook the same as the 07 blu ray?

[@davepastern]

Jeff, have you seen Errementari: The Blacksmith and the Devil? it's sadly not on blu ray or 4k, you can get it on DVD, but it's a streaming movie from Netflix. It looks amazing imho.

[@chrisd6736]

Can someone explain to me why criterion doesn’t do 4K? Do they have plans to? I would def start buying some of their stuff if they did.

[@davepastern]

prolly cos they don't have a licence from the studio to do 4k...

[@joelnachos7988]

@@davepastern “prolly cos” they will, and you just have to be patient🥴 Arrows already on it. Criterion will be too.

[@1luiszepol]

Criterion Transfers are great. I will get Criterion's Pan's, but also The Passion of Joan of Arc Blu-ray also from Criterion.

[@emilyvilleneuve9315]

I wondering if the Criterion release will be OOP now that the studio has put put a new release.

[@DrLoomis666]

plus the it was nothing to do with bitrate even though the apple 4k release does have less bit rate the overall color and lighting was just much better on the Criterion silence of the lambs

[@AnthonyPeralta]

Can you do a side by side comparison of the picture quality ? 🙂

[@cinema.inspired]

I can’t find this release anywhere. Same with the shining on 4K.

[@TheHellboy1980]

its not out ill oct 15...shining came out today

[@cinema.inspired]

Agent Hunk thanks for the reply. Even shining I can’t find. Idk if it’s a different release for Canada

[@RandomVideos-py9wx]

It came out on Vudu on 4k digital

[@DonnieDarko_420]

I have the Mondo steelbook of this movie. Is the blu ray in that steel book from the 07 release? If so i will upgrade.

[@DrLoomis666]

The Criterion Silence of the lambs is much better than the apple tv 4k hdr silence of the lambs also. 4k hdr is not at the top of the list when it comes to quality on movie releases, color timing and perfect grain structure stuff like that matter much more. i watched the arrow release of videodrome a few days ago and was thinking to myself a regular studio release of videodrome in 4k will not beat this release

[@FilmCollectorArchive]

Best of luck to the big studios trying to beat the work of Criterion. It will not happen. This is one reason I have not gone 4K in my collection. I don't feel that I need to. With the wonderful work coming from labels like Criterion, Arrow, and other botique labels, you know you're in good hands. That is not to say that there aren't titles that should be bought in 4K (I'm lookin' at you Blade Runner 2049), I'm just not sold on that format as being a dominant force....at all.

[@JoeySkellington17]

Fantastic Mr. Fox Criterion Blu Ray looked stupendous on my Xbox one s/Samsung 4K tv!!

[@josephwortman6789]

The standard blu-ray included with the 4K is the same one from the 2007 release, so you should be able to do a direct comparison.

[@geogan2]

This is one of my favourite movies of all time (I only have original Bluray), and after reading reviews and then listening to this review, I am very disappointed by the shit-shovelling to 4K that goes on these days (I think the studios themselves are the ones shooting themselves in the foot and putting more nails in the 4K disc format coffin every day TBH). Might see how much the Criterion disc costs and get that instead. p.s. is the "back-focus" intentional? Either focus on your face or use a smaller f-stop on camera to give larger depth-of-field and have your face and discs in focus at same time.

[@SuperGrumpyDaddy]

One thumb down, was that a Warner Bros. executive?! 😂

[@KevinKrueger86]

Mark Jones 😂😂

[@EpicGamerWinXD69]

Well there's 17 now, so I guess the executive showed this video to the board of directors or something

[@manzodiver9486]

Its true 7.1 DTS hd is better than 5.1 DTS hd , but the 4k is better than 1080 HD resolution ... I watched that movie in 4K with DTSHd 5.1 , but is still great the sound and the 4K is amazing ... I will no watching in 1080 p if I have a premium 65 “ 4K hdr OLED 3D curve .. I will never. Never never l choose 1080 p if the move have 4K .. DTS 7.1 is awesome , but DTS 5.1 is not bad , is still good ..

[@jimcameron1234]

Right fuck those extra two back channels

[@davet1081AA]

Nice job, and appreciate your honesty & no shilling for the (I assume) freebie. Too bad about the new release. Pan's Criterion bluray is one of the first discs I watched after I bought my 4k set, just to see how the FALD would perform with all the shadowy dark scenes - stunning, beautiful and blacks like ink. ALERT! Criterion 1/2 price sale at Barnes & Noble usually begins around Thanksgiving!!! - start making your list! 😃😄😉

[@Scro10m]

Do you have to selfie vlog the entire video?

[@hi-fihaven2257]

Glad I watched your video before I hit the add to cart button on Amazon for the 4k disc. Purchased the Criterion edition instead. Thanks for the great review!

[@SamLovesMovies25]

Yeah, in comparing screenshots of the 4K to the Criterion Collection Blu Ray, I agree that the Criterion version looks better. In the 4K version it looks oddly smoothed over, whereas the Criterion version retains the grain (where all the detail is in the picture) so the Criterion version looks sharper in this particular case despite the lower resolution.

[@jimalbruzzess2445]

Jaws 4K better not suck!!!! Or I will cry like a suckling baby. Great review Jeff. 🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@KevinKrueger86]

Jim Albruzzess I doubt that movie will ever come to 4k I unfortunately

[@jimcameron1234]

I want CGI new made Bruce! Hahaha

[@paulekylou]

@@KevinKrueger86 I'm sure you're happy to be wrong. ;-)

[@angel6243]

Hi great review Pan's Labyrinth is one of my favorite movies I have the original DVD after seeing your review I decided to buy the Pan's Labyrinth Criterion releases Blu-ray.

[@Dousch]

Great video, you have a new subscriber. I much prefer Criterion. I hope all the best films eventually gets a re-release through them. I’ve been looking forward to going back to Pan’s Labyrinth this fall. It’s been over 5 years since I saw that masterpiece.

[@MCstrickG6]

Can you make a video about Criterion? I'd like to learn more about them.

[@shitpostheavy]

YOU SHALL NOT PASS MAT are you serious

[@myfasmarine]

This video is a good start! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH3WgamIq9megsk Also, check out the Subreddit /r/Criterion. You can also message me if you have any questions :)

[@MCstrickG6]

@@myfasmarine thx

[@MCstrickG6]

@@shitpostheavy Gotta start somewhere.

[@jamesonpatz]

This is a solid review, dude.

[@hexus9198]

I do like that 4k cover though

[@twistedviewlabs]

Criterion has always had stunning releases going back to Laserdisc when comparing major studio home media release versions. They've always been the gold standard when it comes to home video releases. I compare them to what MoFi is for audio releases on CD & vinyl. Both places charge a premium but you get your money's worth for sure.

[@joshuacalkins]

Good work. Thank you!

[@luckybu5ter815]

Thanks, Doing God's work.

[@hdmoviesource]

Great video, oh it was definitely rushed. I think this is a shame because I love the movie.

[@fact-factcheck4680]

Thanks for the review! It means a lot to someone who could have otherwise mistakenly picked up an interior version, why would I consider it over the Criterion in the first place!

[@noeldillabough]

Saved me picking this up...too bad they blew it on the 4k

[@acooper37]

Great info, this is a title I've been meaning to get, but haven't yet. Looks like I'll just get the Critierion release which is usually hard to beat.

[@FigureOutFilms]

Thanks for answering this question! 4k physical media is such an unknown and with so many options becomes nerve wrecking. Love watching this channel

[@thejohnperryshow1156]

Very interesting review, and this helps me a lot as I've never seen the movie (dont judge 🤯) but would have been tempted to buy it on 4k for my first watch, by seeing your video I can make an informed choice 👍👍👍🤔😁

[@hexus9198]

The Barnes & Noble biannual 50% off Criterion sale should be coming up soon. 👍🏼

[@juniord3997]

Which one has the English dub so I don't have to read subtitles?

[@nekromantik2009]

Criterion edition is trash with color changes. Looks bad! Best release is the UK Blu Ray.

[@jimcameron1234]

Yes like Chris Nolan Films all are Yellowish color timed

[@benzi1521]

Oh shit, I though that was the art for the 4k version. Almost busted out my wallet and bought that shit right now😂😂 criterion covers are so cool

[@Zombiezero4]

I had the standard blu ray, but i picked up the Criterion blu ray when Barnes & Noble sale a couple years ago.

[@celluloidtherapy5003]

After the absolute SHOW-STOPPING transfer on The Shining, this is absolutely unacceptable. This is the kind of nonsense that I always fear with new(ish) formats, is the LAZY release. During early bluray, Sony did something similar with The Fifth Element, and tossed it out on bluray, only the transfer was virtually indistinguishable from the DVD. Don’t support this by buying the Pan’s Labyrinth 4k: as movie lovers, collectors, and keepers of history, we deserve better.

[@stephensdygert7600]

Im not sure if it was you or someone else. The new 4k Guardians of the Galaxy 1 smokes the bluray. Antman in 4k is pure IMAX looks 3D. Absolutly unbelievable. Just as good if not better than Aquaman or King Kong, which are reference 4k state of the art looking. The new DR Strange in 4k destroys the blura. Someone try to say the Guardians 4k 1 doesn't look or sound better than the bluray. Im.here to tell ya, nothing good be farther from the truth. It should a law that you have to buy Antman in 4k. Im kidding of course. This 4k realease of Antman looks 8k!!!!!!#

[@jimcameron1234]

Stephen..... yes true Guardians of the galaxy + doctor strange on UHD HDR BLU-RAY killers i as 3D fan will double dip both (maybe my only MARVEL UHD movies) on 4k

[@stephensdygert7600]

@@jimcameron1234 Just finished watching Spider man "far from home" The finest piece of 4k video I have ever seen in my life. Absolutely breathtaking. 3D with out those stupid glasses, that gives you a headache. They should pass a federal law, that all 4k disc have to have dolby vision. The black level was so intense on this Vizio quantum dot 65 inch tv. I had to call the "clan" to adust it..JUST KIDDING. !!!!!! KIDDING!!!!

[@jimcameron1234]

@@stephensdygert7600 Well my DOLBY 3D (INFITEC made in Germany) system is as good as at DOLBY CINEMA except LASER projection, JVC DLA X7000 double stack at 120 wide screen with almost OLED black/deep contrast i will never turn my back to 3D first comes 3D second 4K but just me man

[@jimcameron1234]

@@stephensdygert7600 no headache with my system that i guarantee you 3D 4K E-shift as bright and sharp as 2D image at 3 meter screen including 8 frame shffting every movie without black bars

[@jimcameron1234]

@@stephensdygert7600 The problem with this sequel not as great as the first one i hated all European setting scenes Spider-Man belongs to New York City my opinion only

[@DungeonStudio]

I hope WB isn't getting "cheap" with it's 4K releases? Can't help but think Stanley Kubrick must be rolling in his grave with all this 4k business now. And Eyes Wide Shut is nearing 20 years already, and what WB plans to do with that will be interesting. I'm not intrigued at all over this 4k stuff at all still.

[@branm.4661]

DungeonStudio The Shining 4K looks very good, so hopefully the rest will come out great.

[@jimcameron1234]

Eyes wide shut is plan ..this year in 4K for theatrical release so the 4K UHD is not far away

[@DungeonStudio]

Wow! I don't think The Shining was theatrically released in 4k? I know 2001 was, thanks to Christopher Nolan. It would be interesting to see who races to the theaters to see EWS again. I almost did with 2001, but I've seen it so many times in numerous formats I think I'd fall asleep in the theater, no matter how good it looked. LOL

[@jimcameron1234]

@@DungeonStudio Here the 20th anniversary Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4fGhZxrmZeCfrs

[@jimcameron1234]

@@DungeonStudio here the Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4fGhZxrmZeCfrs

[@TriforcePlayer2]

I'm very glad you did this

[@danielj.glowny4108]

After all these years you would think they would make a English dub version rather than just the Spanish.

[@MadonnaRockedGermany]

Thanx for the review Jeff and I was really surprised that the Criterion transfer on Blu-ray really as you said out performs the 4K picture. We have an amazing 6 Disc Ultimate Collection here in Germany, which features the Criterion transfer and a 3 Disc Collector´s Edition, which also comes with the Criterion transfer. I own the 3 Disc Collector´s Edition and it was an upgrade to the first Blu-ray release we had talking about both, picture and sound. The 6 Disc Ultimate Collection is still on my wishlist though. You can check out a nice unboxing of both of them in this video (not my video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6W7d3mfqc-IhMk

[@wking8]

Glad you told me. I own the criterion and as gonna pick this up until now.

[@danielworleyyy]

I’ve yet to buy a Criterion, but when I get around to buying this film it’ll definitely be what I get.

[@nicolas928]

Great video thanks!!

[@atoz6552]

Only Spanish track? F.... O.... I hoped for years to finally have other languages. WB has f.... deep here

[@melissalayson7275]

I'm pretty sure that it English subtitles for those us who can't speak Spanish fluently.

[@sleeman9]

UHD is actually better than criterion. People look so yellow on criterion that it seems they all have jaundice. You have no freakin idea what you are talking about, criterion fanboy. You should stop reviewing discs so you don't mislead people. 👎

[@jimcameron1234]

He is way too young to understand

[@melissalayson7275]

Or your just butthurt that someone has a different opinion than yours.

[@thefriendlyaspie7984]

who care about quality i watch in 720 ....

[@marygirardin5300]

Yeah, but do you have to buy the box set to get it?

[@bradybarrett5354]

mary girardin no you can buy it separately, that’s what I did.

[@ShanghaiRooster]

The Criterion Del Toro blu-ray box set is out of print now, but the three discs are all separately available.