Kenjaku vs Toji - Who Would Win?

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[@loslobo_]

jogo clears

[@explosivegrape]

Sukuna and Gojo got carried by plot armour when facing Jogo.

[@paulnguyen3749]

@@explosivegrape please explain?

[@explosivegrape]

@@paulnguyen3749 no

[@purpleguy6837]

@@explosivegrape chad

[@gnowmansangster]

So true jogoat best character written oat

[@overhaul.-.]

If I’m remembering correctly, Toji used the Soul Splitting Katana against Rainbow Dragon- which is presumably how he was able to bisect it so easily despite it being Geto’s most durable curse

[@eldeuls1237]

Soul splitting katana is his weapon of choice to counter geto while spear is for Gojo Notice his only using the katana fighting geto and his curses, because no matter what kind of curse geto unleashed it’ll be cut like butter So yeah his not only prepared to fight gojo but also geto

[@fg009letyrds8]

​​@@eldeuls1237Which is Toji's greatest strength, he's meticulous and great at planning and making preparations on how to deal his targets in the most efficient way. Reminder that the main reason he got killed is because he thrown those advantages away because his pride and hatred of Jujutsu Society got in the way. We already know Kenjaku's scared of Current Maki, who we know is equal to Toji in terms of Physical Stats, she now just lacking in strategy and tactics compared to Toji and even then Maki isn't a slouch in that area either.

[@FEMTO-jk6ph]

It’s funny how you talk about maki saying “we can’t defeat kenjaku by conventional means”. In the newest chapters we have the most unconventional fighter (Takaba) going head to head with Kenny, and now Takaba has his confidence back…. 👀👀😆

[@Bob.0-0boing]

Takaba getting ran through tho

[@dazai5315]

i wouldn't call that head to head tho , a domain expansion and takaba is gone

[@seanbrown7083]

Head to head??? Dude has not landed a SINGLE hit on kenjaku and was about to die 😭

[@coolbeans3752]

Takaba is getting off screen.

[@dazai5315]

@@coolbeans3752 he won't , he lasted more than kashimo , he'll make kenny spit his guts out of laughter then die like a hero

[@DDCDV010]

The idea of the inverted spear of heaven only neutralizing near the tip of the spear is silly since that would mean that Toji's hand would still have been affected by infinity, meaning the spear wouldn't have worked anyways. It's more likely that the tip of the spear breaks the curse technique in general, meaning effects that surround their user like Infinity and Anti-Gravity System would be popped like a bubble, but techniques like red which are small points of energy would be basically impossible to break.

[@oreos2653]

Its the blade, not the tip end so any sharp part

[@Celestial-rn4vm]

Where did we ever see Toji being caught in the infinite void or in any domains except that of Geto while wielding the inverted spear of heaven ?

[@oreos2653]

@@Celestial-rn4vm hes caught in the domain of one of those cursed spirits

[@Celestial-rn4vm]

@@oreos2653 What cursed spirit. And did he have the inverted spear of heaven at him?

[@Celestial-rn4vm]

@@Julian.noa21 And i was originaly reffering to this: "hat would mean that Toji's hand would still have been affected by infinity, meaning the spear wouldn't have worked anyways" of the original comment.

[@Mooki66]

Great video😲🤭

[@serpentsfist]

I think kenjakus domain might not be targeting cursed energy to begin with, plus he uses an open domain so tojis inability to be trapped in the shell is a non point. We saw with sukunas domain that it indiscriminately cuts everything within its range due to the nature of cleave and dismantle. Given that kenjakus CTR of Kaori's anti gravity hasn't been shown to require its target to have CE I think the open barries womb profusion could just crush anything in its range (tho tojis speed might allow him to escape)

[@romani5048]

the only only reason sukuna can use his domain on toji is because cleave is meant for inanimate objects (what toji classifies as), theres no real reason kenjakus domain sure hit should have a property that can target inanimate objects because thats not how domains work, sukunas is a unique case because part of his CT is made specifically for cutting objects

[@serpentsfist]

@@romani5048 I agree but we haven't actually been told by the story that gravity only affects living objects. An example of its ambiguity is when kenjaku used it to divert choso's supernovas which is just blood manipulated by CE. On one hand it couldve used the CE as a target but it may also just be an AOE attack that doesn't require a target to begin with

[@gonnaputsomedirtinyoureye2448]

​@@romani5048no where it was said that kenjaku's gravity ct doesn't target inanimate objects. We saw him applying his ct on choso's supernova which can be considered inanimate object. Although it could be said kenjaku's domain doesn't target inanimate objects cuz choso's blood is made out of his cursed energy thus being targeted by kenjaku ct. But given Kenjaku is the second best barrier user in the series he could change his domain conditions.

[@romani5048]

@@gonnaputsomedirtinyoureye2448 if it isn't explicitly made apparent that it can its pointless assuming it can bc atp its just "what ifs"

[@steveoh8036]

It depends on the condition of domain. Naoyas domain has a condition that cant hit a person with zero curse, not all domain is like that. Im certain that kenjakus domain would hit toji.

[@1hundred1]

I know my boy Guilha in here repping asap

[@hero303-gameplayindonesia8]

Yooo hundred

[@Dissolveee]

Damn the video we all deserved

[@Malthizar]

Toji is an assassin. He can't beat any top tier character in a head-on 1v1 and it's disrespectful to the character to act like he can. Toji fights in a very specific and very deliberate way. He's going to research Kenjaku, learn everything he can, and create a multi-pronged strategy that will last several hours/days before he ever actually strikes. In the case of Toji v Kenny, you'd have to factor in him sending Angel, Kusakabe, and Takaba FIRST before blind siding Kenjaku from a hidden vantage point. Unless you're willing to have that conversation, Toji will keep losing these shitty matchups because he's literally not built with that in mind

[@o-vq1ix]

Facts

[@pspsmallz]

Agree, with his physical stats and prep he can potentially beat anyone in the series but raw stats in a 1v1 head on is an instant loss against any of the top tiers

[@GOJOANDSUKUNAFAN]

​@@pspsmallzhe can't beat true form current sukuna even with all shits I don't think one attack from soul splitting attack is one shotting him also there is no weapon that is saving him from kings domain also sukuna was caught off-guard by maki it's literally a if toji could one shit him with prep cause if not then if sukuna realises that he dosent have curse energy he is done sukuna opens a domain and one shots 💀

[@extravirginoliveoil2012]

hes like batman he needs prep time

[@ahmadkazan5473]

@@GOJOANDSUKUNAFAN sakuna's domain is the biggest piece of overrated garbage in the series.Gojo tanked it like nothing so the physical top tiers with decent rct are not instantly shredded and it's only 200m and everyone right now can probably run faster than march 1 aka escape more than 200m before sakuna does a hand sign,also the soul split should one shot him if it's a head slash though sakuna haas the stats to dodge a telegraphed attack like that and gege has been comprimising consistency to push the story.

[@drsh1711]

The buff inside a domain is heavily implied to be an environment type, like how Infinite void is a big open space that Gojo would prefer, Dagon's domain with sea or Jogo's with the lava and volcanoes so by that logic Kenjaku would get zero buffs in a domain since open domain doesn't have an environment

[@slinux8420]

Would make sense since Sukuna wasn't over powering Gojo completely in his domain when he broke it the first time

[@Zokalex]

Idk man. Megumi gets his CT to 120%

[@slinux8420]

@@Zokalex good point but his domain is also incomplete and he does flood the area in shadows/with his curse energy and create an environment.

[@InIt4TheMemez]

Ya but what about domains like sukuna which target anything regardless of curse energy or not. Kenny’s is the same way, being barrier less. Only ones in the series like that. Now megumi has one but it’s incomplete and he needs enclosed surroundings to utilize its potential

[@huntershurley4331]

@@Zokalexmegumi’s domain still has an environment. What’re you talking about lil bro?💀

[@upinipincocomelon]

the winner is me,the first comment (jogo)

[@xmere]

W

[@shatt3rzion]

babe wake up, new mere vid

[@invaded.official6772]

I like to point out something maybe you wouldn't have thought of cuz Kenjaku's and Sukuna' domain expansion have no barriers instead they have an area they attack even tho it was never started for Kenjaku. But for Sukuna it was meant that it attacks EVRYTHING in the area, I think it's the same for Kenjaku as he also covers an area cuz he can't just attack evryone who has CE surrounding his Domain. Something like that

[@purpleguy6837]

even dagons domain which is a classic domain he chose the target of the sure hit effect and deonly couldnt hit toji bcz megumis domain was in the way sure hit effects work on ppl with no cursed energy just like we saw maki accept the conditions of the sumo guy's domain

[@seanbrown7083]

Sukunas only attacks everything in its area bc of the nature of his CT cleave and dismantle

[@JunkSync]

@@purpleguy6837 in dagon's case that's only what he thought, and since he didn't know anything about toji, he probably was also just wrong about that.

[@JunkSync]

@@purpleguy6837 in dagon's case that's only what he thought, and since he didn't know anything about toji, he probably was also just wrong about that.

[@SlickEvan]

This.

[@BrunofanofK]

Sukuna's Domain target living objects with dismantle, so it is a closed case it can target people with heavenly restriction, Kenjaku knows about Maki so it is possible for him to alter the conditions of his domain like Gojo and Sukuna did. He might even be capable of copying Gojo's burnout refresh like Sukuna did.

[@fadedcrayon4764]

Kenny getting packed up

[@guilha1506]

Kenjaku opens his domain, picks a rock, puts cursed energy into that rock, throws the rock at Toji and targets the rock with his sure hit, crushing Toji on the process.

[@darthcaliginous2066]

That makes no sense

[@guilha1506]

@@darthcaliginous2066 It does, Kenjaku’s sure hit has an area of effect

[@MRBJW28]

No no he’s got a point, the main problem is toji speed

[@guilha1506]

@@MRBJW28 Kenjaku can just surround Toji with curses and target his own curses and hit Toji because of the area of effect

[@Blackjesus327]

@@guilha1506you got a good point with that last comment.

[@lance2304]

3:53 okay some severe yuki downplay , considering that yuki held back MASSIVELY because she over-relied on tengen, it can be argued that yuki would have won. Yuki never activated her DE in order to play along with tengens plan. Kenjaku himself stated that if tengen and yuki hadn't suppressed it yuki's black hole attack would have killed him

[@xmere]

Yea she didnt open her DE and they came up with a plan to attack Kenjaku’s together because Kenjaku is the SECOND most powerful barrier user in the world, she would have just lost if she tried to clash. Also he never said the black hole would have killed him, and even if he had, what does the black hole have to do with the fight ending back when I said it wouldve, which it would have if she was solo. It can’t be argued Yuki wouldve won all the arguments make no sense.

[@i.i368]

We need to stop blaming tengen for Yuki loss. Tengen literally warned Yuki about kenjaku being the second best barrier user. And tells Yuki kenjaku likely doesn't have a normal domain. And Yuki ignores it. And she would have lost the domain clash due to kenjaku being open domain

[@Pqihtyieojn12]

You do realize that yuukibwould have gotten demolished without tengen's help right, with or without her domain?

[@xmere]

@@i.i368 thank you king

[@xmere]

@@Pqihtyieojn12 keep spitting facts king

[@kabelosithole1188]

I think a domain would work because we saw how Gojo and Sukuna could change their domain parameters to their liking, plus Sukunas domain targets objects and things without CT. Kenjaku is the best domain user in the verse right now so he could definitely win with a domain

[@marlonmenicable-lr5ix]

Toji is a hell dffrnt opponent

[@saawysorenson4585]

I think that intel in this fight is even more important for Toji than for other sorcerers. If Toji knows what he is going into similar to Gojo, then I can imagine him giving a good fight. Like imagine Toji clipping to Soul Split on his chain, swinging it around to avoid the gravity while defening with ISOFH, then Kenjaku lets him cut his arm or smt as a bait, because he couldnt defend while healing, but instead he just taps him on the forehead and crushes him to the ground, finishing with a full on max uzumaki or something. My point is, they can both get killer really quickly and easily by the other so it would be a battle of attrition and wits.

[@Blackjesus327]

Earlier a guy said the craziest comment, and with kenjaku being the super genius that he is, he would definitely do this. His domain has no barrier so it doesn’t need permission from toji for him ti enter, as the domain is brought into reality. Then he can send out his curse spirits ti swarm everywhere and target the ones close to toji with his domains sure hit and use the area of effect to hit toji

[@soltragedy5010]

That’s a totally viable strategy

[@Hellblazer-ds1bn]

I think we are ignoring one big thing kenjaku used cursed technique reversal as a sure hit This level of jujutsu was way High

[@rygua924726]

Yusuke vs Yuji plz

[@LICENFIREFEAR]

It would be a epic fight

[@Dissolveee]

MERE TO 100K BEFORE JULY 2024 GANG!!!

[@xmere]

YESSIRRR

[@sourpatch4746]

I think between Toji and Ken Jacoo it would be like a battle of plans like chest because even when Toji killed the star plasma vessel and almost killed Gojo. He had it all planned out from the beginning and ken jacoo is just ken jacoo

[@clinged2711]

I kinda wanted toji vs adult geto but ig i can live with this

[@RaymarFootball]

Gonna have to disagree on how quickly she would have lost without Tengen because the reason she had to tank Kenjaku’s DE is because of Tengens terrible plan

[@KANA_VR_]

No she definitely would’ve lost quicker, she wouldn’t know Kenjakus Gravity move thanks to Choso and Kenjaku domain is open so it’ll beat out closed ones

[@kylekylelam3870]

Honestly, Yuki would clearly came out on top had Tengen's plan didn't dragged her legs.

[@A1phaz0ne]

Was it ever explained why Kenjaku was able to defend against Yuki's CT (Mass) enhanced attacks? She blew through his arms on the first hit. Then after that, it was as if he was just blocking normal attacks. Did she stop enhancing her attacks with mass? Or did he just use reinforcement on himself to the point that it didn't matter? Which, if that's the case, I find that really hard to believe. Because in theory, she should be able to reinforce her own attack with cursed energy in the same way, but then also have the additional mass behind it. Maybe I overlooked something in that fight.

[@Nero_9000]

Toji Zenin; Snoop Dogg: Who

[@VIC-jk2qd]

Kenjaku is my favorite character. I kinda want him to win

[@detrimental5190]

All of tojis weapons have the capability of killing kenjaku

[@steveoh8036]

Why people keep saying domain cant recognize a zero curse heavenly restricted person when its just a condition on naoya's domain that doesnt recognize a person with zero curse

[@loveqeeb8643]

kenjakus domain will work because it is open barrier so it jus attacks anything not specifically targeting things with cursed energy like a regular domain

[@clashwithbijoy8825]

Getos mini uzumaki killed special grade like nothing....demnn only if he had his domain & RCT 🔥

[@KrowzerOfLight]

I feel like saying Kenjaku's domain would not work on Toji is a bit presumptuous. We don't really know what his domain is or can do. It's also an open domain, which means the fact Toji can't be trapped doesn't really matter. Because of those things I say you have to look to Sukuna's domain, it's open and it has the ability to hit things with and without CE. If Kenjaku has a similar setup it could be an easy win. I do feel like Toji has speed that could out pace Kenjaku, as well as being more blood thirty than other fighters. Regardless I would agree that Kenjaku is most likely to win, but I feel with the above information that win could be more for sure.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Kenjaku for sure, his domain should work on Toji too since it's an open domain so it can't use the barrier that most domains have to automatically target those with cursed energy, it has to either attack everything in range or the targets have to be manually chosen which would work on Toji

[@samuraituff9653]

No it wouldn't

[@soltragedy5010]

All kenjaku actually has to do is imbue objects with cursed energy and toss them at Toji then his domain works regardless of toji being unrecognizable.

[@godlyomen10]

YOOOO

[@diamantemrobinson]

You can individually target someone in a domain so Kenjaku still wins

[@cakeknight6269]

PLEASE WHAT IS THE BACKGROUND MUSIC 😭😭

[@sexyman7840]

Who killed Kenny? Not toji

[@PlayfulCloud3]

soul split katana counters reverse curse technique. it could be compared to idle transfiguration, directly damaging the soul which cant be healed from. toji didnt use the katana against gojo bc of infinity.

[@i.i368]

Gojo healed from the blade slash. Naoya heals from its injuries when he got hit by daido. It's not that you can't heal from it. It is something that ignores defense. Mahito ideal transfiguration doesn't damage you directly it reshapes you.

[@explosivegrape]

Soul katana not being healed is headcanon in the fan base. Multiple things contradict it.

[@om9959]

​@@explosivegrapewhy shoko unable to heal angel hands cut by sukuna.Not counting you should be capable of seeing soul to use kitana at 100%.Maki wasnt mastered her at that time until end where he literally he one shots.

[@PlayfulCloud3]

@@explosivegrape name 1

[@PlayfulCloud3]

@@i.i368 gojo was never hit by the soul split katana

[@shepardice3775]

3:13 Yuki never landed another hit? What??? She landed multiple kicks, an elbow strike and 2 punches straight to the dome unguarded that 100% should've killed Plotjaku but Gege decided to randomly nerf her CT mid fight

[@karvzv]

because she just took a domain and was weaked its clear her output of her ct wasnt the same the same exact thing happend to gojo later in sukunas fight his output weakend but he gained it back by saying chants

[@hugosawe4993]

​@@karvzvIf her CT output is so low then how come she is able to strengthen it to create black hole?

[@karvzv]

just like mei mei said making a Binding Vow with one's own life as the trade-off is the fastest way to raise ones level as a sorcerer yuki probably gave up on winning and put her all into that black hole@@hugosawe4993

[@pitoseavy4523]

Keep coping he fought yuki choso tengen in a 1 vs 3 & won yall can keep crying about plot but even in a 2 vs 1 h2h had the upper hand used curse ct reversal anti-gravity to knock down choso & yuki shikigami while using a mini uzimaki to blast yuki multiple times and used his gravity ct to survive keep coping

[@thegreatsf]

@@pitoseavy4523 all this and bro still got speed blitzed by some gag character and an asian kid LOL

[@rj5726]

The only thing I can imagine toji winning this is by doing “poke” run in hit Kenny with soul splitter then running away and keeping his distance then come back and repeat but I really doubt it’ll work because it seems Kenny has higher stamina.

[@waffle-234]

I do believe that Kenjaku can and likely would beat Toji,however i'd take into account mentality. Maki herself was just realized and still getting a grasp on what she could do meanwhile Toji has been this way pretty much all his life and even in the face of an awakened Gojo he believes he had a chance. Even Sukuna said mentality is a major factor,as did Gojo as well. So i wonder if Maki was either downplaying herself cuz Yuki lost or is just taking the safest option in reguards to facing Kenjaku.

[@ricksanchez7648]

I don't think people should put people again toji like a 1v1 bc just like batman and superman batman needs to prepare I think people should ask could toji beat this character if he prepared bc Toji just like batman studies his enemy as much as he can then comes out with a plan on how to beat the character.

[@Giffandaman]

Toji is Batman he just needs prep time

[@guyhathansaintil5218]

slight correction i believe makis is a model but tojis is the og split soul katana

[@nzuz169]

Kenjaku stomps low diff. Kenjaku is the 3rd strongest in the verse rn toji is maybe 8th. Kenjaku gas rct, a domain, the most versatile ct, is probably the smartest character is the series and has a lot of ce. Toji is maybe a little faster and that’s all he has over Kenjaku. He also has curse tools but if Kenjaku is able to avoid a direct hit from Yuki then after he saw her ct, then toji is not touching Kenjaku. Toji is not that guy. He doesn’t want this fight.

[@brandon1687]

can you do Toji vs Jogo, i've seen people discussing alot about this fight and consider the other videos of yours, ur analysis is very logical and all the information is manga-based. i think a video from u would be enough to end the discussion

[@TheMesseng]

I still think toji would lose against jogo because IF jogo ever were to do his domain expansion toji would still get clapped CE or not because although toji may not be effected by the sure hit/sure kill effect he would definitely be effected by pure lava/heat, they would be burned instantly just by the activation of the domain.. jogo's domain is the inside of a volcano

[@brandon1687]

@@TheMesseng manga chapter 15, jogo said a normal sorcerer will usually get burnt to ashes when he lays foot into the Domain Yes? but Toji is no "normal sorcerer", the Heavenly Restriction allows him to walk freely through the barrier of the Domain (chapter 198 stated this), he can't be stuck inside a domain and with his crazy speed, i'm quite confident to say he can just speed blitz his way out of there. Even Naoya in his cursed form who had a speed of Mach 3 had a rough time locating Maki in his own Domain, and he can't lay a single blow on Maki. P/S: The reason why i mentioned Maki is because Toji and Maki are basically the same so they definitely shares the same feat.

[@heatran1919]

I wonder how the inverted spear of heaven would interact with Kenjaku's body stealing technique. Would one good stab just sever his connection to Getos body? Or would you actually need to stab him in the brain for that to work?

[@odontoxins3223]

Best question in the comments.

[@anikaleung7778]

toji was still standing and talking after PURPLE from gojo. Don't forget the worm thingy though, That thing, will it help toji, or kenjaku, because i forgot, is it because he revived or was always here. cuz if he revived kenjaku will have the worm.

[@jx8903]

Bro, he was donutted by that same Purple, what's your point 😭

[@aashas8553]

Unlike Sukuna, he doesn't pull stuff out of his ass, he takes them in. Thats why he's the throat goat. Kenjaku no diffs

[@shogoberik]

bro 💀

[@nothingtoseehere9648]

It's simple, the one who will win is the one the creator wants to win

[@explosivegrape]

Kenjaku’s curses alone violate Toji. Kenjaku won’t even need a technique (assuming he also has tools). Geto is getting his afterlife get back. This monkey is cooked.

[@mr.lucky56]

Bruh read the manga

[@mr.lucky56]

I don’t know about kenjaku but Toji will beat any curse spirit

[@explosivegrape]

@@mr.lucky56 Even 10 million? Cope.

[@Boxhead16]

A curse from kenjaku is getting killed

[@sladelius6174]

Small brain energy. 😂

[@JustJeff777]

Put some respect on Tojis name

[@Zee_Raho]

I think toeji will get bodied fr like he's only 3 finger level and Kenny would be like 8 to 9 finger level

[@tobisenpai5953]

People keep sayin he lasted longer than kashimo but Sukuna wouldnt even give takaba the chance to do shit LMAO

[@AntoniaPylarinos]

I believe takaba will be holding off ken long enough for him not to pay attention to maki pullin up, then with maki beating him making him prolly switch bodies w the bomb guy or another dead person, freeing getos body but still keepin kenny alive

[@BrianMiles755]

Correct me if im wrong, but Kenjaku and Sukuna could just spawn a domain without an outer shell, thats what makes them divine.

[@edmund1737]

Toji loses this pretty badly tbh. Kenny is just a better version of geto. Even if we put aside the domain he still wins. He scales to better characters. even maki doesn't think he can be defeated by conventional means after he beat yuki. If yuta beating kenny is questionable then toji stands no chance.

[@odontoxins3223]

Kenny couldn’t even beat Gojo 💀 tf u talking about, man is literally scared of Gojo

[@edmund1737]

@@odontoxins3223 yeah Kenny couldn’t beat a full powered ultra gojo who Toji lost to but in a much weaker and younger versions. What’s ur point? They’re both weaker than gojo but Kenny is significantly stronger than Toji.

[@odontoxins3223]

@@edmund1737 my point is Kenny is no where near a “better version of Gojo” not even close at all. Sukuna and Gojo are leagues above Kenny and he knows that.

[@edmund1737]

@@odontoxins3223 bro did you read what I wrote?😂I said “Geto”. Look at it again. Bruh.

[@SSjZGogitoTheFighter]

It .ay not ahbe worked on red casue its a curse technique reversal

[@user-bb8qz6nr2d]

Nah we went geto vs toji

[@Optclzr]

Something interesting though ( ik it hasent been stated) but Kenjaku's domain has damaged the physical surroundings, the only other domain to do this is Sukuna's who can hit physical targets aswell. I think Kenjaku's domain hits him aswell

[@darthcaliginous2066]

No it doesn’t, when Kenjaku used his domain everything in Tengens barrier had cursed energy, including the floor

[@fumky4768]

@@darthcaliginous2066what’s stopping Kenny from just swapping targets though? He’s clearly very savvy with barrier techniques

[@darthcaliginous2066]

@@fumky4768 Toji is able to ignore and bypass barriers since he has no cursed energy they treat him like a building. The culling game barriers are from Kenjaku and Maki can pass and exit out of them freely.

[@fumky4768]

@@darthcaliginous2066 do you not read what other people type? Sukuna swapped his domain so it could target “inanimate objects” (things with not ce). What’s stopping kenjaku from doing the same exact thing

[@darthcaliginous2066]

@@fumky4768 guaranteed hits aren’t guaranteed kills, just because you hit toji in a domain doesn’t mean it’s automatically over, thats why im ignoring what people are typing, we saw Toji in a domain and still come out on top, statements that apply to sorcerers dont apply to Toji and Maki. Im not reading what others are typing because its lazy conclusions, all they do is try to copy and paste previous fight outcomes and act like that’s exactly what will happen instead of realizing every encounter in JJK is not the same or ends the same. Inanimate objects dont have cursed energy to adjust to, Toji may be treated like a building in a domain but that doesn’t mean his durability is the exact same as a building or inanimate object that’s just how the domain sees him. Its been made clear numerous times Toji and Maki are anomalies in cursed energy and instead of recognizing they cant be taken down by normal means most fans write lazy contrived ways they can be taken out in fight

[@Grayson-Winchester]

Did Kenjaku really plan for Toji to be a thing? Toji's a flaw in Jujutsu society. His impact on Geto made him turn rouge and Yuta who killed him only for Kenny to grab his remains when people weren't looking. I know fate is a popular term in anime/manga but sometimes it feels natural for things to let them evolve on their own.

[@xooox_1777]

For me he didn't plan it, but took advantage of his existence as an anomaly. Edit: didn't plan his existence, but planned around his existence if ywim

[@juanhaines7295]

Yuta after he comes back vs awakened maki with her two swords.

[@thesage7314]

The Goat Yuta soloes the Hakari Slay-I mean Victim, Hakari Victim

[@EMP_Hakari]

@@thesage7314 lol Where is Yuta right now Always bet on hakari .

[@thesage7314]

@@EMP_Hakari You aren’t ready for when my goat appears. There’s a reason he’s called the insurance

[@PlayfulCloud3]

it would be awesome if maki can be upgraded through idle transfiguration giving her extra limbs like sukuna, allowing maki to handle multiple curse tool especially those that sukuna possess

[@lanceshadow7335]

@@thesage7314 Hakari clears that fodder

[@millionzekezeke7014]

what is name of background music?

[@shaddollunlimited7792]

The wounds naoya gave maki were internal injuries

[@basednbearded6493]

The mass you have the MORE you are affected by gravity. So him affecting garuda is not a feat

[@fatterperdurabo42069]

Toji can't even defeat Kenjaku in his realm of peak ability: child neglect

[@unendingvoid]

This isn't an argument tbh. A better comparison is Toji vs Adult Geto

[@xebec995]

Geto takes it

[@ITACHI-ib6cu]

nah a better thing would be toji vs yuta. toji violates adult geto

[@xebec995]

@@ITACHI-ib6cu geto mid diffs toji

[@ITACHI-ib6cu]

toji cooks and eats geto for dinner@@xebec995

[@Jason-qb1sq]

when its talking about domains its refering to domains with barriers. kenjaku doesn't actually have one so trapping her in isnt actually the issue. i think barrierless domains react diffrent compare to everyone elses

[@dude5281]

Sukunas is different because dismantle attacks inanimate objects, it has nothing to do with his domain being open, kenjakus domain has in no way been stated to attack inanimate objects

[@xooox_1777]

one correction, it's open barrier domain, not barrierless. And also Sukuna targets inanimate objects, and things that has CE with dismantle and Cleave, until Kenjaku further showcases feats of being able to target inanimate objects, only then can we say the same for Kenjaku

[@phillipsmith2201]

Maki and Toji can still be targeted by Kenjaku’s domain bc he doesn’t create an actual barrier. Maki and Toji would only be invisible to domains that trap opponents in an actual barrier.

[@fardin_king6817]

Actually I don't think that's how it works. It was stated that Dismantle targeted the Inanimate objects and not because the Domain was an Open Barrier one. So no Open Barrier Domains still shouldn't register Toji or Maki (Unless new information arrives)

[@phillipsmith2201]

@@fardin_king6817 It was stated that Kenjaku’s domain was just like Sukuna’s, heavily implying that he can target anything within his domain’s radius like how Sukuna could. Sukuna specifically used dismantle to target inanimate objects because unlike cleave, dismantle doesn’t adjust to a targets cursed energy to cut them down in one fell swoop.

[@fardin_king6817]

@@phillipsmith2201 Kenjaku's was like Sukuna's in nature/properties because it too was an open barrier Domain. When the narration was describing Sukuna's Domain it was stated that Dismantle was targeting inanimate objects. The narration didn't say that it was the Open Barrier that made it possible to target inanimate objects.

[@phillipsmith2201]

@@fardin_king6817 The nature/properties of an open barrier domain allows for them to target inanimate objects because the radius of their domains cover the surrounding area, which includes inanimate objects by default. The narrator describes this technique as being similar to painting a picture on thin air; instead of limiting the sure-hit technique (the painting) to a separate space comprised of CE (the canvas), the sure-hit technique is instead cast upon the surrounding area (thin air) comprised of beings both with and without cursed energy. If Kenjaku wanted to bring a building down with his domain expansion, he very well could as long as it can be contained in its effective radius.

[@fardin_king6817]

@@phillipsmith2201 SUKUNA HAS TWO TYPES OF SLASHING ATTACKS...THE DEFAULT SLASH, DISMANTLE.AND THE OTHER, CLEAVE, WHICH CAN BE ADJUSTED DEPENDING ON THE TARGET'S TOUGHNESS AND CURSED ENERGY LEVEL TO CUT THEM DOWN IN ONE FELL SWOOP.MALEVOLENT SHRINE DIFFERS FROM OTHER TYPES OF DOMAIN EXPANSION IN THAT IT DOESN'T CREATE A SEPARATE SPACE USING A BARRIER THE ABILITY TO REALIZE ONE'S INNATE DOMAIN WITHOUT USING A BARRIER IS AKIN TO AN ARTIST PAINTING A MASTERPIECE NOT ON A CANVAS, BUT ON AIR A TRULY DIVINE TECHNIQUE FURTHERMORE, BY ALLOWING AN ESCAPE ROUTE, A "BINDING VOW" IS FORMED, WHICH VASTLY INCREASES THE GUARANTEED HIT'S EFFECTIVE AREA WITH A MAXIMUM RADIUS OF NEARLY 200 METERS. SUKUNA NARROWED THE EFFECT'S RANGE TO A 140-METER RADIUS ABOVE THE SURFACE FOR ANYTHING WITH CURSED ENERGY WITHIN RANGE-CLEAVE, "FOR INANIMATE OBJECTS- DISMANTLE" UNTIL MALEVOLENT SHRINE IS GONE......IT WILL RELENTLESLY ATTACK ALL TARGETS WITHIN ITS GUARANTEED HIT'S EFFECTIVE RANGE. The entire narration and it specified that Dismantle targeted inanimate objects. If Toji or Maki were in Kenjaku's DOMAIN he would have to direct his attacks at them like Dagon did as he would not have that guaranteed hit.

[@KANA_VR_]

I’m a Toji fan and I definitely think Kenjaku wins High Diff let’s not be delusional

[@Genji-Agito]

So if a non cursed energy user like myself were to enter oh I don't know "unlimited void" then could I avoid "death by education"?

[@telumbric1292]

most domains target anything with cursed energy, and in JJK only Japanese have cursed energy. If you have no Japanese heritage, I'm pretty sure you'd be fine

[@Genji-Agito]

@@telumbric1292 well shoot, final fantasy isn't big as on nationality ( as far as I'm aware) so I'm kinda nervous.

[@sagmawenee]

@@telumbric1292 humans have ce its just not enough to see curses

[@mrpodslol]

Before watching the video: I think this a high diff fight with Kenjaku winning, like 7/10. I can see the argument for Toji winning, if you think that only Sukuna's CT was what was being affected, instead of his cursed energy reinforcement, when fighting Maki, meaning Toji would be around that level physically. If you think Mahoraga is at that level with Gojo and Sukuna, physically, you could sorta back this up by Maki saying she should go fight Mahoraga and Agito instead of Yuta, and Megumi saying none of his Shikigami would work on Toji. After watching the video: The red vs the inverted spear of heaven stuff is just anime changing things, Toji himself says Red doesnt work on the spear, and he never went to block it in the manga. But i agree overall.

[@karvzv]

take into account kenjakus gravity if toji gets close he can put him on the ground and flood him with curses plus maki is not on sukunas level she was getting 1v 2ed by him also maho was fighting iwith a 20 finger meguna not a 15 like maki also maki only said that because she belives she should rather die than yuta beacause if yuta went and died they would basically have no chance in winning also megumi saying none of the Shinigami would work is unreliably because he has never used maho prior to that if he did megumi would be dead or he would have control over maho ll he knows is that mho is a trump card

[@mrpodslol]

@@karvzv Kenjaku's gravity would be negged by the inverted spear. Maki is on par with 15F, as he literally fails to over power. Its implied Megumi knows how strong Mahogara is, but he does canonically know its around Gojos level. And Maki wouldnt go fight them if she didnt think she could win.

[@karvzv]

maho is not on gojos level WHAT the only reason he surivived as long as he did is because he was working in partnership with someone on gojos level SUKUNA also like i sayed maki only landed 1 hit and it was in a 2 v 1 also kenjaku can use his gravity all around we have only seen the tip of isoh penetrate infinity so how would it block a whole entire area of gravity when its such a small sword. and megumi could never know how strong maho is iif he has never witnessed it until the sukuna vs maho fight@@mrpodslol

[@angelm365]

Kenny slays toji.

[@CrisOfRoshar]

Who's this Yuta guy? He sounds very strong, it would have been nice to have him in Shibuya.

[@telumbric1292]

I heard he was on vacation in Africa or something. Would have been nice if he didn't use his vacation hours unwisely.

[@6PathsGohan]

W as always. Kenny no to low diffs sadly imo

[@levbiggs]

Kenjaku wins medium difficulty. I mean he did hire Toji to kill Riko... He knows everything Toji has got...

[@MrNikelborg]

Let Yoshimura from the Kekkaishi manga fight against Jujutsu sorcerers, cursed spirits and Mahoraga!

[@sdkingz84]

Quick question, if at the time when Maki was fighting Dagon in his domain why sure hit reacting to Maki since still at the time she didn't have any Curse Technique????

[@milohobsbawm4210]

She didn't have a curse technique but she still has a small amount of cursed energy, that's why the domain can hit her.

[@MikoWilson27]

Maki at that time still had cursed energy tho although it was super low

[@lemillion7929]

Huh, the sure hit wont recognize Maki or Toji, yes. But Kenjaku can manually target them. Just like Dagon did

[@BANGKITAS]

that's possible to hit TOJI/MAKI with DOMAIN EXPANSION but you need to do that manually and also DE buff your CT to 120℅ Someone please correct me if I'm wrong🤔

[@bignoob2726]

I think that you are doing Yuki dirty. The way I saw it is that Kenjaku had more experience and more versatility due to having two techniques. Which cover each other's weaknesses. Also, the no barrier domain thing. I think that Gojo, Yuta and Yuki could all learn it if the information was available to them. In the end it wasn't a lack of power but a lack of experience that led to her loss, same with Gojo. The modern era is too soft, so our 3 special grades never reach their true potential. They never had to. Also, Tengen is sus. Y didn't he atleast attempt to have the special grades learn open DEs? Tengen is making sus moves.

[@hugosawe4993]

Tengan probably don't even know open domain. She didn't even have a name for it, was really shocked and called it an amazing feat when kenjaku used it

[@bignoob2726]

@@hugosawe4993 yeah, but still. That fight was rigged fr. Atleast make it so simple domain works, maybe Alot less effectively but it should still work. What r the characters supposed to do? Even if we have a Yuta vs Kenjaku. What is Yuta going to do?

[@hugosawe4993]

@@bignoob2726 yuta is probably gone have to jump kenjaku with the other good guys.

[@bignoob2726]

@@hugosawe4993 I guess, even if they come as a group that DE will stay be a serious problem. Unless Yuta is currently learning how to change the conditions of his DE while Takaba is busy or something

[@ayambackflip1967]

"kenjaku is protected by plot armor", change my mind.

[@marlonazf]

Kenjaku has an open domain, he would still affect Maki and Toji

[@corbano9679]

Thats a sure hit domain expansion pretty sure kenjaku uses a domain that boosts him not a sure hit domain. Ima have to check up on that

[@CoolerThenYou7490]

If Kenjaku had no previous Knowledge of Toji, I think Toji could win. Maki/Toji’s physcial stats are top 3/4 in the verse, they can’t be tracked by anyone not named Gojo or Sukuna, they can forcibly stop your CT with ISOH, prevent you from healing and oneshot with SSK, have pre cog, and have a pretty good healing factor. Keeping that in mind, Kenjaku still wins. Kenjaku Gravity Technique is perfect for fighting against the heavenly restriction users, even though his DE can’t target them he could reduce the gravity around him to slow them down allowing him to react/counter. The high amount of curses and Mini uzamaki’s he could use would also be a major issue. As long as Kenjaku could slow them down, he could oneshot them with these powerful attacks or could crush them with anti gravity (might not work as well, since Toji/Maki have curse resistance.) It’s a tough matchup for both fighters though.

[@jx8903]

- He already has knowledge of Maki and he should be able to figure out that Toji's a HR user too given his BIQ, so he would be cautious and not waste his CE casting his domain meaninglessly or such. - Not really, I mean, he's not hitting anywhere as hard of the likes of Yuki or such. - Sure, but Ken should be able to get rid of all of that with Gravity System, he only needs Toji to get close, which won't be hard given the fact that he's mostly a melee fighter, his precog would be negged by Gravity too; his healing factor wouldn't play a big role here tbh, given that he needs time to heal from a notable injury, something he won't have in the middle of the fight. - They have curse resistance but we don't know to what extent that would help against Anti-Gravity and all Kenjaku needs is to hold him in place and charge his next attack, so even if Toji doesn't get too affected by it he would still caught in it.

[@CoolerThenYou7490]

@@jx8903 Yes I know since he is in geto bodies, that's why I said "If"

[@CoolerThenYou7490]

@@jx8903 If Yuta (Far slower then Maki) can offguard Kenjaku. Then Maki could. His senses aren't good enough to track Maki/toji, the only people we've seen do that are Sukuna and Gojo.

[@jx8903]

@@CoolerThenYou7490 Yuta isn't "far slower" than Maki, what the heck makes you think that??

[@CoolerThenYou7490]

@@jx8903 First, Toji is able to confuse the six eyes with his sheer speed, blocks a off-guard red, perception blitz's Dagon, has multiple statements over the zenin clan (Including Naobito and CS Naoya) and just shows better overall speed feats. Then maki is able to go evenly with Sukuna (15f) outspeeding a rage amped Yuji multiple times, then blocks a off guarded slash from 20f, clashes multiple times (7 in this latest chapter) and even out speeds and gets behind him. Only good Yuta speed feat was the 2v1 fight with Sukuna, where he was getting out speed by Yuji multiple times (In his own domain). The only clean damage he got was BECAUSE of Yuji, he was even getting his sword batted away with one arm 💀. Yuta isn't as physically strong or fast as Maki, narratively and feats wise this has been suggested or said multiple times.

[@diamantemrobinson]

Toji has inverted spear he shuts down all Kenjaku curse energy so none of Kenjaku's abilities are relevant.

[@odontoxins3223]

I’m almost positive Toji only flew back because he was hit with Positive energy from Red , No?

[@BlaxkSun]

Going to have to disagree with you on the Domain expansion. That statement is only applied to and thoroughly shown for Barrier Domains. If he opens a domain the gravity is in the perimeter is affected, not just stuff with cursed energy. Think Sakuna in Shibuya

[@masterclash9336]

Didn’t Dagon domain affect maki ??

[@CaliceGod]

Toji>

[@tarikmccuin6306]

Domain absolutely matters and it’s an easy dub. It’s an open barrier domain, so Toji can’t just stay out of it. And just cause he doesn’t have aimbot on his domain hit doesn’t mean it’s not a super fast attack that can be spammed and beats Toji in probably one hit, but 3 at most. I don’t think he needs the domain tho

[@shepardice3775]

An open barrier domain still has a radius of activation, and it just wouldn't include Toji in its radius. He would have to willingly step inside it. Also we don't know anything about the domain's sure hit. How do we know it's too fast for Toji to dodge or that it can be spammed?? Kenjaku never showed us anything like that.

[@tarikmccuin6306]

@@shepardice3775 Toji runs up on people, that’s what he does. So yes, he’ll be in the radius. And it’s not like Kenny opens it as his first move, he’ll just open it once Toji is close to him. It’s gravity, Toji is not out speeding gravity. Really bro? How do we know Kenjaku can spam his domains attack? Please tell me when we’ve seen a domain that can only use one attack

[@tarikmccuin6306]

@@shepardice3775 and matter of fact, he did. Yukis simple domain didn’t get stripped away from existing in his domain

[@shepardice3775]

@@tarikmccuin6306 Yuki's simple domain did get stripped away by just existing in his domain. When he used his sure hit he did an an actual gesture. He put his fist in the air with his arm bent and then slammed it down to complete the attack. There's no automatic attack in his domain like with Malevolent Shrine otherwise it should've destroyed the ground they were on.

[@tarikmccuin6306]

@@shepardice3775 yea, he’s just attacking. Kenjaku being dramatic to talk shit to Tengen? That seems very unrealistic. Ur simple domain doesn’t get stripped away by being in a domain while nothing is happening.

[@user-bb8qz6nr2d]

Toji win 40 times and kenjaku win 60 times

[@om9959]

This tip of spear is serious lowball for toji,If toji stab kenjaku with spear even once,its over for kenjaku.Because once stabbed kenjaku cannot use curse technique anymore.Even gojo said he cannot allow that spear to hit him even once.Another point yuki was weakened throughout the fight after domain landed she wasnt at her 100%for the entire fight even she healed, her CE was low.So,Kenjaku wasnt trading blows with full power yuki.

[@dakoata6467]

I’m pretty sure the spear doesn’t all put cancel all CT with just a poke. As Gojo got stabbed in the throat and still tried to use Blue to def himself

[@om9959]

​@@dakoata6467And miserbly failed then he focused reversed curse technique and successfully survived.heavenly Spear use +ve energy.But unfortunately kenjaku doesnt have red.

[@tarigshepherd4356]

@@dakoata6467that was in anime which is not canon in the manga he didn’t try to use blue when stabbed

[@majesticslug3399]

You covered a lot of their abilities and weapons but you forgot the most important thing going for Toji. My man is a strategist and is usually informed to some degree about his target. Toji would come up with a plan to maximize his chances of beating Kenjaku. The gravity technique could catch him since it's not a widely known power of Kenjaku. But you're talking about a man who blocked a concentrated blast of force and was flung through concrete walls only to get up with practically zero damage. I imagine he has the raw strength to withstand the extra gravitational force exerted on him. Let's not also forget Yuki was increasing her mass and Kenjaku's CT would be extra effective. Mass and weight are practically interchangeable terms, meaning her increased mass would work against her while being effected by his CT.

[@ACMR6297]

I think Toji might actually win this one 60/40-70/30. He has the capacity to slay special grade curses in his fights with Geto and Dagon, so Kenjaku’s strong curses won’t be much of a factor versus Toji. He’s probably the best hand-to-hand fighter in JJK and won’t get caught off-guard by the mini Uzumakis and buffed centipede like curses in the melee fight. Kenjaku will have to rely on his other CTs. Toji would probably also dodge the blood techniques and the gravity technique, even with DE. He isn’t caught by the automatic targeting of the DE because of his lack of CE. Toji loses a lot of these match-ups because his opponents are either physically stronger than him or have hacks technique. Kenjaku is strong but he doesn’t have any busted techniques. Only thing that might be considered hacks with him was the plot armour he got when Yuki used her black hole technique.

[@deniyii]

Anyone who isn’t free gojo or sukuna is getting absolutely destroyed by Toji.

[@thesage7314]

Toji is a certified Yuta, Kenjaku and Kashimo Victim