Wow! Signal Updates: Search Using SETI Telescopes Explores Sun Like Stars

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[@wolver73]

I heard they got the same signal in Australia, except it was MOM.

[@carljacobs1837]

Nice,

[@jimmyzhao2673]

Boo

[@ginnyjollykidd]

😂😂😂

[@juancollazo175]

Dad joke of the day🤣🤣🤣

[@crnocommentary]

Lmao that's corny but kinda funny af

[@TheExoplanetsChannel]

Great video. Thank you for mentioning me in it!

[@CosmicShieldMaiden]

Hello fellow nerds 🖖

[@JohnDoe-qz1ql]

👽🤟

[@alterego2421]

🗿

[@johntabner9346]

Nerd nerd is the word

[@dinglemccrinkleberry2463]

Yoo

[@Just-a-guy926]

Hello wonderful person!😊

[@lebronzejames]

Cant believe Antons over a mil these days I remember sub 10k subscribers lol no one deserved not only this but much more than Anton

[@doubletrouble2022]

Why do scientist assume the Wow signal should repeat if it was sent by ETs? When humans sent out the Arecibo message, we sent it once. It didn't repeat. Why should we assume ETs will do it differently?

[@Vixus]

I fall asleep to your stuff every night and then watch it again in the morning with breakfast. ❤️

[@deantheot7296]

Thank you, Mr. Petrov. Always fun to hear about SETI and the WOW. Take care.

[@danielalexander799]

Don't forget to mention the inverse square law: radio signals from intelligent life on a distant planet would quickly dissipate into the background noise of empty space. It is impossible for us to detect such a signal.

[@Boogaboioringale]

Exactly. Any signal would have to be extremely intense to have a chance to reach earth

[@bosshog8844]

Lasers.

[@MiltonRoe]

"Impossible" is going a bit too far. Clearly, any physicist or astronomer involved in SETI is capable of doing the math to determine how strong a signal from another system or galaxy would need to be to be detectable by the time it reaches us. And they persist in their efforts, suggesting that it is entirely possible. Certainly, it would require an extremely powerful signal if it originated in a distant galaxy. Some Fermi Paradox solutions involve the idea that it's just not a high priority for distant civilizations to send out signals and the budget for such projects is hard to come by.

[@cmflyer]

Yeah, focused beams like from parabolic dishes don't follow the inverse-square law.

[@Boogaboioringale]

@@cmflyer : I think a parabolic dish capable of focusing a beam to reach earth would have to be a light year across from even 100 light years away

[@dancallahan4183]

Ah the Big Ear - I went by there when I was going to Cleveland a couple of years ago. The site is now a giant pond on a golf course driving range. Nice to know that something that once caught wayward data from space now catches wayward drives on the 10th hole....

[@bobnolin9155]

Kind of sad, actually...

[@raw7504]

That sucks…

[@riggersHDFTW]

You are awesome Anton !!!

[@bryduhbikeguy]

They've decoded the signal and it's as follows,"The warranty on your Moon is about to expire.Please contact our service department to extend services"...

[@swissbiggy]

You remain the best out there Anton, even after all those years I keep on learning and learning. Thank you very much for all the knowledge you share with us. When I started to watch your videos I didn't know anything about astro physics, quantum mechanica and space in general. Because of you I did start to watch more videos about these topics and to read papers and studies about it, now a few year laters I can share my knowledge (Although still little compared with yours) with others. You're the best ❣

[@jarrettesselman8144]

The heliosphere and therefore our solar system has entered the galactic current sheet. That’s a big deal that he wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole.

[@jarrettesselman8144]

He’s 165 pound Chinese meet puppet

[@Quinixs]

@@jarrettesselman8144 Omg this made me laugh. Comparing someone with a good healthy life enjoying the beauty of science, to a divorced angry edge lord from bible study. I know i know.. don't feed the trolls but i just have to. What made you such an angry boy jarrettesselman8144?

[@user-co8nr9wz5n]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@trickert3129]

Thanks Anton. Have a great day!

[@-jeff-]

TY Anton for showing us that (in)famous WOW! signal.

[@scifiron]

WOW indeed Thank you for answering questions I have always had

[@daryleldridge7769]

I got to admit that i always wondered about the Hydrogen line myself!....

[@Rexxis-Arcturus]

Great vid. Thanks Anton.

[@yvonnemiezis5199]

Signals,interesting,thank you😊

[@johncoyle8139]

Anton, you are WONDERFUL!🖖

[@MsJoao101]

I remember an analogy from Carl Sagan. Maybe the civs are like the lights on a Christmas tree, it could very well be the case that we are the only one lit right now... Merry Christmas everybody!

[@joeendel3614]

hurrah new Anton vid!

[@ruperterskin2117]

Cool. Thanks for sharing.

[@tahlulabang]

I just noticed you have over a million subscribers now, congratulations!

[@pahg]

You always amaze!

[@Degenevesting]

I’m so proud of you for keeping on keeping on bro. Respect from down under (the green part, not the orange part)

[@misterlau5246]

This is getting very exciting! Many new discoveries! Yeeeesssss!!!!

[@EthanBoBethan]

You make my day bro

[@garygreen7552]

Your comment that sending a signal to the stars cited here and getting a response would take 3,000 to 4,000 years seems to be the main reason for not finding other intelligent life. Consider what our technology on earth was like 3,000 years ago. That would be about 1,000 years BCE. Radio communication became possible here about 120 years ago. Life may be out there, and probably is. But the expanse of the universe makes even communication almost impossible. Consider how long it takes for JPL to communicate with the Voyager space craft. They are just to the edge of the Solar System. Even communicating with the nearest star system would take a signal more than 8 years to be sent and answered.

[@aldogutierrez6637]

Thank you Anton!

[@camelfilters3224]

Been coming here for the brain food for 3 years and so far no complaints with the service. Thanks for all the amazing videos.

[@frankbrake7689]

I respect your opinion Anton, and you might be right. Very cool video.

[@dmprdctns]

Well done... Thanks...

[@bluedotcanal8095]

Thx Anton

[@TheCrewLT]

The ocean metaphor was spot on!

[@hazorg16]

hello anton good to see you

[@hoosiercrypto9955]

Anton. You have integrity. Thank you

[@lengould9262]

Thanks Anton.

[@WESSERPARAQUAT]

fascinating Anton

[@brav3hearthalo189]

Just here to say great vid Anton, and what’s up Tay Zonday?!

[@jimcurtis9052]

Wonderful as always anton. Thank you. 🙂👍

[@pazsion]

Why do people think 1.4ghz is bad? Plus ever hear of propagation and attenuation? The further it has to travel means it has many things that would convert it or distort it. But if you originally blast it from a very powerful source, with encoding and wave form guides… it resists these changes over distances. Again highlighting an origin of intelligence. Not just a star or ship

[@unnamedchannel1237]

Because 1x4

[@HarpreetSingh-yx4rv]

I love this channel so much I don’t share with anyone.

[@stargazer5784]

Well Anton, today's topic has certainly stirred up the comments section. LOL! Great update, thanks as always.

[@cadams1607]

I am a complete amateur and only know the basics of astronomy. My question is, could gravitational lensing alter a radiowaves signal, Stretching and compressing the wave from our perspective?

[@rogerdudra178]

Greetings from the BIG SKY. Most interesting.

[@itssatisfyingokay9315]

I just watched contact so this is an appropriate video! 😊

[@zimnesuhvezdie9027]

Ďakujem za zaujímavé informácie

[@esabria]

Even if there was something indeed, 2000 years for a signal to travel is a long time, and many civilizations may come and go....

[@aaronhoffmeyer]

Fermi Paradox is just a reflection that intelligent life is not only rare, but is incredibly short-lived even here. We have about a 100 year window of producing low-power transmissions that quickly die out in strength to be less than the background noise in our galaxy within days. 100 years out of 4.5 billion. Days vs. Light-years.

[@volos_olympus]

Civilisations don't just stagnate after unlocking radio. Even humanity has started making plans for permanent bases on the moon and, extrapolating from that, we will eventually be conducting various large scale operations in our solar system in the coming centuries.

[@zimnesuhvezdie9027]

Úžasné!

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

The fact some white noise like this is still an obsession is a bad sign for our academic community in my humble opinion..

[@TheCosmicGuy0111]

Wowza

[@CosmicCleric]

I always felt that using radio waves to communicate over long distances in space between species would be like trying to use carrier pigeons to communicate across the Atlantic ocean, a fools errand (and yes I know carrier pigeon across an ocean has actually happened before, but rarely, which makes my analogy still fit vs-a-vis radio waves). My bet is on some form on 'Quantum Internet (Galactinet?)' that we'll discover once we figure out quantum mechanics in an applicable form (aka able to actually build a 'quantum interstellar radio').

[@kx7500]

But that requires infrastructure already built. It’s the difference between a megaphone and a phone line.

[@n4lra1]

In reality, interstellar communications requires a breakthrough in our understanding of physics, quantum or otherwise. Perhaps continued developments in AI will lead us to an answer. I hope we discover it during my lifetime.

[@KnightspaceORG]

For communication yes, but we want to detect radio waves from a civilization because of a presumption that a sufficiently advanced alien species would either send those signals to serve as beacons, a sign "we are here", in a relatively simple way or those waves would be a side effect of advancement, like it happened on Earth

[@gravoc857]

@@KnightspaceORG Yes, but this assumption only works for civilizations at our point of development. If a more advanced species doesn’t use radio, and is also looking for a similarly advanced species. We won’t detect them. We have to consider all avenues of beaconing, both known and unknown. Stuff such as physically obfuscating a star, green-tinting a star, neutrino communication, gravitational wave communication, and cutting edge stuff that we haven’t even yet imagined or discovered.

[@KnightspaceORG]

@@gravoc857 Yeah, i don't think a species wouldn't use radio waves at all. It's not only a method of communication, through them we can observe stellar phenomena invisible in frequencies we can perceive. It's only fair to think that a space faring species would know the significance of those frequencies and use them in SOME way.

[@Piddemannen]

We still seem to remain bias to our own conditions of life and our planet/solar system, it's a good bet that other life exists with similar conditions to us, however, if we continue to look only for that we may come up empty handed. With our little understanding of how life even formed on our planet, how are we to judge how it may have formed on other planets. We seem to fundamentally search for the same thing over and over and expect a different result. If radio signals are found everywhere in nature, is it really the best form of long distance communication? It'd be good to have some scientists that think outside the box on SETI. Keep up the great vids Anton!

[@volos_olympus]

Carbon based life is chemically the most viable and probably only route.

[@krakhedd]

Your rationale at the end is valid and actually is scientific, insomuch as our science presently knows. A touch rephrased: we know of one civilization in the Universe, and it did not use the hydrogen wavelength to communicate a message from concerted and presumably serious efforts to reach out. So that is indeed a scientific statement.

[@josdelijster4505]

liked and shared ofcourse

[@terrypanayiotou3485]

W😮W Anton

[@James-dx2vs]

I like the wow signal.

[@vipshnu]

Wow!

[@roaldjensen3120]

-Communications would not be radio, bac k in those days it would be FRB or something along those ways. But the Zoo hypoteses is still variable :)

[@JulesStoop]

4:40 and on the field of view of the telescope.

[@TalonBrush]

Aliens: "hello from 3000 years ago maybe" Us, 6000 years later: "u up?"

[@S.ASmith]

This could be a case of Infinite monkeys will eventually type out Shakespeare's plays. There is a very high chance a random radio emission from a stellar object, will eventually, produce something we parse as a word or string of words.

[@ChrisWDow]

Does anyone else always say Hello Anton and wave back?

[@tomusmc1993]

Haha ok I'm not crazy. I thought I misunderstood something about the Hydrogen Line. I have always thought, why would you think that is a good frequency if it is cluttered with natural sources. Thank you for at least confirming I'm not alone.... at least in how I think about the Hydrogen Line

[@petercoutu4726]

If I remember correctly the frequency for the hydrogen line is the reason why old broadcast Tv's did not have certain channels.

[@Dratchev241]

broadcast TV never made it to those freqs. highest tv channel was 83 884-890MHz in the US, Australia only got to 820MHz. Japan 767MHz UK 861MHz EU 956Mhz

[@dustinswatsons9150]

When dealing with extreme distances while extreme distance capture of a signal simply to receive maybe it's offset from the signal that is broadcasting but I don't know because I am not radio ologist or some what it is. . I sure as heck would like to know though

[@TCASAnalytics]

I know you are, but what am I??? You win, a wonderful person too

[@aarthoor]

I recently read about another signal that some say might be alien in origin, TYC 1220-91-1 (I think) Nobody else seems interested in it though but it looks at least as interesting as Wow!

[@DavidLoveMore]

Bless you! This is indeed significant.

[@Pianist28545]

Anton, I am an engineer in the field of communication. As we advance, we are focusing more on local wireless communication. We accomplish this by shifting communication frequency higher and higher to reduce propagation distance hence improving the capacity. In addition, our modulation algorithm is making the transmit signal look like background noise. These advances happened during the last 10~20 years. I can't imagine what our communication devices will look like in the next twenty years from now. The fact that SETI is searching for radio signals doesn't make sense to me. We are searching for signs of radio waves that have developed for the last century, whereas intelligent life can be centuries or millennia ahead of us. And if intelligent life is a few hundred years behind us, then there is no radio signal from that intelligent life that we can detect.

[@EmeraldLavigne]

Unless it's a radio signal they intentionally turn like outward, doing their own version of Active SETI...

[@hanskalten252]

The hydrogen line is important because the universe has a lot of hydrogen so radio astronomy listens there. Most natural objects broadcast in broad bands including those comets. Most scientists in the field never really considered those comets as a serious explanation for the WOW signal because if I'm not mistaken was a narrow band transmission. I believe that is the reason many are intrigued by the WOW. A very strong narrow band that appears to have come from space.

[@mattuk56]

Now this is better. Sun-like stars stuff

[@josephlackey83]

The 1st time I was ever introduced to the WOW signal was Carl Sagan's legacy, 'Contact.'

[@ogedeh]

I nominate Anton as Earth Ambassador

[@SaintBenard]

I remember when you pointed out that those Russian hikers didn't die from Yeti bites & UFO exhaust. Weird that I was a long time holdout.. Thinking back now, huh?

[@MicroMouge]

Not surprisingly as we to are diving headlong into the great filer.

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

3:24 a little context here the intensity was annotated 0-9 then A-Z. Each increase being a factor of 10. Z was 10³⁵ times more powerful then 1.

[@EinsteinsHair]

I was disappointed in this video at several points. At 3:20 he says the maximum they could record was U, but as you point out the maximum was Z. At 3:40 he said another radio telescope was pointed at the same area, but it was a separate receiver of the same telescope which was pointed slightly to the side. At the picture at 6:14 it shows the two very narrow windows in red, where the separate receivers were pointing. At 7:40 he asks why we don't broadcast at the hydrogen line frequency, if it is such a logical frequency that aliens might be using it. But he already answered that at 1:45 when he said there are frequencies reserved for radio astronomy, and broadcasts are not allowed there.

[@akymrinkovsky289]

Wow 😉

[@quantumac]

We listened on our wireless telegraphy machine but nobody sent us any dashes or dots. Despite pondering many mysteries, we definitively conclude we are alone in the universe since obviously anyone else would use the same wireless telegraphy machines we do... Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, but if we deem it so anyway it might be evidence of arrogance.

[@Boogaboioringale]

Exactly

[@MiltonRoe]

Who is this "we" who conclusively decided something? That's not how science works. If everyone had concluded that we are alone, there wouldn't be thousand of serious scientists around the world still searching, thinking of new ways to search, and discussing solutions to the Fermi Paradox.

[@jacobe2995]

neither is is evidence for life. the only thing we currently know is we haven't heard anything .

[@thatguy4305]

i mean, you are not wrong, but no one said this is conclusive evidence for us being alone. As was said, we do know that we haven't found any signs of alien intelligent life. it's just our current understanding, according to the data we have. Your argument reads a bit like a justification for a religion or something, as that is the very same argument religious zealots like to make when people say that there is no evidence for their gods to exist.

[@lydianlights]

yes you are very smart and no one at SETI ever thought of this

[@curtisdecoste9345]

Hey Anton, playing Ixion? Space/strategy/survival/sim. Hard but fun. 👍

[@soradero]

I love that you speak fast. Man, the trend of putting elephants to sleep with the tone in scientific videos was getting old.

[@hoogalaga]

Thank you for making genuine and interesting content! It's hard to find integrity like yours on youtube.

[@scottwilliams846]

**phone rings until it stops ringing** "Why doesn't anyone call me?"

[@God-rn3ck]

Wow

[@PilatesGuy1]

👍👍🚀🚀Interesting -thanks for the update. And let's not forget to crush METI and all the Pollyannas that support it.

[@markdavid7013]

The Wow signal will likely always remain a mystery...The Big Ear received to short of a sample. length.. Just got to keep looking.

[@nigeldepledge3790]

Some very good points. I think Carl Sagan's guess of "hydrogen * pi" (or around 4.4 GHz) is more likely to be chosen; but that's probably my own bias pushing me into an unjustified assumption.

[@DrFrankensteam]

Aliens: Is your refrigerator running?! (😂)

[@patricknoel9096]

Produced my work might work for mixed resource n data chart s

[@ChriFux]

Hey anton, how are you doing?

[@StrattCaster]

My thinking is any advanced civilization would be using Quantum Communications for faster than light point-to-point communication maybe that's where we should be looking

[@MelindaGreen]

Yes, the hydrogen line is noisy. My favorite frequency is called the "Water Line" which is twice the hydrogen line plus one oxygen line. H2O, get it? There's nothing special about that line, so if life tends to be water based, this could be a natural frequency for SETI signals.

[@jbartmontage6737]

Who was the land developers that purchased the land that the observatory sat upon in 1983 and closed the observatory in 1997? Very interesting to shut it down and build a golf course upon it.

[@Essman614]

When we break down Mercury to build a Dyson swarm I propose we start by having them orbit in the shape of a Triangle for as long as possible

[@Paskaloth]

2:34 cool pic

[@mtcoiner7994]

Radio signals do feel a bit out dated. Have we tried Emailing them?

[@scottmiller2591]

I agree - the H line seems like the WORST place to look, not the best place.

[@garyfilmer382]

This ‘wow!’ signal is endlessly fascinating, thank you, Anton. I made a very modest contribution, by way of a donation, to the SETI all sky laser search project, as I think it is more reasonable to look far closer to home, for signs of an advanced extra-terrestrial civilisation, and to endeavour to discover, and to communicate, at a more reasonable distance. Even the closest galaxy to ours, M31, an amazing sight optically, on a clear, dark night, is still a staggering two and half million light years away.

[@Jeremy.Bearemy]

Imagine bragging about a donation in KZbin comments 🤡

[@garyfilmer382]

@@Jeremy.Bearemy It’s a shame that you can only show an embittered, toxic response to an action which is positive and affirms the value of scientific research. If you have nothing positive to say, it’s best to hold your poisonous views to yourself.⚠️

[@davidrobertson5700]

So check the wow signal area 45 odd years after it was recorded. Nobody would hang around 45 years waiting for a call back . Would you ?

[@PRiMETECHAU]

More like Aliens take one look at us and go. "NOT TOUCHING THAT"