Worst Possible Takeoff

[@Eddyspeeder]

Hi Kelsey, I love how respectful you always are when debriefing others, balancing out fair criticism with kindness, emphasizing with how they must be feeling, and showing understanding for how they ended up in the situation.

[@gingergranttech]

Thank you

[@laa0fa502]

Absolutely. I've seen way to many people tear into these guys like they've never made a mistake. We've all crashed a car, a motorcycle, or a plane.

[@michaelrichter9427]

@@laa0fa502 No, not everybody has crashed a vehicle.

[@laa0fa502]

@@michaelrichter9427 really? When you were a kid you never crashed your power wheels (the barbie jeep things) or wrecked your bike going down a hill that was DEFINITELY not meant for bikes? Huh I must've had a more exciting childhood than I thought

[@aviationandotherstuff6571]

Well, everybody in the video is a pilot. And even highly trained individuals make mistakes. There is no need to crack down on someone for making a mild mistake like these clips. By staying calm and treating each mistake as a learning opportunity, you are making yourself a better pilot.

[@ThomasMarrow]

Having to relive my worst nightmare on this video again 😂😂 thanks for the debrief! You hit the nail on the head about what happened to me!

[@whatthedeuce47d68]

Wait, was that you - looks like the plane in your profile bio? Where did that take place, just curious?

[@ThomasMarrow]

@@whatthedeuce47d68 It was me indeed - it was in South Africa

[@TheRepublicOfJohn]

Kelsey, pin this damn comment now!

[@deus_ex_machina_]

It looks like it was in the middle of nowhere. How did you get yourself and your plane back home?

[@ThomasMarrow]

@@deus_ex_machina_ the full video is on my channel ✈️

[@williamvigil2481]

Re: Compressor stall, the pilot, speaking Spanish, asks people to remain seated. A different voice, possibly the photographer, states in Spanish that a bird was pulled into the engine. Your analysis is spot on to the cause.

[@gedece]

The voice says "un pájaro" and that means "a bird"

[@aviatordiego4769]

@@gedece or a gay person😂

[@RFC-3514]

@@aviatordiego4769 *a gay _cuban_ (or dominican) person.

[@joeshmoe7967]

@@aviatordiego4769 typically a gay person isn't flying high enough to get sucked into an engine........I think bird is the correct assumption.....

[@MarkW1210]

@@joeshmoe7967 I'm 80% certain that you are joking because I don't believe gay people can fly

[@joesamson8666]

3:12 "I was talking to a helicopter friend of mine..." That's how you know you have reached a Jedi level among pilots...when you are now befriending aircrafts!!! Congrats Kelsey, I'm inspired!!!👏👏👏

[@Skarry]

May have been someone who self identifies, similar to how I do as a human.

[@ChrisWashburn]

@@Skarry I'm surprised to see word of my kind, I'm an Apache Attack Helicopter and I'm proud to come out in 2021.

[@Vpmatt]

He doesn’t talk to his helicopter friend anymore because the conversation just goes round in circles.

@@ChrisWashburn are you transphobic?

[@ChrisWashburn]

@ no

[@nothingtoseehere4026]

For a C+ student you always have A+ content. As a fellow pilot, I always look forward to your perspective. Thanks for all you do.

[@kristita_888]

Not everyone does great in the classroom. Many people who perceive themselves as poor students go on to excel in their careers. 😊 Kelsey is definitely one of them. I always enjoy his commentary, humor, and what I learn from his channel!

[@debbie4503]

Well, you see there's book smart and there's "Street Smart". I will take Street (or Air) Smart every single time.

[@davedevun3050]

the positive reinforcement that you give to new pilots is really awesome

[@ReviewApaHariIni]

Bounced off the runway on my second solo. And boy was I glad humming "You can always go around" on final because it was the fastest go around decision I ever did 😂

[@enginerdy]

I’m sure the momentum didn’t hurt!

[@radbaron]

poor Marcie. Not only does she get her own segment, she gets a callback at the end of the video! :D

[@Maderyne]

She may have gaffed her landing, but I'd fly with her anyway!

[@thealleys]

@@Maderyne why.

[@cerejota]

@@thealleys why not? 1) perfect approach 2) in spite of the propstrike, managed to not flipover Students make mistakes of two types: 1) inexperience 2) lack of talent #2 should stop trying to fly. But Marcie is clearly #1.

[@bmxerkrantz]

@@thealleys here is something I picked up sailing. We all have a bag we cannot see into. This bag contains the mistakes we are going to get away with. The only issue is, there is no duplicates in the bag. You hear Kelsey talk about o lot of his mistakes in this video.

[@Maderyne]

@@thealleys Why? Because she has spirit. People who take a machine, and go into the air have a sense of adventure. Not like normal people who live feet on the ground, but rather leave the earth and enter into a realm foreign to them, like those who dive deep into the ocean. These are the ones who seek to know what it's like to be more than just themselves. I applaud her spirit, and as I said in my previous comment, I would fly with her anyway!

[@stihlnz]

I have a cessna 180 taildragger and 1 bad habit I had was using the brake rather than the rudder. Keeping your heals on the floor is pretty important and this incident in a very light machine is a lesson to us all. Thanks for publishing it.

[@danielschornagel5800]

Hi Kelsey, just wanted to let you know your videos have inspired me to go for my private pilots liscence along with msfs lol just wanted to show my appreciation as I'm 29 and my life didn't really have any drive or direction until I found aviation and your videos have been a big help much love from the u.k and keep it blue side up brother stay safe

[@veramae4098]

Scott Kelly wrote "Endurance" about his year on the space station and parts of his life. Said he was messing around in high school, made worse because he had a "perfect" twin Mark Kelly with whom everyone compared him. Happened to read "The Right Stuff" ... and immediately knew that's what he wanted to do. Had to argue with his advisers to get into tougher classes, but he got in and took off! My very best wishes to you.

[@lindqvistsandra]

During my first long navigation solo I had a prop strike at one of the airfields and since then I really struggled to get back up because I lost faith in my ability. Now I´m slowly getting back into the air and I´m so thankful for people like Marcie who agree on sharing the video so we can learn because it´s a bit tricky to understand what´s going on from inside!

[@nelliemayo9886]

You keep going Sandra. You will get there!

[@oxcart4172]

I'm sure u can get over this little blip! Good luck!!!

[@sntslilhlpr6601]

I think Kelsey has said before that piloting is a humbling experience. Everyone makes mistakes. Try not to be so hard on yourself. Easier said than done, maybe, but just know you're not alone.

[@paulslevinsky580]

My second solo. I was a 16 and had flying figured out. I was going to impress everyone by sticking the gear on the numbers. Well, the C150 didn't sink as easily when lightened by160 pounds. I came over the numbers at 30 ft AGL with full flaps, no power, the nose pointing up at the sky...and the stall warning screaming in my ear because I needed to be nagged about all my mistakes at that very moment. I NAILED IT... landing right on the numbers as planned !!! Then I landed again a little further down the runway. Then I landed again. And again. My instructor was red as a tomato when he came out. We both walked around kicking the tires and looking for damage. To both our surprise, the little Cessna was still intact after I had bottomed-out the front oleo with an ear splitting "CRACK".

[@lilpapayaaa]

Great story! Made me laugh, thanks for sharing.

[@EstorilEm]

Those front struts sure can take a beating lmao. They also seem to like being deflated after you drive a damn hour to the airport and start your pre-flight. 😡

[@birds_eye_view]

Those little Cessnas can take really quite some beating. Forgiving planes to do your first learning in.

[@David_P132]

You left out what your instructor had to say after inspecting the plane . . .

[@test40323]

I like how Kelsey explain these lessons learned. It gives me more confidence knowing everyone had made these mistakes and gotten better for it.

[@CryptKeeperAquatics]

Never seen an influencer who can take such bad situations become fruitful stories. Kudos to you for educating without harsh criticism! I’ve only been in a plane once, about 20 years ago, but aviation has always fascinated me.

[@KellBear-zu6lw]

I love flying, (except take-off), but for people who are nervous about flying, these videos are perfect. You have a way of putting people at ease.

[@childofcascadia]

This one has some of the best "kelsey intently watching a video" faces ive seen in a while.

[@Jablicek]

Some great faces this week, definitely! I think we all felt Marcie's pain though.

[@ally679]

My favourite part of these videos.

[@The_Original_forresttrump]

No more goofy faces, are you children?

[@Nickelbippy]

Yup 👈

[@mickeyfilmer5551]

.I remember a landing at Luqa Malta (In the late 90's)in a really strong crosswind, the aircraft was an old... and I mean OLD 737, during the flight I told the flight attendant about my concerns about the fluid leaking from the starboard engine, and the vibration. As we came into land, the engine gave a loud "Phut", and a piece of the cowling deformed. we went into Luqa with a very strong crosswind and most of the passengers were alraedy screaming- bizarrely, I was fscinated and was watching the aircraft pitch from port to starboard in the strong winds, as we touched down and the reverse cowlings engaged, the whole aircraft shook so violently that the overhead lockers dumped all their hand baggages onto us all. I was absolututely thrilled by the experience- unfortunately most of the passengers were upset and some went to hospital. As an engineer reckon I am rather in a small category of people who like to experience stuff like this so as to analyse the causes.- But there again I am called a nerd and weirdo very often, but at 62 years of age I couldn't give a toss. Just bring on more stuff to analyse!

[@Hunne2303]

Dont worry...I went to china once and on the way back (longest sunset ever) there where some turbulences...naturally I got up and as the plane fell a bit, I jumped...0 G ;) until the stewardess urge me to get seated...

[@karenmessinger9609]

I am afraid of flying so watching your videos really helps me to understand that flying is a lot safer than I've always thought it was. Thank you!! My daughter is a stewardess & I've always worried a lot for her but now I can quit worrying so much.

[@TomOConnor-BlobOpera]

"Ate a bird" really made me laugh.

[@yourhandlehere1]

" some engines can eat birds with no problem, depends on the bird"

[@MatrixSS]

It's so much more exciting when a single prop or dual prop food processes a bird, that's a scary one

[@roichir7699]

@@yourhandlehere1 Yeah. A few weeks ago we changed an engine due to deterioration of performance. First inspection showed damages in the turbine section, which could explain that. At the shop visit the inspected the compressor section an found birdstrike damage. Dented and ripped off compressor blades and some bones of the bird wedged between the stator vanes. Noone ever noticed that. So yeah, depends.

[@The_Original_forresttrump]

It’s not the bird it’s coleslaw that does the damage.

[@margotrosendorn6371]

I always get a little chuckle when they talk about a bird being "ingested"...

[@daveluttinen2547]

Prop strike = ouch. I was the last aircraft to land at an airshow and there were probably 90,000 people along the flight line. I was in a Cessna 206 with 6 passengers and I wanted to grease the landing, so I added just about 50 rpm. Wrong. The aircraft wanted to fly, I wanted it to land, I pushed the nose over. As soon as I touched I knew this was not good, so I chopped the power and held the nose a little higher. It wasn't a grease but it wasn't a disaster with such a huge audience. I am grateful for flight instructors having taken the time to explain cause and effect. I giggled to myself all the way to parking. Nobody on board had a clue what had occurred. That 777 appeared to be dealing with a bit of a crosswind, too. Question: How much does ground effect affect a big bird? He had an acre of flaps and slats all trying to slow the airplane down so if the nose is high I would think airspeed would bleed off quickly. At the angle of attack, how much was the airflow over the horizontal stabilizer disrupted by the wing? I wonder if that nose drop was a result of that. Just food for thought. Love the channel. Keep up the good work!

[@srcastic8764]

I wondered the same thing. It did look like it got caught in that cushion of air at the end there, aka ground effect.

[@RHajmand]

Kelsey, damn, you're informative. And empathetic and respectful and understanding. I haven't flown in 30 years -- watching your stuff makes me want to do it again.

[@ClearedAsFiled]

I know the feeling.....!!

[@Bunny99s]

07:33 Love the Sullenberger reference ^^. I already had that scenario in mind when you started "... if you hit birds on both engines ...".

[@2Timothy42]

The slight increase of altitude during flare was my flying achilles heal. Usually I am on speed, but pull back too aggressively (which the Cirrus is susceptible to). So now I seem to have the trend of landing flat. Finding the balance in there, for me, is the toughest part of flying.

[@daynegomez8334]

Flying a plane on speed isn't good idea

[@jonast7112]

I have absolutely the same problem. Or I land to flat, or I flare to early and then plane loses speed and smacks on the ground

[@johnmorris7815]

Too much speed dude, approach speed is just that, the speed on the approach, it should be washed off during the flair as the power is reduced without delay, then hold off don’t let the airplane land before you are ready.

[@akizeta]

@@jonast7112 Smack is even worse than speed for piloting.

[@jackraylongiii9663]

What helped me was to treat every landing as a soft field landing, mentally it just made everything smoother for me and just worked. I made sure once I made the runway I'd slowly take power out instead of cutting it too quickly, I would think smooth progressive flare and just let the energy bleed off with the nose slightly up. Maybe this will help you guys? Have fun flying!

[@nukenuked5749]

1am here in austraila and watching your new vid loving it keep the vids coming mate and thank you

[@gailpeterson3747]

I love these videos--thanks for putting the content out there!! I actually experienced this on a flight several years ago while a passenger on a MD-80. Shortly after takeoff we heard this terrible pounding noise coming from the #2 engine just like in this video then the engine went silent. The cabin shook like an unbalanced washer in the spin cycle and the plane yawed enough for me to think to myself "planes are not supposed to fly sideways". I assumed right away that the engine probably ate a bird. For some reason, the pilot began circling the airport and made three failed attempts to restart the engine before coming back in for a safe landing. The pounding sound and shaking were unsettling, but the thing that got me the most was the extreme yawl. Maybe they also caught some wind while this was going on...

[@kingfloridaman5274]

I felt the pilots soul leave his body when that prop broke

[@chromebook8753]

🤣

[@mrsem6670]

You can just see it in his eye

[@joelv4495]

Yep. Probably a $10k repair bill, because the engine has to be inspected for damage.

[@ivebeenmemed]

ikr, i feel so bad

[@ThomasMarrow]

One of the worst feelings I have ever felt. It feels weird reliving this experience allover again with everyone.

[@Sarcasticron]

Thanks for emphasising that mistakes are a part of learning! So many people give up too soon, because they think that making mistakes when they first try something means they'll never be any good. But if you keep working on it, you'll get better.

[@GhostSniper67]

I absolutely love your personality and sense of humor and how humble you are. You make me laugh so much, "The plane thinks, oh you wanna go fly again, ok" was funny...😂

[@gregwochlik9233]

Nice debrief. The first (South African-registered taildragger) was close to home. I trained (and abandoned at 80 hrs) at Rand Airport. One day, I saw a very curious prop-strike incident. The accident aircraft took off with the towing bar attached to the nose wheel. Apparently they couldn't retract their gear and decided to land. Upon landing, the towing bar bounced into the spinning prop. I was naughty and took a photo of the damage.

[@jaxbutterfly9186]

You are such a perfect pilot and human being. Totally awesome 👍😎

[@nikkitronic80]

Kelsey, your viral debrief videos are my favorite. Keep 'em coming! ❤️✈️❤️✈️❤️✈️❤️✈️❤️

[@rustyww1]

Love your videos! I’m addicted to them. I’m not a pilot but my father was he owned two airplanes so I got to fly with him quite a bit. I’ve learned a lot from listening!

[@zidanegracias6245]

I just love watching Kelsey's videos😄😄

[@F1fan007]

Excellent and respectful commentary. I like your humble approach and you give each of the pilots that made a mistake a measure of grace. Your videos are very helpful!

[@mikeclark4272]

I was on a TWA flight back in 1992 on a MD80 sitting at the window seat towards the back of the plane taking off from St Lewis at night and our left engine had a compression Failure and it looked like the engine was on fire but it is common in this situation. We turned around and landed safely with only the Right engine working but planes are made to fly on 1 engine if necessary.

[@scottgamedev8542]

Keep up the great work Kelsey! 👍👍👍👍

[@johnanderson02]

Just did my Instrument Solo!!! Love flying...although my airspace around KSDF is a little busy!!! I fly out of KLOU!

[@virtualaviator21156]

this comin up thing makes me WILD with excitement, I am so happy that you make videos like thisss

[@CS-rk9bf]

*Video Suggestion* Can you make a video about the aviation scenes in the movie Clif Hanger?

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[@pinnedlamontatlarge3901]

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[@nickduplooy8661]

Brillant videos. As one that had a prop strike a day after my solo I feel that your debrief on the Macie video was very informative as well as respectful to the individual that had that strike and with a bit of luck she has continued her training.

[@jawed]

I'm not a pilot, but I watch Kelsey talk about being one on KZbin

[@PIatido]

lol

[@bigangeCOYS]

Yo the guy with the first video on KZbin. Sup

[@mbmarcell1]

Get your pilot license 🤑

[@khaisproductions]

Wassup

[@khaisproductions]

You made the first video noice

[@dirkeickholt4684]

Hey Kelsey, my depest respect for debriefing more than 3 minutes on the propeller crash and not beeing boring at all! Cheers and keep up the great work. I'd wish I'd had the luck to fly with you someday! See ya!

[@Admiral45-10]

11:40 when I was training, my instructors told me, that ideal situation for Cessna 152 touchdown is when I don't see runway anymore. I have to gently stall the airplane and calmly let it down with nose up, and then keep it in the air as long as possible to not make it hit the ground hard.

[@David_P132]

It was many years ago but I remember the only landing that my tough instructor actually praised me for was the only one I ever made where I heard the stall warning horn (C150).

[@Admiral45-10]

@@David_P132 I was taught, that sound of stall horn before touchdown is a good sign - it means plane will land on back wheels.

[@richardmccarthy9580]

Hi Kelsey. Really enjoy your videos. Just one bit of feedback re. Nervous flyers like myself out there. A reason why he might “Yelp” on take off isn’t out of fear but almost relief. I’ve often found the greatest fear is not necessarily the flight but the increasing tension in the weeks preceding the flight. On one of my last flights it was one of the smoothest ever with fantastic views of the snow capped Lake District but I was still very nervous on take off primarily because I had so much pent up anxiety. I often find co-passengers surprised I can be so nervous at take off and yet comparatively comfortable when landing even in tricky conditions…… partly because we are going in the right direction ie down ! Would be great to have you as a passenger next to me although suspect might not be recriprocated 😄!

[@lazr1985]

"As someone who sits next to people who are scared a lot when they are flying"... I think you need to get yourself better copilots or fly planes that don't make copilots scared 🙂

[@jillnye8371]

He means in the cabin when he deadhead haha

[@vbscript2]

Even worse, Kelsey is an FO, so this interpretation would mean that the Captain is scared while flying. - LOL

[@xristinas2767]

🤣

[@memissobsession]

Lol

[@lisanadinebaker5179]

It has been said before but it is worth repeating. These videos really are a "two for one" deal. First viewing for the aviation part; second viewing for Kelsey's reaction.

[@mtggamer2482]

I love your vids

[@douglasmooney3726]

Kelsey thanks for all your videos. Most tail draggers have toe brakes. My Dads Piper Vagabond had them and you needed to have you seat belt tight or when you braked you would slide forward and apply more brake and could cause the prop strike. I looks like he is applying brakes and as he tips up he ends up applying more brake because he is sliding forward. He could of had lock brakes but maybe not.

[@Anonymous-pm7jf]

I look forward to your videos every week.

[@JamesBrown-hv1xu]

You are very well spoken on all your videos, I enjoy them all. When you look at the nose while landing, it the same thing when landing while skydiving, when your about 20 to 30 feet off the ground you focus on the horizon and not down at the ground. It's seems like your falling at 50 to 100 miles an hour ! Please stay safe my friend!

[@Soundbrigade]

“Ate a bird” ...learning new aviation expressions 👍.

[@Tackleberry666]

I am an A320 pilot with some experience. However, I still find this channel insightful and entertaining to watch. Keep up the good work

[@erictaylor5462]

15:00 What is happening here is called ground effect. The wings work by pushing air down. If you are within 1.5 wing spans of the ground that down moving air hits the ground which pushes back in the aircraft effectively giving you more lift. If you are going to fast this extra lift can arrest your decent completely causing you to "float." You can see this sometimes if a soaring bird is over water. The bird flies very close to the water, because it can maintain flight with less effort.

[@TheRepublicOfJohn]

Ekranoplan

[@FlyingLessons]

Ground effect is not air pushing back on the plane creating lift. It’s the interference of the ground with the air that normally flows around the wing and creates a downwash that destroys lift. High pressure air flows around the wing and creates a downwash on the upper surface of the wing, creating induced drag and destroying lift. When the plane is close to the ground the air cannot flow around the wing, so the downwash is reduced, and lift and drag are increased.

[@Markle2k]

@@FlyingLessons First is lowered induced drag by the modified, squished-out-to-the-side vortices making the wing think it is longer that it is. But there is also an air cushion effect that is more noticeable with a wing shaped like a hershey bar than a ruler. The air cushion effect is also stronger the lower the angle of attack is, so carrying too much speed results in floating down the runway. As I understand it, pilots of airliners, which have higher wing loadings than GA aircraft, try to fly right through the ground effect straight onto the runway with minimal flare. This is the reason for the classic Ryanair "firm landing". Pelicans and ekranoplans typically have inverted the classic endplate-style winglet to increase the cushion effect. This keeps the high pressure under the airfoil instead of just hindering it from leaking over the wingtip. This, as opposed to the raked and split winglets that are designed to extract energy from the vortex to create thrust at cruise.

[@erictaylor5462]

@@FlyingLessons Actually this idea of lift is incomplete. Fairly recently a new study discovered that most of the lift comes from air being pushed down. Downwash doesn't destroy lift. It is basic Newtonian physics. "Equal and opposite reaction" Push down one pound of air, you get one pound of lift. Yes, this push down of the air creates drag, the energy to push the air down needs to come from somewhere, in the case of airplanes that energy comes from the kinetic energy of the aircraft. This in turn slows the plane down, or it would if the plane had no way to get that kinetic energy back. This is what the engine does. Should the engine fail the airplane needs to find a new source. Instead of the engine it starts using the potential energy contained in the plane's altitude. This is why planes slow down in a turn. More lift must be generated to hold the plane up and pull it through the turn as opposed to straight and level when the lift is only holding the plane up. The aircraft needs to maintain a minimum speed or it will stall.

[@soupwifey]

I love the way you explain everything so simply that I feel like I could fly a Cesna. With training of course. Lots of it. I still can't parallel park my own car. I can a big truck and even a commercial Box truck but not any kind of small vehicle. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ThomasMarrow]

That guy at beginning looks very familiar…

[@PCLHH]

The Bushbaby/Explorer community is small, so yah..

[@scriptkiddie4240]

Is it you?

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

I don’t know how much it costs to destroy a propeller. but I imagine it’s a similar amount of one of my work vans being totaled by an employee

[@77Avadon77]

Lolol it is him. 😂😂

[@dalehansen3610]

Hi Kelsey - always enjoy your videos. On Marcie's bounced landings, at the point where you freeze her landing you will see the elevator in nearly if not fully up position. I always wondered why Cherokee pilots frequently have 3 point landings. I found out when I first flew one myself - limited elevator control. This is the Fred Weick design intended to eliminate stalls. In my first Cherokee landing, I was pulling back, pulling back and then the yoke hit the stop! Down comes the nose wheel! Only recovery from this is add power. Thanks again.

[@kenbrown2808]

it kind of felt to me like the pilot was saying his brakes malfunctioned, which would have added one more level of unexpectedness to delay his reaction. this is total speculation, but is there a chance he was trying for a short takeoff? if so, having the brakes fail to release would give a really short window of opportunity to correct.

[@Streaky100001]

My own theory is that he wasn't going for a short takeoff, so much as he was doing a soft field. From what I've seen of bush flying work it's pretty common to deliberately bring the tail up as soon as you add power, the idea being you get the relatively delicate tail wheel out of the dirt and protected from any rocks, the tail wheels tend to be much worse in terms of ability to just bounce over rocks and what not than those big tundra's he's got on the mains. The way they typically do this I believe is to partially hold the brakes and push the stick hard forward as they power up, then control the nose angle by adjusting the stick and brake pressure to keep the tail wheel up and clear of anything on the ground, while not nosing over. At the start of that video it looks to me like he does go full forward stick, which would seem consistent with him trying to get the tail up, and then brings it back to either neutral, or possibly partially aft (hard to say) as the tail comes up. This would probably reduce reaction time even further, since he's expecting the tail to come most of the way up. It's probably only when he tried to release some pressure on the brakes to prevent the tail coming any further up that he realized something was going wrong.

[@jennydavis4198]

@@Streaky100001 Respectfully i disagree, he is already moving with the tail on the ground and his faces shows he is fine, he starts to panic when the tail comes up which he obviously isn't expecting that's when it goes wrong which is consistent with his assertation the brakes locked.

[@Streaky100001]

@@jennydavis4198 I take your point, likewise respectfully I would have to disagree. Not that what you're saying isn't a possible explanation, it most certainly is, but look at his outboard arm right as the aircraft moves the first few inches, he pushes it hard forward. I don't see why he would put in hard forward stick unless he was deliberately trying to bring the tail up, and it is a very deliberate push, not like he's just forgotten to hold back stick in. I suspect based on this it's more likely he's looking concerned and suspecting brake lock due to the rate the tail is coming up rather than the fact it is coming up. i.e. he's deliberately trying to get the tail up for the reasons I described in my previous comment, but as the tail lifts it does so faster than he's used to, which would certainly have got his attention. Also, if you watch it in half or 0.25 speed, you'll see that as the tail comes up to a roughly neutral attitude he applies aft stick, presumably to overcome the rotational momentum in the pitch axis, but then rather than holding back stick to put the tail down again he quite rapidly moves the stick forward, I can't tell exactly from the video obviously, but my best guess is he's moved it to a roughly neutral position here. My point being this looks very much to me like he's trying to stabilize the aircraft in a neutral attitude, rather than to put the tail back down again, as I would expect to see if the tail was never meant to come up to begin with. You have to watch this on slow speed really to spot it, he very rapidly moves to what I assume to be full aft stick, presumably a result of him realizing that something really bad is about to happen. What I'm thinking is initially his attention was grabbed by the pitch rate of the tail coming up being higher than expected, but didn't really know why, he tries to save it and continue, but then as he tried to stabilize into neutral attitude I guess it become apparent something was very wrong with the aircraft. I think either of the scenarios would be equally consistent with having the brakes lock up in fairness, and I think there's no real way to be positive what happened from the video clip we can see, but the observed stick movements would certainly seem to be an anomaly if we assume he didn't want the tail to come up at all. I would also like to say, I think to say that he "panicked" when the tail came up is unfair. Given he certainly looks concerned, but that's not the same thing as panic. He clearly still has full control of his actions, we see him taking decisive action to try and correct what's happening in the form a applying full aft stick when it becomes clear he's going to nose over. I'm not seeing anything in his actions consistent with panic.

[@personthing88]

Danm this is the first time I have ever come across a comment section that people are respectfully disagreeing

[@childofcascadia]

@person thing You beat me to it, I was gonna say it too. It was interesting to read both commenter's assertions and points, all delivered like normal conversation without EMPHASIS caps and calling each other names. Like I love the channel VASaviation, but goddamn that comment section is pretty toxic. I generally dont even bother flipping thru it. Kelseys comment section is pretty chill though. I actually like to read them, theres a lot of good aviation info and minimal toxicity

[@cliffsta87337]

Great video this week. Thanks for sharing.

[@lukethellama5591]

Hey kelsey, can you do a Hollywood VS Reality on 2012 with the small twin prop plane scene and the antonov 225? It would be great to see what you think of it :)

[@grumbazor]

13:38 Schiphol is really great for birdwatching. i love that place

[@SuperMarioQueens]

Every Sunday 10am, better then Netflix

[@OpenCarryUSMC]

After flying out of my backyard dirt strip, one way in/out and rising terrain of 40’ difference between ends. After flying out of there quite a bit and really comfortable with it, I found myself porpoising in a couple of asphalt runways before figuring out it was the sight picture difference between my dirt runway with rising terrain (and a hill at the end) and that nice flat asphalt runway. It’s now in my checklist: IF ASPHALT - NOSE UP

[@jamesdenofantiquity]

Kelsey, I was flying yesterday from Miami to Raleigh and every so often on the flight the pilots would rev up the engines and then back them off. I have experienced this before and always wondered why they are doing this? It makes me a little uncomfortable because when I hear both engines wind down I begin to wonder if the engines are okay or just broke.

[@electricheartpony]

If it's during cruise, I wouldn't say the pilots are doing that. I would say the auto thrust and auto pilot is doing that.

[@RoadhouseDeluxe]

its probably set on auto throttle for a certain speed. Wind gusts on the aircraft can cause the engines to spool up to get back to the a/c's assigned speed

[@DocuzanQuitomos]

Think of it this way: when you drive a car, the engine needs to be set for the demands of the situation (sometimes you need it to work faster, some times you don't need the engine to go as fast). Planes' engines work under the same idea: depending on the weather conditions you need more or less power in the engine to make the plane to do the same thing: let's say you want to keep a specific altitude and suddenly you find tail winds (that reduce lift), you will need to add power to the engines to keep the altitude; some minutes later you meet frontal winds (that add lift), your engines now don't need to use that much power to keep the same altitude (if you let them running at the original power, then the plane will want to climb and would tend to "run" faster), so you reduce power to keep the plane in the altitude desired (and also the speed asigned, while people would love that airplanes ran from point A to point B in record time, keep in mind you also need to keep some distance between planes for safety, just like in a regular highway). This has a side effect that concerns airlines: it messes a bit with fuel costs. While you won't run out of fuel all of a sudden, recognizing when to add power and when to reduce power in normal flight conditions has an impact on how often and how much you have to refuel the airplane for the next flight (imagine you didn't notice weather conditions just relaxed and you made your engines work extra hard for a couple of hourse... you have just wasted some fuel you, in theory, could have saved). That's where the auto throttle enters the picture: the computer calculations identify quicker than the human senses when the engines need more power and when they don't need to work that hard, and this constant dance helps the plane to use lots of fuel only when it's needed, reducing how often the plane needs to take more fuel. Next time you wonder if the engine broke when the sound pitches down, keep in mind a couple of things: if the engine really broke down the sound would keep on going down (most emergencies involving engines require the engine to be shut down) and pilots would need you to fasten your seatbelt (if you don't have them) for whatever might be happening next (planes can fly with one engine, but that doesn't mean they can fly at the same speed and altitude, that's why they divert or return to the nearest airport).

[@yashuady7803]

You are my favorite pilot to watch on KZbin. Keep up the good work.

[@matthewslauenwhite7277]

Did you ever get your float endorsement? I love flying off the water

[@deadgamer21]

Same, love a good floater

[@76Draeger]

I earned my taildragger endorsement in a Citabria and boy is it a completely new flying experience all around and the trail lift was always my biggest fear. I recommend getting the endorsement just because I think it highly improves your piloting skills.

[@ssj3gohan456]

When you're explaining something, you subtly shake your head left and right. My baby interprets that as shaking 'no' and starts shaking back at the screen :D

[@moodiblues2]

Hey Kelsey, I initially learned to fly and soloed in a tail-dragger, a Piper J3 Cub. I hated it. I found it difficult to land smoothly and was constantly amusing all who were at the airport with my bouncing down the runway and making ground loops. I flew out of College Park Maryland airport the oldest active airport in the world (they claim ) an airport that had a very short runway with power lines at one end and a forest at the other end. Having no flaps, I had to learn to side slip; always fun. When I moved to Cessnas I found out how easy it was to fly and land. They say if you learn on tail-draggers you learn to fly better. I don’t know about that, but it was sure fun bouncing down the runway.

[@roichir7699]

Hey Kelsey, you may want to redo the compressor stall animation. You highlighted the turbine section of this engine. Easy to spot, because the blades are fewer and much more curved. The airflow is from left to right in this picture.

[@devial9879]

Nicely spotted

[@truthteller1246]

Another top video kelsey

[@AV8R_Surge]

@5:23 in the recording someone said "pajaro" which means bird. So you may be right on it being a bird strike, although not captured in the video.

[@flyifri]

Ground effect is real and ever present through out the wing span from the ground up. Thanks for the update 74. Thumbs Up.!

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[@fuffoon]

That was a very dubstep compressor stall.

[@sigmasquadleader]

The drop is still anticipated in both situations!

[@eisgeistschiller5244]

I have watched it seems like 100 of Kelsey's vids and I can't get over how calm he is! Bet he is a fantastic dad.

[@The_Dudester]

Re: Prop strike landing. One of the first scenes in the movie Battle of Britain, the pilot is bouncing as he's coming in for a landing. The pilots watching are giggling and saying "Bumpsy daisy!!" (that pilot only had 5 hours of flight time). His squadron leader straps on his flight gear and tell the rookie pilot that he's going back up immediately (the squadron leader will give him a class). SPOILER ALERT: At the end of the movie the rookie pilot is now the squadron leader and senior pilot.

[@veramae4098]

Great movie, available free on KZbin!!!

[@paulslevinsky580]

I think that was 5 hours on type. Probably had another 10 or 15 in a biplane.

[@paulslevinsky580]

I've read tons of books about the BoB. Both pilot inexperience and fatigue were severe challenges for their ability to wage war. Strangely, after studies were made, it was found that fatigue had zero-impact on survivability. If they could get the Merlin started, then adrenalin took over. Adrenalin is a helluva drug. Sadly, inexperience couldn't be compensated. life expectancy during the first three missions for any new pilots was abysmal.

[@WhiskyCanuck]

@74Gear Speaking of noeswheel-first landings: every video I've seen of the NASA Super Guppy has shown it touching down nosewheel-first. The pilots are clearly doing it on purpose. In a future video could you exlain why? It is a very unconventionally shaped aircraft - so what about that configuration or it's payloads would make that desirable?

[@scheckenhere7417]

If I remember correctly, the 777 Kuwait landing was at Amsterdam with gusty crosswinds. Landing on 18R within the touchdown zone so the runway was definitly long enough. Reason for this manouver was probably a windsheer.

[@klamser]

Hi Kelsey, the ground effect is the point that becomes more important the stronger the front wind is. Suddenly there is an extra lift on landing as the airplane nears the ground. Low wing or medium wing aircraft have the highest ground effect. But even high wingers like the Cessnas can get a sudden ground effect in a strong front wind.

[@overland-workshop]

Good one. Your videos are like a tour of the world's most boring hotel rooms. I bet when you arrive, you check out where the window is, and set up your camera. I'm a taildragger flier. Ouch. He did keep his cool - only a single cuss.

[@johng9399]

Unusual for a Saffer!😀

[@srcastic8764]

Like Kelsey said, at that point what was done was done. There was nothing to be done about the nose over at that point so why get all upset about it. Just reset the plane and go again, making changes to avoid a repeat. Of course, I probably wouldn’t have been that calm. I probably would’ve spent a while cussing and telling myself how stupid I was and then staring at the prop a while wondering if I had bent it or knocked it out of balance or something. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂

[@PilatusTurbo]

@@srcastic8764 Of course, getting all pissed won't help. However, the amount of money required to repair that... That engine will now require a MOH, and probably many parts. I was involved with my father's planes, and props are stupid expensive, and god help him if it was an adjustable prop. Probably was. You ain't just resetting and going again. It'll be weeks or months, and thousands upon thousands of dollars to get that plane airborne, again.

[@coopz6752]

@@johng9399 agree! Unless it starts with "hou my dop, check hiedie move..."

[@overland-workshop]

​@@coopz6752 So you need to make yourself feel better by attacking other people with a keyboard? You are so brave! BTW. A taildragger isn't a toy plane. It's a real plane with the wheel at the back. As if you care.

[@zacharyvickers4184]

10:55 I was told if you hit nose first to not ever go around, because at that point there are too many unknowns in the struck prop to be 100% sure there was no major damage to it

[@alekspeleckas]

Hi Kelsey, awesome video! on to the next ;)

[@afmdq]

I just discovered this channel, very entertaining, Keep up the good work 👍🏻

[@kenbrown2808]

on kuwait's landing, I was wondering if the pilot flying had little experience with foggy landings, and when he got close enough to see the runway, didn't see the sight picture he was expecting and it threw him off a bit.

[@pacificule]

Kelsey looking over the nose: Aviate, Navigate, Communicate, SPECULATE. Guess how far over the ground the nose is when you're on the ground my guy haha! Much love Kels. Thanks for the great vids ~

[@maevephipson2803]

Kelsey is the master of the understatement. "That's not good" re the prop strike by Marcie 😅

[@grayrabbit2211]

Only $40,000 of not good. Nothing money can't fix.

[@veenarasika1778]

Enjoyed seeing a viral debrief video from you Kelsey, after quite a while. I enjoy that series the most, along with AirtrafficControl vs pilots and Hollywood vs Reality. I learn something along with the entertainment. Win Win!

[@jerrynewberry2823]

When you drive a car and you look too short, you're all over the road. Look 100 yards away, and you'll stay in the center of your lane, thus end of the runway.

[@jmalmsten]

Yup. As I was told in driving school "Blicken Styr Bilen". Which roughly translates to "The car goes to where you're looking". And the lesson was to learn to look as far ahead as possible during driving and the driving automagically becomes much more stable for everyone aboard.

[@Markle2k]

@@jmalmsten And that's the same advice given to motorcyclists. Look at where you want to go (the inside of the curve), not at what you want to avoid (the guardrail).

[@wilycat5290]

Another informative video analysis. Thanks Kelsey 😊 👍

[@TheGibusDemo]

Ah yes, the natural predator of birds, Turbofan engines

[@vbscript2]

Yeah, they get used to eating small birds, but then sometimes they try a larger one and get indigestion and experience combustion reflux.

[@Tanya_Maria]

About Marcie: It's propably that if you don't have the experience, you might FEEL that your seat is tilted so much that your nose has to be up, in your mind. I'm not an aviaton expert, but I know that's a huge factor in driving. You can feel if your car is tilted even the slightest. Then you check ex. tire pressure. Warning lights only tell about engine failure and stuff. So I guess that's what a slight similarity in small planes and cars.

[@jeromethiel4323]

I had a moment like this in an old mustang once. Driving along, everything is fine. 45 MPH limit, and i am going to limit. Turn coming up, it's a windy, narrow, two lane road in a residential neighborhood. Just before i enter the turn, the engine just dies. No warning, just nothing. Now, this was a 73 mustang, so it's heavy. Also has power steering and brakes. Meaning that if i had enough arm strength i might have made the turn, and also that my braking power was bupkis. But i figured that stopping was the better option, since the brakes work better without power assist than the steering does. So for a few seconds the only parts of me touching the car were my hands and feet. I was literally pulling back with both arms on the steering wheel, and pushing as hard as i could with both legs on the brakes. Managed to stop about 2' from a tree, after leaving the road. Funny thing is, the engine started on the first try, and i just went about my day. Never did figure out why the engine died.

[@johng9399]

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[@samiam619]

@@johng9399 First On Race Day… Also, the engine restarted unlike a Chevy!

[@NiHaoMike64]

@@samiam619 Wasn't Chrysler the one infamous for engine failures - Chris Hendler Recommends You Start Learning Engine Repair.

[@kyleranderson5557]

My friend and I took up plane watching and now it’s one of my favorite past times. I can’t tell you a single model of plan but I like them going over my head haha

[@brollout7406]

One thing is bugging me when looking to ALL aviation situations, especially for big planes. Why there are no cameras all around the plane and a display in the cockpit? You could see bird strikes. gear issues, debug engine failures easier, visually check plane configuration during take off and landing .. and these are only from the top of my head. I'm sure that you could describe other cases in which these could be extremely useful!

[@DocuzanQuitomos]

Some new models of airplanes have some cameras installed to see sections of the plane not visible from the cockpit, for different reasons. But cameras help just to a point: in an emergency you would need to know where to look at (in case you want to make the procedure of going through every image of the CCTV), not to mention that if there is damage to the systems of the airplane, you will most likely lose a couple of cameras in the same section going back to square one: being unable to "see" the problem and just knowing it's somwhere out there (not to mention that some failures can't be seen... how do you see a short circuit, for example). So far, checklists in air emergencies work because you can diagnose issues only with the instrument readings and warnings, you don't need to see where is the problem (you don't need to see there is a hole in the plane if your pressure alarm is on... you already know you have a leak or a hole somewhere, for example). Yeah, many times emergency procedures "in the dark" don't end very well, having the capacity to watch them is not very helpful (I have a warning that oen engine is failing... let's go and find the images of the engine!).

[@kateelderson]

Hey Kelsey! Driving like a little granma! Love it.

[@RobDucharme]

Next time I have chicken I'm going to pretend I'm a jet engine, and then announce that I "ate a bird." lol

[@Gebenki]

Compressor stalls are more common on takeoff because of high engine rpm, low airspeed and high angle of attack. The air sometimes just can't get through the inlet fast enough to satisfy the hungry blades.

[@ondrejsedlak4935]

All of these incidents could have been avoided if the pilots listened to all that invaluable tiktok advice.

[@jahbern]

Exactly. Because as we all know, airlines prefer we die so that we can’t sue them. I assume that goes for pilots, as well 😂

[@Rogge73]

You are great to listen to! Thanks man!

[@kenbrown2808]

hungry plane: maybe the person who screamed saw the triggering incident happen, and was reacting to that, rather than the takeoff.

[@jamietaylor5570]

Maybe they're fine with flying but terrified of birds.

[@Torbjorn.Lindgren]

No, the timing just doesn't work for that, there's ~8 seconds from the END of the scream and the first compressor stall, never mind the beginning. Basically for this to be related the first booming would need to happen before the end of the scream, not long after.

[@maevephipson2803]

I agree. As a woman and animal lover, if I was seated where I could see a bird heading for the engine I would have gasped audibly, , say 'oh No!' and put my hands over my eyes.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@Torbjorn.Lindgren so what you're saying is that every birdstrike causes instantaneous compressor stall, and it is impossible for there to be any lag between a person seeing a bird too close to the airplane and the onset of compressor stall.

[@hadrast]

@@kenbrown2808 The in-flight closing rate between a plane that large and a bird is pretty much guaranteed to be above 100kts, so for passengers who don't have a view out the front window, yes.

[@rajj8074]

love your vis!