Wuthering Waves is a BETTER GAME than Genshin Impact (**ALL THE REASONS WHY**)

[@SolaceSaga]

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[@Zip_bomb]

I also play genshin like a long time ago but I uninstalled it because I don't know how the game work but after 2 or so years I see the new 4.0 update I get interested I installed it again and then wuwa came out so I don't play genshin anymore but have special place in my heart 💜

[@PurbleSun]

Hi, new watcher of your Channel. You forgot a lot of reasons like u dont need to pay for QoL in WuWa. For example a full exploration Team in GI cost u 1200+ USD if u unlucky, Natlan makes it even worse.

[@nevermore6540]

If a newer game with newer technology isn't better than a 4 year old game, I'd call it a failure. 😂😂😂

[@PurbleSun]

@@nevermore6540 WuWas is made with unreal engine 4 not 5 which was released 2014, so no new technology. PGR also imade by Kuro Games is older than GI,PGR and GI have same engine, PGR has better Animation, Character Models, Visual Effects but no openworld, ist is not an openworld game

[@SolaceSaga]

@@nevermore6540 league of legends has entered the chat

[@chiefdaji8050]

Kuro : "Devs Listen" Hoyo: Here is an update to TCG that no one asked

[@ANoobInvoid]

TCG players: 🤪

[@leostiffer530]

They should make tcg separated from genshin ... It waste of space for mobile player ..

[@shsuemlshdk]

No I like TCG you guys don’t play it because you’re reward driven

[@FeixiaoLiao]

No honestly, do they even update TCG frequently?? They update it like thrice a year and no more

[@shsuemlshdk]

@@FeixiaoLiao they update it every patch and it’s has more depth to it than HSR could ever the best thing is it’s completely free and no real world currency can affect the game it has PvP as well people just don’t play it because it doesn’t give rewards

[@itzwillow5220]

As someone who is long time AR 60 and newly LVL 71 in wuwa, I enjoy wuwa way more then genshin.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@itzwillow5220 I think I’m AR 57 in Genshin. And same for me. I really don’t have anything against Genshin. I just had this video on my mind for a while and finally decided to make it

[@rzor1911]

same, but i am AR58, been farming like crazy on Genshin but i gave up, and I saw some guys were playing WUWA so i joined the party, it felt so refreshing, and modern, easier to build characters and you can enjoy playing for many hours even without waveplates.

[@Zephy535]

LV 71. Damm I'm still trying to get the broadsword from LV 45

[@SolaceSaga]

@@rzor1911 it is so much easier to build characters, true.

[@nguyenquanghung2344]

​​@@Zephy535😂😂 you'll get there soon, dailies and quests giv good amount of exp to lv up, playing when you like to play, keep chilling 😊

[@eduardomattos7850]

genshin feels outdated and rusty, I completly agree with you when you speak about combat, genshin is easier and people and enjoy it, but WuWa is refined

[@SolaceSaga]

@@eduardomattos7850 true. I could never dislike the Genshin combat, it’s great for what it is. But WuWa takes things to another level.

[@ChiDoke]

Yah of course a game that came out 4 years ago feels outdated like obviously while they can make updates and upgrades to the game the base work of it is a 4 year old game

[@SolaceSaga]

@@ChiDoke it’s not about it being outdated. The graphics and gameplay is fine. They’ve ran a monopoly on the space for years and haven’t innovated whatsoever, that’s the issue.

[@HenrySuggs-by5nd]

Genshin whole gameplay is just quick swap and nuke no type of skill required

[@Alexandr-tf8xq]

​@@ChiDokeдело не в том когда вышла игра, pgr на год старше геншина, а боевка там лучше, тут только поход разработчика и не более, так что вы глупы если выдвигаете такой аргумент

[@jocelreloncillo8093]

difference between them, kuro listens cook and makes better qol unlike the greedy ones. nuff said 💓🔥

[@SolaceSaga]

@@jocelreloncillo8093 true man. I’m not one to glaze a corporation but they’re doing all the right things. I’m hopeful for the future! And I’m loving the game right now.

[@silverash896]

@@SolaceSaga When a corp like Kuro Games is doing something right, all we need to do is tell them they did a good job, it's 100% a valid response.

[@mr.edelweiss]

​@@silverash896yet it's being called "corporate glazing" "d/ck riding" etc., and people who does it gets called out "kurobot" "wuwafrog" etc.

[@silverash896]

​@@mr.edelweiss We had good reasons to praise Kuro, while those guys have none, that's why all they can do is complain. In short, it's jealousy.

[@jaysonkang]

I love seeing the "let kuro cook" comments cause there's actually a precedent for them. They somehow managed to deliver something special every update so far and it's outstanding (from a year 1 genshin player and day 1 star rail player)

[@SmithOfGear92]

*You're not wrong though.* I agree that WuWa does things so much better than Genshin Impact. In my case, Wuthering Waves killed any and all desire for me to continue playing Genshin. The QoL in WuWa dumpsters Genshin and Kuro Games has shown itself to be a far more respectable company than Hoyoverse; if Kuro's other game, Punishing Gray Raven, is anything to go by-- what with it's incredible Gacha system, I couldn't blame anyone for going buck wild with spending in a Kuro Games' game. And Kuro has made it clear that it's not about the money; it's about the good times. They said it themselves; they don't care about making the big bucks. As long as they make enough to keep the lights on, they're cool. *You gotta respect that, right there.*

[@SolaceSaga]

@@SmithOfGear92 exactly. I should have shown that part in my video where the CEO of Kuro said that. That was solid gold. I think WuWa has set the gold standard going forward. There’s always room for improvement but it’s a big step forward.

[@arthurgeier2545]

There is a thing called "burned out from playing Genshin". Same will happen in Wuwa. Bet on it.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@arthurgeier2545 probably. I’m looking forward to Azur Promilia and several other games as well. I’ll be patiently waiting for one day the Koreans to make a good gacha game so we’re not stuck with bullshit Chinese politics and censorship.

[@iko20101]

@@arthurgeier2545 Yeah burnout exist, but it is very strange how once people started to play WuWa they just so happen to burnout on Genshin. It is kind of like WuWa woke up the Genshin players and they decided to stop eating slop for once and play a better game.

[@arthurgeier2545]

@@iko20101 Nonsense. Many still play Genshin. This is what we simply call "new toy syndrome". The character banners are 50/50s just like in Genshin. 4* weapons (including 4* BP weapons) for DPS units are sort of mid (some even below), forcing you to pull for 5* standard weapons or sig weapons. Sure, if you are willing to spend, you will get those cool weapons without having to deal with 50/50s unless you wanna cope with subpar 4* DPS weapons. I don't see how Wuwa woke up people. This is straight up bullshit Kurobot propaganda. Wuwa is carried hard by its flashy combat but claiming it woke up people is a stretch.

[@raisukiiigaming]

ellusive realms lets you experience whaled up characters like fr

[@RaezekenOG]

fr

[@legacymse7095]

Honestly it’s too easy and you need to do that shit 15 times or so to get all the rewards. It’s a chore ngl

[@fuy1648]

@@legacymse7095 There's enough diversity in the characters, metaphors, character upgrades, echoes, etc to where you can have a unique experience well after 15 runs. Personally I played it like 10 times after getting all the rewards when it first came out just because it was fun and I wanted to see what specific characters looked like with specific builds.

[@MrWazeemo]

@@legacymse7095 its literally a rougelite mode, what were you expecting?

[@TheJNGKvault]

@@legacymse7095 if it's too hard and require up-to-date or heavily-whaled characters to get the rewards then you will compain about it too. How to satisfy you?

[@mourningprudence]

4 y.o game V.S 4-month old game WINNER: 4-month old game W for WuWa

[@SolaceSaga]

@@mourningprudence 100% dude no doubt. I don’t hate Genshin Tbf. I just want it to be better

[@bijoohere568]

PGR is older than Genshin and had most if not all of these included or just improved versions of it with new editions, so Genshin being 4 years old is not an excuse. They white glove crybabies instead of making an actual good game (it isn't a bad game, but it is mid and always has been, just had no competition).

[@ChiDoke]

@@bijoohere568Genshin is way better than PGR so what is your point? I can guarantee you almost absolutely no one new about PGR before WuWa came out heck it was WuWa that even gave Kuro serious traction to begin with

[@YhanMat05]

​@@ChiDokeJust because its popular doesn't mean its better, its like saying popular cheap chinese phones are better than sony phones because they sell more. Quality≠Quantity yk

[@ChiDoke]

@@YhanMat05 and the end of the day it doesn’t matter which game is better mechanically or has better features it all comes down to what u like and prefer that’s why I play what I want and people should too and stop needless comparison I don’t even mean this a shad or anything but I really don’t like to involve my self with the WuWa community and Genshin’s too but for a different reason yall talk about a game so much that u claim to hate if Genshin is soooo bad then why is it still living in your head and why can’t u just forget about it not everyone needs to know ooohh my game is better than yours because guess what when we dodge we slow down time instead of I-framing the hit.

[@raizer3169]

wuthering wawes is a better game overall, but genshin players refuse to accept it.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@raizer3169 sunk cost fallacy. It is what it is

[@ChiDoke]

It’s never about which game is technically or mechanically better it’s simply about which game you enjoy and like more

[@a.a.r4054]

Most genshin player just want to justify themselves for already investing a lot in genshin

[@SolaceSaga]

@@a.a.r4054 sunk cost fallacy

[@arthurgeier2545]

Your definition of better is not a fact tho. I enjoyed Sumeru, Fontaine and I like Natlan. There is something in Genshin, Wuwa simply cannot provide and there is something in Wuwa, Genshin cannot provide. Both games are enjoyable. However, you are just another CC who is taking the opportunity to s h i t on GI and get as many clicks as possible. Anyways, the rent is due.

[@darshans6321]

Once you get the hang of Wuwa combat there's no going back to any other gacha game lol

[@sergito_45]

@@darshans6321 PGR 🗿

[@kazuyaryuzaki]

Ehm... PGR

[@maxroy6933]

yeah except for maybe pgr

[@tabkg5802]

ZZZ is pretty fun too tbh. Honestly literally anything is better than genshin cause its dogwater

[@___NOTE___]

Lmao just wait for Endfield it will show what a good polished gatcha really is

[@aziz-nationalhaq6511]

Finally someone said it. People act like revenue is part of the game mechanic when these devs don't even use the money to improve the game like it legit has been top grossing gacha for over 3 years and still has least amount of improvement. Even the zzz dev team already making them look pathetic in just 2 updates

[@재현7704]

@@aziz-nationalhaq6511 Hoyo spent money to make more games in China just to milk both China and Global more.

[@mr.edelweiss]

30M+ revenue yet it's not getting invested in the game itself instead of their nuclear 😅😅 and their other game projects 😂😂

[@Scultronic]

Genshin is just a milking cow they dont want to really improve anything on the game cause of their arrogance, as long as genshin makes money nothing else matters for them. Just throw some updates to make the playes do something for a few minutes per patch and they will be happy; I think thats the mentality of the genshing devs.

[@aziz-nationalhaq6511]

@@Scultronic that mentally mainly came cause of the players. Like we are still to this date getting called ungrateful for giving criticisms 😅

[@christunstel6954]

wtf are you even talking about practically every version is getting QOL changes now on Genshin and ZZZ is dog shit one of the worst games i ever played

[@재현7704]

Event in Wuwa events have diversity and they Level it up meanwhile in Genshin they just repeat thr WHOLE thing with extra Yap.

[@LargeBanana]

HEY DO YOU REMEMBER THIS RESEARCHER FROM SUMERU? I HAVE ANOTHER COMISSION FOR YOU.

[@yxieyuuki]

paimon never shuts the fk up, shes also the reason why quests such as archon quests ar longer

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

​@@yxieyuukibtw paimon's main purpose is to extend the length of the quests pass the one hour mark to fill our time😊

[@mr.edelweiss]

​@@ayenmontefalcon6395 Everything in this world is made of mass and structure where every person has a sense of freedom for themselves. Y'mean everything in this world is made of mass and structure where everyone has a sense of freedom for themselves? Yes everyone has a sense of freedom for themselves for this world is made of mass and structure where everyone has a sense of freedom for themselves. So everyone indeed has a sense of freedom for themselves for this world as such that the world is made of mass and structure where everyone has a sense of freedom for themselves. Indeed as such I have told you before that the world has been made of mass and structure where everyone has a sense of freedom for themselves in the world. Woah, You've made my mind blown because this world is made of mass and structure where everyone has a sense of freedom for themselves for this world. *Basic Genshin Dialogue Format*

[@mr.edelweiss]

Just an example. But basically they do this every time!!! *They can't get away from this.meme.png*

[@emailsampah624]

If you truly played both game without any bias, trust me wuwa felt more entertaining, more QOL, more Quality. I mean in wuwa your time is valuable, is easy to build a characters because the material is not like in genshin where you have to collect more material to accend. In wuwa your time is respected trust me even for a new player, grinding in wuwa is fast and fun. Genshin felt more like prison you force to do anything with no skip dialogue, and minimum QOL and greedy systems. I still play genshin but im not enjoying playing it anymore.

[@cl13913]

The only lacking thing in wuwa is the story, genshin is way better in that aspect

[@emailsampah624]

@@cl13913 i mean wuwa just begun, and 1.3 is good I'm sure wuwa keep improving. Well genshin story from early patch was not really appealing for me as times go some is good some is mid, but right now the pattern in genshin story always the same, go to another region helping those region and get butt kicked everytime the MC fight.

[@nicksm2976]

@@cl13913 Genshin can have the best story in fiction, but the pacing is so bad that it's just not enjoyable for me. Whenever WuWa main story updates we just get 20-ish minutes of slower-paced yapping at first, but the moment the story picks up it doesn't stop until it's done and that makes it so much more enjoyable, even if it is quite short, the quality more then makes up for it.

[@aarushi2740]

@@cl13913maybe a hot take, but i dont feel like genshins story is thaat far ahead? i mean yeah 1.0 was bad but its steadily gotten a whole lot better since then. and we do know that kuro is capable of an amazing story from pgr, so i have no doubt that 2.0 will be thoroughly better

[@maman1414]

​@@cl13913genshin story is just like kid / baby story, wuwa have better story than genshin because world apocalypse and dark theme 😎😎😎

[@applecider6704]

I just keep on playing genshin for my daily comms because i am saving for columbina's c6r1 and as a veteran player, I am already hooked up to the story. Aside from that...nothing else really. Wuwa has a lot more potential in the future and many improvements were already witnessed by us Wuwa players only in a span of a few months. Like the recent coop event, I was playing with my friends trying to beat the living shit out of the crownless and impermanence heron for a whole hour lmao we just kept on dying it was really fun.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@applecider6704 frfr dude the potential for WuWa at this point is literally endless

[@ggrimmfield5529]

Holy shiz, i thought I'm actually bad and having bad matching to players but the Co-Op is actually pretty challenging. Personally it gave the same feeling when fighting the Red aura mobs in overworld. I hope they do more of this

[@Ali_Fuchs]

"for a whole hour lmao we just kept on dying it was really fun" That's something almost no Genshin player ever said lol Out of all people i know who play it only one could see it as somewhat fun. That's why it's funny for me to see people comparing them, they will never agree because they value different things in their games

[@Fantasy_Finale]

i completely agree with you. im also currently only saving for the 2 remaining archons and columbina, and also because im now invested in the story and to see how it wraps up

[@applecider6704]

@@Ali_Fuchs yes! Though I must say that genshin’s local legends as new additions to the game is nice, it can still easily be done with the right sustains, use Jean’s E and let fall damage do its thing, whale for a c6 and play the game mindlessly (i mean, you don’t have to c6 a character to play genshin mindlessly), even my c1r1 neuvillette is enough against natlan’s local legends. Heck, even if you S6 a character on WuWa, you still have to be good in dodging. I’m a day1 WuWa player and I still have my holograms on level 4 max 😂 I have terrible skill issues. But I’ll get there. Someday.

[@Landone22]

#8 there's no paimon in Wuthering Waves

[@Lolwhattheheck]

Abby? Except he doesn't yap much and only speaks whenever he's hungry and bro saved us from a nuclear blow

[@SolaceSaga]

@@Landone22 TRUEEEEEEE

[@SolaceSaga]

@@Lolwhattheheck Tbf Abby isn’t quite as annoying but I lowkey wish Abby wasnt in the game

[@lezardex6335]

@@SolaceSaga Because you have PTSD from paimon. Abby is great.

[@nottyseel949]

After seeing the number of people that couldn't follow what was going on in the 1.3 story, and trashed it as a result, I now understand why Paimon exists. Some people need a Paimon.

[@tzxyuaesthetics9338]

it's so hard to like both games. you can't watch a wuwa video without hearing about genshin T_T

[@vigor9675]

Yup. I like both games but want nothing to do do with the WuWa community due to how obsessed they are with trashing Genshin.

[@ChiDoke]

@@vigor9675fr it’s genuinely annoying they claim to hate again but can’t seem to stop talking about it

[@sergito_45]

​​@@vigor9675 genshin community is the problem tho, they are the ones that start trashtalking every new game without even trying it, so other communities just do it back and most of the time the new game is actually better lol, it happened with tof, hsr, wuwa and zzz that I know of, probably with many more games

[@GxGNoir]

@@sergito_45 Dude, like 90% of the hype around Wuwa was and is built around people shitting on Genshin. How is that Genshin being the problem? Wuwa community constantly punches first then complains when Genshin players do ANYTHING back

[@sergito_45]

@@GxGNoir you just made that up LMAO. The hype I saw was from PGR players excited because the company that treats them so well is releasing a big game open world. And also people that liked genshin but were dissapointed for the lack of improvement and the attitude of the devs (like myself), so if a way better company is releasing a game very similar to one you liked (but the bad devs ruined it), its normal to be hyped. I doubt normal people would be hyped about a game they dont plan to play just because its a Genshin competitor. Genshin community is always at war with everyone, I dont see HSR drama with ZZZ or TOF or even WUWA, but genshin has drama with all of them, I dont think theyre the victim lmao, especially considering they have review botted random apps for no reason.

[@hugedeal8611]

I’m currently enjoying WuWa more then Genshin personally, Natlan so far is kinda a flop for me, the Aztec aesthetic/clown paint really doesn’t do it for me and the characters released so far don’t give me the vibe of “a nation of war”. Also playing WuWa and honkai starrail, it’s becoming very very apparent that that the genshin devs aren’t really interested in providing quality of life updates to players

[@risingstar9903]

Welp! You’re playing HSR. As long as you still supporting Hoyo company. We’re all good 👍

[@W0lfscythe]

I used to play genshin, and Natlan looks more like a pokemon region than a "Nation of war." Was kind of disappointed when I 1st saw it.

[@hugedeal8611]

@@risingstar9903 oh I’m well aware HSR is hoyo, that wasn’t my point. Genshin has been out for 4 years now and there’s many basic quality of life things that haven’t happened that HSR and WuWa have already jumped on. It’s becoming very noticeable

[@hugedeal8611]

@@W0lfscythe that’s a good comparison, to me all the released Natlan characters thus far look like they belong to Zenless Zone Zero

[@SumireGT]

​@@risingstar9903are they pay you or something? you're sucking it too hard bro

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

What's crazy is despite Wuwa being a good game in most aspect, it's still overshadowed by Genshin's massive popularity, whether it being on China or in Global.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@idontspeakjapanese6289 yeah there’s a lot of reasons for that and it is what it is. But hey I’m happy with WuWa and I’m gonna keep playing it

[@shinnatangem]

It is what it is just like any Art or Music

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

@@shinnatangem Yeah as gamers we just need to love the game that we really like to play instead of engaging with meaningless debates and comparisons on who is better. Sadly, games are now slowly adapting geopolitics which often leads to fights.

[@trunksbrief6728]

Many external reasons for that

[@a4arick106]

this new co-op event makes Co-Op shines even more, and i've been hyped for the upcoming Horde Mode event in Phase 2 Also the new Black Shores exploration didn't consists even a single puzzle challenges, or even parkour challenges and solely focused on Combat to get chests and tidal heritage, which I ADORE so much! Kuro knew how good the combat in the game and they decided to double down and gives the players more combat for the exploration in this patch. Heck even the optional Elite Red Enemies now is mandatory for getting a 100% Completion since they also give you 3 chests each enemies instead of just an achievement.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@a4arick106 bro I gotta be completely honest I haven’t even done the new coop stuff yet. I haven’t had time. I just finished the 1.3 story quest though and it was INCREDIBLE.

[@unloyal4847]

Quitea fun place to meet people too, I've ended up helping out low level players clear levels and world bosses cuz of it.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@unloyal4847 oh really? That’s pretty cool. I have like no friends in the game 😭😭😂😂

[@shinsekai101]

I got stranded on ASIA server and i got no friends either lmao

[@SolaceSaga]

I didn’t consider that but so true. I am loving the combat exploration aspect of black shores.

[@BrianCarreraShaw]

I respect your opinion...but I disagree Sincerely, 4 years playing Genshin, beta tester 4 ww having spent money on both games

[@SolaceSaga]

That’s fine. We can disagree. At least we can respectfully discuss it instead of attacking one another.

[@Kawaku_M]

I think you just like genshin more

[@kv6776]

​@@Kawaku_M No shit. Just like you like wuwa. Oh god so dense

[@Kawaku_M]

@@kv6776 what you don’t understand moron, is that liking something more won’t make it objectively better. Wuthering waves is objectively better at every metric, experience and dollars spent. That was the point of my statement. The only one dense is you

[@Junowynxhu]

I love that you were being respectful and criticizing genshin objectively yet still getting attacked and insulted by the genshin shills. Its really sad. It just goes to show the genshin fandom continues to be the most toxic negative clowns in the gacha space. No wonder everyone pokes fun of them. Overall i agree with ur insight. Wuwa >>>> Genshin.

[@SolaceSaga]

Exactly. My intent is not to trash talk Genshin. I like Genshin. I want it to be better. And this is just me making a video about my thoughts. Of course, I figured I was going to get attacked. Not going to deter me from saying what I want to say though.

[@skrypnykk.770]

Objectively currently wuwa fandom is becoming incredibly pathetic and toxic. Like just check rnadom video with genshin and wuwa comparison and first comments will be a wuwa simps trashtalking about hoyo)) in 1 year wuwa community will be the most toxic among all gacha games

[@rexconnor9899]

​@skrypnykk.770 Objectively speaking ur a clown. Nothing is more toxic and pathetic than hoyo's fandom.

[@AuroraSun94]

​@skrypnykk.770 lmao boohoo genshin has been toxic for 4 YEARS.

[@Neuvillete4.6]

both fandoms will attack based on criticism your comment is proof of that

[@stormz4113]

I disagree with the part that you mentioned the Devs, in which you say “they’re doing that out of necessity”, that statement is poorly thought out, Kuro Games have always been very attentive when it comes to feedback since PGR, they don’t need “a reason” or “a necessity”, they’re just simply love they’re community and it’s players, and we love them back.

[@SolaceSaga]

Fair take. I think the statement overall holds true though for the genre, maybe not specifically for kuro games as you mention.

[@silverjuly9339]

Wuwa may have better combat systems and gameplay, but its story and EN voice acting really needs to be polished unlike Genshin.

[@Alexandr-tf8xq]

Это можно простить последний квест черного берега это более высокий уровень чем основной квест натлана

[@novaaltreaz7307]

Genshin story also needs to be polished. Hoyo can't make good execution of a narrative.

[@Kamusari011]

Genshin's story is getting outdated. It's getting repetitive. Sumeru has the best story and that's it.

[@GenshinKnight1]

Wuwa released too early and wasn't ready to be released. Game is doomed to go EoS now. I warned everyone that they would never compete with the likes of hoyo😂

[@Zedd0055]

​@@GenshinKnight1 another hoyo bot

[@blanc-2468]

5:30 oh, to add on to this, the Hoverdroid, which was added in 1.2 can one shot all ores and rocks except for the one that has yellow cracks in it other ways to break ores are using echos like Jue and Fallcy, as well as specific attacks from some characters like Jianxin's plunge atk also breaks all ores instantly.

[@SolaceSaga]

Dude I completely forgot about that. Common Kuro W.

[@naikdaun2715]

You know what? i come back to Genshin (after 1 year not playing the game) when Natlan release and have hope for better experience, but... QoL still suck and never change in term of slow exploration in all region (except new region, Natlan). Yesterday i want to change my life and uninstall Genshin because for an adult player who have limited time is not worth for me. Wuwa still playing until now since 1.0 because they're listening, QoL helps a lot, fun combat, and many reward because they respect all players

[@SolaceSaga]

@@naikdaun2715 yup WuWa is just in its own tier in terms of quality and dev feedback

[@Nikuzo]

I agree, plus fast paced games dont make me want to rip my hair out

[@SolaceSaga]

@@Nikuzo I would have that problem… but… well you know.

[@fuy1648]

@@SolaceSaga I was gonna say self roast but i realized how offensive that would be lmfao. Nothing wrong with being bald its just a meme.

[@khevvillacruz1237]

you forgot to mention it's not time consuming, and can speed run whenever you like

[@MarionFR]

So true, it should be clear as day, Genshin had so much potential but Hoyo wasted it. I wouldn't even recommend Genshin really, there is so many better games worth your time, like WuWa.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@MarionFR yeah I’d never recommend Genshin to someone just getting into Gacha games

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

Even if we do not recommend, Hoyo has still an insane marketing team to cover for them and people will flock to them regardless. Tthey even used the Las Vegas sphere just for their ads for HSR, goes to show they have the money to flex compared to other company competitors.

[@LargeBanana]

Day 1 Genshin and WuWa player here. Though I agree with a lot of your talking points, Wuthering Waves still lacks polish a little bit. My love for the elemental reaction system have now completely disappeared after Neuvillette and Arlecchino. They are too comfy and they don't care about any kind of elemental reaction (aside from Neuv passive activation which just happens naturally). As it turns out, I never needed the reaction. Using the reaction never actually enhances my output it's just a thing that exist. Because of this I am now aware of the combat for what it is. Hoyo have made mono element damage the king and I can never go back to engaging with the elemental reaction because there is no need. Since I am not engaging with the elemental reaction, the combat becomes a complete joke and a slog. Genshin have good story, but it's a game. I wonder when Hoyoverse forgets that a game needs actual engaging gameplay. Genshin have become a light novel for me. I have 0 need to pull for anyone nor do I care to pull for anyone. I have skipped Kinich, Mualani, Mavuika I might pull just for collection sake, but judging from past trends, she will be designed to work best with Natlan char which I have none and the whole package will become obsolete next year. I literally have 510 pulls f2p saved up. I wish I can refund every dime I spent on the game though it's not much. I don't need to pay anything if it's just a Light Novel to read.

[@SolaceSaga]

It will get polished more over time. Remember it’s only been out like 6 ish months!

[@Gheniel_]

@@SolaceSaga I think you just need to make a more deep analysis on points that need depth, like some enemies in genshin have unique mechanics like ousia pneuma and nightsoul, but they are not as fun to fight as wuwa's bosses and enemies IMHO. I'm not against you, just giving a suggestion.

[@SeminarChauffeur]

Who dareth summon the hoyoshill horde?! 😂

[@SolaceSaga]

@@SeminarChauffeur I’m actually shocked at the positive overall response to this video if I’m being honest. I was expected to get dragged

[@vandergrift5557]

The criticisms were valid, no bs, and the way it's delivered in such soothing voice is perfect

[@hijodelsoldeoriente]

All my first gachas are hoyo games, first is HI3 and then Genshin for 4 years and I'm still playing it. And I agree, overall, Wuthering Waves is the better game even with Natlan and the added mobility. it's easier to objectively point out factors that make it better. The only thing that Genshin does better in my opinion is world-building (not environmental design cause I think WuWa nailed that as well, but building lore). As someone who loves lore and challenging combat just the same. Genshin's plethora of in-game literature and notes scattered all over is a nice touch. As well as more interactible NPCs. But here's the thing, those only serves very few people. I'm willing to bet only few players actually read those and mostly aids lore buffs and CCs. With the 1.3 Black Shores update, the gap on world-building has gotten smaller cause Black Shores solved my gripes with world-building and they even went above and beyond. There are so many NPC talking to each other which drops lore. So many NPC interaction where the same NPC have different interactions based on a different time. I also like the faster (too fast imo, they need to slow fown a bit) writing and presentation in terms of the story. The combat mechanics and the content like the holo coop are great. Not perfect but great nonetheless. Like seriously, the holo coop event is the most fun I've ever had in a gacha coop event. The wild card are the devs and how the treat their players. They do this as well in PGR. I inow they're a for-profit company but man sometimes their actions make me think that they hate money.

[@menwise4339]

It's like they know how to make games but not how to make money.

[@komikath]

to be frank. i didn't think i nid the summary and archive of the story until they add it into the game. now i spend time reading it ingame and the map list skipping, and the flower auto marking. man that's just overall nice.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@komikath DUDEEEEE!! The flower auto marking thing is so peak. Lowkey one of my favorite additions to 1.3 haha

[@ambulance-kun5915]

From what I see all this comparison would just discourage genshin players from trying out wuwa if all they think about wuwa is that it's full of players who criticizes genshin. It sets some sort of defensive mechanism using their pride NOT to try wuthering waves.

[@LauderIX]

I know. It's both, wuwa elitist & genshin fanatics. Like, can't we play both games in peace? Neither billion dollar company is gonna pay you for defending their games.

[@vibe9281]

Both can be enjoyed nevertheless but one is genuinely better for reasons that even vet genshin players will agree with, they basically got the gacha of their dreams

[@JJKMagic]

Honestly if you're that defensive you wouldn't like WuWa either way because of the strong Genshin bias. To enjoy WuWa or well any game of the same genre you have to be open to it.

[@alvinnugraha5264]

Actually most of wuwa players already play genshin like me and I must say Wuwa is more enjoyable for me overral

[@KrrDemii]

This is all real, ive played genshin since launch and its such a shitshow

[@lapis.d3i]

Damn… for someone like me who’s part of both communities, wow - people are so obsessed with these, huh? Looking at it from a wider perspective, it’s funny to see people constantly fighting: ‘my game is better than your game,’ comparing both games, nitpicking here and there. I mean, when you see freaking adult but they’re fighting on the internet about gacha games, like, sorry, but it’s really funny to me.

[@SolaceSaga]

If you watched the first 30 seconds of my video then you’d know that I also play both games. Unless your comment is directed to other people in this thread?

[@JyGproductions]

Bro it's not even funny anymore. These people have played like 3 games in their life. And they think that all games should be made in the same way.

[@nguyenho5859]

There is always a better one. Feel doesn’t change fact. And it is natural to fight for thing you like.

[@JyGproductions]

@nguyenho5859 it's not even fighting for this you like. This is comparing two free games and think that your opinion matters more then some one else. Let people play the games they want. If you think wuwa is better, play wuwa. If you think genshin is better, play genshin.

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

It may not be the CCs intentions to cause fights between the communities(execpt for Tectone), but they indrectly caused provocations, thus leading to fights between the communities. I mean just the title itself is a provocation even if that's not the CC's intention.

[@ImJustPoxy]

I just wanted to share my opinion. I prefer Genshin Impact over Wuthering Waves. I reached level 45 in Wuthering Waves, but I didn't find it as enjoyable as others. Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like if I wanted to play a game similar to Wuthering Waves, I would just play Elden Ring.

[@SolaceSaga]

That’s a valid take. It’s not for everyone. I’m gonna say though, as someone who has the platinum trophy on Elden Ring, WuWa is not nearly as difficult as that imo.

[@ChrisUchiha7]

No, its not on the same level of a Fromsoft game…

[@Oclur]

An extremely superficial video -"Wuthering Waves is generous" The thing you call "generosity" it's actually called "player retention": Genshin hasn't given much in four years because they know people will keep playing anyways. Meanwhile, WuWa's launch was a disaster, so they simply tried to limit damage. Also, yes, people may find enjoyment in playing who they like, but the problem is that usually, when they like someone, it's not a standard 5-stars, so WuWa still didn't much towards those people; -"Wuthering Waves has better banners". Only the weapons one is better, the characters one is Genshin's but requiring one less multi. Speaking of how Genshin improved theirs, that kind of change doesn't happen overnight, so trying to imply that they changed the banner because of WuWa is just plain wrong (especially because WuWa is simply not big enough to be a competitor); -"WuWa's combat is better". WuWa is a different kind of game when it comes to combat, so the gameplay might look better, but only when compared to Genshin. In fact, I only need to mention PGR to make WuWa's look bad. WuWa is also not hard: just because Genshin is easy doesn't mean WuWa is not. Compared to stuff like Devil May Cry WuWa looks like kindergarten in every possible way; -"WuWa exploration is better", yet you only mentioned parkour (that still uses stamina) and sprinting without using it and even braking ore, but not the maps you're actually exploring. Probably because you know WuWa would look bad in comparison; -"WuWa has a skip button, Genshin doesn't". That's because Genshin has to forcefully increase your playtime. The problem is that doesn't make WuWa look better, considering the skip button was only implemented because they know they did a mess with it (and since people are going to assume things: I don't like Genshin's story that much, but WuWa was on a whole another level of bad. Being edgy doesn't mean you're better); -"WuWa's endgame is better". No shit Sherlock, but maybe the endgame isn't Genshin's prority? You just need to look at their other games to understand that. And the income speaks for them. Also, again: you don't develop another mode overnight, so it was not because of WuWa; -"Echo system is better because you combine it with the overworld". In otherwords, it's still extremely grindy, but you tried to make it sound better, when it's really not; -"WuWa devs response to feedback is better". Have you ever considered that maybe Genshin's feedback might not be as negative as you people make it to be, especially considering that if the devs were actually that bad, the game wouldn't make as much as it makes? People are dumb, but not that dumb

[@SolaceSaga]

Your entire comment is superficial and I didn’t even read all of it but thanks for stopping by

[@MisoMow]

WuWa devs feedback is better tho... They actually listen and seek to change their game for the better. Genshin doesn't. Genshin was revolutionary but to be truly great again they need to actually listen and want to make their game better. Like come on, the NPCs. Genshin would be better if its NPCs looked like actual characters.

[@killerzombies96]

So basically the TLDR is "i disagree with everything you say so here is a wall of text cuz i have that much free time"

[@andrebuskerneves6155]

All true... I'v recently discovered wuthering waves ( around 2 weeks ago ), been playing genshi for 2 years now... Wuthering waves it's amazing so far... they fixed and improved every little bad thing on genshin, combat it's way better, way more exciting, glad that o found it... For now the only "bad" side it's the amount of playable characters ( 17 on wuthering, around 70 on genshin ) and obvious less content, because it's a "new" game, but that will change with time, for sure.

[@HhtggTggfghg]

Wuwa is better than low quality Genshin in every category. Easy Wuwa win 😊

[@Yugira]

Then go play wuwa. Not that people care really, since its revenue will keep dropping anyways LMAO

[@david_ace]

@@Yugira womp womp

[@renzcapulong4221]

​@@Yugirayou care enough to react 😂

[@GenshinKnight1]

Wuwa looks like it's unrendered and dull. If you enjoy that kind of game then I guess have fun with a game going EoS!😂😂

[@renzcapulong4221]

@@GenshinKnight1 you need a better rage bait comment than that

[@meiyunwu6616]

The only good thing about Genshin in my opinion is sometime the character design/world design and the Va WUWA on the other hand, listens, amazing combat, awesome events, lots of free astrites and stuff!, exploration is much more exciting and MUCH easier than genshin 😭😭😭 there is even more but ill be making a paragraph if so. Wuwa >>>>>>>> Genshin

[@nguyenho5859]

Character design in GI is mid to bad tbh. Yae vs Changli and you will see

[@rxceed]

​@@nguyenho5859 Or Diluc vs any male WuWa characters...

[@daina012]

​@@rxceed Mondstad batman has nothing on General Jiyan.

[@daina012]

​@@rxceed Mondstad batman has nothing on General Jiyan.

[@Osprey1994]

ZZZ>HSR>Genshin=WuWa I really like the character designs in WuWa, and the game itself is beautiful. I definitely think if it were early Genshin vs WuWa it would be no contest, but current Genshin has so much to do, especially since I got a bit behind while going to college.

[@Fate_Dz]

The only thing i like about genshin is the story, wuwa have better combat , gacha and events. Even though is not fair to compare event since we haven't hit a year for wuwa.

[@maman1414]

Bruh.. Genshin story just like baby story, wuwa have better story because it's about world apocalypse and dark theme 😎😎😎

[@Fate_Dz]

@@maman1414 there are other game with apocalypse and dark theme like nikke and pgr. Nothing special about it

[@zeply_kaiteki]

ye mihoyo story writers and the honkai verse stories are absolutely insane, wuwa did flop its story in beta but now it's gradually becoming better.

[@bernardo5917]

i agree

[@Fate_Dz]

@@zeply_kaiteki yep, I enjoyed the shorekeeper story with mc so far. So I hope I would see more of such stories from them

[@cl13913]

As a long time genshin player that has been hooked to WuWa, it’s a way better game in most aspects, but they still need to work on their main story and characterization; if you only care about combat you won’t care but if you care about the story/lore WuWa writing is way worse (at least rn).

[@Tanaka-q1n]

Kuro cc's showing the best side of wuwa and gameplay:🤮 Kuro cc's trying 100 diff ways to show their game is better than genshin :😎

[@stipzgaming]

4 years in Genshin Impact, how far has the story progressed for us so far? what we know in v1.1 is pretty much the same. I still have no clue where the story is heading, every new region release feels like another filler arc of a shounen jump anime, I'm not even excited for Natlan's story. and the transmuter in genshin impact is just a huge insult, feels like they've just put that for the sake of saying "it's better than nothing".

[@shinsekai101]

Ive been saying that the mc is just an idiot errand boy. The sibling came for a moment and said, sup bro, shit came up and now i join this side. Hopefully we wont be fighting each other. See ya, peace out. Then the mc be like, aight understandable. Complete shit when it comes to main story. And the country story is not exactly any better.

[@WanshiLucidDreamer]

4:03 Quick swap, Forte circuit; Skill cancel, Forte cancel, LBR cancel, echo Cancel, echo transformation and echo summons and not to mention your basic attacks actually damage your enemy

[@SolaceSaga]

Brother I didn’t want to do a deep dive on the combat but yes you are absolutely right hahaha

[@felipebraga5159]

Reasons WuWa is worse: Characters look ugly and made by AI, maps look recycled and made by AI. The story is god awful and characters have no depth or personality at all. Combat system has 2 cool things, but the lack of elemental depth just makes teambuilding simple and straightfoward. Elements dont matter at all. The game is a fucking pain to level because none of the 3 systems are aligned with each other: you cant level echoes while you leveling the battle pass, while exploring or while leveling your characters, it just feels very time consuming.

[@melekbasri1575]

Even 4* in wuwa looks better than many genshin's 5*

[@GenshinKnight1]

People who say WuWa is a better game are just mad they spent so much money on a game they don't play anymore. There is a reason why they spent that money on Hoyo games. Hoyo is the best company and will continue to put Kuro in the dirt! That's what happens when you make Dawei cry.

[@melekbasri1575]

@@GenshinKnight1 Hoyo is the reggaeton or the twilight in gaming industry XDD

[@killerzombies96]

​@@GenshinKnight1 yeah it took Dawei's intervention to actually do something to a 4 year old game otherwise we will still be given scraps 💀

[@nixnax1489]

Can't believe we get AI responses like these now in the comments.. smh.

[@johns783]

love both, play both, still prefer genshin overall. not quitting either any time soon, though. but the music, the whimsical world, the voices, stories and game performance are all leagues ahead in genshin's favor. Wuwas got the combat, more free stuff and qol. Be interesting to see if it ever takes the top spot for me, but it has a ways to go. If ps5 release kills it that'd be a big deal to me.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@johns783 all totally valid. I still very much enjoy Genshin I just want it to be better

[@sylthfarn3187]

People always talk about Genshin's story but Paimon is the story killer for me.

[@fundamental7366]

​@@sylthfarn3187 That's unfortunate.

[@maxttk97]

Yeah I can agree with you on this. I play both the games. I still pick GI for now.

[@misua.]

I play both games and I agree to all you said hehe

[@moonhead4057]

I also play both games, but I spend money on Wuthering Waves more. Idk, I just feel like Genshin does not really deserve my money and much support, considering how big the company behind it, but gives little love towards the player base.

[@SolaceSaga]

True. WuWa devs by being so good have made me want to spend more money

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

sike its a good thing results speak for themselves lol

[@suigetsuhozuki6512]

Wuthering Waves is better than Genshin Impact by a mile. The combat in Wuthering Waves is better, especially the Main Character Rover. He flares up his skills & more better than Aether. Aether combo set feels very same & basic & mid as hell.

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

I mean if you compare Rover and let's say Traiblazer from HSR to Aether, the latter will really be bland. Rover is a straightup OP MC coded while TB is a comedic meme

[@andreassetiawan122]

Even the female character design is better in Wuwa than Genshin impact

[@wiremutopia1450]

@suigetsuhozuki6512 So true, ahahah. 😂😂

[@PinPimYT]

It ultimately depends on what you value in a game. I completely understand why someone would much prefer WuWa over Genshin but I still prefer Genshin because it has specific aspects which I find more important. I say this as a casual player, I think Genshin (subjectively) destroys Wuwa in terms of music, world building, exploration (not stamina wise like the world), and prefer the vibrant feel of the game. Pulls are a good thing but since I don't really connect with Wuwa characters or any gacha in general, I don't really care to pull a lot of the time. QOL wise, I never really feel inconvenienced in Genshin or Wuwa. Can't really speak on the new player experience since I'm not a new player and don't like endgame content for both games, I don't enjoy any endgame content in any gacha tbh.

[@av3_ther]

I agree! I appreciate Genshin so much because of how alive the world feels based on the music, worldbuilding and tons of characters interactions in the game. That’s Genshin’s biggest strength imo. I now play more for story (since I 100% the entire Genshin map except for Natlan) and honestly, I do prefer it more because there are more characters to interact with

[@cl13913]

I play both, the story and characters in genshin are still my favorites so far, wuwa story wise is still very bland rn, but honestly it’s worth checking the game since the combat is so entertaining

[@Zip_bomb]

Especially the loading screen music in genshin is better cuz you can hum it 💀

[@재현7704]

@@PinPimYT Being casual doesn't have to do with Music, world building, exploration? Being casual means you can skip stories and call it a day if you want.

[@PinPimYT]

@@재현7704 I wouldn't say skipping story is casual. Casual I guess is just not playing that much idk

[@rexconnor9899]

1.7 thousand likes for a small cc. U cooked hard here solace 🎉

[@SolaceSaga]

Thanks brother I appreciate that!

[@nguyenho5859]

You can’t skip and mobility is put behind a pay wall. These are enough of a deal breaker for me.

[@desmitgmz3725]

I've played genshin for 4 years now. And even after wuwa release i keep playing both. But I have to agree that Wuwa is a better game at almost everything that matters. One thing Genshin has the upper hand is music. I think genshin OST at launch was more memorable than wuwa's, but this is something at which Wuwa can compete and can improve, for example, with recent SK's OST or 1.3 black shore's music... Besides Kurogames made PGR and this game also has many bangers. Another thing you could argue Genshin does better is story... However, if you compare both 1.0-1.3 story... Both are ok really... Genshin's story peak was at sumeru, then fontaine was good... It had its moments during liyue or inazuma. But wuwa is not even 6 months old and has also had its great moments like jinshi's or changli's stories, plus 1.3 was cinema. So there's hope for wuwa to be on pair with Genshin or even surpass them, but i doubt it personally. Everything else: combat, exploration, character designs, animations, farming, endgame, rewards, devs dedication... Wuwa is the better game, while just being 5 months only... So now imagine what is gonna be at its first anniversary, and so on. Anyways. Good video.

[@SolaceSaga]

Thanks dude I appreciate it and thanks for stopping by!!

[@leomatsubara8558]

WuWa devs adding QoL every patch is the real differentiator for me. Like I've been playing Genshin for almost 4 years and they only added extremely basic QoL recently like one click resend on expeditions, boss cooldown and fucking increasing the resin cap. I could probably write a novel with all the QoL Genshin needs and probably won't add.

[@acnhox-g2z]

I will get call a hoyo bot for this But people don't give GI combat enough credit The core combat of GI is not at depht at WUWA ,that much is true ,but the team building and theory crafting in GI is way ahead of Wuwa even if you only use GI 1.0 roster.The elemental reaction and the existion of elemental mastery (a dps stat that don't reply on crit and character base stat ) make alot of low tier character still viable to clear endgame content till this day . The best example is Deyha ,people clown on her for being the worst character ever since her release,but she now became quite good becasue of her element and how she work well with the 2 new natlan character ,she now quiet viable in two strong meta team Kinich and Mualani I doubt low tier charracter in wuwa will ever make a comeback to the meta later on ,because how much charater rely on having good base number on their kit. (sorry for my bad english )

[@gatoktaviana9438]

Wrong. Yuanwu is an example being Carried by Jinhsi. He never be in the Meta, after Jinhsi release, Yuanwu become a good F2P team of Jinhsi, he is so to good to fill concerto Jinhsi that 1 rotation is enough to fill 2/3 of Jinhsi Concerto and dealing damage higher than Yinlin Support ( except personal damage). As for Genshin, the 4 stars DPS are pretty much getting Ignored, even 5 stars is getting Ignored too an example is Ayato & Yoimiya, which is funny to me. Wrio having an dedicated support (Emilie) while Ayato & Yoimiya getting ignored for 1 years is quite concerning. Ayato is irrelevant after Neu and Yoimiya is irrelevant when she came out (Getting doomed by HuTao) is funny. This not include 4 stars like Yanfei. If you think older character is doind good in Genshin, remove the busted one (Bennet, Fischl, XQ) and we can talking.

[@RealQuarlie]

I mean, 1.1 already kinda disproves that last point. Yuanwu Was considered a bad character, and suddenly, he became actually good due to coordinated attacks getting special usage, which will get even better with Youhu, who also buffed coordinated attacks. Meanwhile, lots of characters in Genshin are still useless, such as Dori (nobody uses her, let's be honest), due to the fact that the combat relies on raw numbers, rather than skill. Even just in general, most characters in WuWa can actually just be used, simply due to the fact that their is an actual increased skill ceiling. Even "bad" characters can clear the hardest content in solo runs, when you are good enough in the game. Also, having forced synergy builds is different to having normal synergy builds. In Genshin, if you want to use Hu Tao in a good way, you are practically forced to use a good hydro off-field sub DPS with good hydro application. That alone already Limits her to just like having 2 possible characters here... In WuWa on the otherhand, this does still exist due to outro skills and buffs, but you can also make Dual DPS teams due to how all the mechanics in the game work. You can basically combo up almost all DPS characters, and play them togheter with barely any restrictions. That is much better game design, than being forced to play very specific units. Genshin sells you Hu Tao, so that you now also have to buy Xingqiu or Yelan. It's basic predatory Technics... Genshins mechanic would be good, if it was a normal game, where you had access to All characters. The fact it is a gacha, specifically, simply makes this bad content. Creating you a problem and then selling its solution.

[@AdrianAron-i7l]

The only reason genshin made it this long was because there was nothing in the market with that kind of visuals and music . hopefully wuwa can stand the test of time .

[@qwertyandwasd]

I'm just adding information here. Kuro's other game, Punishing Gray Raven, had 100% rateup on character debut banner with 60 pity. It's in their blood to be f2p friendly.

[@SolaceSaga]

I didn’t know that. That’s awesome. I should’ve included the statement that the kuro ceo made about his stance on making money. That was legit af

[@idontspeakjapanese6289]

Which is kinda sad TBH, despite PGR being a great game, they are slowly loosing popularity and the number of players is on a downward spiral.

[@yellowgamingtv4476]

Yeah yeah, Kuro is better at listen to players. But since latest stream, i afraid that Wuwa will run out of content faster than Genshin. We all know how it take 4 years to have a free 5 star character, because they save their contents very much. Look at Wuwa, we have everything Genshin didn't have past four years, which mean it's a speedrun. I just want those two remain together.

[@lelouchlamperouge3077]

SImple, If you like to feel miserable, Kuro will always make you even more miserable. And, that's me. Kuro always successfully torture me.

[@SolaceSaga]

What do you meannnnnnnnn bro lmaoooooo

[@TheHadzir]

One more thing, kuro gave us the shooting drone to help us who dont use gun character instead forcing us to switcth to gun character so it make us easier to explore the world, meanwhile genshin still forcing player to have claymore to gather mineral

[@SolaceSaga]

I completely forgot about that. Common Kuro W

[@shu12316]

I decided to try again Wuthering waves 1.3 after dropping it at start of 1.2. Guess what happened ? It crashed in first 5 minutes 😂

[@SolaceSaga]

Damn foreal?? That sucks dude I’m sorry to hear that. I’ve been fortunate I guess it’s always ran fine for me.

[@nicksm2976]

When I first played Genshin, the first 100-ish hours, where I would just casually do the main story were decently enjoyable (though the slow pacing starts feeling really bad after that much time), but the moment the enemies started getting more health at around AR 40-45 and when I actually wanted to start building my characters it just takes FOREVER. I played for around 200 hours and guess how many fully built characters I have? Zero! Nada! Meanwhile in WuWa, at no point did the enemies ever feel like damage sponges, I have 6 maxed out characters and I never had to grind character xp or weapon xp, only shell credits, talent materials, boss materials and echo xp. Also never had to grind monster drops, because grinding echoes around the map is actually fun (imagine that lol).

[@viole_deviant]

And some people still think genshin artifacts system is better that wuwas echo system 💀

[@ImJustPoxy]

@@viole_deviant it is those even if you can farm echoes at anytime

[@risingstar9903]

*sigh* Here goes the drama again. With videos like this. I don’t think the drama between Genshin and WW will ever ends. Like can we all just calm tf down and enjoys which ever game we like? Comparison will only spark wars and no one likes each other trashing the game we like. KZbinrs is a different scenarios though since often not benefit over the drama.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@risingstar9903 this isn’t drama. This is me sharing my opinions about why I think Wuthering waves is a better game. And I’m not benefitting from shit my channel is insanely small and I am brand new to KZbin. I make videos that I have fun doing. But go off somewhere

[@risingstar9903]

@@SolaceSaga Well I’m not saying you specifically. But tbf the comment section itself is a drama though. I mean, you’re KZbinr I think you know this as of now, but often other KZbinrs like to compare between Genshin and WW because often it gets them views WW. Like I respect your opinion and do understand it is but an opinion

[@user-og9nl5mt1b]

Get used to it man . When wuwa youtubers run out of content . This is what they love to do . Trash genshin . Out of no where. For no reason. It's thier go to strategy for keeping the channel in the algorithm

[@risingstar9903]

@@user-og9nl5mt1b Well I wouldn’t say my guys was trashing. He did make some valid point that even I myself as a day 1 Genshin players quite agree. I’m talking about other KZbinr overall.

[@zero1ancer]

​@@user-og9nl5mt1boh thanks, finally found angry genshin player comment i came for

[@kv6776]

Why is the concept of playing any game you like so hard to grasp? Nobody is forcing you to play any game you can drop it anytime. Mfs want to turn everything into a competition.

[@legacymse7095]

Another day, another wuwa shill who can’t live without bringing everything back to Genshin like a broken, obsessive ex.

[@SolaceSaga]

You’re actually a fucking idiot. I’ve been playing Genshin since before the miserable night i spent with your mother when you were conceived

[@kaffewomble1288]

​@@SolaceSagatop tier content creator everyone made a comeback like a 10 year kid🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@-LostforWords]

Genshin is broken anyway for example did your dev tells you about the Time Gap of that artifact editor? Da Wei Cry for what? they've listen? really? 4million players EVERYDAY! and have a SURVEY why they cant do properly? EVEN A FCKING ARTIFACT LOAD OUT? im not really surprise how stupid genshin player is that they didnt even notice... they need paimon to REPEAT IT FOR YOURSELF! and the MC is a fcking NPC in the background!

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

wuwa shill? bro didtlnt watch the video. genshin is broken and the only obsessive ex are the addicted genshin impact players tryung to cope on their extra 3 pulls for their lantern rite😂😂😂😂😂

[@ayenmontefalcon6395]

another day, another genshin dck rider trying to cope bc its only a matter of time when azur promilia, project mugen and neverness to everness comes out and genshin will look like an oitdated version

[@KorvalisPT]

I don't think it's fair comparing both in such direct way. Genshin is now a 4 year old game while Wuwa is bearly half a year. There has been competition in the past for Genshin, like Tower of Fantasy which failed to compete with Genshin. What i mean is that other games such as Wuwa and Tower of Fantasy had the time to study and improve Genshin's Features as a Game and as a fresh releasing game they can quickly adapt and change Genshin's Features. Ofcourse that if you want to compete with an already established game like Genshin, you have to be more generous, not to mention that currently, Genshin has around 600 hours of content in Main Quests alone, so not many people will want to start it now from the begining. If Genshin was to change it's mechanics now, how would other polayers that spent Hundreds if not thousands of dollars on it? They would feel cheated or scamed. So yeah, any game that is similar to Genshin that is releasing now will inevitably be better than Genshin. But nonetheless, it was Genshin that open those possibilities for those Games, it showed that having a massive Open World with tons of exploration and diverse cast of characters to play with and captivating lore is possible on the Phone, for this reason, Genshin is one of the best Open World Free Mobile Game out there and will be marked in Gaming History.

[@MisoMow]

I agree, Genshin was revolutionary and it will be marked in gaming history. WuWa is better to me though, it took what Genshin did and made it better.

[@N0rainu]

Kuro is trying to make a good product to please their customers so they can make money while Hoyoverse is trying to make a good product so that they can maximize profit, that is the main difference about the 2 games.

[@SolaceSaga]

True. I should have included the quote from Kuro’s CEO about that.

[@voldlordemort2631]

You should mention which game was a risky project by small studio and which is backed by tencent and meant to compete with genshin. Hint, first one was a passion project.

[@theolailheugue9402]

​@@voldlordemort2631 that straigh up faulse. Do you know what back up genshin ? The worse of the worse phase of HI3rd when the gacha became so pay 2 win and extremely predatory and agressive that even FGO can be considered f2p friendly.

[@theolailheugue9402]

Tencent have only 14% of the shares of Kuro they have 0 décision making and Tencent is just an investissor and nothing more like Sony invest in Genshin for the port on PS. Don t talk about subject you know nothing. That gonna permit you to dodge the missinformation you actually spread.

[@elijah7616]

Well i respect ur opinion but i believe comparing these 2 games is utterly baseless as both games target different audiences and both games have different theme . Its just about preference. Genshin devs maybe useless and the gameplay might be boring then wuwa but the game is much polished and is very successful in creating a deep well written universe than wuwa. People just dont play a single player game just for its combat and generosity. Theres a very solid reason why genshin still is at the top of anime open world rpg even after 4 years and are able to maintain and retain so much loyal fanbase. Wuwa is a great fun game with exellent devs but they will never surpassed genshin no matter what they do because they had made a mistake of launching an unpolished game in the market its a known fact . If they had the quality of their 1.3 update from the beginning itself they could have in an advantageous position than genshin but they missed it. At the end of day genshin theme just works for a large audience thats why they always wins in the numbers game wuwa is made for only small audiences thats why they dont have the numbers is as simple as that. People are not dumb that they will still play old genshin a lot even if wuwa if a better game exists . Reality and pr just does not works that way man . Thats my opinion so any hyper toxic community out there dont mind me . 😂 My advice play the game that you like and enjoy . I play both genshin and wuwa as i like both games . Its that easy. Games are there to relax and enjoy not to compete.

[@denzel4341]

Personally: UI: Genshin Story/Lore: Genshin Game Design/Aesthetic/Architecture: Genshin Music/Voiceacting: Genshin Cutscences/Animation: Wuwa Exploration: Wuwa Combat: Wuwa QOLs/Dev Response: Wuwa I play both games and my only real gripe with Genshin is how they poorly communicate with their playerbase, I also don't blame them, the Devs were transparent from the Start, I only noticed the downward trend when Genshin became mainstream and the Zhongli rework happened. The dev posts and in game transparency started to drop consistently since then. Wuwa on the otherhand had a rough start and is still has ongoing damage control right now as the game still has ingame issues that needs to be worked on. I could only imagine the massive uproar when Wuwa's anniversary comes and the upcoming Open world games arrive. If Hoyo suddenly releases QOLs quickly as Kuro and adheres to their playerbase during that time, I will quit the game indefinitely, as that is a massive betrayal to the players. Imagine seeing majority of playerbase QOLs on Genshin implemented in the launch of their newer games, remember, the "Genshin Could Never" quote originated from HSR and not WUWA.

[@LauderIX]

Kuro has a knack of making a bad & chaotic launch, like they did in PGR too. Strangely enough, I prefer genshin's cutscene animations over wuwa's while for overall game design I prefer the latter. Genshin's more cartoonish animations just felt more iconic & memorable to me. I still remember the cutscenes from genshin's 1st versions while wuwa.... none of the story & cutscenes stuck with me so far, except for the recent ones.

[@denzel4341]

@@LauderIXI cant remember any Genshin cutscenes and animations because they’re the same recycled animation four years ago. They couldn’t even animate a proper hug for Kachina and Mualani. Cant even show their hands when handing off or showing something. The only cutscenes in Genshin that are noteworthy are the special animated ones. Meanwhile cutscenes on wuthering waves for both special cutscenes and dialogue look superb. You can check both story patch updates on KZbin and the difference is very noticeable specially for the dialogue scenes. Like bro… kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWHPpaN7edmHfM0si=6Ykifq9PaWdiBGEQ

[@LauderIX]

@@denzel4341 Perhaps I should've specified on animated cutscenes, if I hadn't already. Higher quality vfx doesn't always translate to better cinematic effects. Angles, timing, execution, etc, there are other things that are put into consideration. If you don't understand what I'm getting at, take a look at HSR's animated cutscenes, specifically Penacony parts. That game has the unarguable best cutscenes in the gacha game market as of now. Wuwa is also severely lacking in sfx for their cutscenes, so much that the difference between GI & Wuwa is like night & day. Genshin's animated cutscenes from Sumeru & Fontaine still trump everything that wuwa has pulled so far.

[@denzel4341]

@@LauderIXwe all have our prerefence tbh my experience with Star Rail in Penacony wasn’t great, So many plot holes and inconsistencies during the entire plot point I stopped playing HSR because of the inherent power creep.

[@LauderIX]

@@denzel4341 That's fair. I don't think that HSR's story is amazing either, just that the cutscenes are the best we currently have compared to other gachas. Story wise there are other much better games like Limbus Company, Counterside, Guardian Tales, etc. But for me, WW's plots felt rushed & repetitive. A lot of plot points felt left out or forced, like abruptly antagonizing tethys system, then for some reason it turned good again after a beating. The good part that I could think of was shorekeeper's story ending, and only because it was out of place with the messy build up. They failed at the world-building part, but at least made room for good character development. Most of the casts also lack depth and suffer from being one-dimensional. Chixia, Yangyang, & Baizhi are prime examples, they have only 1 trait that makes up their entire character, kind(Yang²) bright/lively(chixia), serious/cool(baizhi). And then we have Jinhsi, Aalto & Encore, who have some depth but are still pretty bland. Changli & Jiyan were good. Shorekeeper was the best thing to ever happen in WW.

[@Gheniel_]

In these last 2 hours hoyoshills have brigade this video to put negative comments and dislike on it, the dislike ratio went from 50 to 120 under this small time, they seem to be putting alot of effort into it lol. I wonder if the final result will be positive or negative for WuWa community.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@Gheniel_ I have a 91% like to dislike ratio on the video right now. It’s fine. And even if I did get dragged, which is what I’d expected, I wouldn’t care. Still gonna say what I’m gonna say.

[@JRPGGG]

Darksouls is a better game than Wuthering Waves

[@SolaceSaga]

They’re not even in the same genre?

[@Zero_Li24]

Damn, and here's me sticking to genshin all these months. Still, I haven't seen anything interesting for me from Wuthering Waves that could make me play the game too. Genshin just feels too alive and mesmerizing, I like the chill and atmospheric play style

[@christunstel6954]

You are coping hard 1.2 was so boring, Genshin has better character designs not 1 limited character in wuthering waves i have cared for and my friend feels the same

[@SolaceSaga]

Both you and your friend are welcome to keep playing whatever tf you want. Me on the other hand I’m gonna enjoy Shorekeeper and Camellya, peak character designs, while I continue “coping”. Send the video to your friend though and tell them to leave a comment while they’re at it

[@christunstel6954]

@@SolaceSaga blue hair peak character design lol ok.

[@mohammadamaan3140]

This is one of the reasons why wuwa will always be in genshin's shadow As long as wuwa players act like a child trying to impress their alcholic father they will never get ahead of it.

[@II-S_K_A_Y-II]

If your title is this clickbait-y, I won't even take the time to watch your video to say your wrong

[@SolaceSaga]

The title isn’t clickbait, moron. But thanks for leaving a comment and boosting my engagement.

[@avi8183]

Another thing I like about wuwa is that if you zoom in to any character, you will notice that their in-game models actually looks BETTER than their 2d official arts, which is insane because their 2d models already looks really nice. Genshin could never btw like have you seen Albedo? disgusting. Their in game models look like they shrank in size, age and quality as compared to their 2d official art. All these poeple saying they dont hate genshin, BUT I DO. I PLAYED THAT GAME FOR ALMOST 4 YEARS AND IT DIDNT GET BETTER. I will keep hating untill the devs pull their head out of their @ss and atleast learn from hsr if not from wuwa.

[@SolaceSaga]

@@avi8183 Shorekeeper. I don’t even need to say anything else 😝

[@avi8183]

@@SolaceSaga trueee, she is gorgeous

[@SolaceSaga]

@@avi8183 can’t wait for Camellya though…

[@teeman7137]

Its a double edge knife really. I must agree with you but that they look better than the splash art and thats because wuwa art style very generic. Imo its save by the technology. In 3-4 years youll understand what I mean.

[@mirkmolon]

The moment wuthering waves release genshin update the reesin cap and more feature, they literally counter their release and I realize that they scared, and yes money eater genshin gacha, they treat you poorly you support the game but thats it, and this genshin shills said Better than nothing, for me big thumbs down I finish my characters they're stronger and finally I retired in that game and uninstall I went back to genshin cuz they give 1600 free and claim after that I Uninstall just getting the rewards and left thats it, I feel clown supporting their game for 3 years in grind in the end they didn't care much in their players ITS BEEN 3 wish 3 YEARS ANNIVERSARY bro think about it.... thats thrash treat, and I finally found a new home called Wuthering Waves I feel relieve its like you've been stuck in a void and found a light to next game Big W man I got so many things to say maybe I reserved this in a next video to comment gg brothers

[@Es3re]

huge yap ahead, but this is MY PERSONAL REASONING why i feel wuwa is better than genshin i still like genshin, even though i dont really play it, as much as i did...........only when my friend asked for help in her world, Genshin was a big part for my adolescence (on my 16th to 19th year) , and i pretty much would defend that game to death before, i was so inlove in the game, but over time as i grew up and a bit mature, realization struck me that.........genshin impact is in the wrong hands of developers, i hated the team for genshin impact, i wanna play it still, but what they are doing to the game is making me......not play it before genshin though, i got PGR, but genshin made me leave PGR (with the bad launch of PGR also) , yet i returned on the game after a year, on neir collab.........till then i stayed and kurogames made me realized, its not about the game, its about the developers, Kuro love its players so players love Kuro (true kuro fans) how i wish to have the feelings i had back then but, its not there anymore wuwa doesnt have the same feeling as i had back then but devs treatment is what i like about it

[@GenshinKnight1]

We get it. You are trying to make Genshin jealous that you found another game. Well guess what, Genshin will forever live rent-free in your head

[@Es3re]

@@GenshinKnight1 no worries it already is

[@diahprasetianingtyas6822]

Abby is my fav gacha mascot. My ears can finally rest from Paimon's screechy voice. I MUTE when fishing in Genshin since I HATE it no matter what language its on. With Abby at least they don't have more voice lines than the MC and I love the sass. Abby straight up challenging Jue is just peak when they thought Jue was bullying Rover. 😂

[@XieRH1988]

There is something about the Echoes that you didn't mention and that is just like Genshin, the Echo substats in Wuwa can also (in your own words) "roll like shit". And not only that you also left out the glaring issue with Echoes which is that you can't see what substats they have at the beginning because they are all hidden initially. The Malleable Echo is similar to the Self Modeling Resin from Hoyo's other game, Star Rail and sure enough players have ran into lots of cases where they wasted the item to craft a piece with the stat they want, only for the substats to come out as unwanted crap like DEF/HP. At the end of the day you can't always get what you want if it's subject to RNG.

[@arthurgeier2545]

Not just "roll like shit" but echos whose mainstat elemental dmg buffs and sonata dmg buffs are not identical. Kuro copied this from Genshin but all these i d i o t s scream "Wuwa is better" without realizing that Kurogames could have done it differently but they were too lazy. Add more creatures, each creature provides a specific dmg buff or support-mainstat (e.g. havoc-based creatures only havoc dmg%) - voila, the grinding would have been much less of a chore and much better than Genshin's. You would end up with RNG for substats only. But Kurogames just copied most of GI's artifact flaws and called it a day.

[@cruLife-morningSTAR]

​@@arthurgeier2545 lol you just want it to be much easier. Its already easy as it is, you can clear the end game contents with average builds. And theres an overworld echoes you can farm or just go for tacet field for "more chances" to get those "elemental dmg bonus" 3 cost.

[@arthurgeier2545]

@@cruLife-morningSTAR Meh teams and average builds can suffice but the amount of restarts in ToA just goes through the roof when compared to well-built teams, consisting of well-built characters with 5* weapons. The difference is day and night.

[@scienceteam5848]

@@arthurgeier2545 my xiangli yao clear ToA with 4 star weapon whats your response?

[@Morkibay]

I disagree on that part. After 4 months the majority of my characters have almost perfect substats. It's much easier to tell that your echoes are bad. And it costs way less resources. I cleared 2 towers 30/30 doritos. I have multiple characters at 80 and all my current DPS at lvl 90. The game actually respects my time in terms of grinding.

[@greeeeeeeezy3893]

As a day 1 Genshin F2P, I am a bit disappointed in the one-sided nature of the discourse in the comments thus far lmao, but this is a WuWa community, it's fair. Anyways, I think your points at the start are understandable, Genshin took 4 whole years to give out a free five star (of which only 3-4 are really viable), the rewards are quite miserable in comparison to many other gachas, (I personally don't really care for a few reasons, but many do- which is reasonable), and the quality of life in areas like the weapon banner, artifact grind and satisfying traversal options has been pretty sad for the longest while. But TLDR: every other point is subjective imo. Combat in this game can be more satisfying and deep than almost anything else to the right audience, namely people like myself and most of the Genshin TheoryCrafter/Speedrun community lol. The reason it's so good imo is because it's noob friendly so that new players can feel like mini wizards combining elements and be satisfied simply seeing the outcome, and veteran players can get into the meat and potatoes. Stuff like elemental gauge, tougher tech like Guoba double swirl, or dragonstriking, complex rotations that require good timing and line up perfect when you get it right. That doesn't even get into team building, which is my- and many others' favourite part of the ordeal. Happening upon a team that lines up right is really euphoric, my favorite one recently is: Furina, Tighnari, Nahida, Kuki (honestly pretty basic but I like it). If you just throw out abilities randomly or even just go down the line using the characters, it's gonna be awful. But weaving between the skills, bursts and charge attacks then swapping right back to Furina knowing her burst just came off cd right on time has a wonderful rhythm to it. Is it ultimately simpler mechanically speaking? Yep, but so is League and Dota (unless you play something like Lee Sin or Meepo). But I'm sure we're not gonna say that LoL and Dota of all games are lacking depth. The difference doesn't inherently make Genshin or WuWa better, they're just different. A true problem is the shoddy auto targeting, *that* is a downside. And then there's stuff I didn't touch on like how Genshin's more neglected members of the roster can have these super cool niche use cases because a their element, weapon type, specific kit details, funny interactions- I'm gonna stop now. Either way, I prefer the story, environments and music of Genshin, aside from combat, that's what I'm here for. These things are why I don't care much for Primos, if they just do those parts right, I don't really care about much else. But some people really value feeling appreciated by developers, or want a lot of characters as that is more fun for them But some don't care about player-dev interactions, and some don't want a bunch of characters as it's overwhelming to build them all. Almost everything is preference, so I don't think it's right to say something like: "Genshin has no endgame, therefore bad", when many people actually like the flow of not doing very much outside of archon quests (I'd personally like some more, and I think they could and are looking to carefully add more without stressing the hyper casual audience to tryhard for more primos). That's ultimately who Hoyo has in mind anyway. There are improvements to be made though, artifact grind is still immense, weapon banner is still straight garbage, some more endgame fun for the dedicated playerbase (like they've been doing with the new local legends and Wayob trials, or no-buff runs of Imaginarium Theatre- which are quite fun imo), no skip button????? But yeah, I don't think that those ultimately make the game as a whole worse, just an aspect of it.

[@EtherealRune]

It's not even a competition.

[@Emptiness771]

🛑 day dreaming wuwa can't even convince players to play wuwa genshin is way better

[@theGreatAM13]

WuWa as a new game should be better than Genshin, if not, no reason to leave Genshin

[@DT-bo1zk]

Genshin's combat has the reactions but severely lack the interactions, i believe turning rock into magnet with electric can do thousands of things, if you watch Avatar you can see how much potential Genshin wastes away.

[@ceobe108]

My issue is just WuWa worlds and units look so dead. The lack of color honestly pushes me away from trying that game. I've been playing alot of HSR over Genshin and gave ZZZ a try.

[@GaliBurton]

Lmao blud clearly hasn't played it firmament and black shores

[@ceobe108]

@@GaliBurton Does that update make the zone look better?

[@GenshinKnight1]

@@ceobe108 Nope, the black shores is dark and gloomy. It is not exciting at all.

[@rexconnor9899]

​​@@ceobe108easily

[@PonderMINGY]

​@@ceobe108ignore the genshin bot

[@gaminglexiconwizard]

Bro purposely wants to start war

[@kisumsoyu]

wuthering waves is better for people who started genshin late because they are lazy to catch up

[@shironasama0445]

Facts

[@thisiswrathspeaking2057]

insane L lmao

[@Nikuzo]

It's preference when it comes down to it, people like genshin and people like wuwa. Some like both so just play the game homies.

[@LightofJoshua]

Yea fuck playing through sumeru

[@Fluskar]

Most wuthering waves have played both games for a long time dawg

[@24Vittorio]

I got all my characters without spending, love you kuro

[@saahil0855]

Every WuWa fan's goal in life is to prove why WuWa is a better game than Genshin on the internet....🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have seen like 20 videos discussing this topic on my youtube feed. WuWa needs constant validation from the player base.👍👍

[@石動リク]

As a genshin player i totally agree that ww is a better game. The thing is Im already attached to genshin as if its a toxic relationship. Im so deep to switch gatcha game now.

[@matthewbutler678]

Ok. Good video but the opinion is just cherry picking to be honest. First of all, devs section and generous rewards section should just be one section as they both talk about extremely similar points. Second of all, world exploration might feel less painful in wuthering waves due to its stamina bar, but I can’t help but notice you leave out the actual environment in your analysis. Genshin’s actual environment and aethetic has next to no competition in the field and has been a main praising point for genshin players you overlooked. Exploration is a massive part of an open world game (no duh) and so the environment you explore is a massive point for genshin, I’m sorry but wuthering waves is not even close in that category. It’s bleak, dark, and barely has variety in its locations. Another thing you blatantly ignored in your section on story is why a skip button in wuthering waves was added so quickly in the first place. The story is not engaging at all and while I’m sure the voice actors are talented in their elements, this just isn’t it. The game itself is less refined in all areas and it shows in everything apart from combat (including the need to show off the combat system in their endgame content thus necessitating the need for harder content) and wish related mechanics. Also if you wanna say there’s no argument on what’s better between echo’s and artifacts that’s just blatantly false. Echos are a fun and engaging take on artifacts as a whole that introduces using them in combat as well as getting them from world exploration a bit like Pokémon. It’s innovative and interesting nature, however, falls flat when you realise the grind for perfect artifacts requires much more effort given the need to walk around already explored areas looking for a specific type of enemy that has a small chance of giving you what you want. Keep in mind this is the DAILY LOOP on top of your dailies, resin, ect. Genshin, on the other hand trades boredom for ease of completion with its resin being spent on the only way to attain a consistent flow of artifacts therefore becoming part of the daily loop with no extra effort. While fun in concept, soon echos will become dull just like the artifacts in genshin and the gameplay loop will be even more drawn out and boring for the sake of short term enjoyment.Which is another point I’d like to bring up. How new is wuthering waves compared to genshin? How long have you been doing the daily loop and watching the updates go by on wuthering waves compared to genshin? We are still very much in the honeymoon phase of wuthering waves which adds bias to everyone’s opinions of it. Character design, voice acting, world building and lore, etc etc. these are things genshin beats wuthering waves in but were not mentioned for the sake of cherry picking. And as for the extra rewards you get in wuthering waves compared to genshin, maybe it’s to draw a line and differentiate itself from its one and only competitor (genshin) and is a desperate attempt to keep players interested and playing their game. In the first few weeks of the game release many issues were found and raised, these issues were worked on and given (in my opinion) overcompensation in an attempt to keep players playing given their massive starting player base. Genshin players (myself included) looked to this game as the next big thing and we played it endlessly when it first came out. Week after week rewards kept coming and I honestly believe I didn’t have a single day when I didn’t get either a 5 star or a full ten pull in compensation. This did the opposite of what it was meant to do for one main reason. What’s the point of playing a gacha game I have all the characters for? Why be a gacha at all? This is why I and many others became bored and began to play less and less. Gachas are moneygrabs by nature or else they risk the fan base becoming bored with all the characters in the game and nothing to work towards. There is a middle point that genshin is just now tapping into with the new natlan region and I’m excited moving forward with the absolutely massive quality of life changes given to us this update and hopefully many future updates to come. Again good video man but if you want to try and make a comparison video, make one that looks at both sides as objectively as possible. Genshin and wuthering waves both have their strongsuits but there is a reason genshin (while controversial and hated even among its player base) has retained player attention and stayed on top even now.

[@kaffewomble1288]

Highly agree with the environment aesthetic part I've yet to find a place in wuwa that was breathtaking black shores was just ok in that department The first moment of that breathtaking experience in genshin for me was when we encounter that blue floating spear in the chasm that moment changed my views on environmental aesthetics there are also many places in genshin where you just put the controller aside and just enjoy the view

[@Atmo-sp]

Most of what you said are the opposite of what you are asking for aka objectivity. Its ether simply subjectivity, just your preference like for exemple the environment, the character design or just plain misunderstanding or bs. Saying Wuthering waves is bleak, dark and barely has variety in its location is totaly a lie. There is a rocky desert corrupted area, post apocalytic city area, swamp area, forest area, mine area, city area, port area etc.. and they look completly different from others. And that's whitout adding the 2 new map area of 1.1 and 1.3. The swamp area is not dark, its litteraly full of floor with a big yeallow light in the middle, exactly like the post apocalyptic city with red flowers, the forest that transform with a realy big sakura type of tree... Sure there is dark areas, Genshin also have some but Genshin is mostly just same color everywhere without almost any contrast. From 1.0 to 1.6 in Genshin all we had is just green, flower, wood and rocks (and some annoying snow) You can prefere it but that's just it, your preference. Then comes the basic explanation of skip button from Genshin players. But the reality is the story of Genshin is not that good. People made fun of it during the 2 first years and the only response given by Genshin players was "but the lore !" The reality is Hi3, Arkinght and many other gacha games have better stories and.. a skip button. At the end the story is also a subjective thing anyway. And the skip button is offered to people that don't want to read or just don't like it. If you don't like the Genshin story or part of it (f the aragnagna thingy) you ether spam your button, mouse or finger or just stop playing. You are the one that talked about dailies etc... At the start and for a long time this quest could have multiple dialogue that you couldn't skip even if you already saw it, if that's not a boring thing added to your daily loop i don't know what it is. Next comes the Echo system, the fact that you thing grind for perfect artifact require more effort just show that you don't play the game or didn't play more than a month. Added that, if you want you can litteraly play it the same way you play Genshin outside of the fact that you'll receive numerous echos with the good main stat from event to help you even further. The overworld grind for echos is just an added opportunity for people that want to do it not an obligation for end game echos with good stats. Its realy easy to have your complete sets with good stats that you can exchange with other chars even in ToA (abyss). Sure you could think at first glance that its basically the same as Genshin and get borring with time, and yes the grind and building of the echo system can end being as boring as Genshin system. But Genshin system end here, when in comparaison the echos system goes way behound that. Its part of the combat system, have its little meta around it, have different application like in the various events we got recently with co op or the illusive realm where echos have different use than in the rest of the game and nothing attached to the grind. Then it saden me to see that you and other genshin players managed to come to a point where you prefere a more predatory gacha because and i quote "What’s the point of playing a gacha game I have all the characters for? Why be a gacha at all?" What is this argument ? Are you telling me you are litteraly happy to not have all the characters that you wanted ? If that the case, you can choose to not pull.. Just saying.

[@matthewbutler678]

@@Atmo-sp the environment is barely subjective at all and saying wuthering waves is on par with genshin in its variety and contrast is just plain ignorant (no offence). I can’t believe I have to explain why that is any more than simply stating wuthering waves is bleak. The filter in wuthering waves is inherently darker and removes a lot of the colour that makes genshin stand out. 1.0 to 1.6 included not only two very different regions that were different in not only exploration required (liyue has a shit ton of Rocks and mountains, mondstadt is a relatively flat land and is probs the most basic of the regions but still beautiful. Not to mention The cities are much more involved and memorable. As for the story, my argument was not that genshin story was legendary but that wuthering waves is far from decent. Maybe the actual storyline is ok but I’ll never know because the execution of it all was so unbelievably boring that I don’t think anyone actually pays attention. I applaud the game for its innovative combat and actual design in many aspects but it took away from their time in making the story actually bearable. That’s why there is a skip button being implemented so quickly as to keep players attention on the strong points of the game, a great marketing decision. You brought up some good points on the echo system but I also have to point out that even with all of the extra intricacies of it compared to the artifact system in genshin, when time passes and people soon get bored of the grind, it will become a bigger slog then genshin already is. But until that time the echo system is better for the most part. And finally your point on “choosing not to pull so I don’t have all the characters” is ignoring the purpose for not just mine but a lot of others frustration with it’s generosity. Again, I don’t like the way gacha games do their practises but being overly generous harms the game more than helps it. When given everything on a silver platter, it sets a precedent for more rewards and when those expectations aren’t met constantly from now on, people will believe the company is becoming “stingy.” As for your comment on just not pulling, it’s not that I don’t want as many characters as possible, it’s that I want to earn these characters myself without the excessive rewards and compensation. It feels weird to complain about rewards and compensation but it’s the same principle as an overly spoiled child who grew up without a single issue. They will believe this is the norm and won’t want to do things the normal way everyone else does things.

[@cris9485]

I 100% agree with all points you made except some minor adds from me. The world should look bleak and deserted since the world is indeed corrupted by the retroract rain and the sudden wormholes always engulf zones without any kind of warning as stated in Shorekeeper's new quest. Aside that i agree completely with all the other points. Running around for echoes is more tiring than just going in a domain and grabbing the artifacts. Characters in Genshin are definitely not as sharp as the ones in Wuwa because one its made with 3d engine and the other is not. On the other hand the world immersion is wayy better in genshin. The so called generosity most people do not realise its how Kuro kept their playerbase no matter how small. PGR,their other game is the proof the game is hanging by a thread with the old playerbase but the playerbase keeps going down every month. As u mentioned its a Gacha Game, its meant to be pricey thats how Gacha games survive and more importantly thrive. WuWa has worse revenue every month. Game is good but it slowly dies due to "generosity".

[@Morkibay]

​@@matthewbutler678 saying that genshin story is good is a stupid take ngl. It's decent at best, like Wuthering waves story. Nothing sticks and especially Paimon just ruins everything by stating the most obvious stuff at any time. The graphics in my opinion are generally better than genshin's graphics. that's only personal preference though. The only problem i have is that Kuro decided to set the brightness (gamma) to the middle. Lowering that settings make the color pop more. Open world grind in Wuwa can get boring yeah, but the tacet fields are more than enough to grind for echoes. Mallable echoes also help a lot (i still have 6 of them and don't have to use them as of now).

[@tondossama810]

Man just spat fax and leave, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT !!!!!!!!!!

[@jashanemo]

Genshin :- story/lore Wuwa :- gameplay , animations , anime type fight , best devs , any many many many more

[@FireBlueZ]

Gameplay: Subjective Animation: Half true, WuWa have better gameplay combat animation, but not the cutscene animation. Anime fight type: ??? Best devs: Arguable, but true I guess

[@jashanemo]

@@FireBlueZ i mean the combat is very quick and excellent like u can dodge , parry , and the characters are good too

[@Thorfinxs]

​@@FireBlueZbro have you not seen fight been crownless and player? Have you not seen that kuro devs listen unlike hoyo devs. Have you not seen genshin is abusing almost the same animations in cutscenes for 4 years?

[@FireBlueZ]

​@@Thorfinxs No? WuWa battle cutscene is just okay, not great. I'll say they did better job with CBT1 cutscene in comparison to the official release. And I don't really understand the part of "abusing same animation", but it's natural for studio to use the same basic recipe for their cutscene especially when it comes to effects. This creates a recognizable style, the same way Ufotable did with their animation. Let me tell ya why Genshin combat cutscene animation is superior in comparison to WuWa - More dynamic camera pov that follow the hand of the combatant - The combat is fast paced, but you can actually see what's happening which create a great hype - Top tier transition technique - There is weight in swings - Better sound design (Weird cuz WuWa non-cutscene have better sound design) Visually, both are as good with their respective artstyle, though I'll give WuWa the upper hand for always doing a masterpiece job with lighting in any important cutscene. Genshin just started to evolve on the lighting with Alrecchino and Clorinde story cutscene. The only cutscene which I'll give 10/10 in WuWa is the final Shorekeeper cutscene. Everything about that cutscene is just perfect. They just have far more to go with the battle cutscene.

[@tristanjoseph_tv4574]

After playing Wuwa for quite sometime, and back to genshin i feel like the facing it too slow,especially the exploration

[@kyphrin]

The story skip with a summery being added is great, but the lack of a Paimon is amazing for when you're reading the story as well. It really allows the MC to be an actual character (from about act 4 on) rather than letting something talk for them constantly. Probably my second favorite gacha MC at this point behind HSR's MC.

[@silverash896]

Genshin gave players free 5-star character and fake QoL to fool their players because there’s a competitor on the way, while Wuwa gave players free 5-star character(s) because they genuinely care about their players. They are not the same.

[@ChrisUchiha7]

They both want your money and have overpriced Characters and weapons, they are the same.

[@silverash896]

@@ChrisUchiha7 That's like saying every human is the same because they all need to eat to survive.

[@Marie_La_Fatale]

Why compare when you can play them both.

[@ChrisUchiha7]

Me Waiting for Camellya and Xilonen in both games:😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@GaliBurton]

Wuwa is so much better than genshin that its not even funny at this point. Much better graphics, gameplay and the world building is far superior. I notice genshit babies crying here xD😂😂😂

[@GenshinKnight1]

We are still waiting for WuWa to go EoS and Kuro go bankrupt, that's what happens when you bad mouth about Hoyoverse and make Dawei cry

[@PonderMINGY]

​@@GenshinKnight1Oh look its the alt back. Welcome back hoyodog

[@skrypnykk.770]

world building? sorry but wuwa currently has awful world building compared to every gacha game i have played in, combat and graphics are the only strong sides of wuwa unfortunately. I prefer games with interesting story and charactersm, while wuwa 1.0-1.2 were just horrible in that aspect. 1.3 i liked more but beautifull animations and cutscenes made most of work obviously

[@MisoMow]

@@GenshinKnight1 Dawei makes me cry by not listening to players. (I mean its hoyo that does than not Dawei). I want to like Genshin but the more I play the more disappointed I feel. There are things they could do to make the game better but they just don't. Its like they only care about making money not making a truly great game.

[@renzcapulong4221]

@@PonderMINGY bro he's just rage bait