Xbox - What is Project Latitude?

Xbox has been sending mixed messages to its fan base over the last few years as it struggled to find its place in gaming again but I think we now know they have chosen a clear path. Project Latitude will be the new era and direction of Xbox whether we like it or want it.
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LIVE DISCUSSION - kzbin.info4vrbegpiQ4g

[@iamthegamepro]

Phill said it was case by case. I dont know why you guys forget this and often set yourselves up for disapointment when a game does or doesnt make the jump to other platforms.

[@findvolume]

Imagine finding out that you have to pay more for GamePass because they're putting Call of Duty on it and you don't even play Call of Duty games, wild.

[@PixelBlitzXP]

Gamepass is pretty cheap. Even if they raise it by say 5 bucks for utimate it would still be worth it.

[@judgedrekk2981]

@@PixelBlitzXP wait until it's $20 a month, will it be cheap then? $30 $40 $60??? what would be too expensive? remember games used to be $40 then they said cartridges were too expensive to make and CD's was the way and lied said prices would go down, the prices went up to $50 then for DVD it went up to $60 do not defend price hikes!

[@PixelBlitzXP]

@@judgedrekk2981 you seem inexperienced with life.

[@Foreversystemofadown]

​ @judgedrekk2981 Heavy consumers don't think, they'll pay because "iT'$ w0Rțĥ ịṭ" ​

[@findvolume]

@@DavidCornish-cn1yq Imagine thinking Microsoft is going to put a billion dollar franchise on a subscription service, purposely choosing to lose out on millions of sales and not increase the price of that subscription service. WILD.

[@bannensstuff6278]

Amazing that the ABK purchase that caused so must chaos is actually what is going to turn Xbox into the next SEGA.

[@iamthegamepro]

Thats not whats happening…

[@EmperorSonGoku]

@@iamthegameprothat’s literally what’s happening what are you talking about🤣. The difference is that they will keep their console around for the people that want it. But they are becoming a 3rd party publisher on all platforms

[@iamthegamepro]

@@EmperorSonGoku full slate ain't happening. But I wish it would. Halo on ps5 would break records… but Microsoft has to make it a big deal.

[@stephenlaurentjr4735]

Just bought a ps5 just for Spider-Man been Xbox only for years

[@gatogidh1898]

I bought PS3 just to play MGS 4, PS4 just to play Horizon Zero Dawn, PS5 just to play Horizon Forbidden West, Nintendo Wii U just to play Bayonetta 2, and finally Nintendo Switch to play Bayonetta 3 😆

[@shecklesmack9563]

Xbox really loves their “Project ” don’t they?

[@bellissimo4520]

What baffles me is that there is not a single "X" in "Latitude"... They sure love their "X"'s...

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

I love those kinds of projects, pun intended. Nintendo 64 was Project Reality. Then Xbox hit us with Project Scorpio and Project Latitude. It makes it sound like they're planning some sort of secret ops.

[@paradoxxor7770]

Project Scorpio Project Lockhart Project Phil 🤡

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol they do

[@judgedrekk2981]

@@paradoxxor7770 don't forget project Durango ugh Project Phil 🤡 indeed....

[@carltonbanxx9804]

As an Xbox guy I only see one way forward for the company as development costs are so high they can't make profit. Just selling to the Xbox player base and using game pass... They can't benefit from exclusives in the way that other companies can. The only way forward is to produce a console that is so dominant that it's reminiscent of that first Xbox generation a console that would be so expensive to make they lose the farm every time they sell one, this is the only Way to maintain interest in the Xbox ecosystem going forward that I can see

[@pmac206]

I actually think Xbox launching games everywhere is probably the smartest decision they made in over a decade .

[@alanazargushasb8557]

Mee too😊

[@matacurrei5665]

Yes. But I'm afraid they will try to destroy the industry before accepting defeat.

[@judgedrekk2981]

right and when everything is on one console then that console maker can dictate even worse than we see now.... but MS shoulda been ousted ages ago if this is their fate....

[@iamthegamepro]

Its an amazing idea. They already dominate the PlayStation store.

[@iamthegamepro]

@@judgedrekk2981 Xbox is going nowhere… putting games on rivals console is not to make you feel better about PlayStation .. its to take advantage of PlayStations user-base as the money is made from software to help them build exclusives for xbox… not all games will go to rival consoles… dont be mad when you see im right… dont be outraged either.

[@InJeffable]

The last console I purchased was my PS5 Digital Edition last year, and I was motivated by two things: PlayStation console exclusives (the Horizon games, Gran Turismo 7, the upcoming Silent Hill 2 remake, etc.) and the immersion-enhancing features of the DualSense controller. I strongly considered getting an Xbox Series console since I had been an Xbox guy ever since I bought the original Xbox at launch in 2001, but I was put off by the bleak outlook for Xbox-exclusive games and the disappointing showing from Halo Infinite (a Destiny 2 wannabe with a boring villain and no local co-op). I also wasn't fond of the comparative lack of innovation in their controller (the new d-pad circle thing just isn't enough). I would still consider buying an Xbox Series console if there's a fire sale on them that cuts the price by half or more, because I do like the idea of having one as a multimedia console -- more for my Microsoft Movies & TV library than anything else. But at their current prices, they just aren't worth it. I may as well wait for the next Xbox in 2026 (assuming the rumor is true).

[@NoseyParkerxD]

Whilst I agree it was very weak, calling HI a D2 wannabe is wild

[@InJeffable]

@@NoseyParkerxD I don't know what to tell you. The game design felt like Destiny 2 to me, and the villain was somehow even less interesting than Destiny 2's Dominus Ghaul. I played Halo Infinite's campaign on PC but never finished it, so I can't say whether it improves later on. But it definitely didn't hook me in the first few hours, and it was a real shame that I couldn't play local co-op with my dad. He doesn't have an Xbox console or a gaming PC, so local play would've been our only option.

[@matacurrei5665]

You just express the feeling of many of gamers around the world.

[@NoseyParkerxD]

@@InJeffable but they're not even the same genre. If you don't play many games and those are the only sci fi FPS you play then I guess I understand, but there are literally hundreds that fit that description.

[@iamskyfall]

Anyone who is claiming this isn’t happening is just lying to themselves. Xbox is so far behind Nintendo and PlayStation that they aren’t even competition anymore. The only chance MS has to embrace the competition and sell their games on formerly rival hardware.

[@Rocket89P14]

Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

[@johnbach2380]

Playstation meanwhile is scrambling to keep it's own existence together literally destroying its own philosophy to not support pc. Console exclusivity is a dying breed. Not just for Microsoft.

[@iamskyfall]

@@johnbach2380 That is the same tired excuse that Xbots have been throwing out for awhile now to try and defend Xbox's failures. The PS5 has sold nearly 60 million units in less than 4 years. The Switch is closing in on the PS2's record for sales. NIntendo's exclusives sell between 20 and 30 million on average. Sony's exclusives sell 10-20 million on their own without PC. It's only MS that is failing in that regard due to both a lack of quality and the idiocy of putting massive, AAA games Day 1 on a subscription service.

[@residentsteve]

@@johnbach2380ridiculous sony are doing fine sounds like you are an Xbox fanboy 👎🏻.

[@johnbach2380]

@@residentsteve tell that to square Enix.

[@Courth]

Microsoft making Xbox irrelevant. If you can play Xbox games on PlayStation, what’s the point in owning an Xbox?

[@psvitaoled197]

Same reason it is now, there are games on xbox game pass not on pc, or anywhere else. It's the premiere place to play xbox games.

[@fenrirsfolly92]

What’s the point in owning a ps? More and more and quicker and quicker all their games are coming to pc and soon enough all will be day and date

[@nicekix3038]

@@fenrirsfolly92 There’s more of a reason to own a PlayStation, than there is to own a Xbox if you own a gaming PC

[@fenrirsfolly92]

@@nicekix3038 well I don’t own a pc , I can’t afford a pc, I move around too much for work and can’t exactly pack a pc that much, and I’m not techy enough to deal with a pc, also after the 💩 I had to deal with last time I owned one, unless I have no choice I’m not going back to ps

[@dragonking2005]

Imagine playing gears of war on the PlayStation 5 and it has the controller feedback.. would be kinda dope 🤷

[@sebastianguerrero6617]

Lono when Microsoft starts putting their games on playstation and nintendo's next console, On which platform do you think those games will do better on, playstation or nintendo, I think that could be a possible good discussion topic in the future

[@TheGhost20978]

PC always it’s not even a competition

[@matacurrei5665]

​@@TheGhost20978 Can't play PC sitting in the couch with the commodities of the living room. PC is for desk experience.

[@TheGhost20978]

@@matacurrei5665 I mean you actually can so kind of an L take my guy

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

Best console launch has to be Dreamcast, not a perfect launch, but the best by far. There were so many games, moreso than any before or after it, and all of them were grand. Best and worst launches for each manufacturer would be: SEGA: Dreamcast | CD Microsoft: Xbox | Xbox One Sony: PlayStation Portable | PS2 Nintendo: Switch | GameCube I still remember launch day of the PS2 where there was a single game and it sold 10:1 against its games for years. GameCube could've been so much more if Mario had been there, and Zelda Wind Waker wasn't so poorly misjudged based on its art style. Xbox started on a real high but the problem with starting at the top is that you can only go down from there, and SEGA did as much bad as they did good, especially SEGA of America.

[@ZombieGangster]

As a Xbox player, I always thought it was strange that they didnt just port Halo and Gears of War on other platforms since those were both HUGE multiplayer games. Id say port Gears and Halo to Switch and PS5 and use half the money generated from them to make smaller exclusive games and fund the bigger exclusive games like Elder Scrolls 6.

[@compostsmurf5519]

Arkane austin was integration issue? Lol no they literally forced them to work on and put out something the studio didnt believe in.

[@charlesbronson1959]

Who Zenimax yes

[@toastyburger]

The last time I bought a console for the exclusives was the original Xbox. It took Hunter: The Reckoning, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and the best console version of Bloodrayne to convince me.

[@firesofanarchy2500]

As for your opening question. I chose the PS5 this gen specifically because I wanted to play Horizon more than I wanted to play Starfield. I was only one generation in on Playstation with an even newer account that didn't have much to tie me down at the time and I could have made the jump over, but seeing where Microsoft has headed in the last few years I'm glad I stayed far away.

[@ReforgeGaming]

i hear ya

[@iamthegamepro]

But now your port begging for Xbox’s published games.. how does that work?

[@firesofanarchy2500]

@@iamthegamepro Nobody's over here begging for anything dude. I have too many games to play already, but I'll play them if they bring them over. Personally I think it's a dumb business strategy.

[@iamthegamepro]

@@firesofanarchy2500 we dont play business strategy we play games

[@TakeshiInazuma]

This was a very good video, Lono. Microsoft is clearly pushing away Xbox as a console brand. With COD going into Gamepass, it looks like the price increases are also inevitable.

[@ItsJustHenriHeck]

Super interesting stuff right here. I think ultimately this will be good though they can as the young folk say "get themselves together" and come back stronger and more organized this next console gen.

[@ReforgeGaming]

hopefully!

[@zieraq]

Ms will found out those sales they making on Ps is actually migrating Xbox fan since their old library is not carried over. Once new game coming out they will compete with all other 3rd party on Ps like EA and Ubisoft.

[@AyeItsChillWill16]

They literally just recently put hellblade 1 back on the PlayStation store for sale(literally couldn’t even search for it last week) so I don’t doubt hellblade 2 will eventually land there as well…

[@iamthegamepro]

Will you be outraged of it doesnt happen?

[@AyeItsChillWill16]

@@iamthegamepro lol nah not at all I have a series X only reason I noticed cuz I was gonna stream it on my ps5 because I don’t have a camera for my Xbox yet

[@remorsea9013]

Guess who’s back, back again

[@ReforgeGaming]

yessir

[@alchemyize]

No Red Line = no more Hold The Line 😂😂😂

[@MohammedRyad-gs5rt]

😂😂facts

[@ReforgeGaming]

hahah

[@bannensstuff6278]

Love isn't always on time.

[@Ed-ealmighty]

Hopefully an Xbox that’s compatible with vr like the Xbox one x was supposed to have I’m not buying another system u til vet has compatibility

[@Sheriff_Bruce_Lee]

IMO, nothing's off the table. Only factor is if sales forecasts are greater than projected costs to port to PS.

[@iamthegamepro]

Phil said it was case by case... dont set yourself up for disapointment or outrage when he tells the truth.

[@iamskyfall]

This is exactly why I don’t necessarily think square Enix will follow through on bringing their games to Xbox.

[@iamskyfall]

@@iamthegameprodo you really think Phil is calling the shots anymore?

[@findvolume]

@@iamthegamepro Phil also said they wanted to foster studios like Arkane for GamePass because they would thrive and have creative freedom without worrying about sales. He said he would support the studio and their next game even after Redfall. I'm not going to call Phil a liar, but the things he says blow up in his face and the people that believe him regularly. It's not case by case if they've had multiple games in development for PS5 and Switch already. You are the one that is setting yourself up for disappointment. What Phil says is irrelevant. If Nadella wants no exclusives, it's going to be exactly that and that's exactly where everything is headed.

[@ReforgeGaming]

agreed

[@jjasper7512]

Indiana Jones, Fable, state of decay 3, Starfield (although I wish it had foliage interaction, the video clip shown has you gliding right through it) on ps5 please!

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

State of Decay is pretty rad.

[@bannensstuff6278]

It's going to happen.

[@danwelsh6706]

It means money. They want more money.

[@chrisjerome4111]

Everytime i type in xbox on KZbin i see a reforge gaming video he aint getting enough super chats 😭

[@justmeok0]

I love my xBox Series X and I can’t see how this is a problem as long as they working as well on the other consoles and everyone has a great time after all we are talking about gaming not saving someone life

[@khalidamajoud4114]

Great video, as usual. Keep up the good work, my friend! 👍👍

[@marioneymour7517]

Still anxiously waiting for gears of war 6 on ps5🔥🔥🍿🍿

[@jbarajasp]

“ make the money back” tells me that you don’t understand how acquisitions work. Microsoft did not spend 70 billion. They transferred the money to an asset. An income producing asset at that, The move is literally printing them money

[@KamalTiwari82]

If games are made to play everywhere wouldn’t that complicate things. Developers now prefer the PlayStation system because it’s easier to develop for if games are made for every device then it will be difficult for developers to create quality games and we could get games which are worse when released.

[@chr463]

We Got The Competitions Games… It’s Endgame. It’s over.

[@toastyburger]

Exclusives are intended to boost console sales. But Microsoft abandoned that strategy when they announced all Xbox games would come to PC. Predictably, their hardware sales declined to the point where their market share isn't large enough to support a AAA game budget. Sony is now starting down the same path with PC releases. Without exclusives, how can any platform holder retain customers when PC offers so many advantages?

[@driftwood9705]

Sounds like Dell laptop !

[@lollipopwaraxe6032]

Project latitude is a beautiful and natural thing for the gaming industry.

[@reelroyalevizion800]

For Microsoft not the industry Nintendo and Sony will continue as they were.

[@mikelreborn3254]

It's called a PC... I have seven PlayStation games I've gotten off steam and countless Xbox games I get to play... Now for the Nintendo games no they're not on there but there's ways of doing things... I say if you own it, rip it, keep it, play it, emulate it.

[@chris12345h]

Creativity is a good thing and bad. Look at red fall created by people who didn't want to make it but Phill never second guessed if they were doing a good job he gave them a creative space and they shit the bed. These people were tasked with doing a job to the best of their ability and they just phoned it in. Passion isn't the job. Yes Phill should of had more oversite but someone had to be lying to him. They made all this hype of controllers backgrounds for the home page hyping it up a lot and i think it was the plan to do a screw you to X box. Cause creators didn't want to make the game. I'd be firing and shutting down studios to. People are going to people and you cant trust people.

[@Quitt_Chan]

The fact is that Xbox is just not profitable as a hardware company and they are now so far behind it doesn’t even make sense to make hardware for the next generation. Many people may see this as a bad thing but it’s a matter of perspective. The fact is that they are going to pull out of the hardware market at some point so this is actually a good thing.

[@victory7763]

I'll admit, even though many have called this a long time ago, this is finally becoming noticeably normalized. There's less and less people in denial, and less and less vitriol over simply mentioning the fact that Microsoft's gaming division is full 3rd party. By 2026 nothing from Microsoft will even be remotely considered exclusive.

[@adrianwilliams6577]

Microsoft consoles only appeal to gamers that are oblivious paying more, if I want to play Forza I can now go to Steam. Whatever gadget Microsoft offers will be tied to the Microsoft Store so I'm out, Microsoft are too stubborn to realise that charging extra for games doesn't encourage growth.

[@ggrizz457]

Then ms should give dk64 back to nintendo

[@LifeCompanionDogs8083]

Its definitely not longetude

[@bellissimo4520]

Well done! 🤣🤣

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol

[@bluefiredemon448]

Xbox/pc hybrid is a pretty good idea tbh. A 500€$£ pc that can playa all modern games like the series s does

[@bluefiredemon448]

@VinniS-bd9fx yeah but I ain't paying €2000 to play 1 to 3 games every 2 years. This is why consoles exist

[@bellissimo4520]

All PC games, really. Might just as well get a gaming laptop or the Steam Deck.

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

@@bellissimo4520 Suggesting a "gaming laptop" tells me you've never used a gaming laptop lmao. Buy or build a cheap PC for the same price and you can have twice as much power therein, unless the gas bill is an issue for you, THEN going the interactive space heater route is more up your alley.

[@bellissimo4520]

@@BlueEyedVibeChecker Yes I know that, but imagine that, some people don't want to have to "build" a PC. They want convenience, and buy a plug-and-play device (which is exactly why consoles exist). In terms of PCs, a gaming laptop or the Steam Deck are probably closest to that.

[@maramara1967]

​@@bluefiredemon448pc have no games?? 😂😂😂 I got gamepass and steam (also ps games on steam) to play with mods, patches etc etc... Lol🎉

[@derhessenhaider9041]

My Xbox series x is the first console I really regret buying. I had/have PS1-PS4, PSP, Vita, Switch Lite. Loved them all. But because you couldn't buy a PS5 I bought an Xbox instead. I'm trying to sell the Xbox, because I get bored all the time. All games that are on it are on ps4 or are bad games. The Ps5 is so much more attractive because of games that are actually good. Like Spiderman 2, Helldivers 2, Gran Turismo and much more. A lot of games don't even come out on Xbox anymore. It's just like "why do you even exist".

[@battushi3]

The problem with MS is all his soft is half baked, windows, office, etc... Games are not an exception. They have the mentality of "release" and we will fix it in time. That might work for the general software, but not with games... They need to change the mentality, and that will be hard, as this is something hard for them to understand, specially if MS has been on success for so long

[@QuietDarkness27]

Here is the bird’s eye view of everything, Microsoft is returning to its roots, software. Microsoft made all of its money in software distribution. Think about it, Microsoft never made computers, but they made the software that the computers ran. The first mistake Microsoft made was getting into hardware development. Hardware development is more expensive with a lower overhead. Imagine if Microsoft never got into hardware development, imagine if they had struck a deal with Sony to provide Sony with Halo making Sony the dominate platform of choice, Microsoft could have made it a timed exclusive then sold more copies to Nintendo. Focusing on software and software development is the right move if Microsoft want to stay relevant. What Microsoft needs is other companies to develop the hardware on which their software runs, much like the Asus Rog Ally/Valves Steam Deck. While Microsoft pulling out of the hardware business is going to hurt console games (less competition means less innovation and consumer choice, and which inevitably leads to higher prices). At the very least the beloved franchises will “survive” it’s just the hardware on which it is played that will change.

[@MohammedRyad-gs5rt]

is over for exbox

[@BlueEyedVibeChecker]

If we lose our competition again (It's ridge racer, riiiiiiiiiiiiidge racer!) Everybody knows what Sony will do to the rest of us. It's bad for everyone if competition dies.

[@davegordon8602]

Microsoft/Xbox is looking at the pc gaming market and looking to lean that way. The next Xbox will be more of a home pc which is Microsoft’s wheelhouse.

[@feetonland6609]

Jez said they took it out of context

[@windsorguy22]

Exactly and he's now still gonna make the stream as if it's true when it's been backtracked like you said from Jez lol this guy really wants xbox out of the market cause of total psfanboyizem when meanwhile if anything that hurts the business and sony starts to become more complacent which we've seen them do before. And if anything routing for xbox to fail then little do u know if Microsoft goes the way reforge wants then xbox still becomes number one then not excluding any platform while Sony still tries to not just be everywhere where you'll make the most money. Everyone at some point will convert to this way because as these games take more and more to make just like sonys games, that will also be unsustainable as well, u make the most money by being everywhere, this is common sense

[@ReforgeGaming]

Watch the video. I only quote him and his article. Lol

[@jokerquinnhahaiwest2475]

​@@windsorguy22Sounds like you have an unnecessary axe to grind. Watch the video.

[@hellfiresass]

Sorry to ask could you point me to where he said that???

[@Dave_Langer]

Jez lies about everything lol Why would you believe a thing he says

[@preston6676]

Give me the Fable games on my PS5 😊

[@victory7763]

If they want to make that money, they better

[@Fallout-mw3wk]

No😊

[@1stvinyl]

Jez got understand xbox isn't like use to be ever since the one it been downhill for them

[@Perry2186]

I played halo on PC where itcwas ment to be

[@TheIncredibleEmu]

Project latitude is an empty platitude.

[@jasonseals9198]

Sony is going to put PlayStation 5 games on Xbox too, the economy is bad and Microsoft has very deep pockets

[@nicekix3038]

Doubt it