7 Reasons Why The Grom IS NOT a Beginner Bike!

[@yammienoob]

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[@TURTLEscooterking]

Dude wtf

[@TURTLEscooterking]

You pump butts?

[@kannermw]

@Bilal Khalid Not a good bike. Quite the joke as they showed for valid reasons.

[@nicholaskemper642]

I really want the grom but dont have the money plzzzzzz

[@CaptainJacksIsland]

It's common knowledge you start on a Busa and work your way up to the Grom.

[@timjohnson1199]

Don't forget to NOT ask your parents.

[@notjesus5045]

So I should get a Turbo Busa and not the used Grom some sketchy guy is selling to me ?

[@allen9818]

Stfu

[@patthonsirilim5739]

no joke thou currently on the v4 panigale and i want the grom so bad.

[@oscarbear7498]

@@patthonsirilim5739 I know all the points are valid, even then I still want a grom

[@ravenyzf8293]

So, the grom is smaller and isn't throttle sensitive, which makes it a bad beginner bike. The busa is huge and snappy, which makes it the perfect beginner bike! Buy a busa!

[@omega_acxd]

Im 4'6 😭

[@babysquid121]

TURBO BUSA!!!!!

[@Fearless154]

Only if it's turbo Busa. Now jokes aside Hayabusa is not snappy at all it has very friendly throttle map and power delivery. It's an overpowered touring bike and very easy to ride without any drama the only issue is the weight of the bike. gsxr1000 is much more snappy and radical compared to the Hayabusa.

[@babysquid121]

@@Fearless154 agreed. But in my country, it cost wayyyyy too much for anyone to own here😂 i went and checked it out the other day and as it turns out, higher cc engines bikes insurance and licencing alone can buy you a perfectly capable 250cc bike. And it's not even fun to ride a superbike in our twisted and hilly mountain roads

[@ravenyzf8293]

@@omega_acxd Buy a grom! No joke it's really cool

[@bomberbaja]

I don't trust Spite. He likes Harleys and has a ponytail. Clearly he knows nothing about making good decisions.

[@ShedPowersports]

😂

[@MrGregory777]

It almost feels like a GROM killed Yammie's family

[@hossmoss3378]

Good he deserves it pos

[@junbug73]

I'm a petite 5 foot 3 woman and the Grom is actually a perfect beginner bike for me because it fits my proportions. I rode a Grom for my M2 course here in Toronto, Canada and I found it really easy to manoeuvre. I'm a pretty avid cyclist (commuted to work on my bike this past winter) and I'm so used to cycling that the speed of a motorcycle still kind of startles me lol. I love it but I'm not used to it yet so the Grom is very manageable for me to learn on. Thanks for the video tho great to hear different points of view!

[@lostintheclouds8719]

I’m bout to learn on one myself at my mss course. It’s the one I clicked the most with out of everything I’ve sat on for the past couple months. It’s the only one that I feel I can totally manage without it feeling like it’s too big or too much bike for me. If it sucks so much as a beginner bike then why does the motorcycle safety course use it? Lol. Second of all if you’re a beginner rider, why are you jumping on the highway? I know I’m not gonna be going on the highway with a motorcycle let alone my car because there’s so many jerk drivers out there. Maybe for these tall guys that are used to riding busas and bigger bikes, obviously you’re too tall for the grom, so why would you make a video about the grom being so horrible? I mean it’s horrible for you cuz you’re tall, experienced, and you like the things you like. but you have to consider also people who are shorter than you, maybe women riders, and there’s other things to consider. you shouldn’t just throw this bike under the bus because you’re tall and you don’t like it. Sorry but I think your review is biased. I am in agreement with Junbug

[@canadiantriple2441]

My Aprilia Tuono has been sitting in my garage since I purchased a grom to teach my daughter to ride.A grom is a great starter bike for new riders & a blast for experienced riders. Just my 2 cents.

[@59missedcalls]

So badly want a grom. Parents don’t want me getting a motorcycle because they’re too dangerous. I didn’t win them over with the fact the grom has 9-10 horsepower, tops out at 56 and gets 130 something miles to a gallon. Yet I drive a car that sounds like it’s about to blow up, that I am basically guessing what gear I’m entering when shifting cause the stick is sloppy.... hmm

[@cheddarshredder6572]

Shit be thankful you got somthin. Could be worse

[@dcope117]

I don't think it's common for parents to Want their children to get motorcycles, they're dangerous. If you want one though and have the means of getting one, you gotta go for it - you don't need and probably will never get their approval

[@bruceshema317]

How old are you? I bought a Z650 when i got 21 because I also couldnt get a motorcycle when I was 16-20 so I just waited untill I got older

[@nesquikbottletm7335]

I feel bad for you only reason I got mine is bc it so slow

[@nesquikbottletm7335]

@@jollygreengiant9490 i did with mine and my parents hates bikes

[@LouDog-bx1ep]

anyone who says "this isnt a REAL bike" clearly doesnt know what they're talking about I mean like anything with two wheels and a motor is REAL enough for me like my pit bike rides almost just like a grom and I've learned a whole lot on it.

[@woodiedave1179]

They compared a 300cc to a 125cc on a speed test up a hill. Clearly missing brain cells. I've had many bikes at this stage, my current daily driver is a grom. Previous owner was 6'6 and had no issues with riding position or knees getting in the way for a full lock, it just needs to be set up correctly.

[@LouDog-bx1ep]

@@woodiedave1179 Exactly

[@Youngflyone2]

"you can be rougher with this throttle than you were with yourself last night" lmao best line I've ever heard 😂😂😂

[@timjohnson1199]

Trying to not let my imagination go with this one.

[@NoTENmoto]

I'm 6'3 198lbs and I got a grom as my first and only bike. I love it, but I only ride it around town. It's a fully modded bike, intake, tune and exhaust so it's a bit more peppy than a stock grom. I do however fully plan on getting a bigger bike really soon. Ride safe friends!

[@ianendangan7462]

To us in the Philippines, we are happy and contended with bikes and scooters at 100cc to 150cc. Though we can't use it in toll roads we can reach out destinations without any issues.

[@gettafa]

I've had a Grom for two years and 16,000 miles and its brilliant. Admitidly I am a mere 5' 4", weighing in a 140lbs, so for me to have a bike I can actually flat foot is great. It does all I ask of it and I have got up to 75mph (down hill with the wind behind me) but I would agree it's not the best bike for anyone of average height and above.

[@CharlesManch]

samesies!!!!!

[@RIDEORDIE-ef2vl]

I'm 5'3 and looking to get into bikes so I am considering a grom

[@matthewjohnson4360]

How did this sentient dog know how rough I was with myself last night?

[@YT1344]

sorry Yam, you've missed the whole point! In 2 weeks a beginner (never ridden before) can grow as much as spending the whole season on a regular bike (personal experience with my wife). then can easily get to a 650 or something.

[@kxry4679]

It’s my first bike and i don’t ever plan on getting rid of it. I live in Fort Lauderdale so it’s perfect for my day to day commute. Also, a mt03 a real bike? Come on now. Apples to oranges 😂

[@datdudetrent8938]

I mean he is comparing the Grom to a beginner bike after all, not doing a Grom review.

[@yayger825]

And that's why I recommend every beginner start of with a busa, teaches you good throttle discipline, instead of going full-blown open throttle like these gromsters have been doing.

[@chewinggum365]

I got it as a first bike and put 3000 miles on it commuting through DC all season I really enjoyed riding it. Its pretty good offroad with duel sport tires.

[@LilGrizzynick]

Would it be ok to go off road with stock tires?😅

[@briarfox637]

No regrets getting my Grom as a first bike. Love this thing. Its the Grom that could.

[@squid4367]

never been on a bike before and ive just ordered mine, looking forward to it!

[@lukechorlton4517]

Its all well and good comparing a grom to a mt03 but if im not mistaken, you are comparing a 125 to a 300. In England thats a whole different license because of power restrictions etc. But if you are comparing a 125 to another bike, maybe another 125 is more usefull for beginner riders

[@off.coast.gromer5940]

Right on mah boy

[@davidleroth8644]

My suzuki eliminator 125 spanked my dudes grom haha. I graduated to bigger ones tho

[@BritishArmyTributes]

Agree, he doesn't really cater to us UK bois though :(. He's in Freedom Land where you can basically start out on a Busa if you want

[@lukechorlton4517]

@@BritishArmyTributes cant always have it perfect though. Always great content though

[@BritishArmyTributes]

@@lukechorlton4517 No complaints here! We love the Yam

[@Snappynappybullpen]

I have to say I’m new to street bikes and haven’t been on any kind of bike in several decades. At 6’1 280 I picked up a grom at the beginning of summer, a 3 owner 19 with 1500k for 2500 bucks. With the exception of turning completely numb after 25 miles I loved every minute of it. Any intimidation factor wore off in under three minutes. After 1000 miles I rode 50 miles to trade it on a new cb500f and got more in trade than I paid for it plus a price of 5k on the new one. I did have an offer of an mt03 for 500 dollars less but thought the cb500f was easily worth 500 more and I’m glad I did. I’m not intimidated at all on it outside of the wind blast at 70mph which any naked bike will do. I see your point and agree to an extent but for me it was a good progression and one I think I’ll be happy with for many years as it’s purposed as a commuter first and leisure a distant second. For 2500 that I recovered over 100% I confirmed I did want a commuter bike and wanted to do so within the same timeframe as a car. Win.

[@TJPDmember]

As a 140lbs 5'8" Adult men, almost everything you said seemed positive except the highway part.

[@hothsurvivor]

Title should have been. Psuedo intellectuals hate on short people...

[@theq4602]

Not just short people, but people who can't wrestle a 350lb bike all day. I'm both

[@kannermw]

@hothsurvivor & @TheQ I'm 5-7 w/32" inseam and ride a VStrom 1000 without lowering or seat modifications. Only balls of feet touch ground with boots. 530 lb bike that has NEVER been laid over and capably ridden even 2-up w/wife. Also, own an ride DR650 and same story as far as suspension and seat. The key here is I know "how" to ride a motorcycle. I haven't ridden a bike under 185 cc since I was 14 years old and anything under 250 cc does not belong on American roads. Face it in America Groms are under-powered "junk" and poor value as far as motorcycles are concerned. I suppose if you are "shrimp" size or have a third world level income because of some intellectual disability than you might settle for a Grom but then maybe you should stick to bicycles or get a job as a circus clown so you can be paid for people to laugh at you riding your mini-bike for money.

[@CrackFactory]

​​@@kannermwstrong opinions for a weak boy

[@kannermw]

@@CrackFactory LOL My ballz are probably bigger than your brain. Whenever I see someone riding a Grom I think the circus is back in town or they just laid off all the 🤡 s🤣🤣

[@dantho790]

Swap a CBR300R engine if it doesn’t have enough power

[@Fearless154]

Nah too weak need LS swap.

[@nikothewagon1700]

@@Fearless154 with a supercharger lol

[@Jeff_Green]

Busa swap

[@lamoona4269]

@@Fearless154 the forza boys are gonna drop a lambo v12 in there.

[@hubertkam7647]

or a honda nsr 125 engine about the same power just half the weight

[@isaacdayley5628]

I'm 6'3 175lbs and have one as my first bike. My advice is to just sit on the back seat if your legs don't fit by the tank. 10hp is all I need to get around town, and if j need to go on the highway ill just drive a car.

[@thepsychicpeach8425]

Daaaaaamn bro😂I'm just imagining a tall dude on one of those things

[@terribletedd4001]

I can confirm that at 45 mph it still hurts to go down on the grom.

[@bil5479]

Can I get a no shit

[@sumomick]

@@bil5479 no shit

[@donaldduck3434]

Fact's

[@Acentia]

I disagree with some of the things you say.. I've been driving a Grom (MSX125) for 3 years.. It is amazing in tight traffic like where I live in Chiang Mai, Thailand. This bike was my first motorcycle. I have driven big bikes as well, and of course they are better for some things, but zipping in and out of close traffic is not one of them :P

[@DaveDoingDaveThings]

I did my CBT (basic training) on a Grom. I'm 6'1, 17 stone and felt like I was riding on a hair dryer.

[@zhangdy1108]

same did mine on Z125. I am 6'3 200lbs.

[@DaveDoingDaveThings]

@@zhangdy1108 did you struggle with the tight U turns sometimes because turning the bars and arranging your legs and arms is like origami on a Grom? I sure did

[@zhangdy1108]

Dave Bostock totoally. It did not go full lock cuz my legs were blocking it. And the throttle control is a bitch. Stalled it all the time :p

[@JM-rp9qf]

@@zhangdy1108 no clue why you'd want to go full lock anyways. When is it proper to go full lock?

[@pztgst]

I used a Grom to get the motorcycle endorsement on my license. It felt like cheating since everything is about low speeds and I felt it handled great in that parking lot. I ride a 500 on the streets though because i like actually having torque but don't want to kill myself with a liter bike.

[@LM-dj6gc]

I love the complaining about an A1 market bike not being a good beginner bike, it's a 125cc, it's literally designed for a beginner bike market? In your market, it's meant to be a toy, in most other markets, it's a brilliant bike for both learning on and for commuting on.

[@bleh8310]

Keep in mind the US is different than Europe. Many speed limits are higher here and more people use highways. If you're just in city then of course the power is fine. Also it's intentionally small framed and ergonomically isn't right for many people as they said in the video. It's designed to be a toy bike unlike other 125-300cc bikes.

[@LM-dj6gc]

Little Green mate, I directly mentioned that the US market is different. That doesn’t just magically stop it being a beginner bike.

[@Fearless154]

I agreed with "it a joy" but a poor learning tool for a beginner. The yammie's argument was that grom doesn't teach you skills which are necessary for a new rider. You can ride grom for many years but you'll never learn throttle control, Proper braking skills, and body position and actually, it can teach you bad habits with the throttle and braking. Yes, You can perfectly own a grom as your first bike and have tons of fun but if advancing as a rider is your goal it'll be a poor choice.

[@off.coast.gromer5940]

Anton Newman wrong the grom can teach you trottle control you just have to try and ride where the speed limit is low and don’t just imagine jumping from a grom to a r1 start thinking of reality not nonsense.

[@Fearless154]

@@off.coast.gromer5940 Jump from grom to r3 will be an issue let a lot to r1. What throttle control it can teach you? Literally to start moving with a grom you need full throttle.

[@togiisuperheavytank]

I'm short so send that grom over here

[@bil5479]

Short doesn’t matter, stop on one leg. THE END . Ull believe me one day

[@williamjagkenny5977]

Tbh, even though it is short, the seat is quite high, my benelli grom feels as tall as my 1250

[@togiisuperheavytank]

@@williamjagkenny5977 I'm not that short

[@togiisuperheavytank]

@@bil5479 24inch rims on my bicycle so I'm not that short because I'm able to use both legs on the groind

[@mikerivera6825]

Totally disagree. My Z125 was a perfect way to get into riding. Easy to maneuver, light and has excellent gas mileage. Its not fast but it doesn't need to be. It is fun and easy to ride starting out. I commuted to work for over a year on this and loved every minute. I have upgraded to a bigger bike and have now turned my Z into a trail bike but both bikes are fun in their own way and owe my start in the sport to my Z.

[@berkk29]

This guy is biased af dont take him too serious

[@mikerivera6825]

@@berkk29 I generally find his videos resourceful and have gained a lot of riding knowledge from them but just had to give my 2 cents on this one as a proud owner of a 125.

[@bigguy8586]

A lot of your reasons of why its not a beginner bike supports it being a great beginner bike. I don't want my kid to get on the freeway until he has a year or so of riding under his belt. He's small so the fact that that the bike is small is perfect. It's underpowered, great! I don't want him doing wheelies and showing off or going 100+ mph. Your reasons are b.s.. The weight is another great reason.

[@blahblah6474]

I bought a Ducati scrambler 800 before getting a motorcycle endorsement kind of a knee jerk decision with no test rides and minimum research online. Ended up being a great bike, no reliability problems at all. Considering I see them going on cycle trader for around $6,000-7,000 with really low mileage, I think they are a great beginner bike.

[@themartianbiker3865]

A grom was my first bike and despite all these very true negatives, it was so much damn fun ... especially when u hit those nooners

[@glockguy5682]

Did you ever “outgrow” it or become bored of it?

[@Jagknorr]

The grom panic braking can definitely lock the front wheel and make you flip over the front. Someone did it during my MSF course lol.

[@aragorn1780]

When I wrecked my ninja 500 I went down at about 35-40mph My bike got totalled and I was pretty banged up in a world of pain (tho thankfully nothing broken... Just a VERY bad shoulder and knee sprain and some road rash.. Still enough to be out of it for a bit!) The way I see it, it doesn't matter how big or small your bike is, going down at 35mph is going down at 35mph, and if a grom can go as fast if not faster then they are just as dangerous as riding a ninja 500 at the same speed lol

[@bksym]

I’m 5”6, 16 gonna get a grom for my 17th I don’t need the motorway just to have a lil fun with my friends and go college :)

[@joey5773]

The grom won't be very practical for going to college as it will very quickly become uncomfortable and you may struggle to keep up with traffic. All up to you.

[@miklasson]

@@joey5773 naah, he'll be fine. He can easily split between cars in traffic jams and have a lot of fun on it with his friends.

[@joey5773]

@@miklasson good point, I guess it's all personal preference.

[@chodiusmaximus4042]

Don't listen to them. I have a 2019 Yamaha R1 but i still prefer the grom. It's a fun bike to whip around on. I'd take my grom to work majority of the times instead of my r1

[@miklasson]

The R1 needs longer time for the engine to heat up since it's a lot bigger. You could easily start the grom and instantly drive away or go on the highway without worrying about blowing the engine. Which is way more practical for commuting.

[@anthonybrz]

So I’m 29. 5’11” about 175lb. Grom was my first bike. (Had riding experience prior). Some easy mods like clutch springs will help clutch feel. I had a built drz400sm and traded that for a fz07. Fz07 is an amazing bike and I feel I can grow into it a little more. But the grom still has a place in my garage, and will for a long time because around town is just so fun. Plus a lot of my friends have groms so that helps too. I’d recommend a grom as a first bike, esp someone that’s intimated to get on anything bigger. Can introduce them to how to counter steer. Use a clutch and shift, basic maintenance. I do agree that using one to commute day to day is a little much, but as a toy, it’s great.

[@timjohnson1199]

In the 70s my buddy had a Honda 90 that we would all ride. It would flip when you spank the throttle. One of my friends wheelied it into a log pile and dislocated his shoulder. We tried to fix it with a book but eventually took him to a hospital in the back of an old pickup.

[@aao331]

hahaha

[@LouDog-bx1ep]

now thats a childhood

[@benzinschnueffler187]

I had my driving lessons on a Grom Edit: This was in Germany and I took it on the Autobahn

[@DR4WZ]

I started on a Grom! Graduated to a Ninja 400, now I ride a ZX6R, Vulcan 800, Suzuki Savage and DR350. Still have my Grom also and would have never taken up riding if not for the Grom!!

[@nickcraciun]

I’ve heard soooo many people say it’s a great beginner bike... Do u think it is? And how tall are you?

[@DR4WZ]

@@nickcraciun the more I learn about riding, the more I think the Grom is not a great beginner bike. I would recommend the Grom as a second or third bike, because you appreciate how fun it is once you have the fundamentals of riding mastered. I'm 5'10" by the way.

[@nickcraciun]

@@DR4WZ thanks a lot man! From what I’ve read and seen since this, I now think I’m going to get a different bike to start on. I’ve never ridden before, so I don’t wanna start with something like the grom, especially if it doesn’t teach the skills properly.

[@DR4WZ]

@@nickcraciun no problem! If I could go back and talk to my former self, I would have recommended starting on something like a used Ninja 650. Try to pay cash outright, because I think when you finance a motorcycle, you're more nervous of dropping it, so you may be hesitant to lean it, practice slow speed maneuvers, etc. If you own it outright and someone has already dropped it for you a few times before you buy it, you're just adding to the character when you drop it, plus it'll be a heck of a better price! Anyway, the Ninja 650 is a parallel twin which means it has predictable power, lower seat height than a 4 cylinder 600 Supersport, and very forgiving of jerky inputs from the rider. That's where I would start...

[@off.coast.gromer5940]

You know it’s a 125 cc bike and only have 9 hp right? And there are more countries in the world than just USA so in norway a honda grom is an amazing bike for a a1 license and everyone loves it here and you actually you have to be gentle with the trottle but you can say what you want

[@danielzaia5051]

It was my first bike... I sold it, never got another motorcycle :(. It was so fun

[@andresfernandez2405]

Why'd you give up riding man?

[@quantumleap4023]

That's a weird story. Why quit riding if it was so fun?

[@youtubeuser2188]

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[@joem13yearsago73]

Give us answers daniel!

[@kannermw]

Couldn't afford it on his parents allowance after buying soy milk and video games. Drinking all that soy milk caused him to get jiggly man breasts that were all the more apparent on the Grom clown bike and his buds started trying to cop a feel😂

[@jacobcherchio4471]

This was actaully a really cool video to watch. As someone that started on a Grom (still owns it) and bought an R3 a year later, I can actually agree with these arguments. Learning on the Grom was definitely not the greatest for reasons you explained like the price to quality comparison or top speeds (although i've done 67 on the interstate with a stock engine grom) but the main reason I was probably able to get away with it is because i'm so dang short for an "adult". Being stuck at 5'4" kinda made the Grom good for me, even though learning on the R3 would've probably been better. I've let my friends ride the Grom and they all love it but unless you're a shorter rider, it definitely isn't a beginner bike. Out of everything though, the Grom did make me realize one thing. Upright riding is a lot more comfortable. MT-09 here I come lol. Thanks for the awesome video!

[@chipipuzzle4296]

your videos are just above all other motorbike creators the way you talk to your viewers is just perfect i love it 😂 keep up the work man ♥️

[@braydonk3287]

The Grom is what I did with my motorcycle course on. It does have a friction zone but it's so so tiny that I stalled over 10 times during the first hour of my course

[@Stephanie-ou2fd]

I probably stalled 50+ times over the weekend while doing the course on a grom 💀 I also noticed the same thing with the friction zone

[@austinveta4847]

You bring up good points, but they are subjective. The grom was my first motorcycle and I can agree that it is fairly slow for highway use, but it definitely gets the job done. When it comes to weight, and throttle discipline, I agree that you can develop bad habits. Just dont rush anything when learning on a "real bike" like going 60 on a gas powered 2 wheeled vehicle isnt a "real bike"

[@stablestoic1491]

Lolz. "You can be tougher with this throttle..." Thanks yam. I almost spit my coffee no lie. 👍

[@AZNHELLCAT]

2023 Honda grom is my first bike and first ever motorcycle ever ride. I’m in love with riding now. Now I want a bigger bike.

[@ABCABC-sq5db]

8:03 hands on the waist Yammie! You can pull the throttle while holding onto the shoulder.

[@mfranks4731]

I've been watching your videos for a year now i finally passed my driving test today on the way home I stopped by Aprilia with my dad and I am now the owner for a 2017 Rsv4 rr

[@dhoyt902]

Your content keeps getting better and better. Teaming up with Spite was such a big dick maneuver and it added so much dynamic commentary. I effin' love this channel.

[@timjohnson1199]

My first "real" motorcycle was a sixties Triumph 250 (full size) that I rebuilt (basket case). Less power, worse brakes, crappy electrics, et al. Tons of fun.

[@soundbyJC]

I have one sat in my garage ready for my 17th birthday thats in 11 months :D In the UK you can have a 125cc at 17 and no more, so I'll be using it for college commuting.

[@matthewshultz8762]

Intro alone is why i love y'all more than anything ty for convincing me to buy a motorcycle

[@mrwelderman1357]

No Grom Squad for life

[@SteveVar_traxnyc]

I took my motorcycle safety course on a grom and I almost failed because I couldn’t find the friction point and kept stalling.

[@plasma_659]

for an A1 license it seems like a good bike, I would go for a yzf r125 but it seems to sensible, whereas a grom is just a fun bike

[@jefftimcik6373]

Absolutely love this bike for riding around town.

[@gustavosanchez6325]

That’s good was gonna get a trim due to a coworker but thank god for this useful video

[@superjavi9820]

We totally get it they came out in 2014 we know there small but fun still a great in town bike for anyone under 200 pounds

[@veightrwd8828]

Why don’t you do a z125 review, compare the two.

[@romanryuninvalek487]

The point is that this is a real motorcycle, that is soo forgiving, that it is not a good idea to learn on this bike if you don' want to get bad habits. It has taken me several months to learn to smoothly accelerate and decellerate on a big bike, so now I will be smooth even when riding a small bike like this. The weight also means you can get away with things you would never get away with on a bigger bike. I am sure a good, experienced rider will ride it properly, but a beginner will not make progress as the bike will not punish his or her mistakes.

[@iTiSHeaven]

Anyone else feel like it's stupid calling any bike a "real" bike?

[@yammienoob]

Sounds like you need a *real bike*

[@caseyjones6316]

Shots fired

[@stephenpierce2726]

@@yammienoob Must be CVO time for ol Fin

[@iTiSHeaven]

@@yammienoob touché

[@MrGerritv]

I'm so Glad Spite is on the channel even for the fact alone that he is similar sized to me!

[@bigguy8586]

Of course a 230 lb. 6 foot dude shouldnt get a grom but a 16 yr old kid that you want to live. This bike is good for learning how to drive.

[@jcmorrisital]

Lol wish I could get something larger than 125cc on a CBT

[@razu1976]

I still have my 125 from when I was learning, and it's genuinely still just as much fun to ride as it was when I started. It's just a different kind of fun to a bike that does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and doesn't get blown all over the road in the slightest wind! Switching between the two is a nightmare 😅😅😅 You've got it all ahead of you 👍👍👍

[@TheKeyToEverywhere]

I feel you bro...

[@ravenyzf8293]

Enjoy the 125 years.. you'll miss it

[@CheapskateMotorsports]

Being on a CBT feels kinda like what I imagine the other type of CBT feels like

[@chrishart8548]

I don't miss being blown all over the place on the 125. When or normal bike just stays planted.

[@MacMoney20]

I have a Z125 as my first bike. I love it! I’m short so that’s a huge plus and got it next to dirt cheap.

[@mangohoe163]

My bf told me not to get a bike bc he knew people who died riding, I appreciate the concern but I’m not gonna knock it till I try it

[@bil5479]

U got the wrong boyfriend

[@datdudetrent8938]

Don't get a car either. Or ride the tram, subway, jet, bus, private helicopter, etc...

[@ToanR]

i went from a 1000cc to a grom LOL the grom is so fun

[@gnesmond]

Kawasaki z400 is the best beginner bike. It is my first bike. Got it for 3k and it had 27 miles. Came from Texas near Yammie, and his delivery man, delivered mine.

[@jays7404]

Perfect for me I'm small and dont plan on getting a full size motorcycle

[@texasbob66]

After watching a few videos I realized I live in the same area - love seeing the neighborhood!

[@mr.irishboy5187]

*Top ten biggest anime fights: Number 10. “Yammie noob and spite who has to ride the grom for this video”

[@supraking85]

i really, really, really miss my grom.

[@Noadvantage246]

Funny how the grom got such a cult following, wonder if Honda will invest in making it a better bike now as there's clearly demand and it seems like they put bare minimum effort at first.

[@liamwilliams4502]

Why would you compare a Grom against an MT03? 🤔

[@blakemax14]

you meet the nicest people on a honda example look at these cute couple on a grom

[@SuperCinemaCraft]

Watched this video and still got my grom. First bike I bought was wayy too big and powerful and I want somthing to hit scooter speeds around town and maybe stunt a little once u get a larger daily bike

[@501stfighter3]

Well the Grom was my first bike, I had no problems until I want a bigger engine so I got a Honda CB 500F.

[@nsengel4672]

The thing is the Grom(real name MSX 125) wasn't made for the US market. It was made in Asia for Asians. The average male weighs 60kg and is 5'5. It's not for fat Americans over 6ft. Asian towns and city streets are way narrower and you usually don't go over 40mph. It's why most ride scooters and most bikes don't go over 300cc. With a 300 you are faster than 99% of all traffic even on the highways. It's the same reason Asians think Harleys are the most useless bikes ever. Big slow,heavy and a pain to own and ride. Compare the bikes to the enviroment they were meant to be used in. Why doesn't Yam take his Daytone 675 on the Paris to Dakar rally and see how great it is then? The steering feel...the brakes. Be subjective guys.

[@michaelclark3192]

Yeah I was going to mention that it's sold as a Honda MSX in Asia as a commuter bike for smaller people who's competition is 125cc scooters and old school underbones and standards. I also noticed another bike we don't get here called the Yamaha MSlaz 125 that's a similar type of bike.

[@nsengel4672]

@@michaelclark3192 The Asian markets differs alot Western ones. The Mslaz is a real nice streetfighter tipe bike. I commute everyday from home to work on a bike in Asia. In traffic,during rainy season ect. I ride a 200cc and even that is too big sometimes and a pain in the ass. Parking spots...bike getting scratched in packed traffic. If you ride a beginner bike by western standards (RC390, SV 650 ect) in the rain on greasy tarmac, with a snappy throttle and grabby brakes you will end up somewhere in a ditch or under a truck. I see atleast 50 MSX's everyday and they make perfect sense for their enviroment.

[@joshuajones6589]

Great video yammie. Funniest motorcycle KZbin video I’ve seen

[@nathanaelvillalba7838]

I love how everyone who loves Rockform phone holders never actually have their phone on it lol. They do look legit but have no sport bike option.

[@daithi154]

Im 5ft6 you bet im gonna get this grom as my first bike and work my way up to a 390 duke after a year

[@cullenzimprich930]

I like this style of vid yam

[@KTM525racer]

Love my grom as a 2nd bike, I get to do the dumb stuff I can’t do on my CB919! But yeah a grom for an adult as a first bike is prob not a good choice. For a teen, or a female yes. My wife loves hers.

[@trady999]

Every 125cc rider feeling attacked!

[@Denajsmoto]

I'm a 14y/o 175cm kid, i got a honda msx for 500usd and it works perfectly for me. i mean I'm just going to ride to school or idk Mcdonalds. l just moved to thailand from sweden, and the msx and grom are perfect for the roads here.

[@MetalJoe0609]

To pile on to the clutch hate on these things, when I bought mine, I honestly thought something was wrong with it. The clutch never really feels like it's fully engaged.

[@DonDutch-bm2iq]

his first point, throttle control.. its true, i went from a 250 Supermoto to a 690 supermoto and was deff a learning curve. i was still wacking throttle every where like a pissed off teenager.. which is exactly how i ride, but few speed wobbles here and there and i realize i have to tone it back just a hair.

[@mr-killergaming9705]

These reasons are not good enough to stop me.

[@Fearless154]

Why would you want a grom as your first bike anyway? It lacks any appeal, It looks like shit it rides like shit and you can't ride outside the city. I can see the appeal for experienced rider to get one to beat the living crap out of it. Just curious why makes you want to own a bike like this as your first one?

[@Fearless154]

@Joey Jackson "Just mod it" and what you'll get 3 mph added to your top speed while wasting money which could buy you already a much more capable bike. Let not mention the fact that riding a grom in highway speeds is an absolute rape of its air-cooled small engine and it won't last for long by doing so. No shit captain obvious it appeals to him more than a bigger bike if he wants one that's why I asked him for the reason in the first place.

[@kannermw]

@@Fearless154 IMO these guys treat buying a Grom motorcycle like another toy or a form of entertainment. It's for those unwilling to go all in and commit financially to something that is actually safe and practical. Maybe the Groms are viewed as less intimidating. The Grom and it's it's other competitors are hitting a price point in the $3,500 range after taxes. Realistically, individuals could buy a used 1, 2 or 3 year old superior bike for less or new carry-over year models for only slightly more. Who knows maybe it's because the circus is actively recruiting and there are many new future career opportunities for clowns in training.

[@thatnicklongo5939]

@@kannermw It really doesn't matter what you or anyone thinks about the Grom. If he wants one and feels happy with it then who can stop him.

[@kannermw]

That Nick Longo Anyone can obviously spend their money as they choose. Fundamentally, I have an issue with individuals misleading others (young naive buyers) to not look at other potentially better options. They do this by misrepresenting Grom without other fair benchmarks of comparison. Yammie provides a true educated perspective that Grom buyers refute because they feel compelled to justify their decision based on their personal bias (human nature) . If you only ever rode a goat then don’t imply that a horse wouldn’t be a better choice. IMO and probably Yammies, a Grom is mostly a goat.

[@footballdude45]

I used a grom for the MSF last month. It really was too small even for that and I’m small, 5’7” 130lbs. I dominated the figure 8 box on the grom but found myself struggling with my Z400 on the same day. Clutch control wasn’t learned properly and groms turn tight like a bicycle allowing for some bad habits to go unnoticed.

[@stabbincabbincowbboy3770]

After Riding Bikes For 40yrs The 2020 GROM I Have is a Great Bike For Fun Only... 👍🏻🤠🇺🇸

[@GooseFrischmann]

Yep totally all subjective points but valid! Super excited to get my grom soon 😍

[@benjaminpowell9758]

Just got one. It’s my 14th motorbike. Also have a Rc51...I already know which one is going to be used more.

[@evanbevere1376]

Got a grom as my first bike. Being that I never rode motorcycle before. I very quickly out grew it and got a CBR600rr. The grom was a lot of fun but limiting like the video said. If I stunted I probably would of kept it

[@timjohnson1199]

Ya know: No bike is perfect. You can't have just one bike.

[@pinospin9588]

except bicycle

[@Noadvantage246]

You can definitely have just 1 bike lmao. I have many hobbies and it's so funny how everyone is like this in their hobby. With guns everyone thinks you need at least 10, fishing ppl think you need like minimum 5 poles and at least 2 filled tackle boxes, mtb biking you gotta have 3+, ect. Y'all should stop stock pilling one interest and explore other things

[@AleksAndrosik]

Yo man! I'm long time subscriber!Please draw attention to the revolution in Belarus! Bikers there are first line of defence against the forces and Army. Govt shuts down social networks and Internet all over the country so hard to get it out there! U got so many bikers watching you from all over the world!! Please support the Belarusian people with our fight for freedom!

[@quacktac]

I'm getting a Monkey as my first bike as I think there's a good chance I'll want to keep it when I get something better once insurance isn't prohibitively expensive.

[@jessescott4391]

I like the Grom and I still wanna buy me one next year i don't really wanna go fast or get a bigger bike i just wanna play on the Grom/ two wheels