WoW FINALLY Gets It's Baddies RIGHT! Secrets of the Reach Cinematic Analysis

World of Warcraft Dragonflight Patch 10.1 Embers of Neltharion is on it's way to the PTR today and we have a new cinematic - Secrets of the Reach - which focusses on the Primal Incarnates and their quest to find Neltharion's secret Laboratory, Abberus. The Sundered Flame are also on the case, but the biggest headline is the Primal VISAGE FORMS. What (or who) are they based on? What do they mean? And have Iridikron, Vyranoth and Fyrakk solved Blizzard's Big Baddy problem? Join Taliesin for a deep dive cinematic analysis of Secrets of the Reach
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[@Omentoki]

I appreciate how Iridikron actually takes the Heroes of Azeroth seriously. Most of the big baddies just shrug us off like no big deal, until it’s too late.

[@ChrisBear1989]

Bonus points to Blizz for them to mention it again cause we are...seasoned dragonslayers :P

[@brunohommerding3416]

Yesss i loved that. Im honestly tired of villains always overestimating themselves when facing heroes who defeated literal titans and demon lords. Iridikron is giving me a far more calculating vibe and i love it

[@SeJoHu]

It might be because WE beat up Raszageth while the dragons were... moral support?

[@morgansheppard8215]

I know it wont be the case with him but i've always wanted a raid boss who is just like completely scared of use. like he starts taking more drastic and drastic actions out of fear as we storm his castle.

[@carlybrown3263]

"piTiFUL MoRtALs"

[@brunohommerding3416]

The best part of this is Iridikron being calculating and careful with his aproach in regards to us heroes, he doesnt smile, he doestnt cackle maniacally and even point to Fyrakk that acting reckless would be foolish. If they keep this up he has the potential for being one of the most memorable villains in wow. Im tired of arrogant and overcomfident villains that lose because they ignore the threat we pose.

[@slymcfly123]

Big facts

[@dtulip1]

Always more scary when the baddy appreciates the "enemy"...it means they are prepared

[@Kylora2112]

There is nothing scarier than a demigod who treats every threat as an actual threat and prepares for it.

[@Gcsmith12]

I don't mind it in some cases. The jailer being a cosmic big bad should be arrogant in belief that mortals (something he was created to judge) are beneath him, but it is refreshing to have a villain who is more grounded in power realizing the threat we pose.

[@ZuhexEntertainment]

@@Gcsmith12 unintentional "grounded" iridikron pun xd

[@AramisRamirez1]

4:59 “Is it…the aspects?” …. I’m so glad I’m not the only one who got pure joy with that line delivery 😂😂😂

[@Calathil]

Same, it just hit so well. Give that man the $10,000

[@BrendanZanitCoen]

So fkn good. Let me befriend this man

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

It reminds me of Star Trek TNG camp

[@sy-ky_buddy4603]

Same!!! I popped so big for that line

[@RakaelWhispers]

Iridikron and Fyrakk give off Megatron and Starscream vibes from the newer animated series to me. That aside, absolute joy to see the big baddies take on humanoid visages. Totally wasn't expected, but fantastic to see.

[@tugglesthe1st85]

hehe, glad you mentioned that... first thought was 'Starscream"

[@SeJoHu]

I look forward to the next cinematic 30 seconds after this one concludes, where Dezrin has to follow the Incarnates on foot because he can only flap once every three minutes.

[@laurennightingale4752]

fingers crossed they add full flight to dracthyr sooooon

[@schippes24]

Fyrakk just screams Davy Jones for me. The way he moves his face and makes these slight stops in movement and then looks sideway.. I love it!

[@oshkoshbjosh]

You should do an Art Contest where people imagine what Raszageth's visage form looked like! I'd be on board with that 100%

[@TaliesinEvitel]

I think we will!

[@sylvieandalucia8766]

@@TaliesinEvitel Please do because I started sketching already!

[@lycos94]

blizz needs to make a flackback cinematic around the incarnates, just so we can see razageth's visage

[@jeremiahbrownlee2299]

I really appreciated that for the first time ever, we are not "insects that could be swatted away without a thought" and that we're actually perceived as a threat. They're vying for supremacy instead of just being supreme. It makes the struggle so much more believable and alive.

[@Omentoki]

Already love these 3 way more than the Jailor. They’re badass.

[@monkeysk8er33]

Ew, what a dumb opinion. Objectively wrong. Can you people stop with the hot takes? Zovaal (or The Primus if you truly mean the puppetmaster behind it all) is fucking phenomenal. I get it, you don't understand the complexity of a single character being responsible for so many things, but these Incarnates haven't done shit. They're failures all around, and they'll also die as failures. They'll never accomplish anything.

[@_argent]

Really thought Tali would describe Iridikron as... well-grounded, down to earth kind of guy

[@Thromash]

Fyrakk is precious & must join us. His body movements while talking remind me of Bill Nighy as Davy Jones & I now need this in WoW. I love it so much.

[@Deckard0102]

I like how Iridikron emphasizes the sentence "The laboratory itself is of no consequence. But the molten fire that powers it... THAT we can use." He's not saying they desperately need it for the big maniacal scheme's endgame. It's more along the lines of "oh yeah, we good, we're plenty strong. But why stop there when we can be even stronger?"

[@drwex]

I think that awkward upside-down shot of them going through the doorway is supposed to be us seeing from the spies' point of view to remind us that they're still watching even though we don't see them as the next scenes focus entirely on the big baddies.

[@laurennightingale4752]

and to show off iridi's awesome wing spine cloak thing from above

[@alexanderrudavka700]

This is honestly a next level cinematic. They manage to show us so much, I'm also blown away by the quality. Stuff like this really makes me hyped up for the next patch

[@Deepz4242]

YAS! My favorite part of new WoW content is seeing Taliesin & Evitel get excited and explain it to me!

[@EvilRobotSteve]

It's probably the 80's kid in me, but I get a real Decepticons vibe from these guys. Iridikron is Megatron obviously, with Fyrakk being the scheming malevolent Starscream and Vyranoth is the cold analytical Soundwave. Whether it's remotely intentional, or just the way my brain is choosing to interpret these guys, I dig it.

[@Queldonus]

I can see that now, and I like them even more for this.

[@morcinnafirecaster683]

Having 3 makes it so much easier to flesh them out. You can have them interact naturally and see who they are instead of relying on villianous monoloques and what others are saying about them.

[@crogdan6796]

and though its a shame we wont see any present day interactions with them and razs, theres a lot of good characterization to be had for them with how they react to her death

[@ArcaneEther]

One thing you didn't mention: this is the first time we've seen Protodrakes in Visage forms. Up until now, we've been under the impression that Visage magic was a gift from the Titans to the Flights. That is evidently not the case anymore - another lie of the Titans?

[@austinhawkins3307]

Very likely. I mean, we were also told that part of the reason why the aspects were uplifted was that they had the "spark of intelligence" that the other protodrakes lacked. We've now seen several talking protodrakes, so that was also a lie. I'm also curious about something: Is the term Protodrake perhaps a subtle way the dragonflights/aspects tries to make themselves seem "greater" than? Like, it's kind of like calling a Neanderthal a caveman?

[@kayschut9327]

I do believe that the primal proto dragons are considered elementals right? Would be safe to assume that very powerful elementals have a way to reshape themselves.

[@beastmaster0934]

@@kayschut9327 So perhaps the Elemental lords could do something similar?

[@Levitiy]

@@kayschut9327 I tend to agree. The visages are not arcane illusions. It's just them tucking their wings, tightly. Since they are pure elements they can contort the earth, ice, and fire into different shapes.

[@Queldonus]

I hope that the Sundered Flame get a lot of story time. The Dracthyr are a race that was literally created to be soldiers. Their awoke to see their leader and father figure dead, his legacy tainted, and their unity shattered by his actions and their newfound free will. Some stayed to try and recover their home and restore what they had, some have found new purpose (with the horde/alliance or otherwise) and some are struggling to adapt. Everyone has to deal with change and loss in their life. There is a huge opportunity to make their story relatable, and I hope it’s not wasted.

[@beccamaroney3782]

It sadly did get wasted somewhat. I totally agree they should have a lot of story time.

[@backtrakk2121]

Fyrakk with the fire horns looks savage as hell =D also Aberrations are what Nelth was known for, in both raids he has rooms full of experiments, so its very possible to see him return as a mutated, twisted angry aberration of his former self...would also allow the old gods corruption to "seep out" when we kill him for the third time

[@NoEnvyNoFear1]

At first I was very confused at Vyranoth looking like the Winter Queen, because it also sounds like the same voice actor, but I love the implications suggested by Tali here! Why tho? It's not the devs being lazy or copying, it has to have a purpose! But why and how would the primalists know of the Shadowlands? Was the deals Iridikron made with the Jailor perhaps? I feel like every cinematic turns up with more questions than answers and I love it!

[@ChelseaCHICKAPOW]

I love hearing your theories and opinions, it really opens up conversation. Initially, I wanted to be upset that Vyranoth looked so much like the Winter Queen, I was upset at how unoriginal her design seemed to be...but I would have never thought that maybe she took on that very similar visage for a reason. Which ultimately gave me some hope. So thank you

[@matthewwhittall1205]

The Inkarnates suddenly give me Bionicle vibes. Just seeing their Visage forms and the way they interact, mad Bionicle vibes.

[@Lupinemancer87]

Just as I was thinking, there is no way these three will have humanoid forms cocsidering their distain for mortals and Dragons in general, Blizz shows me I'm wrong. They look badass as hell, and now I wish to know what Raszageth's form looked like. No, I demand to know.

[@latedala07]

The character design really is gorgeous and unique, I love them. Def also hoping we'll see Raszageth and Alexstrasza in their humanoid forms in a flashback or something too!

[@mattwo7]

I mean you're not entirely wrong, they look more like elementals. Unless elementals are mortals?

[@Thomason1984]

Hopefully They do a flashback with Raszageth in her Visage form

[@tiyangina3571]

@@mattwo7 elementals are mortal, but ageless. They just exist on their world and manifest out of the primal energies of the world. And when they get killed, they become energy again. For all we know, the elementals were on Azeroth *before anyone else, ever*. Then the old gods came around to visit and.. well, chronicles I happened

[@froggyslice6943]

That's exactly what happened. Even before chronicle it is established that the elementals were there first. Then the old gods showed up and enslaved them

[@dt3963]

I love Tali’s nerdy deep dive cinematic break downs. They always make for a good lunch break

[@trevoris18]

Theoretically it'd be so rad if for one the final raid bosses it was like a 20 man comp stomp but tuned way up. Iridikron just straight recruits his own raid to take on ours. It'd probably be impossible to balance but imagining guilds subbing in PvP players in the race to world first sounds crazy cool.

[@Lorentari]

I like the imagery of "Embers": Something that can easily be extinguished, but also something that can easily start an out-of-control mass destructing inferno

[@sensennsen]

Iridikron is a well-introduced villain, first he is introduced to be jailed with his siblings, next is that he proceeds to create a careful plan and not underestimating his enemies.

[@TamraHeathershawHart]

In Shadowlands Arthras turned into a tiny blue spark and faded out completely. I personally see the word "Embers" as hinting this is a mirror to that ending, with the last (purple?) spark of Neltharion's energy fading into nothing. But also, what follows an ember in a (real life) fire? Ash follows. (Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.) And there's this little sword called Ashbringer....

[@monkiy1300]

Tali really found a way to fit the line, "coming thick and fast," into the script.

[@Maljurok]

Neltharion may not be forgiven for his actions, but this patch would make for a good way for the other Apects to fully understand him and truly mourn the lose of their dear friend, acknowledging what Wrathion always thought, that the old gods killed his father. With whatever he kept from them down here, it could provide a proper catalyst for the remaining aspects to forge their own paths away from the titans and truly guard the world side by side with the other races as equals rather than being above the other races. While Embers of Neltharion makes for a great way to put Neltharion to rest, It would also be awesome if the old gods did bring Deathwing Amalgamate and Galakrond back in order to put them to rest as well. Frankly I can see the two of them being involved in the very last patch with Iridikron.

[@Artosk]

I kind of feel like we're not gonna kill ice lady, we kill fire boy and a betrayal by rock guy is revealed and even if she doesn't like the aspects they come to some common understanding

[@blairewhiteradicalextremis7765]

I hope not

[@kayschut9327]

I get the feeling we aren't going to be killing Vyranoth. After we kill Fyrakk and Iridikron shows his true colours, she will likely bargain for her life in some way. She seems cold (obviously) and calculating, and will probably see that she isn't going to win.

[@Queldonus]

I almost hope she discovers Iridicron’s true motives (and possibly other allies) and switches sides. It would also be a great twist to the Aspects story, for them to not just accept her surrender and negotiations, but treat her as an equal and rebuild trust. I can see Alextraza saying something like “We all were deceived. We all wronged each other, and were wronged by those we trusted. Only together can we put things right “

[@cthylla5197]

I can definitely see her as the one baddie that “doesn’t want to waste her time” with us with how indifferent she behaves with just the stone golem guards. Reminds me of any boss who is more inconvenienced by us invading their area of power rather than excited to kill us. Rather than bargain, just casually leave us with some frosty boys she summons and vanish for two expansions until she’s relevant to the story again somehow as some people tend to do. Which makes me wonder when Azshara is going to make her debut this expansion. She got her break.

[@kayschut9327]

@@Queldonus Dragonflight is an expansion where I actually feel like the bad guys have a point, they just go about it all wrong. They were treated horribly, and in turn have treated others horribly. I don't think she will switch sides, at that point we will have already killed someone she viewed as a younger sister (or actual sister, I dunno actually) and presumably a younger? brother. not to mention she will probably do some pretty awful things before the turning point, don't see any aspect other than maybe Alexstrasza take her 'back'.

[@kayschut9327]

@@cthylla5197 Other than believing in the ideals of her siblings, I don't feel like she has a lot of motivation to fight. She comes across as the more academic of the Incarnates.

[@vilgus7484]

I'm hoping we get a 10.2 final raid boss of the three of them. At the end Fyrakk is hurt the most and Iridikrom ends up heartlessly devouring his brother to reempower himself to escape. Vyranoth is unsettled and retaliates against him only to be doused in magma from Iridikrom gaining the power of fire. He then devours Vyranoth and he flys off. Basically following in galakrond's footsteps be begins consuming dragons and primalists alike across the isles.

[@Ryquard1]

i love how they show the pure raw power the incarnates have, if someone from the outside watch the cinematic without knowing anything about the game, they will easyly know the incarnates are the baddies, they are super strong and their theme is pretty clear, also the cinematic portraits the Sundered Flame like the heroes, whom lands have been taken from them. With shadowlands while it was obvious the Jailer was the baddie, his motives were blurred, we never had any insight in what happened before he was banished and also his powers were never his own, Domination was not his original gimmick, we never saw what he was like as the Arbiter, we knew what Sylvannas wanted, we knew why she wanted it, meanwhile the Jailer felt like a huge deux ex to explain other stuff in the WoW universe which frankly ruined so many stories, and if it was true, then we never saw his supposed master plan, just a poor execution

[@AlarahCA]

I like these villains enough to hope that actually we don't kill them off in this expansion and they can come back in a future storyline

[@lazybeaver2028]

Even before the release of Dragonflight I created a Primalist based character who served Fyrakk. We had not even seen the king yet, but his name told me what I needed to know.

[@Argentrose]

I love these deep dives you do. I know I'm late to the party, but your intelligent commentary is much-loved. And your enthusiasm and love for the game are obvious (and infectious). Thank you so much for doing these, Tali. You and Evi are amazing.

[@dinhoX360]

Man, i have missed your video analysis so much. Awesome job as usual!

[@matimusmaximus]

I love when you make these videos! I will say, 10 1 feels like an rock patch more than a fire patch to me. I'm so excited that we're going underground!

[@redlady37]

i always enjoy your deep dives. 😛 You act as our translator for a language we didn't know we didn't understand and i truly appreciate it. A big thanks from me. 😁

[@applesauce4389]

Fun fact, the voice actor for Sarkareth is Taliesin Jaffe.

[@hadester]

Such a great video! I'm just getting into the lore more and this hyped me up so much. Cheers!!

[@starzman2003]

Great breakdown as always T&E. Love these full dives.

[@roycel3929]

I hope blizzard pulls a Denathrius with the incarnates and keeps them around especially Fyrakk and Iridikron. Loving the build up. They are becoming my favorite villains in WoW, up there with Garrosh. (Not quite yet, but getting close) I predict that the ice dragon will turn on Iridikron after finding he has been keeping secrets but he destroys her with ease. Maybe even devours her and becomes more like Galakrond?

[@kayschut9327]

I think Fyrakk won't be around for long, he seems too maniacal and trigger-happy for that. I think that Vyranoth will probably be the only incarnate to survive the expansion, and that she will 'defect' together with the remainder of the primalist forces after Iridikron shows just how insane he is. Sort of a: if you leave me alone, I leave you alone kind of thing.

[@H-3X35]

If Fyrakk is a boss in a mega dungeon, I don't think he'll be killed off cause y'know... it's a mega dungeon... so 10.2 could have the final raid boss be both Vyranoth and Fyrakk.

[@AllistorRichards]

Hilariously Vironoth’s design actually felt more Shiva Final Fantasy when I first saw her (and that’s a good thing,) and Vyrakk felt very Ifrit like, but also only in such a way their designs felt inspired by whilst standing out all their own. Also the entire cinematic have off skylander’s animation vibes to me with said designs which felt pretty rad.

[@Aureora]

Each time I watch your cinematic analysis, i have the impression that you are getting written explanations straight from Blizzard itself. They are so detailed and accurate, beautiful work man, i love it 💚

[@Wyrmshield]

These guys are so damn cool! This little cutscene alone makes them so much cooler than the Jailor ever was

[@THEpetestephen]

You're definitely right about Fyrakk's greatness

[@Kalibby22]

Taliesin Jaffe's ever so slightly lizardy slow speech, is just perfect!

[@samuelhellewell2880]

16:25 granted, it may be me looking for hints where hints don’t exist, but something about iridicron’s face and voice with the music, kinda makes it seem like, he might have a slight, fascination with the lab? Like there’s something about it that speaks to him, more than just the reason he gives the other incarnates. Idk, maybe I’m just dumb but it’s fun to speculate

[@Rizerr96]

I wonder if Alexstrasza's comment about the other incarnates not knowing the dark bargains Iridikron has made will be of any consequence to the incarnates themselves. Fyrakk is a lost cause of course- he just wants to cause mayhem. But I wonder if Vyranoth might end up maybe as an anti villain that in some way helps end Iridikron's plans. Although, Blizzard did try this bit with Shadowlands and Sylvanas, so I'm not sure.

[@Kathkira]

Vyranoth also looks a bit like the Naga as seen in the Azshara Warbringers cinematic

[@yanomamo89]

I think its funny how only after killing SEVERAL God-like beings are we, the players, finally considered a threat as opposed to just killing ONE lol

[@sy-ky_buddy4603]

Now THIS is how you make villains interesting... Hope they stay around for awhile

[@artimusofthemoon2419]

I know it might be a farfetched idea but im kindof hoping to have Vyranoth actually come to our side. I say her bc of all of them she seems to have primarily been close to her sister and was fighting for her rather than really caring about what the remaining other two seem to be desiring. it also makes sense bc based on the way they are showing her character she sounds like someone who would be willing to listen before destroying us if we found out what Iridikron is up to.

[@flo.ram13ll]

simply awesome! so excited!

[@pietrosalvagno4307]

I think is no coincidence that we see the Primal Incarnates mirrored on the deep purple colored eye of Sarkareth. That color immediately reminded me that Neltharion's legacy may include his Void corruption as well, and if that is the case the entire Dracthyr race is living through this conflict with some extent of voidy influence. The scene is not a proof of course, but the ambiguity is something that has been deliberately set I believe. Great cinemtic analysis as usual, this kind of videos are those that I enjoy the most ;)

[@koletonnelson6310]

Not only that; in the Waking Shore, there’s a questline in a ruin where the Sundered Flame are gathering artifacts, and they’ve all fallen under Old God domination. If you do the chain as a dracthyr, there’s an extra quest or two where a blood elf makes you purposely get addicted to arcane magic, because the cravings will block out the whispers-showing that *all dracthyr are susceptible to the Old Gods*.

[@rosenrot234]

15:10 I got a more Shara Ishvalda vibe from Monster Hunter with Iridikron's powers. Making the earth move with vibrations

[@SeJoHu]

I look forward to Iridikron's unavoidable raid mechanic "Bass Drop"

[@rosenrot234]

@@SeJoHu Iridikron's neighbors always be listening to really loud drum and bass. Whether they like it or not

[@lukelorianTRON]

Honestly, this cinematic is exactly the type of thing that was missing with all the villains and I think the new patch cadence will make it better. I really hope this new patch cadence can lend credence to better story telling in general. Good start though and I look forward to more.

[@mattwo7]

8:10 Yea, I noticed that too, I wonder why.

[@cephas.i]

Iridikron gave me some real Black Adam vibes, like when he first appeared in the movie. (He can even make those yellow lightnings xD) I hope there will be a scene, where he just casually rips through everyone and everything, without breaking a sweat. It would be really cool, if we would finally get a villain that feels completely unstoppable. Imagine a raid where you fight him to like 90% of health and he just casually says: "Ok, I'm bored with you peasents! Peace out." Kills everyone and flys away. The only problem is, I think this would feel a bit weird, since we just demolished the Jailer, who technically should be way more powerful than a dragon...

[@sarahmeeks8551]

the way fire guy's face/mouth moves reminds me of megatron!

[@amalthea924711]

I think Emby is gonna be key in this expansion. It's literally called "Emberthall's Neltharion"

[@rkramer5629]

10:30 ***Leavin me hanging at Iridikron!? " ... and down-to-earth."

[@Domdrok]

Thanks, Nobbel!

[@OverlordFlinx]

It's refreshing to face down opponents that are essentially on the same playing field as us. Yes, they are each measured to be as powerful as the current de-powered aspects--maybe even stronger; but that's still not nearly as strong as some of the threats we've faced before. But they make up for that by being smart and planning out their moves. They outright say "they killed our sister, and we need to settle the score on that, but she started a fight she wasn't going to win and we need to be smarter than that". The three are all fairly distinct from one another, and they each offer a unique input to their situation. I look forward to seeing them more.

[@dgthunderer]

11:10 I felt like this odd angle implied that the dracthyr were spying from above the entrance.

[@carlybrown3263]

I think we have a pretty good chance of seeing Wrathion use his visage in combat bc he did that while fighting N'zoth!! That cinematic was dope!!! It would be really cool to see that kind of fighting style used by other dragons 👀

[@TheSlemdog]

They look awesome!

[@rosenrot234]

Still curious about Razzy and the fact she never showed up in a visage like her siblings. Now the easy answer could be blizz knew she wouldn't be in one for any of her scenes so they skipped making it. But she's also the youngest out of the group. So what if she was just so much younger that she didn't have the incarnate version of a Visage Day yet?

[@TheRealAb216]

Still may see a version of it because I believe she will be resurrected later in the expansion using what they find in dethwings lab.

[@kayschut9327]

We don't really see Raszageth all that much anyway, and it's usually in spaces that are large enough to fit her dragon form. She does have a visage form I would think, no way she could fit through the whole she punched in the Vault of the Incarnates in her dragon form. Even in this cinematic the Incarnates only reshape their bodies so that can fit inside the structure.

[@H-3X35]

Good theory, but it falls apart if you take note that these are the four original incarnates, so they would've gotten the same power at relatively the same time.

[@rosenrot234]

@@H-3X35 True. She could have just been part of a later batch of eggs so she'd be younger than the rest. Even if they likely got their powers at the same time. Its possible she could have just been a later generation that was young when she got her powers

[@TheSilverwing999]

Nah, you dont understand how far in advance they plan all this stuff including how many months a cinematic takes to make. They knew about the visage forms being a thing way in advance. The reason raz didn't get one is because all she did was flying around and wreck havoc. Why would she need to transform in any scene that we saw of her? And also because they clearly decided that the wow factor of revealing visage forms should be in this cinematic to be extra cool

[@mattcler7849]

No one really knows this because people didn’t really play HoTS (Heroes of the Storm) But i’m really glad they gave Iridukron the same voice as Deathwing in HoTS. It’s by far the best one out of all the Deathwing voice variations

[@forrest3867]

Fyrakk IS Dr. Nefarious from Ratchet and Clank, and you can't tell me otherwise. Also- this is the Red Lotus from The Legend of Korra all over again- one over-zealous wind/storm based member seeks to unleash her other imprisoned, elemental siblings? These are the best villains Blizzard has ever introduced- and they need to do multi-villains like this again.

[@marvelfan281]

I love the Incarnates. I desperately need to see a battle between the Aspects and the Incarnates.

[@902100101]

I'm probably jumping the shark so hard here, but I have a feeling that the "fire powering the forge" will be Galakrond's heart or some piece of him that is essentially burning with a rage, hatred, vitreal (for the aspects) so hard that it is almost acting as a everburning forge fire.

[@majestyc0359]

I have a theory that the "molten fire" is actually tied to Azeroth the Titan, like a form of azerite.

[@SeJoHu]

Don't worry, we'll get to see Raszageth's undead visage form after Galakrond eats her corpse and spits her out.

[@gabrielbelinazo4566]

I love these vids... so fun to find people that like to overthink everything like me :D

[@Arrowshift]

Iridikron's voice actor is also the VA for Deathwing in Heroes of the Storm. I liked that.

[@influx8450]

Gotta love villains who use puns

[@ryanmckannan2134]

Definitely Mercer as our fiery incarnate. I'm excited for this patch, and resubscribing as we speak.

[@wilbalt7206]

Dragonflight and it's story really makes me feel excited about WoW again.

[@mrpibb220]

Very Pog and Cool!

[@Wildchildinc]

These forms are so dope! For some reason, they reminded me of Bionicle.

[@arbenzotaj8342]

vyranoth is also can control water and ice as the primal incarnate of water.

[@annie-kimbrais1847]

13:34 "As they enter, of course the Vault defenses activate . And of course, this is Dragonflight, so that obviously means swirlies on the floor that you have to stay out of." That made me laugh much harder than it had any right to xD

[@TheToneBender]

Would love the frost one figure out that earth boi is keeping secrets and will turn away from him. Maybe not becoming a goodie, but also stop being a baddie

[@Evilshtt353]

The fire dude is indeed Matt Mercer.

[@gigi3242]

So, what happened to the third sundered flame person? Conspicuously missing after they ran to hide. Vyranoth may be cold, but she is sad about the passing of her sister, there's some sort of heart beating within her. Thanks for the video.

[@JoelMcVeagh]

Fyrakk looks like Groot on fire

[@Bastispark]

Fire boi has the horns of sageras and earthboi looks like the past leader of maldraxxus

[@stormstrider1990]

I like how the Sundered Flame - despite being against the Aspects - are not allied with the Primalists (honestly the Primalists would view ALL Dracthyr as aberrations). They're doing their own thing, which (unfortunately) happens to bring them to conflict with us. They want to keep Neltharion's laboratory from the Primalists (which is good), but they're doing it for selfish reasons (which is kinda bad) , and since we're fighting them in the next raid, WE might need whatever secrets that laboratory is hiding, to defeat the Primalists. But I really like what they've done with the Primal Incarnates as characters. Their visages look cool, their personalities are distinct, and they're already proving to be more interesting villains than the Jailer ever was. Sure, he was the mastermind behind nearly 20 years of lore (according to the new lore), and he was pure evil, but that's not enough to make a compelling villain. But each of the Incarnates have an aspect I really like: Vyranoth has the coolest (pun intended) design, Iridicron has the brains, and Fyrakk is voiced by Matthew Mercer, the voice of Jotaro Kujo from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Trafalgar Law from One Piece, two of the most beloved anime characters! What's not to love? 10.7 onward will be great!

[@SuperGamefreak18]

Iridikron reminds me of the old big bads strong and threatening while showing why he’s threatening not telling like grey mr clean.

[@SlowBrother]

thanks for the analysis, but there is no link in the description tho

[@003darkwing]

I will say as for Fyrakk’s visage form, to me it looks to be inspired largely by the tarasek. The stature, the tail, the lizard-like appearance overall. Maybe he respects them?

[@Dannihilate]

I remember you giving your chat shit when they suggested that the Incarnates had visage forms. Well, who's got egg on their face now! No one, that's who, because these forms are too badass looking.

[@sheepalot9924]

I'm sure they'll have to hit three incarnates, the infinite dragon storyline and a 5th old god, all of whom would best work as end bosses, so i'm a bit nervous how we'll fit all of them into what i assume is 3 raids and a megadungeon to go... Although i do trust them to pull it off, which is new.

[@williampaulsinghharika2627]

I think infinite dragonflight and old God we will see only starting and leading into the next expansion.

[@duncmanxxx]

Fyrakk looks like Hakkar the Houndmaster too

[@loganlaslo2098]

I got the vibe of a sith lord or a Darth from SWTOR from Iridikron, literally badass. Fyrakk has a badass design but the literal earth incarnate is a walking sith lord is just next level.

[@nunyabusinesss1476]

Fyrakk reminds me of Star Scream from the Various Transformers cartoons lol.