WoW Classic Cataclysm 1-80 Review | Is It Good? | Cataclysm Predictions | World of Warcraft

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[@Alexensualtv]

www.twitch.tv/alexensual - Come follow on Twitch! I'll be streaming WoW Classic Cata every day !

[@Lornext]

Before Classic launched, if we had known that this is what it would lead to... We would have laughed and cringed.

[@AdioAurel]

Many ppl dislike Cataclysm because it changed many of the Vanilla zones and there was no return.

[@macmac6064]

Arcane mage just spam arcane blast and be top dps

[@misha.x]

I did everything there was to do in wotlk p1(naxx) and got bored b4 ulduar and quit until now But I used to love rogue in cata so I gonna relive my experience for sure! nice vid btw

[@JFX33]

i like cata more then wotlk. wotlk is boring

[@adammalinowski8651]

Why do you think it's better than wotlk? What is better? (Normal question, no double meanings)

[@JFX33]

hard to say i didnt play wotlk because i played it back then and on some pservers. dungeons in cata are more fun..you acually have to do mechanics of bosses or you die even later in full epic gear. raids are alot more better too... pvp i had more fun playing cata i would say its pretty well balanced pvp+rated bgs the only good part of wotlk for me was story. but other than that nothing else.

[@CyberMonkey03]

I agree with you because going into wrath dungeons after tbc as a tank, it was boring not having to worry about aggro or pulling too many mobs for example

[@chalo3427]

they have FINALLY jjfixed the talent trees in Dragonflight btw they current ones look amazing compared to anything post-cata

[@samuelspeller2641]

Good to see other vanilla wow players not straight up compare cataclysm to dragon flight. Personally for me I enjoyed cataclysm for it's mix of class identity/balance more fun version of wotlk class design but each class doesn't have every defensive/healing capability and cc like in mop

[@Seltheros]

If cataclysm would not have changed the world and kill off the regular talent system I would have surely enjoyed it. Blizzard had the chance with classic to not only revive the old game but improve upon it. Cata classic should have the option to do old content like naxx 40 too if we can already switch between Onyxia versions. Put in timewalking too, don't wait until MoP. Make the Shattering and the New Azeroth lvl 80-85 leveling zones. Replicating everything will just repeat history. I don't say Cataclysm is bad either but it took so much away and given so few that it doesn't worth it for me... :(

[@Alexensualtv]

Huh? The talents are still in cataclysm. Everything you’re missing you can play on classic era

[@Seltheros]

@@Alexensualtv Cataclysm talent system is different. It is a transition between the old and the new that arrived in MoP. The suggestions I provided are not implemented in any "Era" or what people call those ghost towns nowsdays.

[@Alexensualtv]

@@Seltheros you seem to be confused, the talent system in cata is the old talent trees

[@samuelspeller2641]

I could be misremembering or wrong but the cataclysm tree doesn't allow you to spec into other talent trees until you've got the last talent point in the tree? Other than that the talent tree is pretty much the same, you'll have different builds for both PvP and Pve with variations for different stats like crit. I wouldn't compare cataclysm to mop

[@Spaceman69420]

@@Alexensualtv its different bro, its simplified version

[@Atthetta]

Have you tried HC classic yet Alex, what do you think of that?

[@Alexensualtv]

I’m playing that today

[@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155]

I like Cata, the only thing that was a bit too fast for me was leveling TBC Zones. I leveled the first zone a bit, then started to queue instances as healer, 2 min waiting time, and was 69 in a few hours from there. With the quests that you get at the start of every instance now, you fly through the levels. You don't see anything from the TBC anymore including the higher level instances. I used heirlooms though.

[@MetalGearissolid]

Thanks for the insightful video. Assuming classic continues expansion by expansion, what do you think will be most enjoyable expansion after cata?

[@Alexensualtv]

in my opinion, Legion

[@MetalGearissolid]

@@Alexensualtv I loved legion, balance druid was a lot of fun. What spec would you be playing?

[@Alexensualtv]

@@MetalGearissolid in legion I played resto druid and to a degree hunter

[@rb-uu7du]

@@Alexensualtvif they end up going all the way through Legion it would be cool if they did a version with the old character models. New character models and animations are so goofy and cartoonish, especially male humans. It would be a lot of extra work so blizzard certainly wont do it

[@MetalGearissolid]

@@rb-uu7du I'd prefer that. New models and animations look like pixar characters.

[@zaxc8369]

good video

[@Alexensualtv]

thanks man looking forward to playing cata with u guys !

[@zaxc8369]

@@Alexensualtv going to be nice playing laid back with like minded people

[@wym348]

If they dont make heroics pre-nerf they're sabotaging this thing. I'm coming back to push hard on the shit I couldn't do in grade school.

[@silencegaming3227]

Western plaguelands is my favorite zone in the game in cata, same with eastern

[@rubenloza1920]

Let's be real.. cata rage originally was 3 big things.. Terrible timetable release cycle with smaller raids AFTER T11. The "give" you D3 to bait you into a trap... either 6 month or a year-long sub when they knew they weren't releasing any new content. Content difficulty jump that people didn't see coming. Bads were exposed. The GMs girl couldn't hide in a raid anymore. I think these 3 things are mostly solved. Release cycle obviously solved. You won't have the D3 bait. Difficulty.. yeah.. who knows at this point. Nerfed states and generally better more informed players help it.. but yeah, we don't know about this last one.

[@windblownleaf6450]

So weird to me that cata is considered classic. I guess there's an argument to be made for it, but honestly, this is the most recent expac I'd give that title to. Really, the original 3 are the only ones that fit the title. The idea of MoP classic honestly makes me cringe. Like, where does it stop? Are we going to see Shadowlands 'classic' one of these days?

[@Upright1337]

I believe that Cata is better than Wrath too, though thats not a very high bar. Of course heroics wont be pre nerf with the modern community hahaha.

[@xClyptox]

Too many of us are tainted from the original timeline. I also got an email showing a free weekend for Cata tryout - login and see my server was dead dead. Server list showed locked and found out there are active open transfers to only 3 servers for both PVE/PVP... Wotlk had serious drop off and it doesnt look like Cata is bringing them back. I would say while the game isnt as good with Wotlk/Cata and beyond - the damn botting/gdkp and toxic community are probably more to blame for the huge drop off. I think people only came back for Wraith because they thought maybe they didnt give it a fair shake like myself but ended up realizing that it was indeed the turning point along side the current community - Cata wont get that same treatment imo. Could be wrong but I think the silent majority probably shares that view and wont give Cata a 2nd chance to change their old viewpoint.

[@Blubking1]

Main issue for the heavy drop off is ICC lasting 8 months, 6 of them with 30%. But your analysis isn’t far off. The toxic gdkp & speedrunners makes it unbearable. If you didn’t play since the release of ICC you couldn’t join any serious guild because of lack of gear (they want to speedrun). And gdkp… lets not talk about that. Items still being sold over 200k

[@JohanSven42069]

After leveling from 1-80 in Cata, I don't see myself ever doing it again. I can see why Blizzard did not make fresh servers.

[@JohnBrowning-cc8hm]

1 to 80 in Cata isn't the same as 1-60 in Vanilla.

[@slayrx]

It depends, pve content is okay I guess, Warrior changes made me dislike cataclysm. No armorpen, low crit, charge / intercept synergy gone. I was expecting that Blizzard would adress a lot of the issues, but its the same cata from 2010.

[@blacklotus8222]

People cry about "the old zones" so much, but when I leveled 1-80 in wotlk everyone was just spamming dungeon finder wearing heirlooms and zones were completely empty. So I don't see why people hypocritically put the "old zones" argument every time discussion of cata happens since they were abandoned in wotlk already

[@fersan92]

Cataclysm is a nice change until it’s time to go back to vanilla

[@HardyRuels]

God i hate the zoomies....

[@belstar1128]

cata is not for me i don't want to reach max level quickly and do dungeons all the time i really disliked it at the time i wont tell my wow story again but its just not good and part of bad trends from 2010 that affected all mmos. there was a certain group of players that enjoyed it that was just into doing battle grounds and arena and nothing else and the raiding community maybe. but i enjoyed wow for the world design and when i played cata or post cata wow it just seemed like it was neutered. i like to compare it with going to the roman empire vs going to Rome today .you are just quickly going around the city on a bus looking at the cool ruins with people explaining how this place used to be important or it used to be epic but now its not really important all the new important stuff is happening in another place .a better comparison is maybe like a ussr museum or something else people can remember because its supposed to be nostalgic to people who were playing wow before 2010 .but to new players it feels like they came late to the party .

[@toddlertoddstein4598]

Alex sold out to Reebok... what a shill. Probably part of some Blizzard/Reebok partnership to sell custom Cataclysm sneakers and Cata gym apparel. /s

[@justinb8297]

The faction imbalance is going to be so bad.

[@ftur.4139]

I dislike Cata over WotLK because of the change in style, it's just not as Warcraft anymore. Cata has some good things though like the first tier of raids and dungeons, they are great but after the first tier the expansion totally flops and new extremely shitty content is introduced like the Deathwing raid, that green Jesus thing and LFR. So WotLK > Cata to me.

[@mantup6921]

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