UAW Local 12 president explains halted production of Jeep Gladiator, Wrangler at Toledo plant

Production of both vehicles has been on pause since Monday at the Toledo Assembly Complex.

[@tsmith20098]

😂😂😂😂 he's lying, they just aren't selling

[@sharkparty1027]

@tsmith20098 no one is buying insane overpriced junkies anymore. So how can they sell?

[@jeffmacey6482]

Who lies more the union the Auto industry or the media? 🤷

[@dyates6380]

Exactly. I drove past a dealership the other day and they couldn't fit ONE more vehicle on the lot. Stellantis is garbage.

[@moth450]

Uaw put themselves out of work. Stellantis product is dated. Msrp is too high. Dealers are shady for extra mark ups

[@moth450]

​@@jeffmacey6482 they one in the same

[@wackingjack]

Truth is, over priced stuff isn't selling, not to mention some quality concerns!

[@j.alonsogonzalez277]

Thats exactly right.

[@countdankula6740]

You mean you don’t wanna pay $120k for something that won’t last 3 years? 😢

[@wackingjack]

@@countdankula6740 decision was up in the air, but NO!😄

[@Network126]

Yes exactly 💯

[@rectorkirk1158]

Maybe good quality on tuesdays ? Maybe thursdays ? 😅 Yeah the supply of money to run production has shut off.

[@sharkparty1027]

*Keep charging those INSANE markups.*

[@bruno2235]

Even before the markups are the INSANE MSRP's to begin with.

[@lot2196]

They left the average person behind.

[@2000det]

Stillantis....Should only "Special Order" those fully loaded vehicles...Building them and forcing the dealers to buy them is crazy...100k for a jeep product is crazy

[@derek9063]

They are trying to make the wrangler and gladiator a luxury brand. That is not their consumer base. They missed the mark. They are finding out the hard way.

[@countdankula6740]

@@derek9063don’t forget that huge pos wagoneer 😂

[@warrenjansen7096]

He's absolutely right about a supply chain shortage. There are not enough customers to supply their chain of vehicles!

[@stevekimsey2800]

$50-$70k Jeeps are the problem. Someone should tell them the supply chain chain issue is over and they can return prices to normal now.

[@CT55550]

The value of the dollar has lost 20% since 2020 so a $35,000 jeep should now cost around $42,000. But with a couple extra features your hitting $50,000 quick.

[@Network126]

​​@@CT55550 Then why are most people struggling financially now with affording basic essentials? I'm living in my car now. I work and pay bills and contribute to society. Must be Bidenomics 😆

[@CT55550]

@@Network126 Because are corrupt system wants to keep us working. The last 30 or 40 years corporate profits have skyrocketed 3,000% and the minimum wage only like 20%…

[@ethanbailey3354]

No worries, the ceo got a 45 percent raise

[@RedtideFla]

HEY, BEING THE CEO IS DIFFICULT. YOU HAVE BOOZE IN THE OFFICE, SHORT SKIRTS, AND ALL THE PARTIES. THEN WE HAVE TO PLAY GOLF. CEOS NEED DOUBLE RAISES.

[@johnnym7439]

@@RedtideFla that sounds exhausting.

[@2148aa]

He is good. He can talk that BS with a straight face.

[@Maybe1Someday]

Long life of being a liar and drinking. Id hate to be one of his family members...

[@sundancer3700]

He is a Shawn Fain lying puppet.

[@scottdennis6415]

Must be a dem a rat lol

[@dirf554]

The gladiator is a life style truck. For the kind of money they want you can buy a full size pickup truck and get more use from. Their pricing is insane but then again so is everything.?.? It’s sad

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

They will be making a hybrid, which will cost more and I’m sure be a money pit when it breaks. See 1:27

[@alp3781]

Simply, correct!!!

[@largol33t1]

Um, even MID size pickups are selling for the price of the Gladiator everywhere I looked. I bet a full size costs thousands more. I saw '23 GMC Canyons averaging $45-65K in my state. I saw Ford F150s averaging $65-90K at a stealership lot that was overflowing with inventory. They even blocked off the road between the lines of vehicles with more vehicles! They clearly are not selling...

[@leom925]

Just keep B S ING Everyone

[@markbradley2407]

People are not going to spend $80,000 on a $35,000 vehicle!!

[@christopherkeene3647]

Yes they will 🎉.

[@esousa486]

@@christopherkeene3647 Well .... the world is never short of morons ...... LOL 🤣🤣🤣😉

[@ROBMACDUI]

@@christopherkeene3647clearly they’re not if Jeep is shutting down production.

[@jeesmith99]

Amen.

[@lawerancelanham]

They shouldn't. Those that do, are the problem.

[@BillyT531]

They are too expensive and a hybrid model is another disaster.

[@brutemegahunk3895]

Price, price, price, and oh yeah, price.

[@DBene-br7xo]

Here’s what I heard “ Lie, Lie, lie, I don’t want a lie anymore so we need to sell the remaining 24s because we have 300 days of inventory.” Sounds like, we aren’t making them now because at their current price of ridiculous no one is buying them.

[@dustincollins16]

They have so many 23s and 24s on the lots they may as well just skip 2025 all together and resume production for 2026 model year

[@rodeleon2875]

the dealer near me has the front, sides and back lots full of those things. i stopped and looked real quick at the price on one and it was $63k. who the fugg do they think they're kidding with these overpriced POS toys? from what i hear these things have some serious issues. good concept and should be about $32k if they were reliable but $63k? give me a friggen break.

[@tadroid3858]

Have you seen the car lots? They're ridiculously priced, and they are selling. UAW guy is lying. Gladiators are expensive, small and underpowered. Stellantis is killing these brands.

[@nordlandak6853]

Overpriced by 25k. That’s the problem….

[@jimafton5659]

@@nordlandak6853 ..... Maybe 35 K

[@greglane3978]

$25K ? Try overpriced by $50K.

[@cinemabunny]

Sales are down 21% last quarter. Time for Stellantis and the UAW to step back and rethink the pricing and product positioning to save what they have.

[@jeepthing98]

You mean the average working man can't afford an $85,000 4XE Wrangler?

[@dustincollins16]

My local dealer has 4xe wranglers marked down to 51k and still can't sell them. They have been sitting for 2 months with the marked down price.

[@masterskrain2630]

Here's an idea...try pricing them so people CAN AFFORD TO BUY THEM!! $50.000+ for a jeep is insane!

[@shaynelhta]

Going to a union rep for an honest answer is like asking the fox why he needs in the hen house.

[@moth450]

Stupid uaw contract put themselves out of work. Dated product. Overpriced. Shady dealerships. Foreign owned. Hybrid? Jack the stickers up more

[@Maybe1Someday]

Wait your telling me it wasnt a good idea to sell some junk Jeeps at $80k and 12% or more financing for 8 years?

[@jagjr6772]

If the consumer is stupid enough to buy it at those markups then Stellantis and the dealerships will keep doing it.

[@largol33t1]

I can't believe anyone would finance this junk...

[@289Mustang67]

@@jagjr6772 Problem is their customers WERE buying overpriced vehicles. Now that has slacked off, the company is in trouble.

[@andrewtamkin2511]

local dealer here has Gladiators that have been sitting for over 1 year. There are still 23 models that are still not sold.

[@largol33t1]

Same at stealerships in my state. A Ford lot was packed full with '23 F150s that aren't selling. Why? Well, the $59,000 price tag probably says something.... PS: I laugh when people say "Buy a Honda and stop complaining." Yeah, Accords are also selling for over $50k too and don't get me started on Toyota.

[@fussa6013]

Stellantis has run prices up to the point people don’t want to buy them. It’s that simple.

[@gimcrack555]

I never bought a brand new car in my entire life. They were always to high for me. Just bought a 2016 Jeep Patriot for $8,500 and it's a great shape car. Very happy with my purchase. At least it was in my price range.

[@Dane-o7q]

We don't want hybrids. we want affordable, dependable vehicles!

[@HondaRidea]

Even if i was a millionaire id never spend more than $50k on a truck…..period

[@Cucumberflavoredmustard]

I can confirm this.

[@UncleFjester]

I used to say that too, Now I'm Old, Rich AF and my watches cost more than $50K

[@timalan7406]

I am, and I only spend money on trucks that produce a return.

[@dustyburner]

Has nothing to do with the glut of Jeeps still sitting on the lots.

Yes it does. That's how a business works. If you want to make profit, you have to be able to sell your wares. When you got a bunch of metal rotting away on lots getting a sun tan from multiple model years, there's a problem.

[@fredted1611]

My local dealer has 40 wranglers and gladiators combined. And it's September 🤣

@@fredted1611 not mine. And I'm right outside metro Detroit. Come on down. Take your pick. We got Wranglers, Gladiators, Rams, Cherokees, Durango's, Chargers, etc as far as the eye can see. Pick you favorite color right off the lot or off of our 2 overflow lots. Not interested in a 2025??? No problems we got you covered with model years as far back as 2022!!!! And guess what??? It's like that at every fuckin single one of them in my area. The dealer closest to me is in quite the affluent suburb of Detroit. So plenty of money and still nobody wants them. You can think whatever you like, but I'm an electrician that wasted the last 5 years of my life working for FCA/Stellantis at Jefferson North. Quit in July. Laziest and most incompetent people I have ever worked with.

[@LostandFoundTravel]

Maybe the answer is more dash duckies.

[@cockyhemi]

😂

[@puffnstuff12]

Let all of the auto makers go the way of the dodo bird for their greed.

[@lot2196]

Let BYD come to America. I can't afford anything the Big Three produces anymore. Wasn't my decision.

[@dyates6380]

Are the union workers who went on strike for a ridiculous compensation package (based on skill level) greedy too, or only the companies? High school graduates who work an assembly line are worth, with benefits, $100 an hour? BTW, I'm a high school graduate too, and no more, but I'm not stupid and understand compensation and how it works. I'd say based on what they're paying the workers, they have to charge a lot for the cars and trucks, no? Let's not just put it on the companies here if we're talking about greed. What about the unions? They condescendingly pat the workers on the back during the day and dine on steak at dinner with the company representatives in the evening. They are greedy too, or just corrupt?

[@32toddv]

Realize with your comment the workers only got that package because the automakers have been raping Americans on vehicle prices since COVID why because they can and because there were plenty of people that were stupid enough to pay the asking price of markups of the new vehicles for whatever BS shortage reason excuse the automakers gave.😢​@@dyates6380

[@lynnbrandywgdrive7676]

You have no idea what ur talking about or how bad the company has become under this new fraudster ceo look up about him embezzling money!! No other time has there been A strike ​@dyates6380

[@marcguevara162]

Jeep forgot its roots… Cheap, simple, reliable vehicle.

[@calivalley9056]

Gladiator should be $35k tops, not $70k.

[@m9b7v5]

40% price increase in the last few years? Good! We bought a nicely equipped Ram 2500 with a Cummins in 2020 for 55,650 OTD.

[@Fabulousprofound168]

My local Jeep dealer has so much unsold inventory that won’t sell they’ve had to lease an empty lot nearby because of the overcapacity 😕

[@jasonlovell3934]

We don’t want hybrids or electric vehicles. Don’t destroy the vehicles we actually want to drive!

[@edog7059]

I suggest Mahindra buy them out and show the world how a simpler, more affordable American-made Jeep could rule the world.

[@ironcity6pack]

UAW members at Ford, General Motors, and Stellantis ratified new contracts that included record gains. In 2023 UAW workers received at least 25% raises, and some temporary workers received as much as 168% raises. They planned on passing that down to the consumer. BIG MISTAKE. Also, EV was a mistake... Now you're out of a job.

[@kcprofable]

No one wants to pay these insane prices on these cars (to pay for over paid CEO and over paid UAW).

[@AkiraSamurai-tx3pt]

The way to resolve it is to provide products that customers can buy and product that customers want. Right now it is like they are offering peanut flavoured ice cream for ten bucks per scoop! It is insane!! So if nothing changes, I don’t see a happy ending with or without strike!

[@Ironstarfish]

How hard is it to get away from hybrids and just make an affordable car without fancy infotainment centers, push start and other fancy add ons. Whichever manufacturer does this will dominate sales.

[@michaeln4018]

90% of your base pay plus unemployment. Sounds good to me.

[@drz400sm5]

We the people are paying again. Bet the UAW is still getting paid.

[@fredmauck6934]

Listen again! They get unemployment like everyone else. They also qualify for SUB which is a UAW negotiated Sublimental Unemployment Benifit, that covers only so many weeks. The employees have money deducted every week to fund the SU B account. This type of lay-off was nearly annual until the late 70s , dues to summer shut-downs for model changes.

[@1971-w9u]

Put your application in

[@matt45540]

No they are getting 90% of their pay including unemployment and sub pay. Unemployment insurance is paid by both employees and employers, not taxpayers. And sub pay is presumably union dues or provided by stelantis as a part of Union negotiations. I wish we lived in a country minimum standard of living.

[@dlgmdx]

Can't move them now

[@bobbyvee8941]

Why would you believe ANYTHING a UAW President had to say?

[@Karlkn]

UAW had a hand in these prices. Comes back to bite you!!!!

[@cle_roknn3742]

Automakers claim the unions add 500-700/vehicle, when the median sales price of a Wrangler is $53,000 your point falls flat even at the most it's 2% of the cost. Of course they could send the jobs to China or Mexico where the cost of manufacturing is 95% less. But then folks would complain about jobs going overseas. Pick a side because you can't have it both ways ...

[@Downtime-Remy]

In the last 5 years the cost of jeeps has gone up 61%

[@alankooiker4653]

They need a going out of business sale

[@skip686]

This will be a case study in how to ruin a brand.

[@rizzodrat3076]

Give me a 65% discount and I might consider one.

[@lukelowe918]

These Jeeps are too expensive and built too poorly with cheap parts. People aren't buying them. There hasn't been a decent Jeep Wrangler built since 2006. Jeep used to be for the working man that liked to go hunting and fishing. Now they are bought by soccer moms, dentists, Chili's Management, and OF girls because they want to cosplay as a rugged person buy they never fo off road. The people that bought a Gladiator aren't buying new ones every year and it is not a real truck. It's a niche vehicle with a limited market. There are way better trucks in the segment of the market.

[@betweenthepines4000]

Incredibly obvious you have never owned one. They are second to the Toyota 4Runner for reliability and cost of ownership. Thats impressive being its only been in the market four years. Do some research and stop regurgitating garbage from the JK area

[@michelle-lz8tg]

in 2007 i bought my 2008 JK....i haven't even washed since about 2009...seems to be running just fine for me...i gotten nearly 18 years out of it so far...

[@kowalski5599]

My man 😊😊 Since 2006, Jeep died with the 4.0L

[@michelle-lz8tg]

@@kowalski5599 the problem with the 4.0 is that it is a flat tappet style engine..the modern oils and fuels will eventually destroy those that are still in service.

[@cockyhemi]

@@betweenthepines4000I see you’re oblivious to how shitty Jeep quality is and how overpriced they are. The unions can go pound salt.

[@scottposey1793]

Thanks to Shawn Fain, they're all now: Unemployed Auto Workers

[@BrianBeauchamp]

They are shutdown because they can’t sell their stock already at dealerships. No one is ready to pay $60,000 to $100,000 for a Jeep. No one. And everyone there knows it.

[@robk9685]

I've got a top of the line Rubicon, dual top, leather, heated seats, Alpine sound system and more and the STICKER price was $65K (and of course that's not what I paid for it). A few options I didn't even want but had to take them in "packages". I don't know where you people are quoting these prices from. You can get a Wrangler much, much cheaper than mine. Yes, they have $108K Wranglers marked up $40K sitting in showrooms with $4,000 of add-on accessories like the Billy Bob 22" tires, lift kit, roof lights, winch and all kinds of other sh*t nobody will ever use but MUST have to be Billy Bad Azz....and, yes, somebody will buy it too.

[@timalan7406]

The median American salary is $59,384, the average is $63,795. That's about what the average Jeep product costs.

[@DS-wo8wr]

And smart people only spend half their annual income at most on a car, meaning if you make $65,000 buy no more than a $32500 car.

[@matthewraco3691]

No one is buying them..... Shut down production, build a gap, then start up. Artificially increase demand to only go through this BS again. Drop prices $20K and watch them move like they used to.

[@PunkN_JTM]

No one wants a Gladiator Hybrid .. everyone wants a bit more selection of v8 gas engines that is affordable... Never met a jeeper that wanted a battery/hybrid... Common sense

[@drbichat5229]

The reason those cars are not selling is because the country ran out of people willing to pay 100K for a Jeep

[@1234crevis]

60,000 to 100,000 per jeep is nuts!

[@craigpatterson8551]

Pure BS. People refuse to spend 70,000 on a jeep.

[@tetchuma]

Looks like giving the CEO $39Mil was a bad idea. Considering ALL of their vehicles are overpriced and rittled with faults

[@TheSinkingGarage]

I did some bs math. About 650,000 jeeps, all sold in 2023, would have been 60 dollars cheaper if that 39 mil wasn't "given away"

[@handsomerob9715]

THEY ARE WAAAY TOO EXPENSIVE! How hard is it for them to figure that out?

[@Charles-d4e3b]

2018 Jeep 42 2024 Same Jeep 62 I bought a loaded Mazda for 32 Can they fix my 2018 Death Wobble yet?

[@Cucumberflavoredmustard]

It's the stock rubber bushings on the rear lower control arms. They corrode quickly and turn unto jell-o. Replace them with poly.

[@jimafton5659]

@@Cucumberflavoredmustard Go to a private repairman , with a good reparation

[@kurtiswa-k-8346]

Im a life long CJ jeep owner close to 60 old, Toyota is Far superior, half the price, And Holds it's price! I have always said, If they came out with a stripped down base jeep lo 20's they'd make up the loss in volume....

[@Master-Blaster-4x4]

THEY are waiting to see who next president will be in november

[@williamheinsinger7390]

Boom 💥

[@kurtiswa-k-8346]

$pot-0n !!

[@steven4315]

Trump gets elected you're gonna run out and get an $80,000 Jeep?

[@kurtiswa-k-8346]

@@steven4315 it pertains to if they have to keep the Gang green deal alive

[@Master-Blaster-4x4]

@@steven4315 not us THEM hence the capitol letters, has to do with the manufacturing bc under biden there is a mandate to produce EV's but under trump he would remove all of that and support combustion vehicles

[@offgridliving4128]

Walked a lot while they were changing the oil in my Renegade. They had zero 2 door or entry level Wranglers in stock or any entry level Gladiators. Lot was packed with 65+k rigs.

[@lot2196]

I hope Shawn Fain doesn't eat all the rich like the t-shirt he likes to wear says. Only rich people can afford those prices.

[@ShooterMcNut]

He himself was paid over $200k last year, although that's almost 200 times less than the CEO of stellantis

[@David-xy5sd]

90k for a Chrysler is insane

[@DarthNero]

Theres a reason Stellantis products in NA were down 48% in sales per the recent sales report. high inventory due to above market pricing with subpar built quality being the reason. Some Dealers are turning back allocations due to oversupply so they have to resort to some plant closures. Thats why this is happening.

[@muthergoose4084]

Toyota and Honda will be more American made than American automakers.

[@TheLostSquadron]

It's only going to get worse, next year you can't get Pentastar V6 with an automatic. They're trying to push the crummy turbo 4 so they've crippled the V6 option.

[@charlesrogers8420]

Complete BS.

[@michaelbabella9012]

hundred thousand dollar jeep, and u wonder why they arent selling

[@steveknight9254]

The brand has been disproportionately jacking their prices higher than other brands in this case it’s been over 50% in 5 years. I’m not surprised. There has also been a turnover of CEO’s. in some cases of Jeep/dodge/ram where dealer lot inventory exceeds 130 days. I’m not surprised they have stopped production. Stellantis’s market strategy has not been working with them trying to go upscale.

[@kentpass]

They’re priced way too high and the market has dropped out. Good luck

[@bennyboogenheimer4553]

Here in eastern Pa. my local dealership isn't dealing. It's you pay $86,000, or get out! That may have worked in 2020, but when you've got 60+ units just getting covered in cobwebs, you better rethink your business model. Right down the street is FORD, and I got a Maverick AWD Hybrid for $34,000, and change.

[@TopSecretVid]

😂😂😂😂😂😂…You all wanted your raises…so you buy the cars n trucks you are building

[@thumperjdm]

When these Jeeps are getting price-tags upwards of $80K, this shutdown comes as no shock.

[@LeSillyGoose]

Jeep has to drop to prices by 20k and people will buy them ! But CEOS and stock holders want their $39 millions

[@jfedermesser]

They should get rid of unions, build better vehicles and cut BS costs, maybe copy something that actually works

[@melvinjohnson2074]

Howz that new UAW contract working out?

[@chrislynch8914]

Stellantis should go out of business for putting out TRASH!

[@Howrider65]

THE PRICES ARE WAY TO HIGH IS THE PROBLEM. Salespeople are even leaving they can't even afford a car washer at these places anymore.

[@user-ew6jy9mo4r]

Did anyone commenting actually listen to what was said? Goodness! The Wrangler line is prepping for “realignment of the model mix on dealer lots”, AKA, they’re prepping to build a bunch of low spec models…just like y’all are complaining about not seeing. The Gladiator is getting the updates the Wrangler got last year and there isn’t a rush because no one is buying them. 😅

[@rileydj8764]

Major Part of the problem is the cost imposed by the unions.

[@michaelmcfeely6588]

No bailouts.

[@michelremillard3098]

Would be nice if they offered a basic Jeep without all the luxury garbage. I used to have a new 2007 JK which was bare-bones ($25k CDN) and I loved driving it. Can't see myself dishing out $70K plus for a new Jeep, ain't gonna happen for me.

[@timwaddell9450]

Maybe lower the costs by about 50 percent amd they will start selling agaon.

[@gman8591]

Prices are way too high nobody's buying them and that's the real issue.

[@clroger4]

FJB

[@masoncarmody936]

i wonder if they're gunna fix the corrosion issues

[@dannypowers4995]

Overpriced , cut prices in half Jeeps will sell. That means cut worker pay in half. 😢

[@tyb3938]

Price, we own 1 wrangler and two gladiators, all rubicons. 2019 great deal, 2022 ridiculous price, 2023 20% off msrp dealer had tons of inventory, 2024 Jeep jacks price of Rubicons, what were they thinking?

[@mattmarkowicz]

Why does the UNION rep, say "WE" when talking about the CAR COMPANY?

[@Idgaf-e6l]

How can you sell markup POS!!

[@chriscordray8572]

No body is paying those super high prices and we don't want EVs

[@Ellis1127]

A hybrid Jeep Gladiator? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@LYNDONGOLDEN]

Likely the 4xe "plug-in hybrid" powertrain as found in the Wrangler.

[@thomabb]

There are Wranglers and Gladiators on dealer lots around here that have been sitting for almost a year. Industry average is around 60 days. They are way over-stocked.

[@chuckrogers5567]

I don’t believe a word this guy has to say. Long term the workers will be out of a job.

[@stevengraham3138]

Look inventory is huge, also the industry is a cycle and as rates go up sales go down we all seem this cycle for years if anyone is older

[@JamesDavis-jo9tk]

Many many unsold units are just parked all around. Many locals have seen and reported this.

[@GROGU123]

They would be sold out if they can drop the prices of vehicles below $30k.

[@frenchonion4595]

The gladiator is way too expensive for what it is. Its a 6 cylinder midsize truck wanting full size prices

[@larrymiller5253]

The iron rule of oligarchy....unions...no different than the owners.

[@johnvito2559]

Gladiator 4xe in October?