WPATH Webinars: Detransitioners’ Impressions with Laura Becker, Abel Garcia, Forrest Smith

[@amaryllisequistra]

Let’s bring back the word ‘safeguarding’ instead of’ gatekeeping’. I think that using language in the way that society has agreed upon it, rather than the way that activists are trying to force us to do is a calm and non violent way of reclaiming sanity in this area.

[@roni1384]

YES!!!!!! 👏👏

[@AllyDeluxe]

Yea, it is safeguarding, not "gatekeeping." To safeguard is to ethically practice medicine.

[@patricknoble3090]

All power and respect to the detransitioners. They will be the hammer that finally breaks down this wall. When i first heard titans like Ritchie , Chloe Cole etc i was totally blown away. Suffered so much damage, but are so resilient. And now i learn of these guests here. Look after yourself and all the best for your futures! And thank you for all your work protecting others from this harm!

[@andrewunderwood4570]

Laura, Forrest and Abel, you voices need to be amplified. Thank you for telling your story and shining a light on the lies that are being told.

[@annemariegodden]

Thank you, Laura, Forest and Abel.

[@janebennetto5655]

I am so glad Carrie is going to help take some work off you Stella in USA. She seems like the best person for the job. Thank you all for an excellent discussion. This had better get thousands of views in the next month. Carry on this important work. 🇬🇧❤

[@VioletFemme810]

What about Julia Mason? She is such a good speaker!

[@amaryllisequistra]

Laura, Forrest and Abel, thank you and bless you 💗

[@medicine2202]

Stella is so adorable ❤ Im glad i found genspects channel Looking foward to keeping my self informed on the chaos thats unfolding

[@AndyJarman]

"Gatekeeping" (or more accurately safeguarding) seems to be sinful to WPATH ideologues.

[@cosmickilroy]

It’s great to hear about men and it’s great to hear about adults too!! They need just as much care. It’s not all about young girls being harmed. It’s about all people having been victims of malpractice

[@christopherkucia1071]

Also men are openly and blatantly oppressed, suppressed and vilified in western society (just part of the plan really) But women and children are being suppressed and taken advantage of and coerced in different but equal ways. We’re all under attack from the elite in power really. And we’re all victims and oppressors of ourselves consistently. It’s just worse now because it’s coming from high places as well, making those who are less susceptible of being their own victim and oppressor at much more risk/confusion/destruction.

[@AndyJarman]

Loved Forrest's comment; "What a head case. There's a lot of work to be done."

[@PsychoBible]

Thank you for sharing so bravely your stories.

[@MelissaKnoxwriter]

Thank goodness the NHS is banning puberty blockers. Let's hope the American Pediatric Association does the same thing immediately.

[@liberality]

Sadly that is not true, I suggest people read the small print. Puberty blockers will be available to children who sign up for a medical trial, and by request from their doctor.

[@michaelmayer-o3s]

Laura was amazing! It is so great to see this group and for detransitioners to have a voice! As California was mentioned, I sure hope they can come to Canada sometime!

[@Arran1994]

It’s amazing to me how strong these people are. It’s horrific what they’ve been through and they’re looking up, helping other, and smiling. Amazing.

[@elizabeththrift7697]

We need a Genspect chapter in Australia urgently! Last month the President of the Australian Medical Association was interviewed by the ABC, our national broadcaster, and he called for gender medicine to be enhanced in Australia, and its practitioners to be protected. The NSW Government is on the verge of passing a conversion therapy ban, which would make it illegal to alleviate a person's gender dysphoria through psychotherapy. The media here has not reported on the WPATH files leak, for the most part.

[@-Princesse-]

Share it what you know about these things with as many people as you can, Elizabeth. Maybe you can even have a part in the AUS chapter and its beginning. Will be praying for you over there and for all of us!

[@lukecarey613]

I’m devastated and relieved that something is falling into place with this.

[@dianaturner3341]

My prayers go out to all of the detransitioners. Especially Able Garcia. It seems like he is really struggling.❤🙏

[@n.b.8450]

You can see and feel the pain in Forrests face. I am so sorry for these young men and women that are lured into this ideology. But you can see that they took their live back, they will be wounded but will get stronger and hopefully other adolescent will hear their voices and be warned.

[@amaryllisequistra]

Let’s bring back the word ‘safeguarding’ instead of’ gatekeeping’, to differentiate the kind of care that would be helpful for the gender confused, from the non-evidence based activist-speak

[@AndyJarman]

With reference to Forest's listening to NPR. NPR is an awful source of Critical Social Justice - Peter Boghossian has a series of YT videos "All things reconsidered".

[@robertmarshall2502]

I found that series to be excellent and also quite humorous. It also helped me see why I've fallen out of love with the BBC for similar reasons. Gone are the highly researched specialized documentaries and in their place is a "diverse" cast that are all equally underwhelming and produce almost nothing of cultural note.

[@waynesimmonds9646]

God help these folks who were manipulated by a system that is leaning towards psychopathology. I do believe there are many people in the health fields that you will need to avoid totally.

[@liberality]

Just a technical tip, if subtitles are baked into the video they can't be translated, and are in a very small font on a phone screen. I suggest Genspect uses close captioning instead; there are correction and translation tools in KZbin Studio for the auto generated English captions.

[@shebacat565]

I like Laura's: "I don't know the difference Stella", such good response about salamander v. lizard. Also Laura, you glow up more and more each day. Looking lovely, plus so smart, articulate and charismatic. Just all round interesting to listen to.

[@joane24]

In case anyone's wondering, salamanders are amphibians, just like frogs🐸. Whereas lizards are reptiles like snakes🐍. 🙃🦎

[@asherahalchemy5101]

Finally, reality surfaces for all to see and hear

[@janebennetto5655]

PS- I am glad NHS is leading the way for pubity blocker prescription reduction- I just hope that desperate patients/ patients DO NOT take part in ‘research’ that may be poor in its planning and execution just to get puberty blockers. Please be alert for research that is devised for these drugs. Thank you. 🇬🇧❤

[@testerbend9473]

The sad thing is that three examples started to weird out later in life and that most kids now are getting fed this crap before 10yo.

[@ruthhorowitz7625]

Heartbreaking to hear them.

[@AndyJarman]

The Lizards that lose their tales are called Geckos. Those lizards on Laura's sweatshirt are Geckos, they may have 'funky' tales but they have big bright eyes.

[@onetwo19]

It seems so typical that a young person succeeds when they leave the cult. The one's in the throws of it, are failing and have a terrible relationship with their family...they are lost in anger and resentment and imagined wrongs.

[@AndyJarman]

Listening to Abel the LGBTQ "community" sounds like the Mafia! It sounds like he was trapped in cult and a series of Catch 22s.

[@DanielEarth1]

👍🏼 LGB; 👎TQ.

[@BrittishCats]

They offers surgery with 100% fail rate (nobody changes sex) and then blame it on the patients if they regret it. This is some next level of hell shite.

[@7eyesopenwide168]

If they start paying for detransitioners to detransition that creates a record of how bad it is. Is it the same insurance establishment that would end up paying malpractice rulings?

[@lettersquash]

Every time I watch or read something like this, I toy with the idea of posting it on a forum where I argued for months with trans apologists, because surely THIS one will get through to them, but my experience of doing that already made me realise it was pointless. I felt it again even stronger with this video (as well as the first one with Mia on the WPATH files). And at 59:40 Mia described why nothing gets through. They are true believers, and that means they believe their fight is the right one, and we are evil, hateful Nazis trying to force "cis-heteronormativity" on everyone. It's hard to remember that most of them are indeed, "good people," and that's partly because it's so hard to imagine anyone could be so indoctrinated, or confused, or (quite frankly, sometimes) stupid, as to believe the gender ideology. Once you do, you also realise they must puzzle over how you can't see that bodily autonomy for all is the next great leap forward for humxnity. The detransitioners on this - Laura, Forrest, Abel - thank you so much for speaking out! I was blown away by your intelligence and courage, and you brought me so much hope.

[@huguettebourgeois6366]

Forest is a great person!!!!❤

[@wrehdyphotytoo9117]

Why they are against police.... This movement is about alliship and police are not allies of the movement. Thank you for all the diligent work you are doing.

[@happynjoyousnfree]

Can we talk about Laura's awesome background? 😍🤩😍🤩😍

[@lukecarey613]

It will be interesting to see if some sort of 12 Step group isn’t born out of this given the similarities between this and the reasons for other 12 step fellowships.

[@7eyesopenwide168]

Huh. He says twitter helped reprogram him. He found others there. Perhaps this is another reason musk and twitter had to be attacked.

[@ruthcookeinthetradition]

Yeah, Pride has months! Detransitioners at LEAST need a week!

[@TheVigilantEye77]

Becker went from what to what to what ?

[@testerbend9473]

So much of your life lost Laura. I hope you find yourself again.

[@testerbend9473]

Forrest - From religion (which one?), to erotica to porn…..good gracious. More life lost.

[@Weissguys6]

Honestly, your “feelings” don’t concern me. The damage done to mankind, especially our most vulnerable, by your profession does.

[@VioletFemme810]

It’s very disheartening to hear Carrie disparage her APP colleagues as uneducated again in this talk, albeit more subtle this time. Isn’t the point of Genspect to look at objective evidence rather than anecdotes? Transition would not exist but for physicians and psychiatrists who developed the Dutch Protocol. The concept started, and continues, in countries that do not even recognize non-physician prescribers. WPATH and its guidelines are written by fellowship trained physicians, surgeons, and PhDs. Gender surgeries are only performed by physicians who have completed a surgical residency and fellowship. Thus I would posit that ethics, rather than years of education, are to blame for our current plight. Furthermore, it’s repeatedly pointed out by many organizations, including FAIR, that medical schools are lowering standards while simultaneously indoctrinating their new grads. It would be wise of Genspect to clean up the delivery of its message in a way that does not alienate it’s professional allies, who are a significant part of the medical community, but who are a very small part of the problem.

[@BarnabyWild13]

Unethical, is unethical.

[@AllyDeluxe]

Forrest is real easy on the eyes ;) ☺️🫠🤭