🍆 WTF is A Court of Mist and Fury?

[@crazyweirdgirl115]

The sarcasm in this video burnt my eyebrows completely off

[@withcindy]

👁️👄👁️ mi eyebrows

[@ntheflesh5687]

The amount of sarcasm is immeasurable and my day is saved. :)

[@selenophile410]

Woot?

[@virtuesc0rn354]

That is so random yet so totally related

[@dylanleff373]

I don’t understand why people have to shit on good books that are enjoyable, when they can’t even write a book or try. Like as soon as I saw her short hair it I knew she was a Karen

[@charlieh4607]

BREAKING NEWS: Local Man Discovers Women Can Think

[@withcindy]

FEMINISTS EVERYWHERE ARE BORN AT HIS REVELATION

[@haggisa]

charlie h I cackled! 😁

[@sebastienlee9754]

Florida man

[@dontworryaboutit6914]

That is a lie sir

[@adeline168]

WOMAN CAN THINK?????????????????????? nah dude!

[@semanticallysam8611]

"I LOVE IT WHEN A WOMAN IS INDEPENDENT NOW THAT A MAN ALLOWS HER TO BE" I DIED

[@withcindy]

this is what we fought for

[@seaeable]

Reading the before the video lol Im like wait WHAT 😮 *facepalm*

[@luthientinuviel101]

I almost choked on my tea oof

[@poisondamage2182]

and this book was written by a woman. it leaves me wondering if she just has a *very* low opinion about other women.

[@catarinasena1634]

@@poisondamage2182 wdym?

[@carlasierrabenancio8463]

“𝙹𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚋𝚎𝚌𝚊𝚞𝚜𝚎 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚑𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚊 𝚋𝚒𝚐 𝚍𝚒𝚌𝚔 𝚒𝚝 𝚍𝚘𝚎𝚜𝚗’𝚝 𝚖𝚎𝚊𝚗 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚑𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚊 𝚋𝚒𝚐 𝚍𝚒𝚌𝚔 𝚎𝚗𝚎𝚛𝚐𝚢“ Man that hit different

[@giovannirafael5351]

It's true though

[@spicychai]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheLPSWarriors]

Rhysand be like 'should women be able to think for themselves? 🤔 let's discuss'

[@withcindy]

"just playing devils advocate, but maybe woman do deserve rights"

[@xRaiofSunshine]

But only with my fellow menfolk 🤔

[@javierlopez9789]

Chad

[@theoddbooksout7202]

"i can't believe rhysand created feminism" i laughed so freaking hard at this!!!

[@withcindy]

he truly is an icon

[@ishanafondekar6334]

Rhysand is just every feminist’s dream dude isn’t he?

[@raine6621]

@@ishanafondekar6334 oh totally

[@ishanafondekar6334]

@@raine6621 feminists go to bed at night dreaming of rhysand's wokeness

[@sushi595]

@@ishanafondekar6334 oh he’s definitely a feminist

[@KaiInMotion]

"But unfortunately they have PTSD.... *not* so cute!" - me trying to sell roadside therapy out of the back of a pink glittery minivan in the middle of nowhere

[@withcindy]

me as a doctor

[@nunyabusiness776]

...is there candy...?

[@teddys3106]

hey, i’ll take it. how does six dollars and a bag of deer teeth sound?

[@coffee_person938]

@@teddys3106 i'll take the deer teeth. *leans into walkie talkie * we got em.

[@candiedlemon3832]

me as a therapist

[@a.j.5498]

I think that line from the sex scene would have been even more iconic if Feyre had released a breath she didn't know she was holding.

[@withcindy]

NO

[@claireeckhardt4472]

LMAO IM CRYING I’M

[@aneeqahadam-esa5456]

Dead 💀🤣

[@KallichoreMoth]

BRUH NOOO

[@rileslord1082]

BUWHAHAHAHA

[@drama.landia]

"He took a freshman women's studies seminar at a local community college." I LEGIT LAUGHED AT MY DESK AT WORK.

[@Anesjournal]

"Does she still paint anymore" Nope, just incessantly talks about things that could be paintings

[@withcindy]

facts

[@achoquenao3719]

isn't that what all artists do?

[@riti184]

@@achoquenao3719 trueee tho

[@ellieclem9907]

I feel that she is actually really bad at painting and everyone is just all like wow to make her feel good like she vandalized that poor cabin and I’m trying to picture these painting and I’m just like 🤢🤮

[@helenl3193]

@@ellieclem9907 I assume they cover her wall scrawls with a glamour any time she's not present

[@alexandra1695]

That sex scene literally made my liver cringe

[@withcindy]

scene? theres more than 1 scene baby

[@alexandra1695]

@@withcindy The other ones made other organs cringe. It was a cringe fest.

[@Velvetstatics]

I wheezed in public reading this comment

[@happilyeverbooks9295]

Plot twist : you go into work one day and see one of your co workers reading ACOMAF because of you

[@withcindy]

NOOOO

[@selenophile410]

Horror sounds

[@alliewithbooks]

“Somewhere between the first and second books rhysand took a women’s studies course at a community college and became #woke” 😂😂😂 this is my favorite part of the video we stan

[@withcindy]

We love a feminist

[@alexandra1695]

Rhysand is as woke as me in the morning after four hours of sleep

[@victoriabeke6544]

Kora C. If that means “I think I’m awake but honestly I really am not”, then I can relate.

[@thealee6955]

Andy Dwyer, is that you?

[@Salma-qx3te]

LMFAOOO

[@Max-gb9nz]

Feyre: Hey do you know where the bathroom is, I really have to pee The world's smallest violin begins to play as the faerie turns, tears in their eyes: When I....... was a child.......

[@LoveValentineXO]

I loved the second book, but man, I had issues with the narration. Especially the info dumps with Feyre's only reaction being for her body to do something weird. Info-dumper: *paragraph about how awful their lives have been* Feyre: *my knees buckled* Info-dumper: *paragraph about how more horrible their life was* Feyre: *my lips quivered* Info-dumper: *paragraph about how sad this stuff made them* Feyre: *my bowels turned to liquid* Info-dumper: *sad conclusion to that event* Feyre: *my anus puckered* Like, for fucks sake, woman! You're allowed to talk while other people are talking!

[@dawnmayflower4422]

LoveValentineXO 🤣😂🤣😂

[@coleyblossoms1051]

WHEN I WAS A YOUNG BOY

[@shubhamrc4379]

@@LoveValentineXO Stop!!! My tummy hurts from too much laughing 😭🤣😭🤣

[@sora1498]

STOP IM-

[@vp568]

Why does “it’s your choice” sound like an incredibly abusive and manipulative tactic?

[@user-pi3hd2bt3f]

Because it is

[@user-pi3hd2bt3f]

@Val Hamlet da, si tu?

[@nayeonswife6994]

"you can go to the bar and LEAVE me here, *it's your choice.* "

[@xRaiofSunshine]

Because it is 😨

[@apollosinner]

‘You can choose where we get takeout from, it’s your choice after all.’

[@sergiovela7686]

Sarah J maas is the Queen of ruining characters in order to make other characters look good

[@withcindy]

love that for her 😝🤙🏼

[@ladyprimrose4533]

*Coughs* Chaol *Coughs*

[@damixyoohyeon9069]

Or ruining characters so they could be put together with another character *cough* Manon *cough*

[@summerb5153]

@@ladyprimrose4533 Oh My God so TRUE MY POOR BOY.

[@jessadecastro4098]

Ehem Chaol ehem...

[@Despair9753]

My mom was sitting next to me. Thankfully she doesn't speak English. 😂😂😂😂

[@withcindy]

translate this video for her

[@mariamhassun2518]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 mine too

[@Mary-yq6vk]

Saaaaaammme

[@Veryy_Victoriaa]

“They’re engaged! Cute! But now they have PTSD. Not so cute.” 😂

[@withcindy]

SO not kawaii

[@mimirants7935]

Lucien and Elain: the new Jacob and Renesmee

[@withcindy]

NOOOOO

[@georgiatsambis]

Frrrrrrrrrr

[@ankitasingh4715]

Kill me😂😂

[@illchangemyusernamewhenith9130]

Those names sound a lot like Lorcan and Elide.. 🤔

[@uhhohhnico]

LMFAOOO

[@destinyh7249]

Another testament to Maas' writing ability is that 97% of the time when Feyre is upset, she throws up. I counted once and I think she threw up 7 times in one book. Maas falls back on certain things to convey emotions and it feels cheap

[@annahooge3878]

AGREED. SJM loves to reuse phrases and tropes to the point where you expect it even before you read it. "Shredded to ribbons" is my addition to your point.

[@chloeharleary3180]

im so glad someone else was over everyone throwing up. it’s the most unrealistic response to happen so frequently

[@aengusog3415]

@@annahooge3878 *and picking nails*

[@maried7437]

@@annahooge3878 .... I breathed.. ... syphons glaring... ... my knees buckled 🤧... ... a snarl left my mouth.. ... starlight glimmed in his eyes.. can't tell you how many times I've read these sentences, jesus

[@isabelong380]

@@maried7437 i let go of a breath i didn’t know i was holding 🙄

[@sofias.8233]

Never closed “Greek gods as vines but gay” this fast.

[@withcindy]

wow thats a tough act to follow

[@sofias.8233]

it was hard, but I felt Sarah J. Maas’ trash calling

[@oof-rr5nf]

i on the other hand am stuck in a good omens but vines loop. they never stop coming.

[@avsambart]

I am going to watch that video right after this one....

[@laurenm354]

Sophya alias tea4soph oh my gosh I was just watching that video 😂😂

[@legumesss]

I think I will never read Sarah J. Maas but I hope that you will keep reading her books because your videos have me laughing so much. Actual. Audible. Laughs.

[@withcindy]

i suffer for your laughter

[@CarolineReadsbooks]

readwithcindy We appreciate it! 😂❤️

[@lordbaphie]

Same. Booktubers are my saving grace from horrible YAs and help me turn my library into a utopia of only great and awesome books. Saved money ✔ Saved my brain ✔ Saved my soul ✔

[@mad3739]

@@withcindy I worry for you my dear so allow me to give you a friendly reminder. DON'T EVER READ THRONE OF GLASS SERIES I HAVE GONE MAD WITH ONLY THE FIRST BOOK! DAMN YOU BOOKTWITTER!!! P.S. although I would love to hear your thoughts about The Cruel Tras-...I mean Prince. *coughs*

[@nekitsune7297]

@@withcindy suffer more 😂😂

[@Erin_P_xoxo]

“Wham bam SHAZAM” actually had me cry laughing

[@withcindy]

his IMPACT

[@ipshitabhattacharjee6911]

Same

[@samanthagreen576]

The fact that these are supposedly YA novels is why they aren't just straight erotica. It's also why a lot of the content is more problematic and gets a lot of hate. A lot of the relationships are at least a little unhealthy and 14 year olds are not emotionally mature enough to not take them at face value as good examples. Also, did you forget the whole thing in the first book where Rhysand drugged Feyra and pimped her out at parties? Cuz that was fucked up and now they're together and everybody is just ignoring that that ever happened and are all like "Wow Rhysand is so much better than that controlling freak Tamlin!"

[@AllDaGoodUsernamesWereTaken]

YOU SAID IT -FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT - My younger sister kept saying "he had to" whenever I brought it up before but I am so glad other people are bothered by that

[@unacethethicallypleasing9981]

Wait, I'm sorry, did you say 'pimp out'? Wow, I'm just gonna steer away from that dumpster fire.

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

So why would she make them YA novels rather than "Adult Dark Fantasy Romance" like Gena Showalter's "Lords Of The Underworld" series? (Showalter also writes YA) Don't bookshops have an "Adult Romance" section anymore?

[@sanna8451]

This. After reading the book I was pretty much prepared to kind of forgive Rhys for drugging and humiliating Feyre (as in made her wear revealing clothes and dance even though he didn't really touch her), I mean, I don't really mind a morally grey character that will do awful things to achieve their own goals but bugged me as hell that they never really talked about it at all, Feyre should at least give him some shit for it, not just.... never mention it?

[@laelna3032]

Sanna E he actually explains everything he did in the first book when he meets her at the house and she accepts the mate bond. He explains the drugging at parties too, even though it is a questionable explanation lmao but at least he explains everything he did

[@PetalsAndPlague]

Tell don't show, a summary of all Sarah J. Maas books. You want a strong female character? Well Maas will beat you over the head with how "strong" Feyre is. Does she do anything strong? Maas sure tells she does. You want a badass female assassin? Maas will use the word at least once a page between three ellipses and seven dashes. Will Celaena ever kill anyone for money? Nope. Will she use a disciplined mind and skill set? Nope but she'll eat candy and get self righteous. "What's King's Champion but a dressed up word for murderer?" Bitch...- you have told me you're an assassin so many times that the word doesn't even sound like a word anymore. Your high horse is bigger than Rhysand's mountain shaking ding dong.

[@mapotofu1841]

Holy shit you just described every problem I had with Throne of Glass and Celaena as;ldjfds

[@arianakarla1259]

facts just FACTS

[@MrAmansa12345]

She kept writing how Mor was like the the resort in battle if both Azriel and Cassian were gone, but Mor never did anything more than regular fighting in battle.... so like... what was supposed to be so above and beyond she was the resort for Rhysand??

[@nayrarodriguez3385]

@@MrAmansa12345 THISSSSSS. In ACOWAR, Mor fought like everyone else. I was so confused because she described her as stronger than both Cassian and Azriel and basically they all did the same

[@theangrypotato1525]

DAMN you really woke up and said facts today

[@reagansimmons9926]

“Bon apetit? More like bon apple-tit” -Cindy Pham 2k19

[@_eko_ill.1779]

*bone apple-tiddy

[@amelia4384]

@@_eko_ill.1779 I cannot hear the word tiddy without thinking of big tiddy liddy :(

[@bunbunluv03]

No one: The mountains: 🤪

[@withcindy]

RIP the mountain villagers

[@marianvega2299]

Me: loves this trashy book series as someone loves disgusting comfort food 🍆 Also me: this video is COMEDY GOLD and I cannot argue one single argument that you have. Embrace the D 🍆 Honestly, "Feyre grew two braincells and Rhysand took a women studies class" should be the official goodreads sinopsis 😂😂😂

[@withcindy]

its my blurb on the back of the book

[@ninasfelicillow3228]

I can’t remember the artists name but your profile pic is my favourite of his artworks! I have it on my computer!

[@Vi-wk2tc]

same lol

[@stormhaas7327]

I remember I read the first book and was like yeah I mean it's ok, not as good as throne of glass series in my opinion, but yeah its aight. Then I read the second book at got to the smut (keep in mind I was like... 14 at the time and didn't realize it was more erotic because her throne of glass series isn't as descriptive for the first couple books) and was like whooo boy that some hot tamales, so when the third book came out I was like yes, I am here for the rhysand D give it to meee

[@3ndt4p3s]

Literally just finished this book, gave it 5 stars yet here I am agreeing 100% with Cindy

[@ruchikacalton2424]

From Tamlin's perspective... --- Rhys, the conniving and powerful prince, befriended his out of nowhere --- Rhys killed his family --- Rhys took every opportunity to berate Tamlin for his family's deaths, something that would not have been under his control (we are never told Tamlin's side of the story because we need Feyre to feel bad for Rhys and hate Tam...even thought Rhys also killed Tamlin's family ) --- Rhys sides with Amaranth for 50 years doing her dirty work (he wasn't the only high lord with his court at stake, yet he was the only one to turn a-hole to others, I feel bad for the people he killed more than I feel for him ) --- Rhys was mostly loyal only to Amaranth - someone who had forced Tamlin to send his men out to die (and dont tell me he asked for it, while the narrative tries to pin the blame on Tamlin, when Amy asked him to become her lover he refused and she *cursed* him, it wasn't a bargain, you don't ask to be cursed. And what was he to do? Submit to her? He and Rhys were in different positions politically, he did the right thing by showing some backbone.) --- Tam had to watch as him men got killed, one after another just for a fleeting hope of freedom for all the courts. --- one of his best friends was killed and skinned by the women he was supposed to make fall in love with him (remember when this super relevent before the same book for got it happened, think Cassian or Azrial dying like that.) Think it didn't affect Tamlin at all? --- *the fact he fell in love with the woman who killed his friend should tell you how bad a place he is in right now* --- Rhys made - for all Tam knew, since he does not know they were mates - the woman Tam loved into a sex object and paraded her around like a stripper, drugged her, controlled her through her mind like a puppet to make her dance for him until she was ill enough to throw up, then did it again night after night - for all Tamlin knew, because she was his lover. --- after losing everyone he loved, he had to watch the woman he loved tortured and killed,after being stabbed through the chest. --- Rhys took his bride, against her will - I believe that's called kidnap - from their wedding for all he knows is to just taunt him. --- everyone keeps talking down at Tamlin cause he didn't fightRhys from taking Feyre, but weren't we told many time how dangerous it is to break a bargain. --- Rhys calls Tamlin 'warmonger' but, Tam was the one who tried to negotiate out of the bargain while Rhys kept trying to make him submit to him not like an ally but as a lesser, that negotiate would have gone better is Rhys didn't keep having to dick-measue all the time. --- Rhys can CHANGE MINDS, and has done so multiple times and unapologetically through out the book, yet the novel treats Tams suspicions of him altered Feyre's mind as nonsensical, which it is not - it's actually very believable. --- I heard people say that Tam sold out her sisters but as far as I remember Tamlin fought *for* her sister when they were about to be tossed into the cauldron, telling the king to stop. --- was it not super obvious that Tamlin was going to double-cross Hyburn the way Rhysand did with Amaranth while also getting back - what he believes - his kidnapped and brainwashed lover. Using two powerful foes against each other. Because Tam - rightly so - believes Rhys to be his enemy, and does not trust him (Rhys did side with Amaranthat and turned against the other courts for his own court, why should now be any different. ) Yeah...I can see why Tam hates Rhys. And as someone who started the series hating Tamlin, somehow he ended up being the only character I was rooting for, not as a love interest (i wouldn't plague my enemies with Feyre) but as a person. That's talent on the author's end I guess. Even so his decisions are the ones that make the most sense to me in the whole series People act like he got what he deserved... and I can't. He's not abusive --- he's suffering. He's the abused. Vilifying someone who is clearly in need of help was just ... wrong to me. In my eyes its Rhys who is the abuser. People say he had valid explanations for what he did but to me it was just so contrived and fake, they weren't 'valid', but really ridiculous

[@ruchikacalton2424]

I had some bitterness 😅

[@victoriabeke6544]

THANK YOU!!! I 100 percent agree. People keep saying Tam is abusive because he is breathing down Feyre’s neck all the time, but they both pretty much have PTSD, and a horrible lack of communication. Not saying that Tam is not at any fault, of course. Both Feyre and Tam are partially at fault for the lack of communication in their relationship (which can be done even without sharing sensitive information). But the reader sides with Feyre, and often only sees her suffering more due to Tamlin’s actions, without also looking at Feyre’s own actions. AGH!

[@Amorfis]

"I wouldnt plague my enemies with feyre" SCREAMING I'm so glad someone else hates feyre as much as I do lmao

[@rajhaze]

I strongly agree

[@rue483]

THIS THIS THIS gosh it made me so mad when tamlin got written off as the one in their relationship who had all the problems, when they both suffered from PTSD and bad communication and I wish we were able to switch POVS bc it feels like we're not allowed to understand what it's like for other characters, like what Feyre feels is what we're supposed to feel, but OFC it's not a surprise that Tamlin hates Rhys??? ANYONE in his situation would, but all of that is somehow inconceivable to feyre! like I get that you love him, but you can't overlook the fact that Rhys HAS done some p Bad Shit to him! also "I wouldn't plague my enemies with Feyre" GOD SAME staying in this girl's head for so long makes it hard to root for her

[@KoiinuNe]

“Somewhere between the first and second book Rhysand took a women’s studies freshman seminar at a community college and now he's woke." "I love it when a woman is independent now that a man allows her to be." i'm weak xDDDD

[@Tamar-ph8ov]

I didn’t cared about Tamlin or Rhys, but I hated that Sjm took Tamlin who obviously suffered from PTSD and turned him to a villain. Oh and your video was hilarious

[@withcindy]

thats true. i didnt see his behavior as abusive but he def suffered from PTSD

[@SterlingCalm]

what da faaaaaaaaaa same

[@starbittenpixieboy]

And Elaine with her depression too

[@starbittenpixieboy]

@@Aisuki-suki hard agree

[@StreamHGF]

Hold up, thanks for pointing this out, we never got to understand that he really suffered too

[@NerdsBehavingBadly]

I really dont' like how SJM does fairies, they're basically just powered people who are super sexy, you never get the sense that they're a different race of people with a different mentality and culture. You just wonder why even have people called fae at all

[@withcindy]

very true. thats why i loved the portrayal of them in an enchantment of ravens

[@earlybirdie03]

For all the growling, snarling, hissing, claw-baring, stalking, and furry shape-shifting they do, one wonders why maas didn't just publish the series as yet another werewolf/were-animal paranormal bang-bang trilogy in an over-saturated adult romance market--ah wait nvm I answered my question

[@theSoundOfAWomanWhoLovesYou]

Same. Like the only time any of her characters acknowledge the difference in age/race it’s because some old as fuck dude is dating a teenager but it’s ok because the teenager is fae now.

[@scionsilverbeat8149]

Which is why i like Throne of Glass better. I think cause she started TOG without smut...the fact that she actually had plot...she HAD NO CHOICE but to syill focus on plot by the end of the series. She added the smut eventually, but she wasnt ALLOWED to focus on it😂 So her fae there are thankfully about more then just...the bedroom 😂😂😂 (except for Rowan, HE might as well be a characater feom ACOTAR)

[@babielambi]

Right? fae have so much potential, I personally prefer Holly Black over this author because the way she describes faeries and other creatures it's more than just "they are pretty and strong" their minds actually scare you, the way they manipulate humans is pretty accurate with how I imagined. It's not the best, but so far she is good for a modern fantasy book. One can compare her with Cassandra Clare, but the only thing I really like about CC is the way she wrote faeries and nothing more. The rest is just cliché while Holly Black book feels like another fairytale to add to my collection

[@blondealbino3652]

This is 20 minutes of pure truth- bringing an individual down just to make another look decent isn’t good writing. It feels forced af. But ngl the sex scenes feel like they came straight out of Wattpad.

[@withcindy]

at least the sex scenes are entertaining

[@chicorish_]

It was a Wattpad book originally lol

[@blondealbino3652]

@Bookworm 678 wtf no way

[@chicorish_]

@@blondealbino3652 Yeah, a lot of Wattpad books have been published in the last 2 years or so

[@chicorish_]

@@aj_814 Same but I was 11

[@marjjjeyy919]

The only reason SJM classifies these as “YA” is bc most adults that aren’t 14 year olds understand a bad relationship when they see one

[@Aree.]

there it is. the reason why its a popular YA amongst kids and notorious among adults.

[@kgal1298]

Some people put Colleen Hoover in YA too and I'm like "umm" I can't read her books, but it's wild to me when I see 15 year olds reading it and I'm like ummm. Maybe it's because I know what abuse looks like now as an adult after having been in two relationships like that. One when I was 16 and dated someone who had no fucking reason to be dating someone that was 16 and another with someone the same age that would manipulate me and gaslight me.

[@passionfruitandbooks4689]

Remember, Cindy. Whether or not you read the third book is YOUR CHOICE!

[@withcindy]

is it tho??? is it really???

[@ZwischenTausendZeilen]

OMG. The situation at your work place gave me anxiety 😨

[@withcindy]

i'm used to it

[@ZwischenTausendZeilen]

@@withcindy Good for you, girl! :)

[@reagansimmons9926]

No one: Cindy: 😝🤙🏼

[@withcindy]

😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼😝🤙🏼

[@MyNameIsConnieB]

the moment you started talking about the earthquake in california i knew what was coming, just like rhysand

[@withcindy]

i--

[@nycpizzarat]

"That kids is called foreshadowing, cuz he 'bout to eat real good" CINDY, MY GOD, STAHP!

[@withcindy]

WELL I'M RIGHT AREN'T I?

[@rue483]

a couple of things w this book that ground my gears -the worldbuilding was inconsistent (why was Feyre wearing a sweater and leggings?? what era is this??) -the Inner Circle Info Dump Dinner bc it seems like the only way to learn abt anything in this series is to have it spoken over pages and pages of monologue from 3 different characters -WHY DID THE KING JUST. LET THEM GO??? -imo rhysand became hard to root for once he became less of a morally grey character and more of a pedestal in the author's effort to prove how much better and woke he was than tamlin, to the point where you can't really find a flaw with him. it felt like Rhysand = good, Tamlin = bad, with nothing in between

[@aicha454]

Ikr! Everyone is a mixed bag and just making people on two opposite extremes is unrealistic and bad writing. Book one Rhysand, while he was creepy (Under The Mountain stuff? That was gross) was the best version of Rhys from the whole series. I was intrigued by him, you never really knew his next move. But then, SJM, who is a better than Shakespeare could ever be (🙄), had to ruin everything. Like really? Consistency would be nice, thanks.

[@megan2118]

Her outfits bothered me so much!' I started just making up my own outfits for her in my head lol they made no sense

[@onescentperbook]

I think something that made me the most annoyed is the political / economical part of it. Like why is paying taxes bad all of a sudden? How did Rhysand get money if he doesn’t charge taxes? I feel like if he ain’t getting taxes then he’s stealing or something - maybe the night court is larger because he happened to colonise a part of it with natural resources or something. We will never know… Also how are fish and jewels valued the same in this world???

[@AJ-hc2jj]

Thank you for saying this! It got really annoying how much the author tried to make Tamlin look bad. Like he didn't go through horrible things under the mountain as well. She switched up too quickly for me....tamlin and Lucieon are the bad guys

[@googleplussucks9567]

not a single detail about how they run their kingdoms makes a lick of sense. Starting with how they seem to make all political decisions with their good friends, and arguments with a 19 year old woman who only found out their land existed less than a year ago. It's still enjoyable somehow idk

[@ayemousel]

Okay, so you suffered from reading book 2, now you should go and read book 3, to be part of our group, aka: The Suffering Elite.

[@withcindy]

i'll do it if skillshare pays me again

[@evies.1018]

But do we make her read ACOFAS??

[@ayemousel]

@@evies.1018 I don't know dude, I couldn't get past the " flying while having sex" thing. ACOFAS is another level

[@evies.1018]

SoumiReeeds I read it out of spite and quite near DNFed it during the sex scene with Feysand’s baby and Rhys...well...🍾😬

[@ayemousel]

@@evies.1018 I never got past chapter 9 go ACOFAS, too much for me XD

[@hellothere2464]

My friends got really mad at me for not liking this book and you voiced all my thoughts exactly so I’ll be showing this to them

[@withcindy]

im here to ruin friendships

[@hellothere2464]

readwithcindy I’m the one who should be reevaluating friendships at this point

[@archerarcher9792]

Omg same, except it was the first book and I refused to read the second one.

[@mellowchamallow9699]

I won't show them the review bc I still care about our friendship :') but yeah I trusted them enough to actually read ACOMAF and surprise surprise, I hated it more than the first book, and for that, I say chapeau. You've outdone yourself SJM (:

[@AryaBeltaine]

same thing happened to me lmaoo i couldn't get through the first half of the first book, can't believe i blew $40 to buy the first two books :-I

[@JesseOnYoutube]

'i love it when a woman is independent when a man allows her to be' u are FYRED lmaoo

[@withcindy]

seems fitting since i'm Team Fire Sign

[@theslyfox6043]

If Tamlin had a wingspan the series would've be over very quickly.

[@olyviagregg2778]

“If any of my coworkers are watching this...don’t look me in the eye tomorrow”

[@mims6274]

"Wow, Rhysand invented feminism *clap clap*" hahahahahahahaha LITERALLY

[@withcindy]

We love an icon

[@Kaastengels]

I don't trust every single soul who says "SJM's 2nd,3rd,4rd books are sooooo much better, give it a chance!" period.

[@withcindy]

i will never trust anyone again

[@Kaastengels]

@@withcindy good choice Cindy

[@jamietowns8195]

One thing I can't stand about this book if the fact that they villanized a victim. Tamlin was clearly suffering mentally. That does not make him a bad person And I hate the bullshit people say about "Fayre told him to leave her alone and he didn't" because news flash! TAMLIN DID NOT KNOW FEYRE COULD READ OR WRITE! Of course he would keep trying to get her back, he probably thought she was being held hostage or some shit. We get spoon fed Feyre's point of view but from Tamlins point of view His fiance was taken from him by the man who killed his family and who he believed to be pretty awful of a person. If any normal person was in his circumstance with someone they love of course they would go above and beyond to get that person back If the book was written from his point of view, his actions would be seen as romantic But no It's from Feyre's point of view and she stopped thinking anything good about him the moment she decided Rhys's castle was cooler. I don't like Tamlin But I despise Feyre and Rhysand.

[@JM-vr1br]

Don’t we all?😂

[@PichuElric]

You spoke my whole heart

[@goodnight-moon564]

I never plan to read the books, but you are absolutely right

[@firstnamelastname9900]

I'm not saying that Tamling didn't have his issues, but his perspective is understandable. And what about damn communication and working things through together? She spoke up only about a mere fraction of what's bothering her when they had an argument. He agreed to work on it. And made attempts. She clearly mentioned some instances. Then he messed up, by locking her up at home. I agree that it's wrong ,and I understand her being mad, but he had trauma that doesn't just magicaly go away in a second and she was aware of it. And she had her trauma and issues too. What Feyre desided to do instead of communicating, trying to find ways to work though their issues, establish healthy boundaries e.t.c? She just ran away and jumped on to Rhys. Moved on so so quickly from supposedly love of her life she gone through trials and fought for. Amarantha was horrible , but she was spot on with the comment about having a fickle heart. Plus at the beginning of the book, she led Tamlin on, then was about to dump him on their wedding (over things she swept under the rug and never bothered to adress) instead of again, talking things out, and ending the relationship properly if it needed to be done. And she had entitled +shallow moments tbh.

[@HuckleberryCyn]

My skin: Clear My crops: Watered My depression: Cured Seriously, I hated this book and I felt like I was losing my mind because I felt like I was the only one that did.

[@withcindy]

you are not alone!!

[@phoenixshadow1290]

I really admire people who admit that they are writing smut, because they’re being honest and doing what they like.

[@carahamelie]

I live for this book and I am not at all sorry.... lol. But I do love a good roast of it... especially by Cindy.

[@withcindy]

it's what i'm here for

[@Cleofae]

Haha same here :)

[@aahana4931]

I read the entire series for Nesta and I'm not even sorry 🗿

[@abbyc9924]

I read these books like, “Yep, this is garbage, but I fucking love it”

[@joyp.8619]

Sameee

[@jennahackeman6643]

10/10 content go off cindy we love you

[@withcindy]

i love u jenna

[@RubyDianArts]

The airhorns followed by a smash cut to suffering silence was the best thing 😂

[@withcindy]

Suffering silence is the best term to call it

[@AugustAnne8]

“On her wedding day... she’s in her head screaming, ‘Get me the fuck out of here, I don’t want to do this, get me out!’, which is weird because I was thinking the same thing while reading this book.” 🤣🤣🤣

[@KK-ex9uc]

Also let's never forget how Feyre in the first book accepted that Tamlin couldn't do anything Under the Mountain because he had a whole Court to lose while she had only him, then whined on the other books how he never lifted a finger at all and how it was dashing great wonderful Rhysand- whose people he held dear were safe and protected and out of Amarantha's clutches- who went up and attacked Amarantha!!

[@sailormoon6505]

When you said Feyre gets with Rhys because Tamlin was too vanilla in bed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@withcindy]

i aint wrong

[@tia3509]

TBH I was one of the people saying you should read ACOMAF but it was because I knew it was terrible and wanted a rant video from you :)

[@withcindy]

you.... you did this to me

[@tia3509]

@@withcindy I thank you for your suffering, I thoroughly enjoyed this video!

[@Starrytiina]

honestly, the "your choice" bits kinda irked me becuz I really saw what Sarah J Maas was tryna do there but I just couldn't click with it, it was far too forced as you said.

[@withcindy]

yes exactly, it was so tacked on that i was like OK WE GET IT

[@samanthaallen3061]

Rhys always sounds so passive aggressive whenever he says it’s “her choice” which is also kiiiiiiinda abusive. Just a bit. Just a smidgen.

[@DarwinRoger893]

No one tell Sarah J Maas that Rhys not taking taxes from his people means he gets money by nefarious ways, which is far worse than Tamlin taking taxes

[@myratogonon]

That's just a theory... in the books it was said that Rhys and his inner circle are powerful beings, they could easily help out on magically constructing things. The absence of taxation is likely balanced by alternative systems, such as tribute from the Court of Nightmares as stated in the books and possibly magical enhancements by Rhysand himself and his inner circle. Being everyone in Velaris is into arts, community building etc one could imagine the land as simply self-sustaining... not everything is about money :) especially in fiction..

[@BookedWithJameelah]

I loved a court of mist and fury lol but this roasting was of the finest quality ever. I nearly cried laughing 😂 no lies were told in this video. 💕✨

[@withcindy]

glad u still enjoyed it

[@chelseawritesbooks8763]

Same!! 😂🤣

[@perimortem5241]

Big same, I'm rereading the series again, and i just wanna breeze thru ACOTAR to get to ACOMAF, but this was top tier roasts hahaha

[@americanchic1101]

ACOMAF is so far up my Sarah J ass that it cannot be removed and I don't care. I also loved this video.

[@starbittenpixieboy]

@@americanchic1101 OH MY GOD

[@what._.2285]

I actually liked Tamlin so much - but SJM tried so frickin' hard to make him the bad guy that it was controversial to root for him... i never liked Feyre and i thought her relationship with Tamlin was rushed. As much as i liked tamlin it was hard to dismiss the fact that meeting and courting Feyre was carefully planned by tamlin and that's not how relationships should be. Part of me thought he tried so hard to love her and make her love him back just to break the curse and so the relationship wasn't genuine. But at the end of the day I'm just glad he didn't end up with feyre cause he deserves better.

[@shinonnaman5529]

Yeah. I wouldn't wish feyre on anybody

[@kosmic100]

but then he became abusive so idk, but my god feyre leaving him is like a mercy for him lmfao

[@Phantom_Fireside]

WHOLE HEARTDLY AGREE

[@RedHairedRiot]

Your analysis on Rhysand and and his women's study class had me rolling--you made me realize he's the Noah Centineo of this series "I want you splayed out on the table like my own person feast" ...maam this is a wendys

[@lexinicole98]

That line got me😂😂

[@redpandas5301]

The amount of times feyre ‘bleated’ in this book made me actually wonder whether one of the powers she got was becoming a goat

[@georgiatsambis]

Guys I know: “Women aren’t funny” readwithcidy: hold my books Me laughing my ass off

[@epikkgaymer6068]

G. T. Men who say women aren’t funny don’t have anything funny to say themselves. Which is why it’s sad. At least if they had any sense for comedy at all, they could possibly have even the slightest say in the matter. Alas, they do not

[@javierlopez9789]

​@@epikkgaymer6068yeah sorry but no, women arent funny.

[@letiziageltz1782]

Love the fact that Sarah J Maas changed the haircolour of that evil chick (forgot her name) at least three times ("The red roses remind me of her hair" "It's golden like her hair" "Her haircolour reminds me of an oil slick")

[@Phantom_Fireside]

Oh god really

[@elfodelputoinfierno]

Maybe.... She had like rainbow dash hair idk??

[@sammccaffery4742]

Tamlin was done so dirty. Some of his was realistic. Like if someone you loves dies and comes back to life, it's natural you'll feel very protective of them for quite a while. But it was so out of character for him to lock her in the house and not let her leave.

[@marielle_critique35]

I Agree and Love ur Comment. 🙂

[@KaiInMotion]

Okay as far as Rhys painting on her body during sex goes, I'll admit I DO prefer the abridged version where he just writes "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" and I DID think it was more honest to the core of the character but you can't win em all

[@withcindy]

im tired of feyres body being used as a cheat sheet for his final exams

[@haggisa]

Kai Bishop Oh god, you made me laugh like a maniac with the “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams.” Priceless. Rhysand’s all: open your eyes, sheeple, Tamlin was behind 9/11 all along!!!1!

[@dr.wyverstone8418]

When fanfictions embrace being trashy erotica moreso than an actual novel that should've been just trashy erotica you know there's a problem.

[@californiapoppyseed6960]

having read acomaf and acowar and watching this over again sjm really missed an opportunity for tamlin and feyre to work through it and break up peacefully and so she can go with rhysand... or just, like, work through things with tamlin

[@gildedwolves]

i had similar thoughts on this omg. like suddenly tamlin was this whole different person just so feyre and rhysand could get together. it felt so forced. also the sex scenes were so unnecessary and weird kdjdkd

[@withcindy]

if ur gonna write sex scenes might as well go all the way

[@SincerelyTahiry]

I JUST WANNA PUT THIS ON RECORD THAT I WARNED YOU THAT ACOMAF WAS TRASHHHHH every time I say this people get offended 😭😭😭😭 but I preferred ACOTAR and highkey think SJM should’ve let it as a stand alone novel/ beauty and the beast retelling

[@easilydistractedauthor]

I didn't like ACOTAR, but I agree that it should have been a standalone!

[@withcindy]

i prefer ACOTAR too when there was a bit of potential still left

[@JuliaRizzuto]

Agreed should’ve been a stand alone

[@reder1155]

"I don't know the economy in fairyland" I DIES OH MY GOD 🤣

[@withcindy]

im guessing they have no economy since the worldbuilding is nonexistent

[@kendalw.8403]

The big issue I had with this book was that Feyre seemed to only blame Tamlin as the reason that thier relationship didnt work. Tamlin and Feyre both had PTSD. They both lacked the correct communication skills to express themselves in the relationship. They both were hurting but neither of them really wanted to listen. Yea sure Feyre tried to talk to Tamlin but she stopped after a couple tries like you dont give up on someone you supposedly love. She also never told Tamlin that she developed claustrophobia after being under the mountain how was he supposed to know that locking her up would trigger that. No I don't agree that he should have it but he shouldn't be villanized because of it.

[@KK-ex9uc]

Communication 101 amirite

[@Antiech0]

He shouldn’t be villanized for locking someone up against their will?! What?!

[@thrumugnyr]

I am still not over her never telling him she is triggered by the color red and then acting like he was a malicious villain for gifting her painting supplies.

[@ysang8010]

"The more d*ck joke I made, the more money I make" just killed me

[@crazyweirdgirl115]

I read this book a couple of months ago and have been suffering in silence since then. But the burden is easier to bear now that you have to live with it too.

[@withcindy]

misery loves company

[@ducklingugly6850]

Honestly. My favourite parts have got to be when you mention your coworkers. I am dead. I can even feel the second hand embarrassment ngl 😬😂

[@withcindy]

second hand embarrassment is just my life now

[@cosetteb.4940]

"I love it when a woman is independent now that a man allows her to be" that sHADE I chOKED (but not as hard as Feyre did on--) I totally agree with everything you said. I liked book 1 Tamlin and then all of the sudden he's weird and controlling? the thing is it would have been a great idea if aNY of this were executed well. I felt that Rhysand in this was given a *little* character (though most of it was making wisecracks and sex jokes) but any bit of genuine character he had gets killed off in later books. Also when this series was happening people would constantly talk about the "squad goals" and I have to laugh. You mean the most forgettable copy and paste characters? ...all right

[@withcindy]

omg i dont even remember ANY of the supporting characters lmao

[@cosetteb.4940]

@@withcindy I kNOW

[@joyp.8619]

I love the Suriel btw, he's the gossip bitch. Like... " oh, you didn't know?" SURPRISE BITCH

[@ohword9541]

Sarah J. Mass changing up her main character's love interest in the second book of both her series: 👀👄👀

[@bookswmadi]

Two things: 1) I READ AND ENCHANTMENT OF RAVENS AND I LOVED IT!! 2) ACoMaF is one of my fav books, but it feels like Maas just made atamlin abusive so Feyre could find out shes mates with Rhysand and we would all love him.

[@withcindy]

yea i think it wouldve been better if feyre simply realized that they were different people now without doing a total 180 character change on tamlin

[@aryanemarques2089]

I love rhysand and I am glad that he stopped being a villain after book 1, but I also liked tamlin, and I do think that what maas did to tamlin's character was very bad, she just put him as the villain so that rhys could easily be with feyre, I think that tamlin suffered from a lot of traumas that affected him a lot and this could have been a lot more explored, instead of just making him bad

[@jessicamota8031]

I dropped the first book halfway through it, everyone kept saying it gets better in the second but I have way too many trust issues to buy it. I'm glad I didn't bought it.

[@withcindy]

yea this aint it chief

[@Taemin9494-c2c]

"I can't believe Rhysand invented feminism" EYE-

[@withcindy]

👁️ cant believe it either

[@georgiaherondale5826]

readwithcindy BAHAHAHA

[@perryrhinitis]

Why is your sense of humor so on point The stock photos and screenshots you inserted in your review are *chef's kiss* perfection

[@jaqswang]

i literally read this entire 600+ page book just to understand this video to its full potential

[@dearartms]

"yoUr cHoIcE" 🤣🤣

[@withcindy]

we love a feminist

[@addisongeissler4387]

Feyre: are you ok? Person: you see, Perry the Platypus...

[@whoa9074]

Every single time when I start your videos I am somewhere public and my phone is so loud 😭😭😭 love you ❤️❤️❤️

[@withcindy]

put it on full volume you coward

[@whoa9074]

readwithcindy I was definitely at a school orientation 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@mw5218]

Rhysand is the kind of guy that doesn't understand why he can't 'give' people human rights.

[@MsLPSFOREVER]

One could argue that Tamlin developed borderline abusive behaviors and I understand Feyre wanting to get away from that, BUT it's also BECAUSE of Tamlin's PTSD that he developed these issues. If somebody could have reached out and helped him, he may have become a better character in the end. It would have been a MUCH BETTER development of his character than anything SJM actually did.

[@NatalieMosack]

I totally agree that Tamlin was suffering and that he needed help. But Feyre did try to communicate with him (even while she was suffering herself), and he continued to shut her out. He legit slept in a different room, ignored her screaming and throwing up every night from nightmares, and wouldn’t talk to her. All he would do was have sex with her and keep her in the castle. I don’t think Tamlin’s a villain, but I also think he made a lot of mistakes and is an interesting grey character. Also since he’s the head of his court, no one could really step in and make him get help, bc he’s the most powerful. Lucien tried to reason with him about Feyre, but he wouldn’t have it.

[@melh7421]

"somewhere between the first and second book rhysand took a womens studies freshman seminar at a community college.............and now hes woke" i d i e d jnfnjdj this video made my day thanks cindy 4 my life

[@withcindy]

he has a bachelors now

[@ashleyndhlovu3550]

"He about to eat real good" 💀💀💀💀

[@withcindy]

he nasty

[@RevanSurik]

I used to think I would never see a character assassination as brutal as the one Daenerys Targaryen suffered in Game of Thrones Season 8... Until I saw Tamlin in ACOMAF lol

[@sleepyghostgirl]

The way she leans back and adjusts her glasses in the beginning has displeased grandma energy

[@arielreads]

literally within the first 1:30 i am CRYING/LAUGHING oh my gooood😩😩 that editing tho 🤪🤙🏻

[@withcindy]

If Ya KnOw WhAt i MeAn HaHa 🤪🤙🏻

[@arlessanda]

This whole video I was picturing Cinderella characters because of the fairly godmother and now Cinderella is ruined forever

[@withcindy]

youre welcome

[@zarasenpai379]

"wham, bam, SHAZAM!" Omfg😂😂😂😂

[@withcindy]

his dick is a genie

[@timefliesaway999]

Ok lol you want to tell me that feyra was ready to kill herself and other people and basically let the whole world burn, just to save Tamlin, only to end up with Rhyson? I’m glad I didn’t enjoy the 1st book enough to even think about reading the 2nd book.

[@barbieandthediamondcastle]

Also.... isn’t feyre like 19 and Rhys like 600 years old or something???? How about n o.

[@BlackCampariBlue]

I thought Stephenie Meyer established that thats ok

[@aicha454]

@@BlackCampariBlue mhm, yes, Meyers, the Queen of literature.

[@ella353]

I saw Sarah J. Maas at a book festival a couple years ago. I've looked this woman in the eye.

[@thanderlin4058]

...what was it like?

[@ella353]

Thander Lin I thought it was pretty alright. It was a while ago, so I don’t remember what she talked about.

[@thanderlin4058]

@@ella353 Haha cool - I've never read the books nor know anything about this series, so all of this is quite curious to me.