X-Plane 11 - GPS Approach

Learn how to fly a GPS (LPV) Approach using the Garmin 530.

[@waynesweet8275]

BTW as a 4000 hour flight instructor, never put the flaps down when the airspeed is above the white arc on the airspeed indicator. That's what the white arc indicates; flap operating speed..

[@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261]

when he said "we're at 1000ft" he was actually at 250ft right? and is 90kts way too fast in the 172? i thought 60-70 would be more like it. thanks

[@AssyrianKing4ever]

@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 He meant 1000 ft MSL (Mean Sea Level) at his call out. When he was on the ground the altimeter reading was 750ft MSL which means when he called out 1000ft, he was at 250ft AGL (Above Ground Level). Approach airspeed for a precision/non-precision approach is 90kts. Non-Precision approach power setting: RPM roughly at 1600 RPM and 750 FPM descent rate. Landing airspeed is 60-70kts in a 172.

[@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261]

@@AssyrianKing4ever Are you sure? All the lessons (real life CFIs as well as some x plane vids) i've seen have an approach at about 65-70kts at most, then idle power above runway and land at stall speed (45kts or so, depending on weight/flaps). 90 is very fast and landing at 70 too fast. It seems odd to call out 1000MSL and not AGL e.g. if the runway is 2000MSL why would you call 1000MSL?

[@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261]

@@AssyrianKing4ever yeah a little check and you're a bit off with your numbers. 70kts is a standard and widely quoted approach speed, touch down ranges 55kts down to 45kts on average. altitude callouts should be made with reference to ground level, so you would call 1000AGL and definitely not MSL (as i pointed out, MSL makes no sense for landing phase). So the approach in this video seems a bit off, it did seem way too fast...

[@AssyrianKing4ever]

​@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 I gotta correct myself there, normal approach airspeed is 60-70kts. In real flight, we cut the power to idle close to the runway threshold and depending on the winds adjust with the throttle. Here is why I said 90kts for the approach airspeed. GPS approach is a non-precision so when in IMC with low ceilings you wanna keep your airspeed at 90kts down to your minimums so you can execute the missed approach. If you break out before your minimums, great. Also, as far as callouts go, I was taught 1000 above mins, 100 above, and Minimums. He may not have had any IFR training.

[@davidbrown7307]

For anyone asking why this doesn’t work on the newer version, you have to set the auto pilot to NAV, APR, and GS and it will guide you in both horizontally and vertically. I usually only put it on APR GS when I’m on the final approach.

[@pbsflightsimulationpatrick6286]

I wasn’t sure about „Vectors“. Now I know it and have to thank you very much. You did a great job.

[@kriskeech5253]

Thanks! Great amount of info, as I was having a rough time learing the GPS. I Could select where I was going but no vectors to land. You were a great help.

[@ivanfojan8859]

This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for. I've been flying to radio ils only so knowing this will make a huge difference to me :))

[@allaboutstatus]

Great tutorial. I always admire those that do tutorials.

[@vamac53]

jason, good videos. is there a hotkey to turn off autopilot like fsx? and how change altitude without using vsi knob?

[@LowOnCash]

Absolute perfect Lesson on using the GPS for approach - clear and Precise! thanks so much Mike

[@bran756]

Hi thanks Jason,I am a slow learner but your teaching is cool,you don't talk like a auctioneer,and I am actually learning at a faster rate,cheers mate.

[@GKeithParish]

Thanks. This worked as advertised and I’m glad that I finally found an easy solution to flying approaches and landings using GPS.

[@FordyHunt]

Very clear and concise tutorial, much better than some much longer ones!

[@heenchiidesu3581]

I love your tutorial.. There is a detailed explanation in the last video, making me very understand ..

[@paulguaglardi9693]

Great tutorial regarding the use of the system. I'm always learning from your videos.

[@crazykosmikbunny]

Wow your videos are awesome, simple and in-depth explanation. Thank you.

[@3Dprint4you]

Thanks for the video Jason. I think I'm finally going to give xplane a try.

[@MrNICAULISES]

Excellent!!! Learned two things I was doing wrong. Not selecting vectors and activating the approach to soon Lol.... Thank you for the great video ✈️✈️

[@arthurbrown7501]

That was great Jason, easy to follow and got me up and running. Thank you.

[@aikidoshi007]

That was great thanks, particularly the little recap at the end, many thanks!

[@carlatteniese2]

Dude. You are a GREAT teacher--probably the best flight teacher I have seen. Thank you for this.

[@CrayCraigie]

Except for the broken flaps, nose gear damage, and added wear and tear in the engine from high RPM.

[@scooter2329]

Stumbled across this video after getting sucked into the "You Tube Vortex". Thank you so much. It has enlightened me...

[@rorypullman]

You brokeded the flaps

[@darengardner6219]

Yep he did

[@MattRomero]

FYI all, the current version of Xplane there are a couple of steps that are not shown I think. Like GPS steering, and using heading bug when you hit approach in GPS etc. I will create a video this week consolidating a few tutorials including this one (which is great) for knowledge transfer.

[@Ansalsan]

Great tutorial. Excellent, thank you. Antonio from Brazil.

[@brunoadank6308]

...great.....thanks, is very helpful....Bruno from Switzerland

[@knuddel5116]

Can you please make a tutorial of the ils approach function of the nav. I dont know, how it works.

[@gurindergrewal772]

Thanks for posting this video. Very informative for me.

[@flyingbatfish]

Again, great job and couple of points for safety: using ground speed as a reference on approach can kill you. Always use IAS, indicated airspeed. As a personal habit, I like to disengage the autopilot a little higher. Taking your eyes off the approach that close to the ground and possibly pushing the wrong button could be trouble.

[@PedroPepeDk]

Thank you, enjoyed your tutorial !

[@Alan_Edwards]

After trying this a few times I could not get my plane to connect with the glide slope and auto descend. I tried a few approach options messing with altitude and speed but could not get it to work Then I read the S-TEC 55 AP Manual. It appears you need to hit the Alt button a second time to engage the GS. Not sure if it's due to an older version of the Auto Pilot or me not doing something right, but it's working now. Great video. Very informative. I do suggest everyone read through the manuals under the Cessna 172SP folder. I found some other nice tidbits of information in the Garmin G530 manual as well. AE

[@kiran.angggg1453]

So press ALT twice on the autopilot menu?

[@MarcelHuguenin]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@jamesrothwell8693]

Excellent, thank you. That makes it a lot easier to understand.

[@justin-we1bv]

Do I need to be below the glide slope in order for the auto pilot approach to work? Like do I have to intersect the glide slope?

[@yarsokol03]

To activate approch you can also press procedures batton and set the "activate approch" to activet it.

[@rackum44]

You have really smooth frames and nice scenery, can you do a video on your settings?

[@claybwagner]

Amazing video. Us noobs appreciate these videos!

[@mahakad]

Thank you for the tutorial! QUESTION: As soon as I hit APR button, it starts flying towards HEADING even if there is no HDG button pressed. On display it says NAV APR GS?

[@gscottfuller]

Helpful video, thanks for this and other X-Plane videos you've done!. Just after you activated the APProach button on the autopilot, you went to an extended exterior view. We missed the critical point at which the GPS and AP captured the glide path and the plane started descending. I have had a lot of trouble getting that to happen with this LPV approach. Very frustrating. I've read the S-Tec manual and tried repeated attempts to get vertical guidance using the APP or even the ALT pressed twice. Neither work. If anyone has any thoughts, please comment. Thanks.

[@letsseeif]

C172:- Use 65 knots as recommended approach speed for full flap (90kts is Maximum for 15 degrees or less if possible; ie. never apply f15 over 90kts) & once over runway, slowly lift nose to burn off speed trying to keep aircraft just above runway but level then very slow sink from say 20 feet (but don't balloon) letting the aircraft sink nose up until ground contract ideally as stall warning screech begins. Flapless approaches at about 80kts in heavy crosswind only, then kick rudder opposed to wind to stop weathercocking & wing low aileron into wind to keep wind side wing down. [Actual Pilot]. :-)

[@svtpete83]

In an R or S model 172 you can deploy 10 degrees of flaps at 105. 85 for 20 and 30. I don’t think flaps 15 degrees are an option...

[@letsseeif]

@@svtpete83 . Thanks. yes. So long ago now. in the nineteen sixties and early seventies when I did most of my C172 c182, c150, C210 flying, I did lots of 'for fun' night circuits at a very dark rural grass aerodrome north of Melbourne (4 million then)Vic Australia. Although not too far out of this big city, take offs & landings into the north were usually 'black' as they faced a 3 thousand foot mountain a few miles ahead, whereas going south the city lights seemed extreme. I recall, one thing in circuits was on passing the runway threshold whilst going downwing, was to immediately turn base & on 172s, pull off power, applying pitot heat whilst trimming so a glide at 60 knots as those oldies (nearly new planes then) allowed 40 degree flaps. the entire approach was at 60kts with a bit of judicious power at times. One memorable night, the guy in fromt of me was flying a C150, & as I turned final & called 'called final' the 'speaker' squealed as the C150 ahead called 'MAYDAY' at the same time! He ended up on the boundary road with no more than a bent nosewheel & a cut leg (due to hasyy exit). The C150's engine was so small, that the carby heat 'blanket' failed and iced up due to the long glide on a cool night. it made history, as every C150 on earth was subsequently modified to alleviate this problem. But, yeah. I loved the 40degrees on the C172 because a good pilot could land in a very short distance. i heard that Cessna went to 30degrees to save law suits from 'newbie' pilots & others who Cessna felt couldn't handle 'flaps 40'. You have to remember that the GA fleet of lighties was then being marketed as a car alternative, (laugh) so an absence to head sets! I'm nearly deaf as a result.

[@williamleadbetter9686]

@@letsseeif also this X-plane 11 fellow is too high and fast on final.Folks do themselves a HUGE favor by learning to hand fly land taildraggers 1st,then switch to Tri-gears. I got some time on cubs , champs, and citabria. Next is the Pitts. I'm looking forward to that

[@letsseeif]

@@williamleadbetter9686. You're right as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Melbourne (Vic0 Aussie and learnt @ 17yo in1957 on on DH-82 Tiger Moth biplanes. Also did lots on DHC Chipmunks and Austers. ALL were tail wheel (or skid) and the art of good three pointers was invaluable. Usual approach (full glide with Handley Page leading edge slats (top staggered forward wing) was 58 knots, but we were also taught "Precautionary Approaches" at 45knots indicated - long low almost flat approaches for short fields (Tiger Moths had NO BRAKES). Rather 'nose up', these were power on until over threshold at which point just above the surface, one cut the throttle & it sunk onto the grass (they had no tail wheel, just a directional skid). 'Ag Pilots' & people like me used this technique on v short fields. After the Tiger, Chipmunks were LOOXURY 'cos they had tail wheels & differential brakes for stops & steering. I noted then that airlines pilots routinely did three pointers in DC3's, up through DC6B's & other big planes as a lower airframe stress landing. (except as in Tiger Moths, a (level) wheel landing (ie. level) (not 3 pointer) were the go in heavy wind with airliners. I note that all rebuilt old airliners routinely do "fly on level" these days, maybe because pilots never learnt 3 pointers, but probably not to damage someone's pride & joy. :-)

[@lavag2]

yes, 61-65kt. It was a nice tutorial film. But landing speed was odd. Pass threshold at 86 and touchdown at 76... That is high speed. It should bounch or something. I will ignore that part because approach was the topic at hand

[@broadwayblues]

I appreciate the video!

[@tubeztoonz]

Thanks for this. Easy to follow!

[@leroneq882]

Great tutorial, very informative.

[@PowerAirSimulations]

Hi Jason, I have a question about using the default atc or even 124th atc and the Garmin 530. all of the videos i see, i see them open up the atc put a few way points in then start the flight with ATC guiding them all the way. But i have yet to see a video of someone using a Cessna with a garmin 530 and having them use the GPS for the flight plan that they put in. Is there a video like that out there? can some one explain to me?

[@bobbyjohnson1884]

Great video easy to follow thank you .

[@par5eagles975]

excellent work, thanks!

[@zachvine8458]

How exactly do you know when you're close enough to turn on the approach button?

[@rbsims6376]

Question: Can you use the default ATC plus GPS approach together? ATC might come in handy if you're at an un-familiar airport and have to taxi...Just asking...Thanks for all the great tutorials...

[@ZOOBOODOOful]

super helpful my man!

[@steve1000017]

Hi Jason, great tutorial. I am new to xplane and have tried to follow what you do on screen, but my plane misses the way point. Any idea what l may be doing wrong?

[@scottskinner577]

Ive tried Vectors to Final several times now from KDFW to KDAL just as a warmup. The first leg, instead of going to wp Myles, it flies away from it bearing 313. Only way I can go toward the wp and DAL is to hit REV on my autopilot. Got to be a simple mistake im making somewhere.

[@aikidoshi007]

Hi again, I've done that a few times now, works fine, but if I try the same plan but instead of choosing vectors I choose the ILS approach via BOWEN I find that when it starts the turn at BOWEN the GPS keeps turning itself off and the plane heads off in some random direction. Any ideas what I need to do (or not do) to stop it please? Many thanks, Steve

[@MattRomero]

Really awesome tutorial! Im starting to learn again GPS and ILS approaches and nav and you're videos are a god send!!

[@qijun8859]

i used s-tec 55 to approach, when I clicked twice on ALT, GS appeared, however, the plane didn't descend at all. do you know why? Thank you!

[@billyjay4672]

Hi Jason just came across your site and I would like to ask as a complete novice what I really need to start flying thanks in advance for any help from you.

[@davidbandini3484]

thanks for the video, I have one question....the 'flight' is from KARR to KDPA,it isn't? sorry but I'm relly beginner

[@TheRangerDale]

Jason I been following this video to get me 530 to follow thru what you did , step by step . I guess I should ask being I see this video back in 2017 , and my XPlane11 is 11.40 , which maybe 530 now does not follow these steps ? Is this true?? Dale

[@tnield9727]

Is vertical speed managed by this at all? Or just the lateral movement?

[@ericc7936]

i don't get something .. at 4:05 you say that the GPS is activated but it was already on at the start of the vid. does one enter Alt for 1100 ft in the ap panel? please clarify i would appreciate it. Thanks if some one can help.

[@lalawyer11]

How does the approach selection tie in with ATC instructions?

[@ericc7936]

when selecting approach i guess waypoints are added; is that correct?

how did you activated the gps ?

[@Rpvmpg]

Jason, I need to use the GPS steering to track the Approach. Also, when I am on final and push in the APR button the plane veers off course. All is good up to that point. What am I doing wrong that causes the plane to go off course? Thank you, Ray

[@paoloMG58]

As usual, Jason in a very good teacher, I believe the best for virtual air navigation! In this case I have not been able to replicate the video because when I reach the last leg and I push APR, the plane turns unexpectedly on the right and lose definitely the right route to the final approach. I know the video is using an old version of autopilot, but I have have not been able to do the same with the new current version. Did someone do it?

[@soulnickos2245]

4:00 how did you activate the gps?

[@clayclatur6138]

Another wonderful lesson but there is a problem. In using the updated X-Plane auto pilot this procedure does not work. If GPS is on and the NAV on AP is set, the plane seems to want to head in the approach direction as soon as it starts on the runway, and then runs away. I have tried various other options and cannot get the approach vector to work, It does not head for the target airport. Clearly there is some different way with the new auto pilot and I have not been able to figure it out. Hoping Jason can help.

[@toddkalyniuk]

I had the same problem. I think that you need to activate KDPA when you take off, engage GPS at an appropriate height, then activate the approach leg. Then it navigates correctly.

[@kylethacker1037]

And also, if I am going to load it, when should I activate the approach?

[@JetStreamDream]

Thank you so much man...!

[@murattekir5899]

When will I activate approach on GPS? I dont mean the APR button, but the Activate Approach selection for the GPS. Thanks.

[@DavidJohnson-yy4de]

Please make an updated one!

[@flyingwithsafvan3186]

How will this work in vatsim For example I told them I am doing a ifr flight to EGKK From EGSS letd day they tell me active runway is 26l so do I just put in the 22r vectors approach and continue

[@waynesweet8275]

So the approach is Activated by clicking the APR on the autopilot and not using the GPS Menu button and selecting Activate?

[@MrNight-dg1ug]

When I enter the 3rd person view and move around, my autopilot disconnects and my phone isn't calibrated, and can't be pitched down in the ground.

[@AlexandreRaymundo71]

Dear Jason, at 4:00min you activated your GPS using a button from your joystick, could you explain how you mapped this function to the specific joystick button? What is the function called? Thank you!

[@tyler_glasgow]

I follow your instructions exactly, yet on autopilot my plane literally flies the opposite direction of the waypoint which is activated. Any idea why this happens? I'm using a demo but I don't think that should matter. Thanks.

[@mikeodiorne8414]

Kind of late in the game for X Plane (version .40 here) but what exactly are you clicking on (I hear an audible click in the video but dont see you move your cursor) to "Activate" the gps for the approach. Sorry if its a silly question, but I just cant seem to get the 530 to set up for my approach. Im flying into KAUS from KEDC. Its only about 13nm's.

[@davidhendriksen]

Hi Jason, @11:40, the "VS" on your Autopilot isn't activated anymore. Did you turn this off or did the plan this by itself because of the approach button that's turned on? When I try this, only lateral navigation works. On the CDI instrument, only the vertical is moving. The horizontal needle is always centered. It looks like there is no vertical "assist". What could be the reason for this? I can see the glideslope on the map for the runway I'm landing on and position of my Cessna.

[@lpappas474]

One recommendation I would make is for you to land the plane as close as possible to the stall speed. Your main mounts should touchdown before the nose wheel, and try to keep the nose wheel of the runway for as long as possible. Let aerodynamics lower the nose wheel and not by relaxing (yoke or stick control going forward) the elevator control.

[@galoon]

Yep, I think he might have bent the firewall and/or broken the nose gear had that been a real-life landing!

[@lpappas474]

@@galoon Most of these people have never heard about the types of landing accidents caused by strong cross winds and excessively hight touch down speeds as the pilots tries to force the aircraft onto the ground. Here is a good video (second landing) on a pilot porpoising down the runway in a Piper Cherokee 140 that rips of the nose wheel. .

[@salomon3343]

Great presentation .just in real life flaps are extended withing the white line of the airspeed indicator. To prevent flaps structural damage. Could cause a spin. But great tutorial.

[@wernermampaey5025]

verry nice video i am a beginner from belgium in europe. it is not simple

[@Bobmama1]

I got a question if anyone knows please, how do I know how much altitude i should ascend or descend? Will the GPS tell me?

[@jayhegame3230]

Great! So if I follow these steps, but don't hit AP (I'd like to hand fly it), I will still course guidance from CDI when flying the RNAV?

[@christophermichaelson9050]

Yes

[@samueljpower]

What button did you press at 4:01 to activate the GPS?

[@ramibrill6479]

Very helpful. Thx!

[@sturisa]

Hey Jason, why not just activate the approach when ready instead of activating the leg?

[@fergomez7413]

Hi Jason. Can't get the APR to operate as described in your video. Following instructions to the letter. Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong, please? When I press APR the plane heads away from the correct path. Thank you very much.

[@mikavanraamsdonk2933]

How do i know at wich waypoint i need to set the apr.

[@casq882]

At the time that I turn of the autopilot, my trim makes my plane to stall, so you know how can I configure that? I use Saitek multipanel AP together with the simulator AP .Thank you

[@briankramer9690]

That one initially threw me for a loop as well. I eventually realized he was using the "old style" autopilot that had the AP button. So I'm guessing he set the NAV and V/S, but waited until he was at altitude before activating by hitting AP.

[@Kreemerz]

when you say, "time to slow the plane down", are you pulling back on the throttle to do this?

[@RPSchonherr]

No he's not and what he did if in a real plane would have damaged the flaps. He extended them above the Ne speed for Fe. 85 kts is the maximum Fe speed.

[@rolfbauer8700]

How did you activate the GPS after takeoff?

[@SimbaC2007]

4:20 my ears broke

[@RobisonRacing68]

Thanks! That helped... :)

[@jannissen4382]

nice tutorial thanks.

[@AquaStevae]

Hey, nice vids. I have watched a few of yours now. I think you do a good job, but there's one thing wrong in this vid. Man, you don't lower flaps at that speed, or you will do structural damage to the aircraft. And in the new XP11, you can actually tear them off of the aircraft. I would suggest looking at the section on speeds of the aircraft, which goes over all of the archs and colors of the speed indicator instrument. Other than that nice vid.

[@karimtebbakh2432]

Merci beaucoup my friend ....appreciated sir

[@kylethacker1037]

At the beginning when you immediately activated your approach because it was only 0.3 nm away from your last way point. What would you say is the max nm before you would load it in rather than immediately activate it?

[@davidcloudninerorg6635]

ATIS or Approach control will tell you the active runway or by listening to radios. In the real world you would not load GPS/ILS approach until you know winds and which runways are in use. You can also request an approach sometimes, for sure on Pilotedge. I use NAV or HDG button to get within range of 20-30 deg intercept and below Glideslope. Being outside of reasonable intercept angles and altitudes can confuse a GPS. They often will try to intecept the next leg etc. and miss GS entirely. Pull up the free approach plate at SkyVector. Hope this helps. Good Luck!

[@samuelpavez5736]

At least I find something that helps me to landingnin ILS mode, thank you

[@jantieland7479]

Hallo. I just bought XPLANE 11 and my question is ; is there someware an using manual for keyboard and Saitek yoke and CH Trottle Auadrant? I am from The Netherlands and maybe my English is not so good. Thanks. Greating Jan.

[@fieryblade]

Look for the manuals in the inthernet . There are a lot of manuals at developers' , and producers' websites.

[@johnsturdevant8786]

Recap was very useful

[@Diga6ft]

Thanks f you great videos, but I could not find the video where you enter a complete flight plan. New to X Plane 11 but used FXS for long time about 100 hours.

[@JasonVriends]

Have a look at this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/naTEamqKma18nqM

[@DDD21.]

Very good tutorial Sir

[@tjohara947]

Thank you for this tutorial. It is very helpful. I did try to follow along and things went well. But I noticed my plane followed the GS correctly but stayed a bit to the right of the Localizer needle. Yours were perfect. I tried approaches at different locations but the plane always stayed right of the Localizer. I generally take over and land manually when I am close in. Is there something I am doing wrong or do I need to make some adjustments to my instruments/settings? Thanks

[@mr.martintorres5804]

Set the Heading Bug to the same number as the runway number you're approaching. When the approach button is pressed you can make small tweaks to the runway center through incremental adjustments. Also ensure you have set NAV1 to the ILS frequency of the runway. Even small deviations to a frequency setting can throw you off. Worked for me, but have not tried this with Jason's GPS approach, only in an straight ILS approach. Good luck.

[@matteobenedettomanini598]

@@mr.martintorres5804 hi, did you eventually try with GPS approach? Does the heading bug adjustment work also for that?

[@mr.martintorres5804]

Matteo Benedetto Manini Yes GPS approach works. I believe the autopilot just works differently than it does in Jason’s tutorial here. Moving the heading bug to the approach course heading does the trick.

[@dereksmith3382]

I tried and it goes the absolute direct opposite way it should go

[@ossasdr3319]

Probably because you need to put the heading bug onto the runway direction of 020.