Yamaha R7 vs MT-07: Which Should You Buy?

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@motobob
@motobob 2 жыл бұрын
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@deputydd4364
@deputydd4364 2 жыл бұрын
I had superbikes for years then finally admitted to myself on the road they are pointless, so I got an MT07 so can really use it and let's be honest, the 0-70mph performance is almost the same on the road as a superbike so you don't really lose much, your riding skill easily offsets any spec advantage! I tried an R7 this year but I don't do track days, 99% of the time I'm below 80mph so the riding position on the MT is just a better all rounder. Yes, would be great to have the better front suspension on the MT and I have fitted sticker tyres on mine. Every year I test ride other bikes, nearly go for it, then have a word with myself and keep the MT!!
@SteveMuir
@SteveMuir 2 жыл бұрын
How about a MT 07 SP version with the brakes, forks and shocks off the R7? Now that would solve some of the decision making.
@mrazza6182
@mrazza6182 2 жыл бұрын
see i got the MT because it was more available compared to the R7, but the way I ride, it’s evident that I would prefer a super sport, but damn the the MT-07 keeps up on the motorway, city riding is just more comfortable
@johnnywibowo9
@johnnywibowo9 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT CHOICE 😁😁😁
@jamessmurf2929
@jamessmurf2929 2 жыл бұрын
by the sound of it you dun even a 700cc. you could have been settled with a 500 or even a 400
@boris2997
@boris2997 Жыл бұрын
I upgraded the suspension on my MT07 front and rear for around $600 ,YSS shocks and cartridge kit . The bike rides amazing
@JamesBond-ph6hr
@JamesBond-ph6hr 2 жыл бұрын
I took my mt07 for its first 1000km service. The salesman offered me to take the r7 for a spin. I came back, asked them to stop the service and just do an appraisal as I want to trade in the mt07 for the r7. The r7 is significantly more capable for my type of riding (hit the twisty roads on a Sunday). I am very, very happy with the r7. Not to mention it looks deadly in black. If you can handle the supersport riding position, get the r7.
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
If I had 13k€ I would
@drozdforce8853
@drozdforce8853 6 ай бұрын
yeah i cant handle it iam too tall :D
@rabbychan
@rabbychan 2 жыл бұрын
I took my first motorcycle lesson today, never even touched one in the past. For someone as inexperienced as me the MT07 felt otherwordly, I took it on the road already, what an amazing feeling!
@ozzyg82
@ozzyg82 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the biking world! an MT07 would make a good 1st big bike too.
@rabbychan
@rabbychan 2 жыл бұрын
@@ozzyg82 Thx! Yeah, this model was already in my top 3 possible choices so it's pretty damn convenient that I get to learn on it!
@ASMCourtney
@ASMCourtney 2 жыл бұрын
I'm shopping the Husqvarna svartpilen rn for my first bike. The Mt07 might take my heart though haha
@cykablyat867
@cykablyat867 2 жыл бұрын
2023 Hornet 750 just wrecked the game, mt7 is done! And I am a MT lover
@nevzatkarakaya2874
@nevzatkarakaya2874 11 ай бұрын
Bende mt 7 ile hornet arasinda kaldım​@@cykablyat867
@Harudes
@Harudes Жыл бұрын
Tried them both - went with the MT. Gave me a wide grin while riding. Still does every time 😊
@stevef152
@stevef152 Жыл бұрын
Have a MT-10 and the wife has a R1. We love our liter bikes. We bought a MT-07 a few weeks back and I have to say it is a blast to ride. You can just throw it around, it’s very nimble. A good two up bike as well. The he kids like to go out with us so the reason for getting the 07. Looked at getting another 10, but so glad we went with the 07. Can’t wait to get through the break in period.
@ewganhoff
@ewganhoff Жыл бұрын
I saw a pair of R7s in the wild and they both had aftermarket exhausts. Damn, these things really sound like a big bore Ducati with the 270 crank and loud exhaust. For a second my brain was confused because at a glance it looks exactly like an R1, so the big bassy twin sound was like a glitch in the matrix.
@scottyfury8105
@scottyfury8105 2 жыл бұрын
I am a long term MT-07 owner and I absolutely love it
@theunheardprophet4315
@theunheardprophet4315 2 жыл бұрын
The way you described what you would do with the MT just tells me that you actually want a Ténéré.
@GinnoNGomez
@GinnoNGomez Жыл бұрын
I went to yamaha today, and saw both bikes. The MT caught my eye quick. This video was great to see and Letting know which to pick 💪🏼
@wolfpack1696
@wolfpack1696 Жыл бұрын
i have a mt07 ,first bike,,,wicked controll abs is spot on ! Total controll!
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 2 жыл бұрын
I hated the new MT07 look but it has grown on me. If they made an SP version (I'm a sucker for nice suspension) I would buy one. At the moment I have a 1290 superduke but the power is just to much for the streets and its getting me in trouble someday.
@Mike_P646
@Mike_P646 2 жыл бұрын
Mt09 sp then, love mine 👍
@jacobpollard3189
@jacobpollard3189 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I’d go for the mt 07 since I absolutely love the street bike style of all the MT models, beautiful bikes
@drozdforce8853
@drozdforce8853 6 ай бұрын
yeah i mean the slow turns in traffic with r7 i bet sucks ass
@prometheus9038
@prometheus9038 Жыл бұрын
I got an MT 07 as my first bike and that thing is nuts but also very useful, i needed a bike get to work, but also something fun and an mt 07 2019 model with an akaprovic exaust got the best of both worlds, im still a newbie so even if i get a sport bike to have fun i cant really use the bike to the limit, im not even close to do that on the mt 07 so
@aeronx
@aeronx 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an MT-07 for my first bike, don't think I could've gotten anything better if I tried. I did consider the R7, but my back would snap clean in half after hitting a bump (the roads in my area are garbage)
@Rolly28
@Rolly28 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of getting the mt07 for my first bike also, I’m 19 tho so do you think insurance will be okay? I have got told that I will need a limiter
@aeronx
@aeronx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rolly28 it's a brilliant bike, really easy to ride. Insurance was just under £1100 for me (25, 6 years no claims on my car license at the time). They can be made A2 compliant if that's the license you have
@Rolly28
@Rolly28 2 жыл бұрын
@@aeronx yea that’s the one I’m going for after I do my theory test now, thanks bro can’t wait 👍
@aeronx
@aeronx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rolly28 Nice one mate, good luck! 👍You'll enjoy it
@perrymiller6109
@perrymiller6109 2 жыл бұрын
I learnt to ride on an MT-07 and test rode an R7 a few weeks back. What an engine! The MT-07 was excellent to learn on really easy to get on with and fun but for me the R7 was better I prefer sportier riding positions and the flickability of the R7 had me leaning over more in my short time with it than I’ve ever managed on my ancient Suzuki which I’ve owned for months 😂 would love an R7 but being sensible I cant afford either of these new I just wish they’d released the R7 a while back so there would be some affordable used ones about like there are MT-07’s. Only minus points for me is the tiny fuel tank on both!
@benjo3459
@benjo3459 2 жыл бұрын
Do what I'm gonna have to do and save more
@ans512
@ans512 2 жыл бұрын
so so well put together...........great comparative vlog.
@linopontes
@linopontes 2 жыл бұрын
MT-07 SP would be nice.
@patrickmitchell9171
@patrickmitchell9171 2 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that Yamaha didn't sort out the MT-07 suspension, brakes, and dash when they last updated it. I can't imagine buying a 2023 MT-07 when the Hornet, GSX-8S, and Trident exist. It now sits with the Z650 at the bottom of the entry-middleweight class.
@Mike_P646
@Mike_P646 2 жыл бұрын
All about keeping the price down
@patrickmitchell9171
@patrickmitchell9171 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mike_P646 The 2023 Hornet is cheaper than the 2023 MT-07.
@richardwarsinske7064
@richardwarsinske7064 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see Yamaha put all the R7 upgrades (better fork, brakes, slipper clutch) on the MT07. Eliminating the cost of the additional bodywork would result in a better overall value bike than the current MT07 (IMO) and may be something Yamaha ends up regretting not doing in response to the MT07's new higher performing competition (Hornet, GSX 8S, Duke 790).
@downhillupside
@downhillupside 2 жыл бұрын
They've obviously been trying to milk a cash-cow while putting minimal work into the bike's development. They'll now be forced to do something to make it more appealing with the new midweight naked options showing up.
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
That's probably what the next mt07 will get. Pretty sure the slipper clutch has been in the mt for a while now. If Honda Slaps out a cbr750r, the R7 will also have problems. Because the Hornet's got everything the Yamaha's got without the 180 rear wheel.
@someguy9520
@someguy9520 2 жыл бұрын
Ppl have been asking for a Mt07 SP for a while. Yamaha really letting us hang there
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
@@someguy9520 Honda got you covered, 50more cc, 20 more hp, nice fat showa ups forks.
@downhillupside
@downhillupside 2 жыл бұрын
@Daniel won't buy it, unfortunately. Our insurance rates here work on displacement, and the new Honda puts it in a much higher category and makes it 50% more expensive to insure per month. Mt07 is the sweet spot for me.
@trevorphillips3055
@trevorphillips3055 2 жыл бұрын
The MT range has never done for me in the looks department. R7 looks good, I saw one brave man out on one on Saturday it sounds great too.
@falcy2889
@falcy2889 2 жыл бұрын
He’s not brave reckless it’s not the same lol
@nomsi4263
@nomsi4263 6 ай бұрын
It's a hard choice. I want the R7 because it looks great. It sounds great, but I know I will barely go on tracks and living in london. But do you go for comfort or how it makes you feel.
@sovan_404
@sovan_404 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should increase their displacement to 699cc and performance...for being in line with gsx8s and hornet...
@Barneyx-sk3mx
@Barneyx-sk3mx Жыл бұрын
I went and ordered the R7 in blue
@Connor_Stoney
@Connor_Stoney 2 жыл бұрын
I am looking for my first bike, and honestly it's going to be between these two, and am strongly considering getting the r7, since the vast majority of my riding will be in the mountains where I live, no city riding or anything.
@benjo3459
@benjo3459 2 жыл бұрын
Damn your first bike ? This might be my second soon as I have my full license. This shits powerful for a first bike
@waza660
@waza660 2 жыл бұрын
I love my mt07 . I’d like to ride an R7 but realistically I can’t do that seating position long term
@Antonio_zx6r
@Antonio_zx6r 2 жыл бұрын
MT-07. Why would I want a supersport riding position without supersport power? Get a ZX-6R for around the same price. Much better bike.
@Mike_P646
@Mike_P646 2 жыл бұрын
You can't buy a new 600 cc supersport bike in Europe anymore 😭
@spartanx169x
@spartanx169x 2 жыл бұрын
600s are getting phased out. They just don't sell, which proves the ones that rave about them either don't buy them or buy them used.
@jonathanvicodasilva2025
@jonathanvicodasilva2025 2 жыл бұрын
The R7 sounds like the perfect second bike
@m3lvn415
@m3lvn415 2 жыл бұрын
I think the ergonomics and comfort go hand-in-hand to the MT-07. For R7 is more along the lines of being more sporty.
@FULLPELTAdventures
@FULLPELTAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Really enjoyed your thoughts on these two Yamaha's that a very popular.
@ibrahimassani4433
@ibrahimassani4433 Жыл бұрын
Thanks...buying my MT 7 tomorrow
@Charlie-fc1mh
@Charlie-fc1mh 2 жыл бұрын
I had the chance to sit on a 2022 honda fireblade 3 weeks ago and I felt like I was sitting or rather lying down on a mini bike. With my height and weight I have to have something with a more comfortable riding position
@flatcapcaferacer
@flatcapcaferacer 2 жыл бұрын
When the choice is between a markedly better looking all be more uncomfortable bike with better equipment and a less attractive yet more comfortable bike with okay equipment with all things being equal most riders will choose the first bike. In this case there is a significant difference in price. Here is where we seem to rationalize with the bang for buck and pick the first bike anyway. I see it all the time with strangers, friends and I do it too. So why fight it?
@clubstyleridahd4695
@clubstyleridahd4695 2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha should make a new cam for the R7 so it has a little more top end power with a little bit higher rpm limit.
@WynterK
@WynterK 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. They should have cammed it for a more sporty top end.
@astrostrotch
@astrostrotch 2 жыл бұрын
Then you'd lose that dirty grunt we all love. I think the new Hornet will give you what you're looking for.
@clubstyleridahd4695
@clubstyleridahd4695 2 жыл бұрын
@@astrostrotch Ya probably so. The hornet does sound like it'll be good. Im going to have to test one out
@Fred-mv8fx
@Fred-mv8fx 2 жыл бұрын
The fz07 / mt07 was really special when it was first introduced, but now for $400 more I'd go for the Trident and get better suspension, a slipper clutch, and ride-by-wire / riding modes.
@lamarmichael619
@lamarmichael619 Жыл бұрын
I go with the R7 I really love this one thanks
@TSINIproductions
@TSINIproductions 2 жыл бұрын
XSR700 all the way. Looks much better than the MT, if you like sports bikes then the R7.
@fikri2822
@fikri2822 2 жыл бұрын
Just my opinion. Add USD fork, Brembo radial brake, hydraulic clutch lever and swap seat to closely match MT09 seat styling than MT07 is great banger bike.
@rogervallve7375
@rogervallve7375 2 жыл бұрын
both not for me, I went for the xsr700 instead.
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 Жыл бұрын
For Me: I might Considering upgrading from a 2016 FZ-07 to an MT-09 Tracer
@leanit5756
@leanit5756 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned both. The R7 is twice the bike the MT07 is.
@esgee2327
@esgee2327 2 жыл бұрын
What's the reason why MT-07 uses conventional forks rather than inverted forks?
@Biker_Jonathan
@Biker_Jonathan 2 жыл бұрын
R7 is a beautiful bike. I was literally just checking them out before this video. Pity they don’t have something in between the R7 and R1.
@rampage3337
@rampage3337 2 жыл бұрын
well that's why the R7 sucks because it's just a MT-07R with a R7 badge. i ain't saying it needs allot of power but it should atleast have 90+ hp if it wants to claim it's a R7 which it ain't.
@Biker_Jonathan
@Biker_Jonathan 2 жыл бұрын
@@rampage3337 I agree, though could be tuned to 120+ps, then it would be decent.
@asga4rd
@asga4rd 2 жыл бұрын
Already for the R9 😁. Got a feeling is gonna be awesome for street
@Biker_Jonathan
@Biker_Jonathan 2 жыл бұрын
@@asga4rd yup, did some checking and the upcoming R9 will be a great addition.
@photographerjonathan
@photographerjonathan 2 жыл бұрын
The MT07 not having upside down forks like every other bike its going up against really lets it down and makes it seem old. at my age the ergonomics of the R7 are not for me.
@MarmiteTheDog
@MarmiteTheDog 2 жыл бұрын
Out of the two, I'd have to choose a Gen 5 VFR800 🤘
@steve-wu7jp
@steve-wu7jp 2 жыл бұрын
Ok granpa
@MarmiteTheDog
@MarmiteTheDog 2 жыл бұрын
@@steve-wu7jp 👴
@apervav
@apervav Жыл бұрын
This is the 2022 mt07 correct?
@gomezthechimp1116
@gomezthechimp1116 2 жыл бұрын
The answer to that question is Honda 750 Hornet 😁
@krooked89
@krooked89 2 жыл бұрын
I have a MT09 and love it. So does my back lol
@mnap89
@mnap89 2 жыл бұрын
Tracer 700?
@MotoCoreSteve
@MotoCoreSteve 2 ай бұрын
I have both and i feel the mt07 takes off faster and sounds better.
@mrhands2757
@mrhands2757 2 жыл бұрын
You convinced me, but your gonna have to explain to my woman why I bought a R7!! 🤙🤙🤙🤭🤣🤣🤣
@jacksama502
@jacksama502 2 жыл бұрын
Why doesnt mt have usd? When lower cc mt have them?
@jefflambert8603
@jefflambert8603 2 жыл бұрын
Price point I would Have thought But then again a Honda CB500 Has USD..🤔
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
Not the 300buck exhaust cover on the R7 lmaoo
@DrKampfpudding
@DrKampfpudding 2 жыл бұрын
too bad the r7 isnt painted fully in that beautiful blue,..
@RaghunandanReddyC
@RaghunandanReddyC 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to those 4 cylinder 600 cc R6?
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 2 жыл бұрын
did not pass euro5 emissions
@archiegol9903
@archiegol9903 2 жыл бұрын
Discontinued unfortunately for the street. They got a black track only version now.
@vihaanpandit5364
@vihaanpandit5364 2 жыл бұрын
Please make video also for indian because we love to watch your video
@angahsham-ou1uu
@angahsham-ou1uu 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Yamaha... We need R9
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the R7, but dealers here are asking for 13K€ for these things... It's cool but I'd rather import a zx4r for that money.
@greencollar4103
@greencollar4103 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even watch the vid, but it's rhe r7 all day for the front suspension alone.
@Brabobiker.
@Brabobiker. 2 жыл бұрын
If you want the best of both.. the tracer 7 is your bike bob.
@tonyspicer6745
@tonyspicer6745 Жыл бұрын
I like the MT07 for ripping around the back country roads where I live…
@chicagoui9299
@chicagoui9299 2 жыл бұрын
Well Bob, wilst everyone is debating which one, I am saying both. For the price of an R1 you could have both of these bikes. :-)
@mattmassey5013
@mattmassey5013 2 жыл бұрын
MT07 for me. Wheelie monster.
@ricardopessoa8362
@ricardopessoa8362 2 жыл бұрын
I would reconsider the MT-07 if the headlight wasn't so hideous. Even the new GSX-8 looks a lot better.
@alesterpadua7884
@alesterpadua7884 2 жыл бұрын
Windscreen would make it look better
@ricardopessoa8362
@ricardopessoa8362 2 жыл бұрын
To me, that's just not enough. They had an attractive product and ruined it completely. And there are other MT Yamahas just as bad.
@alesterpadua7884
@alesterpadua7884 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricardopessoa8362 not really a problem to everyone but yeah, some people like it and some people don't
@TheSupart91
@TheSupart91 2 жыл бұрын
or save an extra 1k n get a mt03 then use the extra money for upgrades
@markrigg7038
@markrigg7038 2 жыл бұрын
Neither, bought an Enfield interceptor 👍
@motohound90
@motohound90 2 жыл бұрын
Interceptor is a great bike but MT is way more fun. Guess it all comes down to what you appreciate in a bike.
@kotomakosako
@kotomakosako 2 жыл бұрын
In my country, R7 is 2500 Euro more expencive than the MT-07. That's not a small amount of money and therefore, for me MT-07 wins this. Same engine, much more comfy, cheaper.
@tubejorrit
@tubejorrit 2 жыл бұрын
R7, better brakes, suspension, display and more bodywork. That's where the 2500,- went.
@yonniboy1
@yonniboy1 2 жыл бұрын
The MT-07 is a real fun bike and I like its looks but if you try to push it on B roads it ties itself in knots, IMO the ideal budget middleweight would be the MT-07 engine in a Trident rolling chassis.
@Yoss223
@Yoss223 2 жыл бұрын
But have you ridden Trident?
@dsofe4879
@dsofe4879 2 жыл бұрын
Or you could join me on year 8 of waiting for the R9
@steve-wu7jp
@steve-wu7jp 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t put any passion into reviews these days ,it’s just about cranking it out for sponsors and views
@zacharyburdette4261
@zacharyburdette4261 2 жыл бұрын
This is basically asking someone if they like sportbikes or naked bikes.
@SouLerKunG
@SouLerKunG 2 жыл бұрын
Easy for me, I don't like sport bike and MT-07 and naked bikes is my choice.
@BOBimusRex
@BOBimusRex 22 күн бұрын
My dumb ass is gonna get an R7 and swap out the clip-ons and rear sets for MT bars and MT rear sets and make me a fully faired MT.
@MrAndrew1953
@MrAndrew1953 2 жыл бұрын
A kitted out version of the pleb model would probably suit me best. Top box, screen for a bit of wind protection and a horny sounding pipe. Not too much power,too easy to pick up tickets for bad behaviour. Urban growler.
@cykablyat867
@cykablyat867 2 жыл бұрын
You should buy the new Hornet 750. The mt7 reign is over
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 2 жыл бұрын
The real answer is the T7, at least for tall people like myself.
@anonymous1756
@anonymous1756 2 жыл бұрын
Mt07 always
@FPSLibrarian
@FPSLibrarian 2 жыл бұрын
XSR700 every day of the week over these two
@bikashdeepharijan9814
@bikashdeepharijan9814 2 жыл бұрын
I love r7😍😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍😍🥰😍😘😘😘
@stevenelliott5403
@stevenelliott5403 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take the MT on the road
@adventurewithalex3707
@adventurewithalex3707 2 жыл бұрын
I know which one I want… The T7
@beer3029
@beer3029 Жыл бұрын
Wait until the R9 comes out.
@НиколайЮдин-н9т
@НиколайЮдин-н9т 2 жыл бұрын
Сделай Субтитры ! ⬅🕇♞
@user-hf8ie8mf3n
@user-hf8ie8mf3n 2 жыл бұрын
Neither? 🤔
@powamoto
@powamoto 2 жыл бұрын
Zx7R end game
@michaelhayward7572
@michaelhayward7572 2 жыл бұрын
XSR700....
@cybilisation
@cybilisation 2 жыл бұрын
Neither of ‘em 🙂 buy a Hornet. Cheaper, better, same reliability.
@bobdowns6973
@bobdowns6973 Жыл бұрын
In a weird way the tenere should be here 🤔
@marton_horvath
@marton_horvath 2 жыл бұрын
As i understand from a used car expert's review of them, carvertical is rather crappy though.
@faris2776
@faris2776 Жыл бұрын
The R7 hurts my back
@yasseralsaidi1168
@yasseralsaidi1168 2 ай бұрын
Nice bike but nowhere to go as if it was cOvid
@jimzenglish1
@jimzenglish1 2 жыл бұрын
Neither. Get the XSR700.
@CaptainChristianZ1818
@CaptainChristianZ1818 2 жыл бұрын
Neither. Sorry not a huge fan of the MT-07 or R7.
@k1mura92
@k1mura92 Жыл бұрын
Large burrito 😂😂😂
@6t5rxzgfsdchv
@6t5rxzgfsdchv 2 жыл бұрын
Dont buy them i had a MT07 its fucking boring No Power, Bad suspension, crappy seatingposition… only thing it can do is wheelie. Just get a Z900 or a Literbike :)
@MrBinkz
@MrBinkz 2 жыл бұрын
The R7 is bloody uncomfortable…
@derek2727
@derek2727 2 жыл бұрын
tracer 7😄
@netxzero3993
@netxzero3993 2 жыл бұрын
None of the above. Both overpriced
@dfe8286
@dfe8286 2 жыл бұрын
The new R7 is a poser bike. There I said it.
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