Taur Review - RNG causes Rant!

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Summary: It's a missed opportunity this, sure it's playable and at times great fun but for £20 that is just not good enough. If they fix some of the following issues then yes it would be worth buying and I would even re-review it as I did enjoy it at times. RNG removal from main weapons, have incremental + stats like most games do. Grinding for RNG crystals to spend on a RNG forge is a joke! Reload times are way too long, it does not engage the player and kind of makes many of your turrets a waste of time. Put the damn towers back where they were after you die, it has a "R" key to replace towers but it does nothing after you die. Add more maps, having the same recycled 4 or 5 maps over and over is very boring. Endless mode is a must for these type of games. Death spiral is annoying, you should be rewarded something when you lose. I personally think 4 crystals would be enough, six just gives RNG more scope to shaft you and it does, a lot. Nice idea, poor execution.

[@Romanian901]

you should try out SYNTHETIK for a roguelike that does it good

[@bahamut256]

Finally, a game that sounds like something Mac would utter during a review. Have we gone full meta?

[@GerarddeBaar]

They fixed it bit more in favor for the player, check their updates in the news on Steam!

[@WorthABuyreviews]

Guys Wolcen is coming, Devs refused to give me a key (must be bad) so am buying it at the weekend, review next week

[@zzkzz7727]

It is very boring. With bad, cringe voice acting. The upgrade wheel has super boring, bland upgrades.

[@nikosxi]

@@zzkzz7727 That is because it's there to compliment the build that you will decide to use. Game isn't boring at all. It's pretty good and has some difficult battles at certain points. Maybe you're too addicted to diablo or who knows what. Other than the problem with the online mode, which I think is now fixed, the game is good. The only thing that I hate is that you have to click on every enemy. It's not like diablo where you keep your mouse pressed and your character will hit whatever was underneath your cursor.

[@eddiestevenson2189]

Worth A Buy 😂😇

[@eddiestevenson2189]

Worth A Buy good

[@Juggernautdemon]

Worth A Buy because it honestly isn’t finished yet, despite them releasing it. Lots of bugs

[@JerkyJones100]

Ohh shitttt. Mack went off on this one. Hahah what a great review. They even gifted him the key. Hey this is why I love ya Mack. Straight up reviews. No bullshit. Too bad cuz the game looks cool. Hopefully devs are watching.

[@gamerdweebentertainment1616]

If they gave a key... then they better be... same time... who thought RNG is good idea, who!?!?! had the big brain idea...

[@mathiacus]

If they fix rng. I'm totally buying this.

[@gamerdweebentertainment1616]

@@mathiacus They need to fix AI a bit too... perhaps... I don't remember tower defence games a lot. AI needed to basic, but good enough... like the reload thing? Why does it even exist there... if it should be OP, then make it OP... :)

[@lonewolfe3919]

He makes me die laughing sometimes😂😂

[@brokengames9020]

How can people stay sane when they deal with Rigged Number Generator?

[@Tipamisto]

Devs gave you a key, you "taur" them a new one! Gotta love Mack!

[@PHeMoX]

Wow, that's some poor game design indeed. Using an RNG wheel for how well a weapon upgrade turns out. That's some legit mobile game nonsense.

[@nicholasmoore8043]

I thought it was common knowledge that willful progression was the way to keep players interested. You can have things be a bit more expensive in terms of resources as long as the player knows how to get that resource and once they have enough they 100% get the reward they(we) had in mind.

[@Cenot4ph]

exactly why i hate mobile games, all there to get you to pay for progression.

[@MooKyTig]

This is exactly what I thought... except usually you do that to force pay to win/play microtransactions... evil and manipulative, sure, but at least logical. What's the point here? Maybe they like Mack's bell ringing?

[@danceswithsheep3058]

Different style of game I know but I play Elite Dangerous and the original RNG on upgrades for weapons, shields, engines etc pushed me out of the game. They stopped the RNG and I went back and the bad times are behind me and have spent money on cosmetics, not something I would have done while frustrated by upgrade RNG. So there is no way I will touch any game that uses RNG beyond tiny adjustments for upgrading my attack/defence options.

[@Grey_Ape59]

They probably want to monetize the crystals

[@earlybird5267]

Gosh, Mack. I gotta say. When you lose yourself... your anger... your rage... it infuses us with joy.

[@Professor_Bugs]

Yes.... YESSSS!!! FEEL THE ANGER, COME TO THE DARK SIDE!

[@lonewolfe3919]

CozyBear “and with no rep, you wont have bank”

[@cybergun01]

YES! lol

[@teaguejelinek4038]

Haha idk about joy but it definitely gives me a boner.. which I guess is the same thing at the end of the day so im happy

[@igorthelight]

Info for developers of this game: * Multiply all reload times by 0.33 * Rework Reforge (MUCH less RNG please! NO negative effects after reforging!) * Tone down Bloom effect a little bit. It makes you game looking cheap. * Add 3+ new maps

[@igorthelight]

@Rand Name True. That's why I suggest to tone it down and not disable at all :-)

[@tomg2666]

Thanks for giving an honest review Mack and not brown nosing the developer for giving you a free key like other reviewers.

[@mrgreen497]

Dev: I'm gonna give this guy that's known for being brutally honest, critical and blunt as hell a free key to my game, hes gonna be forced to love it since it was free!!!!! :D Dev: *surprised pikachu face*

[@Green.n.Purple]

To be fair, some of the devs probably think they made a really good game, and from what I can remember most of them were right. They just included a handful of design decisions that killed the game like this dev did, or the game was early access and simply not 'worth a buy' just yet, etc.

[@Marqan]

Any dev who gives Mack their game to review instantly earns my respect, and at least I'll follow the game on Steam. Taur is still on my wishlist, cause those problems seem fixable.

[@braydencharles6188]

@@Marqan I saw the dev on steam responding to someone who left a review on steam and he said he was going to be updating the game throughout 2020 so hopefully he takes the feedback to heart and makes this a good game because goddamn it looks great.

[@sototalyatree]

A bit presumptuous thinking the dev gave him a key for a good review maybe they just wanted an honest review which in hindsight is the best thing a (real) developer can ask for.

[@TravellingForgottenPaths]

Dev gets kudos for giving a key to an honest reviewer well knowing it might be bad. Better than some of the big publishers that hide behind shenanigans.

[@bloodrunsclear]

I'm REALLY glad we've come from rolling dice on cardboard...to rolling digital dice! :D

[@ervinsapinis2379]

Hahaha absolutely lost it when Mac broke down when he said you can't pause it

[@boris8489]

I think we need to find Mack, A sponsor for all the bells he goes through while doing all these reviews...

[@nallekalle1]

With that he should also make a few bell reviews :D

[@CVilla49]

Damn, perfect timing on the review. I just added this to my wishlist because it looks cool.

[@CybreSmee]

Woah, nice save - I was just about to buy this when I saw your review pop up. Glad I waited.

[@EJGarza]

My stomach hurt after laughing too hard at your rant

[@Lyunpaw]

Thank you! I'm glad you're here to save us from this kind of S**t game. I don't like that we ask you to suffer, but it's a dirty job and someone's got to do it.

[@UCQ12]

Everytime you use the horn and my dogs ears go up, he comes running to me

[@igorthelight]

Headphones is the answer.

[@Pfeifenkraut]

The moment he used the horn you know that this'll be a good one.

[@MrSteve0311]

Good review as usual. I'd be interested to see a re-review of this since it's been a year and it looks like the devs addressed some of the issues (from the steam news updates).

[@tupera1]

MACK!...I love when you mumble your words when you forget something...hilarious!!!

[@michaelwesten4624]

you should give "synthetik" a smack around

[@marco293a4]

Hey hey people

[@sticks7857]

whats wrong with synthetik?

[@michaelwesten4624]

@@sticks7857 it's quite good

[@michaelwesten4624]

@@marco293a4 yes

[@Jim-vg3vb]

marco293a4 Seth here

[@YorkGod1]

I liked the 'RNG causes Rant' and then a gambling advert appears lol

[@DanielRojas-lr7vs]

HAHAHAHAAHA I LOVE THIS GUY... READY... AIM... FAIYAAAA!!!! Straight up reviews, HONEST, AFTER YEARS STILL ONE OF THE VERY BEST YOU TUBE REVIEWERS OUT THERE. NEVER CHANGE MACK! I LOVE YOU!

[@Romanian901]

there are few ways to improve the game: -have more mission options available -have a non linear unlock tree -scrap some of the damn useless resources or make a way to convert them into other ones

[@PIgboyWoods]

Genuinely - Mac,. At the exact moment you finished the sentence RANDOM. NUMBER. GENERATOR. An ad popped up for one of those online casinos complete with Mariachi music. Legit thought it was part of your review and didn`t notice for 20 seconds that it wasn`t :)

[@Gotenham]

Great honest review, thanks mak

[@fargo5125]

Try give "Space Haven" a review/look at. its a little kickstarter game. its in Alpha stage, and could really need some attention, and its Rimworld inspired. Company name is Bugbyte

[@iceman_69gaming13]

I will be waiting for your Review on Wolcen Before deciding. I find your channel refreshing, honest and funny obviously compared to so many sponsored channels. I am an old time gamer and thanks to you I learned the exact meaning of RNG today. I Heard it so many times on various communities channels while gaming but I refused to google it. I knew it is about random events but now I even know the exact meaning :)

[@teaguejelinek4038]

Thank God you uploaded this vid when you did. I was like 5 minutes from purchasing this game but is saw a notification for this video and said "know what? I will let someone else decide what I play" and I'm glad I did cause now I don't have to play this game ❤️ thanks mack 👍👊

[@clockworkonion954]

7:55 Does "[R] Rebuild all structures" not work? I'd understand if you looked over it, happens to me as well. Alternatively, I might be wrong in assuming that pressing [R] will rebuild whatever you had in the previous run. You've already got back the bank you need build the towers, so maybe [R] just gives you more heat - heat from the cops? But if you get caught, you will lose half of your bank and half of your rep, which isn't good... Either way, have you tried it? (and if you did: Did it rebuild or do something else?)

[@PhoAgne]

It will rebuild only if you have enough resources. So if you lost few towers and decided to reforge your weapon - you'll need to build manually. But yes, if you lost last game just hope in the build menu and hold R to rebuild everything.

[@SirPandaEsq]

I love your reviews. You were given a key but aren't afraid to call out what's wrong. And I'm glad you called it out! This looks like it could be just my kind of game IF the issues are fixed. And they all seem fixable too. I'll follow this game to see if they tweak it at all, I used to play those mouse click tower defense flash games for hours way back when

[@elementzeroable]

Great review Mac! I felt the exact same while playing this game, The visuals and sound were so good but after a while the problems appear.

[@MrRagemanPL]

This reforge mechanic reminds me of Metin 2 back when people were playing it. Every trip to upgrade your weapon through the Smith could end up loosing your best sword that you have been grinding for hours. Happened to me once. I've not played the game ever since.

[@brantsemallory726]

Remember this shit from Elite Dangerous... Didn't work there, won't work here. It's like ordering a Merc and getting a Ford.

[@BaronMcBoomBoom]

Well..... Guess thats the last time those Devs give WAB a key XD

[@FunkyBaconArts]

The RNG sure didn't work in their favor. :D

[@tails18boy]

What's the press R to rebuilt all for? Isn't that to build all the turrents from previously? Or is it only used after u placed the turrets and if they get destroyed then it's useful

[@PhoAgne]

It will rebuild only if you have enough resources. So if you lost few towers and decided to reforge your weapon - you'll need to build manually. But yes, if you lost last game just hope in the build menu and hold R to rebuild everything.

[@billb0313]

I'm confused. Is this game called "Taur" or "Toooooorrrrr?" Mack says, it's "Toooooorrrrr!"

[@FrzN]

Hey Mack, for strategy look into AI War II and get in touch with the dev! It's amazing and I think it deserves a good and honest review from an honest reviewer.

[@Dutchfalco]

Devs: "He's taur-ing our game apart, Lisa!"

[@anderslolle2147]

Mack didn’t pray to RNGesus.

[@xXE4GLEyEXx]

The upgrade smells like Elite Dangerous and its RNGneers

[@jex-the-notebook-guy1002]

I tried brainstorming a tower defense idea (because im a no life gamer that's also a gaming enthusiast with no self esteem to learn how to make things reality) I wanted a replayable TD that doesn't feel like one strategy fits all. so I looked to randomizing things and oh boy that would never work. What you see here was worse then what i thought. RNG rolls to get the upgrade you want? no i hate that so not that. But it'd be hard to ballance a game where every tower you get is random and every enemy is random. So i came up with 2 solutions: 1. The enemies are random but you get access to every tower. The problem with this is for me it'd be overwhelming and im a fan of progression. and this would still be a one strat works thing. If it was towers that were random it would still spell trouble. imagine getting a sniper and you face the grunts. no big deal. where's your aoe when there is a swarm of them? so onto #2 that is a good concept for dealing with rng [devs if you read comments make something with this but if i ever make anything i thought of it first :P 2. RNG starts you off with a random tower. Every tower in the game is good against an enemy group it's paird with. so for slow bursts of fodder enemies you could use a slow firing splash dmg weapon. for fast enemies you'd get a slowing weapon. it could even just be a modifer. maybe some enemies share things who knows. So that's that and to make progression fun all enemies and towers are ballanced so that you can have different tiers of each. that way you have a weapon ready to fight the enemy you encounterd it at the right level. but remember you won't see it again so be careful what you upgrade. end of rant and don't steal my idea if i end up making it.

[@stryfegamingonline7583]

Not sure when he tested the game but I just played last night and you get full resources for a mission win or lose. The should allow you to sell a structure and rebuild on the same match. Oh and the RNG really isnt that bad when it comes to gems. I didnt bother reforging much. Maybe that's why he lost. Spent everything on his main cannon too early.

[@michaelboys2602]

AAAAAWWWWWW MACK!!!! You’re rants are just legendary!!! Plus, ya know its serious when the clown horn comes out!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bojanatanaskovic2465]

In a lot of Slavic languages this is how you'd spell Tower. I think that's the idea behind the title.

[@mattydrake791]

yeah... i'm waiting for something new to play too, all i can hear in my head is 'HEROIN.... is it worth a buy?' lol

[@Cynndora]

That's some Korean MMO levels of RNG there.

[@alientech4001]

btw its not manual if you read it before in the top right idk if you already skip it but during in BUILD MODE if all of you structures was destroyed you can just press R Rebuild all Structures and it will automatically be place to what it was before lol and i already finish the game.

[@BugPowderDust]

Thanks Mack, was already thinking £20 seemed too much for this but it did look fun. If they improve it with patches, then maybe in the future it’s a purchase

[@caubert]

Nice to see devs had courage to give their gave to have a review by you.

[@UTTheLaw]

I miss miserable Mack! Thanks for coming back! You've been too much flowers and sunshine lately. Love your thumb down rants! It's where you truly shine! Love it! Great work and keep it up!

[@TheNagualZone]

I really think that there are very very few Devs who are: 1. Gamers themselves 2. Were ever gamers in their whole life 3. Will ever be gamers 4. Ever bother to play their own games 5. Have any idea whatsoever what gamers actually want 6. Have any idea what makes for great games

[@LordSnoodles]

I hope the developmer hears this and adjusts the game. They sound like great critiques.

[@Mereinid]

You tell em Mack! So, I am guessing you don't want this RNG sexy doll I bought for you, eh?

[@1castellp]

"I Taur it up" - Nancy Pelosi

[@squirrelnuts9000]

its probably pronounced taur like "tower", instead of 'tor'. good to hear Mac go apeshit on it. cheers.

[@AzariusR]

Me: Nice pot Where'd you get it from M8? But isn't this like illegal shit? Friend: I got it from *T A U R* Browser.

[@jaredprice5823]

This is why I love your reviews. You're honest.

[@BenJ2827]

This review is not only entertaining but more importantly highly accurate! This game could have been a classic but the developers made it shit! They need to update it ASAP and address everything in this review!

[@Krissosik]

So much laughter - best start of the weekend!

[@daweitao2668]

I love the visuals of this game, makes me want a similar looking RTS. Does sound too frustrating though, and too expensive.

[@brajuhani]

If they fix the rng i might give this a try

[@DruuzilTechGames]

Sounds pretty much like the upgrade system in BDO.

[@azalea_k]

Reviews are always at their most entertaining when there's reasons Mack taur them a new one.

[@DerFreiegedanke]

7:00 That's the reason you have 4 Main weapons. But Yes the RNG Wheel is bad. The Progress should be more linear and you can only roll + but its rng how much + you roll.

[@foxontherun4754]

This reminded me of the lifeless planet review. The review that made me sub to this channel😆

[@hashisgod]

I feel like RNG is a cheap cheap tacky way to give a game a feeling of unpredictability. Rather than put effort into clever design and intelligent options for a player, who can then make good or bad decisions themselves, they just lump everything on RNG. It's just lazy lazy game design and implementation! Mack, I come to no review site or channel other than yours, you're the only reviewer I trust. Thank you so much for refusing to sell out!

[@danielrobinson5384]

"upgrading" your primary weapon can make it worse?! Who TF thinks that could ever be a good idea? If they want RNG tiered upgrades they should ALL have a positive effect on something (accuracy, DPS, health etc) even if its disproportionate to one over the others (like +10 DPS but only +0.5% accuracy increase and visa versa) at lower tiers.

[@hellonearth6411]

Glad the air horn is back Mack. You know then it's rant time. 😁

[@ruffnarbobnar5960]

I was really really close to buying this so was my bro. Thanks for the review brother I'll hold off on this one

[@dukem991]

RNG Doll sounds great where can I pick that up

[@lewissmith7614]

U gotta love when a games shit just for mack to rage

[@upublic]

oh i get it, so it's basically Elite Dangerous at launch. that braben guy is a human disease too

[@Ilovepieandchips]

Hi there Mack, Can you please review Wolcen? Cheers mate.

[@tdub8719]

Taurment IIWAB. Sounds like with a little tweaking from the devs, this has potential. Cheers for the review Mack.

[@mikaelhauk]

It's weird that they don't give you an option to save your turret config... Like have 3 presets or something and when if you're using preset 2, then any changes you make gets saved to preset 2.

[@kwetsbarevrijheid2720]

I seriously advice watching it on 1.75x speed from about the 5th minute

[@WorthABuyreviews]

lmfao I just did

[@SecureGM]

I bet that RNG is extra punishing to facilitate the need of microtransactions shortly after launch.

[@CheeseAlderman]

Hi Mack great review, you've probably played it a few times but it would be great to see you review Company of Heroes (the original one) and maybe even number two if you can bear it (it's published by Saga..... Yuk)

[@5ema55unto]

if you're reading comments before watching... oh boy, you re going in for a ride!!!

[@Nguroa]

Will there ever come a day when RNG will be smart enough?

[@cosimomarino6885]

more frustration horn please ! great review as always

[@Irocrus]

It's not possible to shoot the crystals that are lying on map or something? They seem the same colour.

[@Barefoot_Joe]

Thank you for suffering through this pile for us Mac, how many bells did you break?

[@BongoManal]

The most entertaining game reviews around once again. Thanks!

[@ghostdog4330]

They had a similar RNG system with Elite Dangerous engineers. Hopefully they will make changes based upon your feedback. Otherwise the game looks alright.

[@lejoker1687]

6:42 rants till the end. Damn, the dev done fucked it up.

[@roslolian11]

Tbh it's ok to have an rng reforge button but the problem is the results can have your weapon actually downgrade (wtf) from what I've seen. The worst result should still be positive like 1 damage or something, it shouldnt be negative cuz that would mean the "upgrade" button can make your weapons worse and lose you the game.

[@Drain_Life_Archive]

Awful upgrade system designed to waste your time. No, I'm not going to pay to spin your wheel dozens of times hoping to get what I paid for. Defense Grid is from a decade ago. Know how it handled upgrades? They showed you how much you got on a bar if you paid for it, and after paying for it, it does exactly that much. No random BS.

[@1q2w3e4r5t6yx]

Mack....the Gordan Ramsey of gaming ;-)

[@selecks6462]

I saw the game the other day on Steam and it looks interesting but that rng lol, nope I don't like the look of that

[@rkristel82]

Good good, give in to your anger!

[@donnikubbitz2146]

You get quests to get crystals to get currency. Quests = crystals = currency......

[@danielpavlin]

California loves ya Mack!

[@godmodes]

Give us your thoughts on Dreams for the ps4!

[@user-bf7vu6od4k]

I know there's not enough hours in a day, but I'd love to hear you do a podcast.

[@chobbler]

Always the best honest reviews. Nice one Mac.

[@sentor98]

What is the deal with the bell dings?

[@2003phil]

on late the night mack :D? another great review bud thanks

[@LoneBerseker]

i agree, such a shame. THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS....