Yellowjackets and the Ancient Origins of the Antler Queen | Season 2

[@FeyFire]

Dang KZbin messed up my Steve edit for the cuss words around 14 min! But I hope you all enjoy - and don't forget to pray to the wilderness to protect Steve!! 🐾

[@quester09]

feck KZbin. go Steve!

[@angelanichols6244]

I love this video essay and your discussion of the symbolism, mythology, archetypes, analysis of the characters, references to other books, movies and shows. I crave this kind of discussion and look forward to more of your offerings. Do you have other content besides this account ? I just want to add that I noticed someone else's mention of Women Who Run the Wolves. I just started reading that last week even though I have owned the book for many years. OK, since 1992 ! But through YJs, your video that I first watched a month ago, my ever growing desire to be part of a coven, lifelong interest in Mythology, reading poetry and listening to Florence and the Machine's Dance Fever, I was moved to take the book off the shelf ! Finally ! I have the feeling you have read already but if not I highly recommend it. I've been listening to Clarissa Pinkola Estes on Audible. Thank you again so much for your content !

[@Mark-pl3bv]

11:42 Jackie didn't like rabbits, though! It's confirmed in the same episode. Her parents didn't know her, society didn't know her. So Shauna's not killing something Jackie liked, reliving her death. She's rather killing the perfect Jackie that society created and perceived (both alive and dead). The perfect Jackie that didn't allow the real Jackie (who was deeply insecure in her identity) to welcome the Wilderness, which eventually killed her. So, killing the rabbits is rather an attack on structured society (and therefore links Shauna to the Wilderness).

[@linguisticsnerd433]

Wow this was so insightful and explains how connected Shauna really is to Jackie, she knew the real Jackie ❤

[@funde19]

I feel like you'd be a fun person to be in a blunt rotation with.

[@ldydyk]

Finally a review that analyzes the symbolism and metaphors. As an English teacher, I despair at the number of KZbin posts that merely recount the story line. I want meat. Thank you. PS I'm Canadian and spend time in the bush. It is the only place where I feel serenity; however, I am aware to the dangers. I met a bear once. Luckily for me, the bear was as scared of me as I was of her. I like to tell my students that humans think they are important. If we were to meet a tiger (for instance), the tiger would see food. The tiger doesn't care that you broke up with your boyfriend. This concept is intolerable for most people. Thanks again.

[@FeyFire]

Thank you for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it. 🦉 I am from the Pacific Northwest, so I definitely understand finding peace in the Wilderness. It's in all of us! 💫 Thanks again!

[@Anglo-Saxon-Saffa]

Brilliantly explained, I agree ☝🏼 💯 especially what you say about nature. Love this show and also appreciated a more in-depth analysis of the symbology and deeper meanings of what’s shown in the show. Lux et Veritas 🙏🌿- a South African Yellowjackets fan living in the U.K.

[@UltraViolet666]

Mistys connection to birds may also be to do with birds being underestimated compared to land mammals. They're easily dismissed, but they're always watching (owls are literally the observer) and they're very very intelligent. And birds survive & thrive everywhere.

[@Heartofitall9691]

They are also excellent predators!!! Owls. Silent and deadly hunters at night. I thought it was odd that in such a wild area with wolves that they didn't have rafters (gaggles) of wild turkeys. They would have been everywhere, just saying😂

[@ilanakarp]

I also think that the trivia answer from the first episode that Shauna answers correctly of Paradise Lost plays into the storyline … the temptation of evil and the urge to eat the “forbidden” seems to be a huge arch for her.

[@danizzotwerkgaryen5691]

100%

[@angelanichols6244]

@@danizzotwerkgaryen5691 Twekgaryen, I love it 😆 My account name for Hulu is Khaleesi, so each time I watch Hulu it greets me as Khaleesi !

[@erinesee]

And she called the lady on tv a dumb bitch- which let us know she isn't as sweet as we might think😊

[@nicolewilton1462]

You should definitely read “Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype” by Clarissa Pinkola Estes. It’s my absolute favorite book and I’ve reread the chapter on Vasilisa the Beautiful and Baba Yaga many times. Vasilia is ultimately given a flaming skull to help guide her home through the wilderness. She’s originally afraid of the flaming skull, but then embraces it and learns to use it to her advantage.

[@anunnakicrown]

VasiLISA, eh?

[@angelanichols6244]

It's so interesting that you mentioned this book because I just started reading it even though I have owned it since it came out in 1992 ! I completely agree with your recommendation. I love the story about Vasilisa and Baba Yaga

[@ThatArabGirl10]

I read that book in the 90's, when I was in college.

[@eksavester1562]

Should I remind you that Vasilisa need the flaming skull torch to give her step mom and step sisters. It wasn't just used for survival, it was prove herself she is capable of surviving anything that gets in her way. Eventually she got what she wanted, a married life with a king. She was satisfied not with happiness, but with gratitude.

[@ltrskltr]

Travis is definitely the Stag which he turned into at Doomcoming. I think Misty is the Owl, her familiar is a bird and she has big round googly glasses-lol

[@QueAwkwardNoises]

Sadly it isn’t an owl, but an opossum! When misty reveals her face during the cannibal council she seems to be wearing beaver furs in her “overseer” role

[@PK4Real]

INCREDIBLE Video!!! Absolutely loved it. You touched on so may themes and archetypes that resonate throughout the show. My one note is that the characters and dialogue have heavily foreshadowed that not everything questionable that they did in the wilderness was to survive. If that was the case, they would be willing to talk about it. But it seems there was far worse behavior than that, which is yet to be revealed. And they want it concealed at all costs. Must be pretty bad indeed.

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much! Yes, there definitely seems to be some sort of terrible secret that lies behind the curtain of the Wilderness. Whatever it is, it seems as though they are relying upon the wild to keep their secret - so perhaps that is why they must worship and sacrifice to it.

[@slawck9635]

This video is absolutely brilliant. You nailed it. I'll bet the producers of the show hope not too many people see this video lol. The story of our last 300 years has been about the conquest of nature. What would happen to all of us if we we didn't have the world that has been built on top of the wilderness. Especially the people that consider themselves indoor people haha

[@mjcaboose3479]

Travis’s familiar is the bear with him as the hunter and Lottie ultimately killing him. Like a caged bird and a wolf domesticated he’s a bear caught in a trap.

[@FeyFire]

Love this 🙌

[@bettyp5669]

This is interesting because everyone saw him a stag when they tried hunting him

[@kathleens2324]

This analysis was excellent, thank you. You also tied Yellowjackets to two other things I love, the Witch and Mists of Avalon. Mind blowingly good 😉

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. 💫

[@11235877]

Love the detailed analysis of the characters,love the parallels you drew between the film 'The witch' and yellowjackets,i never thought of it like that.

[@11235877]

I really don't want there to be a supernatural link,and i want all the weird stuff to be attributed to base human desires,and also want the rational Misty to watch and gently nudge the girls into gradual madness 😅😅

[@angelanichols6244]

The Witch is one of my favorite movies, a modern horror masterpiece !

[@Stillwater1967]

Please read up on The Bacchae the play from Greek history. This story completely plays out. The entire race through the woods is the same feel. Loved your analysis

[@FeyFire]

Oooh is it some Dionysian rituals? I'll have to check it out! Thanks for watching! 🍷🍓

[@Stillwater1967]

THE Dionysian ritual 🙌

[@FeyFire]

@@Stillwater1967 awesome, I'll definitely look into it!

[@Ch50304]

@@Stillwater1967 Sounds intriguing, it ties nicely with the themes.

[@bettyp5669]

Yeeeees, I'm so happy to hear I wasn't the only one that thought if this parallel

[@jovanakrivokapic]

i have no words for how good this show is

[@shekwaga]

Love this analysis. I just binged the entire series and hopped on youtube to see if there was a dive into the symbolism and mysticism. Just subscribed!

[@FeyFire]

Thanks so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 💫

[@milab2489]

Like your analysis. I grow up in similar forest I could never understand why people are so afraid of it and it is depicted in so many horror movies.I guess the primal fear of the unknown , in forest is actually piece full even in darkest places, or I could have accepted it long time ago. Antler queen and many themes remind me of Hannibal- the series. Again its symbol of devil, darkness etc. You are right how far actually civilized people are from their own darkness and fear and denial are just hypocrite :)

[@FeyFire]

Thanks Mila! Same here - I'm from the PNW so it looks fun to me 😂 but we must be more in touch with our inner feral wilderness! 🔥 Thank you for watching 🙌🦉

[@HK-gm8pe]

I dont know exactly but I lived most of my life in the forrest aswell and my grandmother always told me to stay out of the dark forrest in the nighttime ....its easy to get lost in there also wild animas and so on , my grandmother is a practicing witchcraft and she believes that forrest holds a special power

[@FeyFire]

@@HK-gm8pe Grandma sounds awesome! 💫

[@fleetwoodmak777]

there is a psychological theory that what puts humans off most about bugs and spiders despite the fact that they’re typically so powerless and harmless compared to humans is they serve as a reminder that the wilderness and society don’t interfere by choice of society, but rather wilderness - when we see a spider casually hanging out in the corner of our home, watching us, we remember how little control we have in society and the greater world. the wilderness is society completely removed.

[@justinejustice_league1857]

Also, isn't it insane how otherwise mortal wounds are healing incredibly fast in the situation, not even signs of infection. Another supernatural gift or ability I disagree with there not being an unforseen force The wilderness is extremely old, which means a lot has happened there when civilization was very alone. I live near Colonial Williamsburg and parts of it still gives me the creeps, I don't think it's a throw away feeling. The women each are beginning to inadvertently offer up their own sacrifices, but Lottie continues to resist by cutting begging for it to be enough.

[@FeyFire]

The show runners have said there is no "monster in the woods," so I believe the woods and wilderness itself are the force. Interesting wording - when you put it in the context of Lottie "cutting" it opens up a different way of looking at it, especially with her therapy session... 🙌 Thanks for watching!

[@danizzotwerkgaryen5691]

yeah life all around us. the trees are just as much alive as we are

[@0912sooli]

Monster is their minds

[@OM-qb9lm]

That force you mention is tv ratings

[@robertwysocki2073]

If you were to watch music videos of the band Heilung, you'll see the female lead singer Maria Frantz dressed up in similar deer-antler queen/priestess costume. They too focus on this ancient pagan genre.

[@angelanichols6244]

Yes ! I like this band !

[@Father_Daniel]

This was a really fantastic analysis! I really love this show! Great story, great acting all the mystery and theories. I could go on and on about how much I enjoy watching this show. It deserves to be way more popular and eventually it very well may be.

[@Father_Daniel]

Also extra cool points for the reference to the The VVitch!

[@mrsduncanthetall]

Wow this was amazing and so in dept. I loved all the etymology and book references. Very well done. Definitely enhances the show ❤❤❤❤❤

[@FeyFire]

Thank you darling, appreciate you 😌🐇

[@VivesFam]

fam

[@charliebabyversion]

love love love ur HOTD and yellowjackets videos!! i think you totally call the direction this show is going with the mythology angle

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much!

[@danizzotwerkgaryen5691]

Just as Lottie took over Jackies reign I think that Nat is going to be the new queen!

[@deadfromneckup]

And u were right

[@angelanichols6244]

Wow, good guess !

[@memyselfi8461]

This was a delightful, insightful, very well done analysis. Subscribing. ❤

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much!

[@bettyp5669]

So happy to discover your channel 😊

[@FeyFire]

Happy to have you here!

[@mercilessforever]

Glad to find your channel again after raised by wolves. This is my current binge show, on season one and have soo many questions and theories!

[@FeyFire]

Awesome! We are planning to cover season 1 in our weekly live stream, starting next week! (Still miss Raised by Wolves 💔 glad to see you back!)

[@demolition1ov3rs]

just wanted to say i love this video! great analysis of an amazing show!

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much!

[@AlexandraBondArt]

Great analysis and comparison with the Vvitch and Mists of Avalon. I especially liked your point about man cutting down the wilderness and also the animal avatars of the survivors.

[@FeyFire]

@@AlexandraBondArt thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@yasisoufi]

What an amazing and unique observation! Subtle review ! Can’t wait to see more videos from you. I can tell women protagonists, symbolism and metaphors are the main themes that grab your attention. Kudos. 👍🏼💟

[@FeyFire]

Thank you very much! I'm happy you enjoyed it.🦉

[@kmacca5342]

AQ or Bear - Lottie, Rabbit- Shauna, Owl - Misty, White Moose - Nat, Deer - Travis?, Wolf - Tai, Van - ? , The other survivor - ?

[@Rosssums]

I feel like Nat is the bear. Incredibly protective. Unyielding, and somewhat smothering. Which makes me worry for her meeting with Lottie again.

[@gerardojg]

I enjoyed this video. I completely forgot about the Horned God of the Celtic people. I would like to thank you for that. In line with the themes you touch upon, civilization for all its benefits diminishes the human soul in ways many can't comprehend. This opinion I have is in no small part due to my admiration for Lottie. I am human after all. Her kill of the bear was a boss move. I understand Travis in ways that women may not. He loves Natalie with all his heart but Lottie fills his spirit with hope. Love without hope is a burden, sometimes too much to bear. I believe Travis died because he failed to reconnect with Javi. He lives; I believe but the wilderness is his home now. They will find him again but changed by the wilderness. I hope I'm right.

[@godlessveteran2431]

It's a Wendigo Spirit.

[@bettyp5669]

Would definitely make sense

[@katehengstler]

This was amazing

[@FeyFire]

Thank you so much!

[@mrsduncanthetall]

DOOMSDAY ANTLER QUEEN❤❤❤❤ thats a shirt i need in my life

[@FeyFire]

Who needs Homecoming when you could have a Doomcoming Running of the Stag?

[@merannicuill6435]

I would buy that shirt.

[@blake7915]

After the last ep, Nat's seems to be the white moose.

[@FeyFire]

Very true - a sacred animal to the indigenous people of the area. I made another video on the symbolism of the white moose; check it out if you are interested!

[@blake7915]

@@FeyFire Just watched it! Love it

[@merannicuill6435]

And does anyone have a symbolic breakdown of the symbol yet?

[@damianstarks3338]

Great in depth yellow jackets video analysis

[@marlenanapier3186]

this commentary was excellent i am subscribed!

[@FeyFire]

Thanks so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@maetaylor5677]

compelling and brilliant observations. Really enjoyed your in depth analysis of the themes and deeper symbolisms of the show .. The wilderness personified within and without. I love how complex that is and multi layered. I am excited to Finally dive into a a show that does away with just one antagonist and we follow along with these very human characters (anti hero's) the wilderness and just trying to survive their life. Past and present. wilderness within and without. I am going to subscribe because I am just now discovering your channel. I wish you all the success and hope you can invest in better audio and a better microphone, because this is quality content. 👏

[@FeyFire]

Thank you very much for watching! I agree, it's enjoyable to watch the group rather than one specific character. Each have such a unique reaction to their experience.

[@mackensybarlow3563]

I have a problem with the rabbit scene though that was no wild rabbit! Wild rabbits are brown and fast there’s no way she would be able to get that close!

[@FeyFire]

I must agree with you!

[@shammendraeshwar433]

Could it be the wendigo? Because they are in the canadian wilderness and they engaged in cannibalism.

[@danihellen.]

Amazing 👏🏽👏🏽

[@FeyFire]

Thank you for watching! 🐇

[@melindawolfUS]

I think you might have missed Nat's animal totem: I think it was the white moose. It attacked her at the plane when she prepared the bloody pants and she found it again frozen in the lake during the hunt... which foreshadows how she lets the boy die in her place in the same situation

[@FeyFire]

@@melindawolfUS this video was made prior to s2. I do have another video about the white moose! Thanks for watching.

[@KlarissaRunyon]

Someone may have already brought it up, but Tai’s sacrifice of her dog could be her inner beast/wolf rejecting “domestication”.

[@All-ze9cl]

I like that the wilderness is personified and seen as almost its own character, but I don't believe in the supernatural side that some fans do. I think the girls saw the wilderness as alive and as a spirit because they weren't used to the fact that being away from society and the benefits meant that they had to survive. The wilderness didn't choose who they'd kill, it didn't scheme to get them to go to such great lengths with cannibalism and worship, it just forced them to adapt and survive. They had to eat each other because they had little to no options out there in the woods, not because the actual woods told them to. I still think it's interesting that their first ideas are to start rituals and create answers for why they must do what they do, but I believe it's their own minds forcing them to do that, not an actual spirit or god.

[@danizzotwerkgaryen5691]

Fear Factor!

[@edwinodhiambo3162]

Bravo

[@FeyFire]

Thanks for watching 🦉

[@sofakinghigh]

Excellent video

[@honeysweet4804]

incredible vid!

[@FeyFire]

thank you so much!

[@Ets638]

Sorry I missed today 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@FeyFire]

No worries! I'll be back to live streams next week! Thank you for watching 😉

[@LucienneintheDreaming]

Now I see the "supernatural" in the show.

[@jerriotglencamp7562]

The wilderness is Gilligans island. What if the skipper and Gilligan ate the weakest which I consider the rich. So the howls would be eaten first by the tribe. Anyone else showing weakness will be eaten also. Survival of the fitest

[@jimmiesavage437]

I don't believe Shauna actually felt bad about eating Jackie.

[@ina6601.]

I agree. I don't know why, but when Shauna was crying about eating Jackie to Lottie the next day, all I could think is "She's only crying because she realized she liked doing it." That's just the vibe I got.

[@ldydyk]

Do you think Shauna's daughter Kalee could be equated with the Hindu Goddess Kali, who is a powerful figure in Hindu mythology.

[@FeyFire]

Yes, 10000000%! I definitely think there is a huge connection between Shauna's devouring mother tendencies and Callie's name. Callie seems to be the embodiment of Kali in many ways, and I love how she uses her anger to expose her mother's BS. 🔥

[@anunnakicrown]

Callie means "of the forest " in Gaelic

[@mrsduncanthetall]

Wooooohooo first❤❤❤❤❤

[@FeyFire]

🙌 bestie

[@litbringers1070]

LIT

[@Heartofitall9691]

Why was Allie at their reunion? I thought she was on JV and not a senior???

[@FeyFire]

really good question

[@Viborasi]

so now we know Nat was the deer queen, does this mean she's the deer? Travis is the moose I guess, not only because of the sights during the first hunt but would also make time-bednding sense as Nat lost a frozen moose at the lake

[@rottenkaoru5013]

My conclustion for all of this, and after watching season 2 finale, it's that some, if not all the woman left alive at the end of the series will go back to live in the wildness by self desition, because they've accepted that onve they experienced the purest state of human nature, they can't go back to civilization.

[@Heartofitall9691]

You forgot about the queen bee and Lotties connection to them

[@FeyFire]

this video was released at the start of s2

[@Heartofitall9691]

@FeyFire oops 😂

[@merannicuill6435]

I'm surprised there was no mention of the sin-eater...

[@bettyp5669]

Could you expand on this? Sounds interesting

[@anthonybruno3183]

For some reason, I heard the two craziest rumors, one that Mari might be alive and she isn’t pit girl but one that honestly can’t wrap my head around is that Jackie might be alive and just like left and took on a diffrent identity I know this sounds far-fetched, but she’s still in the credits, I don’t know lol oh, I know that would be a WTF moment, because how would they explain it other than they’ve trip hard in the woods 🍄 lol the dark entity known as the antler queen was called the Oracle - by the writers before the fans called it the antler queen 25 years Lotties vision is getting worse ties sleepwalking is getting worse all connected and they’re all coming to Lotte is campus I really wish they would just let the next four episodes go so I can binge watch them lol I never heard of this show till bout a few months ago and before episode 3 I was hooked just because I love the cast and how the actors ( young and old are soo spot on ) My favorite is nat - young and old But I have to say, even though Lottie is a nut job I guess that mental institution in Switzerland was good to her because she look good lol --She’s got this weird which five which is perfect for the show lol

[@edwardsizzahands2.0]

If the accident was 25 years ago , Shaunas daughter now wouldn’t be the kid she was pregnant with then right?

[@FeyFire]

Correct! Wilderness baby is still a mystery...

[@robertmcgarry9390]

It was a boy it dirs wheshad her daughter later omg

[@Mandolin523]

The whole idea that a group of girls who survived the wilderness can barely make the wilderness of their real lives, social norms or their own wild kids & family... put me back in forest as teenage girl pls too.

[@FeyFire]

You know where to find me 🦉🐇

[@Tiniestwombat]

Why dont they just look which way the sun is setting and walk south. You'd eventually hit civilization or border control.

[@oceanburgess6830]

You didn’t explain anything that happened tho

[@FeyFire]

This isn't a recap

[@mikechecka292]

You cant find 4 teenage girls who would survive one night in the wild. Get real.

[@FeyFire]

Why are you here??

[@angelanichols6244]

@@FeyFire Why I like shows with Women protagonists. They are all so tough and survivors. Not that I want to male bash but the girls are doing a much better job than the guys in this show

[@DoloresWenzel-cc4we]

Let's ALL remember, this is a great Show, it will NOT ALWAYS ADD UP AS TO WHAT WILDLIFE IS REALISTICALLY ALIVE, AFTER ALL THIS SHOW IS FOCTIONAL, AND TAKES CERTAIN LIBERTIES

[@robertmcgarry9390]

Yeah I was thinking a bi ch of grouchy girls all stuck together I'm surprised it took so long for the to kill and eat people that's why EVERYONE whisper words about them eating each other when they are rescue they ask them how did you makes it 18months well this isn't the first big crash stranded desastor situations where the had to resort to canabolisim to live