Yale Sociologist Nick Christakis: COVID-19 Will Reshape Humanity | Amanpour and Company

[@kenbranaugh8251]

My decision to be a hermit in the mountains has finally paid off !

[@billwatt3775]

Cool. I did the same. Nature is a nice booster.

[@chchwoman9960]

@@billwatt3775 Haha, COOL was exactly the word that came to my mind. Respect to Ken and Bill

[@valarietisdale5081]

Nice to know I'm not alone

[@kevincrady2831]

@@valarietisdale5081 But...isn't that kinda the definition of "hermit in the mountains?" 😂

[@rogerdodger8813]

Problem is that if you decide to mix with the general population. Your immune system may not be able to cope.

[@heidi.a.thomson]

I appreciate this video a lot right now. The city I live in is currently being occupied by people protesting vaccine mandates for border crossing truckers. The interviewer has a really gentle tone and asks very good questions. We need this type of reporting on the pandemic. Also appreciate the sociologist-physician for sharing his insights and knowledge. Very helpful. Thank you!

[@adal3737]

I love hearing a social scientist's perspective for once in this pandemic...

[@michelefisher5171]

He can be wrong.

[@Rhythmicons]

You should listen to the NABE podcasts about the economy.

[@krismcgill5068]

@@michelefisher5171 he can be right as well …

[@sandal_thong8631]

Neil deGrasse Tyson said in March 2020, "I think we're in the middle of a massive experiment worldwide.... The experiment is: will people listen to scientists?" So far the answer is no, they listen to capitalists holding onto mRNA patents, and strong-men right-wing leaders around the world, and conspiracy, new-wives tales people.

[@angelozachos8777]

@@sandal_thong8631 Ah , yes … the “SCIENCE” 🙄

[@amysolley4268]

I love this comment section. Truly. You folks give me a smidgen of faith in humanity. Everyone here seems to be dignified and intelligent, as well as respectful. I appreciate you folks.

[@theresachung703]

So beautifully true

[@Miamitalentg]

You mean they agree with you. Dignified and intelligent 🤓. Robust debate and disagreement is vital.

[@cliberg]

Excepting the idiot troll “Freedom4Me.”

[@ashleylala4293]

Have you seen the recent interview of Catherine Austin Fitts with Reiner Fuellmich? Very important economic info there about the direction we are headed in. They’re truly doing tremendous work, very informative and hopefully it can change the planet for the better. I especially love her ideas about creating a better economic model.

[@raysilver2b]

@@Miamitalentg I agree we need robust debate. However, one can disagree with another without resorting to insults that close down debate. Devide and rule, oligachy have been using that control the majority for thousands of years.

[@irenecheca6575]

So glad comments are allowed. Sharing with others, this person is a great, rational, lucid, very clear yet still passionate communicator . And he knows what he is talking about.

[@AmanpourandCompany]

Thank you for sharing.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

Here here. We need unfettered dialogue, especially with a viewpoint with which we disagree.

[@e-spy]

I agree 100%

[@buttafan4010]

[shh add dough band check???]

[@annem7806]

This is the stuff I've been wondering about. I know there will be thesis papers written by future generations. Was society this much of a mess during the Spanish flu? Cornell is a mix of downstate & international students. A perfect petri dish after the Thanksgiving holiday.

[@Carolmaizy]

"The fact that we are sick of the virus has no bearing on the virus- it just goes on doing what is does". Well said.

[@nosuchthing8]

Yes

[@annapachaclarke2392]

Very wrong! Many more of us are sick of the appalling way in which our government s have operated throughout this virus! This man's selective viewpoint is so narrow, one wonders what was the point of the video 🤔 Oh yes, because of feedback comments to make his channel relevant!

[@HomeAtLast501]

Well said for stupid people.

[@northbay4619]

You mean like how the flu just goes on doing what it does? This is nothing but the Demonrats and their supporting sheep wanting power.

[@HomeAtLast501]

@@northbay4619 I thought more of this Christakis guy --- I had assumed he was an independent thinker with high integrity. Now I see he wants to build a career as a Democrat establishment parrot. I assume he wants to break through and become a talking head for CNN or MSNBC, whose viewership is plummeting because their ranks are populated by people doing what Christakis is doing in this clip. I might have some respect for him if I had heard a single original, and penetrating, insight from him in this clip.

[@davidt9238]

Good interview. I wish more U.S TV journalists had this interviewer’s calm and clear approach.

[@tomdurkins]

So let me ask you, how much of this interview was fact and how much was propaganda?

[@ernestscuttle9139]

@@tomdurkins Mostly Gates's funded propaganda.

[@seagal-1]

He's been great from the start. Used to be on the PBS Newshour.

[@kenwickcook8413]

I just stumbled upon this as an independent it was a fresh relief to finally have a realistic and healthy perspective after two years of babbling ignorance. I started watching just to see which side put this out and it’s almost over and haven’t heard red or blue. Whew.

[@nodensbertilak6855]

@@tomdurkins the earth is flat

[@untermench3502]

There is something else to consider. Those who become infected, are hospitalized with severe symptoms and survive, even if they have insurance, may end-up with a debt burden for co-pays that may go into the six figures.

[@mrrecluse7002]

Yes, for the unvaccinated I say they made their bed, and will sleep, or die in it, and the responsible members of society will also pay a price for their stubborness, and stupidity.

[@untermench3502]

@@mrrecluse7002 Freedom has a price.

[@mrrecluse7002]

@@untermench3502 Yes, and I would just add that freedom, without responsiblity, is actually anarchy.

[@HobertMallow]

@@untermench3502 I don't see much freedom in being six figures in debt.

[@tbz1551]

Only in the USA

[@kurtturner5703]

This journalist guy, does a great job, I’d watch anything he has his fingerprints on,… the author is EXTREMELY well spoken, intelligent and I’m going to buy his book.

[@doom-driveneap4569]

He's a professor at Yale lol. We should expect nothing less

[@poulha]

Agree - Hari Sreenivasan is giving the impression of thinking while he speaks. Quite rare with a TV journalist. He is not aiming for quick answers to prepared questions but exploring the subject together with his guest.

[@teebeedahbow]

He used the word 'prayerful'. This hideous neologism is NOT a the sign of someone well spoken.

[@malekkushimuzik3580]

Don't wast your time. He said his whole mind and opinion can change tomorrow. Go back and listen. What he said might not be what he believes by the time the interview is over.

[@muchacho2141]

Another doomsday spewing garbage and non fact.

[@aeroplain]

Thank you for mentioning the 5 million US "scarred" by COVID with permanent organ and neurological damage. It's not just whether one dies or survives.

[@shaunzaarrae3727]

So 6million out of a country of 333million. 1.8% of the population, the oldest and weakest. Ask Darwin if we should shut society down for those people’s sake.

[@gottagowork]

Not to mention those who die from not getting the healthcare they require for other conditions. We have breakthrough cases in the old and vaccinated, but they only make up about 10% of the hospitalizations. The remaining 90% are the unvaccinated so called "young and healthy". Mean average age 50yo, median 30yo (hospitalized). The survival rate is pretty good, assuming they get the help they need. Every time a surge happens, CFR increase. In the young. As you can see, some still thinks this is just about "the oldest and weakest". And yet, due vaccination they've been well protected. Many of these lunatics refuse vaccination to "own the libs", ignoring how much harder they get hit - the numbers already will flip elections. The US is *BY FAR* the absolute worst hit among comparable countries of similar wealth and development. Just because of political divide. Absolute insanity to watch from abroad.

[@MrKit9]

@@shaunzaarrae3727 Ask Darwin if he'd cross YOU off of his list. Species that do not sociologically aid one another die off quicker than those who have compassion. You my friend should shop for a black suit soon!

[@MrKit9]

@@shaunzaarrae3727 And just show you are educated, Republicans are dying at a 3 to 1 ratio to Democrats. In the last election some results were down to the wire. Next election Republicans will feel the pain of the Covid suicides at the polls. Couldn't happen to a more deserving crowd.

[@feathermerchant]

@@shaunzaarrae3727 *"...the oldest and weakest."* My, you are a sweetheart aren't you!

[@Wednesdaywoe1975]

Re: Long covid. I had swine flu in 2009. I did not recover for a year and then I developed lupus. 11 years later, I am still living with the fall out from something that actually WAS the flu. It has effected every part of my life. 10-20% of the population limping along is no joke. Also--1%-2% lethality would be 3-7 million people. Not including all of the people who die from secondary issues--ie, motorcycle accidents, breech births, cancer and heart attacks. People who couldn't get into a hospital because they were already full.

[@htunlin2000]

Thank you for that. Your personal story added that much more power to your message.

[@keithbentley6081]

What a genius you are! A motorcycle accident is a secondary symptom of ''''' covic'''? wtf are you on about?

[@gabrielleandrew542]

@@keithbentley6081 if a person who has had a motorbike accident can’t be admitted or treated because the hospital beds are 100 percent full with Covid ... that’s a problem

[@LoveNeverFails81818]

@@gabrielleandrew542 you are correct on motorcycle and disease consequences. the government responses kill people from suicides, hunger, drug over doses, and other social second and third order consequences of lockdowns, job loses, and the social consequences of dividing, dehumanizing, and discriminating against people and creating “us and them”. the government and institutional responses to the wuhan virus has been and continues to be horrific and brutal. the majority of the economic fallout is not directly from the virus but rather the government responses.

[@gabrielleandrew542]

@@LoveNeverFails81818 this virus has had enormous and far reaching disastrous effects not only on the 800 000 Americans who have lost their lives so tragically . Long covid , chronic illness of all sorts , long hospital wait times , and disastrous social consequences including suicide depression and job loss . The economic effects are said to be in the trillions . The environmental side effects of countless tonnes of PPE from care settings and hospitals . The list is endless . We will be feeling the consequences of this for many years

[@charissaluree1829]

Best explanation of the pandemic, I have heard so far. Thank you for your expertise Mr. Christakis; explaining simply for the public to understand. Sent this to my mother for greater clarity on this subject. Great interviewer: wonderfully calm and compassionate on the matter.

[@Lynne-28]

Hari’s calm voice, excellent listening skills and pertinent questions add credibility to this touching and humbling interview.

[@AmanpourandCompany]

Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

[@serpentines6356]

Yes. very good.

[@douglaswilliams9779]

I really admire both the questions and Nick’s responses, so balanced and fact based. How is it possible this has 5000 views? Everyone should use this as our roadmap for the next few years.

[@maxwellsimoes238]

He roadmap isnt true because Science unable show up predict future. He comments is fallacies, so from esquizofrenic mind.

[@HeyMJ.]

The view count may be amp’d by multi views /listens per user profile. I’ve listened a few times; discovering new nuggets of wisdom upon each listen. ✨

[@onlinecall5284]

A pan-demic is impossible to predict. This SOB is a monsteros liar.

[@vallee7966]

Wow. The QAnoners are out !

[@dhammadina8654]

@SnoopyDoo why am I not surprised? So tired of the fear-mongering... these people and their bosses are the “plague”!

[@marblegarden8456]

Sociologists are always INCREDIBLY intelligent and insightful people. They would make much better public leaders than the politicians we have today.

[@MH-be6hr]

Not really. The Soviet Union & Maoist China tried this-- and it failed.

[@marblegarden8456]

@@MH-be6hr Ok, so the problem here is that sociology sounds too much like socialism, and you don’t actually know what either of these words mean. Sociology is literally the study of society, it’s characteristics, diseases and health, regulation, systems, functions, etc. Being against the application of sociology to society, is like being against the application of knowledge to practise, or… reading to books. Do you want a doctor who studied “basket weaving” instead of medicine? Don’t be a manipulated pawn, M*H*, educate yourself. “Free thinkers” listen to objective reality, not phoney narratives espoused by their masters, and perpetuated by their peer group.

[@simsimmons8884]

You are wrong and this video is wrong.

[@junanougues]

This is the go to guy for communicating with the public on our virus challenges. Great job.

[@carlosacta8726]

Why wasn't this guy talking in 2020? How many lives might have been saved if the media had gotten the messaging right?

[@victor62246]

He doesn't convince me.

[@jasonmoser8957]

@@carlosacta8726 he originally predicted around 60 thousand deaths - don't put these people on pedestals. a lot of what he says in this interview is 'fluff'.

[@jasonmoser8957]

@@victor62246 he actually predicted 60 thousand deaths in the early days so not sure why they are saying he was mostly right. a lot of what he says is nonsense

[@junanougues]

I sense different, passion, intellectual integrity, a commitment to public service that is inclusive. Pharma is not the point, here.

[@markmaurer6370]

As a nation it seems we are incapable of doing much... How are we going to pick up the pieces of our shattered society? We can't get basic infrastructure done

[@jps0117]

Seems we've gone from being a "can-do" nation to being a "can't-do" nation.

[@paulaooook]

“Won’t do” nation because of silly beliefs and stubborn stupidity

[@jamesmullins6681]

A segment of society does not want or care about infrastructure. Their lives do not depend on it. They've already made their fortunes. And they see American society's participants as chumps.

[@buttafan4010]

. *A MESSAGE TO EARTH!* *WORLDWIDE GENERAL STRIKE!* *RISE UP AND TO THE RESCUE OF ALL MANKIND!* *kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5LQeniOmZt9bqs*

[@joe3276865536]

H.R.3684 - Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act passed 11/15/2021.

[@StonedustandStardust]

Sociologists are helping humanity get through this God Bless them in all their forms.

[@martinzelaya2927]

I disagree. It's not a clean up, it rebuilding. A paradigm shift. It's already happening. In the US the primary source of work is service jobs. White collar and labor. Because of a technological leap, office works has become remote. Major cities are devastated because the central pillar of a city is the work place. Then follows residential and finally retail. Each depended on the other. What will replace the office work place? It's not known because leadership is in denial of the fact that world as we've known is gone. Still hoping for life to be as it was. Pandemics change the world. Technology creates new worlds. New ways of living. Both are at work at this time.

[@inveele]

Agree with you, Martin. Administrators at all levels are in denial. There is no going back to life as it was. It's a new dawn.

[@gipsydanger5020]

@@inveele Lay off the drugs

[@marcynadler7326]

I really appreciate this type of clear and cogent discourse.

[@joeybonin7691]

Really?

[@andrewblake2254]

Except that they tell lies. Like saying that the current vaccination will protect you from the omicron variant. Big fat lies.

[@tomdurkins]

You do realize that 50% of this is propaganda, right. Go back and listen carefully with your filter on. It’s quiet obvious.

[@funky-landscaper]

2:45 listen again, carefully.

[@wwbuirkle]

Yes and next week it will completely change

[@reverendmonique-mariebray2436]

This conversation is great. Nothing new that we haven't heard for the most part, but very concise and understandable for those of us who just don't get it. Unfortunately those are the very people who should hear this, but probably never will.

[@theknowall2232]

Nonsense. Get out of the MSM and get some reality.

[@thomaslawton4487]

⁰

[@tracysample6942]

@@theknowall2232 and what is reality exactly, according to you?

[@theknowall2232]

@@tracysample6942 Thanks for asking. The average age of death that the msm ...

[@theknowall2232]

fearmongered was 83. More than the average for cancer, heart disease etc. so anyone with any critical thinking capacity knew that nothing unusual was happening, other than the fear by the MSM.

[@sumernoel1553]

He is refreshing! Not fear mongering or downplaying. Just saying it like it is. Thank you 🙏 Fabulous interview of a brilliant man.

[@buttafan4010]

Did you know that the first nursing home outbreak of covid 19 may have been in June of 2019 at the G-r-e-e-n-s-p-r-i-n-g Senior Living Community located in Fairfax County VA, less than an hour's drive from the Level 4 USAMRIID Contagous Disease Labs located next to the NIH building on the Fort D. Trick army base; a base that is renowned as the germ warfare facility where the Ames Anthrax strain originated, that was mailed to 3 prominent Senators calling for a criminal investigation of the 9/!! attacks ... that to this day has not yet been carried out. The 9/!! Commission Report was a White House Policy Paper with no legal standing. No one was punished for failure to prevent it, just as no one at Fort Detrick has been indicted for splicing together the original alpha variant of the sars-cov-2 frankin virus ... S1 furin cleavage points and all.

[@loriar1027]

@@buttafan4010 What is the source of your information?

[@buttafan4010]

@@loriar1027 I will attempt to post a url link for a KZbin video of local television news coverage of the "mysterious outbreak". The url/link will be in r-e-v-e-r-s-e-d text, to eve aid this post being shh add dough band by Al Gore rhythms. It will be posted in my next reply. Otherwise just search KZbin for { Third death confirmed after respiratory outbreak at Fairfax County assisted living facility, 63 resi }. It is the 2nd result near the top. More info sources to come.

[@buttafan4010]

[ shh add dough band check?]

[@buttafan4010]

Looks like the url did not make it through. More info sources to come.

[@culinarycaravan]

Finally. No bravado, no sensationalism, no ego. Just the facts. Thank you! It's been shared.

[@armanigucci6688]

BLM rioted and burned down cities for 10 months in 2020

[@gorsneg]

What facts it all maybe

[@gulnarkulybekova9531]

I am afraid the facts He mentioned are from Model which means all are expectations, for instance “if no vaccine” is only expectations with many limitations in calculations.

[@andreaking7920]

According to his mind, i think we have to wait and be positive..ourselves.. and not listen to modelling..

[@patrickmckinley6679]

Hi 👋 friend, can I talk to you for a moment?

[@MrQueerDuck]

Thank you A&Co for this calm, levelheaded assessment that shares data as we know/predict it now. I appreciate both interviewer and interviewee talking as and to adults. I miss rational news.

[@AmanpourandCompany]

Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you!

[@genkiferal7178]

It was more rational, but still not as objective as I'd've liked. The guest failed to mention that it wasn't only the elderly dropping out of the work force, but also many others and for various reasons. He also fialed to note that those dying or getting really ill had pre-existing conditions - even if some of those conditons hadn't been diagnosed before. When he talks about people against vaccinations, he seemed to think we wanted to force people *not* to get them - while it was the exact opposite - us not wanting to be forced to get them.

[@sandal_thong8631]

@@genkiferal7178 One video or interview isn't going to cover everything. The trick is to get your point across that might not have been heard previously or concurrently. [edit:] Your last sentence makes it seem like you've drunk the Kool-Aid. Vaccines are as he may have said a medical miracle they didn't have in ancient times. Science is the method for determining how diseases spread and what can be done to mitigate it. Just reading about how they tried to figure out bubonic and pneumonic plague before science is tragic.

[@AndreasDelleske]

@@genkiferal7178 You are spreading unconfirmed opinions and call reporting biased?

[@genkiferal7178]

@@AndreasDelleske MSM has written articles on it and they show up at the w=top of a search on the issue. If you'd wanted proof, it was easy to find. You didn't want proof/truth. Ask yourself why.

[@teddoukas3194]

Don’t understand why no one talks about boosting your immune system to prepare it for a possible infection. More than 80% of hospitalizations had vitamin D deficiency.

[@brasschick4214]

Vitamin D deficiency is widespread. It should be recommended more.

[@7788Sambaboy]

Ted...interesting information - where did you get this stat about Vitamin D

[@SunnyDaysAhead85]

Because it’s not actually about health...

[@joeybonin7691]

@@SunnyDaysAhead85 Bingo.

[@7788Sambaboy]

@@SunnyDaysAhead85 ...what's it really about?

[@zeideerskine3462]

The medieval response of doing nothing led to the renaissance. This requires political change. When people realize the extent to which they are treated as commodities, this can easily spell the end of capitalism. This pandemic is far from over and its implications both biological and societal are far from fully known or even developed.

[@kvaka009]

Hopeful

[@loriar1027]

@HunterBidensCrackPipe Stupid comment

[@irishcanuck9489]

The Renaissance was an awakening an enlightening and a much better time than the Medieval Age. In the Renaissance man became (more) aware of beauty, they became aware of the value of children and stopped using children as "slave" labour, they became scientific and more educated. They discovered the printing press, allowing more people to read and removing much of the past ignorance. Viruses change and so does man! Mankind has survived many viruses and bacterial diseases. There have been many paradigm shifts. I lived during the last one, Eugenics Movement! Go read about the Russian flu or Asian flu pandemic of 1889, scientists researched it. They discovered it wasn't influenza, it was a coronavirus. Same symptoms as Covid 19, virulent and highly contagious during the first 2 years. It spread around the world killing millions, closing factories, schools, businesses slowing world economies. It even had long haul, it affected most of the elderly. No cure, no treatment, no vaccines. It died out within 5 years, little was written/documented about it by then. They believe it mutated to one of the common colds today as people acquired (herd) immunity. The world survived only to have another pandemic 30 years later Spanish flu 1918 (H1N1) (no treatments, no vaccines). But wait, we now have treatments and vaccines for H1N1, penicillin, oxygen was discovered!

[@buttafan4010]

. *A MESSAGE TO EARTH!* *WORLDWIDE GENERAL STRIKE!* *RISE UP AND TO THE RESCUE OF ALL MANKIND!* *kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5LQeniOmZt9bqs*

[@robertgretter9452]

@HunterBidensCrackPipe You don't know what you're talking about. This isn't a political disease, but your side is certainly paying a higher price.

[@starkiller9897]

If only more people explained things so calmly and matter of factually! Great interview!!

[@finallythere100]

OK, but I have one more year, according to him, to contract COVID, as an unvaxed older person w significant health history, , on protective supplements, who has been around people w active COVID. Best wishes for good health and blessings in 2022!

[@alywi]

And admit that their opinion could change with new information.👏👏👏

[@trishmacmillan4646]

He is excellent . For another voice of reason through this whole pandemic try John Campbell on KZbin, medical professional in England who lectures factually almost daily about world wide covid situation.He has been a voice of intelligence and even humor through this year.

[@finallythere100]

@@trishmacmillan4646 - Exactly! AND see the FLCCC prevention and early treatment protocols. Since surges continue among the vaxed, everyone should check it out, especially about Vitamin D3 .

[@jennifersheehan8588]

THANK YOU for speaking about long COVID and long-term disability, AND the fact that this nation has (by and large) not processed the national trauma we are enduring and the future national disability we face (5:30-6:50 in). Long COVID can plague even the fully vaccinated, and you do not wish it on your worst enemy.

[@geofo60]

I don’t think it’s just America that’s failed to understand the long term effects of Covid. I live in the U.K. and there’s a sizeable part of the population that haven’t considered the damage that the virus has & is going to cause in the long term. As for long Covid, my wife, who has a rare cancer but has had three doses of the vaccine and is awaiting her booster shot, developed long Covid eleven months ago. I’ve never felt so helpless in my forty years of marriage knowing that there’s nothing I or anyone else can do to help her recover from it.

[@darylfoster7944]

Long Covid affects a tiny percentage of those infected, and almost all had previous health issues. Government authoritarianism is the real virus, and it's affecting billions of people.

[@bargainbassist]

@@darylfoster7944 Geez, that’s an awfully cold take on what this poor chap and his wife are experiencing with her COVID distress. Man, you’re so ideologically brainwashed that you unsympathetically ignore others’ suffering, like an armchair Mao Zedong. Psychopath much?

[@darylfoster7944]

@@bargainbassist the only ones brainwashed are the ones thinking that government is the solution to Covid, or anything else for that matter. It's unfortunate that his wife is suffering, but facts remain facts. A tiny percentage of people are affected by long Covid. Why are you people so resistant to facts?

[@kikimarie123]

As someone with LC since July 2020 it’s frustrating to see folks disregard a traumatic reality for so many of us that have suffered and continue to suffer from this disease. And so dismissive to attribute this to preexisting conditions. The FACTs are that as the guest stated some likely 5 million Americans have some form of LC. Did you know that many of those happen to be women of child bearing age due to our natural autoimmune responses? There is a lot of emerging science on this. So no, it’s not all because of lifestyle changes - to the other responder who I will not name. Every new virus in history has left a post viral syndrome in its wake…long COVID is the horrible gift that keeps on giving. I lost 10 months to intense recovery from this virus and was healthy prior. And AND had a mild or moderate case of COVID in July 2020. DO YOUR PART get VACCINATED. Or play roulette with this virus - your life and those around you. Up to you. For Peet’s sake. Believe doctors and nurses and science and obituaries

[@rca-in-glasgow6781]

I am an American expatriate now living in Glasgow Scotland. I was fortunate to have this option because I married the love of my life who happens to be a British Citizen. I now trust my government (Scotland not England) and I have been protected from COVID by the National Health Care System (NHS). I pay about the same tax as I did in the US and yet I now have VERY good healthcare at no additional cost. No premiums, no co-pays, no out of pocket. And all prescriptions at no cost. People here get vaccinated and wear masks because we are all in this together. We are all relying on the same national health care system to save our lives.

[@demostheodorakakis6328]

Same here in Canada.

[@Ease54]

What are they doing in Scotland to protect you, because the vaccine isn't doing it.

[@shaunsteele8244]

lol the NHS isn't going to save your life, only God can do that

[@joeshmoe7967]

@@shaunsteele8244 and since god ain't real, he is in for a big shock if death comes calling.....

[@joeshmoe7967]

We could debate the vaccines. They seem pretty poor in effectiveness. Better than nothing for some. Masks on the other hand. Unless wearing a properly fitted N-95 or better or equivalent, masks are virtually useless against viruses. There is ZERO data showing that masks made any difference in this entire pandemic. There is 1 study where mask vs no mask made .024% difference. That is 24/1000ths of a percent. Under no circumstances should you bet your health and welfare on the crappy masks everyone has been wearing. Staying away from people is the #1 way to avoid the virus. Also data clearly shows a relationship between blood levels of vitamin D vs severity of covid. High levels significantly lessen severity. Take your D and Zinc. Get an N-95 mask if you feel you need a mask. Stay away from strangers.....and don't forget your boosters...for life, or at least the foreseeable future.

[@reginahay5211]

Finally,commentary worth watching--and a comments section that is interesting and balanced

[@diannabryzicki7111]

THIS is why we need single payer healthcare.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

There are many more reasons than this for single payer.

[@buttafan4010]

Jimmy Dore haarps on the fact that 200,000 of US who died of covid were not even able to see a doctor, for lack of health care. Un-emplopyment in Los Angeles is approaching 50% ... meaning they lost the health care provided by their employers. This is not the case in any of the 32 real democracies on Earth, of which I do not count US.

[@meeeka]

I live in Australia where we have had a great single payer, along side a private payer system The system is only as good as the national government in charge of it. We have a corrupt government of the "Liberal" party (Republican "death cult" wannabes) which has denied funding to the public hospitals for the past 25 years, as well as other social policy funding, ie firefighting necessities, education and spending cuts which focused on under ordering PPE, vaccines and medical supplies. In late December, 2019 we saw video of Chinese government officials NAILING people into their houses, because of this mysterious disease. At the same time a good portion of the Australian continent was on fire and the head of government, as well as most of the Cabinet and bureaucrats were on vacation in Hawaii, the US and CHINA. They left prep so long, "because Australians take care of themselves." So single payer is only as good as the political will standing behind it. Governments which consist of lobbyists for Big Coal, Big Mining, Big Agribusiness, REALLY BIG Property Developers and which are held up by the Murdoch Press, will NEVER do what must be done to improve--even maintain--single payer health care, because they believe that slice of revenue belongs to them. And their marketers and lawyers. Oh, and we pay 50% of our income tax to support single payer and the larger social network. As an American, the country I knew where tax avoidance was a bigger sport than NFL, would never stand for THAT!

[@janepatton2907]

@@meeeka Is Australia a bit like us. Land Stolen from indigenous people by white xtians. I know nothing else re: Australian history but it seems to have the wild, Wild West attitude and GREED over all else. Thanks for making me realize single"payer won't work here as long as lawmakers will always be bought by corporations Good luck. I've in my third week month of trying to get an MRI under $3000. Good luck to all.

[@susanl8478]

@@bassandtrebleclef Trading one set of issues for a whole other set of issues. Government run health care is the least efficient, top heavy, money wasting way to solve our problems with health care. You will pay increased taxes (not to mention pay extra for supplemental plans) for a watered-down cumbersome inefficient system which will be grossly inadequate for the poor AND middle-class ... and still, the ultra-wealthy, will navigate their way to better care.

[@Oneshot8242]

Even though the outlook is depressing, hearing from an expert hike him actually makes me more relaxed. I'm optimistic about the future for workers, too, based on what's happened before. Stay safe, y'all.

[@thomassherer5962]

Yes, the result of Trump's handling of his Pandemic was to kick the Republican view of the $7.25/HR MinWage into the Dustbin of History. Regardless of Laws on the Books, no owner can hire for that price bc no Worker will work for that. Credit accrues to Fred Smith, Jeff Bezos, and Brian Cornell, who were among the 1st CEOs to Devine how to keep employees coming to Work.

[@45newsutah]

Ahhh, the crooks pfizer, the fake vaccine? Relaxing? Omicron, the transformer, look it up. This guy has made a bunch of money I'd say, off of this scam. Maybe he can write a new book, when you all wake up! THEY HAD A REAL VACCINE THE ENTIRE TIME! ONLY AVAILABLE NOW???????

[@45newsutah]

@Angelo Balbi enough to see how you, and all like you, are orchestrating, the largest theft, in human history. It's alright, soldiers do what they are told, no hard feelings, just the dead, and suffering.

[@45newsutah]

@Angelo Balbi the future wealth, of generations to come, come on, you push the narrative. Explanation not needed.

[@45newsutah]

@Angelo Balbi you sent, a portion of the population to die, while the radicals hid in their basement. Sacrificial lambs. Remember that Angelo? No MRna jab, just do it, or be fired, and lose everything. I watched, as the majority, sent us out, to keep food in their guts! Sickness, is a tool of war, it has always been. Good luck with the insane, they'll believe you did this to save humanity, lol.

[@feurigerStern]

All I can say is wow! I have worked in healthcare for over 40 years and now working on my graduate degree in Epidemiology. I had never considered the social stages of a pandemic, but it makes sense. It sounds like we must learn from the process rather than make a political argument out of what we don't 100% control.

[@tenthgate8090]

THUMBS DOWN

[@beetdiggingcougar]

One problem of epidemiology is they don't consider the social/economic impacts. Very small focus when we need the whole picture.

[@patrickmckinley6679]

Hi 👋 Feuriger, can I talk to you for a moment?

[@feurigerStern]

@@beetdiggingcougarI must share your comment with those students in Public Health 101. They will get a chuckle. 100% of the assignments are based on socioeconomic status and disparities in healthcare. We learn it, but getting the concept implemented with limited governmental budgets, political agendas and big egos is the challenge. What is learned in textbooks is not always simple in real life.

[@feurigerStern]

@@tenthgate8090 Not much of an intelligent discussion.

[@kevinoleary9662]

Love it…if the knowledge changes my opinions will change.. nice to hear from a sensible scientist. Sadly there are a lot people out there suffering from the Dunning Kruger effect and are in the Darwin Award Lottery.

[@ottodidakt3069]

we're reliving the 1930's all over again, hope people wake up fast before this turns into the 40's !

[@maggielapensee1619]

This is one of the best interviews I’ve watched yet on Covid and its impact on the world and humanity as a whole. This professor is very well spoken and obviously very smart. Too bad more people aren’t listening to voices of reason and balance like his around the world.

[@resourcedragon]

14:59 "and the 1918 so-called Spanish influenza, all of which were much more deadly." The 1918 Spanish influenza killed a greater proportion of the population than COVID has so far. _However,_ I suspect that if they'd had the treatments we have available in 2021 back in 1918 (oxygen, antibiotics for secondary infections - apparently that was a big factor with the "Spanish 'flu", anti-inflammatories and, eventually, vaccines), the death rate from the Spanish 'flu might have been lower than the death rate from COVID.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

That is always the case. In 50 years, the medical community then will look back at how we treat cancer today with sadness.

[@buttafan4010]

The so called Spanish Flu stated as a flu epidemic in Kansas in 1917 and was spread to Europe by US when Woodrow Wilson gave the order to pack hundreds of infected enlisted young men on Cruise Ships and troop transport ships to fight in WW I; a war he campaigned on promising to keep US out of. The Liar. As our troops returned to US at the end of the war, they infect millions of US, killing 650,000 of US. That's more than 150,000 less of US than the current official death toll estimates. However, the sars-cov-2 franken virus has not been proven to be of natural origin, but rather from a lab or labs including Fort D. Trick's (phonetic Al Gore rhythm eve-aid-tion) ... S1 protoger furin cleavage points -Et al.- and all. That's the same lab that synthesized the mRNA "vaccine" gene sequence for Big Pharma developers. the first outbreak of cov19 here among US, was at the G-r-e-e-n-s-p-r-i-n-g nursing home facility in Fairfax County Maryland during June of 2019 ,,, infecting 60 and killing 5 senior citizens. It's a bioweapon psyop to stampede US into taking an injection! Is this chaos part of the NWO reset!

[@methos1999]

@@buttafan4010 the first paragraph was spot on but then the second... oh dear...

[@1953childstar]

There were vaccines for the 1918 pandemic, but that virus immediately caused bacterial pneumonia, for which there were no antibiotics..

[@buttafan4010]

​@@methos1999 Just out of curiosity, had you ever heard of the term furin cleave points mentioned with regards to the sars-cov-2 virus before? How about the name of Dr. Robert Malone ... the molecular biologist who first pioneered mRNA "vaccine" technology; of which this mRNA "vaccine" is the first public roll out of. This is the first time, and Dr. Malone has publicly stated ... repeatedly ... that he is against the "vaccine" mandate; warning that we cannot "vaccinate" our way out of this pandemic using "vaccines" that do not prevent the "vaccinated" from becoming infected nor transmitting their infection to others. This is not like the polio, small pox, measles, or mumps vaccines which are called vaccines because they provide immunization. In fact, the countries and university student populations with the highest rate of mRNA "vaccinations"for covi9 show the highest rates of infection and hospitalization for the waning delta variant. this policy has the potential for the evolutionary select for a more lethal AND contagious variant that is capable of evading these "leaky" mRNA "vaccines".

[@huntergillies1627]

What a great interview with thoughtful questions and intelligent answers. Thank you!

[@afisemenaborevlaka48]

He is giving Fauci answers.

[@monikamir1]

He is a big pharma employee.

[@huntergillies1627]

@@monikamir1 Do you have any questions in the science you would like to discuss?

[@AmanpourandCompany]

Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you!

[@Sole_Soul_Purpose]

It makes me wonder how many variants and their resulting "waves" will affect the world's population before we reach the post Covid-19 era.

[@blobgooll9395]

It's already happening. Omicron is mild and more contagious, which is what most viruses do as they reach the end of their life cycles.

[@tbz1551]

2:45 What do you say to them? You don’t debate someone who’s unvaccinated in Dec 2021, nothing you say will matter.

[@inveele]

Agree with T BZ, Nothing will convince the unvaccinated at this point. Hopefully nature will sort some of them out. But some will continue to live on with their selfishness. I resent the unvaccinated. I hope they perish before sucking up the resources from the rest of us. Hospitals are full because of them. People who have done everything right die because of them.

[@THEREALAKRINIM]

Because you have no argument other than what your tribal leader told you. This clown just said a .5% fatality rate isn't trivial. When applied to anything else that would be considered trivial. Your team has inconsistent logic and changes definitions to fit your narrative. Mass psychosis

[@davidcoleman757]

You have to appeal to their love of conspiracy. I'd say this... 'We [Big Pharma] would like to take this opportunity to thank you [The Unvaccinated] for the supreme sacrifices you have made in the cause of furthering scientific knowledge. Being well educated, you are all of course aware that any scientific experiment on this scale requires a large control sample. Without a control sample we would have no way of measuring the effectiveness of our vaccines. You have, at great cost to yourselves, provided that sample. Thank you! Frankly, we are dumbstruck that you volunteered in such vast numbers. The illness and death you have chosen, selflessly, to visit on yourselves has allowed us to categorically prove that our vaccines work. A grateful nation stands forever in your debt. Yours faithfully...'

[@rrickarr]

Except for the fact that so many people are only getting sick after they were vaccinated. Why do you say vaccine or nothing when vitamin protocols are there for everyone to make use of. Why do you ignore all the research on Vit. D!!!!!

[@bassandtrebleclef]

@@inveele How rational of you. You do know that Denmark's numbers show that the vaccinated are 5x more likely to spread Covid than the unvaccinated?

[@shirleyreese6832]

He makes more sense than ANYONE has thus far in this traumatic pandemic. I have long covid; however, I keep getting vaccinated ( have had my booster). I am a "vulnerable". There isnt a doctor that even cares enough in my city, to help me ( I understand they are overwhelmed and all, but...). Eventually, vax or no vax, this virus is taking me down. I love the neutron bomb metaphor comparison he uses. It is so fitting. I saw the program but it's worth this repeat!

[@greenthumb8266]

Ditto

[@RebootPlanet]

Shirley may I ask how you're treating your Long Covid.. (Protocols)

[@shirleyreese6832]

@@RebootPlanet I'm not. I was on oxygen before I got covid and was 6 liters( an increase of 3 liters). I have brain fog but my doctor rules it as "age thing". He's been no help but actually said there wasn't long covid the first time I had covid come back. The second time I had covid, the the hospital was full. I now have a nodule in my lung so a lung surgeon is the only doctor I see. I live in a state that is somewhat "backwards" IMHO; therefore, healthcare is inept. I dont have long to make it with such lung health. I have given up trying to find help. At 7 liters of oxygen now, and 10 is the highest, my months or years are numbered. I try to do what I can, but I am mostly bed ridden.

[@kikimarie123]

Shirley, I too have had LC but more cardiac and neuro stuff. Didn’t work for 10 months. My coworker got sick at the same time but had more lung issues and only recently went back to work but having lots of problems. She only got better on multiple inhalers and physical therapy. I’m so sorry you don’t have an MD that is supportive. It’s been so frustrating for us LCs not being believed or being told nothing can be done. There are emerging tx’s coming out…sending healing vibes your way…

[@terjeoseberg990]

@@RebootPlanet

[@elenivargis126]

Dr Christakis is very secure and reassuring in his assessment of where we're at w/ Covid.

[@RonMac08]

My work was closed for 12 weeks, I enjoyed it so much that I gave notice two months after returning to work.

[@matthewbittenbender9191]

Can we get a new sound engineer for these podcasts? Whoever does them has the sound so low it's too hard to hear. I thought perhaps they would fix this last year, no one seems to think this to be much of an issue. This is maddening!

[@gingerlori52]

Yes, and what about the so called background noise? Banging drums. Etc. Hate it.

[@oceanside88]

It's still better than many.

[@M_SC]

Turn on the automatic captions. It’s better than nothing

[@matthewbittenbender9191]

@@M_SC good idea, but I often listen when I'm working so it's not convenient. Besides, I shouldn't have to.

[@gipsydanger5020]

@@oceanside88 What a useless defeatist platitude....

[@shorgoth]

I studied sociology a bit only but it became one of the things I love to learn most in my life... funny how his take is exactly how I see this subject. Is it because we see the world under the same prism I wonder. Interesting thing to know, the black plague ended serfdom in most European countries. As people died in droves, especially the poors, entire farmlands turned to wild fields over the years. At that point lords were lacking pesants to tilt the soil and the same pesant realised that through scarcity they had value. The social contract used to be enforced through blodletting, a pesant revolt? Send the soldiers and kill a bunch. But at that point they couldn't afford to loose the hands... plus they had lost a bunch of soldiers too, especially considering outside the personal retenue of the nobles most of the armies numbers were made from conscripts. Anyway long story short, there is a strong chance that modern feudalism (capitalism in its harshest forms with a handfull of noble super richs lording over everyone else) breaks from covid stress, it was already on shaky ground with the growing automation and computers, it was never designed to sustain those repeated shocks. I think the Great Resignation is the first true hit to that system and it is a big one because it breaks the USA-based myths surrounding capitalism and its dogmas, the myth of a perfect and fair system good for the people while in fact it is a system of labour exploitation of the many by the few.

[@blobgooll9395]

LOL, no chance. We are not going to arrive at some socialist utopia. Most people will need to go back to work. Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best system the world has ever seen.

[@shorgoth]

@@blobgooll9395 you are pretty ignorant of the current situation, automation is already redducing the total amount of jobs to near unsustainable levels, in a decade and a half to two decades we can expect the transportation field to go fully automated, that's a huge chunk of the avalible work. Capitalism can't work if there is no monetary circulation and no jobs means starvation in capitalism. When 15 to 25% of the workforce becomes completely unemployable because there are no more jobs or they can't switch to new, more complex jobs, we'll see more crisis, civil unrest for example. This system can't hold, period. Basically traditional jobs are going extinct and you can't sustain an economy with a handfull of people with all the money, that just won't work.

[@bethmoore7722]

Excellent comment, thank you!

[@alywi]

@@shorgoth this is such an interesting topic. I had thought that machines were supposed to mean that people didn’t have to work as hard (growing up in the 80’s). Like the automated checkout at stores now. Having them means those people aren’t needed to complete those tasks, so why can’t they rest and have more fun? Oh. Because capitalism. It’s nice to dream.

[@shorgoth]

@@alywi yes, well, the reason we are only now barely starting to see now the effects of automation but that it will change everything quickly is because technology has an exponential component in its spread and use. What I mean like that is that basically it goes nearly unnoticed for a long time before it hit a critical mass in addoption by the general population then in a few years becomes ubiquitous. Think the first cellphones in the 70's, they were big, unwieldy, and cost over a thousand bucks a month (of that period money) only a handfull of people had them, mainly big ceo and presidents of a few rich countries. They kept being marginal until the 2000 where in the span of 4 years most people had them. Another factor to consider is that the rate of adoption is also accelerating following an exponential curve (though it will plateau at some point) and the rate of discovery of paradygm breaking new tech is also exponential. The reason why is quite simple, better infrastructure, better prodduction tech and the colision between multiple technical fields reaching maturity simultaneously. In 10 years we will probably be hard press even understanding just how much changes happened since this day. Our brain don't think in exponentials, we think additively so we have issues conceptualizing even the near future... Anyway long story short, work is going bye bye for all the "dumb tasks" we are already seeing signs, for example, there is a huge worker shortage here in Quebec (oldest population in the world even worst than Japan) so a few restaurants bought this year first generation robots to serve the tables. For now they are still clunky af, but that's just an early addoption issue, they are and will get much much better really fast as demand rise and they get more tested on the field. Ultimately 1 robot is cheaper than 1 year of worker's salary, as soon as it becomes financially competitive workers will loose the job because those who don't get rid of them will be more costly than competition ergo they won't be able to compete. You will probably keep having a service experience by real humans for a while in more high end places, but fast foods? Mid price places? forget it. Having a human worker will be a status symbol in a way. And all that won't be in 20 years, it already started this year. Now, a lot of compagnies won't do the switch and will probably go extinct, but the new ones? They will be automated early on so the turn over from maned to automated will be invisible, it won't be that your industry kick you for a robot (most of the time), there simply be no hire in new industries, and those will outcompete the maned ones completely, making them unprofitable and unsustainable so they will close. That's how it will go, as it has since automotive industries started to put robots on car assembly lines.

[@alisonburgess345]

Great video - your channel often puts up epic interviews like this. Thanks guys!

[@leftcoaster67]

It's easier to understand the death of one, than the loss of millions.

[@goodnessthentruth]

We haven’t seen a quarter of the consequences of this disease - on our health, our kids’ development, our economy and our culture.

[@mattstirling7494]

It's funny that Dr Christakis describes the thinking of some as 'medieval' when even the medievals did their best to mitigate and overcome various plagues. The classic example is Eyam village in Britain, a place that got the plague and then aggressively and successfully quarantined to stem the plague's northward spread.

[@thomassherer5962]

Many were Smarter in those days

[@antonleimbach648]

That example would never work on a large scale in a interconnected society like ours. I don’t see anyone rejecting the Polio vaccine but they are scared of the Covid-19 vaccine? It’s their choice to roll the dice but it makes no sense to me.

[@TheShipf1]

I think, what he meant by medieval is that they didn’t have the same advancement of Science as today. If we think now like in those times, it is not smart. That’s the point he is making.

[@annefischer1433]

Good point but we have so many more people on the planet and because of all our ill-will and negativity, I believe this is the universe's way of culling the species! There's so many at such a low vibration that resonates with the vibration of these parasites! And that is truth and the only thing to do really is to raise 1' s vibration. And there are many ways to do that. And it is not with drugs.

[@mattstirling7494]

@@TheShipf1 My point is that even in the 17th century, people were doing their best to control the disease

[@gg-sb8mn]

What's medieval is not giving med4all to all our Americans and negotiable drugs.

[@dr.donaldjohnson6683]

The sociologist is brillant.

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

The only reason the fatality rate has dropped to 0.5-1.0% is because of drastic improvements in treatment. At the start of the pandemic the fatality rate was 5-10%. If we hadn’t locked down, the fatality rate for the whole country would look like that first couple weeks in New York we would have had 20,000-100,000 people dying a day vice 1,000-2,000 and several million people could have died. Sweden didn’t lock down and they had 10 times the fatalities of their neighbors. So you can imagine how many would have died in the US.

[@THEREALAKRINIM]

The fatality rate has been the same the whole time. Stop it

[@THEREALAKRINIM]

And Sweden did not have 10 times the fatality rate hence why they were used as a counter argument

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

@@THEREALAKRINIM You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

[@wills8705]

Testing has NOT gotten any better or more accurate, right? Your entire theory/numbers rely on this fact. If tests are superior then perhaps a lot of early deaths were due to other factors and we had plenty of false positives. I don't know I guess that's impossible.

[@susankay497]

Thank you for a rational conversation

[@StrangerInParadise58]

This is one of the best overviews from someone who truly understands these matters. Great interview and education. Thanks for sharing!

[@timothylawson3262]

It's happening right before our eyes, things will never be the same.

[@guybeauregard]

Great conversation. This guy must be awesome to listen to in the classroom!

[@johnbannister501]

If he says every one is triple "vaccinated" when they arrive at his house for Christmas he is going to test them at the door AGAIN....what is this saying about the "jabs" efficacy? Israel is starting to distribute booster number 4.......what will be the result to OUR immune systems....any ideas??

[@neitan6891]

14:15 More than half the European population died during the Black Plague, not less than one percent. One million people sounds like a lot but when you consider how many people there are in the US, it’s really a very tiny percentage. I think we should get vaccinated and get tested after traveling, but staying locked in our houses for two more years or more is untenable. More people will die from suicide if we do that. People need to socialize and live their lives.

[@sfopera]

The Black Plague killed about 1/3 of the European population.

[@cityman1111]

Each and every point that has been raised in this interview is spot on. First time viewer, First time subscriber.

[@juliar.4623]

Thank you so much, this is the best interview on this subject, that I have heard and seen so far. Great interviewer and great guest. Calm, respectful, intelligent, factual. 👍

[@vB-yr8we]

Thank You so much for going over all the aspects of Covid in a way that could be understood,also with what happens next.

[@janiceperkins4340]

WTF HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THEY ALL HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR OVER A YEAR!! YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A SERIOUS COGNITIVE DEFICIT TO THINK HE SAID ANYTHING NEW!🤦‍♀️

[@contenderbp]

There are those who refuse to acknowledge this is real. I don’t understand their ignorance.

[@davidt9238]

It is toally maddening, isn’t it? Armchair “experts” who claim to have greater insight than experts in the field of epidemiologyy, communicable disease. It is time to call them out to their faces as the idiots that they are.

[@codyevans6454]

I think it's pretty clear it's real, we shouldn't box those who are questioning the handling of the pandemic, with those who flat out don't think sars co v 2 exists.

[@morstyrannis1951]

@@codyevans6454 IMHO you’re talking about degrees of hubris and Dunning Kruger Effect. There are far too many people far too unqualified to realize their lack of qualifications. People who dropped out of math and science in junior high school “doing their own research” as if they know how to research a pandemic. After almost two years it’s becoming increasingly difficult to be tolerant much less polite to these deliberately deluded self righteous fools.

[@saffloweroyl3663]

They mistake defiant behavior for edginess or free thinking

[@flygirlfly]

They lack critical thinking abilities. They turn to conspiracy theories, that are easy to digest. This is fueled by the fear created with their lives being turned upside down, with no control over these events. By adopting extreme 'solutions' [ivermectin, anyone?] or fingering a scapegoats [death threats to Dr. Fauci] -- creates the illusion that they are in control.

[@dawncolorado2120]

Okay...at 4:49 he says 6 mos after vaccination you have 84-96% immunity and after naturally acquired immunity (had it with symptoms, exposed and no symptoms, whatever combo produced antibodies) you have 80-93% - per the studies. And frankly most of those publicly funded studies are from outside the US bc we've stopped bothering to study naturally acquired immunity once it was obvious that despite vaccinating there is still significant breakthrough infection. So you're betting on a 3-4%, at best (3% could be a margin of error) possible advantage by getting vaccinated, with a product that still allows you to get and transmit the virus, have symptoms, and requires a yet unknown quantity (possibly infinite) of boosters. It might let you have a less severe case...maybe, but quantifiably unsure by how much. How is this a slam dunk? Any other product that maybe, might, possibly be effective for less severity, but not sure by how much, and still allows you to have the illness and transmit it to others with 40-50%+ breakthrough rates would not be considered an awesome product. And the pharmaceutical companies are raking in money and have been provided with a no liability clause for their product. What more could a corporation hope for!? Something that EVERYONE in the world could be mandated to take, with no liability, and the delicious thought of non-stop boosters. Not saying there was a conspiracy to create the entire pandemic...but the serendipitious confluence of events to create this vaccine mandate...follow the money of the reports of multiple boosters needed, that naturally acquired immunity is somehow less desirable (by a whopping (sarcasm) 3%) and see where logic instead of fear leads you. Leads you to profits.

[@regisnyder]

I had to share this video! I heard it when it aired and hoped that it would be available on KZbin to rewatch it, AND IT WAS! This is so freaking logical on how a pandemic’s (virus) lifespan last especially in the 21st century. I was surprised to hear that we would still be dealing with the aftermath all the way into 2024 but it makes sense - the way he explained it.

[@thisperson3240]

Exactly and he has been saying the same thing since the beginning. Nicholas Christakis is solid.

[@AmanpourandCompany]

Thanks for watching and sharing!

[@janetownley]

I sure hope and pray it’s only “the aftermath” in 2024. Not sure at all that’s accurate

[@jenibarra385]

I disagree. I found this interview annoying because I would have liked if the sociologist stayed in his lane and discussed more sociology. I really hated this segment and I want the 10 minutes of my life back that I spent watching it.

[@karenmorris674]

@@jenibarra385 His "lane" also includes medicine as he is a physician as well as a sociologist.

[@Ahmedkhan8802]

First rate interview. The prof thinks and speaks clearly and stays on point. Well done.

[@waylandjennings4073]

great

[@ld4122]

You ignore the vaccine injuries which can be very serious and debilitating. My mother was thrown into stage 5 kidney failure right after receiving the second vaccine. She had no kidney problem before that.

[@averagejane09]

Yes. Depending on the channel you are watching, the comments will either be slanted to encouraging or discouraging vaccinations and valid arguments either way - and both sides criticizing one another naturally. Just depends on what you aspect you are giving the stage to. I don't see the vaccines as the holy grail and think it is likely that they are contributing to the creation of the variants because they are not strong enough to hold. Viruses mutate when they are cornered. Unvaccinated people pose little challenge. Vaccinated individuals corner the virus, but not 100%. That being said, I am not saying don't get vaccinated. Just saying that there should be choice because I don't think the vaccines are going to save the day, even if everyone gets it and they don't come without high risk.

[@Brock_273]

Thank God for our British NHS where first class free treatment with care and love ❤ is provided by our wonderful Doctors and nurses. Britain is truly blessed. The patient isn't left with huge debt after any hospital visit. We are sooooo blessed. Xx

[@Becky_Cal]

I worked in the UK and with all due respect, your NHS is FAR from perfect. While getting primary care for things like colds, routine preventive care etc is easy and commendable, the minute people need medium-level or high-level care, the system crumbles (8 month waits, last minute cancelations, poor outcomes, etc). I know bc I worked for a consultancy that was tasked with trying to help them solve this and many other problems (they are also grossly underfunded which means cuts in service, low quality care & puts it at-risk in the future). Now, add Brexit to that where the UK’s self-inflicted wound resulted in 40-60k personnel in the health sector returning to their countries and the economic impact to the UK due to COVID and my dear sir, you are all in deep doo-doo, as is the NHS. So, before boasting get informed. Education is your friend.

[@hypnotechno]

@@Becky_Cal would have to agree with all of that. Hope this chap didn't vote for BREXIT

[@missblackwood]

Lol literally every single healthcare system on the planet is hurting because of covid.

[@Brock_273]

I will reiterate the NHS is fantastic and as a nurse who has worked within the acute hospital in the NHS environment I definitely know what I'm talking about. In Britain we are truly blessed xx

[@Brock_273]

Just one more thing ....my brother was a paramedic his wife a front line emergency nurse, I have a sister in law who is a consultant doctor , I have a nephew who is a doctor and a daughter in a midwife, and myself all work or worked to retirement as medical professionals for the incredible NHS. I think I know what I'm saying and I'm educated Xx

[@tomreingold4024]

Fantastic. I’ve been hoping to find this analysis for years, and you illustrated it so well. Thank you.

[@camerajen]

I agree!!!

[@JJMHigner]

That's an excellent question the guest is posing at 16:00-- at what point do humans start to care finally about others. What's the tipping point of death or even life-shortening injury that tends towards real empathy at last? A thousand? Hundred thousand? Million? A billion?

[@davidpaz9389]

Dartmouth Economics Professor Bruce Sacerdote, along with some colleagues, did an analysis on the tone of Covid-19 coverage by the US media. They found that compared to overseas coverage, which was near 50/50 positive to negative, in the US it was, for the specific time studied, 87% negative. Has that changed? How did that affect the mental well-being of individuals who tuned in everyday?

[@MichaelBrewick]

So, 50% of the coverage overseas was positive HOW? Reporting on lower numbers of deaths or new cases? "Tone"

[@davidpaz9389]

@@MichaelBrewick Posted below is an interview Professor Sacerdote did with CBS News. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqGUgGaglt6CeKc

[@MichaelBrewick]

@@davidpaz9389 Thanks! Economics is right, boy howdy. I am glad good news is so popular abroad!

[@davidpaz9389]

@@MichaelBrewick Indeed. Contrary to the results of the University of Arizona study on how long antibody immunity to Covid-19 by infection lasts, as highlighted in the below posted video released on 10/13/2020, the truly informed went with the numerous news stories that antibody response to Covid-19 through infection lasts only 2-3 months. It's no wonder this video didn't go viral, wouldn't you say? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXK5XpuMiNiIqJI

[@MichaelBrewick]

@@davidpaz9389 yes, but aren't these sorts of studies all geared toward a natural virus?

[@luminouscali]

This is such a great interview! He is very knowledgeable.

[@quietcool4884]

He's a story teller embellishing their false narrative and thats all he is. People in black bone rim glasses are NOT TO BE TRUSTED. Any time you see someone in those glasses be very wary of them.

[@johnanton6356]

Is he now?....lol

[@jackfrosty4674]

he lies just so you know they are pushing lies.

[@AbigailRTeh]

The pandemic is a cultural (or collective) trauma that will lead us to reconfigure the way we want to live.

[@ernestscuttle9139]

I don't but it.

[@patrickmckinley6679]

Hi 👋 Abigail, can I talk to you for a moment?

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

Great interview no politics just science and logic!

[@buttafan4010]

No mention of s1 furin cleavage points (that's a molecular biological science fact).

[@jaybeaton9301]

Social sciences are inherently political. Check out who funds his human nature lab.

[@armanigucci6688]

no politics? he called the BLM riots “protests” when they burned down our country for 10 months and killed dozens of people!

[@TikaEls]

Is your comment satire? Or are you actually serious?

[@earthjustice01]

Very informative interview. Thanks for this.

[@mbrights3158]

I very much question what he’s saying near the end of the video (with such confidence)... that without the vaccination program it would probably have been so many more deaths....for starters, consider the fact that more people died in 2021 than died in 2020. That’s hard to just ignore. Because in 2020 there were no vaccines at all. There’s something quite confusing (and seemingly moronic) about the whole situation... basically the entire approach seems to have been a dismal failure. Yet he’s unwilling to even consider anything other than the very narrow narrative.

[@fontainerouge]

Developing his ideas about stage 2 or 3 of the pandemic would have been more interesting than #Omicron assessment which is all over the place.

[@vsrump]

Also most of the time , vaccines don’t make one sick for the immunity it gives !!! I’ve had Pfizer 2x and booster ….and have not gotten sick so I can still see & take care of my patients .

[@tanyabreet5081]

What a wonderful concise and clear interview. Definitely going to share and subscribe. Thank you. Merry xmas from South Africa 🌈

[@dukeon]

Merry Christmas!

[@carlatteniese2]

Thank you host and guest. I’ve heard Dr. Kristakis on Sam Harris’ podcast several times and most recently-saying these same things; and it’s enormously frustrating to realize truths about this and then hear expert thinkers like Kristakis say them. My point is-if I can realize these things, government and scientists should have realized they needed to be said a long time ago… to everyone-in a national, 24/7 broadcasted plenary that people can tune into. The basics of the physics and virology-and most importantly the miracle of MRNA-dealing with COVID-needed to be explained to the average person-Everyone, so he or she does not need to depend on news and You Tube programs; this fed the misinformation: Information Vacuum. The fact that the average American does not know that waiting for natural herd immunity means hundreds of thousands-if not millions-of deaths is not only abysmally stupid-it’s criminal levels of dereliction of government.

[@hbgriss]

Exactly. Nicely written.

[@flygirlfly]

And politicians who are pushing anti-masking and anti-vaxxing, for their own personal gain. Criminal.

[@MarcoBonechi]

The risk varies also by obesity and other pre existing conditions. Not just age.

[@kindredconcoctions6629]

Vitamin D deficient people are at the highest risk and unfortunately so many don't have a clue because they only get their information and narratives from a very small circle of sources instead of looking at what many health care officials and front line workers around the world are discovering. Boosting your immunity is integral to survival of any contagious disease, people really need to understand this. People are lazy and want a quick fix for everything instead of embracing over all well being. The Pharmaceutical Regime loves lazy, unhealthy people.

[@1953childstar]

Exactly !!! The virus loves obese people who eat "fast food"...

[@susanvadencourt1241]

How refreshing. A voice of wisdom, knowledge and reason.

[@dfjflf]

To bad those vaccine injured are being censored. Would love to hear their stories because to me they matter.

[@amyjones2490]

My granddaughter has lived half of her life in lockdown. How are these children going to handle what's happened to them?

[@resourcedragon]

There are a lot of factors involved in how children are going to handle COVID. It depends upon the quality of parenting they get, it depends upon the child's innate personality, it almost certainly depends upon the parents' financial resources. A few kids will probably do better because of COVID than they would otherwise. Others will be about 50-50, some are a lot worse off and the orphans are the worst-off of all.

[@rrickarr]

Te same way people who were alive during WWII survived!!!!!

[@altheawarren729]

I think that’s a very valid concern. I’ll be retiring from teaching in two years. Going back to school for my reading specialist credential to help children who lost (and are losing) vitally important learning. Asking that question tells me your granddaughter will be better off than most. Lots of love and beautiful books!!❤️

[@saffloweroyl3663]

The way my relatives survived hiding in the Polish woods from 1939-1944

[@DolphCas]

Great, great interview!!!! Everyone needs to hear this.

[@june2420111]

Lol the comments. Everyone is suddenly a epidemiologist hahah what a world we live in. Everyone just knows everything. We don't need researchers and Yale professors, we know it all.

[@uptick888]

The Dunning Kruger Effect

[@62Cristoforo]

This sociologist is not an epidemiologist, either yet he is opining well outside his area of expertise.

[@LeilaLeb1]

Hi! Actually he IS an epidemiologist. He wears many hats: physician, epidemiologist, sociologist, author and professor! Slacker!

[@paulsawczyc5019]

You don't need to be a 5 star chef to boil a hot dog.

[@patsymontenegro6884]

He should know then about colective psycosis. He is part of it and it is wrong.

[@tangerinepanther1987]

This confirms what I have been thinking that this pandemic mess won’t be over for 5 to maybe 7 to 10 years

[@radhiadeedou8286]

The virus itself is here forever, the mess in a lot of societies is irreversible

[@franmaud3030]

I wish this person explains why governments banned any forms of treatments other or in conjunction with the almost magic injection.

[@oliviagreenberg497]

GREAT video, play it on ALL the channels all day to educate an uneducated public!

[@garretttedeman]

The best big-picture discussion of current Covid-related circumstances out there right now. Solid & succinct.

[@joycealdrich]

Excellent perspective. Thank you. Sharing.

[@patrickmckinley6679]

Hi 👋 Joyce, can I talk to you for a moment?

[@TA-lt1ph]

I appreciate this cogent explanation of the stages and effects of this pandemic.

[@Umberto2]

We were at the “end of the beginning” last summer as these people were saying. So this a 5 year pandemic at minimum. Eff this. I’m done

[@joeybonin7691]

It peaked in July, 2020, and funny thing is, nobody died of the flu since.

[@Ryan_Christopher]

I’ve been subscribed to PBS for most of my KZbin membership and can remember not a single episode from “last summer” when any guest said, “we’re at the end of the beginning of this pandemic.”

[@ChristiaanHartNibbrig]

Another superb inverview by Hari Sreenivasan. Thank you.

[@paulrobertson7873]

Nick is clearly an intelligent guy who is well positioned to comment on the sociological aspects of the pandemic. I would suggest that watchers investigate the differences between natural immunity which includes broard based immune response to the spike, shell and nucleus of the virus as compared to vaccene induced "imunity" which is only to the spike protein or indeed only parts of it. Please note that the majority of the Omicron mutations (32 out of 50 aproximatly)are on the spike. The implication for this is that vaccinated individuals are likely to have less resistance to this variant that people with infection derived immunity. Good luck to you all, no matter your vaccine status.🙂☮✌

[@deniseg-hill1730]

According to a recent UKHSA vaccine surveillance report the vaccine reduces people's natural immunity. How many boosters will be needed because Israel is on its 4th in 1 year

[@joakimber8831]

Thankyou. Interesting!

[@sandal_thong8631]

Someone said getting infected in terms of future immunity is like getting only one of three vaccine shots. And of course the former's worse for side effects and long term COVID. Two shots plus a booster is better than getting COVID 3x.

[@niclab47]

Which comes down to the basics of protecting sustainable Farming, nutrition, air & water free from toxins that compromise our immune system.

[@miraculixxs]

That is a misinformed statement. Infection with the virus does not confer immunity, none at all that is. The vaccines provide the best immunity as far as possible. Don't get infected folks, the virus causes brain damage, attacks your vascular system and infects your immune system. If you don't die of the virus it will slowly kill you by reducing your body's ability and strengths.

[@mvann5]

Boy this is a very intelligent interview. Thank you for this.

[@cirella1064]

Great video. This person needs to speak on all news channels.

[@FiandMe16]

Not getting vaccinated, not wearing masks, not testing, not isolating, etc. It has nothing to do with reason, or sense and everything to do with politics. Which apparently got hold of the feeling by many that progression to a more humane way of being has pissed off a whole lot of people.

[@radhiadeedou8286]

The exact opposite is also true, you think people who wear masks alone in their car or while hiking in the woods do it for logical health reasons?

[@vmvm3857]

Why do you have such a strong death wish? Why wouldn’t you want to be protected? How is a worldwide health pandemic political?

[@nedsantos1415]

I actually found it enjoyable to spend lots of time with myself during the lockdown.

[@DigOnAmerica]

Its like he's outlining the next phases of the MCU lol. This is a great convo.

[@dawnanewday9671]

We've know this from the beginning. This guy should have been interviewed 2 years ago.