WW2 - What if Soviets join Axis in 1940

Second World War: what Soviet Union joins the Axis in 1940 and declares war on British Empire? Who would have won?
In November 1940 during WW2 there was a negotiation between Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov, von Ribbentrop and Hitler concerning Soviet Union’s entry into Axis.
On 25 November 1940, Soviets presented a proposal: they would accept the Axis pact but they asked for a world sphere of influence centered on Iraq and Iran and Influence over Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and Finland.
Germany did not respond, leaving the negotiations unresolved and after some months Barbarossa Operation started.
But what if Hitler would have accepted?
Thanks to Francesco Metta for the help.
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[@rudaleru]

Stalin: *teleports behind Mao* Stalin: nothing personal kid

[@rudaleru]

Online Complainer you have become the very thing you swore to destroy

[@gutmoin3686]

Its just a good business

[@jordangoat3391]

*zhukov

[@WadcaWymiaru]

More like Hirohito: *teleports behind Stalin * Hirohito: OMEA WA MOU SHINDEIRU! Stalin: nani da *Suka Blyat!!!* DEAD

[@szasaalmencion5721]

Mao *gulp and gasp* Stalin *proceeds to fire Mao with laser*

[@Kablowshky]

USSR: Hey Hitler, Can i have Iran, Iraq, Bulgaria, Finland and Yugoslavia? Hitler: *Active 1 hour ago*

[@vascogiesteira1566]

We are everywhere!!! Your profile pic is kinda creepy tho

[@tomau3946]

Add Turkey and the "Straits" to that list.

[@thefatjapanesepufferfish1906]

What

[@YUSKHAN]

Finland no chance 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@adrianvhs6051]

Hitler: ask italy cuz he rules the medditeranian and the middle east

[@ushankaboi6409]

When you disable the "Historical AI" in Heart Of Iron 4

[@maximumcringelevel8617]

Lol

[@ushankaboi6409]

@Miss Princess yeah

[@uncfcosmonavy8822]

and swilzerland is still not at war what the

[@ushankaboi6409]

@@uncfcosmonavy8822 Switzerland was created by the devil himself

[@paintedburger3512]

True

[@lioubastoupakova3770]

Imagine a photo of hitler shaking hands with Stalin, it’s not too hard to imagine, but to imagine the consequences of that handshake will be unpredictable

[@avcngxrsavcngxrs1212]

That would be crazy

[@blauwbeer556]

Yeah cuz stalin actually went outside and talked to someone, he had to be really desperate for it to happen...wait no , I am not calling him a neck beard, I was referencing his paranoia

[@ImInsideYourHome]

Fax

[@peace-now]

It would have been quite possible prior to the actual invasion of the USSR. In an alliance between the Soviet and Germany, the two leaders would have many conferences.

[@geoeconomics5629]

Big war in Europe I and II 1914 and 1939 are wars created to prevent that

[@williampurvis2887]

"Axis have the strongest land army ever known" that gives me the shivers every time

[@phungbach1902]

just count the numbers troop + vehices Axis used in Barbarossa operation , u'll see how it is

[@dad_bot_3924]

@@phungbach1902 look at how any soldiers the Soviet union had

[@phungbach1902]

At start WW2 Germany that time are most advanced country in both enoccomy and military , due to Hitler favor ground army over the sea and air , their ground army are at level of MICV already . In early Barbarossa operation : most of Soviet union military vehices are destroyed by the bomber air strike or easy overcome by the panzer in battle of mere infantry vs tank , we can easy see the result . Sovet ground force cant over come the Axis until T-34 make it debut ( the best tank of that time with bigger gun . thicker armor ...compare to panzer III. IV . ) and they still lost around 40k+ T-34 in ww2 . with that you can see how strong the Axis ground force is . 25 -27m lives lost from Soviet union to stop Axis conquer East

[@joshual4513]

Well, they did conquer most of Europe in just two years, left Britain isolated in its own island, and it took three superpowers just to bring them down. I'd consider that a good fighting force.

[@gortqurt4234]

Lol 3 super powers I wonder could American beat germany in a 1v1 in 1936 because 9f it naval force

[@petartoshkov2076]

Infinity war was the most ambitious crossover in history Me: Zhukov and Rommel fight side by side

[@flufferusgoobus]

oh my god

[@iiiiiiiiii5019]

@Adam Mathews and Guderian

[@whatever7645]

Oh god no

[@sueboy3701]

Patton : ight imma head out

[@heyokasamurai453]

Cheesy movie idea like two different style cops working together into taking down the British RAJ

[@coco_killua3057]

Fun fact: the soviets actually requested to join the axis several times indirectly but it was denied by germany.

[@justsomeguyonyoutube3258]

Hitler would not accept. Communists and Nazis are political enemies.

[@bosertheropode5443]

@@justsomeguyonyoutube3258 There were quite a lot of Simularites. But they still hated each other, just like the bolsheviks and the mensheviks did.

[@pakhanmisha3296]

cap

[@j4wo055]

@@pakhanmisha3296 no

[@cyrosubod2317]

It was ignored by hitler

[@giulio_0062]

6:55 Soviets supply Japan with oil so they do not make the error to attack Pearl Harbour 7:01 tErRoRiSt AtTaCk aT tHe eMpIrE sTaTe bUlDiNg

[@tito0567]

Genious damn

[@bokixtreme1107]

You know, Americans find reason for anything

[@giulio_0062]

@@mlud6003 Yes

[@giulio_0062]

@@tito0567 Yes

[@giulio_0062]

@@bokixtreme1107 Yes

[@adityowahyunugroho1958]

soo..soviet is the key for both alllies and axis

[@nactural8752]

There were 3 super power: Germany, Soviet and Usa (Britain was in big trouble) 2 can beat 1 so yes.

[@Goertzman]

am i RIGHT? strong as germany??? lol if it was 1 on 1 germany wouldve easily beaten the soviets

[@Goertzman]

am i RIGHT? quality over quantity.... germans will still beat soviets. have you seen how many deaths the soviets lost?? and germans were fighting 2 fronts lmao but yeah germans will not enjoy that cold winter lol

[@fegeleinmasterofantics1362]

Soviet has one of the best infantries,good tanks and a large amount of artilleries including the katyusha so yes.

[@adityowahyunugroho1958]

+Vladimir Lenin i hear 1 tiger can take out 5 kv1 and 3 t34...... and 88gun can take out the whole battalion of IS2

[@bintangprawirantara695]

would be cool when Nazi soldier salute and say Tenno Heika Banzaii with the accompaniment of the "USSR Anthem" then eating a pizza

[@daniloperisic6119]

LMAO

[@ragestuffin]

the crossover we needed

[@HenriqueFPplay]

Lol

[@rudaleru]

Fun Fact: Benito Mussolini hated pasta and even made it illegal

[@Kablowshky]

Hey guys I'm half Chinese and half Korean and I'm a soldier fighting for Japan in Mongol while speaking french

[@bakbakbakduck]

Correction: There was no Israel as it was called British mandate of Palestine.

[@Medway1900]

respect

[@mentat76]

Exactly, I thought the same thing while watching

[@pemudaantikeadilanpakdipan5577]

yes, and Hitler hated the Jews, so it should be the Arab nationalists who benefited from the war

[@SSky06]

Don't make me slap the Sykes-Picot right out of your goddamn mouth.

[@sujaykrishnanath82]

Actually prince faisal the leader of the arab league was sympathetic to the Zionist cause and promised a state of isreal ,but his otherwise less compromising friend said otherwise. (PS if peace was attained there then would have been a Palestinian and isreal of same size.)

[@seu8541]

You forgot to say that with the USSR in the Axis, Germany would be able to mechanize their army

[@gauloiseguy]

Hitler supplying the Soviets with tanks. Tough thing to imagine, even hypothetically.

[@everythingpizzaandknuckles6268]

That's like saying "here's a baseball bat because you are going to mug me now"

[@rudolfkraffzick642]

There was a real chance that Germany and Sovjet Union became allies in summer 1940. Because Britain and France had planned to attack the oilfields of Baku from Syria. The unexpected collapse of France within 6 weeks prevented the realization of that plan.

[@ninofromkitchennightmares1497]

They already did

[@naturbursche5540]

​@@rudolfkraffzick642 What a sick irony of fate. Defeat France and miss chance to side with Soviets. But I guess Hitler planned to attack Russia all along. He can't have had the best for Germany in mind.

[@alves5466]

Portugal - "I hope both teams have fun"

[@summer20105707]

Yeah and if the axis wins in a few years fascist Spain and Italy will have fun with you Portugal.

[@alves5466]

@@summer20105707 probably yes

[@Titano_Tarocco]

Switzerland- "yeah this match is amazing"

[@theonlybigsmoke]

@@Titano_Tarocco Italy: shit we losing war let's change sides as we always do!

[@IdillaMZ]

@@summer20105707 Spain was not fascist.

[@isaiahsilva2368]

The Empire State Building attack has me dying

[@johanreillo8403]

I think a b25 did crash in the building

[@InspireMe819]

What's so funny? A bunch of Arabs crashed two boeing planes into the WTO. I can probably happen to the Empire State Building.

[@drnoodle8034]

Isaiah Silva 0:55 that’s me when I sall this comment

[@thrillwill7536]

Isaiah Silva I mean it’s not completely unrealistic. With the unstoppable rise of fascism, extremist groups in the U.S would undoubtedly become more aggressive

[@drnoodle8034]

ThrillWill 75 true

[@_o_69]

France when see soviet union, axis germany, japan, india, italy and half of Africa and asia: Switzerland can you teach me the magic of peace?

[@lazy5885]

this is the best interpretation of the Soviet-Axis alliance scenario i've ever seen. Makes for a very interesting cold war

[@MTC008]

Soviets can technically join the axis powers and it was possible and the result is that axis alliance will be more powerful and bigger, there was once an instance when joseph stalin tried to ally nazi germany since both of their ideology are strict and originated in the same writing path creation but the nazis will never going to ally the soviets themselves at that time when germany was under nazi goverment because nazi ideology fascism is focused on expanding their ethnic group population, culture, settlements and language in promoting the german identity that they are above all of people in europe and the entire world, germans have a term for this called ostsiedlung meaning east settling, german term for eastern europe colonization and expansion, fascism ideology of nazi government considers slavs and russians are one of slav ethnic groups in europe as lesser and inferior beings along with jews and black people, because of this nazis will never form an alliance with them or reject them if soviets tried to join in their alliance so this scenario of soviets joining the axis powers is technically impossible to happen

[@thatbritishgamer1123]

At 4:14 theres a mistake "31 June" that does not exist Just needed to put that

[@holdenwilliams1055]

Corey the British Gamer nothing wrong with that!👍🏼☺️

[@dreadpiraterobertsii4420]

Indians: Out with British Indians: finally FREEDOM Axis: let’s introduce ourselves

[@npc_combine_s]

And don't forget r/woooosh@Ameen Shindoli

[@KingEnder10]

@@npc_combine_s And dont forget r/woosh is a dead meme.Normie

[@npc_combine_s]

And don't forget to say something that is something to forget!@@KingEnder10

[@asnekboi7232]

Axis:yes but actually no

[@asnekboi7232]

Deutsches Vaterland. He killed six million people

[@devvytm]

I tried this in hoi4 and let me tell you, the world went mad! The minute Germany signed the treaty with the USSR, the USA declared war on Germany (even before joining the Allies) but it did bring up some interesting things. Alternately to this, both were against Japan simply because Japan didn't wish to cooperate and instead chose to form its own sphere so it got conquered instead as both sent 100s of divisions to Asia. Once Japan was dealt with, they then turned their attention to Africa and pushed as far south as South Africa before finally focusing on the UK. THe US tried on many occasions to fight during this time but was largely ineffective at crossing the Atlantic because German+Soviet industrial might was able to pump out more submarines than the US could produce ships and simply had a wall of subs blockading the entirety of the eastern hemisphere from Greenland in the north all the way to Antartica in the south. This forced them to focus on going through the Pacific but by then China had been conquered by Mao and joined the alliance thus securing the eastern front and allowing us to conquer the UK by invading it from the North via Norway, the East via Belgium and the south via France. Throughout the entire thing the Channel was rammed with submarines and had 1000s of planes dedicated to simply sinkingany ships they came across that weren't german or soviet. Landings were successful for the most part, especially once Italy invaded from the West by circling Ireland and with them out of the war the last remaining power was the US which fell rather quickly a few years later thanks to the early deployment of nukes on American cities alongside a full-scale invasion from both the Atlantic and the Pacific. Fun experiment.

[@paulminh3525]

Best world scenarios ever! Heaven on Earth 😊😊👊

[@Rushovt]

Hoi4 it's a hell of fun

[@ItsNoylim]

The Berlin-Moscow Axis

[@starmnsixty1209]

Don't confuse games with reality kid. Russia would only be a real threat of allied for real with someone like Germany, or the allies. Otherwise they get decimated.

[@jancarlocozo317]

Hitler's biggest mistakes: - declaring war on Soviet Union - declaring war on United States - invading Russia during winter

[@fatalexception1269]

USA was the only country Hitler declared war on. Soviet invasion occurred during summer. Battle of Moscow was during winter

[@jancarlocozo317]

Oh right I forgot. He attacked Russia without declaring war. He should've just allied with Russia and attack them later on after the Axis defeats Britain and USA

[@jancarlocozo317]

Japan's mistake was not invading Hawaii. They should've occupied it after they bombed Pearl Harbor.

[@y_aeroxlad8547]

He didn't attack the ussr during the winter he attacked thinking he could take moscow before winter

[@bluntman9024]

The Russian winter bad the Russia MUD stopped them dead... look it up

[@garfield921]

11:02 BEST PHOTOSHOP EVER

[@tinak.7028]

Hirohito's head just doesn't look real in the photo, I mean well Hitler's and Mussolini's Heads look fine..

[@garfield921]

Freezyboy 25 idk bro

[@Trollgaming1987]

@@tinak.7028 so does stalins the Japanese guy would probably get shot by hitler because japan attacked pearl harbor oh wait the paw patrol attacked pearl harbor

[@itzbenz941]

Lol stalin and hitler

[@popantermopan4099]

True

[@dragonpleb7993]

this is as far as allies can realisticly expand. HOI4 players: f ur opinion

[@ndetavy2341]

Dragonpleb i only get ussr and all europe :(

[@shadowkyun]

シVoiD u suk booty cheeks

[@deinemudda1049]

It's been way more than 5 years, but still not even a single ad. I'm proud of you.

[@ZeroEagle667]

Don't jinx it.

[@tonywagner1626]

Time traveller: moves chair The entire timeline:

[@agungfirna3421]

I think this guy have a time machine an created his own dimension...

[@karlkoller5308]

Yeah this guy may have one

[@entity303-was-not-found2]

I need it for experiment..

[@GiggityCrabbityGiggity]

Lmao, this comment so underrated.

[@skiactive1830]

It's not I think it's he has

[@goat-qx4qy]

So he became president of all country that time?

[@SauceFring]

-Stalin uses Agreement -Hitler does not respond

[@thechannel8850]

No; Stalin used agree... It doesn't affect Hitler...

[@tinamuchahari1514]

'Arming Indians were tricky' lol

[@gordonfreeman8109]

The craziest thing is that while this seems completely outlandish, the Soviets actually did try to join the Axis a couple times, if it hadn't been for Hitler, Himmler, and Goebbels' staunch support for Eastern Lebensraum, this could have actually have been a thing

[@renaldyazhari2709]

just play heart of iron 4

[@dragonburst5341]

lol xD

[@spoderhomi2274]

Renaldy Azhari lol Berlin-Moscow pact

[@aestheticgod8494]

Lol xd

[@nofrizalbondatama116]

Damm 😱😱 you are right

[@makiskanyt9269]

#berlinmoscowaxis

[@ShantanuSuchil]

Well, considering the USSR has "infinite resources" that can support Nazi Germany indefinately, they can assuredly create a navy that's capeable of blockading the British Isles, perhaps even incite an Irish rebellion (they tried that before but the Brits quelled it). Using the blockade of the British isles, be it merely in the channel and with wolfpacks in the atlantic to deny American support to the British (they'd have to travel in large fleets to combat the wolfpacks, and large fleets attract attention), the Germans could very well launch an invasion into England and, using their superiour numbers take controll of it, with the Irish Republic being recognized and supported by Germany they'd have control of the British Isles very quickly. The British would then be left to only their colonies but even they cannot self-govern themselves in the absence of a British Government and will be left on their own. Without a unified British government, colonial governments will act upon their own and chances are that some will continue fighting whereas others would sign treaties with the Germans/Soviets.

[@AnImperialGod]

Lol, german navy was shit, just made by submarines and 2 strong battleships. That's not enough for fight the British and American Navies (strongest navies at that time) even with Soviet Support (they had a shit navy too).

[@plartoota4584]

NearyLawliet264 lol you're kidding the German navy was pretty powerful

[@arberchabot8760]

+NearyLawliet264 And the Japanese navy is far stronger than the Americans. And the German navy is not weak, its unprepared. Uboats alone caused alot of destruction to the allied ships

[@ShantanuSuchil]

NearyLawliet264 Perhaps by the start of the war the German Navy isn't on par with the UK. However, without US support, the UK wouldn't have been able to keep their navy on strenght because it takes a lot longer to build a shape then to lose it. Next to that, I'm going with the scenario given in this video, which, will give the Germans plenty of resources to build effective ships. Their tanks one of the most effective on the battlefield, their planes where pretty awesome (stuka's) and because of that, I hardly see any reason why their ships would be crap.

[@tobiasbengtsson2112]

Viridis With the soviet airforce the Battle of Britain could have been won and Sealion could happen before the Americans join

[@viniciusferreira4364]

The 3 powers (Germany, USA and USSR) was the keys. 1) If USA join Germany, Axis won; 2) If USSR join Germany, Axis won; 3) IF USA join USSR, Allied won.

[@ChloeKruegerSenpai]

Italy: *joins the Allies* Axis and Allies: What?!?

[@aansania9236]

simple and best explanation

[@MikeYm98875]

Britain did the most naval intelligence and campaigns around the world so Britain is power u dumb f

[@Yyy-yy_]

Germany 6 point Sovyet 5 , usa 5 , england 3, france 1, Japon 3 , italy-1 point

[@Bro.7]

​@@Yyy-yy_😂😂😂

[@trololoev]

USA: if Axis start winning, help them, if Soviet, help them. they alliance USA: surprise picachu face

[@_shivesh_12]

This dude is obsessed with Rommel and Montgomery

[@thegaminggeneral7243]

True lol

[@flynnryder2372]

Bruh

[@MarkoFTW]

Those are probably only two generals he knows about. Many of these points are impossible to the absurd. Occupying whole of Afghanistan in few months? It took 10 years for Soviets, and they failed. USA didn't pass better. And I'd severely underestimates power of British troops. Even with Gibraltar down, British navy would still control Medditeran. And there is no way in the world where Luftwaffe could have won Battle of Brittain.

[@Nat11us]

@@MarkoFTW remember there is special forces from Siberia,without Japan as threat but ally,they wont bother asia anymore Afganistan is desert terrain unlike Soviet snowing African Corps will deploy to help Soviet (this is unhistorical but could happened)

[@Nat11us]

@@MarkoFTW yea but i agree with Axis wont win in Medditeran,because British see threat when France invasion so they reinforce as many ships there So they just can hope Turkey join so they have safe route

[@kapgam9913]

So the Soviet Union was the key to Victory.

[@TheValentineEnemy]

Unlikely. If Hitler wouldn't bother with the Soviets then he could win the war. Bloodiest battles were in the USSR where the biggest armies fought against eachother....

[@xXEatYourDogXx]

The Real Entertainment is in the Comment Box Not true!

[@carlosmarquez7584]

Neko_ValentinE_Butterfly not really

[@lobotimized7596]

KapGam. Yes the Germans would need the cannon fodder..that way all of the German forces would be pristine

[@spectrumz43]

The Real Entertainment is in the Comment Box actually not because The Soviet Union risked more lives to defeat the Nazis

[@ecksdee1637]

1:15 that Soviet Parade matching with the music is one of the coolest, most badass things ever

[@dadaddy4296]

soviet?

[@syncradar]

OMG ITS SYNC

[@rooseveltingudam6354]

@@dadaddy4296 The first one is Germans, the second, Soviets

[@Mr33500]

The problem is with the nukes. When the US dropped the nukes on Japan, they basically had complete air superiority, but how could they get air superiority on both Japan and Germany? This is with a luftwaffe with no oil shortages as well (because of the Soviet Union).

[@severeautism7855]

When I choose berlin-moscow axis in hoi4

[@Shay-zg9zi]

*NAZBOL INTENSIFIES *

[@hermanngoring3995]

Severe Autism Smart

[@commissarkordoshky219]

When Russia & Germany rush B together

[@KingEnder10]

@@commissarkordoshky219 Rush Britain that is.

[@zzzzzzzx2866]

@@KingEnder10 Rush (B)ritish lol xD

[@jozefstalin9999]

most powerful alliance ever existed

[@leniloud6334]

jozef stalin NEIN stupid Soviet Union

[@kayharker712]

German invading forces into India and Pakistan would have suffered unexpectedly high casualties from Wehrmacht soldiers slipping on turds. The unhygienic Indian practice of crapping in the streets may well have literally proved a stumbling block. Add to this the amoebic dysentery caused by shit everywhere and India may have become a new Stalingrad for the Axis.

[@hungarianpepe8587]

LMAO dude this is golden

[@juanpablorendon7305]

Leni Loud the russians had little if no infraestructure at the time, they had to fight with little help against all cold-related diseases and overcame them, the japanese had to fight in islands where insects and land itself carried diseases far more deadly than dysenteria, therefore i dont think what you are saying would ultimately affect the axis advance

[@amagicegg7092]

Faker, Any soviet knows its Joseph Stalin not whatever you put

[@decius6939]

"Hitler looking at the Soviet Union" Soviet Jews: Can't touch us Bolsheviks: Nope

[@condedooku9750]

Bolsheviks: We will. Jews: Oh.

[@militaristicsoldier856]

It’s funny because Stalin got rid of them IRL, Man just would say “oh you want those people? Here you go”

[@dengist8172]

I honestly did not expect this to be so well made. Nice job

[@samrparker1224]

Dude is the USSR joined with the Axis the Allies would've been DONE. RIP

[@robertboss9281]

They could have throved 40 million men at them and suffer nothing

[@HaydenLau.]

@@ZamTheRock-zr6db Unlikely. The British don't have industrial capability to match Germany, and the USA is too far away. The USSR produced more tanks than Germany and the USA combined.

[@michaelhart7109]

They were allies but hitler turned on Stalin, everyone has seemed to forgotten that

[@indahf.freztiyana824]

Not really, the end of this alternate simulation is quite perfect, a stalemate between Allies and Axis... Allies wouldn't be able to defeat USSR-Nazi Germany combine land warfare, and the Axis will suffer massive casualties if they tried to challenge Allies naval superiority as Japan is Axis' only recognized naval power...

[@barrierodliffe4155]

@@HaydenLau. German production in 1940 was far less than British production, that is in warships and merchant ships, aircraft, tanks and heavy guns, the same in 1941 and 1942, in fact the highest german production was in 1944 when it was too late. USA produced less of all of these than Britain util 1942.

[@onkelwonkel229]

Germany: now we will conquer europe USSR: now middle east is mine Japan: Cjina is waiting for me USA: shit how we sould get oil now Switzerland: HHAHAHA

[@cgkik]

texas

[@maxtuner5762]

The middle east:I'm doomed aren't i?

[@lestermount3287]

the U.S. has the most oil in the world they don't need to import it like most of Europe and Japan.

[@maxtuner5762]

@@lestermount3287 &what're they doing in the middle east then?

[@cgkik]

max tuner do you actually think we just invade the Middle East because of oil?

[@maclanekeller8308]

In my opinion, once the axis win, the Japanese, the Soviets, and the Nazis who all Hayes each other would have turned on each other and tore their countries apart fighting WWIII. The British, the Americans, and the other allied powers would just stay the hell out of it and just watch.

[@maclanekeller8308]

Hate* eachother.

[@user-tj8pt6fj4q]

This aren’t that bad. At least we can speak German , Russian and Japanese.

[@user-xe3ng6sj9o]

Italy: am i joke to you?

[@LalaLa-ze7kv]

@@user-xe3ng6sj9o , yes you are :D

[@user-xe3ng6sj9o]

@@LalaLa-ze7kv kono Benito Mussolini ni wa ume ga aru

[@zachyboy4239]

i think this guy traveled through different timelines and made this original content

[@a.t.l.r.8969]

stop revealing his formula bruh

[@souryabanerjee1306]

it's so true

[@sjkrofl1947]

Wow amazing Video

[@gabrielwibowo]

+Vladimir Paschalis hahaha right

[@lemons5777]

axis: Fighting soviet: Hard defeat Without soviet: Balanced With soviet: OP

[@TheBrianp1]

For those who think the lack of land lease would be a problem for the Russians. They could have sent all those dead and captures troops in 1941 in our time line to the factories, mine, farms and forests to make up for it. The US had about half of global GDP but the USSR and Germany had more population alone than the US and the UK and were able to supply pretty much full mobilization to a pretty good degree. Never mind the weaker economic powers like Japan and Italy who could help a bit had provide more manpower mass at the very least.

[@markoperger3252]

Us did not have even 1/5 of world gdp. Get the facts right.

[@noobiamyes4853]

@@markoperger3252 the us' gdp was bigger then all the major axis and allied powers combined

[@brendanzhang7488]

@@markoperger3252 production rate of metal and other vital war material was the highest in the world. America before joining the war never turn those resources to make a competent army

[@darkknight6432]

And more than 50% of the oil at that time came from Texas and Venezuela.

[@rickoshay5525]

Umm, how can the dead work the factories or mines or farms?

[@howrydanksman8058]

Soviets joined Axis...Adolf Hitler stills alive after 1945? Right?

[@marska7608]

Rath 2467 yep he was alive until his real death being old

[@adityowahyunugroho1958]

naah he died anyway... fegelain put an ammo betwen his eyes

[@marska7608]

Adityo Wahyu Nugroho lol

[@templars7680]

dat annoying Fegel ! xD

[@marska7608]

Adityo Wahyu Nugroho wait nein fegelein murdered by jack hitler xd

[@medotedo8410]

12:53 How many people dreamed about this ?

[@alanshearer4974]

Medo Tedo the millions of nazis and German troops in ww2. Apart from them, not too many

[@aldrinferrer1813]

@@alanshearer4974 actually a lot of people dreamed of it, uk and france is the real evil in ww2, you can't find many proof nowadays because of coverups.

[@alanshearer4974]

Aldrin Ferrer “uk and france is the real evil in ww2” I’m aware that both the British empire and French empire committed atrocities, but not to the scale of the holocaust and what the Japanese did to the Chinese. Germany and Japan were the real evil ones in ww2, no doubt about it.

[@codseal8263]

@@alanshearer4974 France and uk shouldve mind their own business let me remind you they declared war on Germany

[@EdgyMemer_]

@@alanshearer4974 You forgot the Bengal Famine

[@volta1337]

This war would be terrifying

[@m4raw121]

1:14 STONGEST Meme man loves the axis now

[@blitzkriegc1112]

@Alexander Primo meme man : wold wor 2

[@JustmeRenzo]

@@blitzkriegc1112 wold waer tow

[@dipendranath1659]

hmm but japan could built a bigger navy with help from germany and ussr

[@jonas9592]

Yes but the axis couldn't have a bigger navy than the allies until years.

[@steinistbaum2236]

@@jonas9592 You do know that a german soviet alliance would have an industry 5 times as large as the allies, right? Add in Japan and China (China only cause of manpower, they didnt have any economic power back then) and the navy would be equal to the allies navy in 1,5 Years and doubled after 3...

[@reapersansa.k.a.godofdeath9961]

And they probably made video "What if USSR haven't sighed with Axis?"

[@kjdunne8683]

Japan would have a schism with the Axis over its long-time enemy the USSR joining. Probably no major conflict, but constant Manchurian guerrilla warfare and border skirmishes, and it would definitely go it's own way to keep on conquering.

[@sashab7399]

@@steinistbaum2236 You do know that all of those powers, except japan, barely focused on navies? Literally Hitler, the man who thought it was a good idea to invade the russians while fighting the allies thought that Operation Sealion was a bad idea. Germany primarily focused on the luftwaffe and tanks with infantry, the soviets focused on sending as many men as possible to the fronts, and the Italians just had a shit navy which wouldn't have even been able to reach Japan without being sunk by superior British/French/American ships. And the Japanese navy was good, yes, but they also had a shortage of oil and the US had more oil and a bigger navy. The soviets only needed a navy for leningrad to defend from allies and- oh wait the nazis already had a choke point from Denmark to Norway so it turns out they really wouldn't have needed, especially with turkey covering the Black Sea. Also the entire axis army would probably be starving to death.

[@kaiserwilhelmii8182]

We would have made good allies.

[@DufferLicious]

ur a fake but that would be true

[@jeterpakab5133]

@@DufferLicious bruh he is not fake... he is the real comrade Stalin

[@degamegang8262]

@@jeterpakab5133 sure 😑

[@joelliecampos9691]

Like u did with America then started a cold war after the war

[@naurisvarpins]

@@sordello51 but it happened

[@vascomanteigas9433]

Also in this scenario, the Rommel Asien Korps would invade and conquest Tibet once secured Pakistan and parts of India. The most exoteric faction of SS wanted Tibet to be part of German Reich, since it was claimed as the birthplace of Arian People.

[@bobolaapi7034]

imagine the allied forces saw guderian, manstein, zhukov and rommel marching towards them

[@xotic9080]

💀if i was in the the place of allied force ,I'll be like : so this is how death looks like

[@KoteDarasuum]

WOW WOW WOW! In this situation Germany would had A-bomb first!!!!!

[@phuyem]

it seems only you and me noticed that LOL

[@KoteDarasuum]

Pham H. Anh yeah

[@danhthanhnguyen8588]

and missiles to bomb the shit out of America

[@davidzof]

Nah, the V2 project cost double the Manhattan project. Germany didn't have the industrial capacity to do A Bombs and the V1/V2.

[@phuyem]

davidzof you forgot that Germany is supposed to have SU support in this alternate history?? A bombs is very much possible, but inter continental ballistic missile may take alot of time as it did in our history

[@UnitedStatesOfAmerica1776]

This could be a nightmare for me

[@Tikii_9]

Not really

[@BYRDE1917]

Dafuq is wrong with people of youtube naming themselves ( countries , names , cars , etc ) and acting they are actually them...

[@Tikii_9]

@@BYRDE1917 I think its cute.🤗

[@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC]

The moment when you realize you are against fanatical militarists,fascists, nazis and commies at the same time... I would also like the Axis pact renamed into an Eurasian Pact and world peace be named after the war, Pax Eurasica.

[@gvrifiedsci7315]

For "us"

[@petercalabro2579]

Zvallid needs a Netflix series and a bunch of books for his content. Such amazing videos.

[@BaneOfCnidarians]

Switzerland be like: "Whoops, forgot to put butter on my popcorn"🍿 🍿

[@John-cg8to]

New Scenario:"What if the Great Area 51 Raid happened?"

[@syv5013]

In 2050, history class in every *fokking* world will explain & tell about "The Massacre of Area 51" or "Tiananmen of USA". LoL.

[@Shadow-si9im]

@@syv5013 im from septermber 22 2 days after the fight the gamers CAN NOT BE DEPLOYED REPREAT GAMERS CAN NOT BE DEPLOYED they will switch sides for i9 processors

[@alexbox8967]

2 milions deaths

[@Dersephh]

@@alexbox8967 *The world war 3 started that day*

[@randomriku6774]

2million Troops encircle Area 51. Americans are totally surprised.Area 51 is given an ultimaatum to surrender but they deny thinking the raiders are bluffing.Gamers start Naruto running towards Area 51 few snipers at the border flee to the base.Guards are mostly unorganized after their managers/officers are dealing with karens. Gamers will suffer heavy casualties but will eventually breach the gates.Rest of the guards will flee underground and hold strategic positions but they will eventually be over run. Casualties will be on the Military around 300-2000 and on Raiders 1000-100 000.Raid could causr more riots around america and destabilize it for years

[@ThomasTHEONEANDONLY]

This video should have been called ‘What if the Soviets joined the Axis and never got betrayed?’

[@YujiroHanmaaaa]

As if the Soviets would never betray Germany lmao

[@lessthanpinochet]

They had a non-aggression pact. It's not the same as joining the Axis, they just agreed to not attack each other. The Soviets had the same agreement with the Japanese.

[@stung39]

Well They both hated each other still

[@stung39]

when Stalin and Hitler met why didn't hitler order Stalin to death and invade the soviets with no governor

[@stung39]

@Tyger Stalin meet Hitler's foreign offers in Moscow to sign Nazi-Soviet non aggression pact

[@Orneyrocks1609]

Imagine the largest army till date, then imagine an army which eventually became strong enough to stop the largest army, and tgen imagine them teaming up. Just crazy.

[@songsofnk1978]

As an India 🇮🇳 is axis free us we will remain neutral & loyal to Russia (soviat) as we are today 🇮🇳♥️ 🇷🇺

[@slavvodkaman9359]

that will nightmare of ally side if russia join axis

[@k.i.a6433]

aviomaster don't point at us.

[@albvscommesincastello6346]

Murica will have tough times

[@TheStarcoMarco]

K. I. A *Points at US* Well US can't defeat the Axis if Soviets joins the Axis cause the United States still suffer a Great Depression.

[@k.i.a6433]

TheSovietComrade I don't remember why I said that. He deleted his comment.

[@rdelrosso2001]

TheSovietComrade: One way the USA came out of the Great Depression was putting people (including many women) to work in factories building bombers, tanks, Jeeps, 2 1/2 ton Army Trucks, etc with which to wage war. We had a lot of spare labor, Comrade! But without the USSR as an Ally, it would have been really, really hard to defeat the Axis, so "Spasibo" for your nation's help and great Sacrifice of 27 million people!

[@PrehistoricLEGO]

If the Soviets joined the axis, then the term be home by Christmas would’ve been true

[@bradhirsch4845]

I mean, the Soviet Union was allied with Nazi Germany from August 1939 to June 1941. That isnt some hypothetical or alternate history. That happened.

[@gosva5268]

1:13 so baddass soundtrack I want it

[@dcgamerrock7844]

Ok it name future gladiator

[@lighninged4979]

Lol

[@nytrex_yt7417]

Soviets join the axis *wait thats illegal*

[@shinlo9707]

Maybe

[@kkhang8617]

Soviet joined the axis and attacked Finland. However, Hitler betrayed and declared war Soviet.

[@generation2714]

@@kkhang8617 yeah and if hitler didn't send attack on Soviet Union and then there's a chance that. Axis and Soviet Union can win and there other team mates. Edit: Can be

[@ItsReaper]

Can they do that?

[@WadcaWymiaru]

Can happen in game if Allied declare war on them, but usially Allies, Axis and Comiters are all in war, include Coprosperity Sphere with japan. All vs All...

[@coolingheat5644]

Simple! This video would be titled “What if Russia didn’t join the axis?”

[@FranciTheGamer]

Ye

[@vuktodic1356]

Usa also did join axis so nobody gives a fuck

[@almkcr7057]

Very impressive work you done there sir.

[@user-eq7sp4tn6s]

thanks To the Person Who Made The English Subtitle... That helps me alot.

[@Beowulf-eg2li]

7:02 I literally spat out the tea I was drinking when I saw that XD

[@GamesCooky]

It was kinda hilarious x)

[@templars7680]

and the London scene too xD

[@Beowulf-eg2li]

Templars Lol yeah, the animations in this are just so cheesy

[@templars7680]

Agree !

[@simehong2000]

London get nuke...and no more harry porter will be release, and Mr.Bean will not become artist but become rabble

[@muhamadgibrantbintangzainu189]

"Allied troops invade indonesia" Battle of surabaya : Hold my bamboo

[@cf9570]

MERDEKA!!!🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩

[@Kvts711]

Bandung Lautan Api has joined the server

[@Lowlander-ci7is]

Hold my bamboo beer mug 😉

[@febrian0079]

Indonesia lost badly in the Battle of Surabaya, Indonesia lost at least 6.000-16.000 men while the British lost at least 600 men.

[@abdur1300]

Still, Red Army will destroy those local militants along with the bamboos that you are so proud of.. We are talking about Soviet Infantry here,, who managed to take heavy damage during the first two years of total Five Years War against Nazi during WW2.. And lets dont forget that Nazi Army is ferocious and very solid and strong at the time, and Red Army ended up as a winner

[@rdplays5056]

If this happened the Americans would get crushed...the Soviets and germans had some incredible tanks and planes (is-series,jet fighters,supertanks,many many more)if they would have been supplied correctly it would be over,the is-1 would probably be introduced in mid 1942 and the first jet fighter in early 1943 and super tanks in mid 1943(versalite and improved) with the German technology and Soviet resources they would make a huge navy and get Britain then usa and South America will slowly but surely be overwhelmed

[@theultimatecommentator179]

Another suggestion: what if USSR never joined WW2 on either side

[@zvallid]

no barbarossa operation? yes iy would be interesting

[@theultimatecommentator179]

@@zvallid OMG YOU REPLY TO A COMMENT ON A SEVEN YEAR OLD VIDEO

[@flawlessbinary7449]

Stop calling the USSR Russia.

[@flawlessbinary7449]

@Alkhazred1 Yeah, including some big histroy channels around KZbin.

[@flawlessbinary7449]

@Alkhazred1 Indeed, one of the 15 republics.

[@rhysstanley7387]

No u

[@wizar6712]

No

[@naurisvarpins]

No, Russia is successor of USSR only in sports :)

[@aar0n.mp364]

7:33 the dragon would obviously eat the eagle.

[@Yessir822]

AaronIsBushy lol

[@trialectical2008]

HippoSperm101 the sun*

[@benitomussolini3271]

HippoSperm101 this dragon is Vietnam

[@ricksanchez6672]

HippoSperm101

[@ricksanchez6672]

DragonLord как

[@nein_nuhuh]

tbh, Axis and Soviets would be the best combo ever, Axis with the high-quality weapons and supplies, and the Soviets with the quantity of soldiers using them

[@corbinglenn2567]

I can only imagined how many ships would be in the channel after this

[@jamisco4432]

We all just gon ignore that amazing photo shop at 11:00

[@KostyanGlebov]

Axyeна братан.

[@bluesky2368]

im crying

[@davidlee4805]

??

[@SvobodaIliSmert]

hirohito's lookin in the complete void like "have i bought ramen for dinner"

[@itz_pranktv9439]

3:25 When Russia would join Axis, Yugoslavia would join Axis too or even be neutral but never join allies!

[@australiaisntreal186]

itZ_PrankTV at the time, Yugoslavia wasn’t communist so probably would join the allies.

[@marukusius1]

@@australiaisntreal186 At that time Yugoslavia would likely remain neutral, it still had a king but they would have eventually joined the axis, slavic people brotherhood with the russians would have been the reason for the eastern part and pro axis politics for the western part of the country.

[@antegelo8809]

@@australiaisntreal186 nahh not at all you idiot

[@dontsearchdocumentingreali9621]

Nope, Greater Hungary and Greater Croatia would be formed.

[@clutchxs]

USSR*

[@lioubastoupakova3770]

1:10 that gave me goosebumps, as if I’m watching some video made by the resistance fighting the axis

[@manux5856]

this is the most honest video i saw so far. US entered the war in Europe, 1944, when Germany was almost defeated. I am no communist, but the soviets fought everywhere. Against Japan and Germany, with casualties but without whinning or stopping their efforts

[@augustopinochet7587]

Manu X the Soviets only attacked Manchuria in the last months of the war when Japan's defeat was certain

[@manux5856]

+Trump salt mining Inc. i know that. but i understand they fought in multiple sides. and they got into germany first

[@augustopinochet7587]

Manu X yeah I was just saying they came in a bit late

[@vasiliystalin8555]

Trump salt mining Inc. yes they came late but successful fighting Japan

[@Cs-ny5mw]

Vasiliy Stalin be honest with your self the soviets did fuck all in the pacific Theatre just like how America did fuck all in the European theatre

[@fernandocontreras4981]

*Axis would have won*

[@marksesl]

We invented the atomic bomb four years before the Soviets were able to copy us and build one of their own. We would have blown them all away and established democracy in all the axis countries if the Soviets had united with Germany. The Soviet Union was saved by NOT being an enemy of the U.S.

[@kiffu94]

@@marksesl it the german idea of the atom. If germany war machine was still active they would copy the usa.

[@marksesl]

@@kiffu94 It took the Soviet Union 4 years to copy the U.S. Germany wasn't even close to developing an atomic bomb at any time during the war. If they had the upper hand with the massive support of the Soviet Union, they naturally would have stood a better chance, but all the Jewish scientists left Germany. The U.S. gained the wellspring of talent that escaped German oppression. The American Navy would have been far greater then that of the German and Soviet Navies combined. During the time those countries would have been taking over the European and Asian continents, the United States would have been un-attackable and with its massive industrial might would have been able to overcome any threat they may have posed in trying to actually cross either ocean and take over the U.S. We would have nuked them by 1945 anyway.

[@ravishankaruday6884]

@@marksesl Americans made the atomic bomb thanks to German technology.The axis would also have obtained the nuke

[@Bilbo1teaBaggins]

@@marksesl How could Soviets copy US bomb if they never took those bombs apart and didn't even have a spy?

[@multigameswithryan9215]

you have to remember, the Soviets were starving, with dwindling supplies, the US sent extreme amounts of goods, I could recommend a documentary that talks all about how US manufacturing kind of saved the war effort

[@Alex-zq9ru]

Finland would not have joined the axis, especially if the Soviets were in it

[@zvallid]

they would be forced to do that

[@Alex-zq9ru]

zvallid i think they would try to stay neutral. Try. The Soviets wouldnt let them in the axis, they want Finland for themselves, but thats just my opinion

[@Alex-zq9ru]

RexXflash holdup what r u talking about.....? Also if Germany hadn't surrendered, Little Boy probably wouldve been on Berlin

[@unitedgreatlakes7892]

Alex Bolte Unlikely. Why would they already atom bomb an entire city which has also been destroyed from the air? There's no sense to bombing Berlin. The use of the bomb would be tactical and not strategic.

[@UnknownFortune]

This is surprisingly good! I appreciate how you made animations, photoshops, mentioned divisions, and gave maps. Most other alt history videos are very poorly edited and pay little attention to detail, but yours is much better. Just some things I would change - UK would definitely surrender after the nuke - If it took the US months to mobilize how did they win in Asia so easily? - Why didn't the US invade the mainland of Asia? - Why is Israel a country on the map afterwards? The axis hated jews.

[@anonymousstout4759]

-UK won't surrender but allies definitely could launch the same attack to Paris and Berlin the best decision is to maintain status quo since Axis allredy gained enough land - despite US late a month for mobilization, Philippines still US territories and US has more ships tonnage than Axis Navy combined. At the end of 1945 US has 28 Carries, 23 Battleships, 72 Cruisers, and 377 Destoyers, not counting submarines and other Escort Carriers compared to axis with 11 Fleet Carries (all total included the sunken ship) that all belongs to japan ( we don't count Graff Zeppelin since Germany gained control of North sea, Germany has no reason to build carries or invasion fleet) in 1943 Hitler ordered all capital ship construction postponed because uboat is more effective to counter merchant but North sea is not allies water anymore. That's where all start to interesting. let just saying German build all the Graff Zeppelin -class that planned, 4 in total German send them to Pacific through Suez all the voyage are save so far till they reach Malacca where land bomber and Aircraft could intercept the convoy with ease, Graff zeppelin will might be ended up like Prince of Wales and repulse ( still no quarante axis would win against US, Australia and British Pacific fleet) - even though US could land their troops in Manchuria or Mainland China they will got difficult time to advance more despite the help of b-17 and b-29. Remember Japanese allredy in mainland since 1937 the chance the will build heavily fortified defences will be high they know really well war in Pacific against American will be never in Imperial Japan favour At least that what I think might be happened Edit: invasion of British isles as hard as D day In this scenarios since Britain will put all their gun aiming at channel and airfield in Dover will constantly launching aircraft. So that's why launching V2 is the most reasonable choices

[@theultimatecommentator179]

Also why not landing in mainland Asia: Axis land army was way stronger than allied land army

[@musirhythm]

12:54 Me an Indian watching London getting nuked : Eternal peace

[@sachithashetty5198]

Yes

[@Leeeverett-bp2pj]

Fuck India from London

[@Leeeverett-bp2pj]

@MinecraftOP and your population is 1.34 billion and your gdp is barley bigger than the uk haha ur gdp per capita is a joke

[@sachithashetty5198]

@@Leeeverett-bp2pj stole our wealth 45 trillion and praising himself

[@Nihilistic_Soul]

based abdul

[@DalekovDRA]

Focus completed: *Alliance with the USSR*

[@mike.mentzer_enjoyer]

HOI4

[@dismantledhenry5006]

Xdddd

[@nstplc-mk4pm]

HOI4

[@anshumansinha6140]

what if this already happened in parallel universe? 🤔🤔

[@batmen3994]

Anshuman Sinha wowwwwww

[@Nat11us]

American East Asie

[@joedollarbiden9823]

Probably did

[@twnll]

And no avengers?

[@denisstoynev3935]

I would feel good for the people there

[@goncalodias605]

Every country in the world is influenced by something except Tibet and Portugal xD

[@indahf.freztiyana824]

Also Switzerland... xD

[@theforgottenhistorytfh601]

If time machine invented, first thing I do is back to Nazism era and tell Hitler to teamed with USSR and tell if he declares war to USSR it's a wrong ideas and he will defeated by ALLIES power

[@zhongxina7601]

Doesn’t matter hitler will not gonna listen to you his entire career is about destroying the soviet union

[@zhongxina7601]

And also Facism and communism can’t be friends they always fighting each other that’s why its impossible to allied them both

[@yannicjohnson9164]

Problem: there was no Israel in 1941, it was palastine🤔

[@IgorMgtowandVideoGames]

British palestine mandate

[@APersonOnYouTubeX]

So replace Israel with Palestine

[@arman2998]

Yeah like bunch of other countries , Pakistan

[@mirzahamzabaig5667]

@@arman2998 Idea of Pakistan actually was floating around during that time.

[@apvtethic8818]

Axis would have won the war thanks of the Soviet Bias ;))

[@MikhaelAhava]

Wow.

[@YaBoiVinnyBot]

warthunder.exe

[@minerbob4334]

No its just because the Red Army was the strongest army at the time. U my man are a little butthurt American who still think are important.

[@HughMungus11]

OrangePillow we'll we had a MASSIVE air force and we had the nuclear bomb first

[@YaBoiVinnyBot]

OrangePillow Strongest? No, definitely not. Largest though? Yes. Soviet Army was by far the largest army but they were unprepared and had terrible gear. Not to mention, the US gave the USSR tons of lend lease in order to assist them in winning on the Eastern Front. Without the Soviets, the war probably would have been lost. Without the Americans, the war would have been lost, without the Brits, the war would have been lost. Every country played a crucial role in the war.

[@boycotgugle3040]

11:00 Ok, that is one fantastic picture xD xD

[@luismariocarbone2723]

You have done a good job. I would say that with the URRS oil supplies, both Regia Nautica and IJN would have taken a major role in the seas like: an active role of Yamato Battleship, or bigger naval operation against HMS in Mediterranean sea for the italian. Still I like the passion you put in the video

[@gunjansingh05]

You have made this video after learning and reading much history as it can be seen that you know Subash chandra bose had a friendly relation with axis... Appreciate it👍

[@jonathancooper4914]

Alas, Hitler surrounded himself with ‘yes’ people who told him what he wanted to hear. As dictators do.

[@ericjustasinner5695]

All the no men are Six Feet Under

[@henrichvonruben9114]

Not even remotely true

[@intermilan9731]

Ribbentrop didn't want war. He always acted against anything any ''intellectual'' would say.

[@un3xxy343]

Jonathan Cooper or ignorant people like you trying to say smart things which are 100% false.

[@jonathancooper4914]

Un3XXy how so?