Would you rather Cupsole or Vulcsole

[@rowanmadden8689]

padding ! most vulc shoes are a lot thinner than cupsoles, in general I hurt my feet a lot more in vulcs.

[@christianflores]

That’s a good point.

[@anzohavecunh7135]

@@rowanmadden8689 not worth it because vulc hurts your feet first, then your back, then you become paraplegic so you cant wear vulcs anymore

[@maybands6535]

agreed

[@Elec3cal]

I think Christian wanted some dabate because is totally the opposite 😅

[@rowanmadden8689]

@@Elec3cal great, i love vulcs. any tips for a nice thicc pair ? i just got the Rowans they look pretty sturdy

[@killerpizza2718]

My opinion: Cupsole: more consistent flick Vulcs: more dramatic flick

[@fernandoreyes680]

This ^

[@Ohgreatcj.]

I’ve only ever owned and skated one pair of vulcanized shoes. The flick is precisely why I stopped skating them.

[@joshmolina6528]

what does dramatic flick mean, like good style or just a better flick?

[@Ohgreatcj.]

@@joshmolina6528 dramatic meaning a bit faster and a little less control sometimes. If you see a good pair of vulcanized shoes, then go for it. If you’re used to skating cup soles then just expect to change up your skating a bit. Nothing bad. I recently bought me some Kyle walker pros because I want to give vulcanized shoes another shot. My advice: Go with what feels right for you. Personally, I love cup soles for the protection.

[@austinmustdie3631]

rip to Brady who slapped some money on the patreon just do get called bradley 😩

[@fernandoreyes680]

Idk about cup or vulc, but what I do know is you should do a full review on Timbs 🥾🥾🥾🥾

[@jtoobacc18239]

The best simple explaination I found on youtube, the pictures made it easier to understand what a cupsole and vulcsole shoe is.

[@philhunnicutt9019]

board feel - The bottom/outsole of vulcs is more flexible, meaning you're going to feel a lot more through the shoe. Stiffness/break-in time - cup soles are all one piece and they're carved instead of melted into shape, so generally they're going to stay stiffer longer and take more time to break in (I say generally, because eS is ridiculously soft).

[@obiozor1]

Hyped on the shout-out at the beginning. Thanks man!

[@SkatingwithAaron]

Great video and straight to the point. I feel like cupsoles have way more padding as well. I’m not very good and only getting older so gotta go cupsole for me! Keep killing it man!

[@fernandoreyes680]

Honestly I enjoy the flick on cupsoles more than on vulc shoes. Idk I just feel like when I'm doing it on a cupsole, since the suede is the part of the shoe that is flicking, it feels so much more precise and more controlled. On a vulc you have this big rubber part that makes my flicks more inconsistent. That rubber kinda separates my foot from the board, but when you are flicking with the suede part it feels like your actual toe is doing the flick which makes it more controlled. Also, that rubber on the vulcs wears out super fast for me, and I absolutely hate that my kickflips feel some way one week and they feel completely different the next week because the rubber wore out which makes the flick feel different.

[@johncoleman7308]

When I was a teenager I preferred vulcs, mainly vans. But now in my late 20s I appreciate the support and stability of a cupsole and I actually prefer the flick of a cupsole.

[@colinhawks2469]

Another thing to consider is also the quality of vulc because not all vulcs are created equally. The same is true for cupsoles but arguably to a lesser extent. For example, Vans vulc (which gets all floppy rather quickly) vs Nike SB Shane vulc (which holds its form very well and doesn’t get all floppy). Thin and floppy vulc tends to leave feet hurting...lemon drop!

[@reapmo7526]

Vulc sole - heat compressed giving it a very flexible, grippy sole. Have more board feel, easier for tech skaters. Cup sole - cold concrete compressed mold. Gives the sole more structure and impact protection. Great for gnarly gap or big stair set skaters.

[@mic_donalds274]

101 kick flips in dr. Martens 😂

[@Koko-et6rg]

Bruh why does Jake paul have more subs than this dude

[@elcamaleon97]

landing protection coulda been covered too. Landing primo in vulc (vans specifically) is genuinely painful in comparison to cup soles

[@jonathantomas9754]

When you’re to poor to support the patreon lol

[@rickyxricardo]

the Adidas Busenitz vulc 2 are great for heelflips if you like the feeling of vulcs.

[@the_bait_shop]

The biggest difference is a Cup sole shoe is built and can have more padding in the outsole, which makes it more stable protecting your ankle/knee joints, not to mention protecting the small bones and muscles in your feet . A vulc is cooked and the only way to add padding is with an insole and they lack real structure and support. . I've skated on and off over 30 years. Vulc shoes will destroy your feet over time and you end up standing on a thicker insole which isn't good on your arches. Now that is somewhat my opinion. . but my feet at this point can't handle a vulc shoe for more than 1 hour and a cup sole I can skate in all day at 41 years old.

[@jDDignity]

Hey what about a new review about éS Accel Slim (plus) or

[@poopooman6593]

Love the vids, what’s up dude I also just copped the Shane’s

[@christianflores]

thanks man! just working on videos and freelance work. and nice. I liked them

[@philhunnicutt9019]

Oh yeah, and review the Etnies Veer, it's the first cup I've seen on a slip on and I want to know what's up with that.

[@austinshore7538]

vulc shoes are baked in an oven, which makes the rubber compound softer, so the material grips not and feels more broken in off the bat. where cup shoes are not and are given a thicker mid sole most of the time.

[@dexgray4581]

All I know is (and what honestly confuses me most) is that when I went from Nike Bruin SB’s (vulc), to eS accel slims (cupsole)… the NIKE’S HAD INFINITELY BETTER IMPACT SUPPORT with a bouncy rubber outsole and a zoom insole. Maybe the eS shoes are just poorly made now since they’re resurgence, but I couldn’t believe how much pain the accels caused and how thin they were compared to the sole of the Nike bruins. 🤷‍♂️ On a different note, I just wish the Tiago 1010’s had better grip and ball of foot support… because that shoe would be pretty perfect otherwise. And it’s not nearly as bulky as I thought it would be from photos online. PS: Christian PLEASE release your signature insole 🙏 otherwise I may consider the FP insole for whatever next shoe I go for… maybe Etnies marana 🙏

[@PHeMoX]

I love how cupsole shoes provide a lot more comfort and support. I'd probably say I am not a fan of vulc shoes for that reason. But at the same time I can't deny they tend to flick ever so slightly easier. And they're also less durable than the cupsole shoes IMHO. So yeah, that's like 3 pros versus 1 pro basically. Some of the thinner cupsoles shoes, like Adidas Liberty Cup and Adidas 3st.004 still have an amazing flick. The Liberty Cup maybe isn't super durable, but I'd gladly get those shoes again if they wear down. So far my favourite shoes though are the eS Accel OG (probably would love the Accel Slims better, but haven't tried them) and the Etnies Joslin 1 (a bit hit or miss when it comes to the flick if my foot isn't angled properly; ie. takes some getting used to). To be fair though, the eS Accel OG kind of require a more 'brute force' flick if you know what I mean. Something like Vans 112 Pros take much less effort to flip a board with. But to flimsy.

[@heyimchillin4910]

Personally I love Vulcanized shoes for the boardfeel, I don't skate drops often I'm about to get the tyshawns tho. Great vid👍

[@fernandoreyes680]

One of the best shoes of all time no kidding

[@jdmslider]

Hey how were the tyshawns?

[@kev.argueta]

lmao i literally just voted on your story and Instanly got this notification 😂

[@christianflores]

hahah nice.

[@sleezer7]

Yeooo kxv imma a fan of your vids bro ❗️🔥

[@kev.argueta]

@@sleezer7 ayeee that's what's up bro!

[@cheesefanman2391]

Crazy how I'm just finding this channel. Subbed instantly

[@scottlopez9089]

Christian two things. Natural heelfliper here. Just you. Second, glad you did this video was actually thinking of this very question .

[@mnw4766]

What about a review on the lakai Cambridge 😳

[@simongnardner9785]

you should review some DCs og reissue

[@skateshoeguru2799]

If your foot sits higher or lower on a shoe has nothing to do with the shoe being cupsole or vulc.This has to do only with the padding of the sole and the insole. Usually your foot sits lower on vulcs as the sole is made from a thinner layer and usually the insoles are not that thick(there are exceptions of course).For that reason(your foot sitting lower) we say that with vulc we are having better boardfeel. Cupsoles include usually more tech and indeed the foot sits higher than in vulcs.With cups you have better cushion and a bit less boardfeel although nowadays materials have improved a lot. For the flick, in vulcs, due to this extra layer of thermoplastic material, your toes are sitting 2-3 cm back from the edge of the shoe and this can affect your foot positioning when doing flip tricks.With cupsoles, flip tricks are usually more in point as your toes are closer to the edge of the shoe and as a result there is a more accurate flick.

[@bett431]

Cupsoles give companies the option to use basicly every material they want as midsole. For vulcs midsoles exist(ed), but nowadays most companies cheap out on them because the market demands boardfeel anyway.

[@jacobcole2037]

You need to do a review on the (DVS Celsius) I haven’t seen anyone do one on KZbin and I really want to see it👍

[@ab-ue9yx]

I like them both but I usually prefer vulc. Sometimes I get cupsole shoes that I can skate properly right after wearing them first time (like Nike slip-on Janoski which I skated for like 4 months and stopped skating them last weekend and they are awesome), sometimes it takes 2 weeks just for me to get used to them (happens to me with pretty much all the Vans Pro cupsoles). When I get a new pair of Cons 1star or any Lakai vulc I know they are gonna kickflip just the way I like it right out of the box. But hey, I'm old and I skate mostly ledges, flatbars, transitions. If I were 15 years younger and still jumping down stuff that's higher than my waist I d probably go cupsole all the way.

[@zackphy]

Vulc is more flimsy and wears down faster, but feels broken in much faster, and have better board feel. Cupsoles are stiffer and take longer to break in but last longer and are better for large drops.

[@tresfordays9644]

Cupsoles for me. I feel like cupsoles have a more consistent flick and the padding and thickness of the shoe makes me feel more confident on my board. Vulcanized shoes have an amazing flick, but feel like it’s less consistent, but the thinness makes me feel scared to do anything not on flat lol

[@mucho_kenny]

Your foot actually sits higher on a cupsole than vulc. Vulc has literally rubber stacked with insole foam then maybe padding. Vulcanized includes a side wall taping process which requires heat, any inner comfort foam would burn up. Cupsoles have those built in, personal choice🙂. But vulcs for pool skating... Really good

[@davidsalsberry5748]

Rode vans vulcs since 2000 but now at 31 years old, my feet are killed after a sesh. Constant heel bruises/toe bruises and planters problems. Recently picked up those Tiago nm1010s and my feet feel like I’m 16 again

[@davidbullock5870]

Boardfeel- vulcs Flick- vulcs Durability- cups Stability- cups Impact- cups Grip- vulcs Consistency- cups

[@harrizon]

you should do a review on the nike sb adversary premiums !!

[@aaronoyola4993]

I just bought a cup and a Vulc thanks I will see witch one I like better

[@ToAnEnd]

Been skating almost 20 years now (I’m about to turn 26) and I bought my *first* ever pair of Vans to skate in a few months ago, sk8-hi’s! I was super pumped to get ‘em because obviously everyone LOVE vans, but personally I was super disappointed in them and now that they’re falling apart I’m looking for alternatives. Probably another pair of Lakai’s but I’m also looking at Fallen again! I couldn’t put my finger on why I’m so unhappy with the vans until now. I’ve been trying to explain to ppl that I feel like I’m standing on top of the shoe as opposed to in it and I now realize that I’ve skated cupsoles my entire life. They say vulcs have better board feel but only on the top of your foot in my experience, which is not necessarily where I want to be feeling anything 🤦🏻‍♂️ Not only that but my feet are also dead after even just an hour of skating. Not comfortable, not enough feel where I want it, and I also feel that waffle pattern is maybe even TOO sticky for my taste. I do love the classic look of a pair of vans though and they’ll continue to be in my wardrobe, just not for skating. Wish I had videos like this back in the day!

[@sergiochaotik221]

I much prefer flipping with cupsoles, but I find it depends if you like a worn in, non-grippy/slip off the foot style kickflip or a shoe/grip combo that's super sticky.

[@smokescreenskaters205]

Easy adidas city cup. Vulc front from dat flip and cup back for that impact protection

[@santiagoomegna1652]

Cupsole shoes are more durable generally. Although there is some very durable vulc shoes, cupsole is more durable it is generally a thicker shoe

[@Tilly_boufas]

can you please review the vans crockett high pro's next?????????

[@durawya]

0:54 i saw that moving text. im hype!!!

[@cuplaxi]

éS Silo? Such a comfy bastard of a shoe.

[@MANUEL11]

1:06 the energy is unmatched 🔥😂

[@xcharlesbronsonx]

Cupsole all the way. I longboard and consider having a shoe that has arch support and cushioning over board feel. More versatility. And you can wear it for everyday purposes not just skate

[@Lukashtnr]

please can you do a lakai carrol review. love your vids lemondrop

[@fernandoreyes680]

Yoo I really want this one. I love the look of it

[@jamesacottdavies5826]

I personally find cup soles are better for kickflips! Just more of a consistent flick. Plus gives me a little more confidence sending them down stairs.

[@chefketh7258]

vulc shoes have way softer rubber, the softer rubber has a more grippy flick but will wear down faster and be less solid.

[@ZTFlames]

Vulc shoes always have better initiate board feel but cupsole break in much better for it. Heelfips always feel clunky cause of the fox tape and cupsole is always reinforced from the single piece.

[@pearbuns101]

Tyshawns adidas are amazing

[@claysoggyfries]

With cupsole shoes you have less board feel

[@lilpaul_.1328]

“ Best channel in the world... lemon drop!” But fr you are underrated I feel. Keep up the good work

[@eze8024]

Cupsole. Most vulcs feel like dress shoes. No heel or ankle support. Cupsoles feel like actual athletic shoes 🤷‍♂️ Currently skating Vans Kyle Walker lace ups. The wafflecup feels very secure like a cupsole 👍

[@GC-ji3ye]

Lemon. DROP. Man, okay I’m not crazy. I feel like I lose and have to re-find kickflips in cupsole but they are like a heelflip cheat code or hack and vice versa for vulcs. This makes sense. Thanks!

[@user-jl3dg6ue2c]

Pls try cons slip ons and welcome decks

[@jamescargill8758]

I typically enjoy my skating more in cupsoles even tho the flick is better with vulcs. Very particular on cupsoles tho the toe cap for me needs to be nice and narrow or kickflips are wack as hell

[@poulsentyler]

Best channel in the world, lemon drop...

[@sterlingh1256]

Cup soles are the cheat codes of skating

[@lucastafoya8313]

Review the fat globes like the old school ones!!!!

[@Soaring_Tofu]

I like vulc for street and cup for parks

[@liltwigdoog6610]

Ur the best cuz I Watch your shoe reviews before I buy a shoe thanks ur a life saver. If you do the same thing like this

[@joeldodson5238]

Personally cup soles being more sturdy helps with my flick and I don't get heel bruises as much.

[@gbuumklmu]

try skating air force 1’s i see a lot of people using those

[@christianflores]

Ill try some at some point.

[@jorgearguelles2726]

He did

[@asokahanderson122]

I’m skating some rn and they’re not bad. They were weird at first but that’s damn near any skate shoe

[@yolbc]

The outsole is a thicc’n

[@fernandoreyes680]

@@asokahanderson122 Don’t they have like zero board feel? Lol I’ve never skated them but I’ve used them just to walk around and I don’t think I’d enjoy skating them

[@mrmj3]

love kick flips but dunks are my favorite skate shoe

[@lucatjoe]

Boardfeel, I feel like I have better boardfeel with vulc, but then again the only cupsoles I've skated are some thicc DC's from the 90s so that could just be me

[@pierrehintermeister8339]

im skating the kyle walker 2 thats a mix cup and vulc. TBH i dont like them that much, i think im going to switch back to etnies maranas thes are very good cupsoles. Love your videos pls review the joslin vulcs lemon drop

[@isaacguevara6147]

Yoyo love the vids and uh table tile, Chicken Fried Rice, Nike SB Dunks, Tomato, and uhhh lemon drop Also could you do 101 kickflips in some running shoes?

[@c4arnage197]

Best Chanel llemonnn drop😉

[@flowrepeats]

Been skating for about 17 years now, personally I prefer vulc. I just like the board feel and the grip, I’ve wasted money on cupsole shoes for forever hoping they would skate good but I never ended up being able to session them. Not being able to feel the board is one of the worst feeling with a skate shoe

[@flowrepeats]

Also, heelflips do give me issues with vulc but I always thought that was just me

[@DayJawn]

do an Emerica shoe review! ill definitely sub and like every video then. just want to see if they're still solid kicks.

[@linuxjodi4311]

Got an Emerica Romero, they're solid af.. Their designer also did a video bout cupsole vs vulcanised too back then..😂

[@EmKay_24]

In my opinion the heelflip of a vulc shoe is different. Cup is a consistant slow flick and vulc is like a fast but less consistent flick for me.

[@dereksmith9526]

So is the vans Kyle walker a perfect mix since they are the waffle cup sole or whatever it’s called lol a mix of both

[@ishaqismail2975]

is kyle walker pro good or half cab pro, or are these both good?

[@poopooman6593]

My friend had them and they were super good, they lasted him like 3 months, Christian also made a review back on ride channel

[@ishaqismail2975]

@@poopooman6593 ik but it felt sponsored and he didn't say the bad things about them

[@christianflores]

that one is super good. for that reason.

[@ishaqismail2975]

@@christianflores what reason? and which one is good?

[@ishaqismail2975]

@@christianflores like I am a beginner and I want shoes that would help me get rid of the vibration of the board cause I got shitty roads to skate, and which is durable cause I can only get 1 pair of shoes

[@zzaaiidd.]

It’s honestly all up to personal preference. I personally like cupsole more as I feel like my feet are more protected. I’ve tried both and cupsole always wins for me. If anyone is conflicted with cupsole or vulcanized, just try them both. Then boom, now you know what some you like. But Christian? Is the sole really thicker on a cupsole? And is there really more “padding” under your foot with a cupsole or am I just overthinking it?

[@IgiMig1]

Best channel in the world lemme drop

[@rioterism]

Hello Christian, nice video as usual. Please review the Emerica Figgy Dose or another EMERICA shoe - you have been reviewing skate shoes for such a long time and still not a single review on one of the best and truest to skateboarding brands?! Come on!

[@wizard9027]

please do a review video on the louie lopez pro converse cons (the new ones that are about to drop as of the time of me commenting this)

[@jellerer]

can't wait for you to drop those laces man!

[@Budgie-Lovee]

I used a vulc shoe once and it hurts... So only cupsole

[@edoardolucentini858]

Could you review a pair of nike sb dunks if possible? Thanks

[@lordgutterrat9634]

review the off white vulcanized

[@wilfredgarcia927]

Lemon drop. Love the videos man!

[@krisk.2667]

I like Cup way more, it just lasts longer for me and I like being comfy when skating not feeling pain in my feet.

[@mikeygamez1615]

Vulc all day with some Fp insoles is the way to go

[@oisin.l]

Oiii I've been waiting for u to make this video let's goooo

[@christianflores]

making em every week. :)

[@oisin.l]

@@christianflores keep it up man, it's actually disgusting how underrated u are

[@ronniecreager2585]

Can you do a test on which type of shoes are more prone to causing injuries. Like which is easier to sprain your ankle In, cup/Vulc

[@christianflores]

Oh. Vulk I think.

[@ronniecreager2585]

Hah now that I read this again it looks silly. Obv don’t test ankle sprains. I had these cup soles I felt were contributing to my ankle sprains.

[@theodordivljakovic461]

can try try the blonde superstar shoes pl

[@goranshtarbanov3646]

Yo my guy ! Have you skated the Vans Ultrarange I edition ? What Nike model is similar and what from Adidas ?

[@HrahselPete]

Whats the name of the adidas... Looks fresh

[@patrickmanasco8772]

I wanna try cupsole but not sure which, only ever had vans hi

[@brienbeltran8722]

For me heel flips are just easier with a mid or high top vulc just feels a lot lower for me

[@beepovews4392]

lemondrop best channel

[@midnighttoast7158]

Fuck yeah. Mac Miller sample on the intro

[@mezziisgone13]

Heel flips are harder with vulcs cause the heel is less stiff and usually the cuff of a cup sole is higher and thicker

[@godeaterskye]

Im a heelflip guy and I've skated nothing but vulcs until now. Cupsoles are so good I feel like I wasted my youth lol

[@undutifuljet6569]

Plzzz do a review on the adidas matchcourt (the ones with the fat toe cap) plzzzz