Raw vs Nitro "Reliving The War": Episode 18 - Jan 15th 1996

[@endersdragon34]

An episode with Jobber Hardy vs Ringmaster Austin and Undertaker vs his brother in his Dentist phase... What a weird episode from an Attitude Era perspective.

[@idkwhatsgoingon4584]

We went too far back in time

[@exquisitelemonade3039]

Hogan was only selling because Meng would kill him after

[@carybeweary7209]

Damn straight

[@oldironsides4107]

I once saw Ming fish out several condoms from the hotel trashcan and eat them whole. It didn’t impress anyone. We thought it was disgusting and nobody wanted to be around him. Just the kind of thing he though was awesome. Or when he put a Louisville slugger up his butt.

[@Riese79]

Oh yes, He wouldve...., 🤗

[@dasdeke]

^ this

[@JumpingJackFlash1989]

Ah you beat me to it 😂😂

[@Gcrab71989]

This series has become a huge highlight of my week, always click it as quick as I can.

[@gen-x-dad]

Me too! but gotta wonder at 1 a week it will take another 4-5 years, thats a long run

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

Agreed!

[@jaynol2225]

@@gen-x-dad thats what im hoping for lol

[@xxTyphoid]

@@gen-x-dad they say the pandemic will last 7 years, what else are we supposed to do for two years?

[@maz5557]

Same here

[@VERDICTInsanity]

God I miss Pillman 😢 he really was a one of a kind wrestling act

[@ferriswheeler08]

his wcw exit to ecw to wwf is the most epic storyline.. especially that promo on ecw.. chills every time

[@mrsinister8943]

Makes you think what could of been if he hadn't died.his character could of been super over in the mist of the attitude era and scsa probably would of been more than happy to help his former tag partner succeed.

[@VideoEgo1]

@@mrsinister8943 I agree with you but you also gotta remember Pillman was legitimately insane. This was not an act or character, he was a lunatic and that's what's made him so special and also limited .

[@jordandupe398]

He WASNT an act...That was BIGGEST asset & unfortunately.. POSSIBLY what cost him...

[@DeathsNitemareShepardOfHope]

I'll Always remember the Pillman that came out in the tiger striped trunks. "Fly'in" Bryan Pullman.👍

[@AdmiralMcFish]

"It's actually quite shocking how little offence the Public Enemy are allowed to get in here, practically nothing so far". A sign of things to come.

[@EssexAggiegrad2011]

Ask the APA

[@ferriswheeler08]

@@EssexAggiegrad2011 savage hahaha

[@Thor-Orion]

Rocco Roc was a pretty decent worker (according to most people, he carries a lot of respect from people who knew him before The Public Enemy) but Grunge is just garbage trash.

[@Tony-fq5bn]

Lol, Public Enemy had an ok run in WcW, they were slaughtered in the WWF tho

[@ferriswheeler08]

@@Tony-fq5bn WCW brings in Ultimate Warrior so Hogan can get back a one up win.. WWF brings in Public Enemy so the entire roster can get a beating in..

[@banksta3]

I've noticed a trend where the "loser" usually wins the ratings war for that week. As a whole so far, WCW just feels like a bigger deal. We routinely get to see, Flair, Savage, Sting, Luger, Hogan, the Giant. While on Raw it's maybe the Undertaker, maybe Bret Heart, Maybe Diesel, maybe Razor, but almost always in a squash match. Of course with revisionist history we know that guys like Austin, Goldust, The Hardy's, HHH and others will go on to become great characters for Raw, but at this point they seem inconsequential.

[@mitchellima4736]

I agree with this. Right now nitro feels bigger, tho pre heal turn Hogan is pushing it big time. I like 80s Hogan but early mid 90s hogan was a chore just to watch. I think he's a good wrestler but you could tell he just didn't care and was the ultimate political wrestler brother

[@banksta3]

@@mitchellima4736 During this time I was 13-14. And while I obviously knew wrestling was scripted, I didn't know anything about the backstage politics. But even then I thought it was dumb when Hogan would just brush off an opponents finisher. Or how he'd get stronger, the longer he was in a submission hold. "Hulking Up" almost makes sense in front of a belligerent crowd of 30,000+ people that are all cheering for you. But to do it in every match I ever saw him in was just insulting lol.

[@robbiesilverwolf]

Yeah Raw was following the old formula while Nitro was trying to be new and exciting. If you listen to any Bischoff interviews he always says that

[@ddlol7689]

I agree 💯 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6mZpmyYirOVsJI

[@Tony-fq5bn]

Seriously, it seems like Owen Hart and Marty Jannety are the actual stars of Raw at this point, meanwhile you got Main-Eventers V Main-Eventers on every match in WcW. O and lets be real, Goldust was pretty funny, but people weren't really trying to watch Goldust back in the 90's

[@claybaxter3202]

Owen always hit the cool gut-wrench suplex. Loved his arsenal of moves!

[@Myndir]

Because I was such a big fan of Sting, Benoit, Guerrero, Malenko, Saturn, and Goldberg, I can't help but wish that WCW will win! It wasn't until late 1999/early 2000 that the WWF won me over, e.g. Cactus Jack vs. HHH at Royal Rumble 2000 is still one of my favourite hardcore matches, and the WWF signed a lot of great talent in that period from WCW/ECW.

[@kingoftheswing38]

This is the best series on any platform. My childhood comes back every week. Thank you!

[@SimianScience]

24:24 i was flipping channels and turned into this. i was laughing so hard but was amazed. i became a pro wrestling fan then and there and still am to this day because of that.

[@zjdarrah]

I was a lucky one that my local cable system had TNT on the east coast feed and USA on a west coast feed, which meant I was able to watch nitro at 5:00 p.m. and then Raw would be on at 8:00. That really made bischoff look like an asshole when he would give out the results for raw lol

[@nestornieto8342]

Instant like for my Man Wrestling Bios, your work Is appreciated

[@luckybangbang7689]

I have been waiting all day! Never checked on a KZbin channel video release before but this is Thursday and reliving the war is Thursday’s!

[@dreadkalibur1613]

My favourite show of my week! =D

[@marinosa1819]

This is more interesting and a lot more fun than contemporary wrestling

[@spencer9093]

3:07 "Luger begs for mercy in the corner but the macho man doesn't listen" dead LMAO

[@VoluntaryPerry]

I cant wait till the original shows expand to 2 hours so this show gets longer!!!

[@briana656]

This has been my favorite series on youtube lately.

[@adrismalik7673]

Reliving the war - Series of the year 2020

[@fitness65]

This series has been my favorite thing to look forward to on my lunchbreak makes the lunchbreak more relaxing

[@KEWLV1C]

I might as well have gotten a title shot against Flair using Hogan’s logic lol

[@jonathanryan2915]

Being from Delaware, I remember when raw was taped at the University of Delaware. I remember there was snow on the ground back then and I remember the gold dust beating because of it

[@McPoshSquatch]

Isn't that Vince Russo 15:57 in the Billionaire Ted skits?

[@PhenomsServant4]

"This wont be the last time we look at matches that feature unsavory superstars." Seeing that you've been giving the nod towards several of Beniot's matches so far, I had already assumed that was a given.

[@robattewell6087]

Absolutely loving this series as I have been made redundant due to COVID-19. Wresting Bios is brilliant and I have been recommending it on my Facebook page. Fantastic work, keep it up.

[@christophergordon6250]

I remembered watching Arn slap Brian Pillman when I was younger. The moment that clip with the Dungeon of Doom and The Four Horseman began, I knew it was the "Arn slapping Pillman" interview. I've remembered that ever since I was a kid and now I got to see it again on one of the best wrestling series on one of the best wrestling channels: "Reliving The War" on Wrestling Bios. Keep up the great work. Your channel is amazing.

[@TheSouthernDemocratparty]

These are great. Bring back a lot of good memories.

[@TheRealRollerCodster]

So much nostalgia in this videos, i love it!

[@jamesandrewjohnstone1931]

Defo look forward to this series every Thursday...keep it going... loving the history.

[@MetropolisKid]

as soon as i’m done with each episode of the monday might war series..i go back and watch both shows and always agree with you.

[@jelehu]

Am I the only person that thinks Col. Robert Parker looks like an old Billy Gunn?

[@MarcusSalviusOtho]

I think this is the only channel on KZbin where I've watched every single video they've made.

[@SmartMoneyAnimation]

Thanks again for the shoutout! I really appreciate it!

[@JosephRodriguez1991]

Nice steel chair catch, by The Macho Man. Since Nitro was in Miami, Florida on that night I'm pretty sure, that The Miami Dolphins would've love to have him on their roster back then. Shawn went from looking cool, to looking like a grandpa. Thank you for uploading these entertaining wrestling videos on here, especially during these difficult times that The World is going through right now. Keep up the great work on here, stay safe, and God bless you brother.

[@olbloodngut4039]

This is the only series I look forward to watching every week. Keep up the good work.

[@GPrime008]

I member this Monday and I also ordered Royal Rumble, great times!

[@marahmonyet4664]

Please keep doing this forever bro, i need this in my life

[@devinschwartz7596]

27 minutes?? You're the GOAT!

[@liamnguyen2819]

I love this series. Thanks for another great vid.

[@PigonStallion]

Give this guy more likes! He puts in a ton of work, the least we can do is give him a thumbs up.

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

Another awesome video, my man! Really, really enjoy the trips down memory lane. By the way, did anyone else notice the similarities between Randy Savage and Marty Jannetty's ring gear in this episode?

[@uncommonsence153]

I was scrolling looking for something not knowing what I needed until I came across this I definitely needed this video at this time great work

[@MisterGravelrama]

Once again, an excellent in-depth breakdown of the Monday Night Wars. The combination of details through information, pics, & clips is put together better than anywhere else. That being said, while I appreciate your reasoning for for giving Owen/Marty the point, personally I would choose Savage/Luger. Just my opinion as I always enjoy a good debate with someone knowledgeable of the topic. Looking forward to when I can get to your next post!

[@brianhayslett1663]

You have one of the best wrestling centered channels on here. Really good topics. Keep it up.

[@SupraRy]

This series gets an immediate click to watch for me, and instant like and I have been subscribed with the bell on since I discovered the channel. Top notch quality entertainment . Please don't stop the series. I am so excited to watch it all the way through 2001 and then you can do TNA after that lol.

[@SupraRy]

It's crazy to think that WCW and WWF developed storylines and kept audiences before they both had weekly episodic TV shows i.e. raw starting in 93 and nitro starting in 95. Before that they had ppvs/in your house which didn't start until 95-96, Saturday nights main event, WCW Saturday night, and clash of the champions.

[@MS-it9vv]

I look forward to these each week. Thanks for making them!

[@heyyou9693]

A little late to the show on this channel, but I find the stories and how they are presented very interesting. Good job Wrestling bios!

[@dwaynegreene152]

The Monday night wars were a big part of my youth. Jumping back and forth from TBS and TSN. Wrasslin will never be the same.

[@dan5609]

Thanks for this the big three war was my favorite time in pro wrestling.

[@dougwalker9286]

I must agree. Since we all now know about the creative control looking back you see how much HH played that card.

[@joeyballistic5053]

Bring back memories watching these. Back when wrestling was good. Stopped watching wrestling 2009.

[@stevengrvp]

War day oh yeah I just can't for lose cannon saying " I respect you booker man" in the upcoming weeks

[@Thor-Orion]

I just watched a documentary on Pillman, and man, when i finish my time machine i’m going back to drive Pillman home that fateful day when he crashes his Hummer. We’ll also be seeimg Steve Austin go cold as stone very soon. The gold chain Austin wears was given to him by Pillman, they were best friends. It’s crazy how the two Hollywood Blondes basically made the attitude era with their more realistic and inspired gimmicks that were entirely self made.

[@shawnthomas6160]

Its really crazy I mean simultaneously right as a new episode is appearing

[@lordcolinb]

Love these videos Happier times than now

[@AlexThorn]

I absolutely love these

[@FutureHonest]

you put so much work into all your videos! this series has been great. it took me forever to remember who the artist was who did that older theme song and then it hit me......The Union Underground

[@dmfiidmf]

Loving the wars almost as much as I did first times ty man

[@Griffin09275]

This series gives me life

[@lancewhiteeagle3203]

Really like these videos, thanks for keeping them coming

[@sgallegos702]

First time in awhile I’ve seen Raw easily have a win. That Nitro episode seemed to be laborious.

[@hectorgutierrez5240]

Thanks for this series and your channel in general man. You have no idea how hyped i get Thursday for this series

[@jarrodhen8063]

First of all I love this series and channel and these comments are just food for thought. 2ndly this is your channel and you should do what you feel is best because u do all this hard work for us each week and do it really well. That being said the only thing i don't like is the way the scoring goes exactly. I don't mean who you choose to win each segment. That I believe could always be debated depending on any given persons personal preference. I do "personally" think the scoring and overall winner though is a little miss leading. I understand the whole "Sametime match up" of it but this is going to bed an issue later on when they expand the hours because they whole shows weren't played at the exact same time. Right now being Nitro is always live and the Raw is not they get to set their order up against the WWF at this point 2 out of 3 weeks however they see fit. Which is a huge advantage and is Ultimately the WWFs fault. (I know it changes to WWE down the road. I was a teenager during this time and watched all of this as it happened. But they were the WWF at this time and I will refer to them as that) I think if you really want to know who had a better overall show things like match vs. a recap or a non wrestling promo should not happen. I feel if you want a true account of what was better you should have matches vs matches and promos vs promos ect. Meaning if there are 3 matches on each card they should be judged against each other even if they are presented at different times unless there are different amounts because it's rare that promos get "a point" over matches unless they are obvious enhancement matches. (Like Owen Hart 💪 vs John "Jobber" Hopkins 👩‍🏭 or something when you Owen will win. This is where i say it's actually "Misleading" and why I think the ratings are allot different then the scores we have been seeing. WCW will get the point for the week by winning say 4 segments to 2 on any given week. However even though they won more segments doesn't mean it was actually all to together a better show to me. They can very narrowly win their segments and get blownout in the ones they don't but still win because they won more segments. If for instance you rated the segments on a 1-10 scale or something of the sort you might see the shows outcome differently. Example being WCWs segment ratings could be 4, 6, 2, 3, 6, and 8 for a total of 29 points Then WWFs segment ratings are 9, 5.5, 1, 2, 10, and 7.75 for a total of 35.25 points. So WCW won more segments but the WWF actually had a more points and a better overall score. Like a 9 inning baseball game between Yankees and Tigers that ended 11-8. Dispite Tigers scoring more runs in 5 of the innings and the Yankees only outscoring the Tigers in 2 of the innings the Yankees still win the game because they outscored the Tigers by a combined 9 runs in those 2 innings and the Tigers only outscored the Yanks by 6 in the 5 innings they won. This might actually help in eliminating sooner if the ties as well..... I understand it is probably way too late to change the scoring for the future and again this is just food for thought and regardless I think you do a really really really good job for us and I appreciate and thank you for all the hard work you do to present us with these videos and I will soon be a Patreon supporter for you without a doubt.

[@morganfarlie]

I scrolled through the first 20 comments and I saw a distinct lack of discussion that Raw ACTUALLY got a point this week. I love the way you do your best to be fair about this scoring system and look at the objectively better segments here and Raw WAS the better TV show, ratings be damned. Keep up the great work Bios, I love watching this :D

[@hazardtriplezero]

Jeebus. Matt Hardy still hasn't even grown into his big boy face yet.

[@chindub6563]

Look forward to this show all week bro keep up the amazing work much love from south Carolina

[@mariobonilla2352]

That intro song just took me to my childhood I forget which video game but a wrestling one forsure but came recall the exact One

[@Thebossstage1]

Steve Austin with hair looks like Woody Harrelson

[@stewartmeetball3417]

Thanks wrestling bios

[@ThunderBunny30]

I love this series and your channel! About WWF pulls out a W lol. Appreciate the shoutout.

[@shawnthomas6160]

Its wired every week I happen to subconsciously think about this series I turn to KZbin an new episode is there waiting for me what a coincidence

[@Thebossstage1]

Wired?

[@Sundaysjamsession]

Anyone else hit the like first knowing it's going to be awesome. Favorite show! Thank you for this Awesome series..mchlv

[@ramk4365]

Awesome job Wrestling Bios!! When can we expect the 19th episode of this series more episodes? Eagerly waiting!

[@berzerkbankie1342]

Hogan knew if he didn't sell something from Meng that Meng would hit him for real.

[@canUsaythis]

Iv just realised at no point on Nitro that week did we have Benoit, Eddie, Dean, Regal or other technitions/Crusier Weights? *apart from Sting/Flair* It was just All Stars and wow it makes a difference with none of that Mid Card

[@leeclegg2943]

Yep and Raw beats Nitro when you dont have those guys on the card

[@Thor-Orion]

Lee Clegg yep, and Wwf puts wcw out of business when they jump ship.

[@Cream-2128]

Huh Savage is the best wrestler between the two companies. Also dean didn’t draw at all and Jericho and Waltman helped Eddie and Benoit draw

[@canUsaythis]

@@Cream-2128 I will admit Dean did not draw BUT he always put on solid matches that everyone watched. I mean he won PWI Wrestler of the year 97.....I think?

[@Thor-Orion]

Real K i think Eddie could have been a draw on his own, he was very charismatic, he may have just made the dance a little late. Additionally, some of the guys back then weren’t really well suited to helping him show his in ring greatness. Then the smackdown six happened and people began loving Eddie. His Latino Heat/Lie Chest Steal gimmick was big time over. I agree that despite his amazing in ring work Benoit was never going to be the draw in the states that the others would be, but Eddie very well could have been. And Rey Mysterio was over like rover and could have been moved up the card very slowly. As the ultimate underdog babyface with a mesmerizing move and skill set he didn’t have to talk much to get over.

[@Gibson343088]

It's insane how much wrestling changed from year to year in the 90's

[@ThaClancyFam2]

Random Suggestion: Do a wrestling spotlight on the Career of Curtis “Mr. Hughes”.

[@ferriswheeler08]

The thumbnail had me like... why is Lex Luger going head to head with a highschool history teacher..

[@carybeweary7209]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mrsinister8943]

Its not a teacher thats shawn micheals a wrestler for the wwf.

[@ferriswheeler08]

@@mrsinister8943 I know lol the haircut in the thumbnail quickly threw me off hahaha

[@Rossa4444]

Where in Norn iron are you from mate? Im from Newry, i can remember being in school and talking about wrestling in the yard on a weekly basis. it really felt like so many people from our area would watch and discuss wrestling, especially in the attitude era. Watching your videos really takes me back to that period. Keep up the great content

[@marcuscicero5033]

Who else hates Kevin Sullivan’s make up? It looks ridiculous

[@dford192]

I love it *because* its ridiculous.

[@DasKame]

Dont hate the Player. Hate the Game

[@kingjay239]

Why was Vader always wearing his singlet backwards lmao.

[@usernamesrlamo]

Cause it’s VaDeR TiMe fool

[@lupeguillen5203]

Who was gonna say anything to him

[@pussydestroyer87]

@@usernamesrlamo This is true. Its like when Lincoln Hawk turned his hat backwards.

[@xUnrealWarriorx]

@@lupeguillen5203 Mr.Wonderful lmao

[@McDanieI]

God I love that music remix in the begining of these! Is there a longer version?

[@craigneal6746]

Once this ends, I'll probably rewatch it again from the start 😁

[@Dave0G]

But what'll you do in 2031🤔😅

[@tonyhernandezpumarejo]

Excellent episode!

[@mikemccoy5092]

Savage had good outfits in wcw

[@King_Cova]

Another great video lad. Keep it up

[@popmonika]

Gotta love Hogan's logic... Yo brother you've been losing to that guy all month so you shouldn't be number one contender man... The huckster should get a title shot instead.

[@erict7840]

we want 2 "reliving the war" episodes a week

[@hectorgutierrez5240]

Naw dont be greedy man. Dont want him to burn out

[@bendover2865]

Hector Gutierrez but we are getting videos no one is asking for, he may as well do 2 a week, no one will complain

[@hectorgutierrez5240]

Ben Dover exactly man, no one asked for this series. He’s doing it out of his own time. Why try to work him more than he is already? He can easily just drop this series if he wanted to, but you can hear he has fun doing these. I just don’t want him to fall out of being with love doing this because we burned him out.

[@ryanconville9181]

1996 Royal Rumble was the 1st the ppv my wrestling friends decided to get, granted it was only 4 of us. Our 2 favorite WWF wrestlers going for the title we had to see who would win

[@arrowwolfz]

Kevin Sullivan and Benoit in the same ring for a promo.

[@tylerwatkins341]

Is it just me or does it feel like WCW uses the same 10 wrestlers every episode?

[@mickyfynn326]

Na they def did. Like how many times was it sting vs flair or sting vs let or something like that? And for as much as they used sting why was he nvr champ?

[@timroberts917]

Settle in, it gets worse.

[@luagoluago]

You deserve 1million subscribers

[@stevenimeson902]

thoroughly enjoyed this episode it was decently competitive

[@dustinparker9456]

I remember that razor goldust beat down. When it aired I never forgot how pissed razor was.

[@TheSlashTraxNetwork]

hey just so ya know, no biggy but johnny grunge didn't botch the top rope bump he remembered halfway through it that over the top was means for a DQ in wcw at the time so that was him trying to fix it before ruining the finish way too early :) great video though!

[@DJGuitarPlayer632]

I could have sworn you said "Monday Night Nyquil" lol

[@mikecooke7876]

of course your gonna sell on any of meng matches he really mess ya up

[@MrEandc4life]

This is just a great way 6o sort of relive these moments

[@al5306]

The Public Enemy were out of their element, so it was believable to me that they would have trouble with the American Males. Grunge and Rocco had to wrestle a match with structure and rules and couldn't get into a wild brawl - where they would excel. It's like that time in WCW where Sabu got DQ'd for putting someone through a table. That was great. It showed that Sabu was "uncivilized." He was outside the rules of the company. It put him over and it put the rules over. Rules are so important in wrestling, because it's easier to tell stories. It would have been great to see Sabu continue to get DQ'd until someone said, "you know what? I'm tired of you. I'll beat you at your own game" and then we'd see Sabu shine in a no-DQ match at a PPV or something. Or maybe he gets a manager that tries to straighten him up and control him.

[@danielhudson5424]

Paul Heyman Did Something Close to That With Sabu In ECW Where He Was Tied Up Similar To Hanibal Lector in Silence of The Lambs.

[@al5306]

@@danielhudson5424 You're right. I really liked that. I thought he was pretty dangerous lol

[@PrimevalDemon]

The "Free for All" sounds really cool honestly!

[@camcamz2128]

We gotta get a Public enemy video soon I remember them from the doomed MTV video bash video you did