Yamaha R1 v Aprilia RSV4

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At MCN we love the new Aprilia RSV4, but how does it compare to our 2009 1000cc group test winner, the Yamaha R1? Watch the video test to find out....
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@partyman6666
@partyman6666 12 жыл бұрын
The 2 best-sounding modern bikes on the road today!.... awesome!
@chris46p
@chris46p 11 жыл бұрын
I've just bought a 13 plate RSV4 APRC. After owning R1's for the past 5 yrs I can honestly say the Aprilia wins by miles. Maybe if you ride at 30mph in traffic all day you'd want an R1, but on the open roads the RSV kicks ass.
@marktaylor4756
@marktaylor4756 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Powell ł?
@erixlast6020
@erixlast6020 4 жыл бұрын
Wich bike is more planted when riden hard on bad road, pot hole?
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 11 жыл бұрын
Funny to come back to this, now Aprilia has fixed all the issues they mentioned in this video and added so much more value to the bike. And lowered the price by about 30%!
@tony2bro
@tony2bro 14 жыл бұрын
You guys are spot on!!! I know because I rode both on the track and the street with race tires and warmers. The R1 is smoother and more low end grunt and great handling. The RSV4 has very good handling and cool V4 sound. But the RSV4 is way more money. Not to mention when u need repair work done on the RSV4 you have a long wait. Like the total engine recall. But if you have boat loads of money get the factory RSV4 . If your looking for a kick ass fun bike to ride for way less money get the R1
@DougCameraMan
@DougCameraMan 10 жыл бұрын
I'd go with Japanese quality and dependability over the Italian bike and have an extra $4,000 in my pocket when I ride home on the Yamaha instead of the Aprilia. Yamaha has more dealerships in the USA so it should be easier to get parts for it if your out touring and break down in some small one horse town in America. Every mechanic in town knows where he can get parts for a Honda or Yamaha, but I'm not so sure about the Aprilia. So I'd stick with a Japanese bike for their proven quality, lower purchase price, good reliability, good parts availability, and high resale value.
@ahmedbilalabbasi7399
@ahmedbilalabbasi7399 8 жыл бұрын
Hahahh the other mens face is price less when he says aprilla wins the sound competition
@jolseen
@jolseen 15 жыл бұрын
I wish we had some nice twisty roads like that where I live.
@JustinWhyte
@JustinWhyte 14 жыл бұрын
I own an Aprilia RSV and really wanted to get the RSV4. The price difference really didn't bother me. I ended up buying a 2009 R1 for $9999. The main reason is that there are no Aprilia shops within 100 miles of me. I have to drive almost to West Virginia from Baltimore to get my RSV serviced. I had to put emotions aside and make a logical decision.
@og4593
@og4593 Жыл бұрын
I hope you got to try out both
@MrNithinchandran
@MrNithinchandran 14 жыл бұрын
Great review & fantastic video.The view of yamaha with the camera mounted on d fairing is awesome.Yam inline & Aprilia V-4 sounding exactly same.
@timmills4940
@timmills4940 8 жыл бұрын
Well... I have a 2012 RSV4 APRC (Al-Italia livery) and currently 3 R1's and have had a lot more R1's from 98 0n.. and they are my favourite "wrap around" bike i.e. feel at one with, having had everything else such as Gixers, Panigale etc. else almost .... R1 & RSV4 you can not beat the both of them for different reasons...forget the Dukes, Suzi's and Kwakers....IMHO...only been riding/racing for 38 years :D
@raven-jz6cv
@raven-jz6cv 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Mills you tell em brother. 16yrs riding nothing but yamahas
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
For me, it's easy. The CBR has more midrange and top end power, weighs a lot less (and feels like it), is more compact, has a better general seating position (for me), comes with a really good suspension that seems to do it all and just feels like it is a willing partner for any dance. The R1 is larger, heavier, leans you over the front more and has softer power everywhere but down low - and I'm not sure of that, because the computer yanking open the throttle so hard is a gimmick, imho.
@leequigley2077
@leequigley2077 Жыл бұрын
Have you even rode an R1 big bang? And by the way.. cbr isn't in this test
@scottthomson700
@scottthomson700 10 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many Euro bike haters on here have ever actualy owned a duc aprillia or bmw triumph,i suspect very few if any!
@jimmyzoom1143
@jimmyzoom1143 9 жыл бұрын
Scott Thomson amen bro- italian all the way---
@happydays1165
@happydays1165 4 жыл бұрын
Bang on right 👍🏻
@ImW1Cairo
@ImW1Cairo 14 жыл бұрын
@getpoop5509 is the aprilia really cost that much more? and is the sound as good as they say it is? i think thats the only thing i heard them give the aprilia in this video.
@OfficialAlexMac
@OfficialAlexMac 12 жыл бұрын
That first recording of the exhausts made them both sound like lawn movers lol
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
Spot on. But this RSV4 is in another league. And I have a lightened 06 1000 with full exhaust, degreed cams, Ohlins suspension rebuild, thin head gasket and port matching, so I may just know something about this subject. :)
@87apx
@87apx 13 жыл бұрын
what are your top three 600 cc sportbikes? any body reply
@MrCole68
@MrCole68 15 жыл бұрын
i like both these bikes,, i own an 06 rsv and have to say, the r1 does sound great with akro exhaust, but the rsv4 is awsome.. a pipe, power comander and mapping will give the rsv4 what it lacks, if it lacks anything at all.....Cant wait to test both these bikes
@eamh2002
@eamh2002 14 жыл бұрын
In a few years boys will be missing the HOWL of older r1's and that tight sounding scream :)
@Balafoutre
@Balafoutre 15 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with DspecDJ...keep motorcycles pure.
@viper22jc
@viper22jc 15 жыл бұрын
from what I saw in 2009 isle of man tt. most big name team owners had cbrs. they have a full crew to work on those machines. some of the entry level teams had 09 r1s. That makes a big difference when u have 5-10 people working on your bike compared to 5 or less. look it up. I saw the practice sessions and the race. they showed the big name teams and the entry level teams.
@Ayresy_83
@Ayresy_83 12 жыл бұрын
Got to love the R1, both bikes are awesome though
@rama6maiden
@rama6maiden 14 жыл бұрын
is it possible to make an akrapovic exhaust look like the stock one on the aprilia??
@OliverOlding
@OliverOlding 12 жыл бұрын
@raredesign actually, the rs4 50 has only been on sale for roughly 1 year, and there were many 4 stroke 125cc "supersport" (supersport is another name for middle weight bikes i.e. 600cc) bikes around like the yamaha yzfr125, the rieju rs2 125 and the sachs xtc 125. The V4 means its a V4 engine, but I agree with you, they should use a different naming convention
@rheamdc21
@rheamdc21 15 жыл бұрын
@pbmax --- balot and penoy. THE BEST!
@LuckyLe13
@LuckyLe13 14 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, they have the UK spec R1, if you're from the US, the R1 is gutless from 1st through 5th gear because of the timing retardation of the ignition. So it make sense that the R1 is close, if not better in the low to mid band RPM.
@MarkCopo
@MarkCopo 15 жыл бұрын
Great review, really informative. Thanks!
@cott10r
@cott10r 15 жыл бұрын
I own an 09 R1, i really like it, built well, handles very well & looks good. i will say it feels down in power compared to the zx-10R's and gsxr 1K's iv had. in all honesty the new bmw will be the bike to have
@powersliding
@powersliding 14 жыл бұрын
how you know the r1 doesnt charm?? even the tester said its power delivery and gearbox is the one to go for, they said the rsv's engine is the peakier of the two...means its not as playful. charm?
@spliffy666
@spliffy666 12 жыл бұрын
"In 2008,the bikes electronics have been replaced from the usual Nippon-Denso version giving 21 KW/28 HP at the crank to more restrictive Piaggio electronics, most notably the new CDI and EFI on the Carburettor, putting out only 24 HP at the crank to meet the more stringent EURO3 Emissions standards."
@EvenZappa
@EvenZappa 15 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Buttmunch,that's why i always had italian bikes....it doesn't matter if R1 has won the comparison,if i had the bucks i'd buy the Aprilia right away...
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
No, it just yanks the throttle vanes open more than you normally would. I rode the bike and was thoroughly underwhelmed. And I don't like the way Yamaha decides how much throttle I really wanted. I left the demo ride on my Tuono thankful that I didn't pre-order one as I considered. Compared to my bikes, I'd say that my GSX-R 750 hurt a new R1. And my 1000 (modded) which I bought and built for $5500 CDN with some cosmetic scars would murder it. See my track video if you think I'm lying.
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
Well, there's the 1198S and the Aprilia RSV4. Also very, very fast and a bit more unusual. But for the money, I think the CBR 1000RR is probably the best bike available new right now. The 05/6 GSX-R 1000 is probably the best streetable supersport bike ever built, though. Just truly awesome. I've had two, one of which is my track bike, the other which I threw off a cliff at Deal's Gap in the rain. :( For a track bike in general, though.... the new ZX-6R and R6 are awesome on track.
@rama6maiden
@rama6maiden 14 жыл бұрын
im going to buy a yamaha when i become 21 but i would stil pick the aprilia over it cause of the suspension and quality!!
@raskioo
@raskioo 15 жыл бұрын
hey did you forget whats a suberbike for? for racing not for go shopping!! or posing
@MapleHue
@MapleHue 12 жыл бұрын
lol yeah :D I'm not familiar with bikes (yet), so I assumed the Aprilia was a 2-stroke because the 125cc model (RS4) is.
@MrLuigiFercotti
@MrLuigiFercotti 13 жыл бұрын
This like deciding between which superhot SI swimsuit model to want to date. You're gonna have some serious arm candy not matter what.
@LasX2
@LasX2 13 жыл бұрын
*Asks guy in red* .... * Guy nods *
@dhsnfuducndausfvusdf
@dhsnfuducndausfvusdf 14 жыл бұрын
They are both beautiful machines and winner in their own rights. The rsv4 is a fountian of Italian passion and flare. Dropdead gogeous in every aspects but lacks the practicality, usability and reliability of the pinpoint precise r1. I reckon that the r1 will be faster but I'll take the aprilia anyday cos it reminds me what biking is all about and make me feels 12 years old. But if I have those money I will surely go for the Ducati Desmosedici rr.
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I only have 30 years of riding, and presently own four bikes, one of which is an ex-Canadian Superbike series champion (185whp, 390lbs, 520 conversion, etc.). What do I know?
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
I'd say that they're all awesome. But if I had to choose between the R1 and the CBR 1000RR? It'd be the Honda. I've ridden both of them, and the R1 is a lot less bike as far as I'm concerned.
@zoomvidsjc1
@zoomvidsjc1 15 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself. When you see a guys on kawi z1000 naked bikes in the expert class at track days running the same lap times as people with the latest and greatest you know only an world class superstar could fully exploit either of these bikes let alone boy racers and even advanced track day riders. That leaves something else to consider like style and uniqueness. The reason I even look at this r1 is that it has something different about it.
@BigRayH
@BigRayH 15 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the Japan bkes are much more reliable. I have never owned a Italian bike but I have buds who have them and and from my perspective, All the ones with Italian bikes are in the shop a lot more than us with Japanese bikes. Don't get me wrong when I can afford a Ducati (They are so pretty) I will be in the dealership with the quickness and have one in the garage.
@vampov
@vampov 14 жыл бұрын
The battle on the track has already been decided RSV4 WSBK
@rcpilot825
@rcpilot825 14 жыл бұрын
red and black jumpsuit guy is the best reviewer ever
@BumkengOfficial
@BumkengOfficial 15 жыл бұрын
The R1 is the monster of them but the rsv4 looks a little bit better ..... they aren't cheap :(
@raredesign
@raredesign 12 жыл бұрын
The 4 in RS4 does not stand for 4-stroke. The RS4 50 is a 2-stroke that has been popular for years. The RS4 125 was a ground breaker as the first 4-stroke in the 125cc supersport class. The RSV4 is a whole other breed. They should have chosen other naming conventions so it wasn't so confusing, lol.
@sureshkumar866
@sureshkumar866 10 жыл бұрын
which is the best 1000cc bikes available in india
@phoenix1925
@phoenix1925 10 жыл бұрын
cow 1000rr
@yamasubaruger
@yamasubaruger 15 жыл бұрын
Aperently that 4,000 extra for "Brembos" and "Ohlins" does not = too a < machine so put that 4,000 in to the R1 and you would have a much beter bike all around.I know what you mean about not being unique; that is just one reason wy I do not care to own a croch "rockit" rocket, I prefer the SV650 (NAKiD NOT SPORT) because you can use all the power, have a more unique looking and sounding bike , have no fairings to break and by and as a result have cheaper insurance.
@nonekeer
@nonekeer 14 жыл бұрын
The aprillia is a beautiful machine. The R1 doesn't have the looks,... The aprilia gives you the feeling of real biking. although my top 3 is: 1. Ducati desmosedici 2.aprilia rsv4 3. Mv agusta F4
@wabashofutah
@wabashofutah 14 жыл бұрын
Still using the knee dragging style from Kenny Roberts :) I wouldn't care, both bikes are amazing.
@Matua01
@Matua01 16 күн бұрын
Great presenter.
@acetelenta
@acetelenta 15 жыл бұрын
i think that the Italy bikes are far to expensive. It just doesnt worth to give 40-50% more for them and in the reality with the r1 you get an outstanding bike.
@Cantabinexile
@Cantabinexile 15 жыл бұрын
Most of the big name teams did have Blades, the reason being that they are a better bike for road racing than he R1 is currently, Relentless had total mare of a week with the Aussie boy causing damage to himself in pratice and Bruce didn't get any luck all week. I'm sure that in a few months that as the S1000RR comes that will be the best bike ever (according to MCN) Have a read of Bike UK mag and Visor Down UK mag (formely Two Wheels) I think you will they rate the Blade as number 1
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
I rode the new R1 and I felt that it was flat powered and the "grunt" they go on and on about is just the computer yanking the throttle valves open more than you normally would on your own - don't believe me? Just grab a big handful on a standard i4 bike and see what happens. I did, my 750 feels just as strong if you're hamfisted with it. I just was nowhere near as impressed with the R1 as MCN is... and it makes you wonder why all the other magazines are on my side...
@Roxak
@Roxak 12 жыл бұрын
True for most of the specs... But You can't deny a Ducatis brembo braking system against the Tokico and Nissin etc... The feel alone is worth the money... Also for the suspension elements... Im no pro-rider either, but clearly can tell a difference... Question is, if its really needed to spend more money or not...
@MuerteQuerida
@MuerteQuerida 15 жыл бұрын
You can't compare an Aprilia or a new Ducati 1198S, because the crossplane crankshaft is the best engine on the superbike market. In fact, the R1 is the Bike of the year 2009. Is more compact, explsive and best-looking than an Aprilia. Sorry by italian makers, because their bikes are knowed as the best (The Augusta Remain as the Top superbike), but Yamaha made a Home-Run with this R1 and this revolutionary engine.
@87apx
@87apx 13 жыл бұрын
@hsc87 but you just said that the cbr ninja and gsxr are the best in the 600 class
@xarcherx987
@xarcherx987 15 жыл бұрын
Australian MCN also rated the r1 out of 12 litrebikes.
@Th3Gr33k
@Th3Gr33k 15 жыл бұрын
People are saying £4 more for the aprilia... Just wait for the none Factory version which will cost the same as the R1. Will be interesting what they think... Maybe they will try to make it more "road friendly"? Will be interesting.
@dervolker
@dervolker 15 жыл бұрын
i do love my aprilia falco then next thing would be the rsv4 but this will be in a few years when i'm able to afford one(currently sitll in school)
@Bostoneats22
@Bostoneats22 15 жыл бұрын
I would take the R1 because 1. I love yamaha. My dad uses their outboards. I like aprilla. My choice would be the R1 but i reackon the Aprilla would beat it in the top speed. I am 16 pleae post me if i am wrong. Thanks
@WeekendPirate
@WeekendPirate 13 жыл бұрын
isnt it... *nods head*
@dukviper90
@dukviper90 14 жыл бұрын
@vampov 99-02 yamaha r6's were the only ones known to have transmission problems. the 2nd gear would slip becase of a weak dog gear. But most mechanics will tell you yamaha makes the most durable top ends for their engines. My engine had 31,000 miles on it and did not need valve service.
@Markbiker21
@Markbiker21 15 жыл бұрын
i don'r care about who is the best i love the two bikes
@pacrat90
@pacrat90 13 жыл бұрын
@MrR1wheelieking Aprilia isn't in motoGP... you mean SBK?
@AlekreSD
@AlekreSD 14 жыл бұрын
@powersliding It doesnt have charm. Its just good machine. There's plenty of R1's on the streets, owners are mostly people that buy it just for show off. There's real bikers but not many. I dont say its bad, its good bike, but i will pick Aprilia because i want to be different. U must admint that RSV is very distinctive with beautiful styling. It has her cons but is the machine that i will LOVE IT. R1 cant take my feeling like Aprilia. Cheers, have a nice day.
@Cantabinexile
@Cantabinexile 15 жыл бұрын
I liked the comment at the end saying that the Mighty R1 has won everything in 2009...... Hmm they must not have been paying attention to the results of the Isle of Man TT then as the CBR came in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th in the Superstock race. Don't even think it made the top 10
@spliffy666
@spliffy666 12 жыл бұрын
Firstly, i'm not your mate. It depends on which RS125 you have. If you have the fully tuned, full power, de-restricted model, then yes, it will piss all over a ninja, but if you buy a ninja and an rs from the same year, say 2009, the 33bhp ninja has the advantage over the 24bhp RS, not to mention the reliability factor.
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
Traction control is only available on the 1098R and the 1198S as far as I know. Everyone else has engine modes or nothing. Kawasaki's system isn't really TCS. The R1, GSX-Rs, RSV4, have mode switches for power output but of them the R1 and RSV4's are better... the Suzuki's system really kills power in the other modes so is not as useful on the track as the other two. Honestly, I'm not sure I like traction control on my bikes. My traction control is my right hand. Ducati's is GOOD, tho.
@JakeHT91
@JakeHT91 15 жыл бұрын
I wish that someone makes 1000cc 2-stroke superbike.
@Jmartin2683
@Jmartin2683 15 жыл бұрын
well damn that seals the deal for me. if motojournos love it i cant go wrong!
@powersliding
@powersliding 14 жыл бұрын
i disagree regarding the R1 but i completely agree regarding the RSV4
@DspecDJ
@DspecDJ 15 жыл бұрын
personally I would say stay away from traction control if you're looking to REALLY improve your track skill, it's just a band-aid. Learn to control wheel-spin with your wrist and you'll start to recognize what's going on by the attitude of the bike, rather than a computer butting in saying "nope, way too much throttle here, let's just back that off a bit." And get a 600 before a 1000 for track, if you start track riding on a 1000 you will have a VERY SLOW learning curve.
@BIGGESTxxEMINEMxxFAN
@BIGGESTxxEMINEMxxFAN 13 жыл бұрын
R1 looks way better , but of course looks dont matter when your wanting to have fun //
@DARIO4631
@DARIO4631 15 жыл бұрын
nice bikes buth i would go for the rsv4
@MapleHue
@MapleHue 12 жыл бұрын
Alright, my bad. Assumed it was, seeing as how the RS4 125 is a 2-stroke. I don't know much about them bikes hehe.
@zoomvidsjc1
@zoomvidsjc1 15 жыл бұрын
Also, like most people (boy racers included) I wanted the fastest bike when I first started riding and got a cbr600. Just like all those gixxer fanboys. While great bikes after a while you grow to appreciate other qualities and experiences. Most of the people who rip on other bikes are the ones who reply to the what kind of bike do you have question with "I have a Suzuki" answer instead of the actual bike name. You just know that person is a poser.
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
The R1 placed last in most of the other magazines, as well.
@MrCloobey
@MrCloobey 13 жыл бұрын
Had Lots & Lots Of Litre Bikes & The Factory RSV 4 Is Without Doubt The Best !!! Then The Mighty Gixer 1000 K5 But Thats Just Me, Mind You All Modern Sportsbikes Are Awesome !!!! Just Get Out There & Njoy.
@VituMV
@VituMV 14 жыл бұрын
on that first shot of them riding, the aprilia is running from the r1 like a prey from its predator... R1 power
@woodrax
@woodrax 15 жыл бұрын
That is the Factory model, with all the trick parts.
@viper22jc
@viper22jc 15 жыл бұрын
U are talking about relentless suzuki. they had he fastest bike on isle of man 2009, but mishaps kept happening for them. As for the r1 vs the blade. I think that these two are going to keep swapping the best bike badge. In a year or two Yamaha will make improvements and aslo the same for Honda. As for the s1000rr, dont hold your breath. I just read about it on Motorcyclist mag. I will look more into it on other mags as well..
@I-Need-Saving
@I-Need-Saving 13 жыл бұрын
@87apx CBR, Ninja, and GSXR but thats just my opinion.
@coors1800
@coors1800 12 жыл бұрын
I am a non pro rider/racer but.. I ride everyday no mater what, own several bikes and no cars. I can tell a diffrence. bottom line the diffrences are personal prefrence most of the time. I personally do not like the new bikes. to many computers helping you ride and waiting to break down. I am also a tall guy so the lil bikes cramp me. my personal favorite overall. Suzuki TL1000R but if u wanna whip into corners and drag knees I love the 04 R6
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 15 жыл бұрын
$22K USD, $15K UK. For the Factory.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 12 жыл бұрын
No it isn't.
@tramagacity
@tramagacity 14 жыл бұрын
R1 is the winner. RSV very beautiful bike, not as reliable as R1,hard to find shops/dealers fro service etc...
@Chuckmeister92
@Chuckmeister92 15 жыл бұрын
The aprilia is only 15k? I thought it was pushing 30... or was that the factory bike?
@bruninja
@bruninja 14 жыл бұрын
bouth bikes are gods.. just a question of stile and adaptacion ..in our days we dont have nothng "much better.." so my friends dont say mine is much better than yours !! zx10, R1, 1198, S1000rr, gsxr1000, cbr1000rr, RSV1000, the tecnology of these bikes are.. the best you can get in high-sports bikes! is an option of a small details for a good bikes!
@yannick4123
@yannick4123 13 жыл бұрын
The R1 is cheaper to run and more reliable tho... but id get the RSV 2
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 15 жыл бұрын
1.Honda/suzuki 2.Yamaha 3.Kawasaki
@5h4d0w990
@5h4d0w990 15 жыл бұрын
...did any of these tests happen to specify WHICH of the 3 Drive modes it was on? I mean, "Slow throttle response, somewhat slower at the bottom, etc", sounds like it was left in "sport" mode, not switched to Race. Also, of COURSE the R1 is going to take it for street manners...Aprilia builds Race bikes, then adds turn signals and headlights so nutcases can drive them on the road :-P
@navouxodonosor
@navouxodonosor 15 жыл бұрын
The fact that you can bye a cheaper bike that is faster does not mean at all that its better..
@AwGsharpie
@AwGsharpie 15 жыл бұрын
R1 is much better such a good bike i love it
@bigbenballin15
@bigbenballin15 13 жыл бұрын
both are amazing bikes if u ask me :)
@1971ratrace
@1971ratrace 15 жыл бұрын
It´s good to ear the true. I suppose the Yamaha is the best liter bike altought i own the new cbr1000rr. After all is better than the aprilia too?!
@indieKook
@indieKook 14 жыл бұрын
@yveskhadra yeah rsv4 is monstrous ! r1 is just popular...
@dukviper90
@dukviper90 14 жыл бұрын
I love yamaha to death, but every video i watch from MCN that is comparing a bike to a yamaha r1, the r1 always seems to win and the one dude is a yamaha fanboy. They seem Just a bit bias.
@Jmartin2683
@Jmartin2683 15 жыл бұрын
an outstanding bike... with no soul that everyone and their grandmother owns.
@viper22jc
@viper22jc 15 жыл бұрын
the euro spec bike have more power then the us spec bikes. thats why u.s. magazines rate the R1 lower, but in europe where emissions are not as harsh as in the u.s. those motorcycles have more power. U.S. R1s lose about 6-7 ponies just because of emissions compared to Euro spec bikes...
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