Yamaha R7 | Road + Track Review

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44Teeth

44Teeth

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@blipco5
@blipco5 3 жыл бұрын
Most riders don't need any more than what this R7 provides. And a really skilled rider would have a blast on it.
@blipco5
@blipco5 10 ай бұрын
@flippy5118 I think the GSX 8S is now a better choice.
@rodevil77
@rodevil77 10 ай бұрын
​@@blipco5 wait for the R9 😊
@blipco5
@blipco5 10 ай бұрын
@@rodevil77 I have four bikes. I’m all set for now.
@NiSE_Rafter
@NiSE_Rafter 3 жыл бұрын
Yes finally! I've been waiting for you guys to get your hands on the R7. Your reviews feel way more realistic and include critical points way better then the mainstream outlets.
@RSHeth1390
@RSHeth1390 3 жыл бұрын
Those 60th Anniversary colours are beautiful 😍
@danlford
@danlford 3 жыл бұрын
Are they available in the USA? This is the first time I've laid eyes on that color scheme.
@danlford
@danlford 3 жыл бұрын
@motorguitarcycle I like the RR but the gt they just released is uuuuggglllyyy!!! IMO of course. Those 60th anniversary Yamaha colors are beautiful.
@mac5917
@mac5917 7 ай бұрын
With the akra exhaust Gytr it looks absolutely insane
@pumagryph
@pumagryph 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh it's only 72hp... Shut up mate" Liked and Subscribed right there. Same blokes winging on about the new Z650RS and complaints that it's not a 4 like the original one. Guess what, the new twin has the same power as the old 4 cyl bike. Bunch of plonkers.
@calumhenderson1681
@calumhenderson1681 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like sh*t, though.
@adolfshitler
@adolfshitler 3 жыл бұрын
44 years ago, so much for progression!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 3 жыл бұрын
Plus if they want more power they can scoot right over to a half dozen bikes that will do it.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 3 жыл бұрын
@Motocross Gus Fuss Kawasaki is running 180° crank, ever since 2006 when the lump came out.
@Stratocasterhead51
@Stratocasterhead51 2 жыл бұрын
Engine sounds like a lawn mower and you are paying z900 money for mt07 power. Sounds like a great deal(!) But you know, you could enjoy a go kart track on this i guess… Joking aside this would be a good bike if it was 1.5 grand cheaper. As it stands you are paying far too much for an mt07 with some fairing and slightly less budget suspension.
@gnarshread
@gnarshread 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they've taken proven parts and refined them into a really enjoyable package for riders with a bit of talent who aren't interested in 200+ hp.
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much nailed it
@Wilberon_McBane
@Wilberon_McBane 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree dude. But I'll also add that along with enjoyment, bit of talent and not necessarily needing 200bhp, there's the final point that many of us (myself included) can't afford the 200bhp Superbikes even if I wanted one anyway. Watching the "big boys" at trackdays when I'm on shonky old SV Minitwin you see them piling in fuel, ripping through tyres and generally just looking like it costs an absolute fortune to keep them going. I just fill my tank up and crack on for the day. Same tyres wet/dry/whatever and always have a massive laugh. I reckon one of these would be exactly the same smiles per pound 😎👍
@ReignitedAuto
@ReignitedAuto 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just classic American sensibilities, but who doesn't want 200hp? My 2005 ZX10R has way more power than I can use, dont care, want more 😄
@martinfirth908
@martinfirth908 3 жыл бұрын
You could just go buy an older 600cc super sport for cheaper and have an infinitely better time with that talent. Plus the 200hp bikes are easy as hell to ride. I know, I have one, the aids do all the work. I went from a 2004 164hp GSR1000 to a 2021 200hp R1, the R1 is so easy to ride. I don't even have to try. Turning the aids off is another story however. This bike is a budget bike, aimed at those who can't afford better. Let's not sugar coat it.
@kiztime1234
@kiztime1234 3 жыл бұрын
@@martinfirth908 Do you reckon you could pedal your R1 faster around a track than @44Teeth could get this R7 around it?
@Terraceview
@Terraceview 3 жыл бұрын
I still have better memories of my NC30 than I have of all these 1000cc superbikes I owned. This bike makes perfect sense.
@doug3011
@doug3011 3 жыл бұрын
so good to see stathe on a review again. in the sunshine.. feels like its been ages. the bike looks really cool.
@cliveramsbotty6077
@cliveramsbotty6077 3 жыл бұрын
they're all great on 44 teeth but yeah this is the kind of review where fagan should be top of the list
@timothymills733
@timothymills733 3 жыл бұрын
Cue all the keyboard racers who couldn't ride this bike to it's limits, but still think it needs more power :-)
@alanv3185
@alanv3185 3 жыл бұрын
You always need more power even if you're never going to use it. Imagine a tornado comes out of no where and then BOOM YOU'RE IN A YAMAHA COMMERCIAL! That's when you use all the power you never got to use. Imagine if you don't have enough power then. The tornado eats you up and you're dead AND MORE IMPORTANTLY...you're not in the yamaha commercial. A nightmare
@Ze-Germanzuk
@Ze-Germanzuk 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair it's a ballache riding a low powered bike on the road. I ride a 1000 not because I think I'm Rossi... I'm just lazy, I want to be able to do 100mph in 1st gear and 30mph in 6th. 1000cc Sportbikes just make better road bikes than smaller capacity sportsbikes.
@ErikLosLobos
@ErikLosLobos 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares. It sounds dull as fook. End of story.
@pauly1k
@pauly1k 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I just want something fun. Litre bikes and I4s in general are boring to me. People love the mt07 for the fun factor. I wonder if this is in the same vein.
@Mockle07
@Mockle07 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because the only possible reason for wanting more power is because you are riding your bike to its absolute limit 🙄
@torr-michaelbennetta9785
@torr-michaelbennetta9785 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, brilliant bike. Props to Yamaha for understanding the market. I have almost 3000 miles on on of these in the twisty backroads, and with minor mods it rips and it shines.
@ronsmith6110
@ronsmith6110 3 жыл бұрын
Fair play. Seen a load of reviews on this & was wondering what Al was going to think. It sounds like they've done what they did with the Tenere 700 and did a great job with a simple formula. I've never had a problem with it being called an R7. I did have an issue with people talking about a happy shopper as if it was the second coming, the hype of this bike has been huge. But based on this, fair play to Yamaha. Nothing against any good bike being created!
@iainwhite3476
@iainwhite3476 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a ex sports bike rider who thought the scene was all hipster nakeds now, these lads make me believe sports bike are relevant again 🤘👍👍
@motosejid1876
@motosejid1876 3 жыл бұрын
The review I’ve been waiting for 😜
@shadowred1980
@shadowred1980 3 жыл бұрын
As many others have said, I'd be in the queue if Yamaha made the much rumored R9. Great review as always. :)
@chasp_0784
@chasp_0784 3 жыл бұрын
@motorguitarcycleyeah I do t understand the people who don’t get it,”it’s 900cc already so r1” but it’s the right gap in horsepower. 75-120-180
@paigntonbeach
@paigntonbeach 3 жыл бұрын
They are making it .
@chasp_0784
@chasp_0784 3 жыл бұрын
@@paigntonbeach it’s the right move, hopefully it’s mt09sp furniture. Could still be slower than an r6 I reckon
@jpslayermayor9293
@jpslayermayor9293 3 жыл бұрын
Same - provided they dont overprice it as they did this bike. If Yamaha is going to go own route of leveraging existing engine and frame trom MT-09 saving basically 90% plus development costs of a new bike, then we the riding enthusiast can logically assume they'll pass along that cost efficiency and not take advantage of the situation.
@Kaizoushin
@Kaizoushin 3 жыл бұрын
Soon...
@JPWest020
@JPWest020 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Yamaha will consider a R9 with the CP3 engine in the same spirit as this R7. Bit more power than the R7 but way more livable than the R1. Oh and that beautiful sounding 3 cylinder 😃
@timjrvine
@timjrvine 3 жыл бұрын
I reckon they will.
@robbikebob
@robbikebob 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't an R9 take sales off both the R7 and R1 though?
@JPWest020
@JPWest020 3 жыл бұрын
@@robbikebob It probably will - at least a bit. Not too much I reckon.
@thecaptain5344
@thecaptain5344 3 жыл бұрын
@@robbikebob sales of superbikes are already down - the whole reason for these middleweight sports bikes making such a splash is that people don't want crazy performance for the roads. For the people who want an R1 or a superbike, I don't think the presence of the R9 will do that. However, I think we would see more people who aren't comfortable with the R1 go for the R9. It would have the perfect amount of power for the road.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecaptain5344 it's got more to do with cycles of trends. sportsbikes were very "in" for a long time, and saw lots of innovation, however most of that innovation became centered around the archetype racing classes, and once emissions entered the chat it quickly became less viable to keep funding r&d for said bikes. Especially the 600 class bikes were so stretched out that you could no longer justify the bump up in price per generation, without the equal bump in performance. That's why only the flagship superbike segment continues to shine. Instead other segments took over where middleweight sportsbikes left the scene, stuff like retro street bikes, adv bikes, etc proved to be equally successful and started receiving lots of investment from companies - which in turn made these segments even more popular amongst buyers, because buyers are naturally more interested in the segments that receive most fundings and improve the most from generation to generation. Popularity creates trends, etc. However, with the re-introduction of the middleweight sporty segment and proving that classic sportsbikes still have a place in riders' hearts, this may very well change the scene again over the next couple of years - and make non-race standard classes more appealing (not just for riders, but for the companies to invest into). There are clear patterned cycles of trends that take over from each other. And middleweight sporty bikes are definitely on the rise again, albeit in a slightly new package compared to prior years' raceclass bred replica sportsbikes.
@Supercharged1976
@Supercharged1976 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to your budget bike battle. Love that series. It's almost like I'm along for the trip.
@Bigyin600
@Bigyin600 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god you're back. I had withdrawal from my usual Monday evening 44 teeth vid last week. As Stathe says the market has changed hugely along with the racing classes. 20 years ago i was tearing round on a ZX636 saying i didnt need a 1000cc sports bike. A few mates have CP2 and CP3 engined Yamaha's and they rave about them so the R7 seems a natural progression in the middleweight class
@WalkerKlondyke
@WalkerKlondyke 3 жыл бұрын
This class has really come into its own. Looking forward to what the competitive market brings us in the next few years.
@olivialambert4124
@olivialambert4124 3 жыл бұрын
Got to love the speedo display. As one of the few supersports die hards I definitely lament the death of the R6, but little details like that can at least cheer me up.
@MrLillywhite2011
@MrLillywhite2011 3 жыл бұрын
I agree but the specs are shocking the vfr400 1991 poos all over this bike
@scottgilmour2135
@scottgilmour2135 3 жыл бұрын
I hope Triumph do something like this with Dynavolt on the 765rs. That Blue and White R7 looked fantastic 🤙🏻 Great review 👍🏻
@grachoderunwiderstehlichen
@grachoderunwiderstehlichen 3 жыл бұрын
😲 the Benelli 752S with lower Assambly Costs -perhaps it could be a Limonade-Racer in a alternate way....
@Maccaroney
@Maccaroney 3 жыл бұрын
"There's no anti-wheelie" Huh, wonder why.
@grachoderunwiderstehlichen
@grachoderunwiderstehlichen 3 жыл бұрын
Do not worry , 125ccm YZF-R the same missing option....
@sosathesavage6520
@sosathesavage6520 3 жыл бұрын
We know why..we just aren’t willing to accept it yet
@stewartmckinley7639
@stewartmckinley7639 3 жыл бұрын
Be that don't sell cheap bikes to kids
@wristcandy5451
@wristcandy5451 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a tripple. Fun in the sun! Yamaha are doing a lot right. Being a twin means you have the power where you'll use it most
@Way-M
@Way-M 3 жыл бұрын
The bike itself looks very good. The contrast with an R6 is noticeable. I just wish they added the cut outs on the handlebars like they do on all the other models. I think if you add the parts on the GYTR onto it then it’s gotta be a weapon!
@JamesBond-ph6hr
@JamesBond-ph6hr 3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing that every review heavily critiques the aggressive ergos…but it’s obviously got textbook supersport ergos so I’m not sure if nobody expected it to be this aggressive or it’s just the most aggressive ergos ever seen on a motorcycle.
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 жыл бұрын
It was more of a surprise than anything. There's never been a bike in this class that has such extreme ergos. Even the Aprilia feels like an armchair
@gregorysteffensen3279
@gregorysteffensen3279 3 жыл бұрын
I think the extreme ergos are even more apparent over here in the US where we *don't* get the Tracer (the only Tracer we get is the increasingly pricey T9GT), so there's a neutral-ergo naked and a race-tucked full-fairing bike with this motor, but nothing in-between on 17" wheels (I'd probably buy the Tenere if I wanted to tour on this motor)
@JamesBond-ph6hr
@JamesBond-ph6hr 3 жыл бұрын
@@FortyFourTeeth that’s a little concerning. I’ve purchased it sight unseen (subject to test ride) as they don’t launch in Australia until December. To make things worse I’ve owned a very comfortable mt07 and bought the r7 because it looks amazing…but I also have a bulging disc in my lower back and am 195cm. I just don’t think the r7 will work. While significantly more expensive, is the rs660 more comfortable?
@BackwardsMarathonPSU
@BackwardsMarathonPSU 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBond-ph6hr it is way more comfortable. I’ve sat on both and not only is the aprilia way more upright…the seat it has is soft and super comfortable. Honestly it’s a bit too soft for my liking…as I think it makes it a bit hard to shift around on the track.
@danlford
@danlford 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBond-ph6hr dude the research has been yours for the taking for months now. Every review that I've seen or read has included the fact that the bikes ergos are almost as aggressive as the r6.
@alexhunt2334
@alexhunt2334 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Al, been waiting for this one 👍 that gytr spec looks awesome
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 жыл бұрын
No, thank you Alex!
@ramosrocksurmom9826
@ramosrocksurmom9826 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find those gytr parts for sale?!
@jamesmadigan4379
@jamesmadigan4379 3 жыл бұрын
Another quality review… I love to see yet another 44 teeth video uploaded, tops!
@ImLeuff
@ImLeuff 3 жыл бұрын
R7 vs RS660 on british roads is going to be just amazing, can't wait
@morri03
@morri03 3 жыл бұрын
Not really competitors though. Aprilia is a lot more powerful and considerably more expensive
@ImLeuff
@ImLeuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@morri03 i know but the whole point of this lineup is to punch above its weight, for example the Tenere 700. Its not an Africa Twin rival but if it can do the same thrills for considerably cheaper..
@Dunkensb
@Dunkensb 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen the Aprilias for £9300 so money wise not that far apart
@RACKzMx
@RACKzMx 3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting one. I’ve road 600, 1000 and to me Yamaha got this right. In order for me to have fun on the other bikes I had to be up in the rpm especially 600s by that time I’m risking going to jail bc I’m going way to fast 😂 I don’t go to the track.! So this bike is perfect for me it wheelie, handle amazing, have more torque then 600s and quick. With a few mods to squeeze a little more out the engine. 🤩
@Midnight_Snakk
@Midnight_Snakk 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I officially creamed my pants 13:15. I absolutely cannot wait to get my hands on this motorbike. Brings a tear to my eye to imagine planting my cheeks on this beauty. Great video btw! Even if I am a little late to the party. Edit: Just felt the need to say, I LOVE the implementation of both road-focused, and track-day focused footage. Really shows what this bike is capable of. Thank you.
@kenny26290
@kenny26290 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, always wait for your guys video even if every other UK reviewer is on the same launch. Congrats on the 250k subs as well
@ImLeuff
@ImLeuff 3 жыл бұрын
The MT07 family of bikes is stupid appealing. If you have the (relatively affordable) price money, the biggest problem is picking which one you want. I thought I wanted the Tenere 700 but I'm not sure anymore
@zander8752
@zander8752 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY a video where they PROPERLY ride this thing, currently own an mt07 and am sorely tempted by this
@cipher2508
@cipher2508 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you guys compare R7, RS 660 & CBR650R in a video Thanx guys
@ozzyg82
@ozzyg82 3 жыл бұрын
Yass 😻
@robbikebob
@robbikebob 3 жыл бұрын
It would also be good to see a street triple thrown in there to see if you actually need the fairing and racing crouch. ..
@Jay-yg8jj
@Jay-yg8jj 3 жыл бұрын
The RS660 would slaughter it. And for the price difference, it should lol
@TheScortUK
@TheScortUK 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, how I've missed my 44Teeth fix! Thanks for the vid chaps
@elovaughnelwell8980
@elovaughnelwell8980 3 жыл бұрын
Nice intro with the music, montage, and commentary: keep up the great work 👌
@xtremebroccoli
@xtremebroccoli 3 жыл бұрын
What a motor. Seems to be such a hit no matter the platform. Yamaha may be convincing me to give one a test ride…
@JB-rp6it
@JB-rp6it 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking it’s been a minute since I’ve seen some 44 teeth content. What a nice bike to return with 👍
@druidx1690
@druidx1690 3 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this video since the R7 was announced, anyone else itching to see a middleweight supersport 'mega-test'?
@andrewwiltse8882
@andrewwiltse8882 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Al! Looks like we’ll be seeing more of this one at the races!😎🍻
@phillipturner4945
@phillipturner4945 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you guys are back.....was starting to get worried.
@Kurlach
@Kurlach 3 жыл бұрын
I like the look of this. Just bought a Gen 3 Busa and every time I look down I’m doing triple figures, which isn’t great for the licence. I like the idea of this, something I can legitimately push in the bends and have a good laugh on.
@PeppyZeb
@PeppyZeb 3 жыл бұрын
They absolutely need to make a sports bike with the 850 triple engine. I have an XSR900 and the engine is a diamond. They would then have a twin, triple and inline 4 sports bike
@Bi6M4C
@Bi6M4C 3 жыл бұрын
in the first few minutes with the 'oooh shut up' u are completly right. people always bitchin about this bike but I swear it looks awesome it has an awesome motor and it is going to sell like no other sportbike in that range
@mikebannerman72
@mikebannerman72 3 жыл бұрын
Love the anniversary coloured one, very nice Nige.
@lifeoutdoors3953
@lifeoutdoors3953 3 жыл бұрын
Finally I’ve been waiting on your review and your review only!!!!!!
@twt3716
@twt3716 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a keyboard racer who could never ride this bike to its full potential but think it needs more power.
@neilsolomon9149
@neilsolomon9149 3 жыл бұрын
Alastair Fagan. One of the best in the business. ❤️
@JaxsRacingGarage
@JaxsRacingGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Really looked forward to your review. I owned an mt 09 and now a tenere 700. I really like the cp2 engine. I think this would be a perfect ad on. Low budget solid Fun trackbike espacialy on the smaller tracks! Thanks for doing a revieuw again👌
@patkawasaki
@patkawasaki 3 жыл бұрын
A quick look at the dyno charts, and this bike beats the R6 up to 9000rpm. This bike looks cool, probably does 55mpg almost everywhere, and has 120+mph ability. That meets the need of 95% of riders. Yamaha are interested in selling lots of bikes.
@Stratocasterhead51
@Stratocasterhead51 2 жыл бұрын
On a track an r6 is never below 9000 anyway. Engine just isnt exciting enough. Shame that supersports are regressing… People seem to want to sacrifice performance for “comfort”. Sad times.
@danielocwhite6795
@danielocwhite6795 3 жыл бұрын
Another belter of a bike review Niiige! Cheers Al! When’s the BBB coming?!
@paigntonbeach
@paigntonbeach 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great little bike , I will be tempted when the R9 is released if they do a similar job .
@arlinghamindoorspace3052
@arlinghamindoorspace3052 3 жыл бұрын
Little? Why do you think you need 1200cc? Didn’t you listen
@paigntonbeach
@paigntonbeach 3 жыл бұрын
@@arlinghamindoorspace3052 It is small I have ridden the 07 a great LITTLE bike with a punchy LITTLE engine , I ride an MT09 and would get a CP3 R9 .
@harpersneil
@harpersneil 3 жыл бұрын
On board footage NEVER does a ride justice and this still looks the t*ts... epic upload as always; thanks lads.
@jesus2400
@jesus2400 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great review, fun is the name of the game. some folks are hateing this bike, but Yamaha give us an affordable Street bike. If I had the budget sure I would buy a liter bike but this will do just fine and it’s a real head turner in the 60th Anniversary addition. I am taking delivery in January.
@sidb9540
@sidb9540 3 жыл бұрын
This was llong time coming.. I was waiting for this!!
@AccountantsRCool
@AccountantsRCool 3 жыл бұрын
Bikes like this are going to give the supersport class a well needed refresh.
@yamatoSVK
@yamatoSVK 3 жыл бұрын
do you adjust the suspension yourself during the review of bikes, or do you just ride it as they give it to you? just because you mentioned the settings a few times, so i am curious if you fine tune it after a few laps / after a while on the road
@Norton1531
@Norton1531 3 жыл бұрын
I've had many bikes over the years and I've never adjusted the suspension on any of them. Not a single one. I just got used to how it rode and got on with it!
@TheScortUK
@TheScortUK 3 жыл бұрын
Also - went S22 on the back of 44Teeth using them - oh my goodness, best tyre I have ever ridden on! Binned the Super corsa SPs in favour of these
@theant9821
@theant9821 Жыл бұрын
So far this sounds like the strongest contender for replacing my old cbr600rr, which is already way too fast to really enjoy on the road, even a 600 you can't really open it up enough on the road to get full pleasure from it. The most fun bike ive had on the road was a ducati 749, it was a debt trap but so much funn just enough power to go fast, keep up with just about anything on the road and not too much power so you could open it up and feel like it was singing its heart out. I dread to think what a 1000 is like, must be boring, never being able to let it sing because its to fast.
@vendy4625
@vendy4625 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Nige the only review that counts I think this looks a cracking bike love the minitwin segment it's just fun.
@Paul_Wright
@Paul_Wright 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree I work at Wigan Yamaha and we are taking orders for a bike that until recently had no price it’s a great bike at the right price so say all the tunas and other big fish !
@Yama_Apri_521
@Yama_Apri_521 3 жыл бұрын
So, having ridden the R7 and the RS660, which would be the more ‘fun’ as a trackday bike, if you were stepping away from litre bikes for a while?
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't ridden the Aprilia on track but even so, probably the Aprilia: better noise, more character etc
@MrRoxx17
@MrRoxx17 3 жыл бұрын
@@FortyFourTeeth With a nice growler, the CP2 is at least on par with the RS660. Watch the Yoshimura R7 video, it is delicious. Also great video as always, thank you mate!
@onthethrottle9230
@onthethrottle9230 3 жыл бұрын
A Daytona 675 😉
@AntaresSQ01
@AntaresSQ01 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people are saying "You can do x y z with this bike" and "You're never going to reach the limits of this bike" and sure, you can, but when I go out on my 1000 for a day in the twisties I can drag knee, do wheelies, have fun, all whilst being safe because the bike has WAY more to give and it's also way easier to do these things, if you've ever wheelied a 125 you know what I mean, in a 125 you just peg the gas at a specific RPM whilst yanking it up and drop the clutch and it either comes up or it doesn't. There is no finesse to it, you're using 100% of what the bike has to give. It's the same with this, sure you can drag knee on the R7 and do silly stuff but you're using 70-80% of what the bike has to give, not the limit, yes, but the same on a 1000cc is only 30-40% of that bike's limit. You have so much room for error and so much adaptability which these ""little"" bikes just don't give. I don't disagree you can do illegal speeds on either of them but the difference is very apparent even when you aren't. I've ridden a mate's Street Triple 765 RS and it feels just as fast as my S1000XR when you get on it, but then you look down and doing 20mph less. Which is not a big difference, but the difference is when I'm doing a 100 on the 765 it's making my body feel like a parachute trying to tear me out of my seat, I have to grip with all I have and at those speeds, I have much less control of the bike even though it's perfectly capable of going up to 150mph in a full tuck. At 100mph on my XR I'm sitting with cruise control on, hands off the bar, sipping tea with my visor open. It's actually ridiculous to compare the 2. Either way, point a lot of people are making is that you don't "need" a lot of power, hell you can do illegal speeds on a 125, after all UK motorway speed limit is 70, my R125 used to do 85, but it makes your everyday life so much nicer, easier and more relaxed.
@pwbderksen
@pwbderksen 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! I missed you guys! What are the Dutch plates doing on these bikes?
@racer_x3572
@racer_x3572 3 жыл бұрын
That GYTR version quiet literally had me salivating. How anybody can talk down on twins is beyond me.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 жыл бұрын
If it was a 1000cc twin I guess it might be OK I didn't think it sounded very good. ☹
@renegadebikersol2936
@renegadebikersol2936 3 жыл бұрын
So in a different light this is essentially a fully faired Fazer. Yamaha had a good formula and they made it better and better over time. I do like the idea of the R7. Comfortable package, reliable and strong engine and a racing feel without the insane powerband. The Fazer was THE mid weight naked for in the city from Yamaha so to see it come so far is a great thing. We all would of loved the idea of an R7 a redo of the infamous 750 racer but in today's world where regulations etc are effecting the industry it's gonna be harder to make those hooligan bikes we love so much. What Yamaha delivered us was a package perfectly suitable for most riders today. I do love it. Personally I still prefer the proper old sports bikes and when I get a big bike it's gotta be a 600rr or F4i. But the R7 seems ideal for an everyday bike. Good bike. And as always budget Statham delivers a great review 👌🏽🏍️💨
@Zeuspwns
@Zeuspwns 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I didn’t like about the MT07 was the suspension so even if it is only a little bit better that’s good enough for me, still will love my F800ST more 😅
@101BadBreath
@101BadBreath 11 ай бұрын
Hated MT07 suspension, always felt like it was gonna wash out on me when I pushed it hard, no such issues on the R7.
@tokyosmash
@tokyosmash 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pumped for this thing. Will make a killer start point for a track bike
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 жыл бұрын
Just get a used cbr600r much better track bike. Pick one up for £1k rather than £8.5k
@tokyosmash
@tokyosmash 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrishart8548 plenty of us out there who prefer twins
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 жыл бұрын
@@tokyosmash I have a twin 800cc rotax with a 360° crankshaft and a 3rd conrod slide weight for balance. I still think triples fours v-twins are better v-4 even. But it's all about cost. Soon every bike will be a single or parallel twin.
@AndyQuinn748
@AndyQuinn748 3 жыл бұрын
Proper bike for today. Commuter friendly and will silence a few egos at a track day too. Anyone that thinks 72hp isn't enough hasn't spent a day on a 60hp 400 and got home shaking like a hostage! Plus, these middle weights won't have you hunting the best credit card APR's to pay fines or have you telling fibs to the boss about why you can't drive the company car for the next 3\6\12 months, let alone worrying about getting humped dry by your cell mate. Who the fcuk is Nige?
@Stratocasterhead51
@Stratocasterhead51 2 жыл бұрын
Probably good fun on a twisty road or on a very small track. But as soon as you hit a big gp track this bike will become boring. We need to stop validating mediocre performance for premium prices if we want accessible motorcycling to survive. The old expression "its all you need for the road" is another way of saying: satisfy yourself with less power. If this was the case, why are we not all riding around on R3s and duke 390s? 99.999% of people wont be able to get even a 400cc supersport around a track as fast as marquez. Does that mean no one should be allowed to upgrade to a more powerful bike? No it doesnt. There is just no getting away from the fact that you are paying almost 10 000€ for a bike with 70hp. You used to be able to get a zx6r which has Twice the power, better brakes, better chassis and better suspension for just a grand or two more. No matter which way you cut it the R7 is overpriced.
@Stratocasterhead51
@Stratocasterhead51 2 жыл бұрын
@@Probeionic key word you used was “relatively”. Of course it is cheap compared to a 1000cc superbike. But its only a grand less than a street triple R for half the performance. And i dont doubt that it is a good bit of fun on a tight twisty track. But on a bigger track you have far better options for not much more cash.
@nickg1267
@nickg1267 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to this one for a while!
@nigelgibbon2279
@nigelgibbon2279 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making all these videos especially for me. Nigel (Nige) Gibbon
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 жыл бұрын
No worries Nice
@nigel274
@nigel274 3 жыл бұрын
There aren't that many of us left 🤣
@tylercox4159
@tylercox4159 2 жыл бұрын
To me it honestly feels like they’ve created the perfect bike for folks who want a sport bike for the street but don’t need 120+ hp that you could never use away from the track anyway.
@IwantaturboZED
@IwantaturboZED 3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha R9 based around the MT09 engine would be a real sweet spot for
@louieandrewdulay959
@louieandrewdulay959 3 жыл бұрын
The exhaust is the first thing that gets replaced anyway so it's fine if they went budget on that
@johnhudson5414
@johnhudson5414 3 жыл бұрын
I saw R7 and my inner 18 year old got very excited.
@Simey2wheels
@Simey2wheels 3 жыл бұрын
R7 SP for the win!
@_marcus_does_
@_marcus_does_ 3 жыл бұрын
Missed you Al! Looks a right laugh miiiiiinnnnndddd
@d675ose7
@d675ose7 3 жыл бұрын
Just rode home on a RSV660 after dropping my V4 1100 Tuono Factory off for a service - 660 does not have a 675 top end rush, it’s quite spartan and paint is... - but it does have a blipper, a little bit of a top end rush, you sit right in the bike, it turns really well and you can have some fun at semi legal road speeds/front pops up easily. Can really see the point in these bikes - but would I love it like my old 675r or a 250 2-stroke - no.
@MrDeepseadweller
@MrDeepseadweller 3 жыл бұрын
Just like with the MT-07, a new exhaust on this bike will completely change its character. We live a in a golden age, my friends, when you can purchase such a fun and capable bike for so little money.
@willspeakman2461
@willspeakman2461 3 жыл бұрын
It is sad that the superbike market is down 77% but I'd say its more a affordability issue. 20 years ago you could be a litre bike for £8000 and now your looking around £16000. Wages have barely changed in that time. On the other hand adventure bikes are some of the best selling models yet cost a similar price to superbikes.
@gregorysteffensen3279
@gregorysteffensen3279 3 жыл бұрын
We've also seen the 600/750cc classes essentially stagnate since the '00s, except for the addition of ABS, and the reliability on Japanese 4-cyls is particularly high so if you don't crash them they last a long time. It's, ironically, similar to the problems Harley's had IMHO
@mikefry6765
@mikefry6765 3 жыл бұрын
Its because we are old twats that dont bend like we used to and nobody buys sport bikes
@gregorysteffensen3279
@gregorysteffensen3279 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikefry6765 I'm a young twat at age 27 but all the other young twats before me made insurance on a sport bike too damn expensive, so I own a Versys 650 instead
@mikefry6765
@mikefry6765 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregorysteffensen3279 go to a bike meet in the UK and the youngest old twat is about 50
@tomcooney183
@tomcooney183 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely looking forward to a head to head, oh and the bike comparison too!
@dankorolyk5917
@dankorolyk5917 3 жыл бұрын
Another entertaining review,thanks!
@richardsmiths518
@richardsmiths518 3 жыл бұрын
The Anniversary and GYTR are pretty f**kin cool 😎
@timjrvine
@timjrvine 3 жыл бұрын
If I was getting into racing this would be my first choice.
@twowheelpilot
@twowheelpilot 3 жыл бұрын
Epic, nice one Yamaha. I've a Yamaha with a CP4 motor and fancy electronic Ohlins suspension and I still think the R7 is ace. I'd love to have one as a track hack. As much as I love my monster rocket riding a slower bike fast is very very rewarding. More so than riding a fast bike fast.
@AJpro88
@AJpro88 3 жыл бұрын
I own an MT-07 and let me tell you just tucking makes a huge difference so i can only imagine what a full fairing kit does..
@marauder7412
@marauder7412 3 жыл бұрын
Is this new R7 an evolution of the TRX 850?? Remember those?
@trashandslash
@trashandslash 3 жыл бұрын
Love it , would love to try one out for the day. Only things that bug me with Yamaha is the names now. Back in the day mt03 used to be a 660 and now it's lost a good few cc , and now r7 they could of changed it a little .
@ritchiethorup-sz4dt
@ritchiethorup-sz4dt 6 ай бұрын
Al nice reviewing I see it has enough power to lift the front wheel and flows through the twisties nicely. A good rider will humiliate many big bike guys including very respectable race track manners
@lucasmuniz5728
@lucasmuniz5728 6 ай бұрын
This has to be a great bike for someone wanting to do track days on a bike with true super sport geo, but with manageable power to learn on so they don't die.
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 3 жыл бұрын
My thought is if it’s around 70hp… theres a lot of naked options (KTM 790 & 890) come to mind that would probably be just as sporty yet better all round bikes. I mean a sports riding positions without the sports power seems a bit of a mismatch? I know they say don’t moan about less power, but I think this bit is too little.
@dukiemoto8676
@dukiemoto8676 3 жыл бұрын
Love a good Fagan review👍🏼
@n.handley9087
@n.handley9087 3 жыл бұрын
Be good to hear how this compares with Aprilia. The Aprilia seems to have it in the looks (non piss colour) and sound department.
@morley3810
@morley3810 3 жыл бұрын
The red/white bike looks glorious.
@leebaker6807
@leebaker6807 3 жыл бұрын
I love thrashing my little 600 fazer about, like you said pushing a bike to the max is more fun than 180 down a straight!
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 3 жыл бұрын
The GYTR spec in the 60th Anniversary paint scheme would be lovely.
@TrackSol
@TrackSol 3 жыл бұрын
I think few would have complained had Yamaha named it MT07R or something similar. It’s the same bollocks with Ford using the Mustang name for an electric SUV.
@alexandertimmins4882
@alexandertimmins4882 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's a great bike but I just like the character and the sound of an inline 4 however I respect that this is the right move for the industry
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 3 жыл бұрын
I find in all cars and motorcycles. I actually end up speeding with the smaller engines I get carried away. With a big engine I have nothing to prove and just chill. My friend only got done for speeding on a 125cc. His other bikes are a 1250 bandit cbx1000. Honda sp2. If I get done for speeding it will probably be on the aprilia sx50 not the 800gs. And the R7 still does 0-60 in under 4 seconds and over 100mph in less the 1/4 mile. Very easy to get fined for speeding.
@NinjaKid1985
@NinjaKid1985 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo, Yamaha R7 vs Aprilia RS660 vs Honda CBR650R... What do you choose and why? If you aren't interested in none than just leave it. Because of course there are other/better choices. It's just about these three. The question goes to you all! Very interested for your answers.
@wrxguyusa
@wrxguyusa 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Suzuki do this 20 years ago? Right...because they did and everyone just converted the SV650S back to naked spec when they experienced how uncomfortable clip-ons are. Curious to see how this go round fares. I would like to see the suspension, brake, and frame upgrades make their way to an MT07 SP.
@ridingweeb4801
@ridingweeb4801 3 жыл бұрын
if they put the mt09 engine in this it would be so much better
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