Xiangli Yao Void Thundering vs Void Tempest vs Lingering Tunes Echoes!! Which Echo Set is Superior??

[@Morichoradio]

Lingering tunes if you play Xiangli yao as a hypercarry and if he's S5/R1 Void thunder if your XLY is S0 to S4/R1 and youre dping quickswap team comp The 5-pc void thunder set bonus doesnt say that you need to hit the enemy with your Rskill and HA to get the electro buff. So, just the input itself will activate the buff. You can cancel the HA animation (since it has 2 animation) by using reso skill and tempest mephis afterwards.

[@coralreef6298]

Thanks for the tip, it's fascinating, you can literally use the skill to cancel the HA animation and reap all the buffs, just need to keep this in mind during actual combat scenarios

[@craigtrish2011]

Its a translation error though. It should say AND HA but instead it says OR. You do need to actually hit both to get the full buffs

[@Morichoradio]

@@craigtrish2011 No. You just need to do an input lol. Do I really need to upload a fcking video to prove you? You dont need to hit the enemies to activate the buff

[@finalavanger6803]

two months of daily farming for that cur$ed Void thunder & still get tràsh "sub stat"

[@Brainiac1209]

U made the wrong combo when using VT, from what i see u only use skill + echoes before liberation, remember VT buff are separated between HA and skill so u need to do both HA and skill to get it's full buff.

[@Kushiritogaming]

i swear kuro description are so confusing sometimes the description said or not both tho

[@Brainiac1209]

​@@Kushiritogamingyeah that's why we need to check the stats again to make sure

[@raptorgaming7242]

Its ez heavy atk just hold he will upper cut with his gaunlet than basic atk to activate buff than skill enhance drill one than liberation than normal skill+ cube combos easy 140k up dmg without food lvl90 r1 weapon. This guy is nup😂😂😂😂

[@shadow5175]

​@@raptorgaming7242what's your crit ratio that he is only doing 140k ?

[@raptorgaming7242]

@@shadow5175 71% 44111 double crit n crit dmg and liberation dmg bonus 39% on all echoes sub stats plus signature 48% liberation dmg bonus plus jianxin 38% liberation bonus buff....

[@Reiji366]

S0 R1 xiangli yao = LT S0 NO r1 = VT simple you don't need S5 S4 to be able to use lt, just his r1 its fine and better damage lmao.

[@ngderenfm3773]

Some optimizations could be made 1. Fix your ult rotation please Ult-skill-skill(LOR) - BA-BA-BA-skill(LOR) - skill-skill(LOR) remember to plunge after skill bfr skill(LOR) 2. VT can slightly be optimized by skill-HA-echo(cancel) HA can be canceled since after it's pressed it'll give the buff and it's not HA-skill it's because HA won't trigger at the start due to the fact that you need a BA before to trigger HA but with skill-HA this was not an issue

[@ngderenfm3773]

Although LT is probably still slightly better than VT

[@Morichoradio]

​@@ngderenfm3773Its just 2-3% difference. Thats like a 1-2 sec ToA clear time difference. Its not that significant to complain if a player uses VT instead or vice-versa.

[@craigtrish2011]

Imagine being such an elitist try hard in a gacha game you can beat anything with by just dodging and spamming anything xD its honestly embarrassing seeing people like you suck the fun out of everything just to get a tiny bit of a higher number.

[@hamutasa3]

what is LOR?

[@ngderenfm3773]

@@hamutasa3 law of reigns

[@재현7704]

TBH I d c about initial hit, I use Thundering after casting the Ult, it slows enemies so I take advantage of it.

[@raezal2883]

Xiangliao is crazy I can full star my ToA with him yinlin & verina 😂 kuro giving something free with OP I don't know what to describe it

[@No_ex_]

Void Thunder set is actually doable for XLY, his only downside is his Heavy Attack which is very slow and is only safe to use when enemy is staggered or changing attack pattern.

[@oldeyenoughy]

use his heavy attack and cancel with e and then cancel that with r

[@finalavanger6803]

lingering tunes is 9 times easier to farm but does 2% less dmg than void thunder if... only! if u have a PERFECT ROLL!! on void thunder I've farmed for (3cost)void thunder for two months/daily & still don't have double crit

[@Nicolascolau]

Lingering tunes is better up to s4r1 from there 44111 Void thunder is better ( double crit damage)

[@Deus_Star]

Looks like Tunes is really THE BEST SET!!!!! Point proven!😮

[@juandiegoatenciacorrea17]

Hello and why don't you make one with the protagonist Rover?

[@finalavanger6803]

because rover is not thunder user

[@user-q4teh65jyk]

There is no doubt Lingering Tunes is the best.👍

[@Morichoradio]

2-3% difference. Its nothing to celebrate about.

[@CallmeRein-tk5yg]

@@user-q4teh65jyk yea and alot easy to use

[@keous5644]

Since I have much better sub-stats for Void thundering, so I ain't gonna farm lingering tunes 😅

[@ggrimmfield5529]

Hmm so my investment on lingering tune actually worth it 🤔 coz my XY and his sig weapon are still on lvl80 and my focused skills are still on lvl5, but I'm already mass deleting enemies. Even those freaking snow dreadmanes and lightcrushers are getting obliterated instantly which kinda bonkers

[@shadow5175]

Lmao they are so ez to kill My record with xiangli yao was 50 sec

[@drmigi]

How can you get so much crit rate? Are there any buffs from his kit? Even with weapons and echos, more than 80% is a lot

[@yenahh6954]

It's doable than you think, as long as you have double crit substats, you'll reach it. Mines 86/233,

[@Silencer-yn8cz]

@@yenahh6954 are you using a crit rate main stat 4 cost?

[@yenahh6954]

@@Silencer-yn8cz used to be CD now I'm using CR to balance it out, now that i farmed echoes, got mine to 80/255 , kinda in the sweet spot but still not as much

[@Silencer-yn8cz]

@@yenahh6954 are your substats good? My echoes are all double crit but they roll kinda bad so ended up at 67/287

[@yenahh6954]

@@Silencer-yn8cz that's already good tho

[@whoami-vf5om]

i personally use Tempest instead of the Thundering because the 8 attacks is too slow for me

[@hussainalom5354]

@@whoami-vf5om u dont need to do all 8 attacks

[@oldeyenoughy]

@@hussainalom5354 u do

[@ilzafadilatulhaq1780]

@@hussainalom5354 "FINAL HIT"

[@JohnMcTavish-j5k]

So that means, lingering tunes have better DPS?

[@sweetwinter4803]

@@JohnMcTavish-j5k if you play him for on feild carry yes, for quick swap team void thunder is better

[@BrunucomU-e8y]

@@sweetwinter4803yeah but if you are using a 4 star on him i think tunes poses his value since his atk buffs will be a lot smaller cause of the low base atk

[@shinsoatimaku]

Ffs I just got to level 15 and got a full void set 2 of them is not great but I don't have the wave whatever to go get toons

[@JohnMcTavish-j5k]

@@shinsoatimaku i think you should just build whatever you have right now, it'll be a waste if you keep changing variants, also you shouldn’t be bothering min maxing at your current level yet

[@Knnyjb__20]

​@@sweetwinter4803so if i team him up with yinlin and verina it's more better to choose lingering tunes?

[@Lewis-Di]

My luck is really bad, farming for tempest Memphis and have crt dmg and rate in substats its really difficult but trying thundering memphis and i had double crit 😢 is it bad using thundering Memphis?

[@sanegameplayer]

thundering or tempest for quickswap and tunes for hypercarry

[@YourDailyOtter]

what.? thundering and tempest are not for quickswap at all theyre both slow

[@sanegameplayer]

@@YourDailyOtter only thundering is slow and i said that because lingering is not suitable for quickswap

[@saikatsaha4122]

Wdym it is great fir swap with changli as sub dps​@@sanegameplayer

[@sanegameplayer]

@@saikatsaha4122 no its not cause for the tune set 5 to activate the atk buff ,you have to stay on field for atleast 6 seconds. In quickswap 5 set bonus will not activate

[@BabaYaga0713]

OP is correct. VT is the only set viable for quick swapping teams. LT is marginally best for hypercarry

[@Morichoradio]

LT for hypercarry and S5 XLY VT for Quickswap and S0-S4 XLY Currently, LT is very slightly stronger than VT if XLY is not S5. Its just a 2-3% difference Also your VT combo for XYL is wrong. It should be Reso skill - HA - cancel second HA animation using Thundering/Tempest mephis - Liberation

[@Javera.h]

What's the title for bacgkround muisc

[@christopheracuna989]

how are you getting such high crit rates with a crit dmg 4 cost? food buff?

[@KenSveuz]

Did you see any food buff above the health bar?

[@Fact_Check12]

Signature weapon plus crit 4 cost. 4 of his skill chains also buff crit dmg

[@QuranAyas]

​@@KenSveuz I see. There's that dish 22% cr~

[@QuranAyas]

​@@KenSveuz and also you can stop the video and calculate all cr in the echoes , you'll get about 22% more than it should be so yes there's food buff. ( I have nothing against it I'm regularly using food buffs)

[@zenblaze8281]

@@christopheracuna989 No need for food mate. You just need 5 star crit weapon and all echoes have crit rate stat on those.