X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE (2009) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION

[@toddvergith9485]

Fun fact Ryan Renalds warned the director that the fans were going to hate what they did to the Deadpool character in this film and was he ever right. Thank god he was able to get Fox to greenlight the 1st Deadpool movie.

[@amadeusagripino6862]

Ryan Reynolds lobbyied for years for the Deadpool movie to be made. I remember when Green Lantern movie was in production, the only thing Ryan Reynolds talked about was Deadpool movie.

[@ct6852]

It's the continuity stuff that bothers me. This version of Deadpool worked for this particular movie, I think. All of the humor/snark/meta stuff wouldn't have fit the tone very well.

[@ssss6572]

The dumbest person on the planet could have told you that this version of Deadpool was gonna suck. But apparently, someone at Fox couldn’t figure it out.

[@sjuthberg]

And he only managed to do that because 'someone' leaked the test-fotage, and it exploded on youtube. There was a similar situation with Sonic. The fans hated the original design of him. But the studio actually listened to the fans and fixed it, while media hated that they were catering to "the toxic fandom". But as Henry Cavill said, the fandoms aren't toxic, their passionate about what they love. Otherwise they wouldn't be fans. That was kind of something George RR Martin also commented on I think. How certain writers/producers can't leave well enough alone, but has to make stories "their own" and "improve" them (ie. ruining the stories). thinking they know better than the actual creators did when they created the stories... It is essentially a matter of to many people in Hollywood and mainstream media suffering from hubris and/or being narcissists.

[@ct6852]

@@sjuthberg The complete Deadpool experience would've totally overwhelmed this movie. All in all it worked out for the best. He needed a solo movie for a real introduction to the vibe and character. I think they did listen to the fans it just came a bit later with Ryan Reynold's help.

[@ericstarkey551]

Remember, in the first movie Jean said he could possibly be older than the professor because of his healing powers, his full name is James "logan" howlett

[@elessartelcontar9415]

He was born between 1882 and 1885.

[@samellowery]

Didn't he fight in the civil war that would be during the 1860s

[@Thundarr100]

​@@samellowery The Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam. Jimmy and Victor fought in all of the major wars since reaching adulthood (at least in this continuity).

[@Eidlones]

She couldn't remember if Deadpool has powers or was just good with swords. She's not going to remember a dropped line from X1

[@Thundarr100]

@@Eidlones Well, that was 4 X-Men movies ago. Plus, she's been watching other movies in between. Give her a break.

[@TNEagan]

While it's not the best movie in the world, Liev Schreiber as Victor Creed is a FANTASTIC performance.

[@JDP5127]

Indeed. I love this movie just for giving us Liev Schreiber as Victor/Sabertooth.

[@danieltodd9038]

Liev Shreiber is good in everything he's in. Very underrated actor. Spring Forward with him and Ned Beatty is a nice dialogue driven drama.

[@celestinomoya4470]

Yeah. Super versatile actor. So talented!

[@TheBS1000]

Even in the lesser films in this franchise, the casting department still knocks it out of the park.

[@SmithDrewSmith]

Leiv was also one of the kidnappers in Ransom. He's great at playing terrible characters.

[@michaelragnarsson3476]

"John Wick did it first" 😂 when you forget this movie came out 5 years before John Wick 😂

[@monovision566]

“Nobody kills you but me.” “Men are so weird.” Great lol moment for me. Nicely done.

[@Charles-ij1ow]

33:48

[@osmanyousif7849]

Hey, those are real men right there....

[@TK199999]

They also forgot, 'I am Charles Xavier and I am really bad CG.'

[@JP47471]

Don;t let anyone tell you this movie isn't important for the franchise... I believe this movie is where Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds became friends.

[@acidrain92]

At the very least its important because of how the Deadpool movies clown on it lol

[@PauloHernandezXD]

This is why I can't dive into these Cape Flick series (Marvel or DC); too much information & too much content that HAS to be seen to understand, lol

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

*movie series

[@louischapman87317]

​@@PauloHernandezXD just take your time and watch them. There's no rush and there aren't a hundred films to watch.

[@PauloHernandezXD]

@@louischapman87317 Yeah, I'll be binge watching a lot of stuff this summer. I may add a couple X-Men movies too. This one is the only I've fully watched in its entirety lol

[@nikocalderon6201]

Sabretooth - "Nobody kills you but me." "Men are so weird." Men watching this - "No no, he's got a point."

[@robpolaris7272]

To be fair he’s a psychopath, not your typical guy. But the violent brother who is protective as soon as someone attacks his brother is kind of typical.

[@billthomas478]

"These timelines are so confusing"-Deadpool

[@MetastaticMaladies]

They don’t remember most of the stuff they watch anyway, they’d be confused regardless

[@ChristopherPayneMUA]

We've officially reached the point in the series when you have to stop trying to make sense of the continuity, because the filmmakers stop caring. Going forward I expect there were a lot of studio conversations that went like this: "We want to do this for the next movie." "Yeah, but that contradicts what we did in the last one." "Who cares?" Wolverine, Cyclops, Deadpool and a few other characters will literally have multiple origin stories throughout the franchise. They even make fun of the fact in the Deadpool movies. Just go with it.

[@Randomcorpse]

While watching this reaction video, I felt like I could hear everyone watching yelling "Victor is Sabretooth"

[@Literarydilettante]

Yep

[@Literarydilettante]

Yep

[@salemoh9759]

Yep 😅

[@ivanribnikov2001]

Literally me

[@wonkothesane8632]

Yeah.

[@karlgrimm3027]

I can’t believe that this is the only live action Gambit.

[@Heller103085]

It really is crazy with how many x movies we have had we havent had more than the 1 minute of gambit

[@MandoTex7500]

As someone who loved the cartoon from the 90s, that's what bothered me about these movies. Just a brief appearance of Gambit and Cyclops wasn't a main character like he should have been. Wolverine is still my favorite X-Men but the rest of the characters were also important.

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

Channing Tatum almost starred in and produced a Gambit movie for the fox X-Men movies universe but it got canceled when Disney bought fox his rumored to make a cameo in deadpool and wolverine

[@bmriverrat11]

I agree I know Wolverine is a fan favorite but almost the entire live action is franchise based on him very little shown to the other X-Men

[@calebgriffy4585]

Let's hope that rumor is true that Channing Tatum will have a cameo as a Gambit variant in Deadpool and Wolverine.

[@reggiebrown9508]

I don't care what people say about the movie but going thru the different wars is one of the best comic book movie openings.

[@Anwelei]

i totally agree!

[@seanyoung743]

Unfortunately there's the rest of the movie.

[@abisheknair2523]

And that opening would've made a better movie than the rest of the movie.

[@coltonpiper6156]

I don’t think the rest of the movie is as bad as you guys make it out to be. I will agree in saying that the opening credits war montage is amazing

[@abisheknair2523]

@@coltonpiper6156 I loved the movie as a kid. This was my first X-men movie. I had a DVD of the movie, watched it over and over again. But now as an adult, after Deadpool and Logan. Nah, this isn't as great as I used to think it was.

[@paulp9274]

They don't sedate him because they can't. Wolverine's healing factor makes him immune to drugs and poisons.

[@w1975b]

He's affected in The Wolverine, though. I won't say anymore than that because they'll probably watch it.

[@Supadrumma441]

@@Rocket_Man232 In the Logan timeline the food industry genetically modified the foods to weaken and eventually obliterate the mutant x gene. Logan was perfectly fine until the food weakened his healing factor. Before then he was able to simply out heal the poison.

[@LoganBluth]

@@w1975b I think the writers just use it as an "as needed" rule. You wouldn't think he could be knocked out for more than a few seconds, but in X1 he gets knocked out for at least a few hours when Sabretooth hits him with a big stick. Haha

[@w1975b]

@@LoganBluth guess you could say having to fight/heal the adamantium every minute might contribute to a delay in healing other things.

[@LoganBluth]

@@w1975b Eh, healing from a brain injury is the same mechanically as healing from lacerations on the skin - You get knocked out when your brain bounces off the inside of your skull causing physical damage to your brain tissue. So Logan's brain tissue repairing itself is no different to his skin healing from massive lacerations. Also, he gets shot in the head in X2 and that only puts him out for a few seconds. Hell, he gets shot literally through the brain in this one and he's only out for a couple of minutes at most. Honestly, the internal continuity of these films, from timelines, to character ages, to how their powers work, are a complete mess, so you just kind of have to go with whatever the current film says and not try to explain previous installments.

[@CrownlessKing88]

They talked about it in the first X-men film. “His healing factor makes his cells die a lot slower, which makes his age impossible to determine. He may very well be older than you Professor” is basically what was said. Yes his powers are the healing/regeneration and bone claws. They added the Adamantium later because he could survive it.

[@mendosa2519]

Oui mais du coup l'apport de l'adamantium directement dans son organisme a dû affaiblir son système de régénération naturel au point que, bénéficiant toujours d'elle dans une certaine mesure, ses cellules, mises constamment en lutte contre le corps étranger que représente l'adamantium ne sont plus en mesure de se régénérer sur le long terme aussi efficacement que par le passé, ce qui accélère leur mort en impactant durablement l'espérance de vie de l'organisme. C'est du "transhumanisme mutant" (ou mutanisme ?) qui permet une augmentation significative mais qui se paye par le sacrifice d'un certain nombre indéterminé de décennies à vivre, dans le cas de Logan. Mais d'un point de vue officiel je dois peut-être me tromper, car dans Logan (2017) il est empoisonné. Est-ce par cette substance verte qui boost énormément sa régénération mais qui à forte dose devient mortelle pour lui ?

[@mrwayne6277]

32:34 "Hey, it's me! Just cleanin' up the timeline!"

[@w1975b]

I get the reference, I've seen Deadpool, but I don't understand how he could "take care" of that version if all versions have truly unlimited healing including from decapitation.

[@wandelndeslexikon1614]

​@@w1975b He's Marvel Jesus. That's why.

[@leegutierrez1562]

When they're looking for the adamantium in Africa, there's a split second where you can see a little girl with white hair run behind Victor, that would be Storm. Remember, Victor is Sabertooth, the one who attacks Rogue and Logan after Logan finds her hitchhiking on his trailer in the first X-Men movie. This version of Deadpool isn't the same one as the ones from his own movies, though they do retcon it for the prequel movies.

[@timmooney7528]

The meteorites in Africa are technically Vibranium. Adamantium is an artificially synthesized alloy intended to be a substitute for the rare Vibranium. Main difference is Vibranium can absorb all vibrational energies, while adamantium is virtually indestructible.

[@AaronLitz]

@@timmooney7528 Adamantium was the result of metallurgist Myron MacLain's attempt to reproduce the unknown indestructible vibranium-steel alloy he had developed that became Cap's shield. He wasn't sure exactly what was in in because he'd been working for days and fell asleep during an experiment, and while he was asleep something happened that he could never reproduce. It isn't quite as indestructible as Cap's shield, but _almost._

[@ianjardine7324]

As far as fans are concerned Deadpool in this movie is not Deadpool they took far to many liberties with the character and within the community that was just unacceptable as he is as beloved as wolverine for many of the same reasons he's a darker more complex character than most in the MCU with a real sense of depth and tragedy rarely seen in superheroes. The version Ryan plays in the standalone movies is far closer to the source material a barely sane immortal who knows he's just a character in a strange story like universe who quite often just wishes he could die.

[@LordofMovies91]

There's a deleted scene that shows her more prominently during the whole scenario as well

[@stevealford230]

@@timmooney7528 Adamantium is an alloy of Vibranium and Iron. Before someone says "Steel, not Iron" ... Steel is Iron and Carbon.

[@kimberly-louisesisko6694]

You Missed The Post Credits Scene - FYI All The Remaining X Universe Movies Have Post Credit Sequences

[@diggerdog9205]

This

[@shanajeangedeon9060]

The post credit here doesn't matter, it literally goes nowhere😅

[@Ambaryerno]

There were two, and it really pissed people off that which credits scene you got depended on which theater you saw it in. The show I went to just had the final scene with Stryker aimlessly wandering. Other people saw the Deadpool scene.

[@-taz-]

I'm sure they watched it in the full reaction because she always seems to know about those.

[@masamune2984]

@@shanajeangedeon9060 It massively matters for the jokes in the Deadpool franchise.

[@kimberly-louisesisko6694]

P.S. Remember Back To The First X-Men Movie Jean Grey States "This Also Makes His Age Impossible To Determine, He Could Very Well Be Older Than You Professor"

[@elessartelcontar9415]

He was born between 1882 and 1885.

[@wiseguy01]

​@@elessartelcontar9415he fought in the American civil war, which ended in like 1865.... so he was born at least in the 1830s.

[@NarwahlGaming]

When Beast calls him "kid" and has no idea. 😂

[@alexgonzalez-fn9jb]

@@NarwahlGaming “did he just call me ‘boy’?”

[@patrickcromwell7554]

Okay so wolverine was in fact a kind of Black Ops. specialist before joining the X Men. He worked for a secret military operation and he started using the slogan "I'm the best at what I do; and what I do isn't very nice." Essentially, when military were not sufficient enough to get the job done they sent in Wolverine to eliminate enemy hostiles. And he was VERY effective at it.

[@Hynrah]

"Men are so weird!" HAHAHA Carly I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

[@jollygoodfellow3957]

They can't put James/Logan under anesthesia because his healing factor is so strong that it metabolizes drugs super quickly. So he has to go through adamantium bonding while feeling everything.

[@BarryHart-xo1oy]

Good to know.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Only big plothole I have with this though is, why didn’t they give the bullets to Agent Zero after. If Stryker was really that smart, he’d have realized to keep them on the most accurate shot marksmen in case things go south and Logan tries anything. Seriously, can you imagine if when he woke up and broke free, Zero shot him with the adamantium bullet?

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

They say that in the movie. It just isn't in the KZbin edit.

[@YodatheHobbit]

I think Steve Rogers has that same principal, minus the healing. Drugs don't work on him.

[@alshabib5849]

@@osmanyousif7849 it gets sillier when you realise it was just to get their DNA which they could have gotten far easier from his GF who was regularly taking samples nightly lmao

[@matthewdunham1689]

Nobody kills you but me. That’s a classic comicbook trope. Signifying the love hate relationship of heroes and their archenemies many of the time. ❤😂

[@Ambaryerno]

With Sabretooth it's just pure hate (and the feeling is pretty mutual).

[@chadfalardeau5396]

In this case it also shows the bond between brothers

[@edenarchive4150]

Apparently that's how all men are according to these airheads. There are a few movies I could make generalizations of about women as well. Or would that be offensive?

[@cinephgeeek]

Sabertooth actually tracks down Logan every year on his birthday and kicks his ass. It's like tradition

[@ieyke]

Wolverine's real name is James Howlett. Born to Elizabeth Howlett, and raised by her and her husband, John Howlett. Logan is an alias he uses, based on the name of his biological father Thomas Logan. In the comics Sabertooth (Victor Creed) IS NOT related to Wolverine in any way, though the government DID screw with Logan's memories to make Logan THINK he might be Sabertooth's brother or son.

[@chriswood7632]

this story is based on a much later graphic novel called "Origins: Wolverine" the early story is very similar, including Victor being his brother.

[@nvp8191]

Wolverine's name is James howlett nickname is Logan or before he forgets his name Jimmy. Logan's brother is Victor Creed AKA sabertooth the same guy who was telling storm to scream in the first X-Men movie.

[@ieyke]

@@chriswood7632 The comic is just called "Origin" (or sometimes "Wolverine:Origin" or "Origin:The True Story of Wolverine"), and he's not at all related to Sabertooth. His half-brother is Dog Logan.

[@passionsquietrage]

I'm pretty sure there was a point where it was speculated/rumored/believed that they were brothers in the comics before it was confirmed that they weren't.

[@chriswood7632]

@@ieyke you might be right, I stopped reading comics in the early 90's. I saw this and purused it at a comic store much more recently, but I never read it.

[@robg5640]

Others have mentioned it, but it's worth mentioning again: John Carter. I think you guys would love it. It's a fun adventure that stars the guy that played Gambit.

[@w1975b]

and the actress who played Logan's girlfriend

[@wolphintv]

I swear, “John Carter” wouldn’t have bombed so hard if Disney just advertised it as “Taylor Kitsch jumps around wearing a loincloth and a smile”.

[@gibbs615]

Wolverine's brother Victor was SABERTOOTH!!! The one he fought in the first movie.

[@ieyke]

If you've never seen Kate & Leopold, you should 100% watch that. You and Carly would LOVE it. It stars Hugh Jackman AND Liev Schreiber

[@earlbrown]

That's definitely a ''Carly joins in'' movie.

[@ieyke]

@@earlbrown 100%

[@duanelavely5481]

Lynn Collins (Kayla Silverfox) also played Dejah Thoris in "John Carter" (2012) with Taylor Kitsch (Gambit) as John Carter.

[@robertsanssouci2093]

Love that movie so much

[@alexanderfish4797]

Another film worthy of a viewing that is way better than common opinion would dictate.

[@Pink.andahalf]

This movie has one of the best opening credits ever created. Rest of the movie is so so, but I've always loved the march through history and warfare the brothers do.

[@shanepye7078]

Logan was the name of his real father - the grounds keeper. This movie condensed wolverines childhood and early life into a few minutes. He didn’t leave with Dog in the comic, he had a friend named Rose who left with him and said it was his name when they got to a work camp in order to conceal who he was. And Victor is Sabertooth. They made them brothers when the half brother was named “Dog” and wasn’t Sabertooth.

[@Charles-ij1ow]

18:11 Wolverine popping up, Her mouth drops, wolverine shot in head grrr, she grrr's with him, he get's shot at, her squeamish face. What we're here for.

[@danielallen3454]

The Weapon X Program produced mutant soldiers. The Weapon I Program was also called Operation: Rebirth. It created Captain America.

[@ghostofyourmom]

Correct. Wolverine was Weapon X (weapon "10"). Captain America was Weapon I.

[@thatHARVguy]

*Star-Spangled Man with a Plan intensifies*

[@NoHandleGrr]

And Isaiah Bradley, among other super-soldier experiments before Steve Rogers.

[@danielallen3454]

@@NoHandleGrr Bradley was after. Rogers was the original, and only truly "successful" super-soldier. Because Erskine withheld certain key details about the formula and process. All the other Weapon Programs were attempts to replicate Erskine's formula. With varying degrees of success.

[@DavidLopez-qi8hb]

Weapon X is Logan. Weapon X-23 is Laura. Weapon X-24 is Logan's clone.

[@jacfalle27]

You were talking to your sister at the moment, but did you notice the boy on ice with one green eye and one blue? That was Stryker’s son from X2, the one he was using to control Professor X.

[@rollmops7948]

​​Wolverine and Victor were already together in the movie "Kate and Leopold" with Meg Ryan

[@joelwillems4081]

Great film!

[@mamandes]

I forgot about that! And they were also related in that movie (at least in the director's cut).

[@Fable91]

Different actor and they ignored the whole being Wolverine's brother thing, but they were both in the first X-Men movie too. Victor is the big guy who works for Magneto. The one that isn't Toad or Mystique.

[@andrewphillips5323]

Victor is Sabretooth, they do say his name in the movie.

[@NarwahlGaming]

That was a surprisingly good movie for me. _"Behold! Rising before you! The greatest erection on the continent!"_ 😂

[@Kevin.King71]

When Wolverine was first created, his claws were bionic implants, like Deadpool's blade. It wasn't until decades later that it was reconned that his claws were actually bone. This begs the question - how did his claws get so sharp and smooth if they are his old bone claws covered in adamantium?

[@JozyMozy]

26:12 as soon as y'all lit up when you saw "Tim Riggins," I just had to come to the comments to recommend a movie he stars in: John Carter (2012). The female lead is also Lynn Collins, the beautiful actress who played Logan's sweetheart in this movie. It's so underrated, and I think Cas and Carly would both love it.

[@jacktupp4358]

You did see his brother "again" in the first X-Men movie. His brother is Sabertooth and he was the one who attacked him, in his truck and camper, when he and Rogue were in Alaska. Edit: Sabertooth: Different actor but same character.

[@jkhoover]

Only same character by name. It's not Wolverine's brother in X1.

[@kah_hota]

They were attacked by Sabretooth in Alberta, Canada, not Alaska.

[@BrennaUrbangirl]

@@jkhoover We don't know that for certain. Since this was made after the original trilogy. It's not like they can go back and put in a line in X1 of Sabertooth saying something like. "Hi, brother, miss me?" That is the problem of doing prequels after the fact. Unless Fox were to come along (which they aren't now that the X-Men are moving to the MCU) and say they weren't the same person, they very likely are the same person.

[@jonasolofsson4128]

Isn't the no prize explanation that Victor gave in to his animal side - thus the quite more animalistic look and behaviour.

[@Deadpool-px2nm]

@@jkhoover Bro they literally made a prequel comic for X2 revealing Sabretooth in X1 is Wolverine's brother in Origins.

[@ChrisReise]

5:42 Yes, Carly. You know him. He's the old guy in "X2" that wanted to kill all the mutants. His son, Jason was in the wheel chair trying to get Charles to kill all the mutants. Magneto tied him to to the helicopter. Just a younger version.

[@paulkondon]

Jason is the kid with different colored eyes (heterochromia) in the freezer.

[@DarthSherm94]

Was gonna comment on that as well, glad you beat me to it

[@ieyke]

In the original X-Men movies, the big beast guy Magneto henchman who attacks Wolverine and Rogue in the RV, when Wolverine and Rogue first meet, THAT was Sabertooth - Victor Creed (for the purposes of this movie universe, Wolverine's brother). Same character, different actor.

[@joelwillems4081]

That actor, Tyler Mane, was really bummed to not get the role in this film. But he's a wrestler and doesn't have the acting chops of a Liev Schreiber. Schreiber put on 40 pounds of muscle in just over 3 months to play the role.

[@Garbowhat]

Yeah it's better to pretend it's 2 separate characters. There's literally no benefit to knowing those are the same characters when in the future sabretooth literally doesn't act the same or even reference a connection. God the Xmen movies are so awful.

[@ieyke]

@@Garbowhat Well, HALF of them are good and make sense together, and the other half are an incoherent clusterfuck.

[@Garbowhat]

@@ieyke I honestly think aside from first class, they are garbage. Incoherence aside, they are just very, very poorly written, with the majority of characters having 0 fleshing out.

[@draygontaygen677]

Logan and Victor aren't blood brothers, they were raised together in the same house and they always saw each other as brothers. Both had different fathers and mothers, both families sheared the same house for financial reasons. I do see where people think that they are blood brothers. I did read somewhere a long time ago that it could be possible that they are first cousins, raised together like brothers. It's possible that this could be the case.

[@goldenshark3182]

You ladies should watch “John Carter of Mars”, a very underrated film and the grand daddy of all sci-fi stories. The actor who plays Gambit in this film plays John Carter and the actress who played Wolverine’s wife plays the female lead Dejah Thoris.

[@DivineShadow218]

In 2004-ish in the Deadpool comic, Deadpool mentions he looks like if Ryan Reynolds got bit by a sharpei. Ryan Reynolds has been a long time Deadpool fan, and got to play him in this movie. The upsetting thing is, due to studio interference, the character wasn't depicted well from the source comics. Ryan Reynolds fought tooth and nail to get Fox to make an accurate Deadpool movie, made a screen test, Fox passed on the movie, the screen test got leaked and fan reactions to that screen test helped green light the move we all know as Deadpool in 2016 which is a really close representation of the source material.

[@timmooney7528]

IIRC in the 2016 film he has an action figure version of Deadpool with the sword blades in his arms.

[@passionsquietrage]

There's a post credit scene that set up this version of Deadpool(the hate for which makes no sense) to return as an accurate version, but people (including Ryan himself) couldn't be patient and let that happen for some reason.

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

He definitely wasn't a "long time" fan. Someone told him the comic made a joke about him and that's when he found out about the character. He only started reading DP because he was cast in the movie. He talked about it a lot when the first DP movie was coming out. And it's definitely a "more" accurate DP but it's still wildly off from the actual DP comic.

[@The--Dude]

Funny she used to make fun of her dad for "Star Trek" now she has memorabilia in her room! 😆

[@RoadWarrior77]

That's what I was thinking, too. I'm a Star Trek fan, myself, and I might have a model Enterprise somewhere, but she has gone full Trekkie. I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted to start going to Star Trek conventions.

[@E_y_a_l]

When did she made fun of her dad? she mentioned he's a fan and have watched the shows when she was a child, I don't think she made fun of him.

[@thestartreker.official]

​@@RoadWarrior77 I have two Enterprise models, TNG's Enterprise-D and the original Enterprise from the Kelvin timeline even a Spock pop figure and a rug of the original USS Enterprise from the original series and the United Federation of Planets along with the American and British Flag in my room along with autographs and photo-ops/selfies from Star Trek actors who I've met even I have two different Starfleet Captain uniforms. I've been to a Star Trek convention in Nashville, Tennessee but I also have been to Comic Con in San Diego, California once even Lexington Comic & Toy Con in Kentucky and often I've been to Fanboy Expo in Knoxville, Tennessee near where I live. Of course I also got Star Wars, DC (especially Superman, Batman, Harley Quinn and Catwoman), Marvel (even Spider-Man and X-Men), Halo, Mass Effect and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles posters all in my room. Lol. I've been enjoying all of Cassie's Star Trek, Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Batman, Superman, X-Men, Spider-Man and the MCU video reactions! 😊

[@karlsmith2570]

Well, it didn't much to convert her. It was the same with me, due to my eldest sister being a huge fan of Star Trek TOS

[@te1013]

Ahhh. X-Men origins wolverine… My favorite haircut in the series.!

[@ericlencher2356]

Liev is known for 7 seasons as the lead actor in Showtime's Ray Donovan, and was a charachter actor before getting his big break. He co starred in some movies with big actors like Sphere with Dustin Hoffman& Samuel L Jackson, he co-starred in Goon with Sean William Scott, and co-starred in the Manchurian candidate with Denzel.

[@Eduardo-yj5cd]

4:02: American Civil War (1861-1865) 4:10: First World War (1914-1918) 4:31: Operation Overlord- second world war (1933-1945) 4:49: Vietnam war (1955-1975)

[@ericstarkey551]

Victor is sabre tooth from the first movie and the guy running the unit is Stryker from the 3rd movie.

[@JMO_1976]

Stryker was from the 2nd movie.

[@jkhoover]

Victor is a different reimagined Sabertooth. Not the one from the first movie.

[@Fable91]

@@jkhoover It's still the same character. The Fox X-Men movies have always had horrible continuity.

[@JMO_1976]

@@Fable91 Like when Charles can and can't walk for example.

[@Frey_2026]

@@Fable91 I believe they are both based on the same character, but in the movies they are two separate ones

[@stiimuli]

You don't remember: In the first X-men movie when Jean was telling everyone about her examination of Logan she said "He has uncharted regenerative capabilities....which also makes his age impossible to determine. He could very well be older than you, Professor." Also, many of your questions will be addressed in the next X-men movies you watch.

[@johnnybraccia452]

They're only watching it once. They also missed the fact you see Stryker's kid on ice. even though the editor definitely knew.

[@stiimuli]

@@johnnybraccia452 yeah I noticed that too XD

[@residentfan1521]

@@johnnybraccia452 tbf Stryker’s son is MUCH younger here so can’t really fault them on that one

[@joshuagoforth1658]

I still love this movie no matter what anyone says

[@MrPhotosh00ter]

Same

[@shanedaley6236]

All the X-Men movies story's and world's were crafted beautifully I wouldn't say I love all of them but I do enjoy watching them

[@richardgreenwoodjr5263]

Hot take, but I liked this way more than The Wolverine. Origins is a bit cheesy, but very fun - The Wolverine just stunk imo. (criminally under utilized sequence in the city when all the Ninja's attack him- could have been epic, but ended up so disappointing)

[@OldDragon0]

Wolverines brother is sabertooth. Sabertooth is in the first xmen movie. His the one that attack Wolverine and Rogue. When the tree falls on his truck. And they kill this Deadpool time in this movie. The only Cannon deadpool timeline is the one that starts with the first deadpool movie.

[@nicksmyth4050]

This movie is a mix between 2 Wolverine comics. “Wolverine Origins” (the opening scene) & “Weapon X”. And I think, while not at all perfect, they blend them together well. Heck, Sabretooth has such an amazing origin in this. Also, a lot of people forgot just how evil Deadpool was before he went through his redemption arc to become the antihero we know now. Before Cable, Domino, Wolverine, & Spider-Man inspired him to be a better person, he was arguably one of the more evil Marvel supervillains, with literally MILLIONS of men, women, & children’s deaths he’s responsible for (he was a herald for Galactus for a bit as well)

[@Lensmaster1]

I like most of the audience don't read superhero comics. I know the basics of a number of the classic super heroes, but don't know the varied story lines over the years. I had never heard of Deadpool until the movies came out. So whatever happened in the comic books is irrelevant to my enjoyment of the movies.

[@michaelanderson5301]

Adamantium slowed down Wolverine's healing factor considerably. He still heals at amazing rates and ages slowly compared to other humans or mutants.

[@thatHARVguy]

Because of the bonding, he no longer can access his bone marrow. His healing is constantly fighting Aplastic Anemia (can't make new blood cells and platelets).

[@Supadrumma441]

@@thatHARVguy Coupled with the fact in the Logan timeline the food is genetically modified to damage and attack the mutant x gene, further weakening his healing factor. He was still fully capable of out healing the adamantium poisoning until that happened.

[@jonmercano1138]

You two should watch the 90s cartoon. I think you’d love it. And the continuation X-Men 97 If you didn’t see it pointed out in the comments before, Victor is Sabretooth from the first movie. So he’s gone. Also, him and Logan being confirmed brothers is original to these movies. He appears again in a comic and a video game set after X1 and X2 respectively, but whether they’re canon is unclear

[@CYB3R2K]

Which makes absolutely no sense.

[@royedmonson7033]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(comics) The graphic novel this is loosely based on predates the movie by eight years. And Victor has been taunting Logan about them being related since the late 80's.

[@shanedaley6236]

I don't believe they put the brother connection into the first 3 movies this is why I think this movie is the first to branch off into other x men timelines

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

In the comics, Victor believed he was Logan's dad. He killed Silverfox on Logan's birthday. Except that he didn't, because it was all memory tricks. Unless it was. But it probably wasn't.

[@jonmercano1138]

@@royedmonson7033well they’re always tied to each other, but never by blood. That’s been theorized but never proven. There’s a comic where they’re fighting at a time after Logan got all his memories back and he explicitly says “You’re not my father, my brother, or my clone.”

[@kjax0630]

They don't even realize the black cowboy is Will I Am from Black Eyed Peas 😂

[@stich21]

I didn't know until you just said it lol

[@Lensmaster1]

This is the first I learned of that.

[@Jutrzen]

Well He Is

[@EC-hx2ou]

Not everyone is into the black eyed peas, just like not everyone is into country music or metal. Or even classical music for that matter.

[@jessebutler1728]

Was their a white cowboy or a yellow cowboy?

[@shanecoleman1597]

Cyclop's laser beams come from another dimension, his eyes are a portal to a dimension that is only filled with that pink crimson energy 34:29

[@theblindracer812]

wolverine's real name is james howlett logan is his biological father. in most iterations he's the first person wolverine kills and doing so adopts the name

[@michaelanderson5301]

Chris Claremont, the writer of the X-Men for two decades had said Sabretooth and Wolverine were father and son. This idea was changed to half brothers later on.

[@manny7662]

Half Brothers makes more sense.

[@spiderrico4410]

Wasn't the idea that Dog Logan and Sabretooth were to be one and the same, but it was later abandoned to keep Sabretooth's air of mystery? I think (probably incorrectly) that, as of the most recent continuity I am aware of, Logan killed Sabretooth's sister prompting the latter to seek revenge.

[@Renoistic]

It's one of those things that is up to the readers to decide, because it's obvious the writers can't/won't tell.

[@Ambaryerno]

@@spiderrico4410 I don't think they planned to make them the same, rather that it was meant to be a red herring from the start.

[@roystoyscomics1361]

Not Fakepool. 😆😂 Poor Ryan Reynolds...the dues you have to pay. Cyclops gets his optic blasts from a link with another dimension. As long as his eyes are open... he's blasting. Cyclops was born with the ability to control his mutation but he suffered a brain injury as a teenager that affected that part of his brain. 😮

[@jaybling6687]

Barakapool

[@elessartelcontar9415]

So Cyclops' birth must have been wild. I assume he didn't open his eyes in the womb!

[@jaybling6687]

@@elessartelcontar9415 I think they changed things for the movies to show that mutations manifest at some childhood age.

[@UTubeHandlesSuck]

@@jaybling6687 No changes. Mutation always occurred at puberty in the comics too, triggered by the same hormone dump.

[@stellarhyme3]

@@elessartelcontar9415 Mutant powers don’t manifest until around puberty or after so he was born normally.

[@LeonardoKlotz]

Good thing I didn't know who Deadpool was when this movie came out

[@passionsquietrage]

Clearly, very few knew that much about him.

[@adaddinsane]

Damn right.

[@PhilS0341]

I'd been reading Deadpool for years when this movie came out. That last scene was an outrage.

[@texascard]

39:11 His brother is in the first X-MEN movie He’s the one with the long hair and fangs and he’s with Magneto

[@wolphintv]

Your confusion over this movie’s… *Different*… Deadpool had me in stitches. 😅

[@tobygrimes9633]

As an 80's/90's kid and a huge fan of the animated series , I shouted out loud in the theater when I saw Gambit on screen. All the girls loved him and all the boys eanted to be him ( including me).

[@Anwelei]

gambit is STILL My x-men crush and i'm 42... *SIGH* he made my teenage girl heart melt in the 90s cartoon

[@jkhoover]

Never liked Gambit.

[@RobGamesOn]

He's my favorite X-Man

[@angelohernandez6060]

Hell no! I would never want to be the kind of douchebag that refers to himself in the third person.

[@tobygrimes9633]

If you are so powerful that you have part of your brain removed to control it , you can refer to yourself however you like. REMEMBER IT!

[@louischapman87317]

I hope the ladies read a lot of the comments they were so confused during many parts of this movie and with the original trilogy also, bless their poor sweet squeamish confused hearts 😂

[@patmurray9730]

Logan's brother is Sabertooth. The guy who attacks him in the beginning of X-Men.

[@Oshaoxin]

Victor called Logan Jimmy because his real name is James Howlett. The actor that played Bradley is Dominic Monaghan, he played Merry in LOTR. Logan and Victor don't age because of their accelerated healing factor. Victor's mutant name is Sabertooth, he enjoys the hunt and inflicting pain. Later in life he becomes more animal-like too. William Stryker only made Logan stronger, even though his original intention was to create a perfect weapon to use at his beck and call.

[@break-a-lightentertainment940]

One of the reasons people might have said skip it is because the movie is not really considered Canon to the X-Men series. None of the other movies acknowledge it and some even blatantly contradicts it. Deadpool is alive and has a mouth in Deadpool (and no laser beams). Stuff that happens to Xavier in the next movie X-Men 1st Class totally retcons how he is here and partially how he and Magneto are in X-Men 3 the Last Stand. Just know it is here that the timeline becomes a little inconsistent. But just in case you don't know, the next movie to watch is X-Men 1st Class, then the Wolverine ( which is Wolverine 2), then X-Men Days of Future Past. It'll make sense why you need to watch it in that order when you do.

[@EdiCemalovic]

Still fun to watch X-Men movies.

[@joshuacampbell7493]

Wolverine would say to you: Weapon X made me a killing machine. But I pull the trigger.

[@Fable91]

He's the best there is at what he does lol

[@nvp8191]

Wolverine real name is James howlett and his nickname is Logan. His brother is Victor Creed AKA sabertooth Magneto's henchmen from the first X-Men movie who was telling storm he wants her to scream. Now in different media sabertooth is not related to wolverine. Sometimes he's his father sometimes he's his brother just depend on the story that once told. Spoiler alert if you're wondering about Deadpool it takes place in an alternate timeline or reality which is not Canon to the Fox X-Men universe.

[@elessartelcontar9415]

Wolverine killed his real father when he was 13. His mother was so repulsed by it that he ran away immediately.

[@passionsquietrage]

It would have been canon if people (including Ryan himself) hadn't had whatever issues they had with the version of Deadpool used in this movie.

[@dwightguthrie8757]

In the 1st X-Men movie Sabertooth Is played by Tyler Mane also know as Victor Creed. In this movie Liev Schreiber played Victor Creed aka Sabertooth.

[@AngelusNZ]

His Brother (Victor) is "Sabertooth" - that is the same character Wolverine fights in the snow during the first movie when he is driving away from the bar with Rogue. (Different actor played Sabertooth in both films)

[@JustinHamsley]

For more Liev Shrieber mark down "Mixed Nuts" (1994) for a Christmas movie. It's a play style comedy directed by Nora Ephron. Stellar cast, and one of Liev's first roles.

[@Y2KNW]

Liev in Goon. Or Liev in RKO 281.

[@Motorheadache95]

Just remember everyone, this movie is important to the series- without it you wouldn’t get some of the jokes in the Deadpool movies!

[@garydodd2837]

That i get but it goes off the rails, is so cheesy and feels like its not part of any of the other movies..like the Joker movie with DC but just bad unlike Logan which is pretty much the same but good...

[@lokithecat7225]

Missing a couple of Jokes is probably the better choice. I'm sure there are many viewers that didn't understand "Happy Womens Day" who still enjoyed Deadpool.

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

The jokes aren't integral to the Deadpool movies. Its like all the comic references that 99% of people who watch comic movies will never understand because they don't actually read comics. Its the same people who say Hugh is wolverine when in fact almost every single thing about Hugh is the polar opposite of wolverine.

[@Motorheadache95]

@@garydodd2837 yeah it didn’t feel like they put any effort making it a legit prequel- it doesn’t match up with what we learn about the character in the other movies.

[@matiasvignoli6889]

​@@Motorheadache95he ahi la gracia del multuverso. Hacer una prlicula que no tiene que ser precuela ni secuela. Para que los guonista no se rompan la cabeza buscándole una conexión entre historias. Los de rapido y furioso no lo ebtendieron y revivieron a todos los personajes.

[@JohnDBIRL]

So, just so you know the post credit scenes become really important as the movies go on. Like plot explaining important. So make sure you watch them! ❤️

[@Kni6ght2000]

My favourite reaction channel. Shout out to the editing of the vids. This is another artform a lot of reaction vids never always get right. Rewatching films combined with the perfect editing and reaction has been amazing on this channel

[@Rellj16]

You should definitely rewatch Deadpool.. with Carly... for the channel. LoL We would love that!

[@joeblankenship377]

Back when studios made comic book movies without reading any comic books.

[@CYB3R2K]

I mean batman 89 was done like that and it's considered a classic, so you tell me.

[@Eidlones]

That wasn't the problem. It was just a bad movie. 90's direct to video type action movie.

[@passionsquietrage]

It's not that they didn't read any comic books, it's that they used elements from comics that aren't well known.

[@logicplague]

Lol, when? They still do make movies without reading the source material.

[@Lensmaster1]

I haven't read any of the comic books, so I enjoy superhero movies the way the writers and directors created them.

[@THERE.ARE.4.LIGHTS.]

I would give Cyclops' left eye to see Gambit energizes Wolverine's claws.

[@rlh125]

I'm sure lots of people are saying this, but 1. Logan's brother is Sabertooth, the wild man who worked for Magneto in the first X-Men movie. 2. The Deadpool in this movie is actually killed in a post-credit scene at the end of one of the Deadpool movies (I think the first one). People HATED how Deadpool was treated in this movie. The depiction in the Deadpool movies is much, MUCH more faithful than the abomination in this movie. So the maker of the Deadpool movie had Deadpool kill this abomination as an act of fan service. By the way, Deadpool also killed Ryan Reynolds to prevent him from making the terrible Green Lantern movie. 😂 This movie gets a bad rap because some of the CGI is terrible and the last act gets dumb (the way Deadpool was treated, the idea that Stryker could know in advance that shooting Logan in the head with an adamantium bullet would cause him to lose his memories...which is absurd, since his healing factor would heal any biological damage, etc). If not for these terrible writing choices, it would be a very solid movie.

[@passionsquietrage]

First off, the version of Deadpool used in this movie was hated for dumb reasons. And he would have become the version we all know in a later movie as set up by the post credit scene, but people decided to hate and complain instead of being patient. Apparently this version of Deadpool is based on the original appearance of the character before being changed into the one we know. Second, the GL movie is NOT that bad(there are worse DC movies, like Flash). It had some minor issues (mainly combining two different villains into one for some reason), but it isn't that bad overall. Third, where was there "bad cgi"? What's absurd about Stryker knowing that an adamantium bullet would erase Logan's memories?

[@jkhoover]

​@@passionsquietrage I'm really sick of seeing comments saying a movie is "not that bad.". We deserve good or great movies, and Green Lantern is not good. In fact it's bad. Also, yes, this version of Deadpool just sucks. It's stupid and they rebooted it because it was stupid. You're welcome to like it, but you were vastly outvoted.

[@Ambaryerno]

@@passionsquietrage Deadpool's original appearance was as a shameless ripoff of DC's Deathstroke the Terminator (Liefeld can deny it all he likes, he's not fooling anybody).

[@passionsquietrage]

@@jkhoover What's stupid about it? It was just a different take on the character's origin. It was originally intended to evolve into the version we all know in a later movie, but people decided to complain and whine about it instead of simply being patient enough to let that evolution happen for some reason. As for GL, it was decent overall. It would have been much better of they hadn't combined two different villains into one.

[@rlh125]

@@passionsquietrage “First off, the version of Deadpool used in this movie was hated for dumb reasons.” As is typical of too many internet comments that start this way, you will go on to show that you don’t know what you’re talking about in 3, 2, 1… “And he would have become the version we all know in a later movie as set up by the post credit scene, but people decided to hate and complain instead of being patient.” There was nothing in that post credit scene that suggested the character was going to be like the Merc With A Mouth he is famous for being. He was still sporting swords in his arms, so the obvious assumption is that he also still had all the superpowers he had been given. “Apparently this version of Deadpool is based on the original appearance of the character before being changed into the one we know.” Apparently? Didn't you bother to look it up before you decided to call everyone's criticisms dumb? Of course not. This is the internet, where people spew insults and talk about things they can’t be bothered to learn about first. Deadpool, in his first appearance, was a ripoff of DC’s Deathstroke (down to their names: Wade Wilson and Slade Wilson). He looked exactly like the Deadpool from the Deadpool movies and nothing like the Deadpool in this Wolverine movie. He didn’t pop swords out of his arms, shoot Cyclop’s eyeblasts, teleport, etc. as he did in the movie. The one way that he WAS different from the Deadpool we currently know is that, at this point, his sarcastic insanity hadn’t been developed. But he was nothing like the abomination in this Wolverine movie. “Second, the GL movie is NOT that bad (there are worse DC movies, like Flash). It had some minor issues (mainly combining two different villains into one for some reason), but it isn't that bad overall.” It has a 45% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. Audiences are generally pretty forgiving and RT’s algorithm tends to push scores higher by suppressing the lowest reviews, but GL still sits at 45%. By the way, the suck-fest that is “The Flash” has a (undeserved) RT audience score of 83%. Almost twice as high as “Green Lantern”. And using “there are worse DC movie, like Flash” as an endorsement for “Green Lantern” actually made me laugh. Almost any movie can be said to be “not that bad” if we compare it with a movie that is worse. That doesn’t make it good. Tommy Wiseau’s “The Room”, pretty much a meme for bad movies, has almost exactly the same score as “GL.” “where was there ‘bad cgi’?” When Logan pops his claws in the old couple’s bathroom. That scene is almost always mentioned as an example of terrible CGI. I just did a quick KZbin search and saw that it is actually used in the thumbnail for Watch Mojo’s video titled “Top 20 Worst CGI Effects in Superhero Movies.” “What's absurd about Stryker knowing that an adamantium bullet would erase Logan's memories?” It would be impossible to predict something like that! lol And, since Logan’s healing factor heals his body almost instantaneously, the expectation should have been that blunt force to the head would NOT have caused him to lose his memory. Not only that, but the movies had already established that Wolverine could be shot in the forehead and be just fine. It happened in X-Men 2 on Bobby Drake’s parent’s porch. The fact that a bullet is made of adamantium is irrelevant since the bullet can’t (and didn’t) penetrate his skull. So all that he has to deal with is the blunt force trauma. So…no memory loss. And CERTAINLY no reason that Styker could KNOW it would cause memory loss. It’s bad writing. Since Ryan Reynolds’s Deadpool killed both this movie’s abomination of a “Deadpool” AND Ryan Reynolds himself for reading the GL script and saying “That’s beautiful!”, I think it’s pretty obvious that you are being overly kind to the bad writers of this movie (and GL) and UNkind to people who see the serious flaws in the film. kzbin.info/www/bejne/onXVdHabm5uhY7csi=7RL3lWGgXfVmzn8m

[@robpolaris7272]

This has the best intro montage of any comic book movie. Logan’s birth name was James Howlett. But his biological father’s last name was Logan so now he goes by Logan but a lot of his documents say James Howlett. I thought despite losing his memory of Kayla he gets the name Wolverine from her which he keeps. It’s like part of Kayla is always with him. Also Kayla’s tactile hypnosis doesn’t work on Wolverine or his brother because of their healing, just like anesthesia doesn’t work on them.

[@GabrielPunk]

Fun Fact: Ryan wasn’t in the final act of the movie cause he didn’t like their plan for Deadpool. It was actually action star Scott Akins who stepped in for weapon 11.

[@Vaillle]

lol, “John wick did it first@ 😂

[@steamro11r]

5 yrs later

[@jaredekelman4229]

Logan's Brother is Sabertooth

[@ramadeu01]

i saw the Cassie proud face of "I can stand the harsh scenes that Carly can´t". What we have done to her?

[@w1975b]

I wondered if Carly might be pregnant, since nausea can be a symptom of early pregnancy.

[@Bookconsumer]

​@@w1975bplease don't start that crap. Even if she is we have no reason to speculate and it is extremely rude to do so.

[@w1975b]

@@Bookconsumer you're the one being rude. I didn't say "she is pregnant" as if it's fact or trying to start a rumor. You're the one who needs to take a chill pill.

[@LuminairPrime]

Thank you for enjoying the X-Men movies with us! One nice thing about these X-Men movies is how they're less picky about timelines and character consistency. It's a strength and a weakness, but that's how comic books are; there are a million versions of everything. It's like a soap opera. You can enjoy things however you choose to imagine them!

[@logicplague]

Wolverine's claws: Adamantium Marvel/Captain America's shield: Vibranium There's a lot of confusion about those, mainly because of legal licensing. I think originally they were all Adamantium.

[@tearsoflight]

FYI there's an end credit

[@pmh2390]

a great movie for the two of you to react to is "Law Abiding Citizen"

[@Darkstar72SR]

You guys seem to hate this kind of ending because it isn’t a happy one. Sometimes that’s just life. And if we don’t have tragedy in our lives how will we be able to appreciate true joy when it does come around?

[@clarkmichaels822]

Also, it's a prequel. If there was a happy ending there would be no rest of the movies.

[@Lensmaster1]

I like happy endings too

[@sgtjohnson]

3:53 because of Logan’s mutation he ages very slowly (it was mentioned in the first X-Men movie)

[@nooneofconsequence1251]

Good things about this movie: 1. the opening credits sequence 2. Schreiber's performance 3. seeing Reynolds as Deadpool for the first time, even though, it's not really Deadpool... ... it's a short list

[@OneArmedRetroGamer]

You're going to be ok. The next three range from pretty good, to amazing

[@mikem1457]

You have The Wolverine in your next 3?

[@passionsquietrage]

More like the rest of the franchise is in that range.

[@OneArmedRetroGamer]

@@mikem1457 I've only seen it twice tbh but I remember it being decent

[@mikem1457]

Just my opinion, and always been up for just a movie, but... The Wolverine was gawd awful. They tried to stay PG13 but get close to the line, the CGI was bad, writing was bad. Which made Logan such a likeable movie, it knew how and where to go. First Class is amazing, they (hopefully Carly is there) are absolutely gonna love it. Having those 2 movies so close to each other, it really stood out when it theatrically released.

[@passionsquietrage]

@@mikem1457 What was bad about the writing and cgi? Should the claws have been less shiny?

[@Yootastic]

OMG when you said "hey google" my phone started listening to you!!!!! dont do that!!! stick to your siri!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@w1975b]

does Siri control house lighting?

[@tranya327]

As some others have said, Victor returns - as Sabertooth in the 'first' movie ( 'X-Men'). Victor was killed when Cyclops hit him with a strong optic blast at the end of that film. The actor playing Victor/Sabertooth was different. In the time interval between the end of this film, and the start of 'X-Men,' Victor became more hairy, more beast-like, and grew to talk less (more at an animal level). This suggests that having Logan in his life (even a little) during their first ~ 160 years of life, acted to keep Victor/Sabertooth more human and less beast-like than he would otherwise have been. •••• Deadpool DOES die during this film ( 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine'). More, the Deadpool that's in this film, seems very, very different than the version that appears in other films. (Among other things, those versions talk A LOT; This one doesn't ((can't)) speak at all). I don't know how one is supposed to reconcile these apparent contradictions. Maybe, they can't be.) •••• There are other contradictions that crop up in various films as well, involving other characters that are more central. Maybe, they can't be reconciled, either. •••• Stryker's detainment facility (for mutants) at the close of this film, is meant to be Three Mile Island - the site of a real-life nuclear plant accident in the U.S., in the late 1970s. This film's story suggests that the events we see were what 'really happened' and the 'nuclear plant accident' was a cover story to prevent normal news media and normal investigators from searching the wreckage.

[@jarrodsmith5613]

The timeline was altered when Wolverine goes back into the past in X-Men Days of Futures Past.

[@tranya327]

@@jarrodsmith5613 The altered timeline in Days of Future Past (DOFP) works to explain many events, but not the ones I’m talking about. Something important happens to Charles at the end of ‘First Class,’ which occurs in the early 1960s. DOFP occurs ten years later. DOFP doesn’t account for Charles being unaffected by that ‘First Class’ event, in ‘X-Men origins: Wolverine’ and during the flashback we saw at the start of X-Men: the last stand’. Second example: The events of ‘X-Men’ occur roughly in 2000-2001. Xavier tells Logan that Logan has been operating with no memory, for almost 15 years, which would date Logan’s Adamantium insertion procedure at 1985. But, in ‘X-Men origins: Wolverine,’ Stryker recruits Logan and Victor from the Vietnam war. U.S. participation in the war ended in 1973, when DOFP occurs. I think that movie strongly hints that Mystique impersonated Stryker at least a little, during that period. If we’re theorizing that the altered timeline in DOFP, accounts for the different versions of Deadpool, then we have a problem: I can buy that Mystique faked being Stryker for a time, during 1973. …But, how plausible is it that Mystique faked being Stryker for years, from 1973 forward, so that Mystique-as-Stryker, rather than the real Stryker, created the early mutant team that included Logan and Victor (and then created Deadpool)? Stryker was a military scientist and ran the Weapon X program. Mystique didn’t have that training and background. Do we have any evidence that when Mystique impersonates someone, that she can access that person’s memories, so that, like John Carpenter’s ‘The Thing,’ she would then know everything he knew? If not, then no one (other than Xavier) could have pulled off a years-long impersonation of Stryker, including Mystique.

[@Spidercat616]

Well, Victor and Logan could have worked with Stryker for 6 years - after which, Logan goes AWOL for 6 years by his own admission, making it 1985 when he gets the adamantium

[@tranya327]

@@Spidercat616 Fine. If so, then what is the specific event that changes the timeline in the way we’re talking about: that creates the new ‘talkative version’ of Deadpool in place of the ‘old silent’ Deadpool’? That event CANNOT BE Logan changing the past, and it also cannot be the scenario of Mystique continuing to impersonate Stryker, for years. It would had to have been something else.

[@Spidercat616]

@@tranya327 Why can't it be Logan changing the past? We clearly see Logan getting his adamantium in a very different way from Origins in X-Men Apocalypse, so the Wade Wilson of that universe may have never joined Stryker. That said, I think the Deadpool movies exist in their own separate continuity where Wade knows about the other timeliness, but isn't necessarily attached to them. That's why there are similarities to previous X-Men films (the school, the brief cameo in Deadpool 2), but also big differences - Colossus is clearly not the same person he is in most of the other X-Men films (but much more comic book accurate)

[@hellomark1]

It's probably been mentioned elsewhere in the comments, but Wolverine was introduced as a character in 1974, but it wasn't until the 90s are when it was revealed that the claws were originally made of bone after Magneto pulled all of the adamantium off of his bones, which was so mind-blowing! In fact I'm pretty sure when he was originally introduced, the claws were just part of the costume, until they changed his past.

[@DavidLender]

Just to be clear, the cinematic movies are 'loosely' based on the comics. There are definite differences between them. There was no real clear direction on the Sony X-Men movies. Different directors and writers took different elements from the comics and wove them together to suit their ends. It is unlike the MCU where things are connected.

[@jasonbeatty831]

If you liked Taylor in this, you’d absolutely LOVE him in John Carter. Massively underrated pulp sci fi movie that for some reason bombed at the box office even though it’s one of the greatest films from the 2010’s. Please give it a chance!

[@mrbaddog4749]

Only bombed, because it didn't make as much as the movie cost from the box office ( budget gross 306.6 million - box office 284.1 million ). Also back in 2009, bootlegs and illegal downloads were huge, making many movies lose money.

[@joelwillems4081]

@@mrbaddog4749 This film, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, was stolen and released online before the effects were even finished. The leak was never fully discovered but a guy who uploaded it for downloading got one year in jail. Eventually, the movie studios, like the music studios before them, figured it out is better to make money from online streaming then fight the technology. With streaming, they also don't lose as much to physical theaters. Film crickets haven't figured it out yet calling every other film a bomb because the box office totals are down and they can't read company financials.

[@tonygreenfield7820]

It also bombed due to bad marketing. It didn't help that Disney had just bought Star Wars and decided to make that their SF franchise and so didn't want their billion dollar purchase being challenged by the John Carter movies. Also they struggled due to the title. If you were not already a fan of or knew about the John Carter novels the title "John Carter" didn't tell you much. The first book was "A Princess of Mars" but the title wasn't thought likely to bring in sci fi fans. "John Carter - A Princess of Mars" was even worse 😊

[@jasonbeatty831]

@@tonygreenfield7820 a real pity too, it’s a really incredible picture. Swashbuckling, great story, very original for its time. One of the rare newer movies that I never get tired of.

[@capdebolet]

Holly cgi, Batman!

[@jediknightjairinaiki560]

Holly?

[@BizzyX78]

----- @jediknightjairinaiki560 ----- - It actually makes sense if you think about it... It's a play on words. -----

[@RedCaio]

I love how they never work out that Victor is Sabertooth lol.

[@kristopherbarr6061]

Deadpool in a way is a spoof - they made that movie to give some justice to a great character who did not get the credit he deserved - deadpool & Wolverine will include characters from the old movies

[@kimothy1701]

When they built the Fred “Blob” Dukes suit it was so heavy no one could barely lift it. When they put it on Kevin Durand he was dancing around in it, as you can see when he’s fighting Logan in the boxing ring, like it weighed nothing.