Who Was Sally Before She Died? - Nightmare Before Christmas Theory

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Isaac Carlson

Isaac Carlson

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@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 3 жыл бұрын
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@OzzyDrixClay
@OzzyDrixClay 3 жыл бұрын
How come the cemetery didn't zombies
@OzzyDrixClay
@OzzyDrixClay 3 жыл бұрын
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@Lady-Aloha
@Lady-Aloha 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween!
@eddog6666
@eddog6666 3 жыл бұрын
I think I know which two candidate could be Sally’s brain. A descendant meg from Hercules. Or KIM POSSIBLE. I know it seems like a stretch but Kim possible was tried to get going in the early 90s but Disney didn’t like the show. It went through two remastering before Disney accepted it. Believe or not it was original plan to air in 1994. But due to remastering it got pushed back until 2002. And if you take the Kim possible movie a sitch in time which makes time travel possible we find out that Kim possible doesn’t make it into the future. Aka she dies some time after the series. It is hinted that she dies in giving birth to twins. But what if she didn’t die their but taken through time? Her abilities would perhaps be considered magic? Aka a witch. I say Sally’s brain is Kim possible who died by being accused of being a witch, because she came through time.
@johnathanmaygarden8422
@johnathanmaygarden8422 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween to you
@kayleej1770
@kayleej1770 3 жыл бұрын
That last bit of explanation about her being a young woman seeing the beauty in the world and looking for love really fits the theory floating around that Sally is somehow also Emily from the Corpse Bride and that makes me happy
@labelledamedumanor4876
@labelledamedumanor4876 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe Sally & Emily were sisters or related by other means.
@AmandaDixson
@AmandaDixson 3 жыл бұрын
She's not.
@TimoteoDeBaum
@TimoteoDeBaum 3 жыл бұрын
Or they’re same generic character archetype created by the same man lol 😆
@thepretzel2
@thepretzel2 3 жыл бұрын
@@TimoteoDeBaum Not to mention they're made by 2 DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
@coradickt81
@coradickt81 3 жыл бұрын
They are two different people ;-;
@labelledamedumanor4876
@labelledamedumanor4876 3 жыл бұрын
I always suspected that Sally was more like a daughter than a potential wife where Dr. Finkelstein was concerned. Regarding Sally herself, the scene where she walks through the snow suggests that was the time period she originally died (a.k.a. in winter), any possible cause of death would be linked to freezing weather.
@nixiebirtel2970
@nixiebirtel2970 3 жыл бұрын
Could be why her skin is blue
@blankspace9793
@blankspace9793 3 жыл бұрын
What's interesting about Jack and Sally is that they seem to be the only people in Halloween town who want change. Everyone else seems pretty content with their lives and roles to play. Halloween town seems to exist in a limbo state where everything is in a perpetual state of death and decay. Nothing changes at all. I think Jack and Sally are meant to rule Halloween because Halloween is a holiday about change and inverting the status quo. It's about the creepy and scary parts of life suddenly being celebrated, a night where anyone can put on a costume and be anything they want. But when this is your entire existence even that becomes stagnant. Jack and Sally are meant to be because they both want to try other roles out for a change. A pumpkin king trading his crown for a Santa hat to bring joy instead of terror. A lowly ragdoll tricking her master to be her own boss for a while.
@labelledamedumanor4876
@labelledamedumanor4876 3 жыл бұрын
They were aware that no change was not good for anything, if things stayed the same for Halloween Town's residents, it would be like taking a long walk blindfolded off a short pier.
@AmandaDixson
@AmandaDixson 3 жыл бұрын
Halloween is about energy, and the veil between the realms.
@rakkaiyatyronelamarbattle508
@rakkaiyatyronelamarbattle508 3 жыл бұрын
close but no Sally or eve was worried about whats wrong with everyone else jack was tryna get with gods daughter
@citrinehills7131
@citrinehills7131 3 жыл бұрын
u mean like pergatory...
@alejandrohernandez-pq4wu
@alejandrohernandez-pq4wu 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmandaDixson that wasnt expanded upon in the movie
@deijimonster2369
@deijimonster2369 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest and say that I really dislike the theory about all of the Halloween town residents being dead and that they were human before they ended up in Halloween town. I always thought that the residents were physical manifestations of human fears and supernatural beliefs that embody the spirit of Halloween. If all of the holiday worlds are physical manifestations of holidays, why is Halloween town different?
@unddzmbistr
@unddzmbistr 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree
@sarahharper3783
@sarahharper3783 3 жыл бұрын
Then why does it mention Jack being dead so many times. “And since I am dead I can take off my head” “And absolutely no one’s dead.”
@fairly-celestial4715
@fairly-celestial4715 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the beauty of theories I think, belief what you want and like better. If that’s what you like better, then that’s your theory
@scientistservant
@scientistservant 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@skym.3362
@skym.3362 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarahharper3783 because song writing
@OurKindofEntertainment
@OurKindofEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about no bones, blood, muscle or tissue has been the source of confusion for many fans during the scene where Oogie tickles her foot and it 'appears' as if Sally is ticklish 😂 Either she is/was or she was simply egging Oogie on during her attempted rescue of Santa lol
@byMidnyt
@byMidnyt 3 жыл бұрын
What's to be confused about? Sally is a creation of a magical creature in a land full of magical creatures. A singing skeleton, a boogeyman comprised of nothing but insects in a canvas sack, and a toy with spinning faces come to life are all good, but an animated ragdoll is confusing?
@DrCrow-bs8jw
@DrCrow-bs8jw 3 жыл бұрын
I can see how it can be a bit confusing as she has no bones, blood, muscle or tissue, at first cause of the stitches some ppl may think she is some sort of zombie as she is made out of human parts, but if she is made out of stuffing from leaves, I’m gonna guess she’s some sort of doll? I’m not really sure but I do know she has Halloween magic in her from the town.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrCrow-bs8jw …but toys/other automatons being “ticklish” has long been a trope to further anthromophize (sp? Don’t judge me) them. Toy Story obviously isn’t in the same universe. But Woody’s shown to be ticklish several times throughout the Toy Story franchise, and in TS2 he’s tickled by Bullseye licking his face while also reacting in annoyance vs pain when his arm is damaged, finally torn off, then damaged again Ie, basically the same rules as what applies to Sally. So…yeah. Sally is a doll-literally. And Anthromorphic Dolls have been a trope since the Steadfast Tin Soldier, if not earlier
@1021caprae
@1021caprae 3 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that Sally is actually a witch from the Salem witch trials era being hanged and the Dr. Finding her chopped corpse in the grave yard her being a witch could explain her more supernatural abilities with alchemy and potion brewing and having short glimpses of the future but that's what I think 🤔.
@galaxyskeleton
@galaxyskeleton 3 жыл бұрын
Yes same, but I think maybe her limbs were torn apart, because that was another method they used.
@lauracatania5063
@lauracatania5063 3 жыл бұрын
It may not have been Salem but somewhere in Europe. A young, sweet, servant girl with minor psychic abilities and an understanding of herbalism could easily get labeled a witch without being one.
@1021caprae
@1021caprae 3 жыл бұрын
@@lauracatania5063 good point I would of never thought of that lol thank you.
@urmumsgay9065
@urmumsgay9065 3 жыл бұрын
That’s dumb as hell
@1021caprae
@1021caprae 3 жыл бұрын
@@urmumsgay9065 what's dumb?
@lauracatania5063
@lauracatania5063 3 жыл бұрын
I’m going to add my own completely unprovable theory. The reason why Dr. Finklestein seems like Sally’s father is because he WAS her father. Neither remembers their human life or the connection. I’m thinking that the Dr. lost his wife, perhaps with the birth of his daughter, and is constantly trying to “find” her by building a bride. In life he experimented with electricity or lightening. As she grew his sweet, uncanny daughter became his assistant. She died during an experiment (lightening strike or maybe poison?). Her father was a broken man and saw himself as a monster. When he died he came to Halloween town as the mad scientist with no memory of the past but still “gives birth” to his daughter.
@j.schlagg
@j.schlagg 3 жыл бұрын
It could be that Sally was originally from another Holiday or Time Period. She has the skills needed for a Witch during the first Thanksgiving, and the compassion that someone from Christmas Town would have. On top of the fact that she subconsciously knows about Snow, those two colder Holidays make loads of sense.
@labelledamedumanor4876
@labelledamedumanor4876 3 жыл бұрын
Good theory. However I have my own theory regarding Sally's familiarity towards snow. It suggests that she died during the winter, a possible cause of death would be an illness caused by freezing weather.
@natashaorr1596
@natashaorr1596 3 жыл бұрын
@@labelledamedumanor4876 that would play into why she has no “feeling” in her limbs. She died of hypothermia (and maybe because she was traveling from holidays thanksgiving to Christmas bringing food/herbs when she was alive.)
@Chamomile225
@Chamomile225 2 жыл бұрын
They have a new book about her you should read, it explains her origins
@ReannaPeters12
@ReannaPeters12 Жыл бұрын
She's from the realm where the sandman lived. Dream land or something
@shyla5946
@shyla5946 3 жыл бұрын
Sally is a sweet Halloweentown character
@teamsteed1
@teamsteed1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah she is.
@PandorasPath
@PandorasPath 3 жыл бұрын
Added theory : I think being stuffed with leaves (instead of blood or bones) may have emphasized her abilities to be an alchemist in nature and also aid her skills as a herbalist. Allowing her to make the potions that she is knowledgeable about. 🌿🍃
@AmandaDixson
@AmandaDixson 3 жыл бұрын
She's meant to represent a ragdoll, but the head she has- still contains her brain. That is how she came back to life through electrocution, potions and magic. She just doesnt have the rest of her insides, except her mouth and eyes. Everything else is pure magic on the Dr's part alongside the Frankenstein body part sewing.
@meindreanight
@meindreanight 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmandaDixson actually he didn't create her at all
@dennisfarabee5216
@dennisfarabee5216 3 жыл бұрын
Sally is the younger sister of Emily (Corpse Bride). Curious and devoted to her sister Sally follows Emily into the woods. Where she discovered by evil lord Barkis who hacks her to bits with a sword. Her remains are found and taken to Halloween town where Dr. Finkelstein sews her together and restores her to life. He wants her for his daughter.
@angelchansart
@angelchansart 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh! This would make sense, I hope it's true cause that would make for a killer backstory movie
@ElizabethMarin2551
@ElizabethMarin2551 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree but he poisoned her didn’t he?
@sharonjancovic4144
@sharonjancovic4144 Жыл бұрын
What if the girls switched places of the movie, victor and Sally Jack and Emily!!!⚰️⚡🎃☠️👻🏚️🕷️🕸️🔮🗡️🕯️😱🦇🧛‍♂️🧟‍♀️👰
@fallond3165
@fallond3165 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the beautiful thing about sally was that she’s so much *more* than the sum of her parts. This feels like trying to assign logic to a supernatural entity.
@thewitchwannabe5116
@thewitchwannabe5116 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that Jack and Sally were sweethearts when they were alive, but got separated when Jack was drafted in the revolutionary war and never got to see each other again. Only to be reunited in Halloween town after Jack came back as the Pumpkin king by the spirit of Halloween and Sally was made out of mostly the body of her past life.
@stevethecat9934
@stevethecat9934 3 жыл бұрын
Frankenstein in Hotel Transylvania had same abilities as Sally. Anfd why were human bodies from the real world buried in a magical Parnell dimension .
@hopesesay9598
@hopesesay9598 3 жыл бұрын
Love your pfp
@oooh19
@oooh19 3 жыл бұрын
The graveyards are portals to Halloween Town
@MS-rs6od
@MS-rs6od 3 жыл бұрын
Why is it that Tim Burton’s characters are always so similar? Emily and Sally are very much alike, as are Victor from Frankenweenie and Victor from Corpse Bride. Even Victor from the Corpse Bride has a dog he loves named Scraps which isn’t Sparky, but it’s so similar you can’t deny there’s probably some correlation between them. Tim Burton is so intelligent and creative
@paden1865able
@paden1865able 3 жыл бұрын
About Sally being comfortable with snow; snow has been falling in October for years beyond count, Jack probably isn't familiar with it because he more than likely spends most, if not all, of his time concocting plans for Halloween. Seriously, it seems to me like the dude doesn't get out much, by his own choice, of course.
@ViewerOnline101
@ViewerOnline101 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, I think Sally was first born/made in Halloweentown and didn't have a previous life. The "pieces" he used weren't "her". It's kind of like organ transplants. She may have "inherited" some traits from her parts, but she's not those parts. Like the Frankenstein monster.
@labelledamedumanor4876
@labelledamedumanor4876 3 жыл бұрын
You are forgetting the brain that Dr. Finkelstein gave Sally. If Sally did not have a previous life, she would be mindless, if she did however, the majority of her personality would originate from the grey matter, the brain would recall most of the personality & emotions of the original owner.
@QTCutes
@QTCutes 3 жыл бұрын
She could only inherit from someone else through her brain or maybe an argument for her heart but she can’t inherit traits through limbs lol
@nmckay65
@nmckay65 3 жыл бұрын
exactly! he created her just like he created the reindeers
@ViewerOnline101
@ViewerOnline101 3 жыл бұрын
@@nmckay65 Does she have/need a brain though? I mean, we see skeletons and such.
@ModelMadonna
@ModelMadonna 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sally was an apothecary or a daughter of one, which would explain her knowledge of herbs, potions, and even cooking.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 3 жыл бұрын
Is Sally dead? She’s literally just stuffing when she repeatedly removes her limbs. And this film isn’t shy about body horror with Oogy’s maggots or Sally’s abuser halfing his own brain to create his own “better half” (literally; but at least Sally’s finally free)
@AmandaDixson
@AmandaDixson 3 жыл бұрын
).*
@drakenjamesmommy
@drakenjamesmommy 3 жыл бұрын
I believe she is a creation. She was made by Dr. Finklestein to keep him company (in my opinion as a daughter type relationship). 🖤🖤 That is why he is always so concerned when she is gone. He is just an over protective father because he literally made her in his lab like a Frankenstein if you will.
@milirodriguez8493
@milirodriguez8493 3 жыл бұрын
@@drakenjamesmommy At first, I was like "he just made her to use her so he can be his assistant" but then you made a point. I mean he KNOWS that she had escaped and has poisoned him before yet he never tortured her and he stitches her up again. Not saying that locking her up isnt torture, but he couldve done more to her
@kirstyfairly4371
@kirstyfairly4371 3 жыл бұрын
Anonymous Fellow -Exactly. As a kid i always thought that Sally was basically meant to be like a living rag doll (similar to the dolls that we played with as little girls, but somehow alive with a mind of her own), that Dr Finklestein had brought to life to keep him company, & that's why he so selfishly tried to keep her with him as he didn't want to be alone. I mean, as you pointed out, Sally can even jump from a castle window & then sow her limbs back on without feeling pain, as if she's made from soft, non fleshy material, & she even looks almost exactly like a rag doll, so that always made sense to me.
@marinkafaure5265
@marinkafaure5265 3 жыл бұрын
Dont think Halloween town is an after life.. its like the other towns, Easter, Christmas, its just part of the rest of the holiday towns, and sally is a ragdoll, nothing more. but you do have a nice imagination.
@tennysonparks2059
@tennysonparks2059 4 ай бұрын
How does a ragdoll and Halloween connect?
@nightxore4824
@nightxore4824 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sally was a normal person living between 1600-1800 who was accused of being a witch because of her knowledge on potions and her visions and so dismembered which is why her body often falls apart and then Finklestein found her and put her back together and he told Sally that he created her so she owes him
@princesspam37
@princesspam37 7 ай бұрын
I like this theory makes since
@Northdracula
@Northdracula 3 жыл бұрын
Sally is the best. I once found my Sally, but she is gone now. I love the Nightmare Before Christmas. Happy Halloween and Merry Christmas to all you 🥀
@midnightnavigator
@midnightnavigator 3 жыл бұрын
But Sally was literally created by hand, just like Jewel. It's like seeing Jewel, whom we saw literally being made in the Doctor's image and giving half his brain to and saying "Who was Jewel when she was alive" Wot?
@LoLoA89
@LoLoA89 3 жыл бұрын
She didn’t die or live as a human. She was created by Dr. Finkelstein, which is why he was so possessive over her and said “I made you with my own two hands.” He created a conscious rag doll, which was the earliest version of a mate he attempted for himself… hence the latter scene where he mentions how much better his new creation will be from Sally. 🤷🏼‍♀️
@gelililili8852
@gelililili8852 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEOME WITH SOME SENSE 🖤💀😅😂
@gelililili8852
@gelililili8852 3 жыл бұрын
Except I dont think he wanted her as a mate! Maybe wishful thinking but I saw him more as an inept father tainted by his own loneliness and desire for control
@d4ever649
@d4ever649 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I always thought she was a doll
@d4ever649
@d4ever649 3 жыл бұрын
@@gelililili8852 I think she was like a daughter
@kirtu9035
@kirtu9035 3 жыл бұрын
right it's as simple as that
@sustelsuk
@sustelsuk 3 жыл бұрын
I imaged Sally as a Frankenstein like character with a Wiccan knowledge and somewhat abilities like precognition
@melissahalford41
@melissahalford41 3 жыл бұрын
Sally was created. She didn't have a past life. She a doll that came to life by the crazy doctor/scientist.
@allisondreher2287
@allisondreher2287 Жыл бұрын
A corpse brought back to life kind of is a creation it certainly is not natural.
@LittleBodyBigGyatt222
@LittleBodyBigGyatt222 Жыл бұрын
There is a book about sally by shea ernshaw, elly good she had parents she was stolen by doctor finkelstein and she was from dream town a forgotten tree- I recommend it ❤
@bitterflywing
@bitterflywing 2 жыл бұрын
You should read the new novel that came out. It reveals Sally's backstory and it's canon
@leland9465
@leland9465 2 жыл бұрын
Who's here after reading 'Long live the pumpkin Queen?'
@staciabelcher28
@staciabelcher28 3 жыл бұрын
You told her story so beautifully!
@bruh-js7tz
@bruh-js7tz 2 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong about some stuff but according to the book, Sally was born in a different realm. One type of species in the realm were called ragdolls. Her ragdoll parents gave birth to her, but when she was 12, Dr. Finkelstein wanted a daughter. He couldn't ever get a daughter though, so he kidnapped Sally and brought her to Halloweentown. He barricaded the other realm's door and gave Sally an amnesia potion so her parents wouldn't come looking for her, and so she wouldn't go looking for them. He removed the stuffing from inside her and replaced it with dead leaves to make it seem as though he was the one who created her.
@ThatOneMarveller
@ThatOneMarveller 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, the resolution is really saddening. Someone who had hope for life had it taken away. As a kid I never really thought about it in that way.
@TraciHinesMusic
@TraciHinesMusic 3 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting!! Love it Isaac! 👻🙌
@williampulfer-melville8536
@williampulfer-melville8536 3 жыл бұрын
I always just thought Sally was just a creation of Finkelstein with no previous life
@OzzyDrixClay
@OzzyDrixClay 3 жыл бұрын
If Jack was a Hessian a european then he would have seen snow
@emilywood4632
@emilywood4632 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content, Issac! Another great video!💖🌟🤓😍
@ajmartino1458
@ajmartino1458 3 жыл бұрын
So jack and sally were both alive before they died I never thought that
@PaulieLauraXombie1331
@PaulieLauraXombie1331 Жыл бұрын
Sally was never a human, In story boarding cut art content she was a cobbled up stitched up doll with one of Dr. Finkelsteins early brain prototypes, She was always a construct not a previous human. The doctor even mentions he perfected his experiment by making his own partner/love
@cinemacodey
@cinemacodey 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought of sally as a person that died and then brought back. I always thought of her as a new creation like a robot. But I guess that doesn’t make sense. I always thought he created her as a daughter.
@AlexAndElle
@AlexAndElle 3 жыл бұрын
Same! I always thought she was like Edward Scissorhands.
@baldyedwards285
@baldyedwards285 3 жыл бұрын
Awww Sally is so sweat that she deserves to be happier.
@anonymouschannel2161
@anonymouschannel2161 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah……I suggest reading long live the pumpkin queen. It’s a sequel to the movie but focuses on sally as the pumpkin and discovering more abt other holiday worlds and her past.
@cloverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr3945
@cloverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr3945 3 жыл бұрын
Isaac, your knowledge is amazing. You've helped me understand so many Disney characters and it's SO COOL!! You deserve way more subscribers. Hope to see you make it to a million one day.
@riduanaqil1452
@riduanaqil1452 3 жыл бұрын
Hii congratulation with the 600k subs
@watermasterquotev1560
@watermasterquotev1560 2 жыл бұрын
Going off of the bit you mentioned how at first you thought Sally was a witch. There was someone who theorized she was from the time period that people could have thought she was a witch because of her knowing how to make potions(which at the time could have been herbal medicine) and so the people chopped her up, hanced why she is stitched together.
@diamondly6250
@diamondly6250 Жыл бұрын
shes a rag doll from dream town, theres a book
@WhiteUnicornOracle
@WhiteUnicornOracle 3 жыл бұрын
I think she might have been a good witch. Because of how she can manipulate magic and have visions, also the whole "good witch, bad witch" trope where the good witch looks beautiful and the evil one looks ugly.
@sephirothcrescent5768
@sephirothcrescent5768 2 жыл бұрын
Actually there is a book called the "Pumpkin Queen" and spoilers,she was not a human girl.
@stargirl2477
@stargirl2477 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I haven't seen Nightmare, but I saw a review of it. Didn't really get Sally as a rag doll at first glance, seeing her knowledge of plants and potions and emotions. I thought only her arms and legs were made of plants and the rest were made of human reanimated working organs, so I like your theory about her.
@EChacon
@EChacon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting theory on Sally's Origins on who she was in her past life. Keep up the good work Isaac and Happy Halloween.👻🎃🎃🐈‍⬛🦇
@donovandelaney3171
@donovandelaney3171 3 жыл бұрын
Sally would get along great with Emily the Corpse Bride. They would be great best girlfriends ever!!
@sharonjancovic4144
@sharonjancovic4144 Жыл бұрын
Or switched places!!!
@cristyflaherty4902
@cristyflaherty4902 3 жыл бұрын
Because you did a video on the relationships of Daisy and Donald and Scrooge and Goldie, can you please do a video explaining Gandra and Fenton's relationship?
@JAXCOCADMIN
@JAXCOCADMIN 3 жыл бұрын
She could be the corpse’s bride after the end of her movie when she was finally at rest…. She could have learned some magic in the land of the dead… or from the dr who rebuilt her…
@samanthacapron3375
@samanthacapron3375 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he used Emily's brain
@attmosf3ar
@attmosf3ar 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the way Sally died was by suicide. bc of the way she jumps off the window
@kittypetjaguire8570
@kittypetjaguire8570 3 жыл бұрын
Aah I’m early! Yay! Time for some Disney Knowledge~! ❤️🥰
@brandonlrushman2870
@brandonlrushman2870 3 жыл бұрын
Sally is all of us who were robbed of freedom and yearned for much more in life. 💔
@NerdXlife
@NerdXlife 3 жыл бұрын
The mind of sally and desires and talents carried through even after her death and we see that she’s independent, she’s a good cook, caring and she is getting held back by the doctor, do you think she could be part of an alternative reality where none of the Disney princesses ever got their happy ever after.
@angelchansart
@angelchansart 3 жыл бұрын
Woah! That's a good perspective I never thought of that
@markcorl2022
@markcorl2022 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched some of your videos and I give you credit for the work you put into them. However, I think you may be overthinking things a bit. I’ve seen the film many times since I first saw it in the theater back in ‘93 and I’ve always viewed Sally as one of the doctor’s creations (a rag doll stuffed with autumn leaves) that he can’t control, which adds a little conflict to the story. I never saw her as having a past life, as she was created from inanimate objects, unlike Dr. Frankenstein’s creation that was created with, once living, tissue. I just always thought the magic that animated her came more from the magic of Halloween Town.
@byMidnyt
@byMidnyt 3 жыл бұрын
I, too, have watched this movie multiple times each year since it was released. And while it's fun to theorize, I have to agree - Sally is simply one of the Doctor's creations - one of his earliest (successful?) creations. That's why she doesn't have a skeleton or organs. I don't get why this video thinks she's a new creation. Sally's restlessness and rebellion speak of adolescence, not a past life. She's behaving very much like a teenage girl: sneaking out, testing boundaries, crushing on a boy. Teenage girls can be surprisingly empathetic (her personality differences) and are often more intuitive (the visions) than they are given credit for, because, you know, they're teenage girls. Even her reaction to the snow that so many comments are saying is proof that she's seen it before can be chalked up to this. She's not really present in the moment with the snow. She basically just helped rescue her crush, who has been pulled away into the spotlight (which she actively avoids lest the Doctor make her go back), and thinks that he isn't interested/doesn't care. She feels alone. She's brokenhearted, mourning what she thinks is an unrequited love. The newness of snowflakes is the absolute last thing on her mind. I believe that her personality is a result of magic being unpredictable, of her being one of the Doctor's earlier creations, created when he didn't know as much about the magic he was wielding to make his creation come to life. If you want to overthink things, I also think Sally is a commentary on free will as well - Sally is not bound by her creator nor her environment to become the same as everyone else in town. It happens in real life too. Ever meet a family where everyone jokes about that one kid being adopted? The emo goth kid in a family full of cheerleaders and football players. The artist in a family of doctors and lawyers. It's more an example of how life, like magic, can be entirely unpredictable.
@darthciless4954
@darthciless4954 3 жыл бұрын
Oogie Boogie even refers to her as a rag doll, sometimes stories are just stories, with no hidden meaning. Not all artist's stories or creations have to be connected to one another in some giant universe they create. Sally carries around needles and thread to repair herself, she's also a fan of sewing and crafting, I never got the impression she was a Frankenstein monster and always knew she was a rag doll.
@GingerDevil24
@GingerDevil24 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Sally use to be a seamstresses, she is too handy with a needle and thread ( She stitches herself up all the time) and always seems to have that very needle and thread always handy...
@JenniferBrigitteOpticalVortex
@JenniferBrigitteOpticalVortex 3 жыл бұрын
I love that ❤️🥰
@elisabethsharpe6003
@elisabethsharpe6003 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I think that way about Sally as well. True Genius! "Happy Halloween everyone "
@alvarovaldovinos6836
@alvarovaldovinos6836 3 жыл бұрын
To me, Sally was a white Wytch. Connected to nature and mother earth. Butterflies have s strong symbolic representation to white magic wytches. Her red hair, her potion's, her herbal knowledge, her ritual to take a thistel and scrying to foresee the future........that she is stuffed with leaves......that would make her more connected to earth. A black magic wytch....thise would be the one's flying in the air; in the dead of night.
@Nightcore-336
@Nightcore-336 2 жыл бұрын
I like that idea
@diamondly6250
@diamondly6250 Жыл бұрын
Shes not a human shes a rag doll from the dream land. she was never made by the dr he just made her think that. this is canon theres a book that takes place after the movie
@discorddeucewolf2414
@discorddeucewolf2414 3 жыл бұрын
🎵 All together, that and this With all our tricks, we’re making Halloweeny time This time, this time Making Halloween , making Halloween , la, la, la It’s almost here and we can’t wait So ring the bells and celebrate ‘Cause when the full moon starts to rise We’ll all sing out “It’s Halloweeny time 🎵
@joshuatewolde1837
@joshuatewolde1837 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween & Merry Christmas, Issac Carlson!!
@belen4698
@belen4698 3 жыл бұрын
His positive energy is very precious
@thetheorizermoore7476
@thetheorizermoore7476 3 жыл бұрын
Do this for httyd How all the dragons in the known world go to the hidden world tans live under toothlesses rule And The list of every known species of dragon out there
@gabrielavillalobos9425
@gabrielavillalobos9425 2 жыл бұрын
Well, now there is a book out about Sally.
@ttsquad5653
@ttsquad5653 Жыл бұрын
Sad to say Sally wasn’t even created by him he stole her from a different tree(dream town)
@gabriellegonzales9694
@gabriellegonzales9694 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sally is a rag doll, but her brain might be from someone who used to be alive.
@DKnightLightdotcom
@DKnightLightdotcom 3 жыл бұрын
A little late but maybe the reason Sally died originally was because she could have been drowned as a witch, maybe her visions are inherent to her body (like her eyes) & always had that gift. Maybe one day she told the wrong person her secret power, possibly somebody she liked or was engaged to, & was reported to the local witch hunters? And since she wasn't actually a witch, she couldn't save herself from the "trial" and drowned?
@qtpie9645
@qtpie9645 2 жыл бұрын
If you observe the way Sally walks, it's that of a ballerina. Perhaps, she was before her death.
@OzzyDrixClay
@OzzyDrixClay 3 жыл бұрын
Was Quenda Linzap possesed by the Alien Fertilizer she seems crazier then usual seem seems unable to feel anything but happy . Yet she gets angry in computer program
@summerlynonyx9087
@summerlynonyx9087 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with some of the others, Sally sounds like she was a witch that died for whatever reason and when the Dr created her he brought her back with the magic of Halloween Town. She knows just a bit too much to be just a ragdoll. Her sewing abilities fall hand in hand also with the idea that she's a witch (perhaps a bit of voodoo in her past life)
@tayloredwards4968
@tayloredwards4968 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween🎃
@supersonickeith
@supersonickeith 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on hitting 6,000 subscribers Isaac Carlson
@NoirRose21
@NoirRose21 3 жыл бұрын
@Isaac Carlson, I got a theory about Corpse Bride, which is a Tim Burton movie, where Emily (aka the corpse bride) is the older sister of Victoria, who’s parents are broke and so Victoria’s arranged to marry Victor who’s family is nouveau rich (new money) and as they open their safe it’s filled with dust and cobwebs, so Emily was the black sheep of the family for taking her family’s money and running away and the Everglot parents banished her from their minds and acted as Victoria was their only child (either that or Victoria was too young to remember Emily was her sister cuz of the age difference?)
@immclovinit247
@immclovinit247 3 жыл бұрын
I think actually that Sally has the personality of Emily from Corpse Bride.Emily died at a young age which explains in why Sally wants to be so open and explore her life with no regrets.Emily also has never gotten the love of her life which also explains on why she wants to do everything just for Jack.In the video you showed that Sally had made an little air potion thing that was a butterfly,Emily also had an connection with butterflies from when she passed.Emily passed and was known with butterflies in the air. I think Jack may also be Victor from Corpse Bride not for sure yet.Victor from Corpse Bride also has the same name as Victor from Frankenweenie.They have the same hair style and both has dogs. The dogs have different names but that’s because when they passed on they needed new names otherwise their names wouldn’t make any sense with the names they have from before.Jack Skeleton also has a dog.Kid Victor dogs name was Sparky,If I am correct Sparky either passed around the end or died while Victor was still growing up. In the movie corpse bride older Victor has a dog named Scraps and it sounds pretty close to Sparky.Scraps would make also much more sense bc he has now passed and is pretty much Scraps.Zero is Scraps new name bc now there is Zero of Scraps nor Sparky.Younger Victor grew older to Older Victor and then may have passed and changed his name.Which it sounds crazy but if you really think about it why would Victor wanna be himself when he could be somebody else and not be remembered as the guy who almost married a corpse,The guy who was always clumsy? Sounds crazy but please enjoy and no hateeeeeeee.:)
@sharonjancovic4144
@sharonjancovic4144 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the girls switched places The corpse Sally Emily in the nightmare before Christmas!!!
@deshawnedwards6412
@deshawnedwards6412 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween Isaac Carlson! 🎃 This is HALLOWEEN!
@ASMRPhan
@ASMRPhan 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting theory! I wonder if they will ever make a movie about it in the future. Would be nice to see
@PaulieLauraXombie1331
@PaulieLauraXombie1331 Жыл бұрын
There will never be another movie but they did release a video game called Oogies Revenge that acts as a sequel, and a series of comics that delve into the life of Jack Sally and their children. Interesting read!
@patax144
@patax144 Жыл бұрын
They made a book where it is revealed she is actually a rag doll and comes from the dream realm
@PaulieLauraXombie1331
@PaulieLauraXombie1331 Жыл бұрын
@@patax144 Amazing book read it in one sitting. Totally fan fiction but loved it!
@alexandriagreathouse1373
@alexandriagreathouse1373 3 жыл бұрын
The part of where everyone is amazed (except Sally) is starting to make sense. Because in The Town Meeting, in the screen shot of her: She looks like she's thinking (This sounds familiar, but where?) I think that she was either Emily from the Corpse Bride or she was a maiden who wanted to be free
@tanyasobsessions2131
@tanyasobsessions2131 3 жыл бұрын
i thought she could've been a nurse actually now that i think about it based on this new to me idea that you raise in your video about them having a life before what we see in the movie. she knows about making what to me looks like medication and most likely has medical knowledge based on the fact that she takes care of her creator who is elderly. just my own personal take on her character of course.
@samanthamorton3397
@samanthamorton3397 3 жыл бұрын
woah! congrats on the subscribers!
@user-jm4mv2ob4k
@user-jm4mv2ob4k 3 жыл бұрын
Nice theory but she is actually created by the Dr. he mentioned how he created her and we can see him creating another in between of the plot clips.
@chloe_speaks2384
@chloe_speaks2384 3 жыл бұрын
What if Sally's mind came from someone who was wrongly executed as a witch?
@MetalHanyou1
@MetalHanyou1 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Sally is someone who died but rather, following Frankenstein rules, she is a completely different entity, independent from whoever any of her component parts came from -- including the brain. Similar to how Doctor Finklestein's new creation was made with a part of his own brain but is almost certainly not Doctor Finklestein himself.
@ttyngordon
@ttyngordon 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe her stuffing is done because she was hurt in her life, and now in her unlife, she is invulnerable.
@dmtea
@dmtea 3 жыл бұрын
i think she died bc she commit suicide by jumping from a high height. it would explain why she's all sewn together like that (& theres no other indicator of a cause of death on her body), amnesia of her past life (from the head trauma), & a lot of her unease/turmoil. i think tho she was also a witch or a spiritual herbalist, due to her knowledge of plants (& her 6th sense)
@nightmaremermaidanimations5649
@nightmaremermaidanimations5649 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would make sense that Sally would have a friend that is a siren because there is 110 billion Sally mermaid pictures on Facebook
@TickedOffPriest
@TickedOffPriest 3 жыл бұрын
I think she learned a thing or two about potions from Dr. Finklestein.
@FilmmakeroftheFuture
@FilmmakeroftheFuture 3 жыл бұрын
Sally’s past life makes me think of the real life Beatrix Potter.
@alexiajulie
@alexiajulie 3 жыл бұрын
Love this movie it never gets old 💕💕
@TheGabbieShow
@TheGabbieShow 3 жыл бұрын
Oh… I always thought sally was made from cloth like a doll… realizing its probably human flesh…
@sarah12D3
@sarah12D3 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin swears up and down she’s a cloth doll. I can’t tell
@nightmaremermaidanimations5649
@nightmaremermaidanimations5649 3 жыл бұрын
Sally's past life does make sense
@Name-be2ih
@Name-be2ih 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 602k
@Greytick
@Greytick 2 жыл бұрын
why did it take me this long to realize dr finklestein’s name is literally suppose to be a pun really meaning. sh** stain? lmao
@PixelTheExtraTerrestrial
@PixelTheExtraTerrestrial 3 жыл бұрын
Sally is stated to be a ragdoll even in the book the dr brought the ragdoll to life
@nightmaremermaidanimations5649
@nightmaremermaidanimations5649 3 жыл бұрын
When he says you're not ready for so much excitement that's what I yell let her go at the TV hahaha
@teamsteed1
@teamsteed1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting the video. I've been wondering about her backstory.
@seal..lover..1
@seal..lover..1 2 жыл бұрын
No no no, Sally was born she is from another town
@kanahamato2514
@kanahamato2514 3 ай бұрын
Canon - She's a ragdoll from city behind ancient tree door who mad doctor kidnapped from her ragdoll parents when she was a little girl.
@ashleyburford7032
@ashleyburford7032 3 жыл бұрын
Corpse bride and nightmare before Christmas, Victoria and Victor, I think Jack was Victor and Sally's brain came from Victoria. So after death they were able to reconnect.
@K-13413
@K-13413 3 жыл бұрын
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