Would You Buy a Rolex Submariner Over THIS Watch? | Watchfinder & Co.

[@troobs1990]

“Hoarding them like toilet roll” in a few years someone will watch this video and be so confused at the reference.

[@Yoshikaable]

It's more likely to become a common phrase that enters our collective lexicon... and some linguistics PhD in 100 years will unearth this video in their search for the origins of this phrase

[@NickonStark]

I don’t think anyone will be confused. literally the whole world is under lockdown for a history-book-content global pandemic after all.

[@vincent5]

@@NickonStark but in 30 years... (New generation)

[@NickonStark]

Anonymous we’ll be the old guys telling our kids all about how they don’t know the half of it. that we ain’t had no TP for a whole damn year!

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

Sadly History has a bad habit of getting rewritten and changed over the years, ignored many times 🧐

[@tippykaffu4047]

The thumbnail made me think its a Japanese watch

[@joestoes2503]

Nice

[@maredentro515]

Well played, Sir.

[@morgenstern4.669]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU CHEEKY SNEAKY

[@conqwiztadore2213]

Japanese watches don't count here

[@tippykaffu4047]

@@conqwiztadore2213 what why?

[@CaptShane-sy7lr]

Just wouldn’t be a watchfinder&co video without a few swipes at Rolex.

[@CaptShane-sy7lr]

RS2002 Sure but no one faults Ferrari when they do it.

[@Sandouras]

@@CaptShane-sy7lr Sure they do. Ferrari are known to be massive cunts in the world of cars.

[@arjdroid]

Don't you mean, "wipes" with how high the demand is? Lol

[@Chris-es3wf]

@RS2002 Sorry, but that's simply wrong. Rolex is NOT manipulating the market... it's not a monopoly. Its sinply doing what every successful provider of Luxury goods wants to do (most cant). Are you truly that dense?

[@CaptShane-sy7lr]

Sandouras Why does exclusivity have to be based on price alone? Would you rather prefer that the price is so exorbitant that it’s out of reach (which is what AP does) or that you have to “wait your turn” at the AD?

[@vincent5]

Definetly the AP. It's just more special...

[@joaomendes2454]

Ugly

[@doctormdds]

@@joaomendes2454 I agree

[@CoreyWBaker]

@@joaomendes2454 Subjectively ugly. I like them.

[@ShiroKage009]

I find it rather ugly though.

[@marcd7332]

Anonymous Why is everyone so desperate to be special? Just buy whatever you like.

[@maggotpudding]

That dent at 5:19 must have hurt all the way into previous owners soul when it happened.

[@phmwu7368]

it's supposed to be a " tool " watch after all .... LOL !!!

[@BY-jp7sg]

Mine has dents and I love them :)

[@logwind]

haha no doubt!

[@LEARNINGMG]

Lmao hahahahahah

[@arkonakron61]

@@BY-jp7sg mine has 2 dent on the left side, and I still love it

[@jimmyf1312]

I don’t like the offshore. I’d much rather have a modern sized Royal Oak

[@itunes4819]

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[@noobzrule]

Royal Oak is for royalty tho

[@pete49327]

After accidentally discovering this channel a week ago, I've been binge watching daily. I've never been a watch person, I wear a cheap digital Timex or Casio on occasion. When I was actively flying I would wear a cheapish watch with rotating bezel; I forget the brand. BUT, I now so want to own a Rolex or Omega, etc. before I die because of your videos. I really do much appreciate the mechanical wizardry of these fine watches, much like my decades long love affair with mechanical 35 mm cameras.

[@robertsullivan4773]

Have my eye on a Fifty Fathoms myself. The Sub is way too common.

[@vincent5]

Yeah

[@joaomendes2454]

But desirable

[@dbiwatches1891]

Top choice,so want a Bathyscaphe!

[@ocb05]

Ferrous HeartedHelmet try Baltic.

[@LuisFranciscoAguilar]

Had a Bathyscaphe. It had play on the bezel, i was very dissapointed and sold it. *Swatch Group Classic*

[@j5daniel182]

those who bought the AP Diver used right after watching this video last year must be so happy. It has since jumped in price by USD 6k and surpassing even Rolex Hulk prices.

[@GP-nn9to]

Dad's rule: Don't bite off more than you can chew. I see a lot of chocking coming.

[@LEARNINGMG]

hahha strongly agree

[@ashsta9356]

The sub is an absolute dream piece for myself. I’ve always had a soft spot for dive watch’s above all else. The fact that they are rugged ready to go pieces but also look completely in place if you’re wearing a suit and tie really shows how versatile they are. Plus my first watch which cemented my love of watch’s was my dads old citizen pro master diver which he never took off. The submariner i think is the perfect watch all round, and being that it was the watch to start dive watch’s makes them so extra special

[@PaulThorpeOfficial]

Nasty mark on that AP Bezel. Give me the AP all day long!

[@prashants1818]

Agreed I too wld take the AP any day all day !

[@sabok6282]

@PaulThorpeWatchDealer You are the biggest and most shady dishonest watch dealer EVER!!! The only difference between you and your thief son is that he was CAUGHT as thief!!!

[@auxmike]

Sa Bok got proof to back that up? Fool...

[@auxmike]

Paul Thorpe Watch Dealer hi Paul! Keep up the good work, mate!

[@noobzrule]

All day and night long with the AP 😛

[@ES-tr5no]

Not a big fan of the AP, never cared for that shape, but I’d take it over the Rolex since that’s what compared here. But if I were putting my cash down on the counter today, it be the new Omega Seamaster 300M

[@lurox5183]

Totally agreed, it is such an incredible watch especially for the money

[@bensmith4666]

Omega all the way! A seamaster, speedmaster and plenty of change from a sub is a no brainer in my eyes.

[@bighands69]

Ask anybody on the street one watch brand and everybody will know Rolex. Ask them AP and they will think you are talking about a medical exam.

[@antagonisticprotagonist85]

@@bighands69 so that makes it bad? Ask someone if they know you and they won't give a shit

[@frankthetank5013]

E S 300M with a white dial 👍🏻

[@wpi6705]

Could u have a look at the Glashütte original seaq

[@Drakotar]

Never. AP always

[@lucascheraki3257]

I would honestly get a zenith el primero defy and an omega seamaster 300m for the price

[@bighands69]

Rolex are like Toyota in that they are everywhere. Easy to service and also to sell.

[@michaelrytel2389]

I have both AP Diver and Rolex SUB. AP Diver is on another level!

[@sidwallace6053]

I bought a Tudor black bay 58 for half the price and I’m very pleased with it and it was very easy to get via an up market high street jewellers in the UK

[@abymathew295]

Very good choice indeed...😍

[@stevefox8605]

Better looking than either of these 👍🏻

[@00supersir00]

Just got mine a few days ago. Lovely watch.

[@enriqueflorendo]

Bought the bb58 returned and got a sub. Bb58 is gorgeous but the gilt dials just isn’t me. Future classic for sure! Can’t wait for a bb58 gmt.

[@00supersir00]

Enrique Florendo nice! Got a sub just like that?

[@PierreKerbage]

I absolutely love love your videos. So well made. No silly stuff in the beginning. You intro and you go.

[@smartbanter]

And that voice!

[@FunnyNenad]

Discover more exceptional reviews at Watchfinder.Every review is a masterpiece,thank you for that and keep up.👍👍👍

[@TheRunningManZ]

Amazing that you talk about the inflated price of Rolex watches when you are part of the problem. It’s you guys buying the watches from scalpers and trickle feeding them out making them seem hard to get that in part drives the prices higher. Now you make these videos like you are some kinda uninvolved third party that didn’t have a hand in it. You did!

[@chandanh.s7924]

AP is Better one to buy here. Although I am in no position to afford the either.. but my choice would be AP out of these two.

[@marcd7332]

Better is subjective

[@bighands69]

AP is a very well crafted watch but it is not as well know or easy to find as Rolex. In terms of brand Rolex like Coca Cola is well known.

[@bombazine2]

The AP is a scratch magnet which also relies on being perfect to show off its good looks. The service costs are higher because AP insist on doing everything even when just a service would do. AP might have a better movement but its a delicate dress watch movement that will be less durable than the Rolex (I'm speaking from bitter experience when it comes to the AP of course)

[@armankermanshah9209]

I have an AP and its scratched up as well, but I love every little scratch. The petina of a watch does not make it loose value, plus watches are meant to be enjoyed so where it without fear!

[@Alexsdiver]

True. APs are fragile and delicate. Had troubles with mine ROO twice in the course of 2 years ownership. And the service and parts are outrageously expensive. Rolexes on the other hand are workhorses, able to take on heavy and hard use, almost never giving you problems.

[@weiniesail]

The Sub was built as a tool and evolved as an expensive homage to a tool. The AP is an homage to watchmaking.

[@vincent5]

Lmao

[@sow4now]

weiniesail 😂🤣 As Peugeot is an homage to finally crafted automobiles.

[@THEREALZENFORCE]

@@sow4now Google : Peugeot 905 Le Mans race win Peugeot 908 HDi FAP Le Mans race wins Peugeot 208 T16 Pike's Peak 875hp 875 kg (Sebastien Loeb's record car) Peugeot 405 405 T16 GR Rallye and Pike's Peak wins and record Peugeot 205 T16 aka Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Rallye (1984 to 1986) Peugeot 206 WRC Rallye (2000 to 2002) Peugeot E-Legend Concept (autonomous level 4 superior to Tesla yet forbidden to use in Europe) The history of crafted automobiles laughs at your uneducated comment :-)

[@MrGuilhermeLeite]

The question for me is: Get a Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE201G for half of the price? In terms of quality/movement/finish grand seiko is where compare to Rolex and AP...between?

[@notbutta]

TRUE

[@jameshunter7650]

Buy a second hand grand Seiko. Best thing you'll ever do. They are a better watch they just currently depreciate. Let someone else take the retail hit and you'll never go wrong. I've got many watches but my GS diver is special.

[@YA-ee9zf]

Guilherme Leite when you buy seiko you’ll lose money when you buy a Rolex you’ll get your money back with profit. So economically the Rolex is cheaper

[@afghandydynamite9767]

Y A Watches like these shouldn’t even be sold back. Their pieces of art that should be passed down, unless times get real tough. Would love to have a Rolex or a grand seiko ahah

[@LG-kl3co]

Huge prestige and aspiration in owning a SEIKO ???

[@russell996]

The moral of the story is buy the Rolex new and the AP used.

[@bighands69]

The moral of story is do you really need a dive watch. The answer is simple if you do not dive then no you do not need them. A Explore 1 would be more than enough for many people as would an Oyster. There are many great watch brands out there offering fantastic watches such JLC, girard perregaux, Nomos, Seiko, Omega and so on for half the price of a Submariner. Now if you want to dive and also own a luxury watch a Submariner is the perfect choice.

[@splashpit]

bighand69 most people need a dive watch like I need a lume on a Muller crazy hour !

[@LEARNINGMG]

hahah I agree

[@bikerdude1375]

The sub is the most legendary dive watch in the world for a reason. Rolex keeps getting knocked for some reason but as a watch nerd my self I consider Rolex one of the best watch brands in the world. Rolex has been the most worshipped watch brand for decades and we all know marketing can get you up there but quality will KEEP you up there. The Royal oak is my personal grail time piece. Great video as always.

[@bighands69]

Rolex rarely markets the watch yet everybody knows about the brand.

[@Mb789x]

People knock Rolex mostly because they’re dying to get one but they can’t, unless they pay high premium on the Grey Market for it. You can’t just walk in a store and ask for a Sub. Not everyone understands this reality. An unknowing person who walks in to a Rolex store ready to buy a watch and gets told no, will most probably knock the brand for not selling them one.

[@onifrakimarq7663]

Well,I think I would go with a Seamaster 300 instead. Cheers Oni

[@SpaghettiKillah]

Oooh you mean that asymmetrical 2-horned *FUGLY* watch? No thx.

[@onifrakimarq7663]

@@SpaghettiKillah exactly 😉

[@onifrakimarq7663]

@@sonnys4766 great London style! 👍

[@noobzrule]

😹 I take a Sub all day

[@SpaghettiKillah]

It's time to pull the plug on Rolex and their ADs shenanigans and use your money for something else. We hold the power of decisions...not them.

[@Chris-es3wf]

The public votes with their wallet. The vote is in. AP is too much trouble to service. Better to go Patek if you're going to go that route...

[@centrallyintelligentagency]

Chris Damn, someone’s salty about Rolex getting called out!

[@bighands69]

@@centrallyintelligentagency Called out. It is a time tested luxury watch that does exactly what it is suppose to and it is in demand. Is it you that does not like facts.

[@centrallyintelligentagency]

bighand69 I don’t mind the facts. I mind the motivation behind them. Do I care that Rolex makes a good product? Not really; this has been known forever. Do I think that the individuals who worship Rolex need to think outside of their comfort zone for once? Most definitely.

[@cheesecrumpets]

"Which would you choose?" The Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Moonphase

[@reedhamkalariya6976]

JLC Master Ultra Thin Perpetual Calendar is heavy underrated.

[@barfymann362]

I got gifted a Tudor Black Bay 58, and I've never been much for Sporty wacthes; infact I hate bracelets and tend to learn towards owning a JLC Reverso and Cartier Tank. I do have to say, the Tudor Black Bay 58 has to be my favourite watch. It's beautiful, and in my honest opinion; knocks the Submariner out of the ball park.

[@bikergolfer]

Had you shown the movement of the AP I think that would have sealed the deal

[@devanshmadan.]

Please do a review of Jaeger-LeCoultre reverso duo face

[@iluvass]

@@pradeep2662 Lmao why can't an Indian ask for this?

[@devanshmadan.]

@@pradeep2662 why can't I as an Indian ask for a particular watch to be reviewed?

[@alimamuk]

Regardless of the watches, Man you are an icon... truly enjoy your videos. 👍🏻

[@CayenneTurboDriver]

As a guy who owns both watches, I can say that my Sub gets much more wrist time. Probably because most of the people I have met mistook the AP for an Hublot, which pretty bothers me considering the price. 😄

[@wesk7346]

Thanks for another sagacious piece on best practices. I had made the mistake a while ago when I bought an old automatic chronograph that ended up costing more in maintenance and repairs than the initial purchase. Needless to say, it's a "museum" piece now more than practical wear.

[@CleanClaspCollector]

Yes. What’s the question? I’m saving up for a Sub. Already have the Speedy Pro. Then GS spring drive dress watch and a bunch of Casios and I’ll be set.

[@uwaissuilman2358]

Jacob A . So you think ! 😂

[@thomasmoll8822]

I swear - if I see one more KZbin video with a Sub in it, I'll instantly die of boredom...

[@Chris-es3wf]

Please rewatch this video immediately.

[@georgezagr6627]

Chris bwahahahahahaha 🤣🤣

[@Mb789x]

Stop looking at watches then. The Sub is an iconic watch whether you like it or not.

[@jonathanland2218]

I think we’re about to see a cliff edge on most watch prices. How steep - who knows.

[@bighands69]

Rolex has a very limited supply of watches on the market place. The reason why they are hard to get and expensive is due to the fact people like them and want them and there is limited supply.

[@hyfy-tr2jy]

I think some of the "transitional" watches will drop off sharply (transitional meaning entry point high end watches that "commoners" can afford). The true high end timepieces won't be affected much, if at all, due to the fact that the people who buy them are essentially recession proof.

[@tikiecue5677]

Definitely AP. Seriously, I've been around some very snooty, very snobbish crowds albeit serious watch crowds and they talk about Rolex like it's something they gift their schoolboy nephews. One of the people even mentioned Rolex thinks too highly of its brand when in reality people isn't actually looking for Rolex anymore at an AD. The only reason there's a myth about the supply is when you ask an AD if they have a Sub, of course they will say "oh you need to buy it in cash" or "there is a more than 6 months wait" rather than "oh we have 3 in the back and 5 more coming". Another reminded me that technically Rolex isn't really in-house as they just bought their movement maker to make movements exclusively. So she told me how is that any different than Richemont buying Eterna who makes ETA? If Rolex start making movements for other makers, then they will fall decades behind due to their non-improving design. I tend to believe that... Rolex doesn't really have anything more compared to the other makers other than their clout of exclusivity.

[@Ronny42]

This all being said it should still be comfortable to wear and I've got to say that AP just isn't comfortable at all It literally feels twice as big as the Submariner on my wrist. I would definitely suggest trying them both on to compare.

[@watchreviews4k]

Interesting pieces. Regards.

[@diederick6163]

I am the happy owner of an AP diver and a Rolex 16710 Pepsi. Every day I tend to pick the AP because it truly feels more special. However,... I wear my Rolex the most because it is more compact and feels slightly more practical. I See it as owning a Lamborghini Huracan and a Porsche 911. Both cars are very solid and perfect for daily, but you will never pick the Lambo as the daily car because it is way more delicate and unique.

[@slick4401]

"Offshore Diver." AP will come up next with the model "Sky Aviator" for pilots.

[@itsallrobbish]

Munrais I know plenty folk who are not offshore divers, to be petty, they’re offshore engineers on oil rigs, for instance.

[@AndyinSG]

Blown away by the masterful narration and videography. Just wow.

[@mb-watches]

Great video as usual and with a lot of reason. I bought Rolex in the golden era of 2011-2014, and even than old, weathered Rolex collectors were considering the prices asked as crazy. So it’s Great to have these alternatives. Keep up the good work and stay safe and healthy, cheers from Germany, Konstantin 🙏🏻

[@007-i6z8v]

Sorry, I choose Rolex .I owned them both and the AP can't withstand what the Sub does. The Sub is a worry free megatank, the AP not so much...

[@jpeters7594]

I just cannot understand that for £20.000 the screws are not exactly in the same form as the hole they are in

[@christophertrapp4195]

Patience is the key to watch collecting. Go to your AD, get on the list and get the Rolex. Wear it, see if you enjoy it, then sell it.

[@nicholasalonso6066]

Rolex is my choice between the two

[@bradle4162]

I had the opportunity to try an Audemars Piguet Royal Oak and a Rolex Submariner on my wrist. I remember the more magical feeling I had on my wrist when I put on the AP. After I left the store however, my mind couldn't help but think about how much I love the Submariner more. I would still take a Submariner over a Royal Oak. I wonder if the reason why I loved the Royal Oak so much in that moment was due to sheer rarity and the history of Gerald Genta in my head.

[@Hamburgerdad]

Both would be wonderful watches to have on the wrist. It seems like the used market for anything but a Rolex is the way to go now!

[@Mb789x]

Rolex holds its value best. Others, not so much. You can’t even buy an old beat up Sub with a crackled crystal for 5000$

[@catcat40000]

Or get an Omega diver for half the cost, twice the specs, and 4x the availability. Why not?

[@SpeCtGrrr]

catcat40000 seamaster aquaterra is enough

[@conqwiztadore2213]

It's not a Rolex

[@davidmeier8860]

Agree. Omega is likely the best bag for your buck in your stated range.

[@praetor47]

@@conqwiztadore2213 you're saying that like it's a bad thing, lol

[@praetor47]

@jrad044 tbh, by specs alone, a Sub is a 1-2k watch at best

[@lucascheraki3257]

if we are talking about maintenance over the next ten years there is also a question of market over the next ten years. The Rolex bubble could burst and the price of the sub could go down below its retail price and in the case the Rolex would cost way more to own

[@ianmansfield68]

I don't generally like the AP Royal Oak but this diver has me won over - I'd buy the AP!

[@gearrunner]

Shouldn’t a diver have a rotating bezel? Isn’t that kind of what makes a duvet a diver? So you can see how much oxygen you have left.

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

these days it seems the audio has been sounding quite weird. echo-ey with reverberations, the voice for the stock pre recorded OP is much better.

[@confidentalclinics1111]

Actually I loved the submariner aesthetics since I was a kid buying my first watch almost 25 years ago looking similar to the submariner. That’s how much I love it. Bought mine 6 years ago just walked in to an AD and it was sitting there so it was not a hype ar intense buying. For me ( and I am not comparing the Movements or finishing) I felt like the offshore is a childish watch and tooooo bulky for my taste I think of it more like a fashion thing (unlike the Royal oak which I love and respect and considering it in the future if I have the funds to do that) so, thank you I am sticking to my much loved submariner whether it’s too common or if it’s not available due to hoardings

[@PINKFL0YD-s2h]

And how much will it cost for the service on the TEN YEAR OLD AP?

[@JeremyToh]

Do you also write for Top Gear? Those vivid descriptions of the Ferrari is incredible, feels like you're a bit of a car lover too.

[@josephm.6453]

Still waiting the Odysseus review...

[@Alexj420]

If you’re a real watch enthusiast you know that buying an AP, PP, or VC for the same price as a Sub gives you a much better quality product in terms of watchmaking. But at the end of the day it all comes down to taste and preference.

[@WorldsStrongestFan]

I just purchased my first Rolex, a new Submariner date at retail after an 8month wait. Looking forward to collecting it from Pragnell in London when travel restrictions are lifted.

[@jacobgreenmanedlion1863]

I pick a solid 18k gold 1965 omega Seamaster Deville, and $7700 in change. It’s on my wrist now, along with my Vostok Amphibia SE. Every day. And keeps time well within COSC specs.

[@shipmate3577]

I actually like the Rolex Sub > AP Royal Oak

[@AmazingMaxStuff]

After having read the Hodinkee article on how Rolex manufactures their watches I'm in total love with them. Used to be an hater. Hence I would definitely pick the Sub any day of the week.

[@tonp2917]

For me the Rolex. Not persé because of the name but more because it looks solid but stil is beautifull and elegant. Also because the design is timeless, it will always look modern and wearable. And yes, also because it is a Rolex with all bennefits for the future like keeping up the value, being timeless and easy to find a servicepoint from an AD.

[@christophersapsford1828]

Always hated how the AP hex screwheads don't sit straight in their holes. And what's with the screwdriver slot on a hex head screw anyway!

[@MaNiChOxX]

Yes I chose it over that AP. I like it more.

[@Peter-lm3ic]

The Rolex Submariner has and will be for many years to come a most desirable watch for many reasons. The AP also will always have a following.

[@Tides-of-Time-and-Space]

Love the AP! Ceramic diver is on my goals list.

[@artagain8977]

...and people think the helium escape valve on the Omega PO is a wart!

[@hongliangliang2264]

For long term stability, service cost and daily wear-ability, there is no better choice than Rolex in entry and middle level of luxury watches.

[@joaomendes2454]

Well said

[@deifor]

The classic Royal Oak, not the Off Shore, is, together with the Nautilus my favorite watches. Gerald Genta was a genious.

[@The_real_Mr_Ghost]

The AP diver is by far the best AP model.....i know because I own several AP RO models

[@nxx7]

Hi, can you review H Moser & Cie? Especially the Vantablack collection. Or you have review it already?

[@MTbone7]

I have both brands and AP makes Rolex seem just normal. Both still great brands and I love them both, they are just on different levels and thats ok. #oxfordmba

[@bighands69]

Normal. I would take a Submariner diving before AP.

[@MTbone7]

bighand69 what are some of your favorite dive spots?

[@kanyeplugg]

can you do a video of rolex explorer ii vs sub?

[@jlo8775]

I’ve been collecting timepieces for over 30 years and never have i sent a watch in for “scheduled” service....with that being said, the AP is the superior choice.

[@hammalamiri12]

Would rather have the submariner on looks alone

[@thorham1346]

Indeed.

[@horologywatchmaking13]

With this mindset is the reason why they are so many fashion watches out there . 'Because of the looks'

[@hammalamiri12]

@@horologywatchmaking13 fashion watches look hideous and cheap most of the time. More for accessories to match outfits / looks

[@jimmyjay122]

The sub is by no means a “good looking watch”. It has a bulky case a narrow bracelet and unbalanced dial/face staring at you all day long. And it’s everywhere.... It’s like having a G-shock in middle school.

[@jackburtonstwin]

Given the spectacular rise in Sub values (even used examples) I think a buyer could be looking at a direct choice between the Rolex and a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. For me, if that were ever a choice, I would be rocking the FF and loving the fact that everyone is wondering why I would want a watch named after the staple product of a bakery?

[@impexRQ]

Rampant Pygmy Blancpain Fifty Fathoms is just way in another level than a simple Rolex sub , I went for Glashütte SeaQ Panorama Datum tho ... even over the Blancpain

[@aquanuatpatek6802]

Rolex using 904L steel what about AP what kind of steel? Better than 904L?

[@wasimmohammad7689]

I have a sub black and green, I want an AP but the not used and can't justify double the price. AP is just a killer piece. true around the costs, maintenance etc. Most people forget about that.

[@mdesmet9111]

I got my Sub at retail from the AD and the most affordable Royal Oak (>37mm) I found was three times what I payed for the Sub, so to me it's a no-brainer...

[@smashexentertainment676]

The Royal Oak from video is $15K brand new, the particular Sub is $10K.

[@jeanraspail2979]

Any steel sport Rolex at retail is a no-brainer, isn't it?

[@j0int458]

Jean Raspail yeah, sell it and get a few better watches

[@mdesmet9111]

@@jeanraspail2979 mostly yeah, although there are some models I don't really like (Explorer II, Airking...)

[@mdesmet9111]

@@smashexentertainment676 You're right...when comparing prices I filtered out anything under 38 and over 42, so the 'Offshore' version (44mm) was filtered out. But it's still about twice the price of the Sub at retail, especially if you take the real Sub (no date) like I did, and bought it at the old (pre-'20) price of €6900.

[@JamesDavidWalley]

It wouldn’t be a "predicament" for me…because the only one I could afford would be a Submariner sold on a corner on Canal Street. And I personally doubt they carry any APs. 🤣

[@anthonymattock4754]

The Sea Dweller 16600 is the dive watch to have

[@stevehen1000]

Please do a video presenting the Zenith Doublematic. I think that's better than both of the above. Thank You.

[@Peter1Europe]

AP's disign is unbeatable.

[@olegpetroff5412]

We are in 2022 now and there is no more depreciation for AP divers. Thanks to this video I suppose :) Twice a Submariner on a secondary market as well.

[@Ricky.913]

If I never watch their videos ever again... I would still click on them and give it a thumbs up 👍 it's a good day, when you guys post a new video. Thank you

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

Brilliant I had a Rolex SubMariner bi metal, blue dial. Bought second hand. Owned for 10 years and sold making a small profit. Bought in 1999 for £2600 a 96 model. Sold in 2009 for £3200. Now have a Sea Dweller 2000 model £4000 and a 2013 Milgauss Black Dial GV £4250. Don’t think I will have lost money £££ but who knows, until I need or wish to sell. 👍🏻 AP tempting 😎

[@laurinbar3223]

Hi there! Is this because of corona or will this be for longer than that? Nice video like always!

[@jensh.2595]

That AP bezel outter edge seems refinished too lacking crisp borders between the finishes.

[@Chris-oz9qx]

There’s about 10 diver watches I’d take over the AP even without price being considered. Submariner, GP Sea hawk, GS spring drive diver, Pam submersible 959, Fifty fathoms blue dial, Omega seamaster 300 white dial, UN deep dive diver, Bell and Ross 03-92 blue, just off the top of my head. The AP diver turquoise dial is amazing though.

[@benoithebert9399]

The black submariner is the black suite, white shirt, black tie of watches. It's never gonna get old just because.

[@watchmedoit9999]

I can personally relate to the topic of this video. I was fortunate to purchase my first Rolex, the Submariner Date last year. But I did wonder throughout the purchasing process what else I could by with submariner money +/- a few thousand dollars. When it came down to it, the Rolex just made the most sense, especially for someone just starting their watch collecting journey. I mean if I start with an AP what am I going to realistically move on to?

[@covalentertainment1671]

Just buy a watch you love. Why should you care about upgrades or other watches? As long as you have the money for an AP, I recommend you buy one. As they say, it’s always better to own 1 good thing than 100 trash items.

[@MyVideosWillCalmU]

Again perfection at its best on the break down and macro shots💯

[@fastman119]

Loooooove it, definitely feel the 'frogs in the slowly bubbling pot' metaphor. I was looking at what a GMT 1675 would've cost 10 years ago, and it almost made me cry. $8,000! Nearly half what they're selling for now, so sad.

[@antonhallergren588]

Ap offshore is my grail tbh. I think I'm big enough to qualify for wearing it

[@impexRQ]

Definitely- Rolex submariner is boring and lack of innovation, I will take the AP without even thinking about it ... I went for the Glashütte SeaQ Panorama Datum tho ...

[@john-carlosynostroza]

Totally. While still boring, a modern Planet ocean from Omega is a way better watch than the Submariner. Equally or more tough and certainly more innovative. I'll take a fifty fathoms however

[@bighands69]

Submariner is a genuine robust dive watch. I cannot say that for many other dive watches out there. Omega is not what they used to be and they have increased in price as well.

[@mauricio9187]

Nice watches, still taking my legend diver everyday.