Thank you Ray for this review! It really made my day. YOU being impressed with that shotgun is all I really need to know. That thing running flawlessly right out of the box is truly awesome. Thanks for bringing us along!
@Levon0083 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad u passed 100k hopefully 1mill comes soon cuz you and ur videos are 💯% better then most of big gun channels.
@joaquin-jacknava2696 Жыл бұрын
That a good looking shotgun. Thanks for a awesome video Ray. Have a good week sir
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joaquin! I hope you are doing well. Thank you for watching.
@ifyournotfirstyourlast9843 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being the only one to review the 18.4" since everyone else want to bearback eachother and only showcase the 7 and 10.5 sbm sbr
@hesa3656 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir! This Genesis 12 is great! I think the reliability loading even deformed ammo shows the developers hard work/responsiveness. 👍🇺🇸
@stephenbramel9395 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking hard at the Dissident but after you did this video I’m getting interested in this one as well. Thanks Ray for the review
@Muricanwerewolf9 ай бұрын
Got one on order, really excited for it.
@pyrojraz Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Ray, thanks for the mention 😊
@johncrosser87835 ай бұрын
Another Outstanding Review, Ray!
@ChadKelly7 Жыл бұрын
Was hoping to see you go over this one. It is very interesting to me for sure. Glad to see it works well for you. It's on my short list!! Hope these prove to work well long term. I may just have to give it a try and see how it goes!! Have a great week!
@johntownley9885 Жыл бұрын
Great Review and a sweet shotgun for sure. But AR10 lower, hyper fire trigger and 12 gauge upper……… I just don’t see a $4k gun but supply and demand plus having Ray review it will make people want it. Thank you sir for the content
@zackw6042 Жыл бұрын
So worth it. Absolutely flawless
@hopewilliams6705 Жыл бұрын
The fire out the chamber looked wild
@richardmmarcus1 Жыл бұрын
mine is on is way...😁
@Onelowluv Жыл бұрын
I like that it’s very sleek and not bulky like a lot of mag fed autos
@richardescareno2433 Жыл бұрын
Impressive design!
@gsutherland3614 Жыл бұрын
ray is the man. sick channel
@SB-iy7ls Жыл бұрын
Takes me back to being 13 shooting my buddies Saiga 12. We would cut down trees or randomly load slugs into a bird shot mag. Great times.
@Aikidoanh Жыл бұрын
Ray you make me broke because every video you do the review I’m going to buy it 😂😂😂❤❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@chicharrone00710 ай бұрын
3 gun model supposed to ship in a few weeks can’t wait. But they switching production models to barrel porting vs that muzzle brake
@Levon0083 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video!
@bobbysixty Жыл бұрын
You unscrew the handles. Loctite red but it will move. I took mine apart for cerakote.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Thanks ronsukro. I found that out after talking to some guys about theirs.
@entropicdoom8018 Жыл бұрын
I have the 10" model, can you give me info on the fella you work with for the larger capacity mags?
@XRING Жыл бұрын
You will have to message him on Instagram. Pyro1.3Gun his name is Ron
@entropicdoom8018 Жыл бұрын
@@XRING thank you
@Seanconnery1st Жыл бұрын
First Comment?! Hell yeah Ray!
@Baldcurious Жыл бұрын
i bet I can go and shoot my VR 80 and it will perform the same . As matter a fact , challenge accepted :)
@XRING Жыл бұрын
Let’s do it! Get to the choppa! 😁
@Baldcurious Жыл бұрын
@X-RING you no I will ,just need to get my shotgun out of "jail"
@jabarthful2 ай бұрын
Ray, what is your opinion of Dissident Arms?
@tonsofgunsoffun8516 Жыл бұрын
You know I run the Dissident but these Genesis shotguns have me very very interested. I like that they have addressed the left side charging handle. I’d like to see a production 20-round magazine as well. But it would be very nice for my AR controls and shotgun controls to be the same
@zackw6042 Жыл бұрын
Drums are coming soon. ❤
@pyrojraz Жыл бұрын
Drums will only be 15rds. I make the couplers for the 15 and 20 round mags
@HMT3guner Жыл бұрын
Hey I would love to get my hands on some of those couplers for the mags where can I go to get them from you?
@SteveMiles Жыл бұрын
I'd like to know if a Phase 5 bolt release will fit.
@BOHEMIANHUNTINGCLUB Жыл бұрын
N8ce one 👍🍻
@freedomfighter6549 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I will ever be in a situation where I will need to run it without shouldering it. So absolutely give it a pass on the malfunction.
@andys6905 Жыл бұрын
As a tacops shooter, are you not more interested in the new modified division?
@chicharrone007 Жыл бұрын
You gotta link to those magazine couplers?
@Jerry-Parker Жыл бұрын
Very Nice Indeed ! 👍
@kubikariYOU Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@a.gunguy1054 Жыл бұрын
That Holosun will be fine. I do like me a shotgun.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
I hope so. It’s a perfect size for this shotgun.
@entropicdoom8018 Жыл бұрын
@@XRING I have the 510c elite on my GEN12 10.5", will see if it can handle the recoil of the shorter version
@thefrogking481 Жыл бұрын
Sure, as long as you dont actually use it, or mind sending your dollars to the CCP. NOPE! Most of us with jobs will buy American or products made by a nation that doeant openly seek to destroy us. Educate yourself.
@thefrogking481 Жыл бұрын
@@entropicdoom8018 Why be cheap? Why support chinese companies? If you actually have this shotgun, why be a cheap shit and buy a chinese made POS after dropping that much money on the gun?
@Kaiser-sj8hn Жыл бұрын
Like you have had a lot of issues with box fed shot guns. For me a big issue with that gun is not being able to change choke tubes through the muzzle break like the Dissident Arms set up
@XRING Жыл бұрын
You can change it through the brake. It uses the same tool as the Dissident. The one I have was just too short since this is a pre production model.
@zackw6042 Жыл бұрын
I believe the 18" version you can change chokes
@pyrojraz Жыл бұрын
They are making a 3 gun version, you have to call to them order it. It will have the removable chokes which are currently Briley thin wall.
@bryanduchane2371 Жыл бұрын
That's quite a price tag
@conservativesniperhunter7439 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a better shotgun than that Turkish shotty that gave you problems during a match a few years ago. We haven’t heard from Rick for a couple of months. Is he well?
@e7tegt503 Жыл бұрын
Freakn awesome! I'm the market for a semi auto shotgun. Was looking at the 1301 LTT. So, this or the LTT?
@XRING Жыл бұрын
The 1301 is really nice as well. Depends on what you are doing with the shotgun.
@zackw6042 Жыл бұрын
Gen 12 all day. Truly an amazing firearm. Especially the sbr model
@trevorhawkins8757 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully for almost 4k they decide to stake their castle nuts before they ship the production models out.
@zackw6042 Жыл бұрын
They do...
@trevorhawkins8757 Жыл бұрын
@@zackw6042 the one Ray has in the video isn’t staked.
@zackw6042 Жыл бұрын
@@trevorhawkins8757 likely a reason why. I've shot several models and own the 10.5. All staked
@XRING Жыл бұрын
This is a preproduction model and isn’t on their site at the moment. Probably the reason why. There are some other plans for this shotgun as well. 👍🏼
@mrstevemassa Жыл бұрын
Does it have removable chokes?
@pyrojraz Жыл бұрын
Yes, currently they run Briley thinwall chokes.
@mrstevemassa Жыл бұрын
Still no big stick 20 rd mags?
@pyrojraz Жыл бұрын
You can make 15 and 20 rd mags with my couplers.
@chicharrone007 Жыл бұрын
Where are thes couplers!?
@XRING Жыл бұрын
You have to go to Instagram and look for pyro1.3gun his name is Ron. You will have to message him on IG.
@dustinshaw2419 Жыл бұрын
Will it run 3"?
@pyrojraz Жыл бұрын
Yes, mags will accept most 3” shells
@hillbilly4christ6385 ай бұрын
Now, if the Turks can produce something like this for the American market for like 500.00. I mean, I can go out and buy the best balanced over and under beretta for way less that is a work of art. I know apples and oranges, but you are not going to convince me that that thing is worth that kind of money.
@coopandcarter Жыл бұрын
The bad thing about all types of competitIve disciplines, the cost of the equipment makes it prohiBitive for the average shooter.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
It is very expensive and can take serious commitment for sure.
@tedkoch357 Жыл бұрын
They want American made money for that thing, the cost is way to much for me!!! I’ll stick with what I have
@SlavicCinnamonRollie556 Жыл бұрын
cheaper box fed shotguns is usually turkish junks that i'd stay away to be honest
@waynecastleman1363 Жыл бұрын
What a slug gun !
@XRING Жыл бұрын
It’s very impressive .
@waynecastleman1363 Жыл бұрын
@@XRING I have a Winchester SX4 Extreme Defender and it rocks pretty well but I like the looks of the Genesis!
@Seanconnery1st Жыл бұрын
“Buy a shotgun!”-Joe Biden
@thefrogking481 Жыл бұрын
Ray, as picky as ypu are about gear; especially higher end gear, its disappointing to see youve also chosen the route of prmoting lesser quality chinese made optics.
@XRING Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I promoted them in any way shape or form. I merely bought something cheap at a gun store to see if it works. 👍🏼
@rezdog187 Жыл бұрын
3800 dollars? That's funny, and stupid at the same time! Hard pass but I'm sure fools will buy it
@The_Hunan Жыл бұрын
Do you shoot 3 gun and have you priced a dissident kl12? If you shoot open in 3 gun, that price tag is worth it for a box gun that runs 100% of the time.