Year in Review: CineD Camera Lab Tests of 2024

Year in Review: CineD Camera Lab Tests of 2024 - CineD Focus Check Ep45

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@carlporter2239 Ай бұрын

Let’s hope this type of more “technical” podcasts does well, because we need more of it, the industry is very interested in the sciences behind our tools, thanks !

@nick_salazar Ай бұрын

Niko, Johnnie, Gunther, and all the rest of the CineD crew are doing outstanding work. Thank you for all your efforts in conducting these tests, creating these databases, and making them available to the public. You are a HUGELY helpful resource for the filmmaking world.

@cugan83 Ай бұрын

Such an important independent test in a wild west of inflated claims.

@johannbauermeister3916 Ай бұрын

Great talk, learnt quite a few things, some important insights, so thanks guys, keep up the excellent work! Very much appreciated.

@Jmccabe1111 Ай бұрын

I really appreciate this video. Well done!

@shagral Ай бұрын

Great discussion, thanks guys!

@CineD Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Chips-Lab Ай бұрын

Great talk ! Hope for global shutter on S1HII in 2025 🙏🏼

@FenwayJazzJam Ай бұрын

Thank you SO much for the work you do! It’s truly a public service to everyone trying to make informed decisions about what can be very expensive purchases. Not to mention the tests hold the camera companies to account for what they claim. Kudos to you!!!’

@Wildridefilms Ай бұрын

Global shutters need time to read out the entire sensor just like rolling shutter sensors do. The ADC can only process a given number of (sub)pixels a second. They just have on board circuitry that makes the image capture happen all at once unlike a rolling shutter. So no, just because a camera has a global shutters doesn't mean that there is no sensor level limitation for higher frame rates. Also want to appreciate you guys for doing great work in acquiring objective data to fact check absurd DR claims and educate the filmmakers about the more important factor that is latitude.

@EugeneMaynard Ай бұрын

Very informative! 👍🏾🙏🏾 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇸🇪🇹🇹

@CineD Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@ResizeFilms Ай бұрын

It’s really time for Sony to have some sort of RAW format internally on the next gen Cinema Line cameras, namely the upcoming FX6 and FX3 mk2. The current all-intra codecs are fine but they really start to lag behind when compared with the internal RAW codecs of the (fierce) competition. The FX3 can’t even record MXF files like the FX6 for unknown reasons, you have to transcode on CB to get the Sony RAW functionality on Resolve which is extremely time consuming. Sony obviously have the knowledge and the financial resources to make it happen if they really want to. Having great AF and low light performance isn’t enough anymore, most competitors have internal RAW nowadays which is a major advantage for professional work. It’s certainly nice to get a great codec like BRAW coming in September through the V7.0 firmware update but it will still be externally. Not ideal at all. It’s time Sony.

@contentm3893 13 күн бұрын

I think the FX3 will have a global shutter and use the A9III sensor. That to me is the perfect upgrade and natural progression just like the Fx3.

@11.Pierre Ай бұрын

I'm just glad Black Magic has good customer service in case issues arise. As long as they take care of it and it doesn't fail on set, we're set.

@RubenStuveling Ай бұрын

Hello, Thank you for the great podcast with a lot of interesting information. I have a question for Gunther: you mentioned briefly that the Blackmagic Pyxis and Cinema 6K use an OLPF that they share with Panasonic Lumix camera's. Is this a suspicion or is this a fact? From what I have seen the Lumix cameras seem to suffer from moire more than the Blackmagic camera's.

@contentm3893 13 күн бұрын

Can you guys test color reproduction moving forward? Canon and Sony make great cameras and it would be great to see how these cameras hold up across all dynamic range test including different codecs and bit rates.

@angryrabbitproductions1690 Ай бұрын

I can confirm, the A9III has features Sony’s best sensor for video. It’s a wonderful camera to work with. I would like to see Sony address the corner distortion with IBIS that currently plagues wide lenses… So far only Panasonic has addressed this issue. Ideally, Sony could add open gate and internal raw… all of these features could be added via firmware update. The sensor, processor and cards are all easily fast enough,

@contentm3893 13 күн бұрын

Why is the S9III the best Sony sensor for video?

@danielvilliers612 Ай бұрын

Test have really slowed down. I wanted to see thd test if the Nikon z6 iii camera that came out more than 6 months ago.

@MrGuMac Ай бұрын

Have a look at the lab database! You will find it there!

@felipehenaovideo Ай бұрын

Interesting, by the way Magic lantern totally reliable can record 4K 14 bit uncompressed with 12 14 years old cameras limit is 24P and 14 bit Un compressed 30P Open Gate at 1080, NO THIS OR NEXT YEAR, seems like manufacturers are holding features that already exist, By the way very interesting Focus check

@Wildridefilms Ай бұрын

The sensors are read out at 12 bit or sometimes even 10 bit in some older cameras. Producing a 14 bit uncompressed RAW is just wasteful of processing power and storage. That is like shooting 1080p video and exporting it in 4k. Another problem with those cameras is the readout speed. Most of those older cameras can't even do 24 fps full width readout in 12 bit. So they either drop the bit depth to 10 bit or take a substantial crop to deliver an acceptable frame rate.

@felipehenaovideo Ай бұрын

@@Wildridefilms Try ML if possible you get a Photographic 14 bit RAW Codec however watch how you work.

@Wildridefilms Ай бұрын

@@felipehenaovideo as I said, the final file is "14 bit RAW" but the sensor readout is in 12 bit at best, most likely 10 bit in those older cameras.

@jamesbridges1107 Ай бұрын

@@felipehenaovideo sure, just tell your client your software hack screwed up so the project needs to be reshot. That should go over really well.

@felipehenaovideo Ай бұрын

@@jamesbridges1107 The latest version named Cropmood after a couple of years of using it, is as I said totally reliable, however is not for anyone you really need to know what you are doing.