WELL DESERVED CLASSIC WOW BANS | Xaryu Reacts

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[@Xaryu]

MAKE SURE TO THROW A LIKE TO SAVIX ▶ kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqmXpquheJumb5Y&

[@cedricbechel8863]

i mean to be honest is a actually Joke that players get bannd for griefing in a not even existing official addon. But on wrath classic that 100ert of people can cheat in arena with ahk rotation bots to get r1 glad and get 0 punishment. But thats just the state on WoW 2023 im so happy that i never play it, maybe till classic + :D

[@hibob2903]

Is that avenue to Blizzard through your talent agency or do you just chat to them directly? I am just curious the mechanics of you avenue to Blizzard.

[@cedricbechel8863]

@@hibob2903 blizzard don’t care about pvp is simpel as that but is hilarious to see that they Bann griefers for a addon that not even exist. And don’t fix there own game 😅is just fact

[@hibob2903]

@@cedricbechel8863 That is really not that interesting. What I find more interesting is how all the big streamers are not grass roots but put there by A talent agency and promoted artificially by twitch.

[@Krannski]

@@hibob2903 Cope harder, kiddies

[@MrCodyack]

Savix is a god damn hero dude. Thanks for shouting him out Xaryu!

[@pur9lehat18]

McConnell coming in and genuinely belly laughing at how bad that dude is just off 10 seconds of clicking his buttons was actually the best part of this video 😂

[@sebastianwhatever4182]

mcconell is cancer. yikes

[@alvindriffield3462]

He wasn't belly laughing squealing when Xaryu killed him

[@tocadiscox3]

Savix is what this community needs.

[@bengixd]

This comment was a little cringe

[@eyeopening618]

He isn't wrong tho. Savix did what was right and they deserve it. Every action has a reaction. It's really simple.

[@cole9058]

​@@bengixdnah, it's really not.

[@Ahle85]

​@@bengixdsaying cringe is cringe ..stop it Kid plz.

[@bengixd]

@@Ahle85 cope

[@Siegmeyer23]

Ironically I think the griefers' fear of intimacy and male affection makes Xaryu's comments much more terrifying to them than Savix's return insults.

[@jennifercarbery227]

YES

[@Stophe_]

i cant imagine not feeling guilty after being a complete asshole then a stranger shows me love and empathy in return.

[@jeremy_duck]

You know - I've watched Xar for a long time and it took me all this time to figure out how genuinely nice he is - It takes a lot, A LOT to feel empathy for someone like that guy in discord after the things he said (He said so much more bad stuff after xar skipped) and to genuinely say that "What we can all do is show some love to this man because clearly he is very very unhappy and sad" is really sad and shows a bunch to Xar's Character - because yes, you don't say the things that man says without having some pain, hurt, sorrow in your life and while I cannot empathize on the same level of xar here about the dude I can definitely understand that the discord guy needs some actual help. It's sad.

[@jeremy_duck]

But also to Xar's point of people regretting the things they said when they were growing up (which is 1000% true) the dude sounds 25+ and should already understand that what he said (even if it came from a place of sorrow and pain) is completely unacceptable.

[@gaddag1477]

@@jeremy_ducksome of those guys are 35 +

[@jeremy_duck]

@@gaddag1477 easily I was just going with the safe option

[@ChairmanMeow1]

Yea I never really watched Xaryu much before but Ive started watching him quite a bit lately. I really like his attitude. He reminds me of Reckful a lot and thats like the best compliment I can give a streamer.

[@jeremy_duck]

@@ChairmanMeow1 man i miss reckful his streams were so chill

[@eadric3338]

It's one thing to be at a low point in your life - depression is a real thing many of us struggle with. It's another thing entirely to engage in sadistic, sociopathic behavior online because you think there will be zero consequences as you get your twisted laughs.

[@bigybop]

Unless this man literally has neuroglial psychopathy the ONLY things to drive someone to say things like that are..... the stuff you just described in the first half of your sentence... You're just naive if you think otherwise. Comments like "Man he's probably 30! He should know better! Unacceptable!" are so stupid. Like wtf there is an age limit on having an absolute awful life? Get real people

[@mtv9299]

@@bigybop im glad you took the time to tell us that we need to "get real", whos the issue again?

[@Slik-Rik-V]

Nah bro, that dude is sick. I actually know him and he has bipolar disorder and has a long history of mental illness. Just because someone says something shocking doesn’t mean they’re sociopathic; that disorder is rare. Xar is correct, he’s sick right now just ill

[@JonnyOgg]

really respect Savix for this, Toxicity is a cancer to the gaming community and manifests in many ways, Sav seems to understand that and is able to see where he can combat it

[@zStC1]

Bro it's a game. It's a game that wasn't built for what YOU chose to use it for.. then yall cry when other people choose to play it a different way. This generation is sorry.

[@DonnyDeleto]

@@zStC1 wait for what was it built?

[@aronszilagyi6571]

@@zStC1 ever heard of one expressing their freedom only to a point of not harming others? He wants to pvp? Play on pvp realm where everyone signed up for it. There’s no reasonably acceptable explanation for griefer behavior however you put it or regardless how much you twist things around with explanation. Bullying is not cool

[@kuivia]

@@aronszilagyi6571 People keep saying "it's a game" as some sort of defence and are basically saying cyber bullying isn't real because it's on the internet🤣🤣 it's impossible to argue with those pro-griefers mindsets they don't seem to understand

[@soulessification]

@@zStC1 Bro hows it feel to have 1 brain cell.

[@sc-mh3jj]

I listened to the full discord chat on Savix's video. Absolutely unbelievable to hear adult men speak like that. I agree Xaryu, it's hard to not feel pity for them and I hope they get the help they desperately need

[@gardenwarrior5524]

no, you didn't, you watched a short clip. voivid isn't even one of the griefers and i watched the whole stream. he's cool with kargoz and parla and is the first and only person to level a hardcore warrior with no armor or weapons to 60.

[@Fantasyremix]

They're the malevolent version of no-lifers but they're no-lifers just the same.

[@indicaflower5996]

​​@@Fantasyremix bro no lifers definitions is litterly playing HC wow LOL

[@RubberTag]

They need love! I fully agree with him!

[@TH-dg2mm]

One of the scariest things about the internet is that empowers small groups of people like this. One griefer finds 20 other griefers to celebrate griefing with (while joking about killing people IRL) and suddenly the behaviour is normalized for them. Now they're even more motivated to continue their behaviour...

[@ShutThePuck]

One of them even bragged about regularly beating up his wife... I hope someone looks into whether those claims were true or not, it's one thing to grief online but abusing your wife is next level, actual psycho

[@ZarisWhiteFoot]

If the dudes married that's a big L for the world

[@critical3337]

The person who talked about beating his wife, was once part of the community, He made it to 60 without any clothes on a warrior, Unfortunately he's fallen to the darkside.

[@mrloqqe1610]

@@ZarisWhiteFoot nah i doubt it. the guy is full of shit, probably trying to trigger people with this stuff. he knows everyone gets mad angry over men that beat up women.

[@eksommen88]

swat him

[@Schandri]

savix has death in his eyes the whole video, and i like it

[@andrewoliver1627]

My lvl 31 warrior got griefed in Hillsbrad as well by a 60 hunter on EU. I really appreciate all the admins working on the appeals as I was recording and got my character back. They the real mvps and the reason im enjoying myself so much Playing hardcore wow. I'm working and and 30 I don't have time to keep deleting characters because of a giref.

[@198sambrrs]

I'm not a sensitive person in any way, and it takes a lot to make me feel genuinely revolted, but that discord convo absolutely made me sick to hear. I don't understand how you get to that age and still conduct yourself that way. These little guys are the kind that should be on irl watchlists, major violent incel energy and we know how that can end. I appreciate your compassion Xar, but I just can't find any for those people

[@malumick]

Xaryu and Savix both making the community a better place, love it! Laughed a lot in this one.

[@neopa06]

Xaryu reacting to Savix's punchline like he was in high school xD

[@jacobadams6277]

Xaryu saying to show the griefer some love is more of a burn than savix insulting him lmao

[@fabriceclement6587]

I think I’m in love with this man. Hopefully griefer issues will find a conclusion some day.

[@lucafrix66]

Nah Sav is going deservedly hard. As someone who has struggled with mental health my entire life. I do agree with your statement about they are at their lowest point, but that doesn't excuse being a trash human.

[@tsurutom]

It's not about excuses, just explanations, and reasonable ways to solve the problem. You can see the cases where people at their lowest point get shit on even more, to the point of them becoming violent. To then argue that they still "deserved" to get shit on merely shows your own ego.

[@gagewilson9394]

it can be considered that them griefing is a form of mental abuse to some people they love to dish it out and have to be able to take it. wow to alot of people is a form of escape from the real world and this bullying is harmful proud of savix calling it out

[@lucafrix66]

@@gagewilson9394 considering their conversation that Xar skipped, which I don't blame him for doing. It was hard to stomach. I can't disagree with that.

[@Bubajumba]

@@tsurutom This guy didn't become a dick after getting low in life, he is low in life because he's always been a dick. Not the other way around. I do in general agree with you that we should be careful but this guy is obviously that kid who was the most obnoxious in school, is the most obnoxious at this age and later in life he's gonna be the most obnoxious guy in the bar

[@emmanuelhoule8070]

-Trying to make others look like fools. -Proceed to fail at clicking a gouge. -Painful

[@murrmurr765]

The compassion this streamer guy shows makes me want to caress his samurai hair and tell him he is doing alright.

[@kuivia]

I fucking loved seeing Savix being a chad against toxic asshole griefers it's so satisfying

[@miafiolekova5817]

Xaryu is is that kind of guy, that I would be proud to call a friend.

[@Cervicalribs]

When I grow up I want to be a real man like Xaryu.

[@KingJerbear]

The thing people are overlooking is that even without appeals, all these terrible griefers would be long dead before they hit 60. How many clips have we seen where they choke while trying to kite a mob and die... their character would be dead. So while I think it's a good idea for Blizzard to implement further ways to combat the griefing on official servers, the general rule of losing your character when you die will weed out 99% of it as seen by how terrible these guys actually are at the game.

[@eyeopening618]

While clicking like complete noobs. No wonder they are mad, they are terrible at the game.

[@Hitmaster8]

This has been true for as long as wow has existed: nobody that is able to compete with max level characters in a fair PvP goes to a low lvl zone to kill/grief low lvl characters. There has been a time when I used to entertain myself by going after these griefers and every single one of them was absolute trash. Usually ran like rats when they noticed Im same lvl as them and when they didnt, they suffered a quick and embarassing death, often despite having a numerical advantage vs me (easiest 1vXs of my life tbh).

[@erikkarlsson6839]

Savix what a chad

[@briangervais5962]

Honestly, the "percentage of men who want to watch the world burn" are part of the ecosystem and they generate content and interest. Them getting banned is also part of this holistic system that mirrors life.

[@Lordveine]

If i start my morning with Greifing its just to know an ally logget out and probably just wiped until he had to go to work XD it makes me smile

[@ManWithoutThePants]

I personally think the appeal rules are needed, because wow wasn't designed for hardcore in mind so some additional things were needed to put in place by addon developer to get griefing deaths and DCs for example appealable.

[@leechking2476]

That doesn’t make sense

[@grawss]

A death is a death, absolutely and obviously. Many people delete even for an appealable death, and 100% of people playing understand that deaths from DCs and griefers are exceptions to death=delete, but they're still deaths. Exceptions are necessary until Blizzard takes action, since at this point the community has done everything else in its power to fix the other issues/limits and advance the state of play to this point (which is pretty amazing imo). I only bring this up because you're more likely to get results from blizzard if the community as a whole feels frustrated at not being able to say honestly that death=delete, as opposed to justifying it or defending the appeals process as being necessary just because that's the way things are.

[@RaimaNd]

If someone griefs once, shame by me, if someone griefes twice, he should be perma banned, not just 30 days. Simple as that.

[@Moldylocks]

Who is really surprised that the griefers avoid PvP-servers mainly because on PvP-servers people can fight back, and they can't even win a duel as level 19 vs lvl 11s in an open-world combat environment.

[@kuivia]

haha yerp, that's the same way with all these people who are as pathetic as that discord server they go online to pick on people who are unable to fight back :/ sad sad people man

[@geridos3541]

Bro big love and amazing to see your empathy levels

[@dslight113]

i fell from a double bed , on a pile of Lego's once , i still have the scars from it, those things are evil when not properly cleaned up after use man.

[@bubonicshade2300]

I'm not 100% on this but if you ever played on RetroWoW before classic was released back in 2019 I'm pretty sure YOU taught me how to play a mage on there. Sincerely Porksword/Fleshjavelin from RetroWoW! Glad to see you on Hardcore and providing amazing content!

[@andrejcerveny5173]

That clicking part really got me.

[@KevinGachot]

Savix is an IRL Rétribution Paladin! SAVIX THE LIGTH BRINGER

[@socie01]

Savix GIGACHAD! Petition to gm-drop em all into the maelstrom in the centre of the map

[@PhantomLAM]

lmfao the clicking kills me, especially Gouge being on number 4 and he still can't even press 4, dude must have some microscopic hands.

[@nathanjones5337]

I witnessed that guy gathering up all the kolbolt miners and deagros them and its just a horde of miners like 20 of them running threw the cave

[@ole5837]

2 good fixes could be: 1) No proxemity aggro 2) Toggle pvp on not just attack someone who is pvp flagged

[@haqu123321]

Ye, completely remove proximity aggro, also mobs who leave their natural area will simply walk back to it when out of combat, not lash out on the nearest person. this alone will fix so much grief potential

[@StocksNShares]

I would not grief myself, but hardcore spirit is that you know at some point you are going down. Its about the achievement of how far you get. Anything in the game goes. Even if it is unfair or unfortunate. As that is the achievement.

[@Brumbrumauto]

God your such a good man Xaryu, u have such a great heart its beautiful to hear what u just said especially about such a hostile person. Maybe he feels like shit really and thats why he sabotages others instead of building sth up together (or alone but not destroying thing)...

[@degenwow]

this is the best moment in fact, seeing someone who bullies others , thinking he is such a chad, to community and blizzard looking at them with clear sign they're complete losers.

[@SteveC86]

Super funny to see the chat, feels like about 10 people who don’t even play HC deciding that a ban appeal isn’t in the spirit of HC

[@conquery]

lets be honest only ppl getting banned will be those who grief streamers. The overwhelming majority (non streamers) will get absolutely nothing done about it and you will just have to suck it up. This is the main reason i won't even attempt playing a hardcore mode.

[@peppermint3808]

TRUE, Xaryu literally has 0 understanding that blizzard is literally saving their cash cows and NOT CARING about the playerbase, because wait where can THE PLAYERBASE report them? OH WAIT A MINUTE WE CANT!

[@feesh3096]

That Gotic guy has some serious mental health issues and needs a perma ban from both Discord and Blizzard services...

[@noaboa5670]

Xar got that Damian Wayne look going on right now

[@XcSNIPERcX]

Hardcore Classic players would faint when they found out Hardcore OSRS doesn't have any appeal, and sometimes servers lag/you dc (alot more often then WoW), and being a max level in OSRS is like 5k+ hours of straight grinding, plus all the quests/boss farming/achievment diaries you're looking at losing like 8k hours of progress for a maxed account with endgame gear

[@G_Dagh]

Savix is a savage

[@Jesus-bs5fl]

Who doesn't love Savix?

[@kath59]

its funny how savix told mitch to stop giving reactions and because hes giving them exactly what they want, and then makes this video lolol, bro hes doing the exact same fucking thing, i guarantee you theyre LOVING this shit bro, there is no winning, you can either lose or dont play with the trolls, those are your options.

[@WilliamKeel-v7m]

ngl. savix looking mint with the little beard action

[@Baddfroggin]

Savix is Savage af! I loved it!

[@xeroxboy01]

It's usually 300 lb'ers living in with their mom with no job, no friends, and no life who go griefing since they have nothing to live for but wow.

[@sylvornthedrood]

I love your views on compassion

[@stephenflippin9711]

Whomever thinks Savix is 'going in too hard' on the griefers hasn't played enough, needs another cup of coffee.

[@digitalconsciousness]

That Discord talk was some disturbing stuff. These are demented people. I feel like stuff like that greatly increases your chances of being a mass murderer or something.

[@grimmow187]

well deserved bans for sure. i mean isn't the whole point of the hardcore challenge that you test yourself ''can i do this?'' griefing is something thats out of your control, its obviously not how the game is intended to be played like.

[@AmittyvilleTV]

"Don't give them reactions like this, that's what they want!" -proceeds to make a 20 minute video giving them exactly that. 🤣

[@tritesy]

But the kind of attention savix is giving them is what they don't want. He's beating them. They want to see tears. As long as you aren't crying and are owning them its a win.

[@critical3337]

The fact that they have Kargoz's name the OG hardcore guy, is just so toxic, Like a new player will see KargozHC and think "oh hey isn't this the guy who made hardcore" followed by dying. Its just tragic.

[@SoSuspicious_]

Honestly, egg em on then report them all and get their main accounts banned, and those real life threats should get you banned and then charged IRL

[@gzs7483]

Imma say it again Savix with this beard looke so regal like a feudal lord

[@Notpoop906]

i've definitely spammed the fuck out of some "gamer words" in my time especially growing up playing Xbox live and other online games, but I've never said something as explicit as what that guy said lol. there's no excuse for that.

[@Kr0n0s911]

how do they do that? and how to spot they are up to it?

[@tlRaveslave]

Xaryu. were frickn dopple ganggers bro. not to mention my mains a mage too

[@notimportant6506]

Brutality! Some Khan genes comming up :D

[@ClassicKovu]

To be fair to Savix, he did justify why he was "going so hard" by exposing them in their discord. Probably a wise move skipping that part though Nice video mate

[@simonstal8800]

Can someone tell me how to gt started on this classic HC? I googled but it seemed to take me to some private servers? Not sure if that is the one everyone is playing on or how to get to the servers most people are playing at

[@ohuyao]

Xaryu don't know about Payo poggers in a chat

[@peppermint3808]

Ya Payo is quite literally doing exact same sh*t at low lvl players, but nope they won't ban him at all for doing exact samething, I hate streamers, there f*cking cancer most of the time and now blizzard has given them FULL power to ban whoever the f*ck they don't like. AND THEY SAY THAT A W LOLLLL when 99.99% of the playerbase will still suffer from griefing. F*cking blizzard only cares about their cash cows.

[@JoeJoe-b9e]

bro so im a boomer, i actually cried for 2 days after watching asmon review doomin. you would think that i hate change and dont want asmon dethroned. nothing would make me happier if you exceed asmon's success

[@Freesnuggz]

Sav....this was just so satisfying. thank you.

[@yushithesushi1625]

you need to be able to get charged for a crime for what that dude just said

[@theveni12345]

New to WoW, how does this work exactly? Shouldn't the mobs be targeting the griefers only?

[@academQuake]

Wait, so there's no appeals in HC for anyone but for the big streamers? Man, and they say it's just the game and doesn't represent real life. Also it's very easy to not be a griefer and understand why this can infuriate normal players as well: 1. The motto (the law) of this whole challenge is "DEATH=DELETE" 2. Select few get to evade the law for "the greater good" (their streams sake), but you, a normal player or a small streamer, don't 3. ???? 4. PROFIT! Not to mention that 2 minutes before the "there's no way to evade these mechanics" rant we witnessed Savix evading these mechanics 4 times in a row and even having time to chat-troll the attempted griefer. But even if there were none, so there's no way to avoid other mechanics in game too that aren't griefing, but these deaths don't (and shouldn't) get appealed under the motto death=delete. And finally, I'm not saying that death appeals for streamers should be abolished asap. It is what it is. Indeed griefers have unfair advantage of seeing location and they can target people in mass making their experience bad. But just maybe don't act like this is a form of necessity and justice. It's a convenience tool. Accept that it's a bit shitty that things work only for select people and don't for others, that it's a bit unfair, but it is what it is. Xaryu seems to be cool guy who doesn't enjoy putting other people down so no hard feelings from my side. But man.

[@dmilla9600]

Bro I’m on a 7 day ban right now, that’s one thing I hate about WoW. It’s okay for people on COD to tell u to kill your self, but when a troll gets cussed out you get banned, FUCK WOW!!!

[@eyeopening618]

😂

[@frankeagle6558]

bro savix's 16:9 eye ratio.. bro looks mad high

[@TowbinHQ]

Beat hate with love. Great commentary there ~15 minute point

[@alexTillery]

savix is doing what needs to be done

[@mysticvoodoo1264]

BABIES! I'm not a griefer but it is a game before it is a streaming platform

[@Earisu11]

What is the fix around this if it happens when/if blizzard release legit hardcore servers? Yeah the person griefing gets banned, but what happens to your char after death? Would it have to have a similar appeal process like the addon? Also, say you die from disconnect or server crash? How would you be able to continue?

[@ifucq3375]

good point

[@dslight113]

apex player little timmy : u talking about me ?

[@PossMcLeod]

You neglected to list the BEST way to stop griefers on an official Hard Core Realm, which is exactly what they WILL be doing. Making death perma. How long do you think a griefer is going to last when the HC community fight back and kill the griefers? From what we've seen most of them don't have any real skills compared to hard core hard core players. But yeah, anything Blizz can do to cut down on griefing of a movement that is revitalising Classic WoW is good in my book! And the biggest one, turning off PvP flagging is top of that list. Can't wait!

[@Mopper101]

I love this. WPvP is my favorite part of the game and while I do gank a lot, I wouldn’t consider myself a greifer. I don’t want to just ruins someone’s experience on the game, that’s such a loser thing to do.

[@ifucq3375]

ganking in a pvp server is fun and reasonable as players are playing in pvp realm and not rp

[@zargisan9017]

Huge W for the WoW community. Savix is the best.

[@mcstar24]

Some saying savix went too far? Hell nah. He didnt go far enough. I was griefed on a lowbie yesterday and i was extremely upset. I couldnt even imagine what it would feel like to lose a char at high or max levels

[@SenpaiTheExplorer]

your laughs to his reactions at the beginning made my day lol

[@Noble_Warrior34]

Got griefed at 30 by an alli an horde working together to in hillsbrad pulling a npc that tags pvp on people while I was killing killing turtles, waited 5 days for an appeal but it just was ridiculous to wait 5 days hoping I get approved so I haven't returned. Hope you all enjoy GL 🙏.

[@koala-py7uy]

He turned into a rooftop defender for this vid. And Xar showed his soy brain again, weaksauce.

[@madsgrnlund8024]

Hey Xar, How is this such a big problem though, as you can just appeal the deaths? Am I missing something? All the best man

[@dinomightx3]

The dude chased Savix around for 20 minutes completely interrupting his gameplay. If you were griefed without video evidence, it's not guaranteed the appeal will be approved.

[@darcraven2496]

Mechanics in a game are accepted dangers, griefing is not.

[@taylorpayne1993]

The new Asmongold

[@dmilla9600]

I’ve never seen sav so mad 😂😂😂😂😂 like never he started working out and don’t give a fuck

[@rubenmycox]

Finally, some actions taken

[@Erius1992]

Holy shit, the discord talk was INSANE. Its one thing if we talk about teenager who will regret it when they grow up, but to hear grown man talk shit like that is crazy, insane. JUST WOW

[@eyeopening618]

POS fr and I'm sure he knows that.

[@Scarletpimpanel73]

This just bought Savix another sub! Never seen the dudes stuff before!

[@stephenculcasi]

Is everyone playing on classic era or tbc servers for bloodsail bucs?

[@ryangriffin8907]

I don’t think people should get bans for grieving streamers. If you don’t want to get grieved then don’t stream your location. Idc if it’s your job, get a real one that benefits society.

[@brady4133]

Nah this isnt even attention for them I don't care/remember their name but you got that content Id just sayyy thanks for the donation you just made me 3k 😂